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In season five of Snowfall, Franklin (Damson Idris) and family are rich beyond their wildest dreams and on the verge of having everything they've wanted as the ground begins to fall out from beneath their feet. The streets of South Central Los Angeles have never been so dangerous, but the biggest threat the family faces are each other as they try not to let greed, resentment and ego tear them all apart.
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[@FXNetworks]

What do you think Franklin's going to do about Teddy? 👀

[@ixiiniick]

Everyone has a wild card, just gotta know how to use it

[@thugstowng]

Listen until he see different but he will have a plan

[@beatricekiddo8531]

Idk

[@yungog2o3]

@Ichigo Kurosaki (Substitute Soul Reaper) facts this show is crazy got me rooting for teddy and Franklin there’s 3 protagonist Franklin teddy and Gustavo and I’m rooting for all 3 character development in this show is unmatched and I’m sad next season it’s all over

[@The8Osbaby]

@@yungog2o3 I h8 Gustavo he survived by back stabbing & snitching

[@tylove7992]

"It's your world man, I just sell dope in it" Classic line.

[@flizzy4645]

Hardest line I've heard in awhile

[@MrBon3sz]

White man world

[@sharkieshablm2640]

​@@flizzy4645 nah I can top that. "How we gonna say we better than them white folk if we constantly saying they holding us down?"

[@waynejones7833]

Ff 💯

[@JKlutz3]

franklin was being manipulative back to teddy

[@poweredupkoceo]

This scene is as tense as Franklins buttons on his shirt 😂

[@jameliakingstom1190]

😂

[@MIX-wl1hn]

Even though some of us dislike Teddy but can we give a hand to CARTER HUDSON 🔥🔥 for portraying this role and Embodying his character

[@stephonjr1833]

@Ichigo Kurosaki (Substitute Soul Reaper) I don't like louie she always wants more and is ungrateful asf

[@MrOtmoney]

For sure, if I ever see him in real life I’m calling him teddy lol

[@MrMdhaas]

Great acting performance

[@Elchulo230]

Teddy the best character in this show. T

[@tulishiad7421]

Yes I can't stand her.

[@askaboutgabe301]

I like how Franklin realizes reed talks about the old agent in past tense

[@WillNelson73]

Teddy’s phony interest in Franklin’s life at the beginning of the scene is disconcerting. Fine acting

[@alaciawilson9083]

It's Franklin giving Reed the cigar with the long reach for me 😂

[@Frusciante0386]

Ha I didn't even catch that. That was cold haha.

[@rare.phukin.spotted.halibut]

Franklin stuck near the entrance, thinking it was just a short visit, he didn't anticipate it being anything more til Teddy began "roaming". Asking for the lighter was a test. It didn't look like some cheap Bic from the gas station. Established power dynamics. Teddy and Franklin are way different from S1.

[@SolGood1337]

@@rare.phukin.spotted.halibut wonderful analysis xD

[@filaphill]

That’s a good catch kept Teddy at arms reach.

[@srttrackhawk9038]

I Thought Was Only Doing It Cause Of Covid Ig

[@liquidjackson7172]

This scene was about control. Teddy likes to control people he feels is expendable. Franklin was trying to go legit, and it clearly bothered Teddy. It was never about Franklin growing, it was about how much Teddy could get out of Franklin. Franklin realizes this and starts to turn the gears in how to separate. Franklin knew at this moment, Teddy just looked at him as an expendable Black dope dealer, not a human being.

[@saviannugent8823]

You summed it perfectly!

[@lilkeef464]

Looking back at it right after this conversation Franklin should of either killed Teddy or started stashing extra bread for himself that wasn’t in that off shore bank!

[@Red-Hood]

​@@saviannugent8823yup

[@Tes7000]

@@lilkeef464 Exactly, except that I would go further. Franklin should have always kept most of his money out of those banks. He needed multiple stash houses that various confidants -- Peaches, Veronique, Cissy, etc. -- knew about separately, with only Franklin knowing about all of them. Getting snaked by Peaches was not the only reason for this. Stash locations can go up in flames or be compromised otherwise. This conversation should have been a massive wake-up call, but the truth is that dealing with the CIA in general was a shaky proposition. I just re-watched season 5, and I am now convinced that Teddy was always going to "recover" all of Franklin's money that he could get his hands on once Franklin had outlived his usefulness to Teddy.

