Tarnished Cain Explained - Craft Unique Bags!

[@SlayXc2]

I did not mention this in the video, but the character supports the EID mod! You can turn it on to see if an item has synergies with the bag, both "bagged" and "unbagged"! The amount of detail in this character is insane... This video took me waaaay too long to make ^^'

[@__rogalik__7936]

Now imagine TR Cain with Lost Contact, huge shot speed and range, it will be OP

[@handyes42]

slay does the sacred orb synergy deal 1 full heart damage or half heart damage

[@djneonreaper4990]

EID mod is always reliable, no matter what crazy new mods you put in

[@diegamer2325]

tr cain + lost contact + high swing speed = invincibility

[@algotkristoffersson15]

I also assume there is an API for creating new themed bags and bagged synergies?

[@thepigeonman7808]

The amount of effort they put into this mod is insane.I remember looking at the isaac subreddit and seeing all the tarnished characters designs and thinking they looked so cool, I and excited to see the new tarnished characters and see what they do.

[@terrarianrobotguy47]

Where can you find all the Tarnished Chars designs? I tried to look for them in the sub for about an hour to no avail.

[@Kenzo95415]

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[@OrangeZ1987]

@@terrarianrobotguy47 put in u/ZRwilson2, he’s the guy who made em

[@terrarianrobotguy47]

@@OrangeZ1987Many thanks mate, finally found it.

[@thefallenprince9929]

I love how Death Certificate looks like a body bag

[@lazyer0511]

Pretty sure that's what they were going for, as you get your death certificate when you die

[@cononsberg6919]

Ahh, I didn't catch on to that

[@clelbio]

I think this is one, if not THE ONE, of the most well worked characters in isaac's community, i don't care if it isn't hard to play, it looks fun as hell

[@electrobuzzgamer2087]

i still cant believe you can use two of the synergy items to make the bag you create with them a super bag

[@feilkate5892]

it's one of the strongest too

[@pyrotennisaces]

Nah bro car is best

[@jeremypanjaitan4039]

​@@pyrotennisacesits the most realistic character mod

[@RandomKeyCombiner]

So, basically: Tainted Cain has a Crafting Bag. Tarnished Cain is Crafting a Bag. Makes sense.

[@Min_Min_34]

Terminated Cain is a Crafting Bag

[@huntermansam2006]

@@Min_Min_34 more like tormented cain

[@PissJohn]

@@huntermansam2006 not funny didnt laugh

[@SilverFoxeGames]

@@Min_Min_34 terrorized cain is afraid of crafting bags

[@g80gzt]

Bag of Crafting Crafting of Bag

[@stonetimekeeper]

Sacred orb is the holy hand grenade of Antioch. Remember to count to three before you throw it.

[@thisisaduckindisguise6206]

Got it! Remember to count to five before you throw it guys!

[@Amsel_616]

@@thisisaduckindisguise6206 three sir!

[@OldSport3291]

@@Amsel_616 Right! One! Two! Three! *stock explosion*

[@skrufff]

This is an insane amount of work for a single character, you could make an entire game based around just this mechanic. It would be cool to see them get recognition from the Isaac devs, and maybe in a perfect world, even official integration like Antibirth!

[@bredcool5016]

i really like tarnished cain and theres a pretty cool reference that you may didnt got it he has a rock in the bag because cain killed abel with a rock a reference to the genesis book

[@ChaseVaccaro-ge3gk]

Did he also store his rock in a bag? Because if so, Tainted Cain makes a lot more sense as well.

[@demolisherman1763]

Tarnished Cain: It’s all damage ups? Tarnished Cain developers: *loads bag* always has been.

[@LucarioredLR]

Cain has to be one of the best characters in TBoI when it comes to creative gameplay. Can't wait to see Apollyon and Bethany though!

