Tekken 8's Special Style "easy mode" may be more powerful than you think!

[@rooflemonger]

So like many of you I wrote off "special style" as basically, handholding for babies at the start. However, are aspects of Special Style sort of... abusable? I think so as this video goes into. This isn't SF6 modern controls, you can swap in and out of special style at will on the fly, and the alleged "downsides" of something like a special style electric wind god fist I really don't think are bad at all as we go into the video in depth, so give a watch, like if ya liked it, and let me know what you think!

[@Legal4L]

What is funny about it- if you mashup this console inputs with normal inputs you can use probably easiest ~70-85dmg combos(Reina, confirmed). Im using it sometimes because of time- for me its much more easier to use EWGF with it than without it. So... simply when you hybrid it it's very useful. Especially on the beginning to have fun and later when you want to learn this game.

[@Kakomss]

Can you chain them together? It's common to do 3 or 4 ewgf to juggle the opponent for big damage, but with baby mode i assume it just continues the auto combo

[@beehills177]

Thank you so much for making this video! Have been requesting one on this topic 🎉🎉

[@Tamichtube]

I generally do the opposite when it comes to easy inputs in fighting games, I expect the devs don't fully understand that some char get really powerful easy inputs. It happened in SF6 and it seems it happened in T8. I don't even feel it's good for beginners to have easy inputs available in ranked, it might also discourage the new players that want to learn regular inputs but then lose often to other beginners mashing 1. Easy inputs is much better not being in ranked.

[@Johnnycagea]

Nah, if I see Mishimas bring this menu up, I'm crouching right away.

[@iatlas-_-129]

I normally do this I can electric okay manually but when players see it pop up the crouch then I turn it off and do mid in heat rush 😈

[@gelosaurus]

Yes, exactly. It’s also the mixup/mind game factor. 😮

[@srseki]

He is plinking, no way you could see it then react

[@Johnnycagea]

He is, but most people I go up against (red rank atm) aren't very subtle about it.

[@aryferreira2375]

​@@iatlas-_-129 huge brains, baiting

[@rooflemonger]

Alright next video HOPEFULLY should be the first of our Tekken 8 character guides, due to being by far the most requested it will be King! Also we should finally slip back into other games soon as the big Evo announcement event is soon, new Ed info has to be like... sometime soon right? and who knows what else

[@Reldan]

*RAWR*

[@FutureWorldX]

Then next should be Kuma, because Kuma is the true successor to Heihachi. Also Dunkey released a video with a lot of Kuma gameplay.

[@dokhantube]

How far down the line is Acuzena?

[@rooflemonger]

@@dokhantube legit i got nothing ordered or planed but she'd be closer than further, as shes both popular, and I actually like her

[@badmana5768]

nice! Looking forward to it. Hope to see my man Jack soon!

[@palksen]

I've been playing since tekken 3, but 1 year ago I was diagnosed with arthritis, some of my finger tendons are permanently damaged and special style gives me a chance of playing my favorite game series of all time

[@kaom4713]

Aight bro just don’t be bringing that shit into ranked

[@DBTHEPLUG]

​@@kaom4713😐

[@napalmmoon]

@@kaom4713 you did not just do him like that 💀

[@andremyers6902]

Can nobody tell anyone how to play if he wanna use special moves he can no matter if it’s ranked or regular he bought the game there for he can play how he wants cause I’m for sure using it rather you like it or not

[@alexmediato299]

​@@andremyers6902 take an English class

[@JuJusCornerr]

I had a king switch to it mid match and he started throwing me around like a rag doll 🥴

[@JungleOfMeat]

I use king SS. But I do all the throw inputs. Well you need to for most of them. I just like SS combos and special moves

[@123nicanor]

HAHAHA that actually made me laugh holy moly 🤣🤣

[@fidelc4shfl0w75]

The mishima Special Style should be a WGF not an electric. I believe thats how it was in 7. Plus on block, fast recovery, pushback, frame perfect launcher should not be on one button lol

[@Antroz0197]

late reply but I remember it doing electric. I was using it in story mode while learning t7 and I remember being shocked it gave me electric lol

[@MC_HANDROLLED]

Yeah there’s no reason for it to be the perfect input. You don’t need the perfect for the mash combo. No reason to give the plus frames. If they want to make it safe on block that’s one thing, but the full +5 plus frames is unnecessary

[@fidelc4shfl0w75]

@@Antroz0197 I could be wrong but yeah I remember that also. I think it's only story mode though.