[@renzopeterson153]

As smart as Franklin was, he was short sighted as hell, and never took heed to things until he saw smoke and fire. Right after Teddy left is when I would've been on a plane extracting my money from the offshore accounts.

[@jk-xy8xv]

Franklin offered Teddy a cigar, because he felt uncomfortable & felt as if Teddy might try to harm him & he gave him a weird vibe. In other words he wasn't offering Teddy a cigar to be nice, he offered him a cigar, because that's where he kept his closet gun at inside the cigar box, that's why he left the box open after he gave him the cigar. Teddy didn't peep that. This scene showed the tension in the air between Franklin & teddy & showed that Franklin doesn't trust teddy AT ALL. That's why when Teddy left the house they showed us Franklin had a gun inside his Cigar box.

[@travionkemp9996]

You hit it on the nail

[@JoseRivera-nx9ew]

Teddy did know he never turned his back to Franklin when he was near the cigar box , I’m more than sure teddy inspected the place before going in

[@jessebannout5755]

@@JoseRivera-nx9ew literally has his back turned at the door when he’s leaving haha

[@angelorodriguez5740]

makes sense

[@reggiet9190]

@@JoseRivera-nx9ew facts bro he had to check the place out before and seen it did you peep how teddy looked at franklin twice before he was getting ready to walk to the door

[@krishneelprasad2140]

Crazy to think of who Teddy was in season 1 to now 🤯

[@TheBlackKakashi]

Was crying over Alejandro killing that girl and look at him now

[@ryzonnathan1491]

hes still a lil biaaaaaash

[@kingsavage5832]

Right! He was straight goofy in season 1

[@donnovanfrancois8064]

He was naive , well clean & put together & less stressed out but as the seasons went by and more and more trauma he lost his self , he start dressing worse , smoking cigs & doing coke .

[@dfwherbie8814]

Been trash since season1

[@Life_oftheavregeman]

He literally told Franklin that he’s not his friend and doesn’t have his best interest at heart he was talking abut Grady but him and Grady had the same job he literally told on himself

[@Tes7000]

Exactly. Franklin wasn't paying attention. Teddy disposed of Grady and recovered Grady's assets. That's all Franklin needed to know.

[@renzopeterson153]

As smart as Franklin was, he never heeded the signs until he smelled smoke and saw fire smh.

[@Igetsitin89]

​@Tes7000 facts Leon was even trying to tell him the reason why teddy killed grady

[@Kcinthasun]

@@Igetsitin89what did Leon say? I forgot

[@Igetsitin89]

@Kcinthasun he told him that teddy killed grady because teddy seen how they was elevating up & teddy didn't like that

[@julianbluefeather8491]

The hype of the show is the aesthetic, the era, location etc. It's the idea of the show that is the coolest part

[@brosephjoseph8533]

true, it might not have the same production as breaking bad but it seems to capture the "real" emotions and actions, unlike other shows. I always think about the rape scene in season 1. Thats real. Ugly things in a real-world of people born in the wrong place. Franklin just wanted to finish college.

[@SithLordNefaar022]

"It's your 🌎 man ... I just *sell dope* in it." - #FranklinSaint #WhataLine #Ominous

[@aaliyahsashabrookes7952]

And this is why John Singleton will FOREVER BE A LEGEND! If you know, then you know!

[@sonder333]

You know he hasn’t been a part of production since season 3 right

[@aaliyahsashabrookes7952]

@@sonder333 Evidently due to his death 🙄 but his creation, participation and involvement is what’s planted the seed of greatness of this show. Mic drop 🎤

[@MiNoGanG]

@@aaliyahsashabrookes7952 true. Even tho he stole it..

[@aaliyahsashabrookes7952]

@@MiNoGanG he stole a black experience? Okay 👌🏾

[@Bigbigbancuchies]

@@aaliyahsashabrookes7952 yes from Rick Ross who the story is based on

[@nicegyrl1]

Franklin is just smart. It's getting to the point where Teddy won't be able to keep up with him and Franklin calls Checkmate. Not once did I think he had a gun in the cigar box lol!

[@jon_ovo3653]

Franklin learns from his mistakes and adapts also he learned a good bit from reed

[@InfamousAWJ]

I love the last lines about the Coke price and how Teddy wasn’t going to honor Grady’s price. The tone in which he said it was very controlling, which Franklin hates.

