t.A.T.u: The Fake Lesbian Duo

[@katy9569]

The way teenage girls were marketed in the 90s is weird

[@whatthehellisthis]

yeah it’s kinda sus...

[@imbetterthanyouhahaha5202]

Yeah...

[@twoohoot]

@@whatthehellisthis kinda, its all way.. ahahah

[@shamartTM]

Yep

[@micnik3573]

Its pedo in pop culture yes

[@bloxygigi7736]

the lesbianism, the short school girl uniforms: it was clearly just a marketing scheme for men

[@taofeeqah3591]

honestly it was not good wlw representation at all. played very much into the stereotypes that lesbians exist to please or arouse men

[@kodamagreenone9367]

well I as a girl was finding them really cute and really cool back then so

[@patriciavicente374]

How is lesbianism a marketing scheme? My lesbian isn’t a market to anyone

[@daisyslovebot]

@@patriciavicente374 that’s not what they meant

[@multijxde1855]

@@patriciavicente374 what-

[@liaavv_4959]

It bothers me so much they were forced to make out in a music video when they were litrally 15

[@denisenova7494]

13

[@liaavv_4959]

@@denisenova7494 wow wtf

[@auandaily]

@@denisenova7494 thats even worse

[@justadjustor8993]

And the upskirt shots and the wet uniforms and...... 😭😭😭

[@itzsu3adz249]

I think they debuted as 14 in 1999 but songs was after 4 y soo 17

[@jarrettreboton4661]

I'm heavily dissapointed with her homophobic remarks towards gay men. Ironically coming from a woman who portrayed a Lesbian character.

[@greyLeicester]

For clout, honey. Playing a role doesnt mean thats what you believe or support in real life 🙄

[@Austin-LA]

@@greyLeicester if your playing a role of something you don't support or believe in, then why even play the role to begin with? It's one thing to be forced in to a role, but you actively have a choice to pick then don't pick it. It's that simple.

[@vaclavvrana5200]

Well, they both are from very homophobic country, so Julia's beliefs and remarks are not that surprising. At least Lena supports the LGBT community. My point is that we cannot expect open-mindness from majority of Russians. Don't forget there even were (and maybe still are) anti-gay purges in Chechnya (= part of Russia) lately.

[@TripleE15214]

Even more sad she is homophobic towards men because she doesn’t think two men together is “being a men” but two women are ok because they are aesthetically pleasing together. Couldn’t be more hypocritical.

[@mac8827]

@@Austin-LA Maybe they played the role for fame and more importantly money. That seems like an incentive enough for some people. I don’t agree with it but I understand it. There is a lot of people/corporations that play “roles”, that will gain attraction in the moment, to gain power.

[@angel33300]

okay but everything about this song is just iconic

[@donaldducksazzcheeks]

It's art really

[@queenofparkview]

Soooooo Iconic. I miss these days

[@vaultgirl42091]

Oooh you should check out Poppys version of All The Things She Said!

[@kesharoselanadelrey3972]

@Vault Girl420 YES YESSSSS

[@vaultgirl42091]

@@kesharoselanadelrey3972 its epic! Love Poppy. Shes the best. 🖤

[@KO-md2mc]

My little lesbian heart BROKE when I found out it was fake.

[@KO-md2mc]

@@Іапа I mean, they weren't lesbians. They weren't together romantically. So... I will say, the impact they had was real. The conversations they started were real. But it was two steps forward, once step back.

[@somebodyoncetoldme5799]

@Jinsoulsbleachedhair a lot of Russians loved them, actually.

[@KO-md2mc]

@@Іапа I mean, what do you want me to say? The homophobe had a romp with an unknown girl? (Yulia said it wasn't love and just "banal desire", but I think they meant carnal lol. So either it was a novelty or just "desire of the flesh". But still lacking of love, which is my point.) I also think that the closeness of being together all the time creates a bond and feelings of love. Familial love and platonic love. Very real emotions, but very different from romantic love. Also, the songs don't hold much weight as evidence for me. 1. Believe in Goodbyes isn't an official song for Lena from what I can see. 2. Queer-baiting is half of what tatu was. I don't see why they wouldn't throw in a line in a song talking about "our love is forbidden". That can be translated multiple ways. Open to interpretation. Open to hope. I would also like to put out there that the "safest" way to have lesbians in the public... is for them to not be lesbians. Especially in the homophobic Russian climate they came from and almost every place they went to tour, given it was back in the early 2000's. Although it could just be easier to find straight girls who want to sing and act. It's not my goal to convince you that there wasn't a shred of something there, but it's too little, too late for me.