[@Tkyoking]

I don’t hate special style but as a newer tekken player who only played 7 and tekken tag 2 part of the fun is learning how to do inputs but I get some people just want to play the game and not worry about inputs

[@ShikiRyougi05]

I honestly can't comprehend why they wouldn't just...give special style the normal WGF, electric is so unnecessary

[@Tkyoking]

@@ShikiRyougi05 yeah It kinda sucks too because I feel like out of 10 time I can probably only do 2-3 myself but I think they did that so Mishima’s are easier for newer people to pick up and use

[@Jay_23696]

I mean I don’t wanna sweat so I could just press a button and still shit on players regardless so that’s why this is fun

[@BlueLightningSky]

Bringing up the special menu is the new tbag in this game

[@Tremuoso]

i love how this feels like it's balanced just by telling the other playing on screen you are using 1 button mode and having to deal with the shame of it lol

[@rooflemonger]

I think shame is gonna be the single greatest deterrent against this tech, otherwise it would be very widespread

[@dylan538]

it should put a big special style logo on your player profile somewhere if more of your games are played with it than not

[@vectorz8821]

@@SeraphyxFair enough, but best believe I know what you’re going to do and I’m GOING to punish you for it

[@Pikachu-qr4yb]

It’s like joining the Tour de France and then adding assistant wheels to your bike mid race 😂

[@jackdaniels5569]

Players who use assist should be paired with each other

[@phdbot4483]

Yesterday, my first set against a Victor online was one who toggled on and off the special style and I lost. It was frustrating to say the least, but I'll take notes for next time I face someone who plays like that, lol!

[@dramamine755]

Maybe don’t take a video game so seriously and like you have any sort of prestige because you don’t use features in said video game

[@bonza1033]

@@dramamine755 I can see why bro can get frustrated, imagine putting in time and effort to learn the in’s and out of a character but a person who toggled special style can do all that with just spamming one button. Tbh I think using special style hinders the user in properly learning fundamentals but for a causal player I can kinda see why they don’t wanna put in the hours into a single character.

[@AlexanderMartinez-kd7cz]

putting electrics on easy mode is just paradoxical. I'd get putting a WGF there, but the whole point of the electric is the execution.

[@ShikiRyougi05]

100% agree. This is stupid.

[@habijjj]

Have you fought against Kuma yet every Kuma can do 3 electrics in a row

[@AxeMain]

​@habijjj kuma has to be in heat to do it, and at that point the Mishima's always turn into the electrics so it's a moot point that kuma can do it

[@liltokyodrift]

@@AxeMaindude this game is FUCKED

[@melvinshine9841]

You have me seriously considering turning special style on for just a half second so I can get an Electric. I started practicing God Fists in Tekken 7 two months ago in preparation for Reina and to this day every single Electric I've done has been 100% by accident.

[@cameronpitcher6562]

Best advice i can give you is after you press forward let go of directions then press down forward. The star means from neutral

[@magnolt]

if you want extremely consistent electrics you gotta pay $200+ for a cross up so yea...

[@dbfzato-1327]

keep at it you will get it! what i do is input drills, do the same input 10 times in a row no mess ups, if you do start again, mabie 2 3 times a day and you will improve! its how i learnt super input in ggst

[@dbfzato-1327]

or sneaky press l1 haha@@magnolt

[@CrystalMang0]

You can't do the electric combos as spamming it will make an auto combo. Not to mention the slower speed to

[@whizthesugoi]

Special Style is SO funny to use Mashing triangle hasnt ever been this fun

[@OhNoTheFace]

Until it gets wins

[@AftermathRV]

@@OhNoTheFace Theres something positive about this : its always the same moves, you can easily get past this, once its brought up, you know what to expect.

[@fatalishuntinghorn]

Noctis in tekken 7

[@CryingWolf916]

agreed

[@wesms9575]

Thank you so much for making a video on this. I'm a fighting game player that used to only stick to games like for honor and lethal league because as a disabled person, the depth of inputs was too much for street fighter and games like this one. The existence of modern and special style allow me to play competitively for the first time and I've picked up these games and I am enjoying an immensely fun time. Especially with the ability to toggle on and off. It allows me to do what I can in normal mode and supplement if there are any inputs that are too difficult because of the way my hands work. I really like your content. Thank you for making videos like this that make the game more accessible to people with disabilities. I'm so happy I can use modern and special style in ranked as well.