[@th3rd3arplan3tradio]

Reminds me of when marlo on The Wire told all the plugs "the price of the brick going up" they all had that shocked looked on their faces.

[@InfamousAWJ]

@@th3rd3arplan3tradio Great reference bro. The Wire is just too top tier.

[@shahidulkhan9566]

Nothing to do with control. Franklin was getting to comfortable with the other guy because he was getting financial gain and it was making franklin sloppy.

[@InfamousAWJ]

@@shahidulkhan9566 It has everything to do with control in conjunction with what you said. I’m 100 percent correct.

[@oathkeeperkingdom4909]

@@th3rd3arplan3tradiowen I 1st saw the Consequences scene all i could say is i really wanted Saint n DeAngelo spinoff

[@Wwattz]

Ambition for the sake of Ambition is so close to evil. Hard to imagine what he actually wants at this point.

[@ItsSamMann]

I still think he's just the boy trying to impress his father honestly

[@faithfletcher2365]

I think they were referring to reed

[@ItsSamMann]

@@faithfletcher2365 me too bro. Reeds mom left them at a young age and his father treated him like crap, thought he was a failure, him and Matt talk about it in the bar in Panama. And his dad makes fun of his cia job "pushing paper's" when he visits. When he kills the cia agent he says "its not because you insulted me its because your bad at a your job" but Grady oh so obviously struck a nerve talking about his dad. I still feel Reed is just seeking approval, the cia boss even used that by saying "the president thinks your doing great work" or along those lines. To make him feel accomplished

[@principalitycidade4323]

@@ItsSamMann you not lyin , when Teddy came back for Grady, Reed also claimed not to take it personally, one of the biggest concerns is what is Franklin going to do against Teddy.He killed Franklin's dad Alton snd It's not like Franklin can just one shot him either, because if he was to kill Teddy he would have the wrath of the entire agency on top of the powers that be 🤔 all of the crimes Franklin did Teddy knows what can he do ?

[@kingsavage5832]

@@ItsSamMann Makes sense to me now because I was kinda lost into why Teddy is so thirsty to get back in the "operation" so bad, and I've felt that him being in that realm of drug smuggling, I guess he felt some type of Control & empowerment because he's pretty much been a pushover in the real world. I just don't understand why he's so possessive with Franklin? Why not find someone else?

[@roshelltannen9698]

The scene with Grady and Teddy was epic. Grady was a great character.

[@jeremymoore9854]

Was he?for 3 episodes?foh

[@roshelltannen9698]

@@jeremymoore9854 3 episodes and what's your point? He still was a well written character. What's with the FOH? Kevin was only in 5 or 6 episodes and he was a great character too. Do you have to be so abrasive?

[@draqon8094]

@@jeremymoore9854 bruh most characters introduced are lucky to last a full season, that’s doesn’t mean they weren’t great

[@renzopeterson153]

Yeah, I miss Grady, wish they could've kept him a little longer and people seem to miss the whole point of Grady in the first place. Grady represented freedom and prosperity into legitimate businesses. Teddy represented the complete opposite.

[@thugxlove88]

Grady actually seemed like a genuine cool dude who also sid have some care for the people he worked with. In the scene with him and franklin when they were in the jet showed that

[@jainorman3425]

The best television show on FX

[@riedollazgq4216]

Franklin figured Teddy out he’s gonna know his every move just like Teddy knows Franklin moves.

[@DanteorGio]

Teddy telling Franklin his name finally was actually unexpected. And I think it was safe to say Teddy had alot more trust in Franklin in this scene than Franklin did for Teddy, and it made sense considering Franklin suspected Teddy disappeared his father.

[@th3rd3arplan3tradio]

His character role gets darker each season.

[@Keemjayyy]

This scene says so much teddy feels comfortable walking around cause he knows Franklin needs him and he knows franklins wondering what he’s up to and could be armed but he know he won’t kill a CIA agent In his house

[@MisterLowrider]

I hope Franklin protects himself from Teddy. He looked irritated seeing teddy after everything that happened.