[@kepler4192]

blue baby will be interesting, his door is a pile of shit

[@Min_Min_34]

True

[@kfirnachum4928]

Beth prolly gets satanic bible

[@superleoxxl.r.s.5437]

​@@kepler4192 I hope they do a good mechanic that uses poop on an ultimate level

[@Thieverpedia]

Bagged familiars are pretty dark when you think about it. I mean, they leave red creep when they hit a wall.

[@g80gzt]

Yeet the baby!

[@hopper8514]

@@g80gztdon’t yeet the god damn baby

[@Shifsabre]

Worth it, they were dead anyway

[@mynormalaccount2643]

he's recreating abel

[@kyoobot6827]

sacred orb becomes a holy hand grenade LMFAO what a genius mod!!

[@chaotic6107]

And I thought Tarnished Judas was nuts... holy shit. This character is genuinely amazingly designed and I love the immense attention to detail! The character seems balanced enough and at the same time immensely fun and unique, I adore how he utilizes every stat and how despite the insanity going on with this char's design he is not overdesigned at all and could be a genuine vanilla character. Ridiculous synergies too, a fucking Death Certificate synergy? 10/10 top tier in every single way, probably my fav modded char alongside both variants of Sodom and Gomorrah and Bertran (have yet to play any of them but I believe they are among, if not the most well-made characters of the modding community) Blew away my expectations, cannot wait to see the rest of the tarnished cast!

[@triggerhappy4199]

What’s also insane the ephipany mod was started off as a joke mod and the devs decided to put the tarnished characters which are amazing

[@codenamexelda]

I love the idea of putting the spirit sword in the bag, it's like "even if im not worthy of holding you, that wont stop me from using you!"

[@LordRemiem]

Get ready to see the Trisagion bag suggested for your game crashing synergies xD

[@willnash7907]

I'm gobsmacked at the effort put into these tarnished characters and the quality and thought of their design, but Tarnished Cain especially looks so tremendously fun and interesting!! Bravo!!

[@nickisgoodabit5871]

I want them to make like something unique with keeper's sack,not just gold or greed stuff

[@kaulis6524]

This mod team is absolutely insane in the best possible way

[@azoreaneve4777]

This is great. I always worried tarnished Cain would just be tainted Cain but somehow even worse. Instead you can actually have fun and play the game with this character

[@samugames0]

I'm scared and pleased that there's someone out there making such a great mod, this is like Antibirth 2 wow, imagine if they added it officially too

[@qwart22]

Oh god imagine 51 characters please it’s already hard enough 😭😭😭

[@samugames0]

@@qwart22 yea

[@cerulean8624]

​@@qwart22nuh uh, players will still happily accepted that, more contents to play and explore, who doesnt love that??

[@justaperson8381]

I look forwards to seeing what this amazing dev team will create next!

[@damiantime6]

The level of love you guys are putting into this mod is astounding, I can't wait to try it on my game ❤❤❤

[@Garth_Brown]

This mod continues to amaze me!!!

[@jasan9973]

Love how there's actually a reason to craft a bag using the super broken items since the result is also gonna be great.

[@danielsurvivor1372]

"You will never make Throw/Tainted ???/Tainted Cain Type of character fun and fr-" *Tarnished Cain exists* "*Spits food*"

[@fink_rat]

They fit a Monty Python reference and a Worms reference into ONE. SYNERGY

[@Romalac]

This looks like so much fun, hearty kudos to the devs on this one!

[@Rais-Codex]

Surprised there is no interaction with Abel.

[@HERE14-9]

By far one of the dopest characters I've ever seen

[@temmieton9755]

I really like how the character has more variety than usual with Issac characters with the bagged items and unbagged items having different kinds of synergies, Of course some are more powerful than others because of how it works, But it's still so cool to see something like this as just a modded character for the main game, Imagine what could happen if there was even more compatibility with different mods like Fiend Folio.