[@mattia362]

Based lethal league enjoyer

[@DaquanHarrison]

Me too

[@TheRealGeorgeGibson]

This being an option in ranked is actually criminal.

[@FailToilet]

They wanna push noobs to higher ranks so they won’t quit the game since they’re lazy ti learn

[@dark__angel__9150]

100%agree with you brother

[@dark__angel__9150]

​@@FailToilet yeah but there's no need for special style cuz now u can't get demoted for the first 10 ranks and by the time u reach the that hill u will already be better at the game so there is no need for special style.all special style dies is ruining the fun for us the ppl who want to actually learn the game

[@JungleOfMeat]

Either use it yourself or stop crying

[@dark__angel__9150]

@@JungleOfMeat how about you trying to learn to play the game instead.if u want so badly to mash buttons u can go play something else besides fighting games

[@FakeFlameSprite]

I think it'd be neat if they had options for how the special style appears mid match, such as condensing it to just the buttons off to the side. could be a nice thing to have for improving players and for players using it for shortcuts like this

[@superluismigueL100]

This shouldn't be a thing in ranked mode. Or at least it should only be selectable before joining a match and you can't switch it on and off mid match

[@dougakira1]

Agree

[@desmondgreen8433]

The crazy thing it is and people try to abuse it and still get whooped badly😂

[@Gg.giantsfan]

My first tekken ever and if I see that menu pop it’s now my duty to make u get better

[@Zachebi]

Only people that rely on it are scrubs, they dont even realise you’ve already adapted to the 1 launcher they’re just spamming, then they try to do lows and mess up cause they dont even know what moves going to come out

[@malikrobinson9922]

Exactly I'm trying to fight. If feels like cheating and skipping putting in inputs .

[@Gh0st-QDH]

I’ve been using easy mode to do EWGF and now I finally know what is the difference with the classic mode! Thanks!

[@Gh0st-QDH]

But I’m still curious how did you know easy mode is 18 frames?

[@TheAciditty]

@@Gh0st-QDH Command display on the left has a number of frames each input was executed assuming 60fps interpolation.

[@rooflemonger]

manually recorded and went frame by frame

[@SenecaRaine]

I'm torn on it. Tekken 8 being my first since Tag, it helped me see the combos for people I don't know and made story mode fun without knowing everyone. But...Ranked is essentially nonstop people pulling off ridiculous combos in low ranks compared to me struggling to learn new combos.

[@Slimerson93]

Because they probably hit the lab before hopping online

[@jackdaniels5569]

​@@Slimerson93practicing combos in training mode and in a match is way different

[@DE4DZONE]

well low ranked is a little scewed right now because people of all skill levels have to grind through it to get where they should be.

[@99sadness]

U don't practice combos in ranked, you execute them. Practice and patience. If you can't combo a training dummy u can't combo a ranked opponent.

[@Slimerson93]

@@jackdaniels5569 why you practicing in a live match? Make it make sense u dnt pop open a game and instantly hop online you’re gonna get folded and feel shitty. I said wtf i said.

[@xaahd]

If people are going to use this then I no longer want to hear ANY complaining about leverless fighsticks being unfair. I don't think "special style" should be allowed in online ranked tbh. Unpopular opinion, I know.

[@usmansubhani7482]

Skill issue. Special style basically tells you their inputs and does the exact same moves. If you can’t punish them for it by side stepping or other choices, then you’re just not good enough for a higher rank.

[@Shin-iv6yc]

@@usmansubhani7482 Your comment is insanely arrogant. Not everyone is a Top 10 US player like you who can just read inputs like a book. Some people are new to that series and want to learn it the true way without making use of Special Style. Quite hard if some newcomers are going the "easy" way by just sticking to Special Style right away.

[@Shin-iv6yc]

@@usmansubhani7482 Also. Tell me what platform you play on as well as your gamertag in Tekken 8. So we can factcheck if you are really as good as you pretend here.

[@pian-0g445]

@@Shin-iv6ycbut the whole point of ranked is that you’re a rank that represents your skills. Casuals aren’t really expected to reach high levels. And if switching between stylish to normal controls is viable in lower ranks, well so be it. Let the casuals play as they want with each other. But those that want to reach higher ranks, the least they can do are learn how to punish these combos.

