Germany: Low Crime, Clean Prisons, Lessons for America | Jeff Rosen | TEDxMountainViewHighSchool

[@vtheman1850]

I'mma just share this with you people, I'm from eastern europe, In a relationship with a german woman. On my first trip there, I got kind of lost looking for her place. A policeman noticed me passing by his car for the 10th time, pulled me over, and because the adress was close to where he was parked the dude sat me inside, and droped me off where I needed to go. I was speachless...

[@destryo3287]

Wow that's cool. Never heard something like this happening here in Frankfurt. Maybe because the police has more to do here I don't know. Still nice story

[@Andy-xl7fs]

That's the main difference between USA and Germany. Cops in the States want to be authoritarian and be treated respectfully in kind of “Yeah, I am the law“, most of german Cops just do their jobs und help other people and that doesn't mean they do not pay attention to potentially crimes. Therefore, it's sad to see, many US Cops are corrupt, as well as some parts of justice...such a shame.

[@hannorasmusholtiegel6044]

@@destryo3287 Happens here in kiel too

[@jonas162]

yeah, the german police are real homies

[@davidbleul6015]

@@jonas162 cant relate at all ^^

[@karltherock8372]

50000 dollars per year for college? In Germany i pay 360€ per year

[@paulschminke5979]

Wo gehst du auf die schule? Bildung ist ein Grundrecht und Schule umsonst

[@karltherock8372]

@@paulschminke5979 ich rede von universitäten und da gibts gebühren

[@paulschminke5979]

@@karltherock8372 kk

[@3x364]

thefire7 * 50.000

[@karltherock8372]

@@3x364 Dann gehst du wohl auf keine normale Uni^^

[@sep9382]

Im just here to push my german ego

[@holladiew4ldfee]

same I think wee need some pride about our country lol

[@lissandraotp7219]

MAKE GERMANY GREAT AGAIN

[@marvin5985]

@@lissandraotp7219 Again?😂

[@alexolotl124]

It’s time to like ourselves again.

[@mohammadkhanaqin1476]

😂

[@NightOwl-M]

I live in the Netherlands, close to German border as an Asian woman. The Dutch travel to German to buy gasoline, groceries or even to medical specialists as the waiting list in the Netherlands is too long. I was afraid when I visited Germany for the first time, merely because of the history I’ve heard. I can now tell you, I’ve been treated better in Germany than in Netherlands. No judgement look or rude behaviour. I feel safe to visit the country without my Dutch husband to see my doctor or even just to buy Christmas presents.

[@bobtronexy4091]

I am living in Hamburg (germany) and we once played against a prison team, because that's a part of rehabilitation and also a reward for good behaving inmates. It was like the most normal football match I ever played.

[@Cedric2604]

Eigentlich ja auch eine coole aktion :)

[@bobtronexy4091]

@@Cedric2604 Ja, hat auch Spaß gemacht. Die Gefangenen waren sehr entspannt und freundlich (klar mussten sie auch), aber das ist auch ne riesen Chance für die mal 2 Stunden einfach nur abzuschalten und Sport zu machen mit völlig fremden. Ich fand das war ne klasse Aktion.

[@bobtronexy4091]

@@DirkVos1977 Ja genau, so ist es bei uns auch.

[@user-ld6jz8rv7i]

I read hamburg, I upvote

[@saintundead5127]

Wo wohnst du

[@dinolino3313]

Paragraph 1 of the German constitution actually says: "Human dignity *is* inviolable"

[@altareggo]

Wow! In most countries its more like "Human dignity?? What's that, anyway??"

[@jesmcalli]

In the United States, if you're a shitbag who violates someone else's human dignity, you go to prison. Don't be a shitbag, and you won't go to prison. It's not rocket science.

[@capuchinseven]

​@@jesmcalli AH yes the old, "if you've done nothing wrong you have nothing to fear" strawman, which history both modern and ancient show is utter rubbish but people keep on saying it and believing it. I was wondering how long I'd have to scroll before I saw someone parrot it.

[@jesmcalli]

@@capuchinseven Yeah no, that's not remotely the argument. Nice try though. Because a tiny minority of people may be innocent of the crime they're in prison for ( but, likely guilty of other crimes), everyone should be let off the hook? Please.

[@Eric-ye5yz]

@@jesmcalli…… And if the biggest violators of human dignity has been the Government ???.….. You see those over simplistic explanations keep coming don't they?

[@DerSenat]

If you treat people like animal, they behave like animals

[@Magistrella]

@Juden Arier The question should always be: Why is acting someone like an animal, and how do we make him/her human again? And that is the huge difference between the US and here. Offenders are not treated like monsters when they get incarcerated or back out, to prevent them falling back into old schemata that got them into prison in the first place. That's why the US has a 50% higher relapse quotia then Germany. And boy, those 50% would mean you'd have only ~470/100.000 in prison and save 1/3 of the money you spend on that rotten draconian system.

[@dmay3391]

"If you treat people like animal, they behave like animals" *Give a Leftist a bone and he will obey you for a lifetime.*

[@youtubeistscheie3496]

Yathii i hate that comparison.

[@jollyolly34]

@Juden Arier That's lame.

[@ekaterinas8796]

If you take their hope, they have nothing more left...

[@froggentleman3089]

in germany are right now less neonazis than in the usa

[@arandomslav5992]

@Google Inc. percentage

[@koppsr]

Oh really? Funny. Every major political party has "FIGHT THE RIGHT WINGERS!" on their official agenda. Who Are they fighting, if there's less neo Nazis?? I wonder...

[@magoth23]

@@koppsr They are fighting the right wingers as you said. Nothing to wonder about.

[@koppsr]

@@magoth23 plus if you hear the media here, neo Nazis are Everywhere, millions of euros get sunk into the fight against right, which as I said, is just another name for neo Nazis here.

[@magoth23]

@@koppsr When the old fucks die off there will hopefully be less. Gladly the right isnt really putting up much of a fight.

[@ceruchi2084]

German prisons are surprisingly clean places? In my experience, anywhere a German lives for more than ten minutes becomes a very clean place.

[@kettenotter]

Then you haven't seen my room...

[@oh4905]

Kettenotter Hahahahahhaha

[@mirjamwurtz6408]

Never been to Berlin, have you?

[@Wolfdings]

Couple of years ago, when I was on a businesstravel to Austin, I was invited to one of your hosts families over thanksgiving. It was a lovely and wonderful experience and after we finished, I started to help collecting and washing the dishes and they were surprised and told me, that this is so German :D But that's how I learned it. No matter where you are, work together, support and help to finish things faster... so yeah, I clean up whereever I stay ;)

[@stavas05]

Oh Yeah yeah Nahui

[@tilvur3213]

I don't want to be a buzzkill or anything, I am agreeing with Jeff Rosen, generally. But as a german professional working in the german correction system, I'd like to correct a few misunderstandings, mostly stemming from the type of prison Mr. Rosen apparently visited. Heidering prison is a very new, state-of-the-art prison. There are other prisons in Germany, which are much more bleak then Heidering: Old prison buildings with few windows high up in the walls, much less natural light, without cafeterias in the style you just saw in the video. In some german prisons, many inmates still spend a lot of hours (up to 23) in their cells, and not everyone has a cell of his (or her) own. Also, in many prisons everyone gets the same food, the inmates don't cook for themselves on a daily basis- cooking is more of recreational thing happening a few times a week (or less). How much sports, recreation, or possibilities to leave the prison for activities outside of it (visiting of doctors, therapists, loved ones etc.) varies to a high degree (from quiete a lot, Heidering style, to almost never (except medical emergencys, and guarded by armed wardens) in old school prisons). Its very much dependend on the directorate of the prison, if they are kind of modern, opend minded people working heavily towards rehabilitation, or more old school, working with a heavy punishment-and-correction mindset. So, what Mr. Rosen showed in this piece is the best, most modern and rehabilitation-oriented standard the german system has to offer. Heidering is not a typical german prison. Having said that- his points are still totally valid. Even the most backwards, punishment-oriented prisons in Germany (which are getting fewer and fewer, as members of old school directorates retiere and are replaced by new people with a different, often more open minded background) will still be much more pleasent places than typical US-places, as even the minimum standard of german prisons required by law gives inmates certain rights probably uncommen in the US correction facilities. Sorry for any grammatical or spelling mistakes. Not my first language, yadda yadda.

[@marcbaxter5996]

Yeah. I was wondering where he got the info from. Phones in cells? Haha.

[@PeterAuto1]

I was looking for this comment. He said in the talk that Heidering is the newest prison. So I asked my self how it is in old prisons.

[@jeromimovasquez9214]

I can respect your statement. I work at a federal prison in Texas and we do have rehabilitation and programs to help inmates get back into society these days. We still need a lot of work but many people don't have a clue what they are saying. I will retire frim the federal prisons in less than a year. Thank you for your honesty and God Bless

[@abadran8174]

I appreciate your integrity.

[@galtha58-trannybear14]

There are 2 reasons to put people in prison. 1. get the bad people away from the good people. 2 rehabilitate the bad people and eventually let them out. This option does not work for all prisoners. Some should never be out among good people again. That group cannot be rehabilitated. 3. There is a group that can be educated, rehabilitated and eventually go out to mix with others without problems but that is never everyone. We need to stop thinking that everyone can be saved.

[@MelIssa-rb9mq]

My Parents are kurdish from Turkey. I was born and raised in Germany. The German society in comparison to others is that everbody got rights but also obligations that everybody should stick to them. That is the reason why Germany comes out of almost all crises safely. It's really very exemplary

[@davidroberson1962]

It is a relatively young country, however. Germany didn't exist as a country until the late 1800s and the current Germany is only about 70 years old. 70 years isn't that long of a track record. What first world country hasn't made it through their crises safely in the last 70 years?

[@arnodobler1096]

@@davidroberson1962 Well, in the past there were principalities, counties, kingdoms under an emperor (very US-like, if I think about it). European at that time, see Italy. But one should not compare states, countries, peoples and nations today and then 1:1.

[@flupser6691]

@@davidroberson1962 Germany is way older my friend. 70 years would be from 1953 to 2023. That means you started counting the years after the world war 2? The country or Germany itself is way older, at least 1200 or so years old while the USA is round about 240 years old and its starting point was at higher technological standpoint considering people came from all over the world to start a new life. I would even dare say that the USA is the youngest country in the world or at least i have not heard the founding of a new country. You have to google yourself if you want to know it exactly tho. The USA and Germany have the potential to be even better and hopefully will be. Cheers Mate, have a nice day.

[@davidroberson1962]

@@flupser6691 Germany became a country in 1871. It was just a part of the Holy Roman Empire before that. "70 years or so". 1949 is when the government began and even then Germany was only half a country until the Berlin wall fell. It wasn't it's own country any more any conquered nation was. Germany, as you know it today, is only 33 years old. America is the oldest Democracy in the world at 240 years old. None of the major European powers have had a continuous existence. Note that you said America is only that old. Yet, the country was here and populated by the same people previous to that time. You can't go by how long the land has been there otherwise all lands are the same age more or less. Why not say America is 600, 1000, 50,000, or however many years old? America, as we know it, has been around since the 1780s more or less. The German empire ended in 1918. Germany became a different country and that in turn failed after it lost WW2 and the country was dissolved and split up. If you look at a map of 800, 1000, 1200, 1400, 1600, and 1800 AD then you will see Germany never existed until the last 1800s. Once again, not only is America not even remotely the newest country, it is one of the oldest continuous western ones.