[@zerafina6623]

@@Іапа I mean of course they would develop some feels they were working together for a long time and they are both very attractive and they make out onscreen... So... It would be impossible to not feel anything. Even actors/actresses would feel something 😂

[@beepboop2842]

mine too, i hate the people who made them do this

[@maip.nasthethird261]

5:47 She doesn't understand, homosexual love is the same as heterosexual love. It's not about the aesthetic, it's about the love we have for each other that no one lets us have.

[@myajanette]

FACTS. What is so hard to understand about it???

[@maip.nasthethird261]

Who you love doesn't make you any less of a man, right guys? I'm glad you guys get it

[@purpleteardropss]

@Aer /// Western people will never understand eastern europenian mentality... I'm from Poland and situation of LGBT people is not good here as well

[@a_barbgorl4065]

That’s because over the years artistic lesbianism was made solely for the “male gaze”, and that mentality is still set in many people today sadly

[@리니-w5b]

no it’s not the same, homosexual is obviously when two same gender are attracted to each other and take on that action but heterosexual is with two opposite gender.

[@rafaroux8243]

When he said “while begging her baby to hit her one more time” i screamed

[@ratiii4555]

💀😂

[@lunahooki279]

My drink came out my nose when he said it

[@shay5518]

Nawww 🤣🤣🤣

[@Neynana]

Same 😭😭🤚

[@alluringdee5066]

😂😂🤣🤣🤣

[@PatienceXina]

All the things she said was a bop!

[@ozgardea8782]

*is*

[@erickessler7105]

@@Іапа was also wwe victoria theme song in 2002-2003. so victoria use song as her theme song in 2002-2003 in wwe.

[@lovethatforme]

I always liked the red head better. She had a better vibe.

[@valleydawn1497]

Yes. Me too..

[@olbrozhgregorio8898]

Lena has said she supports the LGBT community so yeah

[@SwaggieVortex733]

@@olbrozhgregorio8898 She sure did

[@robynmcsharry9611]

Lena is much more attractive.

[@SwaggieVortex733]

@@robynmcsharry9611 Yup but I say that Lena and Yulia are both equally attractive (they're all grown up)

[@nathaliabarraza8988]

I have a friend who looooves them because of their "lesbianism". She thinks they are the best couple in the world. The sad thing is that she still hasn't noticed it was all fake.

[@cola7260]

How doesn’t she realize that it was the producers idea for them to do it for attention

[@adrianazashen]

Sending her this video would be like taking the red pill for her 😅

[@diabolicaldebbie]

Cant say it was entirely fake when both girls have always been bisexual. There was chemistry between them, at least in the beginning. Being in t.A.T.u enabled them to experiment with each other (and they did). Also, while on tour they slept in the same bed. Remember, Russia was deeply homophobic at the time and it was illegal to be gay. Lena was also made to attend regular confessional meetings with her priest and their parents were present at all major contract meetings with their manager and producer. The girls seemed affectionate with each other until Yulia became pregnant. From that moment onwards, they slept in separate rooms, onstage kissing became hugging and then just handholding. The relationship of t.A.T.u quickly deteriorated from that point onwards and Lena wanted out. Yulia then threatend to sabotage Lena's career if she tried to leave t.A.T.u and they parted. Yulia feels guilty for destroying their relationship and the image of t.A.T.u, and Lena has never forgiven her for it. Now as women and solo singers, Yulia has made music video clips about her attraction to both men and women and Lena remains an activist for the LGBTQ community.

[@machupikachu1085]

@@diabolicaldebbie Lena was never bisexual. And I'm pretty sure if they stayed in the same bed, she would have mentioned it to me.

[@blvckdoll]

Lol I remember these two. As a kid I thought they were friends and when I got older I noticed the meaning behind their lyrics

[@themixtapepk]

Lol same!

[@ramonaflores3155]

me too ...

[@armyshope]

And what's wrong the lyrics are good

[@armyshope]

@mondai girl ah this is mine ol' reply here Well they were possibly been lied to it happens often in music industry

[@purplelove010]

Me too

[@simplicity7862]

All the things she said was an amazing song lyrically and melodically. It’s interesting to think that those lyrics described exactly how a lot of lgbt people feel and yet one of the girls still were homophobic being in the group. It was destined to collapse

[@mynameisreallycool1]

Probably because it wasn't written by the girls

[@simplicity7862]

@@mynameisreallycool1 I know it wasn’t written from them but they sung this sound countless of times, you would think should would feel some type of emotions and feel the truth of the lyrics.

