Tarnished Cain Explained - Craft Unique Bags!

[@SlayXc2]

I did not mention this in the video, but the character supports the EID mod! You can turn it on to see if an item has synergies with the bag, both "bagged" and "unbagged"! The amount of detail in this character is insane... This video took me waaaay too long to make ^^'

[@__rogalik__7936]

Now imagine TR Cain with Lost Contact, huge shot speed and range, it will be OP

[@handyes42]

slay does the sacred orb synergy deal 1 full heart damage or half heart damage

[@djneonreaper4990]

EID mod is always reliable, no matter what crazy new mods you put in

[@diegamer2325]

tr cain + lost contact + high swing speed = invincibility

[@algotkristoffersson15]

I also assume there is an API for creating new themed bags and bagged synergies?

[@thepigeonman7808]

The amount of effort they put into this mod is insane.I remember looking at the isaac subreddit and seeing all the tarnished characters designs and thinking they looked so cool, I and excited to see the new tarnished characters and see what they do.

[@terrarianrobotguy47]

Where can you find all the Tarnished Chars designs? I tried to look for them in the sub for about an hour to no avail.

[@Kenzo95415]

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[@OrangeZ1987]

@@terrarianrobotguy47 put in u/ZRwilson2, he’s the guy who made em

[@terrarianrobotguy47]

@@OrangeZ1987Many thanks mate, finally found it.

[@bredskat4263]

I think this is one, if not THE ONE, of the most well worked characters in isaac's community, i don't care if it isn't hard to play, it looks fun as hell

[@electrobuzzgamer2087]

i still cant believe you can use two of the synergy items to make the bag you create with them a super bag

[@feilkate5892]

it's one of the strongest too

[@pyrotennisaces]

Nah bro car is best

[@jeremypanjaitan4039]

​@@pyrotennisacesits the most realistic character mod

[@thefallenprince9929]

I love how Death Certificate looks like a body bag

[@lazyer0511]

Pretty sure that's what they were going for, as you get your death certificate when you die

[@cononsberg6919]

Ahh, I didn't catch on to that

[@austin.paquette]

This is an insane amount of work for a single character, you could make an entire game based around just this mechanic. It would be cool to see them get recognition from the Isaac devs, and maybe in a perfect world, even official integration like Antibirth!

[@stonetimekeeper]

Sacred orb is the holy hand grenade of Antioch. Remember to count to three before you throw it.

[@thisisaduckindisguise6206]

Got it! Remember to count to five before you throw it guys!

[@Amsel_616]

@@thisisaduckindisguise6206 three sir!

[@OldSport3291]

@@Amsel_616 Right! One! Two! Three! *stock explosion*

[@LucarioredLR]

Cain has to be one of the best characters in TBoI when it comes to creative gameplay. Can't wait to see Apollyon and Bethany though!

[@kepler4192]

blue baby will be interesting, his door is a pile of shit

[@Min_Min_34]

True

[@kfirnachum4928]

Beth prolly gets satanic bible

[@superleoxxl.r.s.5437]

​@@kepler4192 I hope they do a good mechanic that uses poop on an ultimate level

[@bredcool5016]

i really like tarnished cain and theres a pretty cool reference that you may didnt got it he has a rock in the bag because cain killed abel with a rock a reference to the genesis book

[@RandomKeyCombiner]

So, basically: Tainted Cain has a Crafting Bag. Tarnished Cain is Crafting a Bag. Makes sense.

[@Min_Min_34]

Terminated Cain is a Crafting Bag

[@huntermansam2006]

@@Min_Min_34 more like tormented cain

[@PissJohn]

@@huntermansam2006 not funny didnt laugh

[@SilverFoxeGames]

@@Min_Min_34 terrorized cain is afraid of crafting bags

[@g80gzt]

Bag of Crafting Crafting of Bag

[@Thieverpedia]

Bagged familiars are pretty dark when you think about it. I mean, they leave red creep when they hit a wall.

