Teenager Drives Into Building to Murder Boyfriend and Passenger | Mackenzie Shirilla Case Analysis

[@kirkmaxwellofficial]

If you’re wondering how she survived and they didn’t. I work in crash testing for a major car company. The driver’s seat is by far the safest in every car that’s made because you plan for the average crash, since there is always a driver in the car, they are planned for the most.

[@jesseemullen]

I'm amazed that she isn't a vegetable though. Survival I can believe, but that she's still "functional" (speaking very loosely here) is wild.

[@mioumioutoolate]

What i honestly NEVER get in these cases is how on earth all accountability is placed in the hands of a fucking child (17y.o.) and nobody investigates what happened age 0 to 17 to create what this person did age 17. I honestly don’t understand how a person can be held accountable to this extent without any questioning of parental responsibility. If the child’s rights were violated in some way by the caregiver(s) who are legally responsible for her/him (cf ACE studies, backgrounds & childhoods of criminals..), how in earth would the child have the possibility of exercising their rights (they can’t, they’re a child…) or have any clarity with regards to this matter. Yes, she looks like a spoiled, entitled little brat. My question is: what are the family secrets? Is Mackenzie paying for them with life in prison? Note: I am not assuming anything. I am speculating on possibilities and simply wondering how on earth it is possible to not question these things in the case of a freakin 17-19y.o. I would question them in the case of 50 year-old! Not to say a 50 y.o should not be held accountable for his acts. But really- The research on all of this is there. Are we going to continue to support the passing on of toxicity in family systems? And put our heads eternally in the sand?

[@kirkmaxwellofficial]

@@jesseemullen she got extra lucky because the Toyota Corolla is a top 5 safest small car

[@DeRockMedia]

@@kirkmaxwellofficial 2018 Toyota Camry actually, i have a 17 Camry so looks like im safe

[@kirkmaxwellofficial]

@@DeRockMedia ah yeah you're right, I'm less sure about the Camry although it's probably pretty damn safe since Toyota is the number one safest car company at the moment

[@Lexx815]

I got chills when he said “Few killers are as dangerous as those willing to die to commit homicide” at 13:39.

[@ARKdeEREH]

If kamikaze pilots are ever needed then she has great work experience in preparation for that job.

[@XxxX-wx3er]

Suicide homicides happen all the time.

[@jesseemullen]

That's what's haunted me the most about this case tbh. It's beyond my level of comprehension.

[@ErinJeanette]

Seriously that's horrifying. Reminds me of this girl in high school who was driving fast and wanted to die so she counted to three and just hit someone head on pulling into the other lane and killed that person and not herself. That was in the early 2000s.

[@hwall7864]

I got chills when he said tik tok 😅

[@cgsweat]

Psychologically she seems like a psychopath. But the biggest mystery to me is how she didn't also die in that crash...

[@willthebeast8002]

It's a fact that A-Holes usually survive total wrecks they cause..

[@beareeves4923]

Was she wearing a seat belt and the passengers were not?

[@kuroneko7022]

Devils always survive. Same with drunk drivers - they crash into a car and kill an entire family but only come out a concussion or bruises. They live to drink and drive and injure and kill again!

[@chantalsmissingselfawarene7655]

She didn’t brace for impact

[@francelinamommyof3]

I have seen (in my own personal life) at least 3 drivers make it after everyone in the car gets either ejected out or dead. Mostly dead..💔 The driver always do make it with only a few broken bones. Sad but true. 🤔

[@abaddon4823]

I’ve listened to Dr Grande for years. Can’t believe he’s doing this story, it happened in my town. This girl assaulted another girl and gave her brain damage and was never held accountable for it.

[@kcsunshine6122]

Really? What's the story on that? Just curious...

[@justsayin47]

I’m sure this girl assaulted and did a lot of other shady stuff in the hood and got away with it. Please share more details. I have witnessed and spotted similar people in other countries

[@ЕкатеринаИванова-ы9я8ъ]

i've read in the comments under another video of this case that there is information that she also was a "mean girl" in school. Probably there is much more disturbing stuff that she has done.

[@SemperUbi_SubUbi]

I'm also from the area, and it's so sad and appalling on so many levels.

[@JP-qx2wb]

Omg !!

[@cosmicmoonpie1857]

this was my hometown. they were both really nice boys. i went to the vigil last year. i worked with Davion and we even said that if Davion died young, we lost all hope for the world 😭 because he truly was an upstanding gentleman. heartbreaking.

[@Walter_Sobchak_43]

DId you know her? Could you see her doing this intentionally?

[@Diamonddavej]

@@Walter_Sobchak_43 it's a cover up. Dominic Russo's mother is a lawyer and county prosecutor. She ran for judge a few years ago in same the County MacKenzie was tried, but inconvenient facts emerged, that Christine was given a pot smoking citation in the early 1990s (though expunged) and she had to call the cops to her property in the early 2000s, to arrest her angry brother who accused her of not sharing profits from his pot growing business. She failed to be selected as a judge over these revelations. So this was in fact a drug driving related accident. Makenzie, Domic and Davon drove into the quite industrial estate to smoke pot and/or possibly take magic mushrooms, they stopped the car for about 10 minutes, we know this from the CCTV, the time they entered the industrial estate and when they slammed into the wall. A weighing scales and some magic mushrooms were found in MacKenzie's coat pocket after the accident. This drug driving accident, however was covered up as it would reflect bad on Christine Russo, and people might ask questions again about her bother's pot farm. Christine might still want to be a judge in future. Also, on the last day of the trial, a surprise witness was called, none other than Dominic's pot growing uncle, a convicted felon, who claimed he overheard a phone call Dominic recieved from MacKenzie, in which she warned him she was going to crash the car with him in it. Who, I wonder, supplied the pot and shooms? I have no idea, I know no one who would supply drugs, oh wait...

[@PlanXV]

​@Walter_Sobchak_43 no she was in the car with 2 others no one else witnessed the crash except a cctv camera

[@davidfoss4836]

"they were both really nice boys"; Yeah, right.

[@cosmicmoonpie1857]

@ don't be talking like that with a baby on your back, bro. don't talk about what you don't know. worthless comment

[@apaulotroughtzmantz2914]

Something tells me that this is the first time she’s faced consequences for anything she’s done

[@Mikeb8134]

Yes, reminds me of Trump. I hope we can get a crying court video of him too!

[@danieljoseph4625]

@@Mikeb8134 A teenage girl in Strongsville, Ohio who was high on weed and mushrooms, slamming her car into a brick building to kill her boyfriend, friend, and possibly herself, reminds me of Trump too. 🤪

[@JTNugget]

@@Mikeb8134 Pathetic Trump Derangement Syndrome. Imagine cheering on his sham indictments while not giving a shit that we have ex presidents who have gotten away with crimes against humanity.