[@berndschreiber1167]

@@davidroberson1962 The concept of nation in the Middle Ages is different from that of today. "It was just a part of the Holy Roman Empire" is not "true" and expresses a lot of "not-knowing". Your called "Holy Roman Empire" is correctly the "Holy Roman Empire of the German Nation" (962-1806). In the Middle Ages, the concept of nation was defined by religion, at that time the Catholic and therefore the reference to Rome. A country is defined by language and culture. The founding of the Reich in 1871 was a "formal" fulfillment of the new concept of nation (, imitating the nonsense of all other nations.) Nota Bene: Incidentally, I also think it is too clumsy to see the USA as the oldest democracy.

[@Bluestarr]

50,000$ for college? Wtf? What is wrong with you America?

[@Yatagarasu-b9w]

A product of liberalism and corporatism. They have to finance some stuff individually other countries tax-fund but have to pay less taxes in return. The real problem is that student loans and financing student debt became a billion dollar business in the U.S.. Many companies are trying to make a buck with desperate students or graduates.

[@konrad972]

Da ist mir die Studiengebühr lieber ;)

[@karozans]

$50,000 per year in the USA is only at Ivy league colleges like Harvard, Yale, and Stanford. At other Universities that are still very good, tuition can be as low as $3000 or $5000 per year. When you compare comparable Universities around the world, you find out that they cost more or less about the same. The difference is that in Europe, everyone pays for college via taxation for their entire lives even if they don't ever go. In the USA, you pay for the college you go to.

[@lm10n1]

Karozans 3000 to 5000 still is way more than it is in Germany. Its around 600 per year hear

[@karozans]

@@lm10n1 It is only 600 per year if you do not include the taxes that you pay from cradle to grave for education.

[@realfacts9867]

24:45 It is very arrogant of Rosen to say: "I did not come to Germany to forgive..." How can a Jewish person, born after WW2, consider to forgive or not a German person, also born after WW2 like him. So Rosen would say to me: "I forgive you something, which did not happend to me" and I should answer: "I apologise for something, which I did not do." Does Rosen not know, that countries are not acting, the people of the countries are acting and 98% or so of people acting in WW2 are dead.

[@PatronofDeath]

crimes done by nazi germany are unforgivable. he did not say "i will not forgive a german person for what happened", he simply said "i will not forgive". i agree with that, and so do most germans, they will not forget nor forgive what happened, and thats very good. it makes you humble, and humbleness is the thing most people lack. they know what happened, and they dont try to hide what went wrong, it is the only way to improve and prevent this disgrace from happening once more. the appropriate statement isnt "i will not forgive you/the germans", it is "i will not forgive" like he said it. the appropriate answer wouldnt be "ich entschuldige mich" (i apologize). it would be "es tut mir leid" (i am sorry). you can feel sorry when someone is in pain, even when it wasnt you hurting him. its about sharing the pain (literally), the only way to reunite and reconcile. especially in these times, where people try to deny the holocaust, where the rightwing rises again in germany and the rest of europe, even in the US, its good to be reminded of what happened the last time.

[@DimmVargr]

Crimes done by Nazi Germany are unforgivable. On the other hand, crimes committed by every other country or nation apparently are. Why?

[@twitertaker]

+Dimm Vargr Who said that? Many critize the USA for the two nukes on Japan. And they are right. Many critize the Britains for bombing the civil population of Dresden in WW2. And they are right. That are only 2 examples of inhuman action by the "heroes" of WW2. You cannot forget that past, but learn from it. That is what GB, Germany and even the USA did.

[@wolfgangwalk337]

It is his right to forgive or not to forgive as he wants. Nobody can force anyone to forgive anything. Forgiveness comes to you - or not. He didn't let his pain get into the way of his judgement - and that is really all you can ask of anyone. There is no more powerful demonstration of what enlightenment can do!

[@MichaelLinkeMarketing]

I agree. People don't walk around and say. "I didn't come to Italy to forgive" referring to the horrible actions of the Roman Empire.

[@mr.froschi6526]

The funny thing that in Germany it's technically legal to break out of prison cause of the right of freedom of every individual in Germany. But the crimes you have to commit to get out (like taking hostage or damaging the prison) aren't. Just another little bit I wanted to throw in there.

[@dumontxt9813]

Not to mention that the prison clothes on the escape.... Theft is. Oh yes we Germans are already a funny heap ^ ^

[@emsnewssupkis6453]

Germany is being destroyed and liberalism is doing a great job of it. Germany is NOT SAFER at all.

[@michaelutech4786]

@@emsnewssupkis6453 AfD or USA?

[@sugar5374]

Michael Utech Expecting an AfD supporter to speak and write proper english...

[@emsnewssupkis6453]

@@sugar5374 Sie sint alle verrüct.

[@pjlewisful]

This was so informative & interesting. We Americans need to admit & accept when we could help ourselves, as a whole, by learning from other countries.

[@wwbuirkle]

What works for one country doesn't always work for another. Don't believe the hype Germany's crime rate has gone way up in the last 25yrs thanks to open borders

[@leojanuszewski1019]

Not Germany. Germany doesn't get to smugly compare itself to anybody.

[@hdbrot]

@@leojanuszewski1019 What‘s the problem with Germany?

[@kirdiekirdie]

As a German I find it a bit offensive that someone finds it that hard to accept that the country isn't the same as 70 years ago. Most of the people living back then aren't even alive anymore.

[@maxfriis]

I find it hard to see what's offensive about this self reflection on the American system and policies. America need more people that is willing to be inspired by other places rather than the Fox news America is great feel good story.

[@maxfriis]

Not from Germany sry, but lot's of positive (and some negative) stuff to learn from there.

[@leojanuszewski1019]

Because you still don't allow europeans to live as they will. You want muslim "refugees"?---YOU keep 'em and STOP trying to force them on to other sovereign states who DON'T WANT THEM.

[@americancitizen748]

kirdiekirdie - True. And Americans today are not slaveholders.

[@Robidu1973]

However, in order to make your country a better place in the future, you have to deal with its past first.

[@xiaolan1369]

I feel like Germany reflects so much more on it's horrible past than other countries do. For example Japan.. like they were literally allies. But somehow most young Japanese people don't even know about that. And when you think of Japan you don't think of that. On the other hand when you think about Germany it's one of the first things that comes to your mind. Sooo many countries including the US have done terrible things. The reason why Germany progressed so much is because it reflects unlike any other country.

[@peaveyst7]

we try to improve ourselfs every day. thats what drives us here in germany.

[@rao803]

It's the christian mindset, the feeling of guiltiness. Edit: Even if they consider themselves as christians or not, all native germans share the same christian values, and the feeling of guiltiness is an important characteristic of chistian people, as well as shame and honour is important for muslims. Maybe I'm not expressing well, English in not my native language.

[@dr.j.redacted3679]

@@rao803 i would decidedly oppose this assement. Germany is a secular country with a very ethnic and theologically diverse population.

[@rao803]

@@dr.j.redacted3679 Ethnic diversity? All Germany is mainly christian. Even if you are atheist, your mindset is still christian-based.

[@dr.j.redacted3679]

@@rao803 that is a very difficult claim to make i hope you have evidence to support it.

[@patrickboucher2907]

As an American living in Germany I can attest to the higher standard from few if any potholes to the needed worldwide applauded environmental activism. Yes, Germans pay a great deal more in taxes BUT besides repaired streets there is also two human rights. Access to health care and access to education. By access I mean free. Everyone has these two inalienable rights and any government that claims to be free that DOES NOT give, grant, provide these two things cannot, cannot call itself a free, progressive government.

[@Tom-kh2vx]

The problem in the states is the mindset. If you don't have/provide/give you shall not receive anything. So if you are not rich you won't get access to healthcare, etc. I hope at one point in the future the mindset of many americans will change

[@geoden]

@@Tom-kh2vx Education is one of the most important things we have, so no-one should have to pay to be educated!

[@karozans]

To claim that one person must serve another is the exact opposite of freedom. It's slavery. To claim that slavery is freedom, is ignorance so assounding that is takes on the form of a miracle.

[@karozans]

@@geoden Education is free and it always has been. Schooling is not free and should not ever be provided to anyone at the expense of taxpayers.

[@geoden]

@@karozans I won't argue with you, your mindset is just wrong. I am well UK schooled and it cost me nothing.

[@rolfgerdes7259]

Very interesting and very moving talk. I am German, born 1963. As in every country there is good and bad and there are good and bad people. Culture is just a small layer on top of the wild animal that we are. Unfortunately, the Nazis managed to destroy that layer. Not all joined the Nazis but too many.

[@truxton1000]

I am norwegian born in 1966, as far as the events before and under ww2 most people simplify the complex situation Europe had to deal with. It was Goering that when asked how the nazis got Germans to “obey orders” he answered it was simple, just put enough fear into people and the would do anything you ask. And the fear was from the east, the Soviet communists were planning to invade the rest of Europe spreading the communist ideology to the rest of the world starting with Poland/Germany and then just continue. Anyway it was the fear of communists that was the number one reason for so called right wing movements not only in Germany but the rest of European countries too, I feel that this angle to explain what happened for some reason was suppressed not only after the war but still is.

[@hex374]

@@truxton1000 what i find strange is the similarity between the last 2 years and what happened then i noticed alot of people going along with the government and i thought to myself nothing has changed in all these years its part of human nature to fit in with whatever mass narrative is pushed

[@kinderleichtlerneneasypeas6885]

@@truxton1000 You are right with this, Mr.

[@kinderleichtlerneneasypeas6885]

@@hex374 Exactly this.

[@RobertMJohnson]

nice energy policy, Gerdes. Thanks for getting the world into the brink of yet another world war. Europe's arrogance and stupidity is just so frustrating for Americans who understand that national security is job 1

[@perromanchado]

I am an englishman who has been living in Germany for almost 23 years. I am blessed with wonderful friends here.

[@monkeydank7842]

perromanchado Schön, dass Du da bist.

[@perromanchado]

R Nies Actually I have known several. Lovely, lovely people. 😊

[@davidkuchen7208]

@R Nies While I don't live there, I visited Britain several times and always found the people I met to be extremely nice. I can't make any general statement, but I'm very sure that you can live a great life as a native german in Britain.

[@Jonathanatus]

@@prepperjonpnw6482 Its interesting that so many Americans think muslims are invading and destroying Europe just because they saw dubious news reports🤔

[@willswomble7274]

I am British but would respectfully NEVER go to Germany for one day let alone 23 years!

[@gaillewis5472]

Prisons are privatized in the United States. Crime is big business, so putting people away creates huge profits.

[@ZemplinTemplar]

Sadly.

[@renataostertag6051]

Yep, that's it. In the UK the prisons are also run by private companies. The UK have the highest rate by far of imprisoning people.

[@evad7933]

@chcpr1 Wrong. If the justice system wants criminals it will find criminals.