[@SithLordNefaar022]

The real ominous part of this is practically everything Alton was telling Franklin last season is now coming to fruition.... Has to end sometime 😳😔

[@redsavage2141]

Exactly

[@jon_ovo3653]

Even if Alton was “right” doesn’t mean you get to force an end put my life …all their at risk for your futile war on drugs

[@stronghold8266]

It’s horrible

[@africanbella28]

Facts👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾

[@svilenvasilev3819]

Franklin vs Teddy #letsgo #snowfall

[@flizzy4645]

This scene was too intense

[@marcusmarcus3190]

The best show on FX network

[@The8Osbaby]

Yeap to bad them bastards cancelled 😡

[@marcusmarcus3190]

@@The8Osbaby cancel when there another season coming out they showed it for the new years

[@kingdeity2932]

You see hte distance kept n attention n both of em 🤣🤣 Franklin got his answers n teddy did

[@stevenhay3494]

Iconic scene in the series

[@md-lw6cl]

teddy is the biggest gangster in the series

[@1cedoubt143]

Ong he don’t care abt shi

[@Infinity777z]

@@1cedoubt143 facts

[@jon_ovo3653]

@@1cedoubt143 ong

[@jon_ovo3653]

CIA make you built like that

[@renzopeterson153]

📠

[@s4mp_founder]

Franklin is going to kill Teddy this season. There's too much against Teddy anyways. He nearly fucked up the operation before, came back, killed the other guy who took his place, and now looking to break Franklin in. When he's no longer that kid he met.

[@KeybladeWarriorMaj]

@The Legendary One Lmao incorrect teddy aint Freddy Kruger

[@Tes7000]

jthrillz: For what we knew year ago, this wasn't a bad prediction, but watching it with the benefit of hindsight, the foreshadowing in this scene was crazy. Franklin wasn't paying attention. Teddy disposed of Grady for getting sloppy, and then Teddy told Franklin to sell Grady's house and give him the cash. It was a failure of imagination on Franklin's part to not contemplate that Teddy could and would clean out his accounts to "recover" assets for the war in Nicaragua.

[@intelligentfool09]

Power scene the body language and tone 💎

[@tayluc777]

He couldn’t even keep the house! Teddy savage 😂

[@Tes7000]

Exactly. Teddy disposed of Grady and then told Franklin to sell Grady's house and "get me the cash." Franklin wasn't paying attention. This scene was one hell of a foreshadow.

[@renzopeterson153]

​@@Tes7000 All 📠, how could he not remember that Teddy helped him set up those off shore accounts. He had access to planes and was great at flying. I'd have flown out and got half of my money or had a nice package stored up to go on the run if needed. You can fit about 2 million in a briefcase. I'd have had about 12 suitcases scattered around Cali and surrounding states.

[@Tes7000]

@@renzopeterson153 Now that's what I'm talkin about! I would have had suitcases in California, surrounding states, and throughout the country, especially anywhere I could be inconspicuous as a black man. Back in the 80s, you could fly without having to go through security, so it would have been not too difficult to disperse all that money.

[@orenherod5514]

Awwwww.... teddy got jealous 😂

[@Tes7000]

That's what Teddy said in the finale, but this scene had some crazy foreshadowing. Teddy was always going to snake Franklin in the end. Franklin wasn't paying attention. Teddy disposed of Grady and told Franklin to sell Grady's house and to "give me the money." Once Franklin realized that Teddy *would* "recover" his assets, Franklin should have contemplated whether or not Teddy *could* recover his millions of dollars into those offshore banks.

[@boxingguru4221]

God, I love this show. Season 3 was a masterpiece.

[@MelvinMansoor]

WHAT A FUCKIN GREAT SHOW!

[@miatamatt7105]

Looking back Frank should have just pulled that 45 and used it

[@KingKunta529]

Teddy has a soft spot for Franklin and Gustavo, part of it is him and his need to be in control of the operation the other is knowing without him they are both being lead astray and closer to being compromised, they immediately accepted him when he returned and that showed a major amount of respect

[@jon_ovo3653]

Yeah I don’t think means them harm he’s just going thru something right now but it’s 50/50 for me

[@edgehanger8558]

I think a small part is control but he definitely has a soft spot for them because he's done things that overstep the agreement from the start but when he feels vulnerable he acts out! Just like the lighter and taking control of the convo...he sneaky lol

[@myheadhurtbro6692]

@@jon_ovo3653 fast forward teddy stole from Frank and now he’s killed his dad😅

[@jon_ovo3653]

@@myheadhurtbro6692 lmfao it’s gotten wild 😭

[@asmarbeyah320]

@@edgehanger8558 yea bro he doesn’t have an ounce of respect for franklin

[@AlexMartinez-vn3hg]

Teddy didn’t like the fact that Grady got him into Real estate and took money etc…imo that gave away franklins girl..She’s into real estate knows franklins business and not only does she know grady and he knows her Grady put her on. Maybe to keep ‘‘em on a shorter leash if that makes sense..anyways teddy either knows or is going to find out and try and take her out..she might not even be pregnant just sayin..all leads back to Grady.