[@spookyjohn6543]

When i realized why familiars turned into bloody bags, i felt my soul leaving my body

[@darkmatterpancake]

This is an entire game's worth of development, I really hope Edmund at least acknowledges this mod

[@camhodges4991]

Okay this is just insane, these mod devs are incredible. Oh my lord.

[@TUNDIRE409]

I was just thinking: "I wish that there was a way to increase the amount of items needed to make a bag, like..." and right as i thought about the word "birthright" he started talking about the birthright effect

[@Chearn3]

I love how they snuck in a worms reference with the sacred orb synergy

[@michaelcoleman2173]

It’s actually a monty python reference that inspired the holy hand grenade and it’s 3 second fuse :D

[@edward9487]

I really like the song(?) used when in the Tarnished Character selector.

[@__rogalik__7936]

Oh nice! I love any Cain.

[@unknownentityenthusiast6765]

Rock bottom dealing ludicrous damage is probably a reference to how cain killed abel. Interesting effect!

[@superwhatevergamin9634]

Someone needs to approve this into a DLC. This mod is too high quality.

[@emissary-gaming]

I have a tarnished keeper idea! Enemies drop coins like when you play as tainted keeper, but more drop or have a higher chance of being nickels and dimes Starting item: Broken quarter. Description: It still has value. Three charge cooldown. When used, it has a chance to spawn a nickel, dime, or n rare instances, the Quarter item. Health mechanics: 1: So basically, when you kill an enemy, they drop a temporary coin like tainted Keeper. But when he picks it up, he gets a temporary health slot. 2: T. Keeper’s health goes up as he gets more coins (15 for one hour, 30 hp for two, 60 for 3, and 99 for four) Getting items: Items from Item rooms, Planetariums, and other items from all other rooms (except shops, I’ll get to those later) work like devil rooms for other characters, ranging from 1, 2 ,or maybe 3 hearts needed to obtain the item. You can either use temporary health or permanent health to do so, though you can regain permanent health by using hp upgrades. Shops: 1; Prices are much higher to balance the need for Item rooms and such as well 2: Every time you go into a shop, there is an increasing chance that Greed/Super greed will appear in shops (Enter shop on floor 1: 20% chance, floor 2: 40% chance, so on) Not sure what else to put, but if I think of something I’ll edit this comment and put it down. Also, thanks for reading of you got this far! :D

[@illusoataraxia9289]

Fun fact Tarnished Cain has rocks in his bag because in the bible Cain k*lls his brother with a stone

[@art-cs6us]

Kill is not a curse word

[@fleshwebber1757]

He disAbel his brother

[@SlayXc2]

@@art-cs6us you would be surprised for what comments get shadowbanned on YT ^^'

[@carlparsons7288]

Tarnished Judas: Ready, Bobby? Kick the baby! *Throws that bag made from Brother Bobby at the nearest wall.*

[@thegreatautismo224]

I imagine Tarnished Lost will just not be able to pick up items at all lol

[@Xizilqou]

Would be cool if instead of having an active item to bring the bag back, the character just bring the bag back when the fire button was pressed again

[@Min_Min_34]

Wouldn't that be op?

[@Xizilqou]

@@Min_Min_34 No, just convenient.

[@hobbiefox-pastrycat4568]

feels weird to have sprites I made in a video like this

[@NotSpooky54]

I literally had the same feelings

[@GhostbusterPalu]

13:22 HAAAAALLELUJAH! 💥💥💥

[@McWirst]

I cant wait until TR Keeper. Will he instead have a different system for shops??? Maybe open a shop of his own??? Only time will tell

[@vsptylore3639]

I was expecting tarnished Cain to be really lame, but I'm extremely impressed with how imaginative the devs were with this idea

[@kamiladrewaossowska1847]

Ok this is by far my favourite modded character

[@MrDdeded]

The fact that your unbagged items syngerize with your bags is crazy

[@DERPINATOR9999]

Slay: "He is a fun hybrid that uses both melee and long range fighting at the same time" me: the Forgotten has truly been forgotten

[@algotkristoffersson15]

Well he has to swap to the soul mode for ranged combat, this guy can do both at once.