[@g80gzt]

Yeet the baby!

[@hopper8514]

@@g80gztdon’t yeet the god damn baby

[@Shifsabre]

Worth it, they were dead anyway

[@mynormalaccount2643]

he's recreating abel

[@demolisherman1763]

Tarnished Cain: It’s all damage ups? Tarnished Cain developers: *loads bag* always has been.

[@codenamexelda]

I love the idea of putting the spirit sword in the bag, it's like "even if im not worthy of holding you, that wont stop me from using you!"

[@chaotic6107]

And I thought Tarnished Judas was nuts... holy shit. This character is genuinely amazingly designed and I love the immense attention to detail! The character seems balanced enough and at the same time immensely fun and unique, I adore how he utilizes every stat and how despite the insanity going on with this char's design he is not overdesigned at all and could be a genuine vanilla character. Ridiculous synergies too, a fucking Death Certificate synergy? 10/10 top tier in every single way, probably my fav modded char alongside both variants of Sodom and Gomorrah and Bertran (have yet to play any of them but I believe they are among, if not the most well-made characters of the modding community) Blew away my expectations, cannot wait to see the rest of the tarnished cast!

[@triggerhappy4199]

What’s also insane the ephipany mod was started off as a joke mod and the devs decided to put the tarnished characters which are amazing

[@kyoobot6827]

sacred orb becomes a holy hand grenade LMFAO what a genius mod!!

[@LordRemiem]

Get ready to see the Trisagion bag suggested for your game crashing synergies xD

[@nickisgoodabit5871]

I want them to make like something unique with keeper's sack,not just gold or greed stuff

[@kaulis6524]

This mod team is absolutely insane in the best possible way

[@samugames0]

I'm scared and pleased that there's someone out there making such a great mod, this is like Antibirth 2 wow, imagine if they added it officially too

[@qwart22]

Oh god imagine 51 characters please it’s already hard enough 😭😭😭

[@samugames0]

@@qwart22 yea

[@jasan9973]

Love how there's actually a reason to craft a bag using the super broken items since the result is also gonna be great.

[@azoreaneve4777]

This is great. I always worried tarnished Cain would just be tainted Cain but somehow even worse. Instead you can actually have fun and play the game with this character

[@damiantime6]

The level of love you guys are putting into this mod is astounding, I can't wait to try it on my game ❤❤❤

[@justaperson8381]

I look forwards to seeing what this amazing dev team will create next!

[@Garth_Brown]

This mod continues to amaze me!!!

[@darkmatterpancake]

This is an entire game's worth of development, I really hope Edmund at least acknowledges this mod

[@HERE14-9]

By far one of the dopest characters I've ever seen

[@temmieton9755]

I really like how the character has more variety than usual with Issac characters with the bagged items and unbagged items having different kinds of synergies, Of course some are more powerful than others because of how it works, But it's still so cool to see something like this as just a modded character for the main game, Imagine what could happen if there was even more compatibility with different mods like Fiend Folio.

[@Romalac]

This looks like so much fun, hearty kudos to the devs on this one!

[@spookyjohn6543]

When i realized why familiars turned into bloody bags, i felt my soul leaving my body

[@camhodges4991]

Okay this is just insane, these mod devs are incredible. Oh my lord.

[@Rais-Codex]

Surprised there is no interaction with Abel.

[@Chearn3]

I love how they snuck in a worms reference with the sacred orb synergy

[@michaelcoleman2173]

It’s actually a monty python reference that inspired the holy hand grenade and it’s 3 second fuse :D

[@edward9487]

I really like the song(?) used when in the Tarnished Character selector.

[@MrDdeded]

The fact that your unbagged items syngerize with your bags is crazy

[@__rogalik__7936]

Oh nice! I love any Cain.

[@superwhatevergamin9634]

Someone needs to approve this into a DLC. This mod is too high quality.