[@renzopeterson153]

You're a smart man, and you understand what Grady's character represented.

[@LadyEveGuyBoiman]

In all scenes of all movies and tv shows i've watched all human visitors always automatically looks around awkwardly or shyly checking out the walls and ceilings and then give it a few more seconds and the human guest makes hinself confortable like he owns the house or he's been into it thousand times everyday and he leaves in a cool badass manner like he lost interest with the house, i mean it's in my top 5, the 2nd is the scene where characters particularly a family, arguing in front of the meal then the other one gets upset and throw the food or gets up and brings the unfinished or barely touched food to the sink or throws it there

[@ramblincapuchin9075]

I'm glad you're adjusting to our culture well siri

[@trajohnadams1772]

i like Teddy

[@5280PolotheKid]

Teddy has been my favorite storyline since the series started, I never understood why people don’t enjoy his character or his story

[@MiNoGanG]

Because In real life he’s the one that snitched on everyone.

[@5280PolotheKid]

@@MiNoGanG this isn’t real life scoot

[@Bigbigbancuchies]

@@MiNoGanG who’s he based on?

[@Infinity777z]

@@5280PolotheKid false

[@kelceynicole]

i like his character bc of what he adds to the storyline, but i don’t trust Teddy at all. he’s dangerous, has no loyalty to anyone, & has selfish ambition. those are type of people you can never trust. no matter how “good” they seem.

[@smd544]

What is teddy plans? What's his angle?

[@biggssmalls7281]

Control and power

[@adamkumi7122]

After last nights episode teddy ain’t feeling too tough 😮 hahahahahaha

[@samanthab1923]

Teddy sounds so weird here.

[@michaelsteen9396]

I like Teddy. He is a man of FOCUS, seeing ALL of the angles from every involved person’s point of view nine moves ahead of when they see them theirselves. He exerts influences on people from street thugs and junkies in Los Angeles all the way up to sadistic juvenile delinquent billionaires that command armies of sadistic killers in countries stretching to the Andes mountains in South America and every country in between. He also efficiently takes care of disposal of any of these people PERSONALLY AND EFFECTIVELY if he needs to. He is the grease that keeps the wheels turning in the game that scarcely anyone ever really knows yet his existence is very real and necessary or everything would fall apart on one end or the other. As smart as Franklin THINKS he is Teddy is way way ahead of him

[@longnuts1969]

He’s a ex cia operative that uses his tools to his advantage , it’s not that deep he’s not all that lol

[@gitgudnga]

i think hes had a character development since the start after his wife/girl messed up his ops hes become more cold, less trusting of others and only respects intelligence, im sure if he went back to any of those columbian dealers who where holding guns at him and beating him up it would be very different

[@michellehobson9760]

I suppose you're right about Teddy. I used love him, but now I'm sick of him. And I wouldn't count out Franklin Saint. The kid is smart & he knew he was disposable..

[@africanbella28]

@@longnuts1969 Thank you👏🏾👏🏾

[@elvinnziko440]

@@michellehobson9760 saint dumb as hell money got to him and he lost himself

[@Jerzey97]

“It’s your world, man, I just sell dope in it” Teddys look read this (to me): Finally your starting to learn where you are in the world

[@elijahstraight402]

I took as Franklin fanning weakness in the same manner as him walking with a cane for almost all of Season 4. Teddy might think he's got Saint back under his control, but Franklin always has a Plan B. Believe that...

[@tomrowley7114]

When is this on bbc iplayer?

[@edwinmensah6795]

I want to know too!

[@diablo666541]

Without teddy there be no Franklin no rock. I wonder if teddy gonna what he said he do in season 1 he already had jackets on leon n gustavo n he said he continues the operations n once op is over he cut their protection.

[@nicholasnewell628]

Teddy is the best character

[@talesfromtheturf341]

What was it that teddy grabbed off the table?

[@antoniosmith7010]

My man Franklin looking like lil nas x big brother🤣😂🤣😂

[@russellgeorge433]

Yup

[@flaming3652]

He still trying to do business with the man after he killed his father like it's not going to come out. When you work with a snake expect to be bit and that's going to be Franklin, his associates, and Gustavo's downfall.