[@CityBohoGirl]

Her and that pos who murdered that new bride leaving her wedding in a golf cart 😞 while she was plastered. She’s a real piece of work. The entitlement daddy had given her. 🤮

[@jessicaanderson3379]

​@Mikeb8134 not the place to comment.. freak!!

[@dlc5166]

Thanks, Dr. Grande. You hit the nail on the head time and again in your analysis of Mackenzie Shirilla's behavior. Thinking she'd just have her driving privileges suspended shows a total lack of understanding as to the gravity of this situation and the loss of two lives.

[@mrazik131]

Yes she is in shock she is going to prison or jail…my point is her surprise!!!

[@ED-es2qv]

She'd never had consequences before, how can she know?

[@AbBc-w4q]

shes an example of how girls are raised and treated in general. They never really are expected to suffer consequences for poor behavior. She fully believed she go unscathed.

[@wholeshebang1]

@user-io8bm6gz5z - That's a *_generalization, a stereotype._* Many girls, through to their teens and early twenties *_are_* *held responsible, face consequences* of their *_actions,_* and *are disciplined* - as *_equally as boys are,_* or _more harshly._ It depends on their *parents,* and often school staff (within reason and legality, within schools).

[@TheMattTrakker]

@@wholeshebang1 You can look at sentencing as just one example of how women are generally treated less harshly.

[@TheMattTrakker]

How was she able to get a driver's license if she had a condition that caused her to randomly pass out?

[@HighlanderNorth1]

Well, there's that, but there's also the "mandatory life sentence"(with the possibility of parole in 15 years). Why even bother using terms like "mandatory", if it's legally meaningless?

[@ztkrx]

cause money’s, money… they don’t give a shit, just give them your money and off you go.

[@EverAppl14]

She was probably diagnosed after she already had her license and neither she or her parents thought to re-evaluate that situation, which isn't too surprising given everything else about this case, i.e. her parents let her drive when she shouldn't have been driving at all because she was clearly too emotionally unstable and immature and reckless for that responsibility, how was she doing so many drugs and in a weirdly abusive relationship dynamic if there was ever adequate parental involvement , etc.

[@expatannie6958]

I think the passing out diagnosis, if I heard correctly, was given in 2017, so long before the crash, and was probably just offered by the parents as an excuse -- but that wouldn't have applied in this case anyway: if she had passed out, then the pressure on the gas pedal would have let up and the car would have slowed down. Also, the guy in the passenger seat could have grabbed the wheel and at least tried to steer away from the building. That didn't happen here, obviously.

[@CoreLabb]

The judge mentioned that the Mother denied that the daughter had any medical conditions on the drivers license applications.

[@apolo2177]

FINALLY someone who talks about evidence and doesn't just focus on character assassination.

[@lindasimons691]

Her parents are real pieces of work. They acted immaturely and indifferent to the pain the victim's families were living with.

[@black.cake1]

I hope she doesnt have any siblings 😂

[@horstnietzsche1923]

As one would expect.

[@d.s.28]

For sure.

[@agricolaregs]

I imagine they were just struggling to even comprehend what she did. Not deliberately trying to be asshats…but how do come to terms with this. How? It’s a parent’s job to raise their children to be able to survive this work and to be a good and decent human. How to deal with being such a failure as a parent? I imagine many wouldn’t be able to endure that. Many might lash out, blame others, do anything to not admit such a colossal failure.

[@Walter_Sobchak_43]

@@agricolaregs hard disagree. If you followed the story, then you would know that she was a spoiled child her entire life. There were warning signs of her acting out before this that her parents ignored and rescued her from. This is what happens when you allow your child to be both precocious and coddled. When I saw and heard her mom's witness statement, I knew exactly where she got her "main-character syndrome" from.

[@niccrock12]

I like how Dr. Grande refers to TikTok as “the social media platform, ‘Tik Tok.’” Like there is this vibe of disdain and sarcasm but delivered with a professional tone as plausible deniability for not being condescending.

[@Wazupu]

He is simply setting up for viewers that come across this video in a hundred years.

[@Amanda-el9dx]

Right like ‘allegedly’ that’s what it’s called

[@lisaguineau149]

I appreciate how he emphasizes people’s double negatives.

[@Rellikan]

​@@Wazupu😂

[@lorimav]

Tik Tok like a timed bomb ready to explode.

[@D0B3RW0M4N]

She felt entitled to two people’s lives. Dangerous and I hope she never gets out.

[@laurenurban3942]

Who raised that girl?

[@j.p.gonzalez9218]

Tik tok generation

[@Avatar_of_Chairness]

Things like this are as old as sand, just different perimetres.

[@mulemule]

@@j.p.gonzalez9218 I've zero doubt that had it been filmed she would've posted it.

[@thedarknessunderneathpodca6366]

But Frank Russo, 61, the father of her boyfriend, Dominic Russo, 20, doesn’t support sending Shirilla to jail for life. “It’s horrible for everybody. Yeah, I lost my son, it’s harder on our family, but I don’t want the rest of her life ruined too. It isn’t going to make me feel any better,” he told NBC News Friday.

[@Silkysmooth-qk5nc]

We live in a society where people feel so entitled and are encouraged to act on their feelings and emotions.

[@evelynwaugh4053]

To a certain extent, some people do seem to emulate the worst elements of their culture. Using the Kim Kardashians of the world as a role model can only be a disaster.

[@jekw23]

Agreed, don’t know what happened to peoples sense of self restraint. You don’t have to react to everything that happens. It’s sad how so many people seem to show no control or accountability.

[@boosqueezy2418]

they think their feelings are the most important thing

[@daniellogansa8101]

Its called mental illness combined with a brain that isn’t fully developed. I imagine her childhood was fucked up, and her parents childhood before her, and on back and back. Throw drugs into the mix and the emotional stress of young “love” and im surprised this doesn’t happen more. Oh wait, people shoot up public places and decapitate people all the time in this country…

[@lorimav]

Yes, including to become a sex they are not just because they feel like they are other than their biologiy.

[@marlabaldwin7011]

If she had the condition her mother spoke of where she blacks out all of the sudden then she should have never been given a driver's license. This sounds like it was meant to be a murder/suicide. This is just so sad. I feel for the families of her victims.

[@ChristelVinot]

you could just not tell the drivers license place about the condition

[@chillywrinkle]

I love how you called out the word “literal”, when the judge meant “figurative”. That earned my subscription! 😂 The word “literally” is used by people that don’t even understand what it means.

