Tatyova, Benthic Druid - Paper Commander Deck Tech and Showcase! - I Love EDH

[@Dragostorm21]

Maybe the real MtG is the friends along the way, I guess

[@Maezhughes]

Amen to that, brother.

[@Tempest_Murder]

I can't believe I've been watching this channel for almost 2 years and I haven't heard a sex joke about a "pre-release".

[@SuhImb]

Alternate title: Aesi, Tyrant of Gyre Strait deck tech.

[@goagaingamingbazaar-coming659]

Awesome deck tech! Loved how a load of the cards held sentimental value as well! I'm sure you'll love to see the absurd interactions re-lived when we release the video that features it later in the month! Do more :)

[@ryanjohnstone9097]

I'm such a fan of the Alter Sleeves, but every time I look at getting some I get spooked by a playset of sleeves being $30 shipped.

[@papaSwarls]

Tatyova was the first actual EDH deck i put together myself and to this day is still the scourge of my playgroup as she gets countered/killed every single time I play her lol

[@justcallmejasper7527]

Am I being stupid or does the title to the video say druic instead of druid

[@ChaosArmoury]

DruTHICC?

[@justcallmejasper7527]

Would make sense

[@AndrewWoodford]

Both

[@michaelmcdonald2005]

I've always loved Rampaging Baloths in land decks. It may not be incredibly broken, but it's just super satisfying playing 3 to 4 lands a turn and slamming out giant Beast tokens.

[@Kurse_of_Kall]

I'd say in any Lands deck playing Gaea's Cradle it is suitably broken :P

[@Kurse_of_Kall]

Hey Vince! Here's some card suggestions for you, or anyone else who is looking to build the deck: Note: I also don't play enough interaction. I know it would make the deck better, but more value pieces are just way more fun in my opinion. Walking Ballista: during combo turns becomes a win con with Gaea's Cradle and a ton of untap/replay effects. Even if you can't win on the spot, sometimes just good enough to shoot down your opponents' board. Nykthos, Shrine to Nyx: You have Gaea's Cradle, you have Growing Rites of Itlimoc, well this is your 3rd option for "busted land that taps for a billion mana". It's not quite as good as the first two since it doesn't count tokens, but on the right board state it can easily substitute the role that Cradle fills. Also a good budget option if you don't have $300 to drop on a land. Rapid Hybridization/Pongify: Additional creature removal, very cheap interaction. It's a more narrow Beast Within. What's nice about these is that while occasionally you might have to kill a problem creature of your opponent, they also work fine as additional ways to trigger world shaper. Oboro Breezecaller: One of the easiest ways to abuse a Gaea's Cradle, also just gives you additional lands to play for more landfall triggers. Insane value in this deck. Trade Routes: It's the above but slightly worse since it doesn't untap, however you can still bounce your Cradle multiple times a turn, with multiple Exploration effects it's another way to get more value. Uro, Titan of Nature's Wrath: We're already abusing the graveyard, this is just another way to do so, while also serving as a nice little landfall engine. Tempt With Discovery: Go find your Gaea's Cradle, and maybe a Field of the Dead or other utility lands too if your opponents get greedy! Maybe not the most powerful, but a very fun political tool. Khalni Gem: Great ramp in the early game, since it helps get Tatyova out earlier, and then fuels your land drops to get more draw triggers from her. Scute Swarm: Another amazing landfall token maker, while it only gives 1/1s, it also copies itself if you have 6 lands in play, (which you should for the majority of the game) meaning this gets out of hand VERY quickly. Very good synergy with Gaea's Cradle. Worth noting: once it starts making copies instead of 1/1 tokens, the copies COUNT FOR DEVOTION. This means that it's an abusable landfall effect with Nykthos. Roil Elemental: Basically another win con. People just love it when you take their things. With all of our Exploration effects we can steal multiple things a turn, and it goes crazy with scapeshift or a genesis wave. Retreat to Coralhelm: A useful card when we're trying to combo, the scrying lets us filter our draws to make sure we don't fizzle. The tap/untap creature ability is useful for value, and can also go infinite which I will talk about in a moment. Sakura-Tribe Scout, Skyshroud Ranger, Budoka Gardener, Llanowar Scout: all are creatures that tap to put a land into play from your hand. Additional Exploration effects that can be abused with Seedborne Muse? Yes please! Budoka Gardener can also function as a win con when it starts making x/x tokens equal to the lands you control. These also all go infinite with Retreat to Coralhelm and any repeatable bounce effect, (like Trade Routes) if you like infinites. Khalni Heart Expedition: Useful ramp, or it can be a nice way to stop a fizzle during a combo turn if you draw multiple non-lands in a row. Command Beacon: If your playgroup is anything like mine, Tatyova will get a lot of countermagic and removal directed her way. Command Beacon lets you get around having to pay a massive commander tax. While usually we can afford to pay with mana from a cradle or something, it's nice to have options. Lotus Vale: Basically an additional copy of Lotus Field. While it's not a Cradle or Nykthos, in a pinch you can use your untap/replay strategies to generate some extra mana, also serves as a sac outlet if you need one. Scavenger Grounds: We do like using our graveyard, but sometimes an opponent is doing something that needs to be dealt with, having an answer to graveyard degeneracy is never a bad thing in magic. Terrain Generator: Basically an explore effect on a land. Note that you should have a relatively high number of basics if you are playing this.