[@mynameisreallycool1]

@@simplicity7862 Just because they sing a song about something over and over again doesn't mean that they have to relate to the lyrics. Singers sing songs that don't feel personal to them all the time.

[@simplicity7862]

@@mynameisreallycool1 I understand

[@mynameisreallycool1]

@@melody5893 That's a very good point that I didn't even think about. There are also lesbians who are against two men being together, and vise versa.

[@alderroswell5588]

I’m Russian, this is just constructive criticism - you completely butchered every name 😂

[@jjmaraudeer4308]

оо даа. я вообще не могла врубиться, про кого именно он рассказывал, потому что имена уж слишком перековерканные вышли. только по фоткам ориентировалась

[@plamenasiniye]

yessss, I understand that Russian names can be hard to pronounce but кто такой АЙВАН ШАБАЛОУ?????

[@rrikkippi29]

Пипец тут славян много оказывается, я думала я одна вся такая англичанка тут сижу Пс: айван шобалоу))0

[@Night-Shade.]

I have a question: Is it true that her homophobic statements were truly mistranslated? Any Russian speaker here can clarify?

[@marinaradosavljevic4828]

americans lol

[@quietviolence7957]

Russian versions of their songs were always played on Polish radio when I was traveling with my dad. I remember everyone commenting, because the fact that they were "lesbians" was something big in countries like Poland and Russia. Good times...

[@katarzynarawska9999]

Nas ne dogonyat 🤞🏻

[@Night-Shade.]

Poland is sadly still homophobic with the lgbt free zones

[@quietviolence7957]

@@Night-Shade. I know... It's really bad. I don't live in such a zone, but I have many friends who live and it is a torment. The president has said the LGBT movement is "more destructive" than communism... But I know that TATU has helped many people in Poland to accept their sexual orientation and many people have become more tolerant and open.

[@donghyucksmom2413]

@@Night-Shade. LGBT FREE ZONES?! omg that's sounds inhumane, I went to Kraków last summer and never saw anything anti-LGBT, sad.

[@quietviolence7957]

@@donghyucksmom2413 I live near Kraków and in big cities like Kraków it's not that bad. The situation is worse in smaller towns and villages. In villages, even if you have blue or pink hair, they immediately think you are gay. But it's all because of our government's absurd claims about LGBT. Unfortunately, many older people believe them.

[@TurtleChad1]

A Turtle has approved this video.

[@mademoisellecarbonmonoxide4928]

Thank you.

[@noemistephanie93]

Lol

[@mimsycookiiess]

👏

[@mar1nn998]

lmaooo

[@Yellow-Banana]

Sksks

[@strawbaby5]

Apparently there was supposed to be an anime movie called “t.A.T.u Paragate” about them, but was later cancelled. Interesting stuff!

[@alice73333]

damn wish that would've happened

[@Strawberrysatori]

Didn’t “did you know anime” Cover that story? I wish it would’ve happened

[@sindy14031998]

That can maybe explain that they have a music video with an anime story

[@adrianazashen]

@@sindy14031998 Gomenasai

[@III-wb5dk]

I‘m glad we‘re past this „let‘s present young teen girls in super tight and sexy outfits and let them sing provocative lyrics”-era of pop music 😅

[@softkj7612]

*breaks through walls.* ARE YOU SURE ABOUT THAT?

[@micnik3573]

Yup.

[@denisenova7494]

It still exists. Especially in Korea.

[@III-wb5dk]

@@denisenova7494 yeah true, but K-Pop and the pressure that is put on young (female) idols is a completely other story of it‘s own.. diet culture, young idols being pushed into a sexy concept, netizens constantly body shaming them and so on 😣 I feel like in K-Pop it‘s much more that is in need for change than in western pop music, where mostly the way of presenting the stars was problematic at that time 😕

[@III-wb5dk]

@@melody5893 but compared to the early 2000s pop stars now at least have a more independent voice to call such things out thanks to social media.. also thanks to that, they have more control over their own image in my opinion..

[@miickeyzreal]

I feel sorry for them, if you take in consideration what happened to them, being made to be gay by producers, all the controversy as young girls... I can see their reasoning of their homophobic comments. It’s not an excuse but it truly affected them. Wish real LGBTQ had this type of success. I think the closest we have is Sam Smith.

[@mrq.1236]

There are so many big LGBTQ+ acts rn. Troye Sivan, Frank Ocean, Miley Cyrus. Lil Nas X coming out was quite a big moment in music last year. I mean, there could always be more and I get what you’re saying and maybe they’re not as mainstream as Sam Smith (although I’d disagree) but rn the music landscapes for LGBTQ+ artists is pretty impressive tbh. Sofia by Clairo is quite a big TikTok gen z song atm

[@kadebebesis4204]

I heard that the homophobic comments were poor translation of Russian to English. Apparently she had said I hope my son isn’t gay, because of how hard it is in Russia with homophobia.