[@iwaswrongabouteveryhthing]

literally

[@DaisyLee1963]

I feel for the random people who came upon that crash and called it in to 911. It's traumatizing to be driving down the road and come up on something like that, even if you don't know the crash victims. Happened to me once.

[@adayinforever]

I was in Florida on vacation in May and me and my family were the first people to drive up to a flipped car with a dude crawling out from underneath while everything in his car emptied out on to the street. He was fine tho. Very drunk but fine. That was my "Florida man" encounter.

[@flyingfig12]

thankfully he didn't drive into people@@adayinforever

[@leeevans302]

When I was a kid we drove past a real bad Motorcycle accident and the dude was just slumped over the median with one of his legs sitting on the ground about 10 feet away. That image is still burned into my brain even today. There were ppl there but they weren’t acting with much urgency so I assume he was DOA. I just felt so bad for his family. And for him, that random people had to see him like that

[@CastledarkDweller27]

@@leeevans302 I don’t think most people would have had those thoughts. I think you are a lovely kind sensitive person.👍🏼

[@miavos3610]

I will never forget the time we came across an overturned Rover on a national highway, a woman lying on her side in the middle of the road, another woman who arrived on the scene before us putting her hands behind the victim's head and when she took her hands out they were dripping with blood. I remember seeing the dead body's long, reddish, shiny hair moving in the breeze. It was eerie. The deceased turned out to be one of our country's best gymnasts. She was traveling alone. It happened in the early 70s.

[@dissidentfairy4264]

She sounds spoiled and unsupervised by her parents and it turned into deadly rage. I feel sorry for her victims and their families. 🧚‍♀

[@jasonking1284]

She has obviously never been challenged or reprimanded on anything before and felt like she can do whatever she likes.... including harming people....

[@rachaelb.]

She was raised in a lack of control environment it seems. You are spot on.

[@johnnylego807]

It’s far more than that. Such an understatement. This is an act of PURE EVIL

[@NicholasWolfwood-md7vm]

Lots of women are like this, it's a particular problem with gen z girls. They are not even living in the same reality as us.

[@Paul-010]

⁠@@NicholasWolfwood-md7vmExactly, they are brought up to be treated like princess’s and have narcissistic personalities. I feel sorry for today’s young guys.

[@bobdadruma]

She was 17 and she was allowed to date a 20 year old and she was allowed to stay out partying all night. I also assume that her parents gave her access to the car that she was allowed to drive around in at all hours. I helped raise my son and daughter and I would never have allowed this behavior.

[@RepentImmediately]

Various peers stated that her parents never told her no

[@bottlegreen-l6t]

Their ages are irrelevant here

[@DarcyWhite-u6h]

@@bottlegreen-l6tthe ages are relevant- I think it was being pointed out that there was clearly a lack of structure, boundaries and discipline provided the parents. She was underage therefore should still be under the charge of the parents- the parents obviously let this girl run wild and irresponsible… Most parents I know also would never allow a 17 year old to date a 20 year old.

[@johnpatzold8675]

She was 17 not 14. She could have easily been a sophmore when he was a senior in high school. Not strange that they would be boyfriend and girlfirend. However, the access to the care and partying all night - on that you are absolutely correct!

[@Hatbox948]

I dated a 23 year old when I was 17 year's old.

[@elizabethholloway6945]

Thanks!

[@LaniLanilei]

Thank you kind of you

[@interstellarconundrum4774]

"I won't never..." Dr. Grande's pained expression uttering those words is why I come here. Had to play it back a few times. LOL.

[@vickieden5022]

Glad you covered this case. I just recently heard about it and was very curious about this one ! My heart goes out to the boys families. So tragic and senseless 😢

[@Dr.Pancho.Tortilla]

Not beautiful specimens exactly. Maybe their souls have already reincarnated and received an upgrade.

[@joeldejonge2986]

@@blackbriarwolf5766 so they deserve to die? is that what you're saying? is that why you couldn't finish? sure sounds stupid huh

[@venator7889]

A Small KZbinr by the name 'StoryTime' made a documentary on this case

[@AmyLou402]

Our soccer fields are right there also, everyone knows the layout, she chose it purposely. When she got out of hospital she went back out partying. Bragging. She (turned 18 3 days after the crash) didn’t live at her home bc she bullied parents and sister so badly. Chronic drug user. Extreme bully, my daughter was at the high school w her so this is all fact. She put up a GoFundMe requesting 75,000. Competing w the 2 boys gofundme’s for burial. Hers was out pronto, first. She’s narcissistic and very self absorbed. In court the consequence shocked her. She truly thought she’d get time served and go home from there. You can clearly see this in Her face timeline of the day. This WAS murder. 4 Counts of. Just bc her self absorption didn’t allow for the reality of consequences changes nothing. She turned our beautiful town upside down. Got out of hospital and started doing it again. Parole in 15 won’t happen. So much more evidence wasnt seen in the media. Ty Dr Grande for this video and i apologize for the long posts. But this hurt us as a community and she still hasn’t shown remorse. Your analysis is 💯spot on! Much more accurate then ANY article or interview that has been.

[@lightasafeather9750]

I hope that your community heals from this ❤

[@nhmooytis7058]

Why 4 counts for 2 vics?

[@Trish.Norman]

Yes! Why 4 counts instead of 2

[@chantalsmissingselfawarene7655]

She deserves to rot in prison I hope you are right

[@dz9589]

Statistically, women get much shorter sentences than men with all the same conditions, 3x shorter. I doubt she'll serve more than 5-7 years before she's out.

[@hgbugalou]

So many kids today live without understanding the consequences of thier actions. That and narcisism are far too common these days.

[@tinawindham6958]

Mood stabilizers for everybody!!!

[@chandlerrose4545]

It’s far too common by purposeful social constructing.

[@karenneill9109]

Kids have never understood the gravity of their choices- that’s the nature of adolescence. I agree though, that the ‘me, me, me’ is out of control.

[@ariston5433]

@@karenneill9109Only because they have parents who do not know how to raise kids any longer. They are raising self absorbed entitled monsters. We are into the second and third generation of parents that have no moral compass or ethics on how to raise a decent law abiding citizen.

[@DemePoole]

Nah. This is the way that humans have always been. We just hear about a lot faster these days.

[@skippy8664]

You could see the Dr.’s pain when he read the post from Lyndsey containing the double negative, “I won’t never…”

[@freddyambriz223]

This case hits close to home. My niece's life was taken by an underage kid who decided to drive his car into a river at high speeds to kill his ex girlfriend. My niece just happened to want to be there for her friend that night. He jumped in an escape from the vehicle and unfortunately survived. Because hes underage he spent about 2 years in jail, he'll be released soon. So i'm glad Mackenzie got what she deserved. May she rot in prison for the stupid decision she made while undert the influence of the drugs "that cant kill her" her lifes over.