[@Odis-edgarDavidsonBene]

Chapter 27 code of federal regulations 72. 11 clearly states all kinds of commercial who's profiting War profiteering for the master race

[@Odis-edgarDavidsonBene]

@chcpr1 yeah just keep building prisons instead of educating your people and feeding your people I bet you're heavily invested into municipal bonds

[@iwersonsch5131]

We don't formulate article 1 with "shall be". We formulate it with "is", probably to emphasize for how essential we hold it

[@anna-flora999]

The official translation by the government says 'shall be'. To quote "Article 1 [Human dignity] (1) Human dignity shall be inviolable. To respect and protect it shall be the duty of all state authority. (2) The German people therefore acknowledge inviolable and inalienable human rights as the basis of every community, of peace and of justice in the world. (3) The following basic rights shall bind the legislature, the executive, and the judiciary as directly applicable law."

[@tuxedosteve1904]

@@anna-flora999 yes but thats a wrong translation. It says "is"

[@veranicus6696]

@johannes Schenker , you afe right about the official translation. It's more of a context translation error. First: The german text says "ist" wich translates into the english "is". Second: In germany it is NOT a princible, like you shall not kill. . or you shall honor mother and father. It is not understood a . princible. It is understood as a concept. Third: It is an unmovable concept,wich is an important tool for germans to come to terms with their past history. That is the reason why the only translation can be :"Human Dignity is iviolable". From the german point of view of course.

[@anna-flora999]

@@veranicus6696 als deutscher verstehe ich die deutsche Sichtweise durchaus.

[@veranicus6696]

🙂

[@lizonmirda6294]

I moved to Germany from India couple of years ago. It was the best decision of my life.

[@furiscafynn6275]

Brit here, been to Germany twice, staying within a city. Incredible place, and the people were chill and kind. Respect to them

[@Yatagarasu-b9w]

Thanks. British people are very chill and funny :) And I learned to ask the room if it is ok to open / close the window. Apparently we Germans just open / close it without asking : /

[@ekaterinas8796]

Sadly you left “us”... hope you stay safe during Corona!

[@Sonderbarr]

FF , Always refreshing to hear this coming from a Brit. All too often Germans have to hear from fine folks like bulletsholes below. They manage to appear everywhere.

[@Sonderbarr]

@bulletsholes Your type needs to get some new material - or is that too much for you to handle?

[@geoden]

I'm British also, Germany is a good sensibly organised country.

[@feuerlordzuko9897]

Video: contains the word “German” Germans: Die Kommentare gehören uns

[@D4nt4lion]

These days we invade Commentary Sections!

[@lieberfreialsgleich]

Der totale Krieg ist noch nicht zu Ende!

[@zakuro8532]

packt mal englisch einer die deutsche Wurst raus

[@MrGerdbrecht]

Stand you not so on. @pearls shell: Correct.

[@jessthebeautylover1758]

Lass uns einfach sagen: hippidie hoppidie this comment section is now our property!😅😂

[@Lasastard]

There is one aspect I was missing here - and that's the economics of prisons. My understanding is that prisions on the US are privately operated, at least in parts, so there is a bit of a perverse incentive to put and keep people in prision. In Germany, prisions are state-owned and are not meant to generate revenue...

[@ronwulker3463]

Only 8% of U.S. prisons are privately operated.

[@theboyisnotright6312]

Oh it's worse then that even. My brother-in-law is a prison guard in California. His union lobbies for harsher penelties. I don't understand this system of legal bribery, excuse me lobbying😠

[@gandolfthewhite]

There are Federal prisons in the US. There are private prisons in the US and there are public prisons. Public prisons are owned and operated by a state or the federal government.

[@Micro41]

In American prisons and jails, the toughest prisoners or gangs run the prisons. The guards are there to contain the prisoners. Most rehabilitation is done by private individuals and nonprofit groups like Alternative to Violence Project of the Quakers.

[@DerDudelino]

Yes, our prison system is different because it's almost 100 percent state-financed, we don't operate private prisons. Meaning they are not for profit, the US prison system is first and foremost a money machine. Keeping people in the system, makes these companies money, so they are not necessarily interested in letting them go. Another one is the lowest murder rate in Europe which probably has to do with a) very limited access to guns and b) a very stable social system. If you loose your job, the government takes care of you, gives you a home if necessary, tries to find you a new job. It's not perfect, but much, much better than the homelessness crisis in the US due to failed social security.

[@edwindoe3734]

Thats it!

[@EvilMonkey7818]

Nope. That's parroting finger pointing. There are private prisons around the developed world, not just the US. Less than 10% of American prisoners are in private prisons, and almost none were 25 yrs ago when the US had its highest murder and violent crime rates in modern history. Private prisons should probably be done away with, but you're way overstating their impact. The low murder rate in Germany is cultural. There's no more than wishful thinking correlation that the lower murder rate is because of larger welfare programs. Though more guns in the US, including many illegally obtained guns do play a role. The recidivism rate in the US is also higher because our prisons are almost entirely focused on punishment. Rehabilitation is waaaay down on the list of priorities. Being the world's "melting pot" is a blessing and a curse for the US. Germany is rather homogenous in its population compared to the US, Mexico, or Brazil. It doesn't take a genius to see how that affects crime, but that's a long book unto itself.

[@herberthans7015]

"very stable social system" "the government takes care of you" are you completely blind/uneducated or is that just hear-say? we have the biggest low-income sector in europe and at the same time we are the most wealthy country here. how exactly does this display a "stable" social system? "the government takes care of you" are you joking? the salaries are at 1997 levels today, no increases worth mentioning in the last 20 years, REAL inflation of 80-100% since 2000, none of the big players in the industry pay real taxes, oh and our prison/law system isn't exactly worth showing off either because 1) it often takes years to convict someone for a crime, the law/education system in germany is plenty decades old 2) there are a lot better prison systems in the world f.e. in norway, it's like you're saying "my 1980 honda is a great and modern car" but that's only true if you compare it to a 1950 VW beetle, if you open your eyes for the real world then there's nothing great about any of our institutions. at least I can't think about a single government institution in our country which is modern and does a good job. you live in a society where the poor constantly finance the luxuries of the rich and go out and say we have a stable social system? which part of it is stable? the part where 6 million people who have jobs live in or next to poverty (and that's an official number, reality is always a lot worse than the numbers no matter if you're talking unemployment, inflation, etc.) or the part where 12,5 million people are already struck by poverty? you can close your eyes but in the UK elderly people are freezing to death because they can't afford to heat up their homes, and 12,5 million people are already close to facing the same problems aswell as another 6 million just one step away from the same poverty. the same thing is going to happen to us because people like you close their eyes while our money loses value each day and our salaries never increase. you think it's a sign of a "stable social system" that unemployed people get small little handouts? I'll tell you what it is, it is a sign that not everyone in our society is as blind as you. as long as there are enough awake and/or educated people amongst us the politicians will never be able to give people in one of the wealthiest countries in the world less than they need to afford a home and food, that's exactly why the system hasn't changed in a decade, because they can't take more from us and they have no intentions to give us more, so they entertain/distract us while opening doors for big time tax-evasion, military exports and the resulting refugees and thanks to inflation we still get ~4%+ less money every year while salaries (if at all) may only increase by max 2%.

[@FN-ek2wz]

EvilMonkey7818 I as a german. Can‘t agree totally. In Germany there are many different cultures ( big Turkish community, people from east Europe). And not to forget about the refugee currents of the last years with millions of Africans and arabics. Germany today is also multicultural with all it’s positive and negative sites.

[@Prebzs]

@@herberthans7015 If you talk about official numbers, take all official numbers and not only the ones, you like. Inflation was between 0,3% and 2,1% per year since 2010 (compared to 5%+ in the 90s). The "Reallohn" (salary adjusted by inflation) raised always(!) in the last years (between 0,5% and 2,7% per 3 month). This are the official numbers. The problem with low-income and poverty is a mathematical: If the mean salary is high, the limit of "low-income" and "poverty" is also higher compared to a country with lower mean salary. Thats because it is a percentage limit! I dont say, everything is perfect and The Dudelino neither. Yes, there are companies, especially some US-Tech companies, which pay close to no taxes due to some flaws in EU law. That sould be changed. But overall we are on a very good level and, yes, have a stable system. Unemployed people actually get very much money - compared to other countries. And there is no time limit on it. It is enough to buy food. The home is paid completly. That should be enough. If you want more, you should do something for it. Nobody should expect, that the working people pay unemployed people for more then some basic stuff like food and home. Do something for it, education is free in germany (even university is free, thats not normal in other countries), so use it, there are enough open jobs. And no, education system is not as bad as PISA says, german education system aims at skills, which are actually needed in the companies (dual system - Ausbildungen/Berufsschule - as well as dual university and also in primary and secondary school), but this skills are not relevant in PISA. Improving everything even if its already on a high level is on the one side good for being an inovation leader and economically successful, but on the other side it leads to many complains about thing, which are actually quite good (but of course could be even better). Thats the pro and con of never being satisfied with the current situation - and thats a very german thing.

[@appealinbanana]

That was very moving. I’m going to tell my children this when they are old enough to understand.

[@Wuppie62]

It's not just Germany that has built a better society for ALL of its citizens. Other western and northern European countries have as well, sometimes even better than Germany: the Netherlands, Denmark, Sweden, Finland, Norway, etc. These countries all have in common that they have implemented a modern, capitalistism based economy in combination with democratic and social structures and values: it's a hybrid form of free enterprise together with a national, collective systems with high standards. Yes, overall the income taxes are higher, but by creating good infrastructure and facilities with high standards, which are affordable and obtainable for ALL, societal problems are minimised and most people are healthier, happier, better educated and safer. It pays off to take good care off ALL. And we still have our personal freedom. It is NOT "communism", as many cold war rethoric indoctrinated americans label us. Most of those people never visited these European countries, let alone that they have actual lived there. They don't know what they're talking about and rather blindly defend the US, based upon dogmatic patriotism in combination with ignorance and prejudice. The smartest organisations are those that are self-critical, reflective, that learn from others who have less problems and that learn from their own mistakes.

[@janvanruth3485]

the smartest organisations learn from the mistakes others make...

[@britneysmith176]

Thats what I wanted to say. Compared to other european countries germany has a lot to improve

[@Wuppie62]

@@britneysmith176 Tell me, what do you actualy know about Germany and other European countries? In what country do you live?

[@dshom]

Sweden is a completely failed country. See where they are in 10 years.

[@Wuppie62]

@@dshom " a completely failed country " Extraordinary claims need extraordinary proof. But never mind. People who talk in such ridiculous absolutes and superlatives, loose their credibility.

[@heckmac1697]

Ich habe noch nie verstanden wie ein Land wie die USA mit ihrer Wirtschaftsmacht ihren Landsleuten keine kostenfreie Bildung und eine staatliche Krankenversicherung zur Verfügung stellt. Wir deutsche meckern zwar wie die Weltmeister über alles in unseren Land, haben es aber schon sehr gut. Dafür bin ich sehr dankbar.

[@PpunktP]

so isses

[@feuerloscher1236]

Wir meckern nicht, wir bleiben nur selbstkritisch um uns ja nicht zufrieden zu geben und den Laden am laufen zu halten. :D

[@sw.7519]

Heterogenität vs. Homogenität.

[@bastian.michel]

Jupp, frag ich mich auch immer wieder.

[@tomvance3646]

Demographie

[@JaccduLac]

Jungs seid ehrlich ihr wollt euch auch alle nur bisschen krass fühlen

[@marlonsmusic]

Hero Jack true

[@larrycantdraw8995]

Du hast ja Recht.....