[@somebodyoncetoldme5799]

@@kadebebesis4204 no, I'm Russian, and everything she said in that interview was translated correctly.

[@somebodyoncetoldme5799]

Freddie Mercury says hi 👋

[@miickeyzreal]

@@mrq.1236 None of the artist you mentioned have maintained mainstream appeal except Sam Smith. Miley Cyrus is probably the biggest star but she’s not really consistent and Lil Nas X is promising however his biggest hit was achieved when people thought he was straight. What I’m trysting say is I wish LGBTQ+ artist could be as “open” and “upfront” like T.A.T.U. was and find success.

[@rickydillon]

i learn so much from your videos. i loved all the things she said when i was younger and i had no idea about any of this

[@sharni2116]

Kuromi Lover you can’t be “bisexual until 2007” sexuality isn’t a choice

[@fookingavocados1084]

Ricky Dillon i love your videos

[@myajanette]

Omg Rickyyy

[@devilman4435]

Omg ricky didnt expect to find u here😂

[@somebodyoncetoldme5799]

Me, a Russian gay man clicking on this video: "Interesting."

[@mikhaillitvin4545]

Same

[@arancienne]

do you live in russia and are you openly gay, or would that be dangerous?

[@somebodyoncetoldme5799]

@@arancienne not as dangerous for European side and big cities, like Moscow or St. Petersburg. But a lot of rural areas and/or states, like Chechnya, can be extremely dangerous. You can watch "Welcome to Chechnya" to get an idea. But also people begin to realize that this is not the way, so there is hope.

[@arancienne]

@@somebodyoncetoldme5799 I see, I hope some day you can be who you are without having to hide because of hateful people.

[@丹-h5j]

Кек

[@Sonyash26]

i still can't get over the fact that they performed at the sochi olympics opening ceremony with backup dancers in rainbow jackets! and putin was clapping along. like that's iconic no matter what.

[@machupikachu1085]

They are HUGE in Russia. Before that, they played a concert for over 1 million fans in Moscow.

[@thatshot8]

Fake or not, they ROCKED.

[@rao803]

I loved when he said "living life as an openly straight woman", that was weird to hear

[@TheMeg497]

All the things she said was such an iconic song

[@mimir1885]

So FYI now the chances of her son being gay just jump up lol every parent that speaks like her always end up getting what they don't want. Just be happy u have a healthy son who is CAPABLE of loving .

[@JoeyRhubarb]

Not healthy if he's gay.

[@nadnam10]

This was our “do you listen to girl in red”

[@juls8745]

Dangerous and Moving is still one of my favorite albums, ngl. Almost every song on it is a BANGER.

[@alderroswell5588]

Just to make sure everyone respects them names: Ee-van shá-po-va-lov Alexander Vói-tin-sky Léna Ká-tina Julia Vól-ko-va Intonation in Russian is key.

[@Bijoucameron]

julia volkova (юлия волкова) = yulia vól-ko-va

[@laakmtpoata9044]

And he did complete opposite lol

[@boghund]

It's more like: ee-VAHN shuh-puh-VUH-luhf uh-lick-SUHN-derr vye-TEEN-skee LEH-nuh KAH-tee-nuh YOU-lee-uh VOLE-kuh-vah

[@alderroswell5588]

@@boghund yeah but its making it more difficult than it should be lol. especially when you can leave alexander and julia anglicized for English speakers

[@boghund]

@@alderroswell5588 true but it's definitely not shá-po-va-lov

[@chloeysuslocuras1157]

Btw, Lena Katina's solo career is very good, with one of the best first albums I've ever heard.

[@machupikachu1085]

She even had a number 1 song in the US on the dance charts. Good for her.

[@yojannieverromerosifuentes195]

We need a video of fiona apple or emilie autumn that how the industry treated these two women very unfairly for touching very delicate subjects in their songs

[@yojannieverromerosifuentes195]

@Crispy Barbie why not emilie tell me more pls??

[@yojannieverromerosifuentes195]

@Crispy Barbie thank's :)

[@auandaily]

I like Fiona Apple. Her creativity is very great.

[@FlyingWinegum]

Emilie is not a great role model. Not to me, and I’m afraid that many have walked the same route as I did ten years ago. When I was 15, she actually encouraged my depression instead of making me feel better about it. Enchanted and Opheliac are still albums that I enjoy, but lyrics like The art of suicide... Maybe it was me being prone to this kind of music, but it didn’t help at all.