[@RoseNZieg]

I will never EVER understand how you can get a life sentence and still get out in 15.....

[@Peekaboo-Kitty]

It must be a bad joke!

[@CastledarkDweller27]

Yes. Why even call it life sentence then?

[@dlc5166]

I just read about the 15 year life sentence and still don't understand it.

[@bryanc1975]

"Eligible" doesn't mean she automatically get it, though.

[@knemphotography9073]

Because she has “the complexion for the protection for the collection” Paul Mooney

[@horrortackleharry]

Always good to hear Dr Grande contemptuously pronounce "Tik (pause) Tok".

[@Strype13]

I'd be curious to know, after obliterating her car by smashing into a wall at 100mph, killing two people, going through several reconstructive surgeries, and becoming a convicted murderer... if she still thinks the entire endeavor was easier than simply saying, "I'm no longer feeling the chemistry between us. I think we should go our own separate ways?"

[@mulemule]

Yes. Next question?

[@Bloom2Grow]

Feminism has destroyed women’s rational thinking

[@JaimeWarlock]

Narcissists will often prefer that everyone dies than admit they are wrong. If everyone dies, then their "perfect image" is kept intact.

[@Diamonddavej]

This case is actually a cover-up. Mackenzie Shirilla's boyfriend was the son of the county Prosecutor Christine Russo, who ran for judge in 2006 but was lost the election after it was revealed that her brother was caught growing pot on her property, Christine Russo also has an old citation for smoking pot from 1994. Her brother ended up a convicted felon over the pot farm (discovered after cops were called to Christine Russo's property, her brother was angrily confronting her, claiming she owned him money generated by his pot growing business). The claim that Mackenzie Shirilla said she was going to crash the car came from Christine brother, a convicted felon, who was living with the Russos at the time (Mackenzie Shirilla was also living with the Russos). Mackenzie Shirilla, her boyfriend Dominic Russo and a random person they met at a house party, Davion Flanagan, drove to the secluded industrial estate smoke pot. The time that elapsed between them turning onto the side road and the time of the crash indicates they stopped for about 10 minutes, before driving off high as a kite, and into a wall of a building. The drug taking in the industrial estate that played a role in the crash was covered up so to not embarrass Dominic Russo's mother, who has explained has a past record of pot smoking and connection, via her bother, to pot growing (the Judge in the Mackenzie Shirilla case was, by odd coincidence, Nancy Russo. No relation). That said, regardless of whether this was premeditated murder or as it was in reality, drug driving, Mackenzie Shirilla deserves the lengthy sentence she got. The only difference is that the premeditated murder conviction is unsound, it was sought in order to avoid Dominic Russo getting any blame, which in turn protected his mom from impertinent questions, such where did Dominic Russo / Mackenzie Shirilla get pot she found with after the crash (marijuana was found in her jacket pocket with a weighting scales). From Uncle pot farmer?

[@adrialee8149]

I had an abusive bf who would among other terrible things threaten me by driving crazy on the highway to scare me telling me hed crash and kill us. I still get anxiety at times if im not the one driving. Over ten yrs later. If someone does this ...run!

[@Sparkedbynatty]

The fact that she gets parole after 15 years for taking two lives on purpose is absolutely nuts! My condolences to the families!

[@magical8013]

That's if the parole board allows her to, but considering the way she was acting. She'll be getting into a lot of trouble in prison. It's like a playpen for someone trying to do wrong

[@grizzlygaming4155]

though Russo is heartbroken over the loss of his “go-getter” son, he said Shirilla has already suffered enough without being thrown in jail. “She’s just a little kid. She f-ked up. She did a damn stupid thing but now her parents are destroyed, her family’s destroyed too,” Russo said, adding that he’d rather see her get professional help than be locked up. telf believes theres more to the story! thats from the father of the boyfriend he himself f=dont even believe she did it on purpose! soo that screams volumes!

[@lorimav]

​@@grizzlygaming4155There are certain disorders that can't be fixed. She's far too sick to be fixable. Probably has Borderline Personality Disorder that might be helped slightly. That is one thing but in her case killing the friend too shows some complete lack of empathy. If you don't develop empathy at a young age there is no way to fix you. She belongs with that group of humans that generally display no or only limited empathy and who act on that, the criminal population. Out her with like minded individuals where she belongs and so society can be protected from her

[@sarasvensson6026]

The families of her victims will definitely be there at her parole hearings to sabotage her

[@DaltonDaDigga]

I mean she’s 17. If she becomes a better person over the next 15 years I hope she does get out. Really anybody. You can’t change what you’ve done only what you will do. And if somebody has turned themself into somebody who will do good for the community then I don’t see why we should keep punishing them

[@PhysicalEntity]

"She may have thought that the movie title 'The Devil Wears Prada' was actually an instruction" Underrated line, bravo Dr. Grande

[@eej1983able]

Delivered in perfect deadpan lol

[@itskyaaa9058]

that one tickled me lol. very clever

[@samanthaw.861]

The little shrug after Dr Grande says she could’ve just sent a text saying “it’s over” really says it all. This all could’ve been avoided.

[@seyumaiayami3536]

Pretty much. Why is there such a reason to kill your partner over instead of just saying its done and move on. Yeah, might be depressed after, but we have all been there.

[@Krisp138]

Well strangely enough being in a toxic relationship isn't just that easy to just dump someone but yea... I'm 100 % there's better ways to deal

[@expatannie6958]

From her posts on his obituary page after she killed him, I suspect she enjoyed the drama. He was the great love of her life, she hopes he will be waiting for her in heaven, etc. etc. Maybe she thought they were some sort of modern Romeo and Juliet, and she was going to take them both out in a blaze of glory.

[@venator7889]

​@@seyumaiayami3536She loved him and didn't want to lose him.

[@rheverend]

So satisfying when he points out the judge’s incorrect use of “literally”

[@JP-ht6nm]

Literally so satisfying for sure!

[@celeca7]

And the way he grimaces at the use of a double negative 😂

[@dsab381]

My head literally explodes when people use that word incorrectly. It makes a big mess!

[@JP-ht6nm]

@@dsab381 Ah but see, you just used it wrong yourself though

[@dsab381]

@@JP-ht6nm I did it on purpose. I thought the "it makes a big mess!" part should have made it obvious.

[@Claudia-lq3ns]

Love how her mom jumps in with the diagnosis that she "passes out" from time to time. How convenient.