[@SeamstarSmokey]

I like how Death Certificate’s bag looks either like a trash bag or a body bag, which both are fitting. Trash bag since all of Isaac’s belongings were probably thrown away when he died and a body bag is just obvious

[@yellowishshsh]

he’s WAY mor op than i thought he was, when i first used him, i didn’t knew he had bag synergies

[@_puduposting]

This mod looks amazing. I will get it... When I finish the completition marks xd

[@zustinianchen2065]

dude this is really an epic mod!

[@Константин-й9р6ш]

GAMEPLAY AND SHOWCASE! FUCKING AWESOME.

[@bennie1079]

tarnished cain is now my favourite character out of the four characters

[@doctorfantasius2266]

What mod do u use for the completion marks? Edit: I just realized that I'm stupid

[@drippykirbo]

Cool synergy i thought of! Brimstone + Shielded contact Both are bagged and un-bagged

[@Harven]

Rock bottom and death certificate synergies are waaaaaay to good

[@SlayXc2]

they have to be good to make it worth to lose the origial effect ^^

[@benjaminmead9036]

the holy hand grenade of antioch reference!!

[@Memerst]

Tarnished Cain is like creativity level 100

[@perhapsYoYo]

Tarnished Keeper: Avarice Is Bliss basically, your coins are your tears, bad idea, and have a nice day

[@omoriperocondrip9130]

I like the holy hand grenade bag. I just need the "hallelujah" SFX before it exolodes

[@SlyRocko]

I feel like the thrown bag projectile speed should be put into shotspeed bc it makes no sense for it to be tied to tears

[@michaelcoleman2173]

It would make some sense for both to affect it. Tears you swing the bag faster which means you throw it at higher velocity.

[@fryy_55]

Really important question: any promised Abel synergy?

[@leonruvalcaba1549]

I dont think so, it will be way too powerful, pc wont be able to handle it and it will inevitably crash, just like you had Trisagion+the parasite+compound fracture+cricket's body+haemolacria+lachrypaghy+20/20+inner eye+mutant spider

[@kyolivine]

I like how doesn't matter in what form, Cain always ends up being one of the most OP characters WotL/Repentance: No negative pills, high DMG and Speed, unique interactions with one-eye items (+paper clip from AB) Tainted: Still broken, even after nerf Tarnished: Insane combos, fun gameplay

[@dragon_scale1012]

Not gonna lie, the Tarnished Character mod is prolly the best mod on the workshop for Repentance right now.

[@user-de3lr7zx3i]

I love that sacred orb is a worms reference

[@ImFangzBro]

Spirit Sword should have an unbagged synergy. You'd get a unique "bag" that's basically just the sword, but it's used like a bag. It would not bounce, instead embedding itself in the wall, but it would shoot projectiles as you swing it.

[@szarekhthesilentking7043]

That feels more like a BAGGED synergy. Getting a unique bag is what happens when you bag something after all

[@kplayzgamez9949]

It kinda seems like the bagged synergies have the same effects as the unbagged, but just with extra things.

[@michaelcoleman2173]

I’d say the main difference is the Bag versions are generally stronger (See: Bagged vs I bagged tech X) but only affect the one bag. If your going a high bag run with lots of bags, you may prefer making them all stronger than have to toss 3-5 bags to get to your really strong bag, and then have to pick it back up over and to reuse it. But if you find a really good bag synergy early, you may want to go low bags and only but top teir stuff in their. As each throw past the first will be a strong one as hell one.