[@noslost-z7r]

Lena is a fantastic ally of the LGBTQ+ community and I’m glad she never disappointed us. Unfortunately Yulia post-2014 was still profiting off the hot lesbian act - check her song ‘Didn’t Want to Do It’. However, knowing the actual legal challenges people face in Russia and allied nations, their debut may be even more relevant now than it was back then. It’s an iconic song and it actually helped break barriers, even here in Western Europe. It helped us to confront issues we were only just starting to confront.

[@drunkfood3275]

Did everyone forget, that they participated at the Eurovision Song Contest

[@czystekurestwo]

I stan the performance despite its tragic sound at the beginning 😂

[@itsjemmabond]

I remember that. Everyone thought they'd win, but they lost to those Turkish belly-dancers.

[@wallyxl647]

As a hardcore t.A.T.u. fan, who was there before the international success and after, when everything started to break down during their second and third album - I have nothing but love for them. They helped me out of the closet, gave me the opportunity to meet amazing people and even work with them. HOWEVER, the quote that Julia said was hurtful, we have seen her change over the years, she was on the verge of Islam, so she is slowly but surely becoming a conservative woman - nothing wrong with that, I prefer my homophobes to be homophobic to my face. Karma has done her good, she has lost her voice. And Lena, she is just a corn ball who can't seem to get a hit single on her own. Hopefully someday they come back, or not... t.A.T.u. was a beautiful thing, but it deserves to stay in the past.

[@erickessler7105]

@walter ocampo i was in my teen yrs when they were big. there 2002 hit song all things she said was wwe victoria theme song in 2002-2003. also bought a few of there cds. hear there 2002 hit song on siriusxm pop2k channel. which plays pop songs from 00-09. there were good together. they have faded away. like alot of singers or bands that were once big then are not anymore. agree with ur comment.

[@machupikachu1085]

Actually, Lena had a number 1 song on the US dance charts on her own.

[@Thumin]

i love ur channel so much wah 😭💕

[@ashleydison7465]

i love your webtoon!!!!

[@junkghost6196]

oh hi thumin! i read your webtoon and i loved it!

[@athens.z]

all the things she said may be one of the most infamous examples of shock value, but even so, the amount of references, cameos and influence it’s had over the years is actually impressive

[@erickessler7105]

@tiny bubbles it was such a big hit. wwe victoria use it as her theme song in 2002-2003. i was in high school in early 00's when they were big. i bought a few of there cds. songs all things she said all about us not gonna get us. were my favorite songs of tatu. hear this song all time on siriusxm pop2k channel.

[@amberrj.]

Omg my 12 year old self absolutely LOVED that song. Bought their album & everything. And yea I totally remember their fake lesbian scandal lol.

[@elinat2414]

And yet, they remain the most famous Russian girl group, internationally. I’m Russian and listen to Russian pop on occasion. There is some good stuff there but nothing as iconic as Tatu.

[@czystekurestwo]

100%, there was depth to the music and the concepts they chose in their music. It was so much more than the gimmicky lesbian shtick!

[@usera1113]

Who remembers when this was Victoria’s theme song in WWE?

[@erickessler7105]

@user a i do back in 2002-2003. i got ton old wwe ppv dvds from 2002-2003. also was in high school when they were big. mtv play music videos trl back then. also hear 2002 all things she said on siriusxm pop2k channel. which is channel for pop hits from 00-09. it was good theme song for victoria in 2002-2003.

[@iambrieana7930]

The early 2000s music that was considered super racy then is pretty tame compared to today’s hits . Like imagine if 34+35 came out then .

[@КатяРыбак-я4ч]

Dude in Russia we all knew that they were not lesbians

[@brityi_sviter]

Duuude!!! That's my childhood right here! With love from Russia ❤️

[@shemarmagee7311]

Good thing I read the description.

[@alexandergrande]

I almost said is this a reupload bc I remember you speaking on them before

[@onewayticket2148]

Anyone else think they look like sisters tho, I mean especially in that thumbnail their facial features just look so similar.

[@jackiegordillo]

Kuromi Lover If you see the thumbnail, they do look so similar to their eyes and nose. Even their head position is so similar.

[@avatarkyoshi3405]

Dangerous and Moving is a great album.

[@U_see-ph]

You need to speak Russian To understand how big and nostalgic t.A.T.u. is. I always have goosebumps listening to them and saddened by what happened to Yuliya's voice.

[@czystekurestwo]

Or be Eastern European haha, I’m polish and I’m such a fan!