[@JKlutz3]

franklin knows teddy killed alton, he’s just playing along for right now

[@jwhite7104]

I’m trying to figure out why he exposed himself to him as Teddy as if he wants Franklin to trust him so he can rock him to sleep…

[@SithLordNefaar022]

But franklin already knows his real name cuz Alton told him last season finale....

[@stephonjr1833]

Teddy knows Franklin knows his real name so there's no point in calling him Reed

[@jwhite7104]

@@stephonjr1833 I think he trying to make him comfortable so he can rock him

[@stephonjr1833]

@@jwhite7104 Franklin knows what Teddy is capable of he'll never get too comfortable

[@darrickfranklin7096]

It’s more a thing for the audience than for Franklin. Think about it, when he was Reed Thompson he came across as someone who was Franklin’s partner and even possibly a friend to a certain extent. This whole scene is to showcase that the relationship they previously had is completely gone. Teddy’s character since season 1 basically showed you he is one of those army guys that gets obsessed with being a hero and being a part of a mission more than he likes his own family and this is just culmination of that. After everything, he’s lost his family, and his brother to this mission. He literally just has this which is what Grady was getting at before Reed killed him. The “you can call me Teddy” is a affirmation to not only Franklin but us as the audience that the games are over and in a way Franklin really is meeting Teddy for the first time and basically saying this is who Teddy is at his core.

[@joematus410]

Cool life

[@papimulunda6982]

Teddy reed still Keeping Watching on Franklin they Both can't Trust each other and they got Bisnis with each other and then Do Y'all think will Franklin Killed reed Teddy or will Teddy reed Killed Franklin 🤔? in the ending of fx snowfall Story

[@Emick1978]

They kill one another

[@CyberDyneSystems77]

All down hill from here

[@goodftoest]

Teddy is just the best character in the series hands down

[@goshenhill40]

I think Gustavo was the best character and he was the only one out of all the bums he had around him who he could trust:

[@MrGlider-002]

no blue backpack?

[@SkilledNature]

Insane how Teddy can come back trying to be partners but Franklin couldn’t in the end…..

[@BishopP36]

If u really look at it teddy is the Franklin but jus white. If he feels any sign of a threat, he eliminates the competition

[@abeedeahmed5626]

In a way I do feel for Teddy, Franklin was his most problematic contact by far, having Alton, his father, and a journalist almost expose his secret identity to the world and getting him fired. Clearly there was a need for tighter control incase another risk of exposure occurred. Shame he took it too far and did a deal with Louie then stole Franklin's money

[@BlackLuv17]

Gotta see how much I can stomach this teddy guy 😔

[@thugstowng]

Teddy found Franklin when he was young when he was trying to do right and seen he was ambitious even though the white college did him dirty career day turned in to a whole different area I can relate to this show feels like I played apart in it from Franklin's point of view

[@jeremymoore9854]

Bruh wat college did who dirty ?

[@thugstowng]

@@jeremymoore9854 you obviously have have not watched that episode of h I w he met Franklin

[@deonsellers9749]

Hate to tell you but you clearly don't watch all episodes every season or pay attention to the show @@thugstowng The season 3 finale episode was a daydream Franklin had while he was unconscious after Mel shot him.None of the first 30 minutes of the episode actually happened.Which is why you never saw Leon & Wanda with a baby or even discussing babies.Alton clearly didn't die after the beating from cops in season 2 like Franklin told Teddy.He was around for season 3 & 4.Karvel couldn't have died in a robbery before Franklin even started selling drugs,he robbed Franklin for his drug money in season 1.Louie & Jerome have said they don't have kids & Cissy even said they needed kids to understand why she goes crazy about Franklin... How you trying to check & correct somebody when you didn't even know the episode was a fantasy 🤦🏿🤣

[@DonFamilia62]

@@thugstowng Teddy meeting franklin at college was part of a dream scenario

[@evillamar372]

I wonder if Teddy really killed Alton

[@characterbattlesh]

He did alright

[@Mundanesoup4]

Teddy is just greedy. Seeing Franklin go from nothing to a millionaire while he's still getting a check from the government got to him. Can't blame him but thats just how life is sometimes lol

[@papaadot9369]

So was Franklin

[@AntyJames]

Teddy: "I know that you like Grady" "I know that he IS easy to be around, that's his job" "Make you like him. Make you trust him. Make you think that he's looking out for you." "I'm saying he makes some really poor choices" "Look, I get it. I know that at the time it probably seemed like a really good idea. If you're entwined in legitimate business, he's more inclined to protect you, look after you, all that. Franklin: Why do you keep talking about him in the past tense?