[@dannewhall5256]

Tayova was one of the first decks I put together as well, just with a majority of cards I had from drafts and some packs, and over time I got a few cards to upgrade it. I really enjoy lands matters EDH decks because having payoffs for ramp and playing lands is just such a nice simple concept and you can find so many cards to synergize with the theme

[@iiGiacomo]

This is the video I’ve been waiting ages for, thank you Vince. Interested to see how it compares to my deck you inspired ❤️

[@laurencebrown3822]

My Tatyova deck goes a different route. Instead of sacrificing and recurring from the graveyard, I use Moonfolk from Kamigawa to return lands to my hand. Even if some of them are weak, I've found the Soritami Mirror Mage (return three lands to your hand, unsummon a creature to its owner hand) to be helpful in dodging removal, and Meloku the Clouded Mirror (return a land to your hand, create a 1/1 flying creature token) can win games by creating a large air force to attack with.

[@godspeedhero3671]

Wow, thanks for mentioning the alter sleeves! Someone had mentioned them before and I forgot about it, but after watching this video, I clicked the link and actually went and bought some. Thanks again for the reference and the cool deck tech! Indestructible haste lands sounds like a hell of a play!

[@elijahpatterson6802]

Lol, I get the Dark Depths thing, I've got one in my Chulane deck for that reason.

[@scaredycat3146]

I'm late to the party so you probably won't read this but I'd recommend Vesuva with Imprisoned in the Moon and/or Song of the Dryads for the deck. It lets you shutdown your enemies commander and make a unimpeded clone of them to really rub it in. And the pieces are useful on their own.

[@PleasantKenobi]

I read it. Good suggestions. :)

[@DerSuperJerome]

I've been running Vesuva forever and this interaction never came to my mind!

[@eirikrcopeland8683]

nice tatyova deck, i have one as well and the mvp in that deck is summer bloom

[@Stonewaul143]

I have a deck I love this much as well. Esper Blinking Sphinx. Fully decked out. Foils, foreign language, artist proof, artist alters, miscuts, misprints and more. Been watching for a card to get Alter Sleeves for.

[@ChefPharmD]

Tatyova is my favorite EDH deck of all time also. I find myself subbing out all the “beater” cards for more interaction and relying solely on Thassa and Jace to close a game out with a Skyshroud Ranger - Oboro - Retreat to Coralhelm combo. If the infinire draw is interrupted I have an Aetherflux Reservoir backup, powered by Alhamaret’s Archive. Fun stuff :) people groan when they see Tatyova come out of the box. Such good times

[@caasIsirhC]

Stone-Seeder Hierophant does a good Amulet of Vigor impression for lands. It's a creature that lets you tap it to untap a land and untaps whenever a land enters play. So it is very killable and prefers Haste but it's sort of in between Amulet of Vigor and Lotus Cobra. More expensive mana wise but 20p.