[@LaniLanilei]

Right her defense

[@dannyrichards-nb9sh]

😮😮😮❤❤❤

[@dannyrichards-nb9sh]

​@@LaniLanilei❤

[@Adog00]

Your puns bro “felt unable to drive her point home” “she gave herself the green light to…” 😭😭😭

[@glitchyentity2117]

I once had someone threaten to crash the car during an argument.. I should have left that relationship then and there. It's scary how often people use that tactic to kill others.

[@mulemule]

Deliberately crashing a vehicle is an often-used tactic to kill others?! (Please cite stats and sources.)

[@Diamonddavej]

I looked into this case, found where the accident occurred. I am shocked she was found guilty. There was clear evidence this was an accident, wreckless driving but not murder. The car clearly veered right and the break light illuminated. The claim she was planning this came from a convicted felon. All in all I am very surprised that she was found guilty of murder.

[@glitchyentity2117]

@@Diamonddavej have you seen the CCTV video? She was driving normally one second, and then suddenly sped up to over 100mph and crashed into a brick wall.

[@Neillan]

@@mulemule It's that "SoURcE?!" meme all over again.🤓

[@angry_Australia]

​@@Neillanimagine going through heavy turbulence on a plane and the dude sitting next to you starts reciting statistics about how we have a higher chance getting bitten by a shark or whatever. Like stfu

[@blinkie1114]

The lack of insight into what she’s done to his family is truly disturbing, regardless of her age. Shown by her comment made online about her boyfriend’s death. It’s frightening how this woman’s ego made her value her own life so far above her friends. Her comments are so disgusting, acting as if this were always fated to happen.

[@lisiaetv5478]

What about the passenger's family?

[@phoenixrising6245]

The damage she inflicted on TWO families...

[@blinkie1114]

@@phoenixrising6245 yes absolutely. Although I was responding to her comments on her boyfriends death specifically. Of course she stole two lives.

[@miranda13c]

Imagine stealing the life of TWO young people as well as throwing your entire life away over a teenage romance.

[@mulemule]

Her life was garbage. I'll save my grieving for the victims and the community she savaged.

[@brodieandshoot3681]

Women ☕️

[@s.c.2424]

​@brodieandshoot3681 what does one get out of trolling? Usually when men have such issues with women I assume he needs to come out of the closet?

[@mulemule]

@@s.c.2424 Usually when women attack a man's orientation, I assume they're exploiting their own gender to avoid consequences? (But thanks for not disproving @brodieandshoot3681's point.)

[@Diamonddavej]

I looked into this case, found where the accident occurred. I am shocked she was found guilty. There was clear evidence this was an accident, wreckless driving but not murder. The claim she was planning this came from a convicted felon, on the other hand her boyfriend's aunt said they planned to get married, and friends at a party the night of the crash said they were in good spirts and were not arguing. A police detective testified, under cross-examination by the defence, that the car’s computer system data showed that, about five seconds before the crash, the steering wheel jerked right and then jerked left, indicating that Shirilla had been driving recklessly and then tried to avoid the crash. Also, I found the intersection and mapped out the last seconds before the crash based on the video footage of the crash, streetview imagery of the intersection and the building the car crashed into. The car veered suddenly to the right when she came to the intersection, avoiding trees at the intersection, so there was a clear indication of an effort to avoid the crash. Also, the break lights illuminated before the crash, indicating the break was pressed (though police say the computer did not record a break pedal press, the car does have an emergency break feature, but a manual actuation cannot be ruled out). It's also possible she mixed up the break and accelerator when she unexpectedly came to the intersection, seeing the trees ahead. It seems to me she turned onto the wrong road and did not expect an intersection. She was possibly high on mushrooms. A bag of hallucinogenic mushrooms and a scale was found in her coat pocket. She was unconscious for several days after the crash, and without a court order it was not possible to get a blood sample, so we cannot rule out the possibility she was high. All in all I am very surprised that she was found guilty of murder.

[@greatobserver4072]

" When a person is driven by emotions they may seem exciting in the beginning because they push the relationship into high gear, but these types of relationships always end on the road to nowhere." You stated that perfectly and turning every evaluation into a learning experience for the viewer is a very kind thing for a skilled therapist to do for free. The only thing is, will people actually listen? I hope they do.

[@ebonypegasus9864]

How is it four counts of Murder when only two died? not that the two that died were "only" as very tragic but I still don't understand the vertict of four?

[@rachaelb.]

Imagine you are just a passenger in the back seat listening to people arguing and fighting and having no awareness of the danger you are in, but then before you know it, you are a prisoner in the back seat with no way to escape a sudden fury on wheels. UGH! The car was crunched. Made me feel nauseous to see those photos...

[@sierrakobold6896]

are there photos available with the individuals still in the vehicle?

[@SteveJonesOwnsDSP]

Law enforcement said that she scoped out the same driving path days prior. They tracked her cellphone GPS, and confirmed it with local CCTV footage. She had no business in that area

[@happytanking9985]

Or it was a cut through 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@martynohara8101]

​@@happytanking9985or simply the malicious intent of a vindictive self absorbed girl.

[@themysteryofbluebirdboulevard]

I hope I don't accidentally crash my car near where I was driving around recently. That's some serious kafkaesque commentary

[@happytanking9985]

@@themysteryofbluebirdboulevard Exactly! Nobody is putting themselves or their children in this girls shoes!!!

[@fgang781]

@@happytanking9985i am. And maybe shes guilty but what if shes not? The people just follow the crowd because i heard she had a condition that caused her to pass out according to her mother. Cant this be verified

[@IrishTechnicalThinker]

Love how no matter what case Dr Grande covers he's always smooth and soothing, it's a horrific decision making and she looks like a girl who regrets it but perhaps some divine justice as she can live everyday knowing she killed people, I get uncomfortable remembering dumb stuff I did in my past but can't imagine having to reminisce you're a murderer.

[@jesseemullen]

With her, I think knowing that she won't be able to drink or do drugs for at least 15 years is going to be harder to live with than knowing she's a murderer.

[@Denise-zv4qm]

Oh my gosh I was not expecting all those puns at the end

[@netherfield2000]

I'm confused. She was charged with 4 counts of murder and vehicular homicide. If two people died, why isn't it two counts?

[@theab5867]

I think she was forced to survive because she finally needed to face her consequences. I feel so horrible for both young men losing their lives and their families and friends, to such a spoiled rotten girl. #Narcissism

[@michaelmcgee335]

Can’t blame it shrooms though. I bet the defence tried though.

[@cherie9898]

This girl should NEVER get out of jail. Ever.

[@christophermoltisanti7019]

She´s just a young girl, the judge should have dealt her 2 years on probation, and 500 hours of social duties. Those female judges are all so evil and wicked, we men should have never allowed this.