[@TREACHERY09]

Now this is a very awkward situation for Franklin Saint. The Man who killed his father for basically snitching has returned and he is ready to get bacc in business. I know Franklin wasn't expecting this. I'm not a big fan of Teddy, but I do see things from his point of view. He is just reminding Franklin that business has to move forward without Grady. Alton got too beside himself and thought he could take on the CIA and nothing would happen. He started acting high and mighty like he was saving everybody from the drugs flooding the streets. It just pushed him away from his family and got him killed. Franklin is no Saint. However, Alton didn't consider the danger he was putting his family in by being big headed and wanting to broadcast the dirt Franklin and Teddy was into. It might not be right and yeah, the CIA did flood the ghetto with dope, but with your son being the kingpin under the CIA, you have to think about how you're going to go about exposing things. Maybe if Alton took a different approach, he may still be alive.......

[@emitch562]

Good morning. We have seen all of Reed/Teddy victims who were killed except for.........Alton is still alive. In episode 2 when Reed met with his contact the man said "The asset (Franklin) is not going to be happy knowing what you did to his Dad in Cuba." Reed said "I don't know what you are talking about." That was the clue.

[@mosettyson]

“Franklin is no Saint” 😂😂😭 good one mate good one

[@mrmeftw781]

Is Alton dead? All teddy cia friend was” what you did to his father in Cuba” we haven’t been shown or told anything about his father, plus he was on the phone with his mum in cuba

[@One_Black_Panther]

But remember Franklin doesn't know what happened to his dad yet

[@skii7602]

Alton is alive

[@jjay6149]

What happened to him saying don’t show up to my home anymore I know Ian trippin

[@goshenhill40]

Teddy should not even be there: when Grady got up and found teddy in his house with a bottle of his wine in his hands: Grady should of shot teddy dead:

[@Colduck42]

Mom's just fucked that all up for Franklin just being selfish she could have let Franklin get that money first and then killed teddy..that would have been tru revenge..everybody gets what they want..period.

[@pasaguro2]

Why did Franklin say Teddy was referring to Grady in the past tense when he didn’t? He literally was speaking of him in present tense. That was weird.

[@laetrelloatz3843]

He was using past tense words… that make up the word …franklyn smart so he figure using them words is… trust .. make…. Look… all them words could be made past tense

[@yannyowane795]

This sentence “at the time it probably seemed like a good idea ” “if you’re entwined in legitimate business ” all past tense that’s how Franklin figured.

[@InfamousAWJ]

Omg I thought I was BUGGIN

[@InfamousAWJ]

@@yannyowane795 I mean yes and no… it’s not definitive enough imo to declare that as past tense. You can say, at the time I worked with Bill Gates because it was smart, he IS, STILL one of the worlds richest men. See? Teddy wasn’t really saying Grady WAS or any of those words.

[@deonsellers9749]

@@InfamousAWJ Teddy said "he *made* bad decisions",not "makes". That was Franklin's first clue.The second was when Teddy said "partying is something they could forgive, but..".Franklin knew Grady was no longer his handler as soon as Teddy said it was Grady's job to pretend to be a friend but he thought the CIA just fired him.Once Teddy said he did something the government couldn't allow, that's when he realized Teddy was speaking about him in the past tense.

[@hipeople5505]

i want my money, fx....

[@christianroberts6033]

Why does Teddy prefer Gustavo over Franklin?

[@thisistodd190]

Gustavo listens and stays in his lane lol

[@WelcomeToThe92503]

Gustavo has very little ambition.. and is a simple man..and he knows he can control him On the other hand..TEDDY KNOWS FRANKLIN isnt DUMB.. and ISNT GOING TO STOP until HE GETS ALL THAT HE WANTS FROM THEIR ARRANGEMENT. TEDDY only wants one person to benefit from all of this. him and the CIA..

[@KiddSwagification]

@@WelcomeToThe92503 well said

[@guru_basketball_kiero]

@@thisistodd190 so has Franklin (aside from his father and that reporter)....