[@goodymanc]

I'm super into those different art lands. Also love the multiple languages!

[@robbiehardy3228]

It's a really sweet list you have there Vince, my Karametra build is of a very similar mindset, I would love to see them square off in a pod one day! Thanks for the great content as always!

[@mattpk1609]

Nice change of format with the Paper showcase! Makes me wanna do a video like this, too.

[@danimitetwitch]

I would cut the explore for the dryad myself if I was changing it, but you do you. Landfall decks are fun as hell. I see a lot of synergy with that deck and my ashaya.

[@Hitzel]

Dryad tends to enable opponents' Carper of Flowers and it suuuucks

[@Jeff13mer]

That looks like a really fun deck to play. Thanks for sharing the alter art sleeves. I may get some for my sliver commander deck

[@FenristheWhiteWolf]

Would certainly love to see more of your decks and how you build Them. Love the deck

[@dungeonnoob6573]

The timing tho. I literally just took apart my tatyova deck.

[@TehSeksyManz]

Why did you take it apart?

[@dungeonnoob6573]

@@TehSeksyManz the power level of the one I built was too high for my play group and I decided I’ll probably find a commander or commanders to replace it in commander legends.

[@sarahmiller4980]

Good vid. Hang in there.

[@Etaripamai47]

Wow, I asked for this like a week ago, sweet! Thanks vince! Edit:exactly a week ago lol

[@alexbutler8930]

Loved this deck tech. Would love to see more!

[@jean-christophedancause5587]

Nice! I play Uro since it came out in a landfall strategy but will definetly switch for this!

[@oblahuwtf5786]

LOVE the deck tech. Tatyova is my long time favourite commander as well. But as i like to play low power commander rounds with my friends, i selfrestricted it to No-Rares and No-Mythics :D still pretty strong and with a cute combo in it. Just look for "no rares tatyova" on deckstats, if you wanna see the list :)

[@aR0ttenBANANA]

For some reason I went to the dollar store a couple yeasrs ago and I got Tatyova in a random pack I got there lmao. Doubled my investment so STONKS

[@GeorgeAlone2277]

That's a really nice tropical island there. I bet the previous owner took good care of it, they were probably really handsome too.

[@solotopp]

Play it online again Vince. I still remember when you first made it. I watched that vid like 3 times because it was hilarious watching you go off.

[@Constant_Threat]

I was surprised to not see a Prismatic Vista in the deck. You are playing what was it, 13 basics? Also, Walk the Aeons would be a great addition as you can take infinite extra turns with it, provided you have three or more land drops per turn, three islands on the battlefield, and one of the cards that lets you play lands from your graveyard. Mystic Sanctuary is a land I've found to be quite useful in my version of this deck, as you can get back a genesis wave, a cyclonic rift etc. and sac it to a constant mists/bounce it and play it again from your yard.

[@Floodle9358]

My favorite wincon for my personal tatyovia list is Blackblade Reforged and Rouges passage to give Tatyovia unblockable. Just have 18 lands out and it’s 21 commander damage

[@brendenwood2644]

Hey Vince, play amulet of vigor, it's quite insane with splendid rec and scapeshift. Plus you get to run your favorite type of land with it TAP LANDS.

[@philipsparling3830]

I run a tooth and nail for agent of zendikar and hoof, and Verdant Confluence for more recursion/ramp

[@mella4376]

Yeah I would be wary of running so few interaction pieces but hey if you can get away with it more power to you! Tatyova is always fun to run, and is only going to get better with the new snek in the 99. Good times ahead

[@andreazampollo6726]

I love tatyova and I built one, too. I went for the deadeye navigator + peregrine drake combo, tutorable with defense of the heart or tooth and nail. With eternal witness and a cantrip in the bin I draw the entire deck and bounce everything with venser or make opponents draw infinite with blue zenith. I put big interactions like pact of negation, fow, fon, mana drain (which also helps me ramp in the early game). I don’t play Titania but I’d like to. I also don’t play risen reef and zuran orb. I play other rocks in the form of mana crypt, mana vault to make possible a t2 tatyova, fellwar Stone and the talisman. I really enjoy this strategy: making the most natural action in the game as valuable as possible. And that’s it. Ps: I’m from Italy and I enjoyed some italian cards you own (command tower is fantastic).