[@btat16]

​@@christophermoltisanti7019She's 19. A mistake for a 19 year old is getting into a bad relationship, getting into narcotics, or choosing the wrong career. Not murder

[@anthonyhenriques3564]

​@@christophermoltisanti7019u must take a ride in her car as soon as she's out of jail. Take your loved ones too

[@thedarknessunderneathpodca6366]

But Frank Russo, 61, the father of her boyfriend, Dominic Russo, 20, doesn’t support sending Shirilla to jail for life. “It’s horrible for everybody. Yeah, I lost my son, it’s harder on our family, but I don’t want the rest of her life ruined too. It isn’t going to make me feel any better,” he told NBC News Friday.

[@mulemule]

@@thedarknessunderneathpodca6366 That's awfully big of Frank. However, I'm guessing Dominic would feel dramatically different about it if we could ask _him._ (And I've zero-doubt Frank would alter his tune as well if he switched places with his son seconds before slamming into that wall.)

[@rejaneoliveira5019]

Her lack of insight was astounding. In addition, her recklessness, lack of empathy and entitlement was the perfect recipe for tragedy. It think if she wasn’t in this situation, she would probably attract a of lot turmoil in her life nonetheless. Thank you, Dr. Grande.❤

[@Diamonddavej]

I looked into this case, found where the accident occurred. I am shocked she was found guilty. There was clear evidence this was an accident, wreckless driving but not murder. The claim she was planning this came from a convicted felon, on the other hand her boyfriend's aunt said they planned to get married, and friends at a party the night of the crash said they were in good spirts and were not arguing. A police detective testified that the car’s computer system data showed that, about five seconds before the crash, the steering wheel jerked right and then jerked left, indicating that Shirilla had been driving recklessly and then tried to avoid the crash. Also, I found the intersection and mapped out the last moments before the crash based on video footage of the crash, photos of the intersection and the building the car crashed into. The car veered suddenly to the right when she came to the intersection, avoiding trees at the intersection, there was a clear effort to avoid the crash. Also, the break lights illuminated before the crash, indicating the break was pressed (though police say the computer did not record a break pedal press, the car does have an emergency break feature, but a manual actuation cannot be ruled out). It's also possible she mixed up the break and accelerator when she unexpectedly came to the intersection, seeing the trees ahead. All in all I am very surprised that she was found guilty of murder.

[@neonblack211]

interesting.............. I don't know the actual circumstances or the relationship between all these people and why it was deemed a murder, I find it insane that someone would intentionally drive 100miles an hour into a wall, what evidence did they have that this was calculated besides the fact she never slowed down? Some people are shit drivers, and aggressive drivers, before their first accident, expecially young kids... and mabye she was high? Since they found mushrooms on her Whatever the case she definetly belongs in jail for a long time, she killed two people intentional or not. But yeah I haven't seen enough of the evidence to judge whether it was murder or not, that's an extremely strong word. Oh ok they found a text or something where she said "I will crash this car right now"..... well that settles it for most people lol, I bet she wishes she never said that, if it was an accident. Also, they said from the moment she pushed the accelerator down to the moment of impact she never took her foot off, I'd be interested to know how long that period of time was, it must have been significant for her to reach 100 miles an hour on a residential road. I feel like there must be alot of information we aren't getting from this video

[@shweefranglais7900]

Appreciate the effort you put in with all the word plays whilst also demonstrating sufficient gravity with regard to the aspects which require it.

[@Dirk80241]

“She felt unable to drive her point home.” And then she drove her car into a building, killing two friends. What a sad, horrible crime, a not-surprising outcome of a destructive lifestyle. May other young people grow up with love, purpose and kindness.

[@MF-ty2zn1]

Parole??? She planned it! She should've been charged with first degree murder.

[@hgbugalou]

Not enough evidence. The prosecutor didn't want to risk her getting off on the most serious charge.

[@mobilemarshall]

the legal system functioning as it's intended

[@FilosSofo]

Pussy pass

[@robertgiles9124]

The Broken System@@mobilemarshall

[@adayinforever]

I mean in 30 years she won't be the same person, hopefully she'll be a better person. And I mean she is only 17(at the time), so I'm sure that weighed in.

[@distilledutopia3468]

The mom’s reaction when the judge was handing down the verdict says all I need to know about her upbringing

[@davehooper4498]

Absolutely

[@ravendon]

This makes you wonder about her parents. Were they good parents? Or was she a demon child that no amount of good parenting would fix?

[@thedarknessunderneathpodca6366]

Not every parent is automatically a fuck up who produces a screwed-up kid. She clearly has issues. But Frank Russo, 61, the father of her boyfriend, Dominic Russo, 20, doesn’t support sending Shirilla to jail for life. “It’s horrible for everybody. Yeah, I lost my son, it’s harder on our family, but I don’t want the rest of her life ruined too. It isn’t going to make me feel any better,” he told NBC News Friday.

[@mulemule]

@@thedarknessunderneathpodca6366 That's awfully big of Frank. However, I'm guessing Dominic would feel dramatically different about it if we could ask _him._ (And I've zero-doubt Frank would alter his tune as well if he switched places with his son seconds before slamming into that wall.)

[@thedarknessunderneathpodca6366]

@@mulemule I am just offering a different position. He seems sincere. He is more generous than me. I would severe her head and put it on a pike if she did that to my family and I had impunity to do so.

[@Ocyla]

@@thedarknessunderneathpodca6366 Yeah there's nature and nuture and sometimes nature just wins out. That could be terrible nature too.

[@h91rex100]

@@thedarknessunderneathpodca6366 Great idea dad! Let's let her out and run the risk of her getting another bf killed later on down the road!

[@shanastanek432]

I grew up in Strongsville. The street this happened on is commonly used for cut thrus to avoid stop lights, traffic, and the cops, especially by the kids in HS. Wild to see how a complete lie is being used to prove premeditation.

[@ClaireCarley]

A series of complete lies was used to persecute and convict her, in my considered opinion. I also believe her conviction is going to be overturned on appeal imminently.

[@edgardosierraltaaracena5772]

Dr. Grande siempre lo más grande, thanks for the content Doc!

[@Adam-wt5id]

Your ability to do research and structure it all in these videos on such a quick basis is amazing. Very glad to have people like you Dr Grande in all of our lives. In this wild world you turn these large hectic events into a concise moment so that we can go about our days and digest these with brevity. Thank you for all your efforts

[@aylsagutierrez7185]

I am so glad they were able to go through Dominic’s phone and see the videos of Mackenzie already being a red flag when she was degrading him and threatening him. Premeditated for sure.