[@austinsanders-983]

Sorry, what does ''speaking Russian'' have to do with understanding how big T.A.T.U. is?

[@U_see-ph]

@@austinsanders-983 you need to see it through Russian-speaking post Soviet culture's perspective

[@austinsanders-983]

@@U_see-ph Okay.

[@machupikachu1085]

drugs will do that sadly.

[@deedeeraconte]

Omg.... 2000's times ♡

[@eloy89]

“While begging her baby to hit her one more time”, I pictured two very different scenarios in my head when he phrased it like that. A baby literally slapping her and bdsm. People actually thought t.A.T.u. were lesbians, years after it came out that it was fabricated. Some of my classmates from middle school and high school thought they were really a couple.

[@UdoADHD]

These girls were my life when I was a kid. I was soooo depressed and related to the music so much. As an adult, it’s honestly sad what they did to these young teenagers... I don’t think they had even made their first true kiss

[@naominandn6509]

thank you for making this video!!! I never knew any of this obviously as a very young kid in the early 00s. I still think about secretly watching the all the things she said mv behind my parents backs as one of my earliest "queer awakening moments" and though it is very disappointing to find out that it was all a gimmick it so important to unpack the elements of exploitation of minors/hypersexualization of lgbt youth for the male gaze and the inherent homophobia that lies within that sort of "marketing". This was very eye opening!!

[@greyLeicester]

You all kids are way too young to remember how iconic these 2 became

[@whatthehellisthis]

i definitely am lol

[@denisenova7494]

Nope.

[@mojobear93]

I'm 33. lol

[@MikeOfMichigan]

@Idk giving a bad name? They did a lot of good. While it was an act or not, tatu gave me someone to look up to as a teenager. They delivered bops, and were waving the flag of acceptance long before it became popular in 2011 when we were flooded with born this way, firework, we are who we are type music. They were incredibly ahead of their time, and while the origins of the group had dark roots, they did a lot of good. After leaving their producer they participated in marches for gay rights and were pelted with eggs, beer bottles, water etc. Yulia took a weird turn into homophobe-land, but Lena still stands with the community. Melissa Etherage once said she didn’t care that it was an act, the fact that they could take a queer message and use their fame to push that despite they themselves not being lesbians, in the end it’s a triumph for the gay community regardless. They took an unfortunate situation of exploitation and did great things with it. No matter how homophobic Russia becomes, they will forever have to live with their biggest musical export being about as gay as it gets, and I love that lol

[@each6002]

@Idk have you listened to any of the albums, fucking gay war anthems, gay bops, and social commentary left and right, man! They kick so much ass!

[@dulapeep420]

"I'm not saying I'm homophobic.... but I'm homophobic"

[@lucyvlogandart5166]

your not homophobic though

[@piscesgirl9615]

Julia is actually bisexual.

[@ssjjc333]

@@Іапа the music video is even worse lmaoooo

[@jalice02]

How do you even know that

[@jack-5699]

if shes actually bisexual, then why is she homophobic

[@Stopfollowingmeplz8]

@@jack-5699 same way gay people can be biphobic. We're not a monolith. Also, google "gay purge Russia." I don't entirely buy that she believes what she's saying

[@kirika20]

@@jack-5699 she said she only accepts lesbianism, gay love between girls but not love between men but at the end of the day she is OK with gay men but doesn't want her son to be a gay man.

[@Starfire10982]

12 year old me was BOPPING to their songs in 2004.

[@kasumikat]

I loved this song and group when I was younger but to find out how young they were and how sexualised they were makes me feel so disgusted and uncomfortable....

[@Gigi-rg7ge]

In 2007, the girls released a statement: "Many of our fans of alternative sexual orientation thought that we lied and betrayed them. This is not true! We've never done that and we always advocated for love without boundaries." They may have been "actors playing a role" but the message is what was most important. As controversial as they are, T.A.T.u changed many people's lives, including mine. I'm so glad they existed for a short time.

[@popsarg]

Please make a video about Poppy

[@alexandratavares6612]

"All The Things She Said" is a classic !

[@amymizuno405]

It was a year 2000. I was 10 years old kid. First time seeing their spot of "Not gonna get us" and then "All the things she said". I knew back then they are going to be my favorite band for life. 20 years passed already and I still love them. Nostalgia here I come. t.A.T.u. 4ever ❤️

[@tataludwiczka8061]

Twenty one years have passed. Every time I hear the rain hitting the umbrella they run through my head. Happy, eternally young and joyful. Without all that life has brought later.