[@TUNDIRE409]

I was just thinking: "I wish that there was a way to increase the amount of items needed to make a bag, like..." and right as i thought about the word "birthright" he started talking about the birthright effect

[@kamiladrewaossowska1847]

Ok this is by far my favourite modded character

[@vsptylore3639]

I was expecting tarnished Cain to be really lame, but I'm extremely impressed with how imaginative the devs were with this idea

[@Xizilqou]

Would be cool if instead of having an active item to bring the bag back, the character just bring the bag back when the fire button was pressed again

[@Min_Min_34]

Wouldn't that be op?

[@Xizilqou]

@@Min_Min_34 No, just convenient.

[@yellowishshsh]

he’s WAY mor op than i thought he was, when i first used him, i didn’t knew he had bag synergies

[@emissary-gaming]

I have a tarnished keeper idea! Enemies drop coins like when you play as tainted keeper, but more drop or have a higher chance of being nickels and dimes Starting item: Broken quarter. Description: It still has value. Three charge cooldown. When used, it has a chance to spawn a nickel, dime, or n rare instances, the Quarter item. Health mechanics: 1: So basically, when you kill an enemy, they drop a temporary coin like tainted Keeper. But when he picks it up, he gets a temporary health slot. 2: T. Keeper’s health goes up as he gets more coins (15 for one hour, 30 hp for two, 60 for 3, and 99 for four) Getting items: Items from Item rooms, Planetariums, and other items from all other rooms (except shops, I’ll get to those later) work like devil rooms for other characters, ranging from 1, 2 ,or maybe 3 hearts needed to obtain the item. You can either use temporary health or permanent health to do so, though you can regain permanent health by using hp upgrades. Shops: 1; Prices are much higher to balance the need for Item rooms and such as well 2: Every time you go into a shop, there is an increasing chance that Greed/Super greed will appear in shops (Enter shop on floor 1: 20% chance, floor 2: 40% chance, so on) Not sure what else to put, but if I think of something I’ll edit this comment and put it down. Also, thanks for reading of you got this far! :D

[@Memerst]

Tarnished Cain is like creativity level 100

[@hobbiefox-pastrycat4568]

feels weird to have sprites I made in a video like this

[@NotSpooky54]

I literally had the same feelings

[@unknownentityenthusiast6765]

Rock bottom dealing ludicrous damage is probably a reference to how cain killed abel. Interesting effect!

[@benjaminmead9036]

the holy hand grenade of antioch reference!!

[@McWirst]

I cant wait until TR Keeper. Will he instead have a different system for shops??? Maybe open a shop of his own??? Only time will tell

[@DERPINATOR9999]

Slay: "He is a fun hybrid that uses both melee and long range fighting at the same time" me: the Forgotten has truly been forgotten

[@algotkristoffersson15]

Well he has to swap to the soul mode for ranged combat, this guy can do both at once.

[@user-de3lr7zx3i]

I love that sacred orb is a worms reference

[@carlparsons7288]

Tarnished Judas: Ready, Bobby? Kick the baby! *Throws that bag made from Brother Bobby at the nearest wall.*

[@SeamstarSmokey]

I like how Death Certificate’s bag looks either like a trash bag or a body bag, which both are fitting. Trash bag since all of Isaac’s belongings were probably thrown away when he died and a body bag is just obvious

[@thegreatautismo224]

I imagine Tarnished Lost will just not be able to pick up items at all lol

[@fink_rat]

They fit a Monty Python reference and a Worms reference into ONE. SYNERGY

[@illusoataraxia9289]

Fun fact Tarnished Cain has rocks in his bag because in the bible Cain k*lls his brother with a stone

[@art-cs6us]

Kill is not a curse word

[@fleshwebber1757]

He disAbel his brother

[@SlayXc2]

@@art-cs6us you would be surprised for what comments get shadowbanned on YT ^^'

[@gustavogodoy9626]

I didn't come here expecting to see the Holy Hand Granade yet here we are

[@bennie1079]

tarnished cain is now my favourite character out of the four characters

[@zustinianchen2065]

dude this is really an epic mod!