[@Hitzel]

Have you ever soul-bonded to Dryad Arbor after getting the infinite mana to draw your whole deck?

[@andreazampollo6726]

@@Hitzel dude you made my day. I didn't think of it!

[@PawzBrownMTG]

I need to make a deck like this I just don't have the higher end cards. But I love life gain decks

[@GamerdevilPro]

It was quite surprising to see that you don't have Amulet of Vigor in it tbh but then again I still didn't manage to put a Zuran Orb and Ramunap Excavator/Crucible of Worlds in my Lord Windgrace deck so I totally get it lol (it's strong enough for the games with my friends anyways so it's not urgent) Really digging the ways you bling out your deck and I'm kinda considering getting some foreign cards now, especially as they are often cheaper than English or German (I'm German) so it'd be win-win. And obviously I'm always a big fan of the Alter Sleeves, every couple matches I'll note a card that has been outstanding in that particular game and I'll treat it with a pretty sleeve eventually when the card has earned it :D

[@Yontanian]

I love the risen reef alter sleeve. I also appreciate the number of pet/meme cards you've included. If I can play a scute mob and make my friends laugh then I will.

[@dsilfvast]

Yesssss! I’ve been waiting for this video.

[@xx3uddhaxx]

I too am a man of Culture Sir. I too have a Tatyova, focused on LandStorm around Scute Swarm, Field of the Dead, Titania, or tatyova + Jace/Oracle. Bruh Mystic Sanctuary, City of Traitors, Ghostly Flicker = infinite Landfall triggers, infinite Cast triggers (Ætherflux Reservoir). Trade Routes + Bala Ged Recovery is super abusable. Throw in Crucible of worlds and a sac outlet for what’s that word? Shenanigans. I love Capsize as well. So in the same spirit and power of it may I present 🎁 Forbid (counterspell w/buyback). With all those Cards in hand at all times you will always have a counter up. Also Foil and Deprive are great ways to help abuse The Mystic Sanctuary.(it’s my MVPlayable Land) Just a few recommendations off the top my head

[@theguywiththetail]

Ancient Greenwarden. 5/7 with Reach, play lands from graveyard, abilities triggered from a land entering trigger twice.

[@ExKiwi-yw8er]

This is a totally genuine suggestion, have you tried playing stone-seeder heirophant? It's a little win more but I am always SO impressed when I untap with it, it's like a 2nd lotus cobra that generates 3-4 times as much mana. I would 100% play the new sexy dryad of the ilysian grove over swordtooth as well, tapping fetches and dark depths for mana is pretty swell.

[@ExKiwi-yw8er]

also bala ged recovery, great card. play it as a land from the graveyard, draw a card and laugh all the way to the bank.

[@TheMrBigShot96]

Let's see the purphoros next!

[@Jake-us5rv]

Speaking of sleeping on lotus Cobra, I had for a while. Finally picked up a copy for my Golos and it cranked it up to a solid 8 and 3/4, its too the point I've considered pulling out the Iso/dram combo just because I'd rather grab lotus Cobra with my tutors.

[@nahshonmarkil4893]

these are some nice ideas for my lord windgrace deck!

[@luxaa319]

This seems almost like a land toolbox deck, I think that Yisan and a Quirion Ranger would be great Includes

[@monteeteal7904]

“Mana breach” is a card that is all gas for this deck, it’s slows your opponents and adds to your game plan. It’s cheap unless you want that foil. Anyways love the deck if I wasn’t playing naya landfall I’d for sure be playing this

[@christopherarrowsmith7540]

The value that deck generates is disgusting. I love it. Also that Risen Reef alter is beautiful.

[@kappadoom]

I started my Muldrotha build then as well

[@OChecker]

Hey nice that tatyova is your favourite commander aswell ^^ but your right this list in particular looks strong and really really nice^^ but it's defenetifly not a competitive list. There is so much more crazy interaction u can play with her.

[@user-ww3js8ci7d]

This deck is probably worth more than my entire collection and my car combined.