[@thecoomchalice5441]

@@Shin-iv6yc Keep cooking, king!

[@the910toparis6]

I’m a newbie/ casual I just feel cheesy bringing this menu up, I rather play and see what combos I can cook up by myself

[@mallow2902]

Learning to do it yourself is so much more rewarding than taking the easy way out just because you want to see the flashy stuff. I'm still working on my manual electrics.

[@Zachebi]

Learn how to play without it first, then if you wanna integrate it into your playstyle it can be a good mindgame when players see the menu come up

[@dramamine755]

@@mallow2902 imagine being pretentious over a video game. Get over yourself

[@mallow2902]

@@dramamine755 casuals are the real elitists, as always.

[@kwedl]

It's great for story mode/arcade or people who really just want to casually button mash, but imo in online lobbies there should be an option for it and in ranked it should be completely disabled.

[@soulpunisher743]

I also feel like it should be a setting to turn it on like in street fighter and they should put normal players vs normal players and special mode players vs special mode players

[@zenhydra]

@rooflemonger I respect your willingness to keeping an open mind for these kinds of play options. As fellow "old" man, it's very easy to fall into a mindset that actively rejects shortcuts to skills we have spent years (errr...decades) honing, but if we are intellectually honest the truth is that we don't really want there to be a physical barrier keeping the player base from being as large as it can be. We just don't want our hard-earned experience to become meaningless. Time has a tendency to be a bit of a jerk though, and with each passing year the bendy bits and the ends of my arms get just a smidge less reliable (and pain-free). I like that the people making a genre of games that I adore are putting real thought into how to best implement control schemes that allow as many people as possible to enjoy the same games I love.

[@deice3]

Used this tech day 1, its great for a player new to tekken without a decade of experience

[@paprikagames]

having a king using these buttons is a nightmare tho

[@andrewmirror4611]

... Why are people not mentioning the obvious negative side to this not mentioned in the video, oh right here are the SF players that don't realize EWGF has utility outside being an uppercut to use in neutral. For most Mishimas, this is your main and only launch punisher from standing, while other characters start launching at -15, Mishimas get to launch punish at -13 or -14 depending on the character and obviously at 18 frames it's just not usable there. Next, there is a lot of value in delaying your EWGF for various reasons, in particular in combos. Also some people in the comments seem to believe it was just a WGF in T7 assist mode, it was full electric, I believe it was slower but maybe even the same speed.

[@Novellous210]

You could use it to make your oppenet think that you need to rely on it, and then just throw it out normally.... I love pandas kick and I'm kinda thinking of using it in that way

[@AkibanaZero]

I had a huge brainwave about the possibility of plinking into electric and you just confirmed it for me, cant wait to try this out 😂

[@Reldan]

I'll have to check out what my characters have available. Finding out you can plink this makes it 10x more useful, and seeing the menu at all likely will make the opponent underestimate you. Probably will vary a lot in usefulness by character.

[@Zedzilliot]

Yeah id been practicing electrics but I value consistency over one or two frames faster ewgf. Guess im doing this now!

[@peanutpablo9596]

In theory, I don't mind this type of stuff with special style or modern controls, but I don't want it in competitive online play. It only brings more and more problems as we discover

[@CryingWolf916]

You dont want it because you lose to it? Thats how I know that you suck at the game scrub mentality

[@CryingWolf916]

The only problem I see is you being a SCRUB keep giving me free wins 🤣

[@ComeForPeace]

Thank Rooflemonger! As a player who plink so much in streetfighter4. This plink version of EDGW is so intuitive to me. It takes me only 3 mins of practice to change all my combo routes to the electric version of the god fist. I hope street fighter 5 could add in such one button swap between modern and classic, so that I dont need to do the awkward down down input.

[@CrystalMang0]

Downside is you can't do electric combos or auto combo will come out. And it's slower.

[@ComeForPeace]

@@CrystalMang0 I plink in and out of the assist mode within 3 frames, the moment the opponent get hit by the EDGF, I am already in normal mode.So I can do most of the combos with no problem😉. Yea, as u said, this technique will not able to do frame perfect EDGF combos (13frame). But no matter what I also can’t do those 0 frame combos. So I find this matter really works for me.

[@AxeMain]

Street fighter 5 has modern control?