[@eeerik8051]

Hero Jack true😂

[@Travel_Matt]

Wieso sollte man sich krass fühlen? Sehe keinen Grund, Deutschland wird hier nur mit den USA verglichen. 🤔

[@masterchief-vd1xs]

@@Travel_Matt Du meinst die Messlatte liegt nicht hoch? 😂

[@barbarawilliams9412]

My son has 20 yrs in an Alabama state prison 22 yrs in federal prison after that "without the sanctity of parole "is what Al attorney general Jay Town said . Thay gave a kidnapping baby beating murderer less time than my son who is an addict and never hurt anyone but himself. My child, my first born son. It doesn't have to be this way.

[@MsDangerousCupcake]

So sorry for what you and your son are going through. Hope the system changes during his time and you can reunite

[@arnodobler1096]

I´m so sorry. From Germany 🙋‍♂

[@krishnoffski2895]

German here, I am so sorry this is happening to you. Wishing you all the best

[@elias2447]

Der Moment wenn das Gefängnis besser aussieht als meine Schule...

[@hdbsnhdh8209]

XD

[@hdbsnhdh8209]

Same

[@f.r.4329]

@Phelan Daher wäre ich auch für Sozialarbeitsstunden für Kaugummi spucken, Müll fallen lassen etc. statt Bußgeldern

[@f.r.4329]

@Phelan Natürlich sollte das selbstverständlich sein, allerdings ist die Frage ob eine solche Bestrafung nicht lehrreicher als eine einfache Geldstrafe ist?

[@f.r.4329]

@Phelan Eine gute Frage, es war erstmal ein Vorschlag, ich glaube bei denen die rehabilitiert werden können würde diese Form der Bestrafung wirken, auch verbunden mit Lob. Ich rede ja auch nicht von vielen Stunden, wenn man für eine solche Tat zwei Stunden Müll wegräumen ansetzt wäre vielen schon geholfen.

[@petalumapedagogue]

The German system sounds humane, rational, and effective-- unlike in the U.S.

[@Nightstalker314]

It is anything but rational, it is run by bureaucrats.

[@Bamster-ju1oe]

Kathryn Drew im German and live in Germany it's really not it's run by bureaucrats and the way the guy in the video presented it made it look like a utopia but it's not

[@petalumapedagogue]

@@Bamster-ju1oe Thanks for replying-- but it still might be a lot better than here where more and more of our state and federal prisons are run by for proft corporations

[@petalumapedagogue]

@@Nightstalker314 Haha good answer. But German system still seems much better than our system

[@FrozenGameingHD]

actually, I am a german law student involved in research regarding international comparison of legal systems (focused on criminal law). And oh god I swear I am so happy for living in this country. No offense.

[@oooceanman]

Hey Canada. we really should have coffee together some day, - Germany

[@dukeofworcestershire7042]

Yes please, I want a stronghold of rationally thinking people, even in North America.

[@p3chv0gel22]

Well, i'm from Germany and currently i'm in Quebec🤔😂

[@faker2060]

Nah lieber a German bier

[@JANKOLLPLAYZFX]

Canada is very nice!

[@jlniklaus3159]

@@undeadcircustvkv give them a job

[@markhamer7220]

Most Americans can never accept that other countries do things better than they do.

[@DerDudelino]

It's rather simple: Prisons should never be a for profit system. in Germany we want people to rehabilitate, we want them to lead a normal life again. In the US prison owners have an interest in keeping as many inmates as possible because they make billions with it. And the least space they give their inmates, the more money they can make.

[@Julia-lk8jn]

... and the less space the inmates get, the more tensed up and aggressive they get, the more incidents you have, the more you can add to their sentences. Which doesn't make life any easier on the correctional officers. And that in turn should add to the tension ...

[@DerDudelino]

@Gerry C :I'd agree. Germany for example stopped punishing people for the the personal consumption of drugs - only if you sell them, it's a criminal offense.

[@Bumi-90]

{edit} And even in Germany we want to improve, we look up north at Denmark Norway and Sweden in a similar way as Americans look at Germany. As long as it is necessary to build a fence {prison fence} to protect humans from one and another you should seek for better ways to prevent and address crime. The perfect judicial system is the one that has nothing to do.

[@Bumi-90]

@Gerry C I don't think a prison fence is build so the prisoners tv doesn't get stolen, but so he won't go out to harm someone

[@Bumi-90]

@Gerry C I talked about German prisons still having to improve further, and they have fences.

[@SpiffRogue]

“Generally speaking, punishment makes men hard and cold; it concentrates; it sharpens the feeling of alienation; it strengthens the power of resistance” F. Nietzsche

[@ceruchi2084]

Nietzsche also follows a similar line to Dostoyevsky. He says the more uncomfortable and anxious a society is, the more it wants to torture criminals as a sort of emotional release. In the "Genealogy of Morals," he imagines a society so at ease with itself (so affluent and comfortable) that it hardly punishes criminals at all. Now it reads like a description of Norwegian prisons.

[@paulsevenitz616]

You canot make it an universal rule..you have to look at the soul of every criminal individually..some all ready feel remorse others will use every comfort and snear if not receiving a real punishment...all need care yes.. but I find the victims should have influence on the punishments and demand practical actions..

[@ytucharliesierra]

@@paulsevenitz616 That's an archaic approach you really shouldn't contemplate.

[@MartinMunich1337]

@@paulsevenitz616 "judge i pledge for death penalty, to conduct today! This man has knocked over my cup of beer."

[@paulsevenitz616]

@@MartinMunich1337 this is unfair..you can maximally ask for destroy his beer... i mean when your son is murdered you should receive the chance to judge..to forgive and then let the justice decide or to seek revenge and push the justice in a certain direction.. f.e. ordering certain services money work ..a long stay in prison or in worst case death..however i am not a fan of this and i am against death Penalty in general..but the word of the victim should play a bigger role

[@paulschminke5979]

Im a simple man I read Germany in the title I click on in

[@seelenwinter6662]

but he forget, that the US are the new na+zis... not the world police, they want to tell us... and he bought US cars, but the americans killed the natives, but that is no problem for him...

[@salmansengul]

1:43 that's a really nice CLS Shooting Brake / Station Wagon there! Also nice Ted Talk.

[@reiserlein]

Well nearly every German who could be forgiven, is dead already. The important thing is not too forget that every war is horrible and got no winners. We should not forget what was done to anybody in any war, as we are all the same and you can only sort out the human and the inhuman who do this bad things

[@olafbrolaf3968]

you can make alot of money with wars dude

[@jeffreytackett3922]

Strange, all those videos of people cheering in the background, giving up their personal resources to support the war efforts, etc. All of those people are dead, and that entire nationalist outlook is dead? That seems ... unlikely.

[@reiserlein]

@@jeffreytackett3922 there may be new nationalists in every country, but they didn't do anything what was done in ww2.

[@marr9060]

@@jeffreytackett3922 no of course not everyone is dead. But most are.

[@DaDunge]

This is not really about the war though it's about what happened in the shadow of the war. I would argue that war can be nessecery and perhaps Germany even had a just cause for war, but there was no just cause for the war as it happened, nor for the unimaginable things done in its shadow.

[@ViertesGebot]

A point I feel like he's missing is some more elaboration on the socio-economic factors that have an influence on crime rates. Germany has a "safety net" in social security which plays a huge part in people not committing crimes to survive.

[@coreylougheed]

but crime rates have been trending downward for years. Socio-economic factors and moral values influence incarceration rates and the facts paint a grim picture of the US as a punitive justice system. my question is what purpose does it serve ?

[@curtisalex456]

@@coreylougheed The purpose is to keep certain people in their place! Being poor in the US is a "crime"! Once you enter the Criminal Justice System, you are cut off of a lot of things in society (renting a place, getting a job, opening a bank account are harder). Obviously this affect minorities a lot more.

[@oskarfabian5200]

The problem is that USA has the highest incarceration in the whole world, I just checked so it is not only that. One of the major problems are bails. John Oliver has a piece about it. Check it out.

[@geoden]

I lived and worked in America for ten years, basically, America cares about money, nothing else.

[@gerald6237]

@@coreylougheed me as a German can tell you, that the safety net saves poor people, people with a bad school degree or disabled people who cant work anymore from beeing home less and the need to steal. If you dont have a job in germany, you can infact ask the governwmnt for life Support, which includes monthly Cash for food and stuff, while the governwmnt basically pays your flat, warm water and electricity. And with the social insurance System, theres care for your needs, for example u dont nee dto pay a Single dollar / Euro for your lifesaving Insulin or something like that

[@sommersonne1455]

I, too, think your talk has been very informative, even for me as a german. But I want to point out, that not all prisons in Germany look like the one you visited - especially the older ones! As I went to school, we visited the prison in Landsberg am Lech in Bavaria. This prison was of course clean and with a sterile atmosphere, but they don't have things like balconies and kitchens on every floor and it was much less daylight in there. I think this counts for most german prisons, that have not been built in the las few years. Just wanted to tell this everyone who watches this video - living in prison in Germany is not like living in a hotel or something. They have "closing times" when they have to be in there cells, their day starts early, they have to work. P.S. What I feel positive about german prisons are the efforts to reintegrate the criminals into society, for example can inmates get school-leaving qualifications or do jobtrainings, so that they have a perspective after leaving the prison. And if they have problems with socialisation they can get a therapy etc.

[@LukeToTheHoop]

SommerSonne Super geschrieben, grammatikalisch auf hohem Niveau! Und dann dieses eine "oder" dazwischen, da musste ich schon schmunzeln :D Danke jedenfalls für deinen Kommentar!

[@sommersonne1455]

Ich danke euch für eure Hinweise ;) Über das alle und oder musste ich auch lachen :D

[@timkaradas8255]

Otherwise you could say: I think your talk has been also very informative.

[@Leon-le9cn]

Tim Expect It *has :)

[@Julia-wy8et]

Tim Expect It Though that wouldn't make as much sense I think, because the first sentence didn't include another point other than the fact that the talk has been very informative... (Also wenn du den ersten Satz überhaupt meinst :D)

[@idrennelim-alparaque7174]

Wow! Thank you for this beautiful lesson in human dignity ! I learned so many lessons today from your talk. God bless you for sharing such wonderful lessons on respecting human dignity. ❤❤❤

[@fleeksfleeks]

As a German I found this talk very informative. Thank you!

[@ansgarhorrig1186]

I absousutly witness your Statement.

[@Jasmic0137]

Immer diese Idioten, die zum Spaß andere Leute grundlos beleidigen... Ich glaube Du hast nichts anderes als auf KZbin Leute anzumucken. Immer mit der Ruhe bitte, Dir hat niemand was getan. Es ist keine Schande stolz auf sein Land zu sein. Du bist sicher auch stolz auf Deutschland, oder etwa nicht?

[@ansgarhorrig1186]

Es ist schön zu lesen, das ein angeblich intellektueller Mensch, solche Sätze schreibt. Vielleicht würd man Ihre Kommentare auch ernst nehmen, wenn Sie sich etwas intelligenter und mit beweisen ausdrücken würden. Ja ich bin Stolz, dass ich aus Deutschland zu kommen und bin Stolz hier geboren zu sein. Nur habe ich in Kanada gearbeitet und für die US-Streitkräfte. Von daher kommt meine Aussage nicht von irgendwo her. Im übrigen danke, dass Sie zeigen, das es in Deutschland auch weniger intellektuelle Menschen gibt.

[@fleeksfleeks]

Ich verstehe gerade nicht, um was es hier geht.