[@_puduposting]

This mod looks amazing. I will get it... When I finish the completition marks xd

[@Harven]

Rock bottom and death certificate synergies are waaaaaay to good

[@SlayXc2]

they have to be good to make it worth to lose the origial effect ^^

[@drippykirbo]

Cool synergy i thought of! Brimstone + Shielded contact Both are bagged and un-bagged

[@SlyRocko]

I feel like the thrown bag projectile speed should be put into shotspeed bc it makes no sense for it to be tied to tears

[@michaelcoleman2173]

It would make some sense for both to affect it. Tears you swing the bag faster which means you throw it at higher velocity.

[@omoriperocondrip9130]

I like the holy hand grenade bag. I just need the "hallelujah" SFX before it exolodes

[@fryy_55]

Really important question: any promised Abel synergy?

[@leonruvalcaba1549]

I dont think so, it will be way too powerful, pc wont be able to handle it and it will inevitably crash, just like you had Trisagion+the parasite+compound fracture+cricket's body+haemolacria+lachrypaghy+20/20+inner eye+mutant spider

[@kamataros5172]

tarnished cain really went and strapped a laserpointer to a burlap sack and called it "technology"

[@AR3Q]

Can't wait to see the runs where you only bag the items you get. Unless they have no synergy with the bag

[@kplayzgamez9949]

It kinda seems like the bagged synergies have the same effects as the unbagged, but just with extra things.

[@michaelcoleman2173]

I’d say the main difference is the Bag versions are generally stronger (See: Bagged vs I bagged tech X) but only affect the one bag. If your going a high bag run with lots of bags, you may prefer making them all stronger than have to toss 3-5 bags to get to your really strong bag, and then have to pick it back up over and to reuse it. But if you find a really good bag synergy early, you may want to go low bags and only but top teir stuff in their. As each throw past the first will be a strong one as hell one.

[@kplayzgamez9949]

@@michaelcoleman2173 didn’t really think about it like that, thanks 👍

[@gushcraftgaming]

I hope this becomes officially part of Isaac

[@dragon_scale1012]

Not gonna lie, the Tarnished Character mod is prolly the best mod on the workshop for Repentance right now.

[@Matheus-gc5fn]

I think the way changed, you need to get explode a "sharp rock" to get an trinket? And then do something to get to a boss fight against abel

[@djnateblastoff8320]

I had no idea how much he had omg

[@doctorfantasius2266]

What mod do u use for the completion marks? Edit: I just realized that I'm stupid

[@OldSport3291]

Holy fuck the ludovico item is actually really cool

[@ImFangzBro]

Spirit Sword should have an unbagged synergy. You'd get a unique "bag" that's basically just the sword, but it's used like a bag. It would not bounce, instead embedding itself in the wall, but it would shoot projectiles as you swing it.

[@szarekhthesilentking7043]

That feels more like a BAGGED synergy. Getting a unique bag is what happens when you bag something after all

[@namikako5973]

Imma just hope that when the next dlc comes out (if there is one) that the popularity of this mod will make ed make this official just like antibirth

[@Shxrpnesss]

i believe Rep will be the last DLC but Ed talked about “Isaac 2” in like the next 10 years lol

[@namikako5973]

Let me have hope, if I'm correct (please correct me if I'm wrong) Afterbirth+ was to be the last dlc to be released before Rep, so maybe there will be more.