[@actuallynotsteve]

Already been trying this on Azucena, it's super powerful

[@ShadowmatGaming]

Thanks for the great video. I've tried not to use it, but turn it on by mistake all the time. Might try to incorporate this into my routine.

[@MisanThrope-cu1mw7fj3p]

Thanks a lot for the vid. I'm a complete Tekken noob, trying to learn this overwhelming game from scratch. I kind of shied away from Special style for exactly the reasons stated (and also out of fear that I'd have to re-learn to play properly if I wanted to get past "scrub leagues"). This vid gave me a lot of food for thought.

[@shawnbreen6419]

I could see this adding another layer of mix up in a way if you see somebody playing a Nishima and they pull the menu up, you might be able to condition them to expect an electricheck but then drop it and bait a punish or throw something Wild like an air combo instead.. I wonder if this will see any sort of play in tournament or the proceor if they might even just ban it outright in competitive

[@Paeddl]

Special Style has a big Issue that makes it worse then SF6 Modern Mode. Modern Mode in SF6 has pros and cons, yeah you get stuff like instant Shoryukens but you lose Access to a lot of your moveset and you do less Damage. The Big Issue with Special Style is that it almost has no disadvantages because you can opt in and out freely mid match, it should be like SF6 modern mode where you have to choose on the Character select Screen, either they change it this way or they need to remove electrics from Special style.

[@brandonsantoso]

Nope special style is awesome as dpad is worse without it.

[@Paeddl]

@@brandonsantoso it can stay, just make it a choice before starting a match, without the option to switch back and forth mid fight

[@STOPPEDINCOLORADO]

Whenever I see this menu I know the match is gonna be some bullshit

[@hoassyoass2480]

There is some applications you can do with this. I tested Reina Special style in punishment and whiff punishment scenarios. You can’t punish -19f kids with this. Hellsweeps you can though. Whiff punish scenarios it can’t be used if the move has a lot of end lag but those are usually reserved for moves you shouldnt be using in the first place. This might help if you’re new but it’s a crutch because you can’t use this with wavedashes. Only the wind god fist comes out. If someone actually makes this useful down the line it needs to be banned immediately

[@LucasOliveira-cy1os]

This is kinda broken for people that use keyboard macros tbh. Usually if they macro something like EWGF they have to macro 2 keys, one for each side, but with this its literally 1 button EWGF, 1 button hellsweep. People are still figuring out stuff with special style tap to optimize combos or make them more confortable/consistent, but if keyboard macros becomes something widespread it will be kind of a problem in the future.

[@andyboy624]

There's been a back and forth debate in streetfighter community regarding Classic vs. Modern control's for sf6 since launch

[@kinghadu9611]

There isn't any back and forth debate of anything in SF6, most of the FGC are illiterate and doesn't even own a high refresh rate monitor.

[@kodaiyoung]

If you are going to bypass every single barrier that a powe rmove has without almost no penalty, it's borderly unfair.

[@lordjesusssdotcom2020]

I figured I'd use special style like this when I first played the demo but by the time the game dropped I took it out my setup calling myself being honorable but if everybody just gonna use it I think im putting it back. The extra moves wouldn't hurt.

[@balistaPE]

I am a "only" 2d fighting games player, and i want to go and try tekken, but man this is game is so much diferent, it's not a anime fighting or a king of Fighters or a Street Fighter, the characters have so many moves and the game is so much diferent, this mode made me buy and try the game and the character and this so fun, you can have acess to make great combos and dont be so much noob hehehe, the main factor for me is the fun, tekken 8 now for me became the most fun fighting game because this special style mode.

[@nickochioneantony9288]

OG casual here... I used the SS, and for newcomers, it's actually great! It helped my little brother to get into the game... But eventually you will turn it off because when you pull out a move out of muscle memory, the feeling of accomplishment is simply satisfying

[@LonesomeSparrow7]

If a strong move is balanced by requiring strong execution to pull if off, then putting that move on a single button doesn't feel right.

[@soopahcaboose]

I don't think I can as a Kaz player. I just imagine Kazya saying "pathetic..." if i cheated out an electric. Learning the execution IS part of the character I chose.

[@dark__angel__9150]

Honestly I'd prefer to not be a special style especially in ranking where ppl are doing honest grind(except boosters and hackers)where they are putting the fruits of their training to the test

[@tickledeggz]

Also some characters have near inescapbale juggles (yes im bad) availiable through this, one of the bears (i dunno which one because ot was a stupid ass custom skin) can launch you and then leap at you to spon you again with like 2 buttons over and over.