[@fleeksfleeks]

Und nein, ich bin nicht stolz auf Deutschland. Ich bin froh hier zu leben und mir gefällt Deutschland, die Offenheit der Mehrheit, geringe Kriminalität u.s.w. Aber stolz bin ich nur auf meine eigenen Leistungen.

[@Pm5810]

I would like to add that this concept he described is not particularly German. Germany is not exceptional. I feel like the USA is rather doing exceptionally bad compared to other developed nations (see his statistics). I say that as a German myself. There are countries in Europe doing worse than us but also countries doing a lot better (e.g. Scandinavian states). I see though why he refered to Germany in particular... Also I think there are two entirely different underlying ideologies in the USA vs. Europe. In the USA imprisonment serves as punishment. In Europe as resocialization.

[@LunnarisLP]

Yeah, there are a lot of better examples in Europe and around (Iceland, Sweden, Denmark) USA has a huge private prison lobby, who is working hard to keep the ban on weed up and to keep people in their prisons. It's a business model, that is abusing people. I Europe prisoners are seen as victims, just like your average bad guy in a Child story or animated movies, who actually just had a harsh youth, and was treated unfair, but if you give him a chance and a working environment, he will be a good guy, whereas America sees a prisoner as human scum, who is maybe genetically bad and can't ever be integrated into society again.

[@JoJoModding]

Pm Müller Yeah, but e.g. iceland has a far lower population making everything easier..

[@LuriTV]

you are proven right by the chart at 5:25

[@mephistovonfaust]

Well he didn't claim that Germany had the best system in the world but rather that he visited Germany and saw that it is much better than the American system. That is like telling somebody that a Mercedes C-Class is better than an Hyundai i30 but there are still S-Classes, Ferraris, Porsches and so on. Of course there are even better options but that is the one he saw in person.

[@Pm5810]

Yep I know. Just wanted to mention it because I always find it interesting to see what other countries do. And there are lots of other countries that you can check out, too. btw - what a name lol

[@Standby4titan]

you do know that germany 2019 has 0 to do with germany 1945

[@juno6994]

Thank you.

[@Josephistry]

No, it's still Germany so 1

[@windshieldlaugh7411]

Forgive but not forget Deutschland wird wieder mehr rechtsextremistisch, da die Zeitzeugen auch abdanken. Schau einfach mal an wie viele die afd wählen. Schande

[@lisikon9064]

@Ataakaari also in dem Deutschland, in dem ich wohne, sitzt die AfD als drittstärkste Kraft im Bundestag. Das schafft man nicht mit ein paar Ländern im Osten...

[@carrypotter4674]

Ist aber nicht so als wären alle AfD Wähler Rechtsextremisten. Ich würde AfD Wähler in 4 Gruppen aufteilen: 1. Leute die extrem reich sind und vom Steuerprogramm der AfD sehr stark profitieren. (sind aber nicht viele) 2. Leute, die tatsächlich rechtsextrem eingestellt sind (auch nicht so viele) 3. Leute, die entweder auf die Propaganda der AfD reinfallen oder vom nahen Umfeld dazu beeinflusst wurden die AfD zu wählen, da sie nicht politisch engagiert genug oder intelligent genug sind, um deren Aussagen zu hinterfragen. (viele) 4. Protestwähler (auch relativ viele)

[@dkcorderoyximenez3382]

Mr. Rosen is a fabulous speaker...hopefully, everyone listened....

[@Noblebass84]

I`m german, born in the 80`s. I grew up on a lot of american culture (music, literature and Baseball as well). Since being taught about german history in the first half of the 20th century I wanted to see germans and americans to overcome this past so bad. Learning from each other is the best thing to come.

[@peaveyst7]

da ist nix was wir von den yankees lernen könnten... alles was die wissen, haben sie von uns geklaut.

[@willswomble7274]

Germans, what do English people wish to learn from you that we do not already know from the history of the 20th century? Oh yes add Merkel and her single-handed destruction of European culture in century 21! Brexit NOW!

[@deadlineuniverse3189]

@@willswomble7274 How about doing politics in parliament without turning them into martial art contests?

[@ThatSux]

@@MienemLeben Ost Deutschland ist selbst schuld an seiner jetzigen Situation! Nach der wiedervereinigung sich selbst direkt als Opfer darstellen & rumheulen das man ignoriert wird.. Anstatt nach der Wiedervereinigung für ein gemeinsames Deutschland aufzustehen, habt ihr euch erstmal in die Ecke gesetzt & geheult wie Jerry Smith! Genauso seit ihr selbst daran schuld das wir euch heutzutage nicht mehr haben wollen, ihr mit eurem "ich hab Angst vor anderen Menschen & ich bin ein kleines weinerliches Mädchen" scheiß! Werdet endlich erwachsen & hört auf in Selbstmitleid zu baden, ihr in der Vergangenheit hängengebliebenen Heulsusen.

[@MienemLeben]

Mr. Meeseeks Ich bin 2005 aus Deutschland gezogen. Allerdings lebt die Hälfte meiner Familie in der Nähe von Bavaria. Ich habe eine Tante, die als Krankenschwester in einem großen medizinischen Zentrum angestellt ist. Diese Migranten warfen Urin auf weibliche Ärzte und Krankenschwestern, die H.IV. positiv. Die andere Hälfte meiner Familie zog auf das Land im Mittleren Westen Amerikas, wo sich zu Beginn des 20. Jahrhunderts vor allem Deutsche niederließen. Meine Familie tut alles, um sich gegen die Krise zu wehren, ohne inhaftiert zu sein.

[@Hekatoncheir_G]

I really love those videos because as a german living in germany we kind of tend to see only the bad stuff taht happens in our lives and cities. Doing your everyday chores leaves very little room to realise how good and worth living in this country is. Seeing the perspective of an outsider is a great way of adjusting ones own view.

[@jurgenhess134]

Fluegelfreak Exactly!

[@thelvadam2884]

Luboman411 Your will be welcome in germany ^_^

[@allcopsarebastards5098]

Luboman411 Go to south Germany near and in Stuttgart are many americans because of the many american military bases.

[@ijehabbi2940]

Absolutely right, I’m a german citizen too, many of us don’t don’t value the system we out here in Germany. I’m proud to be a german.

[@donnarobert1464]

You should be proud to be a German. As an American living in Germany, I feel "safe". I cannot say that for any time I lived in the US. The low crime here is noticeably different. I love it here.

[@williamkai5170]

The Problem about Germans - we are crying everytime on a really high level. We have forgotten how good our Life is compared with many outher Lands.

[@th3th387]

iCh wIlL das NeUe IPHonE 11 PrO

[@harrydehnhardt5092]

@@th3th387 Schön, dass wir das jetzt alle wissen!

[@hannorasmusholtiegel6044]

Lands ist nicht richtig,du meinst countrys, lands hat eine landschaftliche Bedeutung.

[@angriffslusticherWildoger]

W K ja immer diese Idioten die die deutsche Demokratie infrage stellen, nur weil sie nicht jeden Scheiß hinterhertragen bekommen. Am besten einfach alle in Nordkorea aussetzen für eine kleine Lektion

[@harrydehnhardt5092]

@@angriffslusticherWildoger Nö, aber einfach mal in anderen Ländern hinter die Kulissen gucken und vergleichen. Und im Zweifelsfall auch die Eier haben auch mal ne Zeit lang oder für immer woanders zu leben.

[@lkd982]

A most beautiful speech by him, quote the ending concluding about his German prisons investigation "...is that the world might be broken; but it can be repaired."

[@mr.esinteressiertmichnicht6671]

Das er am Ende fasst weinen musste, zeigt, dass er sich mit dem Thema auf einer sehr tiefen Basis auseinander gesetzt hat :). Ehre.

[@hannorasmusholtiegel6044]

Ehre Alla

[@randomhuman3687]

Ich bin dumm und habe keinen Plan, aber nice name you got there. I wonder what it means tho

[@Ratselmeister]

Wer weint hat Recht? Den Bullhit goauben doch nur dumme Kindergärtnerinen.

[@BenutzerNummer1]

@@Ratselmeister Kannst du nicht lesen?

[@irocc]

Rip Xxxtenracion

[@Salem_Rabbit]

I can't believe I sat through 25 minutes of this guy talking without getting bored.

[@Skalli10]

Indeed, he has an interesting way of talking.

[@ericscaillet2232]

@@Skalli10 more like waffling about something that discipline camps wouldn't fix quick quick 😉

[@vip7955]

Omg I didn't even realize that this video was 25 minutes

[@leojanuszewski1019]

Not sure that is to be boasted of...

[@RudolfKooijman]

Exactly. But to be honest, I was sorry it did not last longer, because it was really interesting.

[@happydrawing2637]

"canadians r kinda just like us" All the canadians r shaking

[@Lichtschutzfaktor1]

well technically both are americans

[@crtl5911]

@@Lichtschutzfaktor1 technically everyone who lives in the american continent is american

[@ER1117]

Canadian: I wish he´s wrong

[@Longtack55]

'but nicer." quote quotes

[@kookamunga2458]

Canadians are not like Americans . We don't lock up as many people as them . I am from Canada and don't know anyone who has ever been in jail at the moment except for a night in the drunk tank . I knew two people who spent three or four months in jail for breaking into a safe with a curling rock . We also have nationwide legal pot and free medical coverage , less covid and more taxes . So it all balances out and I prefer Canada because it leans more toward socialism and not communism.

[@cudatom9290]

I think this is a small point in the big difference between the people of Germany and USA. German People tend to be more honest and law abiding in general. USA has a much larger segment of people that in varying degrees seem to think that lying, cheating, manipulating and in general taking advantage of other people is somehow their right.

[@twintwo1429]

Don't mistake scared germans for good germans. There is a difference when a dictatorship hasn't been gone very long.

[@DaKidd62]

Do you have an example of this segment of people in America? I actually see this in a number of specific groups. But I’m interested to know where you see such leanings.

[@samiyahm.3471]

I learned so much about German prisons.And I live in Germany😂

[@christianetanzler4611]

Me too ;-)

[@SusanBassi]

If you are relying on Jeff Rosen to educate you, you would be better off remaining uneducated.

[@biggsdarklighter0473]

@@SusanBassi well, I kinda see your point (better no Information than from an unreliable source) but I disagree. Even a blind chicken finds a corn once in a while. While of course you shouldn't rely on one source, and always confirm your Information with at least a second source, one shouldn't need to discredit a less reliable news source.

[@TK-3613]

Dito

[@parkjimin-standkb-62]

Same;-;

[@mrsbuglp]

I think the main difference is the mindset in those two countries of what a prison is supposed to do. In the US I feel like the main goal is to punish, where as here in germany prisons are there to correct an individuums behaviour and prepare her/him for their return to society rather than punishing. The individuums environment is often a huge part of why they comitted the crime in the first place so those classes are there to help overcome those experiences and set people to a path for a brighter future with no crime .

[@lastkayleeuw6706]

Bug LP So true!

[@Bring-back-gk250mlBlogspot]

Sorry, while your point is well thought out, the main goal of US prisons is to make a profit. As long as unchecked capitalism is allowed in healthcare, education and "justice" we Americans are pretty much screwed from womb to tomb.

[@xamalion7334]

That's absolutely true. I once saw a documentation about american prisons. It's a business and has nothing to do with the people inside. The most weird thing is, that american prisons have to be full all the time, so the companies involved make their money. That's totally crazy. Here in Germany we control that as few as necessary are imprisoned, because the prisons are run by the government and are paid by taxes, so every working person is indirectly paying for the ones in our prisons.