[@ultimateretroasd]

Aesi, the new simic serpent is kinda strictly better Tatyova, but it's great to see that some cards mean a lot to you and bring back some good memories. Also, I see you very attached to merfolk stuff (just like in dies to removal). I'd love to see some paper edh and chill someday!

[@PleasantKenobi]

Paper EDH and Chill? kzbin.info/www/bejne/n4Cod353f9lgaaM

[@durge12]

have you ever played either high market (sac outlet on a land for worldshaper) or alchemists refuge (green/blue play at flash speed on a land) in this? janky perhaps, more colourless lands, sure but they seem cool :) might actually have a look at the alter sleeves later- that tatyova one looks noice

[@Elliot9120]

You're missing mystic sanctuary imo. If you can find the room to put in ghostly flicker you can form a loop with gaias cradle + tatyova (need at least one other creature) to draw your entire library and then win with thoracle / jace

[@technolegend8142]

You should try playing confounding conundrum, works wonders in my tatyova deck, really sets back people playing fetch lands lol

[@beniaminstawiarski7577]

Vince, you asked for recommendations, and I know you are not going to because of sentiment, but is it correct in your opinion to just change the commander to Aesi, Tyrant of Gyre Strait?

[@Norththeninja]

would love to see an update to this deck in 2022

[@danthorelli5140]

Loves This video! Please do one for your Purphoros deck aswell. :)

[@Deris76]

Any thought on mystic sanctury in Tatyova? While it's kinda useless early game, it can put some of the tutors that could've been used early into game-winning tutors later

[@mtgtomescourer]

Check out my Deck Tech for Omnath. A lot of the same cards and strategy, but 4 colors! I don't have a Gaea's Cradle, but now think I should put Growing Rites of Itlomac in there

[@ems6706]

do you ever wonder if you went back in time, when Richard Garfield was play testing magic as flashcards, what would happen if you showed him a powerful standard staple like Questing Beast. Honestly, he'd probably just read it and ask wtf is a planeswalker?

[@54m0h7]

I'm always hesitant to use Exploration or Burgeoning in most decks. They are amazing turn 1 but tend to suck later on. Of the two I prefer Exploration, not counting on your opponents to play lands seems better.

[@dexagos7688]

I find the Kodama’s Reach mistake mildly funny in light of TCC’s video today.

[@Smilley4326]

As you are already running the lands that can bounce themselves back to your hand- Growth Chamber, Oboro. Is there a reason you don't run Retreat to Coralhelm with the Creatures that tap to put a land into play? Sakura Tribe Scout, Walking Atlas (There are three others). Each of these cards is great in Tatyova on their own but when together they can let you get as many land drops as you like in a turn- Drawing your whole deck with Tatyova (Winnning with your either Jace or Oracle). I ask because you seem to be trying to push the deck as far as it can go with cradle and land destruction (Not saying its a bad thing) I just run these cards in my version and would love to know your thoughts on them.

[@EZ2BCHEEZY36]

Like untapping cradle? Try Stone-Seeder Hierophant!

[@MegaBozoGamer]

Do you have a tatyova decklist with commander legends cards included?

[@marecar900]

I would like to play some of my paper decks with you man. Some multiplayer over the webcam ...

[@ValdisTan]

I have my most favourite deck being Raff and he too is A Russian foil but it’s prerelease foil

[@thumbwrestler12]

Cool deck tech

[@gregallan4291]

What's your opinion on Aesi, Tyrant of Gyre Strait? Will it replace Tatyova or just be a part of the 99? I've got my own Tatyova and I'm excited to test out Aesi.

[@diegovelazquez7051]

Having followed you for some time now, sad not to see Trade Routes + Mystic Sancturay + Time Warp combo. All the turns :)

[@Kurse_of_Kall]

The deck doesn't play enough islands to warrant Mystic Sanctuary, and Time Warp is just a bad Nexus at that point. Trade Routes is absolute GAS though

[@charlienewton5553]

Fabled passage over prismatic vista? What happened to your vendetta against tapped lands in edh PK :P

[@davidarmstrong3964]

Loving the alter sleeves site. I’ve been wanting to alter but actually doing it to the cards rubs me the wrong way

[@bluesight_]

HOW are you not running Patron of the Moon Uyo Silent Prophet is also an all-star in Tatyova decks And with all the land you're running I was surprised not to see Summer Bloom and more extra-land-drops enablers. In your list, I don't see much possibility of getting Tatyova down on turn 3 Tatyova is my favorite edh deck too.