[@momoontour2736]

Can you do a video on Rosalía? It’s very interesting how she is reinventing pop music

[@brianajohnson4425]

Yess! Thats a great idea because she needs wayyyyyy more hype!

[@caramelle0191]

I thought you said Roselia at first and I started freaking out thinking I found another fan 😭😭

[@cheetosan]

@@caramelle0191 EYYYYY

[@tlg-]

I was blasting all the things she said at the beach this past summer living my FANTASY. Songs still iconic.

[@erickessler7105]

@beautilusious me too! even wwe victoria theme song in 2002-2003. also i hear it on my siriusxm pop2k channel. which plays pop hit songs from 00-09. also i was in high school in early 2000's when they were big. i bought a few of there cds. from 2002 also 2005. also 2006 best of tatu cds. great song. i have old wwe ppv dvds from 2002-2003. i hear it when victoria was in those matches in wwe dvds. back in ruthless agression era.

[@sasutomato]

I loved their music. They inspired me so much with their music but I had no idea Julia was homophobic for so long because I just would focus on their music. When I found out it like shattered me. This was the first time I been tested with separate the music from the artist

[@gaccer]

Man, tatu was the sexual awakening for me back in middle school. I was questioning myself back then, i have always been gay, but don’t know what i am or what i look for. But when All the thing she said came out, i knew what i am and what i want. I was crushed when i learnt that they were faking it. So crushed.

[@damandhami6312]

We need a RINA SAWAYAMA VIDEO!!!

[@MyasLemonade]

Wow, Julia's response in the interview really shocked me, Another childhood moment has been ruined

[@andysmith5806]

Fun fact: All About Us was written by The Veronicas.

[@annabelrhodes3035]

Watching your last video on t.A.T.u got me addicted to their music

[@gabrielcastorena7486]

First album i ever bought was Tatu ❤️

[@respectabletampodcast]

Ah, I was just about to ask about the re-upload. Thanks for the explanation in the description box.

[@carlosasan2604]

For anyone who loves this song, Poppy released a cover of the song earlier this year, you can check that one out too 🥰

[@denisenova7494]

It's terrible

[@sammymanthaha2]

@@denisenova7494 lol

[@iQueeneth]

Whoever sees this, have a great day and stay blessed 💕

[@kiara198923]

I still play their songs still! Love it!

[@tapasprinsen]

One of the best pop songs ever produced! The way the base descents two octaves during the second verse is just so beautiful... and then the industrial beat kicks in and AAALL THE THINGS SHE SAAAAID!!! ♥️

[@noxy6375]

The video was like this, because it is the theme of the song. Even in russian it´s about a girl, who fell in love with another girl. After the video the whole world interpreted, that these two girls have to be in a relationship because there absolutely couldn´t be another option. Their manager sensed that pretty early and made a whole story out of it. Then these two were forced to admit that they had a relationship until Yulia got pregnant and the lie was pretty obvious. Not to forget these two were 14 and 13 when they started, 15 and 14 when the video was shot and the song "Ya soshla s uma" got released in Russia and they where 18/17 when "All the things she said" was released worldwide. They were extremely vulnerable and easy to influence by their manager

[@27_orange_lily]

This is a really great video! Most t.A.T.u. videos I find have a lot of misinformation or fail to see them as individual people in terms of their views and all that, plus some of them don't even mention their producer at all. I think in terms of the history of t.A.T.u. and their controversies over the years, this is the most complete and accurate video out there, great job!

[@alexeyborodavkin3809]

As a Russian I can say: 1. They didnt kiss each other in this clip it was montage work 2. They received letters from LGBT fans saing that this two girls saved their lives. As Lena Katina said, it was fake but it was based on stories of real woman. So nothing wrong with it

[@alexeyborodavkin3809]

@Shyandre it is motage. Lena told tgat in recent interview

[@randomclips888]

I love a good ol’ nostalgic TATU video by you

[@BIEBERownMe]

But their song still slaps tho 😭

[@dannyryangawthorpe]

stream poppy’s version instead 🖤

[@LatonyaRobinson-i9p]

I always loved the drum 🥁 intro on "All the Things She Said"❤

[@drunkenmonkey369]

I was a teen when this song was a bop. It holds a place in my heart, so does that album. I was sad to hear that one of the 2 is so hateful.

[@floortjeverhoek9711]

i literally just looked them up like a week ago this is scary

[@sara-8325]

I was searching them not looking for this and then found this video and I like Honest's channel so I was like O-O

[@Love-wf7sn]

Same

[@Malcolmblacc]

I could have swore I seen this video before lol

[@steffenking9000]

As soon as I saw it I'm like, wait, didn't he do speak on them not so long ago?