[@benjaminfacouchere2395]

I haven't watched the talk, but I'm an Austrian (our prison system as well as that of the Scandinavian countries) is basically the same - we've also recently been gifted with a designer prison where the inmates are called guests... This nice prison, resocialization programs that is the conviction that you will become a valuable part of our society (again?!) only works under a few constraints that the host society has to fulfill: -The prisoners are actually part of the host society: 1) With the opening of the borders due to Schengen (which should actually not have happened, but that's another story), Western Europe has been flooded with East European organized criminal bands, be it the Mafia, be it the Gypsies for whom the slack jurisdiction and wellness-resort like prisons (no joking) is a strong pull factor. 2) With Arab clans following their own rules (state in the state). -Resocialization for non resocializable persons: There hasn't been but one case where convicted child rapist and murderers have been given a positive outlook and let loose on society again, commiting their next crimes. Afterwards everybody's always shocked how he could have been let out of the prison. -Illegal third world immigration under the pretext of asylum. "Honor killings" (what a joke that term is) have become a big thing, i.e in those parts of the world it's absolutely common to mutilate/kill women if she's not wearing a hijab, meets with a non muslim, the man thinks she cheats... -In recent years there has been coined a euphemism for this imported loss of respect for our (western) rules of society it's called "brutalization of society". If you have any special question I can link you to references, but I'm afraid most of them will be in German.

[@jochentram9301]

Yes. Even murderers have a chance at parole, and everyone else will be released at some point. It is only sensible to do our best to ensure that people leaving prison are able to reconnect with normal, civilian life, find a place to live, a job, all of that. The trope of the newly released prisoner who has no choice but to turn back to crime is based on real life, after all. It helps to have a mostly functional mental health system; this allows segregating people with mental disorders into treatment facitlities, which may be able to help them. It also gets those people out of the general prison population, making re-socialisation easier. It also helps to have treatment options for addiction right there in prison, although all German prisons still have a fairly healthy black market in drugs. It's not all puppies and rainbows, of course. Nothing built by fallible humans ever is.

[@bloodhunter642]

America has to learn sooooooo many many many things.

[@clash3583]

nope

[@angelina8570]

CLash yes hun. America is a joke

[@andyforsythe2565]

CLash. I'm afraid so. Or you will go to jail.

[@vorname1485]

They are not going to learn it the easy way as it currently seems.

[@bloodhunter642]

@@vorname1485 ye I think so too

[@eudaenomic]

Our problem in America is multifaceted. We have a media and politicians who tell people it's okay to be violent and they are entitled to wealth without earning. I have lived in Deutschland and the society is very different. There is complete respect there for property, people and the law. We have a community which says the law and police are wrong. Thank you for trying but we have to come to the realization the law, police and society have to be respected.

[@ddshiranui]

It seems to me like society in the US is drifting apart by the seams, but you can't just put the fault on one side. Political polarization is one example, of course, but you also can't expect people to respect police when some law enforcement officers abuse their authority to harass, injure or even kill citizens without good grounds, are then backed up by their "union" on principle and often let go Scot-free due to qualified immunity - a concept which also does not apply to police officers in Germany. The militarization and "warrior training" pitting "the force" against "civilians" (as if LEOs are soldiers?) surely also do not contribute to healthy interaction with communities. Add to that the increased stress for officers as a cause of working too many hours and having to navigate an environment where everyone can pull a gun on them at any moment, and you have a recipe for trauma and disaster. Departments will differ, obviously, but the bad apples that exist seem to get coddled too much and keep generating headlines that make people more and more distrustful of their own peace officers. Not to mention stuff like civil forfeiture or scandals like RAMPART. In the end, respect often has to be earned, it cannot simply be demanded.

[@odn7769]

German here. Doesnt want do be disillusinal: Yes, standards here are way more human than in US-Prisons. But this prison he showed here is NOT THE STANDARD. Its although not typical, to be a "Freigänger" who can go out. Thats a privilege, prisoners can earned under some circumstances. They although cant walk away in prison free. Typical in most prisons is a 1hour per day time, to go out in the yard. Sometimes its the own possibility to see other inmates. Etc Etc.

[@dra1nwat3r]

but they still get treated like human beings

[@o0blubblub0o]

yeah i've once talked with somebody, who spent 6 months in a german prision he said he didn't see a tree once and alsmost cried when he saw one again

[@AnanasElite]

blub blubbedi WTF? Thats definitely not true

[@o0blubblub0o]

@@AnanasElite did you talk to him or did i?

[@AnanasElite]

blub blubbedi Well then he lied

[@NoctLightCloud]

I love my German friends! They have traits that make me really want to stick to them and maintain the friendship. Sometimes when I complain about something, they will NOT immediately side with me. They will instead listen to my story, give the situation a benefit of doubt, tell me I might be missunderstanding, give me positive advice, and separate emotions from rational thought. I'd sometimes get annoyed, like "why do they side AGAINST me?", when in fact, they just want to be fair and correct. Just because I'm their friend doesnt mean that they should judge in bias and omit their objective standpoint. Amazing!! This also means that they're less prone to talk behind your back, to lie to you, to be sly/envy/anjoyed at you without you noticing. They will tell you if something urks them. I love that!! Too much spoiling. Greetings from Austria~

[@alanduval4255]

I'm not German*, I tend to do that, I have few friends :-( *I'm one-quarter German and with relatives there, but I have spent less than a week there in my life, and am only learning to speak it now (I'm 47).

[@Sonderbarr]

@@alanduval4255 Same here! I need to get me another dog...or two

[@7shinta7]

Thanks for all the kind words, but... aren't our dear neighbors in the south even bolder when it comes to stating the truth? Dunno, I've been to Austria a couple of times and I don't feel like there's that much of a difference to Germany. ^^"

[@NoctLightCloud]

@@7shinta7 Even if you've been in Austria a couple of times, you wouldn't notice such differences during a visit. It's not superficial enough to be that easily noticed. Also, the typical Austrian would beat around the bush and try to keep the atmosphere as light-hearted and fun as possible. This might come off as slimy, slackish, heck even unprofessional to some Germans. And it doesn't really support the 'speak your mind' premise either. Based on my experience and observation, Germans (especially those in Northern Germany) are much bolder in stating the status quo and quickly moving forward. No tralala and Ausschmücken/Schönreden. (Why are we writing in English?😂)

[@parkjimin-standkb-62]

Wait but aren't Austrians very similar to Germans?

[@finnfinity9711]

Jeff Rosen: Germany has low crime rates. Corny Gangster Rappers: I'm gonna pretend I didn't see that.

[@alilweeb7684]

how one isolated event shapes a entire country demografic? do you know how many rapes happen in the US?

[@zakuro8532]

Deutschrap ist mir megapeinlich. Warum nur muss es zu meiner Jugend mainstream werden? ._.

[@onefaceman1066]

@@zakuro8532 echt wahr, unglaublich wie man sich damit identifizieren kann.

[@dietergoes5626]

@@zakuro8532 was ist daran peinlich?

[@zakuro8532]

@@dietergoes5626 Weißt du, keine Ahnung. Ich habe es vergessen, ich revidiere meine Meinung wegen Unwissenheit"Ignoranz. Solange keine Drogen veworben und Kriminalität und Unzucht verherrlicht wird ist mir das schweißegal. Und da ist ja der Grund.

[@TonYTamayo1071]

Truly Worth Sharing.

[@recration]

fun fact: in Germany prisoners won't get punished or sentenced any longer for escaping prison. Why? Because Germans say that that is an natural instinct of humans to escape. I love Germany.

[@Bobbyfreakii]

Tho, you can get punished for all damages to equipment or harm you do whilst breaking out. They also ask you to get back into prison, since the original sentence is probably not due :)

[@endlesssuffering3415]

so is killing but its still illegal

[@neuttum]

@@endlesssuffering3415 you are right. Killing is illegal. And escaping from prison isn't

[@noahluppe]

@@endlesssuffering3415 thats just the thing with "not interfering with other peoples rights" killing: violates the rights others have, escaping prison: doesn't

[@FailableGamer]

@Aldo Caprione How in the world does it interfere with someone the escapee has no connection to besides what happened in the past?

[@dcro9903]

“The degree of civilization in a society can be judged by entering its prisons.”― Fyodor Dostoevsky.

[@gmartins4393]

The point is there is less crime in a civilised country to start with. Not because the prisons are nice. Another left wing fallacy

[@dcro9903]

@@gmartins4393 Political ideology was not the point of this video.

[@jeromimovasquez9214]

Politics was not the point, I agree with that part. However it makes a huge difference in the federal prison systems here in America....I've been working at a federal prison for almost 20 years now.

[@coreyham3753]

@@jeromimovasquez9214 Interesting ... so what are your views and comments about this video and comparing German to US prisons and practices?

[@gmartins4393]

@@dcro9903 Politics is what drives all the policy and law making. Everything else is pie in the sky

[@Zoe-ut6jr]

I live in Germany and it's very funny to see that this prison looks so much nicer then my school

[@FriedrichHerschel]

It's a new build prison. It represents what Germany thinks a prison should look like today. New build schools and universities also look different today.

[@jazzx251]

So, if you don't do your homework, your stay in detention at your school is worse than if you had to serve it in that prison?

[@tinchentinchen2079]

New built schools??? Where?

[@Zoe-ut6jr]

That is probably true. My post was actually more of a joke.

[@Zoe-ut6jr]

Mai Nem i was talking about the way they prison looks not how it is to actually be there

[@jha6783]

Thank you Mr. Rosen. It was a very sensitive lecture.

[@MyDuckSaysFucc]

I think a lot of people in the USA view prison as punishment and not rehabilitation. Emotional reactions towards violent crime are understandable but at a certain point the system needs to do things logically - a person who’s been abused/neglected through childhood, becomes a criminal, and repeats ends up in prison is not getting better. You can’t fix these type of people with punishment.

[@svr5423]

Prison is a tool to prevent people from committing crimes. First, because they are behind bars and unable to do so, second, as a deterrence. Many people are happy to commit crimes, but when they have to pay for that in freedom, they may change their priorities.

[@sonny6077]

Agreed. 85% of the males in Prison grew up without a father. It's about guidance.

[@ashleyenvy6320]

Prisons in the US is a business they get 60,000 dollars per inmate and don't invest the same amount on them.

[@huber2704]

@@mqbitsko25 😀you must be a communist: either in the present or a past life. Lol.

[@huber2704]

@@mqbitsko25 Except you could not be a jailor in Xinjiang - coz they have reformative training centres; not jails.

[@pavelsanda3149]

I was camping in Berlin some years ago and a criminal was managing the camp-site as an alternative punishment. He was actually nicer than most camp-site managers. :)

[@Hamsterdam91]

Well, if they got managing a camp-site as an alternative punishment he probably did a very minor crime like vandalism, shoplifting or possession of drugs

[@PekkaSaauri]

@@Hamsterdam91 you dont get pirson for those crimes unless the possession of drugs is large enjough to be classified as intent to distribute

[@zabzab6128]

Well statistically... Countries with no death penalties have less murder/criminality than other countries.