[@georgegividen]

Try running pattern of rebirth to go with world shaper. I have a few creatures that I sac to get a basic land though.

[@eltronjohn]

What about ancient greenwarden ? It has more than a bit of sweetness for this type of deck. Also Oboro is pure gas, using its own mana to bounce, ready to replay. Sweet with burgeoning.

[@kfsee4035]

capsize combos are just so tasty

[@tubutamother]

Walk the aeons!!! It has buyback by sac three islands, you just get those islands back and play them again pretty easily with this deck, much better than nexus of fate, there are other ways to get it back by ghost quartering your mystic sanctary, you can do lot of busted things with this land if you lean more towards blue like drawing your deck with ghostly flicker and other cards in play

[@hicklw01]

Why not run Retreat to Coralhelm? I feel like with all the want to tap/untap you would benefit from it fairly easily.

[@marcovergara1741]

Do you have an updated list ?

[@TheHutt0326]

Other then maybe personal preference, I feel like there is no reason to run Tatyova over the new Aesi, Tyrant of Gyre Strait from commander legends.

[@T_Peazy]

Tatyova is 1 mana cheaper, innit?

[@TheHutt0326]

@@T_Peazy 1 mana (in a ramp deck) to get, An exploration effect, 2/2 more p&t and the added "may" on the draw effect. You lose the life gain but thats pretty fringe imo Also even though its one more mana you're still casting these two on the same turn. You want you cast Tatyova before your land drop to get immediate value and Aesi lets you play another land right after. Yeah my point still stands.

[@PleasantKenobi]

Genuinely, being able to cast Tatyova and play a card for advantage is pretty big - I am unusre if she will be replaced.

[@Floodle9358]

In both cases you play it on turn 6 and play a land but tatyovia costs 1 cheaper and requires less lands to play and then gain value. While they are very close I give the edge to Tatyovia. Granted we still haven’t gotten to see the new lad in action

[@TheHutt0326]

@@Floodle9358 I agree with this, but other than this one example I feel like if you were playing Aesi the amount of times you would say "man I wish I was just playing Tatyova" would be far and in between because of how much better he is once in action.

[@jonathanbaago5312]

Can you explain the capsize lock further?

[@RionCaughman]

Already an alter sleeves customer.

[@jevontaylor9309]

Voight-Kampff test: If Fastbond were legal, would you play it in this deck?

[@hopposai787]

i mean scute swarm and glacial chasm seem to be needed includes.

[@hicklw01]

Mana Snek! It's amazing in my Tatyova Deck.

[@kirkheisterkamp6988]

Hey Vince, what is your opinion on the new Aesi, Tyrant of Gyre Strait? Assuming you didn't have the restriction on only buying cards for this deck from GPs, would Aesi be a card you'd include in your deck? *Edit. I read the other comments in the comment section. Never mind. You are aware at this point of the existence of the new Serpent lol.

[@MrWhatsyourflavour]

Seen this deck play in real life @atlantic games was awsome ✅

[@daniilmironov6683]

Hey Vince, do you think about new legendary Serpent? Is it better than Tatyova?

[@douglassmith8069]

Would you replace tatyova with the new simic land commander in commander legends. Asei, tyrant of the gyre straight

[@jean-michelmichaud2584]

Will you drop Tatyova for Aesi, Tyrant of Gyre Strait or keep her?

[@michaelrenn228]

Any thoughts on trade routes in a deck like this?

[@av110386]

Those Alter Sleeves are pretty cool but $6 a piece is kinda steep, especially if looking to turn your lands into full art lands. Wish they'd offer a bulk price, maybe buy over 20 and reduce the price by 50%

[@luna6315]

why fabled passage over prismatic vista?

[@tehguy0]

Its a blue Deck without cyclonic rift WOOOO