[@mr.pumpkin1983]

It's crazy that this character has more effort than tainted Apollyon

[@danielsurvivor1372]

"You will never make Throw/Tainted ???/Tainted Cain Type of character fun and fr-" *Tarnished Cain exists* "*Spits food*"

[@kyolivine]

I like how doesn't matter in what form, Cain always ends up being one of the most OP characters WotL/Repentance: No negative pills, high DMG and Speed, unique interactions with one-eye items (+paper clip from AB) Tainted: Still broken, even after nerf Tarnished: Insane combos, fun gameplay

[@GhostbusterPalu]

13:22 HAAAAALLELUJAH! 💥💥💥

[@charaxpapyrus]

Can't wait to see how eden will work

[@michaelcoleman2173]

When you go down a floor reroll the genre of the game. Basement 2 is now “The cooking of Isaac”

[@perhapsYoYo]

Tarnished Keeper: Avarice Is Bliss basically, your coins are your tears, bad idea, and have a nice day

[@moldy6006]

a lot of the synergies end up being a trade-off minimal effect for all bags or massive impact on just one

[@oofgoof-b1b]

legend says he defeated hush by holding down a button for 2 minutes

[@qiang6016]

Its like tainted apollyon but better

[@serioushex3893]

lol, sacred orb is the holy hand grenade. that's great.

[@Shxrpnesss]

The Death Certificate one is weird. Also the Sacred Orb bag synergy. Great mod, but I guess for some of these items they had to get creative. 11x damage for Rock Bottom for example.

[@SlayXc2]

Rock bottom is also supposed to create rock waves, bit it is bugged ^^ Will probably get fixed at some point. The concept is really interesting to balance. They have to make the bagged synergies really strong to make it worth it to vag certain items.

[@annamariaponte1474]

Timestamp?

[@SlayXc2]

@@annamariaponte1474 they are both at the very end. like last 5-6 scenes

[@REMdonor]

it seems like the themed bags are better in every way

[@szarekhthesilentking7043]

Well yes and it does make sense. Because the themed bags only affect themselves. The unbagged synergies affect all bags.

[@schmoferino]

Holy shit what a mod!

[@КиберМедоед2.0]

O! I got a synergy with that bag! Birthright(unbagged) + frute cake + neptune + parasite(all three things in bag) + a lot of tears up If only that bag exists in real world)))

[@m0stard424]

So basically tarnished Cain is a character so good that he turns loduvico into a good item

[@szarekhthesilentking7043]

Didn't forgotten also have that synergy

[@Xizilqou]

So it's tainted forgotten but with a bag instead

[@insertherealotofeyeemojis2185]

They should have made his unlock killing a boss with t cain,s crafting bag

[@grokborketharek8165]

Now I'm thinking if it's better to use dc, or bag it. I think it depends on when you find it.

[@Jason_Something]

Tech .5 and Lacryphagy when bagged is just 😫

[@hollowknightfan5938]

I found a weird glitch in the mod I choose a tarnished char and the game crashes Ok so it doesn't apply to Maggie for some reason

[@Anti_Humperon_Squad]

Can’t believe there isn’t a synergy involving anti-gravity.

[@superleoxxl.r.s.5437]

Can't wait for all chars to have their tarnished versions, i would like to see a future tarnished jacob with esau playable both... i didn't like much his taintee version...

[@BlueShade0965]

Death certificate synergies be like : What did you get ? Everything What did it cost you ? Everything

[@D_Dupa]

This is basically a sling If they gave him a better sprite design, and changed his name to David, that would be the best fan character ever

[@squidtilus0.400]

Good Job.

[@djneonreaper4990]

This is just ONE of the characters in the tarnished mod, and damn its GOOD. I'ved looked at the future designs of the tr characters and all of them are disguisting and amazing. Be prepared for tr ???, Samson, and lilith because jesus their designs are... Interesting to say the least

[@thequeenofwormpudding7715]

Lilith is my favorite

[@djneonreaper4990]

@@thequeenofwormpudding7715 those gello's are scarring me

[@joe____]

I wonder if there's a way to "dispose" of your bags, just to be able to better manage the important bags and not have to sift through a bunch of useless ones.