[@Cookiesr4life]

Yall are right. He explained everything in the description. Its basically reexplaining everything while adding more info and now he has a different perspective

[@wiseweirdo9254]

I thought you covered this group already?.. Nonetheless still watching cause these be interesting

[@Lily-qj2gf]

i can't with EYE-VAN lol (it's ee-vahn)

[@toryannasJMW]

Me remembering that loves me not and friend or foe were on the second album addressing the breakup 🤔🤔🤔🤔

[@houseofruans]

That homophobic statement was unbelievable.

[@varsitybug]

im a little late to this video but phenomenal, concise coverage. you covered everything SO well!

[@ellenjunhae9656]

I'm honestly so obsessed with all the things she said it's just so iconic

[@dannyryangawthorpe]

listen to poppy’s version instead! 🖤

[@naimsamaniro3784]

Your videos are so calming like seriously.. idk if it's your voice or the way you edit your videos but it feels so nice to watch and/or listen to them.

[@elinachessmusic]

You might be not wrong, but your analysis is quite too 2020. I grew up in Russia with their music at their early days of 2000 and I remember how they were welcomed to industry. In fact it’s crazy to understand, but the Soviet legacy of law making mens’ homosexuality illegal was abolished only in 1993, just 6 years before Tatu! In 90s, many Russian artists (male and female) played with this theme in their music and videos to „celebrate“ the new freedom of minds after USSR, but no one had courage to show it openly - to kiss. Even in Russia ppl knew that weren’t real lesbians. They were marketed to the public of their own age (14-18yo), teens who haven’t defined their sexuality yet! That’s why it wasn’t watched as „dirty“ - everyone experimented in their teen years. Listen to lyrics in “Malchik Gay” - it talks about girl being attracted to a gay man, strange to be sung by “lesbians”? And believe me, if you’ve watched 1-2 early untranslated interviews (2000-2001), you’d understand they weren’t forced at all (and they confirmed it years after separation with Ivan). Girls were quite on the same boat with Ivan, they wanted people to react more, see how far they can push people’s boundaries. They didn’t expect business to go further than Russia and its neighborhood. Watch their Kremlin performance in 2001. Their producer asked them to show THE kiss, because Kremlin is a political residence of Putin (even if back in that time he didn’t care at all about LGBTQ+) Their image made them special and gave more sense to their songs. The beautiful story of 2 girls loving each other and protesting against the society for their love were more important and powerful than their real uninteresting and basic lives (of straight girls).

[@Patricia-ey4ps]

It was not only about their image (that btw did not only include homosexuality but also was about freedom, being an outsider and friendship). They actually created interesting music. Lena Kátina is still making good music. Check it out!

[@AlexKova-lb9nw]

Удивительно, что на этом канале обсуждают русских легенд

[@evelinapushkash6827]

Oh I love this, when they were popular in my country I was a child and "Not gonna get us" (but ofc the Russian version of it) is brilliant, I love it so much Also, "All the things she said" in Russian had some great lyrics for all the alternative lesbians in the closet in 2000s, great song

[@dre3w]

BLESSED US WITH AN UPLOAD

[@jennameagher905]

OMG IVE BECOME RECENTLY OBSESSED WITH THIS SONG

[@georgesnotes4968]

you should look at some more. They have really good stuff

[@dannyryangawthorpe]

@@georgesnotes4968 nah, let’s not recommend supporting someone who’s wildly homophobic...

[@dannyryangawthorpe]

listen to poppy’s version instead! 🖤

[@georgesnotes4968]

@@dannyryangawthorpe she covered just 1 song lol

[@georgesnotes4968]

@@dannyryangawthorpe well, I don't recommend to support , just to check their other music. Katina loves lgbt and always says about her support and she performs at the lgbt bars as well

[@oreoemsa304]

Omg I'm early, and I've always loved this band!

[@丹-h5j]

I’m delighted to see a video about t.A.T.u. on this channel, but the stresses on the names are just completely wrong 😢 It’s Lena (LEh-na) Katina (KAh-tee-nah) and Julia Volkova (VOl-ko-vah)

[@GamingAnimator1]

All the things she said is alternative rock, not pop, but ok.

[@indecisive.325]

Very mature of you to remake with the revisited perspective. Thank you

[@indieflopqueen]

wait what did he say b4?

[@indecisive.325]

@@indieflopqueen I don't exactly remember, and he deleted the video, but he talked about more about how they were "gay for pay" and in this video he talks more about _why_ they were gay for pay. He also called the girls 14 but they were actual 16 in the "All the Things She Said" music video