[@kplayzgamez9949]

@@michaelcoleman2173 didn’t really think about it like that, thanks 👍

[@gustavogodoy9626]

I didn't come here expecting to see the Holy Hand Granade yet here we are

[@AR3Q]

Can't wait to see the runs where you only bag the items you get. Unless they have no synergy with the bag

[@namikako5973]

Imma just hope that when the next dlc comes out (if there is one) that the popularity of this mod will make ed make this official just like antibirth

[@Shxrpnesss]

i believe Rep will be the last DLC but Ed talked about “Isaac 2” in like the next 10 years lol

[@namikako5973]

Let me have hope, if I'm correct (please correct me if I'm wrong) Afterbirth+ was to be the last dlc to be released before Rep, so maybe there will be more.

[@kamataros5172]

tarnished cain really went and strapped a laserpointer to a burlap sack and called it "technology"

[@phantom3830]

And how will this label be inserted? On 1:57

[@Matheus-gc5fn]

I think the way changed, you need to get explode a "sharp rock" to get an trinket? And then do something to get to a boss fight against abel

[@hollowknightfan5938]

I found a weird glitch in the mod I choose a tarnished char and the game crashes Ok so it doesn't apply to Maggie for some reason

[@eshkavaralins5879]

5:39 just ad him flying with the helicopter music for 1sec the its comedy gold or pronse

[@mr.pumpkin1983]

It's crazy that this character has more effort than tainted Apollyon

[@Shxrpnesss]

The Death Certificate one is weird. Also the Sacred Orb bag synergy. Great mod, but I guess for some of these items they had to get creative. 11x damage for Rock Bottom for example.

[@SlayXc2]

Rock bottom is also supposed to create rock waves, bit it is bugged ^^ Will probably get fixed at some point. The concept is really interesting to balance. They have to make the bagged synergies really strong to make it worth it to vag certain items.

[@annamariaponte1474]

Timestamp?

[@SlayXc2]

@@annamariaponte1474 they are both at the very end. like last 5-6 scenes

[@КиберМедоед2.0]

O! I got a synergy with that bag! Birthright(unbagged) + frute cake + neptune + parasite(all three things in bag) + a lot of tears up If only that bag exists in real world)))

[@OldSport3291]

Holy fuck the ludovico item is actually really cool

[@squidtilus0.400]

Good Job.

[@schmoferino]

Holy shit what a mod!

[@solemnjohnson7028]

8:10 gas powered bag? *Gaaas powered bag!*

[@gushcraftgaming]

I hope this becomes officially part of Isaac

[@charaxpapyrus]

Can't wait to see how eden will work

[@michaelcoleman2173]

When you go down a floor reroll the genre of the game. Basement 2 is now “The cooking of Isaac”

[@grokborketharek8165]

Now I'm thinking if it's better to use dc, or bag it. I think it depends on when you find it.

[@moldy6006]

a lot of the synergies end up being a trade-off minimal effect for all bags or massive impact on just one

[@btf2554]

Is there a way to get rid of bags you have?

[@serioushex3893]

lol, sacred orb is the holy hand grenade. that's great.

[@giuliomancin4525]

Does anybody know what's the name of the OST for the tarnished characters at the beginning of the video?

[@Evenvagolor]

The theme of character wheel?

[@giuliomancin4525]

@@Evenvagolor Yep, which is the same used when showing the stats of the character in the initial post-it note.

[@im_tem]

@@giuliomancin4525 its a there written specifically for the mod, called Tarnished Light, idk if it was ever posted outside of the mod

[@BlueShade0965]

Death certificate synergies be like : What did you get ? Everything What did it cost you ? Everything

[@waitingfortheequinnox]

hold on does Ludi/T. Planet work like it does with The Forgotten?

[@Marssonde1]

SlayXc2 are you from Saxonia?

[@superleoxxl.r.s.5437]

Can't wait for all chars to have their tarnished versions, i would like to see a future tarnished jacob with esau playable both... i didn't like much his taintee version...

[@GutaoTilin]

Death certificate in bag + d6 is a bit broken or noooot? xD

[@Goggl35gtagvr]

5:53 imagine if you could fly with enough speed and range

[@qiang6016]

Its like tainted apollyon but better