[@AlyssiaPop]

Omg I just asked you to cover this case 2 days ago in another video and you delivered!!!! Thank you soooo much ❤❤ ❤

[@CreepyGnocchi]

Thank you for this upload. I wanted to get more info on this story to understand. Very sad story for so many.

[@johnhyde8892]

I have followed this story because it's everywhere, I understand that there is only notes and nothing like finger prints or CCTV pictures.

[@paulmaddison6193]

Please do the Lucy Letby case from the UK now that she has been found guilty. It would be great to hear your insights on this insane situation.

[@NissieShay]

Thank you for this. I had been following the case, but I didn't know there was a verdict.

[@rickjames5998]

who?

[@mackaylacook148]

​@@rickjames5998 serial killer nurse, killed multiple babies on the job

[@LDiamondz]

​@@mackaylacook148 Babies? 😢 Some things are unforgivable. I hope she gets what she deserves.

[@mackaylacook148]

@@LDiamondz agreed

[@thesongbird2383]

Dr. Grande - I'm glad you covered this case in great detail. I loved your "won't never" grammar grimace! 👍💜🌵

[@marisapolesky]

Please do Lucy Letby, the nurse who killed the babies in England.

[@cynthiacarter514]

I just read about that; horrific

[@Andreamom001]

I am sure he will

[@yayhandles]

Absolutely vomit-inducingly vile.

[@marissasimas9258]

If you’re interested, Stephanie Harlowe covered that case and did a fantastic job.

[@joeriveracomedy]

Or that dumb girl in nm who killed her baby then she & her mom pretended it never happened.

[@thebigpicture2032]

Just curious if this was the model of Toyota Camry that was recalled for stuck accelerator. That happened to me but I quickly put the car in neutral and shut the key off. A young driver on drugs would not likely be able to react in similar fashion.

[@katherinebergdahl2669]

The slipper causes doubt for me since it was lodged under the pedal

[@tripledair]

Mackenzie: can you take my license away for like 10 years? Detective: ...More.

[@cecilr7986]

Thanks Doc. I read about this, but didn't know the details. Your thoughts and opinions are always worth listening to.

[@reverendlowdown3577]

Dr. Todd always has the best shirts. Keep it up, doc!

[@sunshine21911]

Thank you for this. I was having a hard time finding any history or evidence that factored into the conviction.

[@max-comfy4695]

Thanks for your analysis Dr. Grande

[@robinannaniaz9670]

What sealed her fate is the fact that she aimed the cars right side, where the two guys were sitting, at the corner of the wall. Like those crash tests you see where they slam the left side into the wall. In this case, it was the right side. It's clear that she didn't want to kill herself. Only the guys 😢

[@ginafarley6190]

Thanks for pointing that out! More evidence of intentional homicide

[@MsHomestay]

Ok, but she was unconscious and stopped breathing when discovered. Was it just luck that she survived?

[@JaimeWarlock]

@@MsHomestay Probably part luck, part planning, part execution. She was obviously willing to take a chance on dying to make her point or get her way.

[@beckydoesit9331]

I used to drive cars that I stole into buildings and houses, some churches, and then I would run like shit and then come back from the other side of the block and be like, 'What happened?". I love my life.

[@DANGJOS]

How could she have steered to such precision at that speed?

[@Neillan]

There's a distinct possibility she was abusing her boyfriend and killed him out of spite, intending to die as well to escape consequences for her actions. Davian was just another one of her victims, can't imagine what his family felt like after that. She might have killed him to eliminate any potential surviving witnesses after the fact as well.

[@polarbear67]

She definitely intended to die.

[@chandlerrose4545]

@@frankiem4062Anyone can abuse anyone. That’s only a three year age difference it’s not a stark age difference. Children abuse parents. Women abuse men. Young abuse the old. Plus a persons brain isn’t even fully developed until 25.

[@lisamh9037]

I'm afraid it's known she treated him like crap. She was a mess, bad rep for being just nasty and horrible, and I understand Dom wanted out. She took it out on him, as she threatened to do on prior occasions. This was sad for all but no one who knew her, classmates and parents, was shocked to hear she did it purposely. This is my hometown. I didn't know about her until this happened but my kid was friends with the guys. They weren't innocent as far as less lethal activities, but they were kind, nice boys. And she was an awful wild child.

[@Neillan]

@@frankiem4062 You clearly have no idea how spousal abuse works.

[@TRENCHESandTREADS]

@@frankiem4062 It's this kind of attitude that lets female on male abuse go unpunished and un-fixed. Be better.

[@jenanne31]

"You made me the girl I am today." What a sad epitaph. Thanks for your content, Dr. Grande; I look forward to it every day.

[@skycloud4802]

I don't think she is self aware how much it seems like a rub in his families face.

[@phoenixrising6245]

I agree. That's more like an insult!

[@Reallyheistaken]

What is that? A felon?

[@jenanne31]

@@Reallyheistaken Epitaph? It's a commemoration for a person (usually dead), or an inscription on a tombstone.

[@Reallyheistaken]

@@jenanne31 What she is, is a felon a criminal what she is today.

[@DianaMaryM]

Recently I was witnessed to a crash in the street when I was on the school run. An 18yr old who had just got a brand new expensive car bought by his dad smashed into the car in front. Afterwards I spoke to my daughter and it turned out that he was at her school and she knew him. To this day he swears blind he pressed the break not the accelerator.. so we'll never know, the car was written off. whichever is true, obviously the last thing he wanted to do was ruin his car and cause an accident, and the person he crashed into was a complete stranger. I also have a friend who was driving in a car towards the toll on the motorway. When her partner pressed is foot on the break nothing happened.. they crashed at 50 miles an hour, using the handbrake to slow them down. Luckily they both lived to tell the tale. When they took the car to the garage they could find nothing wrong with the brakes or any of the other workings of the car .. yet the brakes completely failed. We are presented with all the usual character assassinations by the media. She was 17 and liked to put on false eyelashes and say dizzy stuff about drugs snd give general bravado to go with it. Kids that age are all about image and play acting characters online. I have a 24-year-old daughter and she posted up similar kind of pictures as did her friends until she was about 20... it didn't make her a murderer... she's a very sensible caring young lady, but I'm sure if she'd been in a car with mechanical failure and killed her friends they would be perfect tools for a character assassination to imply murderous Intent. When people go through horrific things they sometimes don't behave in the way people expect, nobody knows what it's like to experience a trauma like this and they have no idea how they would react because everyone has a different response. There are hundreds of deaths caused by car failures and split second judgements especially when people are young. The more likely explanation than a ‘suicide mission’ is that Mackenzie pressed the wrong pedal all that the car had mechanical failure. There's no motive here, no previous suicide attemps no history of psychosis. Why did the court assume she intended to do this without investigating alternatives. If she really was an a suicide mission, then why was she not put in a psychiatric ward ? Where was the jury in this case?