[@robertbrandywine]

@Eldar Franke Murder is "wrongful killing". About 75 per cent of people in most countries do not feel that death penalty is wrongful killing. Abolition of the death penalty has always had to be imposed from the top down because most people want it.

[@lamborger]

That's because the places with worse crime need a death penalty to keep crime from getting worse. The US actually abolished our death penalty for four years and the murder rate went through the roof. *Certain people* had nothing to deter them from break-ins, murders, gang activity, etc.

[@robertbrandywine]

@@lamborger Further, we used to let murderers out after as little as seven years and they went on to repeat murder. Putting them in prison for a minimum of 30 years (and often 40) has made a great deal of difference.

[@MrGerdbrecht]

Poor Robert, im not interested in your feelings ( feel that death penalty is wrongful killing ). Im interested in logic and what is right.

[@MrGerdbrecht]

So poor, ever thought about that it was the 7 yrs in your precious prisons that did not cure the murderer. No your prisons just make it worse. No resocialazation, no future, no job. What exactly do you expect from the imprisonment after the imprisonment? I dont expect them to be better persons, i expect them to be even worse thx to your correctional facilitiy jokes.

[@urbannpa]

Prisons are big business in America. A cash cow owned and supported by politicians. I was stationed in Nuremberg Germany, 1980-1985, loved the people and the food.

[@MIRONWORKER]

REHABILITATION DOES WORK,PEOPLE CAN CHANGE AND BE BETTER PRODUCTIVE CITIZENS

[@teblogger8475]

Yeah, they become more sophisticated criminals.

[@ONOhannah]

@@teblogger8475 In the usa yes.

[@robertbrandywine]

Real rehabilitation would be too expensive for the people to support it, which is why we don't have it. Most criminals just age out of that behavior while in prison.

[@robertbrandywine]

@Conor Hampton Only 9% of prisoners are privately held. This canard must be repeated in every Left-wing outlet in the U.S. We will be never able to know who is right about rehabilitation, but I feel confident it would be very expensive to do properly and the public won't stand for it and Communist countries have never shown any success in doing it either.

[@JimCampbell777]

I think it's clear that by the QUANTITY of people in USA prisons, that most of these people don't need rehabilitation. They shouldn't be there to begin with.

[@DoctorShroom]

Some of these jail cells actually look better than my college dorm room.

[@dukeofworcestershire7042]

Oh they sure do. Luckily, we dont have to pay a tuition to go to university in Germany, so we can afford a little bit better dorms.

[@DaDunge]

Prisons cells and why should they be worse? I mean we need to built prison cells anyway is there any advantage to not building them as well as we can?

[@MaxMustermann-ze1iv]

@@DaDunge i guess money plays a role in there

[@Raykibb1]

DoctorShroom: Shoot, at LSU my freshman year, 1980, students still lived in dorm rooms in the stadium with no air conditioning.

[@DaDunge]

@@MaxMustermann-ze1iv Not really, college dorm rooms weren't built to be bad, they became bad because they're old.

[@ichtragemantel8376]

Im asking me like what would he say if a young boy from Vietnam go to him and says "Im not forgiving you for what you people did to my relevants and country".

[@jooplin]

I mean not forgiving is just self torture, also there is noone to forgive, because the people responsible are already dead.

[@TheMygoran]

He is also consumed by hate. Understandable hate, i am sure his parents and grandparents told him a lot about what happened and had a lot of cruel details to share. He would do himself a favor to let it rest. he can't change the past, neither can germans who live nowadays and are in no way responsible for something that happened before they were even born.

[@TonYTamayo1071]

ENLIGHTENING

[@chriscon907]

Germany built up a social market economy after world war two to avoid socioeconomic conflicts and hate. There is for sure also an aspect of human dignity

[@lunafringe10]

the word social can be found on a lot of law books in Germany, but the reality is so different,

[@HooyahPeacock]

More like they built it to pay back their fine for ww2 which I believe final payment was in 2008

[@Julia-lk8jn]

They had quite a lot of help from Gastarbeitern. (immigrants coming to work and earn money in Germany for a few years or decades.)

[@nothingisitchingme5874]

@@Julia-lk8jn basically Mexicans

[@Eli-pm1pi]

I'm German and I actually learned a lot about the prisons in Germany by this talk. I knew some stuff, but definitely not to this extent. Looks like Germans do some things right and it's not all that bad as we Germans want to make it look like. Though thriving for a better world constantly is a good thing, we maybe should also take time to appreciate the improvement we have already achieved.

[@Nordlicht05]

Often an outside view brings a better light on things.

[@Super-Godzilla99]

i´am german too. we want too make it look bad because we are perfectionalists, we allways see what can be improved, and we allways want too improve. germans allways want to do better, and our brains allways want to do better then yesterday. thats just our culture, and thats why other countrys fears us so much till this day, because they don´t want to understand this trait. most of us want to to better everyday. thats why others think we are rude sometimes, but we aren´t we just thruth too ourselfs. it´s just straitforward nothing more, not all of us are so but most of germans. if you question us you will be given an answer. Because why ask a question if you don´t want an answer, makes no sence. it is really simple. as an german i don´t understand why an answer can be rude if it´s an answer to the question asks. it is rude to ask a question and don´t want an answer. of course most of the time it depends on how you ask a question. thats why writing is very difficult because nowone can see how it is meant. you see i want too say it too clear thats why this is so long sry for that haha.

[@RobertMJohnson]

@@Super-Godzilla99 seems that isn't permeating the culture of your automobile manufacturers. your cars aren't reliable. and it's extremely disappointing

[@nils895]

@@RobertMJohnson I do agree. However, this problem mostly occurs in newer models, since a lot of manufacturing has been moved to other countries and some very poor decisions have been made in management. Take the old Mercedes models for example, most of them are probably still running somewhere in Africa right now. For pure reliability nowadays, I'd probably go for a Toyota.

[@andreaslahmberg5641]

Appreciating what we have could.... you know..... make us feel proud.... and once we feel proud, we would NOT be as eager and willing to donate our Lebensraum to the rest of the species our MSM commonly call refugees and Fachkräfte. Feeling proud would also lover the fanatic Schuldkult that our MSM and Politicians and Educators and Artists instilled into us since generations from the earliest childhood.

[@PaimasCPGaming]

I could listen to him for hours ... such a calm voice

[@christinabernat6709]

Absolutely agree. BEAUTIFUL Manner of speaking - soooo calm yet not monotone, and keeps you focused and interested from start to finish.

[@maxball505]

This man has a calming voice.

[@wadeguidry6675]

Moral of the story : get locked up in Germany and you will live in a lifestyle that's better than being free for most people in the USA. Road trip, anyone?

[@eldritchgod4308]

Wade Guidry wanna know how long „life time“ in German prison is? 25 years

[@SennaHawx]

@@eldritchgod4308 Minimum of 15 years in single case murder. After 15 years the sentence can be fought against *for the first time* after being given out. Since fighting against such severe sentences really needs good reasons behind it and takes time...you can be sure that the life-time sentence atleast lasts 16 years. If the court doesn't think you have a case by going against the length of the sentence, you remain in prison. In several cases of murder against you, you don't get out, because simply fighting against one of the sentences has no effect on the rest of them. So no. Life time pirison sentences are not 25 years. They are with no chance of fighting against the sentence, atleast 15 years. And commonly not shorter than 25 years.

[@renataostertag6051]

Freedom is the greatest good though ! I'd never want to be locked up even if the prison had bars made of pure gold, the food were cooked in 5-star hotels, etc., etc.

[@marcomaihofer]

What you wanna mention???

[@Josh-Si]

Being free is even better, so why be a criminal if you are also able to spread love and joy instead of violence?!

[@ameliemileva6459]

I'm a german law student and I also visit American Law lectures. In German we call "constitutional state" "Rechtsstaat" which means in direct translation "State of rights". Per definition " State, which implements the applicable law in all areas and puts the law under the control of independent courts". To me, the USA is a democracy, but it's far from being what I would call a "Rechtsstaat". The election and appointment of members of the surpreme court is merely an act of political chess, the death penalty is against the human rights and a horrible, medival way of dealing with humans. Let alone the topic addressed in this video. There is so much going wrong in the USA when it comes to right, health and socialsystem, it's a miracle the United States count as a first world country.

[@VinVinzens]

very nice! Danke.

[@ameliemileva6459]

***** And you just outed yourself as an american Trump Fanboy :)

[@eragonshurtugal4239]

well wichout africa where wouldnt be the human species so not that good of an argument

[@erascostudent2293]

Yes, USA might have been an early example for other countries, problem is if the children start to grow smarter than the parent.... There are two things which are vital for a rule of law: 1. The state must have sufficient strenght and legitimacy to enforce the rule of law 2. The state must be watched so that it follows the law itself. Concerning human rights, the US is a little behind on the second point.

[@erascostudent2293]

RedJoker In Germany its similar though. There are two "amateur judges" who may, if they feel like it, overrule the sentence of the judge.

[@-someOnes-]

It's not the completely right translation for article 1 of our constitution. It is: Human dignity IS unimpeachable. It's not "shall", but "it". It's not a possibility or an appeal, but a fact!

[@itherius389]

In a legal text "shall" also refers to fact from which cannot be derogated. source: I'm a lawyer

[@rotschadel3574]

@@itherius389 Best source

[@ropeburn6684]

"shall" is the more accurate translation. Human dignity IS violable. It should not, but clearly is all around the world every day. To state otherwise is to suggest that a law instantly changes reality.

[@justatinyhalfling]

@@ropeburn6684 from the point of view of the German constitution, human dignity cannot be violated. People ignore it and do horrible crimes against it, but no crime diminishes a humans dignity. Nobody and no crime can take that away from you.

[@tobelstoker9992]

@@itherius389 The point here is imho that the german law is just diffrent. "Die menschliche Würde soll nicht verlezt werden" is imperativ, same as "shall" in english law. And "shall", "soll" in german couldn't be derogated in german law either. But the german constitution explicitly stresses that the unimpeachability of the human dignity IS above the Law. There is no legal or democratic way to change the first article of our constitution, it is literally unimpeachable in any way.

[@johndougherty8720]

European countries are very different from the US. The US is a great country, but we could do a lot to fix certain things. Germany is a nation that seems to focus on the population as a whole, as in whats best for everyone. Where in the US there is much more focus on "what the individual can do." More or less its up to you to figure things out on your own. Not an excuse, just my take on it.

[@rherna2601]

Everybody should go to Germany instead of the USA. That will be great.

[@hamadilawson4396]

@@rherna2601 Or we as Americans could learn from the German examples and improve America. MAGA wasn't great for all Americans.

[@Larsen1969]

You can't expect a person to "be" responsible if you don't "give them responsibility". They Rehab in prisons in Germany.

[@brianjones7660]

how do you get them to admit they need to repent and change their behavior? Thats Shaming...no way!

[@johnbowman3630]

@@brianjones7660 Lol, it's a favorite leftist fantasy dude. Always blame the system for producing the criminal, never the criminal themselves for committing criminal acts

[@jeromimovasquez9214]

We rehabilitate in America as well..... the inmates choose to keep breaking the law.....some of them actually learn and become a contributing citizen again. I worked in a federal prison for almost 20 years now

[@jeromimovasquez9214]

We also REHABILITATE INMATES in prisons (at least the federal ones like where I have worked 20 years) in the United States

[@Larsen1969]

@@jeromimovasquez9214 that's the point though. Because obviously some Federal Prisons are privately owned there's "no consistency". It's Potluck to be at a prison which re-trains. Then those that don't, let out failures into society.