[@christianroberts6033]

@@WelcomeToThe92503 ok cool cause I was like Teddy never really press Gustavo

[@XC777]

Shoulda popped Teddy right there and put the body on somebody else if somebody came looking

[@gregviews]

For anyone saying Franklin dead the real life Franklin which the show was based on is still alive to this day Freeway Ricky or Franklin Saint

[@joeyskywalker1322]

Rick Ross and yes he still alive

[@deonsellers9749]

How Franklin got all the way in the game,how crack left Cali & a couple of incidents from season 1 are based on Freeway Ricky.The show as a whole is based off what that white dude said when he talked to the press & several major street people well known in Cali back in the day.If you're familiar with other stories, you'll see Franklin is a few different people just like Louie,Jerome,Cissy who's a real life mother that started moving real weight to keep her son safe as well as all the mothers who hated their kids were selling drugs.Teddy is also multiple agents.Skully was a real person & they say Claudia was too.

[@spawnyboii]

Teddy selfish

[@davidblackwell6914]

He should have let him in tore his head off not for his father but for him and his family best interest smh all that could have been prevented.

[@jairyngalan6943]

Was grady messing with franklins girl?

[@SithLordNefaar022]

No he was with 1 of them female hitters franklin put on, I think Black Diamond is her name...

[@brandonjames2526]

@@SithLordNefaar022 you right. in addition, black diamond.. the girl Franklin put on in his crew were the girl that was doing hits for skully babymom. She roll with another girl too but the scene when Aunt Louie got shot at the funeral.. black diamond, the other girl and skully bm was who done it.

[@SithLordNefaar022]

@@brandonjames2526 the other girl is Dallas, pretty lil caramel sundae that she is 🍨 😋

[@jairyngalan6943]

Okay that makes more sense I completely forgot about black Diamond!🤦🏾‍♂️

[@jon_ovo3653]

@@SithLordNefaar022 🍮🍦

[@garyfahkir1050]

Wit the 74 million Franklin had he could have sold the bricks cheap as hell made all Profit

[@Rayshon111]

Teddy see how’s Franklin living that’s why he did what he did lol hating

[@7razman]

One thing's been bugging me since watching this scene... Can someone tell me? Did Franklin and Teddy hatch a plot to kill Alton, or not? Because the way season 4 ended it seemed like that was the plan all along, and I even thought that Cissy was in on it with the both of them, but after watching this episode, I'm not so sure.

[@stealththeproducer]

We should find out soon…

[@MrOtmoney]

When frank and cissy talked on the phone she seemed so happy about the baby news, you would think the death of her husband would be the first topic of conversation but it wasn’t, seemed like Alton death was planned and cissy knew but i guess we’ll see what happens

[@stealththeproducer]

@@MrOtmoney I was thinking that same thing when that scene played out. I know it had been months later at the point of the conversation, but still. Then I thought, “is he even dead?” But then I recalled the conversation that Teddy had with the CIA guy about what he did in Cuba. Should be interesting moving forward

[@InfamousAWJ]

@@MrOtmoney Exactly

[@7razman]

Well I guess we got the answer... Franklin didn’t know

[@JustAguyFromJersey]

I know how a lot of these comment sections be full of a bunch of BS "somethin out of nothin" conspiracy theories but the way he handed him the cigar from across the room said a lot to me at least. Maybe no one else but I got somethin out of that

[@bcmoney5272]

He didn't trust him 😂He had a gun in the cigar case. It's not a theory They put it right on our face

[@brandonbaerga4972]

Franklin will die when this show is on its last season

[@defnotatroll]

That's obvious really

[@nsmith3128]

Franklin's girl is weird to me. I cant put my finger on it but something is off. And she's just overall not that cute.

[@InfamousAWJ]

Something is DEF off.

[@deannasworld7313]

I literally said the same thing like really why they made her his love interest pissed me off 😂 and I think she’s working with CIA

[@1Tizshaun]

this need too be comment of the year after that season finale 😳😳

[@bananapee86]

RRRRRRRREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

[@Igetsitin89]

It just goes to show how truly horrible Teddy character was .....he was mad to hear about franklin & grady relationship n how franklin's was planning to go legit .... he didnt like that si he killed grady in order to keep control n keep him in his pocket

[@user-kb8lw9is7x]

Matthew corner....chiquita Harding store / club .,.we in tab b us