[@jasonfield3903]

Once Again….An Awesome Analysis 🧐 Of This Case, Dr. Grande! There Are A Select Few That I Categorize Deserving Of My Utmost Respect And Look Up To….You Are In This Group. Thanks 🙏 For Sharing Your Intellectual Talent With The World.🥰.

[@arianem.163]

Her selfishness is absolutely unbelievable. I am so sorry for the victims' families. And for the victims gone too soon.

[@elizabethwarman9028]

Good afternoon Dr Grande, excellent analysis. As always I learn something new from your videos. Have a great weekend.

[@tntina420]

My “best” friend drove me and 3 other people into a tree at 60 mph on a dead end dirt road. In court, she said she was trying to commit suicide. I found out years later she was the one responsible for breaking into my apartment and cutting up all of my clothes plus a pair of boots that belonged to her that she left at my place and throwing them onto the roof outside. She was with me that day and saw how upset I was when I came home and saw all of my stuff destroyed. She was extremely jealous of my relationship with my boyfriend and even dated an ex I went out with for a short time. I didn’t put two and two together until years after it all happened and I never believed that she was trying to commit suicide when she hit the tree, I thought that was an excuse to avoid the embarrassment of not hitting the brakes when I told her to slow down because there was a tree ahead. I now believe she was trying to hurt or kill me and with 3 other friends in the back seat. So crazy. There is a lot more to this story like the car she wrecked belonged to the ex of mine that she was dating and how she consoled me as I cried when I found my stuff destroyed and pointed out that her boots were also cut up. I was 16 and I was on my own and apparently still very naive.

[@kellygreene6752]

Now that’s toxic! You must’ve been so scared, being that young and going through it alone. I’m glad you got out alive because she had a goal. She needed serious, serious help. Probably still does. Stay safe and well.

[@MM-wi5dn]

Yikes. True crazy. Evil.

[@dannyrichards-nb9sh]

❤❤❤❤❤

[@dannyrichards-nb9sh]

​@@kellygreene6752❤❤

[@ember-brandt]

I understand he can't actually diagnose her without examining her in person, but am I correct that her behaviors are at least primarily consistent with a narcissistic sociopath?

[@will4688]

That’s a nice shirt Dr. Grande. Great video.

[@juliebooth8865]

How in the world did she survive that herself ???

[@tessaducek5601]

Like drunk drivers. They create devastation and walk away... 🤷

[@markmorehouse6281]

​@@tessaducek5601I wonder if she was the only one wearing a seatbelt?

[@DottieMinerva]

She barely did. She wasn’t breathing at the time first responders got there. Seems like the drivers always survive for some reason.

[@nhmooytis7058]

Satan protects his own.

[@tessaducek5601]

@@markmorehouse6281 Good point! 👍👍👍 That actually makes a lot of sense.. 😉

[@twistedyogert]

No matter how good an idea feels when you're angry it usually isn't.

[@garretsloan5990]

I won’t never get tired of hearing your pov.

[@MauraMcDermott-zq5dw]

I saw the very sad video of when the police and a chaplain came to tell Dominic's mother of his death. I was crying throughout the entire video; it was the saddest thing I've ever seen in my life.

[@evansjessicae]

Oh, man! Your pun game is above and beyond. I feel guilty for laughing so many times during a sad video. 🙈😂

[@MedusasFeelinSalty]

If she had a history of blackout spells like her mother stated, the DMV would want forms from her doctor filled out yearly, stating she is competent to drive. It's the same with people who have epilepsy. I've got a defibrillator in my chest and still even have to get that form done every year, and I haven't passed out since they put it in at the end of 2016. So I have a hard time believing that she passed out. More likely she was totally loaded on drugs and may not remember because of that.

[@soclose2her]

That’s what I was thinking!

[@seyumaiayami3536]

Probably drugs. My wife couldn't drive for five years due to seizures. Thankfully hasn't had one since and is driving just fine now.

[@kentuckybowl-o-sticks]

BINGO. Not a sympathetic figure, but how do we KNOW she was aware of what she was doing at the time and not HALLUCINATING or something? P.S., While the CHARGES may have been excessive, the SENTENCE may be appropriate.

[@joannemurray3384]

I really enjoy your descriptions and explanations!

[@leliablackwell5141]

Thanks for your insight on this. As always, you’re videos are interesting and thought provoking.

[@meganbessenbacher7107]

The prada stuck to the accelerator gives me pause.

[@ciara7172]

I was waiting for you to cover this!!

[@oliverquach9614]

I’m convinced this was a case of attempted murder-suicide.

[@icturner23]

No shit, Sherlock. I don't think there is even one person who thinks otherwise.

[@openorwap5412]

That's pretty much exactly what Dr. Grande says in the video.

[@paulinegallagher7821]

Correction: Murder -attempted suicide.

[@kathypappas6867]

I was stunned when I saw the car , and then to find she did it on purpose was appalling and sad.

[@Monicuxiable1]

But how do they know that? I just find out about this case (Im from Spain, so we know nothing about it), and I still find hard to believe she did it on purpose

[@christianebers]

I really value your judgement and opinion on these dark events…

[@markaprill6501]

Dr Grande, you have the most amazing sarcastic facial expression when you say you are making the disclosure.

[@Sidewinder627]

What if the Prada slipper accidentally got stuck in the accelerator? Damn, that would be some Final Destination shit

[@user-vs3dw8mt1d]

Emotionally dysregulated and unboundaried, magical thinking, grandiosity, entitled and self-soothing behavior (drug use). Taking a life is the ultimate act of control. Welcome to American Horror Story.

[@karenbutcher1240]

Domestic Violence never ends well. It seems that there were opportunities to get this girl help, possibly even involuntary evaluation for past threats to drive into something.

[@sbrooke210]

I agree, there were many cries for help that went unanswered. Sounds even like she had BPD and was terrified of abandonment and had no boundaries of emotion

[@marissasimas9258]

If anyone is interested in a deep dive of the Lucy Letby case, Stephanie Harlowe did an excellent one. Great video as usual, Dr!

[@valleygirl2530]

So has Pat Brown done more of a description of Letbys mental illness. Interesting.

[@dannyrichards-nb9sh]

😮😮❤❤

[@dannyrichards-nb9sh]

​@@valleygirl2530ok

[@beesting7679]

i have no words for this one

[@annakatebertolet2703]

"She maybe just wanted to gently slam into the building but just made a mistake."