[@mast6209]

prison escape by itself isnt a crime in germany btw.

[@AreroniumPlaysL]

Ma St because humans seek freedom

[@MikeKojoteStone]

That's a bit of a myth with only the tiniest of truth in it. You won't get additional prison time for trying to escape from prison alone, provided you do so without hurting anyone or damaging anything. There won't be another trial, but you will still serve your sentence as is. Without parole in that case. Priviliges will also be revoked. So, it may not be a crime in itself, but you gain nothing by doing so, because you're still a wanted criminal for the other thing you did that got you there.

[@mast6209]

prison escape isnt a crime... show me the § where it says that you get an extra sentence for escaping..

[@Fabian.H]

The legislature respects the freedom impulse that is inherent in every human. It is not a punishable behavior to want to regain freedom.

[@roselightz_3027]

Storm Lead no it isn't you will be brought back to prison, but you won't get an extra sentence

[@r0tb3rt]

Interesting video, but as a german I can tell you that Heidering does not reflect the whole system. First of all, the employment rate of prison staff is dropping on a yearly basis. In the area of Brandenburg alone prison staff are working an average of 6 Month and being 6 month off duty because of sickness. The reason is pretty simple, its stress. And not all prisons are as modern as Heidering. Yes we do have prisons where the inmates have internet in their cells, (You can have email and access to certain social services sites. No Social Media or anything similar) but most of the prisons are pretty old. For example Tegel and Moabit. (Moabit is also located in Berlin) The german prison system is NOT as it is shown above. Greetings from a former inmate.

[@Rouwh]

he's talking about what he saw himself

[@alexavasquez1992]

Vouch he's trying to put across what he saw himself as representative of the German system

[@davalyzz]

at first, i don't think the video should be criticizes for being inaccurate. it was made to inspire a change of thought on the u.s. prison system. i believe the approach here is to show the chocolate side (as we say in germany, for only showing the best side of something) of the german prison system. it's not necessarily bad, since it serves the cause. jeff rosen wanted to make a point about the flaws regarding the u.s. prison system...and you can be sure, that germany wanted to show off, when they gave the u.s. officials the "prison tour". so that's just the observations of a single person, that was allowed to see one prison, which was recently built. still - i'd much rather being imprisoned in germany than in any u.s. prison. of course the german system has massive flaws and is no bed of roses for the inmates, as for the guard staff. i know this for a fact, since my uncle was a prison guard, who struggled intensely. the things he has heard and seen there were simply too much to bare, even when he switched to guarding the sick ward. he eventually had to give up his job, since it made him mentally ill. i believe we're doing a lot of things better here regarding the prison system and especially in terms of rehabilitation of ex cons. there's not that intense kind of stigma, which an ex prisoner is suffering in the u.s., like having to tell people on job applications, that you were once imprisoned. this is a huge flaw in my point of view, given the sheer percentage of arrests by mr. rosen. also one big difference i see: generally speaking, the people incarcerated in germany are serving time, to think about what they did wrong and are encouraged to be a part of society again and in the end that is what most people desperately want, after serving their sentence. even while serving they are being prepared for the life after prison, which gives a lot of hope, dignity and meaning back to the people imprisoned.

[@fritz6780]

@@gandolfthewhite Maybe

[@r0tb3rt]

@@alexavasquez1992 visiting a prestige object doesn´t reflect the whole system and you cant really draw conclusion about a prison system as a whole from visiting one of the newest one so I am not really sure you can learn an accurate lesson from that visit alone.

[@planthybrid93]

This is a very precious speach. Maybe I can find peace now. Thank you

[@danielgo.3614]

As a German I want to thank you, Mr. Rosen, for this interesting an emotional impulse you gave to the audience. To keep the balance while talking about the KZ was I guess pretty hard. I know, it is not done to say "I am Sorry". Maybe you can forgive one day my grandparents for what they did to yours. Maybe you can't. And you know what? I would understand. I try to pray every single day in my life that God forgives me and that I can forgive. This really makes me free.

[@leov.6424]

it's not not your fault.

[@firebubble5911]

As a collective we should try to hinder anything like that from happening again

[@skeletonwar4445]

@@firebubble5911 Yes. That's exactly why we're taught so much about WWII in school.

[@1latrommI]

Stop saying sorry for something you had no influence whatsoever in. It is not healthy. Understanding history is a good thing, but this perpetrator mentality has to stop.

[@derwolf3006]

@@1latrommI You guys should understand we aint saing sorry for our past... Were just going to do it again and we know that exactly so sorry

[@effhorst]

"The world might be broken, but it can be repaired, because we are all created with human dignity". Any world leaders reading this??

[@jeromimovasquez9214]

I wish!!!!

[@naau_2091]

Ah yes a balcony in prisons, you can't miss getting frische luft you know😂😂

[@goodvibesyolo]

Frische Luft is very important for your Gesundheit after all 😂

[@eidechsentyp1236]

But no Zugluft! That causes instant death!

[@firebubble5911]

That Denglisch is just the best

[@D_in0s]

Oh my god imagine not having windows you can kipp! You would die from the much luft you get when opening the fenster for a little lüften!

[@spoontssuzy649]

No matter how cold it may be outside, Germans will open the windows to prevent Sauerstoffmangel.

[@Brissieskater1]

Jeff Rosen has a very nice speaking voice.

[@ochgottnochma]

Private owned prisons: longer imprisonment = more $$$. Simple capitalism

[@grayscribe2125]

Paid by taxes. Don't forget that little detail.

[@ccwd9012]

The prison doesn't decide how long you go to prison

[@optiquenz]

Kesho 324 Every heard about the prison lobby?

[@fatdad64able]

ochgottnochma : Not that I am a communist, but some institutions should never be privatized. Like jails, public transportation and many other things. Most of the times all this privatization of "businesses" formerly run by governement, or communities, most of the time these companies are here to "milk the cow" as fast as they can. They reduce income of their employees, run everything sub standard ( or make it unaffordably expensive) and then jump ship to milk the next cow. I think if you measure public transportation with current standards, you will never end the balance with surplus. But in the long run communities will be better off if they keep it under their control. Same with prisons.

[@gcb4763]

The private prison has a vested interest in keeping prisoners inside. A way to do this is to torment the prisoner into rebellion.

[@larnregis]

24:43 what an inappropriate moment to laugh. shame on this person in the audience.

[@rmamon2554]

The same as I thought watching this video.

[@christinabernat6709]

Jeez, we have no idea of WHY this person laughed - so don't judge it as horrible so quickly.

[@lucaswallo8127]

doesnt matter

[@lucaswallo8127]

@@christinabernat6709 yeah

[@HighFlyer96]

It sounds like from a distance, as if it were people outside the hall, walking by an open door.

[@sirsidfosse1313]

"America is the only nation in history which miraculously has gone directly from barbarism to degeneration without the usual interval of civilization." -Clemenceau

[@uzefulvideos3440]

nice quote :)

[@georgerusso9594]

"The only very marked difference between the average civilized man and the average savage is that the one is gilded and the other is painted." - Mark Twain's Notebook "Civilization is a limitless multiplication of unnecessary necessities." - More Maxims of Mark, Johnson, 1927 "A civilization is born stoic and dies epicurean" Will Durant

[@sirsidfosse1313]

Excellent, Thanks.

[@leojanuszewski1019]

As a Frenchman, Clemenceau has zero moral authority to lecture on "degeneracy."

[@leojanuszewski1019]

The French "Resistance": "Serve the Nazis our worst wine!"

[@lynnallen1315]

As a battle-hardened, not yet 20 year-old, field promoted U. S. Army sergeant, my dad was one of the liberators of Bergen Belsen. He would be appalled by the conditions of Texas prisons.

[@Iron-Bridge]

Having encountered educated German people over the years, I think they do a lot of things right. Multilingual, great work ethic, generally interesting personalities.

[@RobertMJohnson]

and still can't make a reliable automobile.

[@spoontssuzy649]

I'm not so sure about that great work ethic. I used to work in an office in Germany. Twice a week this office would close at noon so that the employees could concentrate on paper work for the rest of the day. But in fact they hardly did any work at all once the doors were closed. I really enjoyed working in this office.

[@googlefashists4986]

Sense of humor?

[@skipfricius5743]

@@spoontssuzy649 Looking busy as encouraged in the USA is very different from working hard.

[@rodabanane]

​@@RobertMJohnson wait what? :D

[@benebr]

I was born in germany but live in the states for 7 years and moved back to germany. I noticed that germany functions much better and it’s an honest country. At first I wanted to move back but it didn’t take long to see that the Country i’m living in is much better and i’m happy that I stated in germany:)

[@GK-op4oc]

"and it’s an honest country" The term is "high trust". This occurs in ethnically homogenous countries . No amount of racial programming can teach Blacks that they are White

[@markescartin6613]

Yeah Maybe? I knew an authentic German girl who was brought to the U.S. (Wisconsin)by her parents; Then disaster struck her father got the bright idea to move back to Germany when she was about 14 shortly afterwards her father died! Living in Germany you might as well be living on the moon even if you have roots in that culture. Anyways she came back to Chicago (KoKomo,Indiana) when at 23 she discovered her permanent resident card was still valid; she even willingly endured the flight back home on Lufthansa!

[@GK-op4oc]

@@markescartin6613 You describe an immigrant experience. Is it impossible for people in the USA to emigrate ? In the girl's case, returning to Germany is repatriation

[@sonjagatto9981]

A good decision! LG aus Canada...missing my homeland every day for many years! 💔🌍💚💖👍

[@glennwatson3313]

We don't really miss having you here.

[@michaausleipzig]

I think the reason why we treat our prisoners the way we do is exactly because we have this past. He wonders how it can be that we have changed so quickly from Holocaust to prisons like that. It's beacause we have learned that lesson. And we learned it the hard way. And it actually goes "human dignity is inviolable". It's "is" not "shall be". It is expressed as a matter of fact, not as a wish or a hope. And while I'm usually not the type who feels pride about where he happened to be born, this one phrase does make me proud to be german.

[@svensvenska]

Well said

[@leojanuszewski1019]

New Years in Cologne---that was some inviolable human dignity right there.

[@TengriLethos79]

+Kaptain Kid Lack of personal responsibility may be *one* reason, but other reasons are likely racism, poverty, a poor infrastructure, too expensive education system, which is thus not available to poorer sections of the population. Racism is a general human problem that, in my opinion, comes from ignorance, intolerance and fear of the stranger.

[@dionysg205]

The verb shall is never used to express hope or a wish. From the Oxford learners Dictionaries " shall ... 3 (old-fashioned or formal) used to show that you are determined, or to give an order or instruction". So, it is used as more authoritative than -is- and gives emphasis to the obligations of the state. According to the english translation of the german constitution published by the Deutscher Bundestag "Basic Law for the Federal Republic of Germany" the right wording is "Human dignity shall be inviolable". Not intended to discredit or be critical to the rest of your comment. Just to clarify that to an english speaker the word shall used in formal documents expresses certainty.

[@JonathanShSl]

i love the german idea and significance of ‘würde’ /dignity (read “eine art zu leben - über die vielfalt menschlicher würde” by peter bieri for a really good read on würde)

[@chheinrich8486]

For anyone that wants or has to start a new live in another country and has the choice between the US or germany, you should choose germany