[@pedoyam]

I just started playing and use it for the electric, don't see the need for all the other stuff tbh. Getting consistent with the electric frame timing as someone new to controllers and fighting games will probably take me months. Doing 15 mins of practice a day but happy I have something to use until I get good!

[@Pekaman66]

I kind of thought of turning it off earlier today while trying to learn Kazuya. I don’t really use special style so I mapped it to pressing down on the left stick. While I’m trying to practice the electric wind god fist input I start using the left stick instead of the d pad to see if it would help my timing and I accidentally press it down and press triangle. This is when I figured out that the first move in the special air combo was the exact move I was practicing for an hour. If I ever map the button to the bumper again maybe it might be worth it to use it just for that move 😅.

[@rancersweirdness]

I play mishimas and the problem is for good combos, u need 2 back to back electrics its fine if u mess one up because itll still work but if u use the assist electric then u only get 1 and thats a significant amount of less dmg

[@Gayonetta5000]

Yeah the first few matches I had, I completely discredited it as a threat. 10 seconds later I got absolutely bodied lmao

[@samuelvanetten4324]

This is very interesting! Because I've been playing tekken from the first one. And I really love the game but execution was always the part what held me back. Could you perhaps test taunt jet upper with Bryan Fury

[@JokeZ1337]

Was playing against a devil jin in orange ranks who used only special style. you don't know how f'ing distracting it actually is to see this menu which covers part of the character model aswell, depending on the move... .

[@andremyers6902]

I just don’t get people complaining about something in the game if your good as you say you is it shouldn’t even matter how people play the game

[@jaxirraywhisper741]

As Azucena main I feel flattered that she is target dummy at every single scene :D

[@Arnuld15Governator]

Had a Raven that spammed special style which was a leg sweep and won against me. On certain characters it's pretty strong and can even elevate players to intermediate ranks.

[@mrslappyface8316]

I don't mind Special Style existing. I think it's a great thing for casual players who just want to mash buttons and have a good time. I do wish people had to commit to it being either on or off for the full length of the match, though. Personally just not a fan of people being able to switch back and forth. I like Modern mode being available for people in SF6 too. But it would be extremely annoying if players could switch it on and off whenever they want an instant, 1-button special.

[@KevinDFuller94]

I've always played as Mishimas and I hate this easy mode thing. Tekken has always been a game that rewards execution this makes things way too easy in my opinion.

[@xyzen9673]

SS "electrics" are actually slower than just doing proper electrics... like 3 frame startup slower, which might not sound a lot, but it can either be a punish, or not.

[@rooflemonger]

yeah, i kinda spend a lot of the video talking about it, and its more like 1-2 frames even when you are FAST, which more than makes them worth it

[@kayanims]

I will try it for combo extensions

[@Mumaakil]

Modern is way better at making the game accessible without learning inputs then it is at carrying a noob to win the match. so I think its good and fine but maybe a bit too good. atleast u can still make classic inputs but I think tekken8 did a better job these controls are far more limited but they are not actually that bad especially at a low level. I really like what tekken did he to make the game accessible, and the "downsides" were things said for modern in SF6 and look how that turned out. I think these controls are a tool you can "abuse" if you are a smart player and you should since they are in the game.

[@frankbauerful]

Wouldn't it be fun if this led to mind games, where a player uses special style for a certain move a couple times to train the opponent to expect a certain move when the window pops up and then the player fakes it by quickly toggling special style on and off just to make the opponent expect the move. Like a shimmy.

[@ericgrose9403]

Othought about the implications of special style and tried some of it and it has potentia. I was saying this to myself during the cbt. It is an untapped resource for possible strategy. I’ll look more into one day but right now I’m just enjoying tekken 8.

[@tickledeggz]

"Untapped resource for potential strategy" is the most creative way I've ever seen anyone describe legal hacks.

[@ens0246]

As soon as I played the demo i was like "I wonder, and I hope, that they put some mad thing in where a year from now we'll see some maniac shifting between modes for optimal combos." But I dont have the knowledge on this game to have been able to tell if it was just baby mode or not. I hope some mad shit is ahead of us!

[@seanblack5789]

Game needs heat waaaay toned down,and rage arts removed from rank as well. Scrubs are using their one button combos getting wrecked,then you cant touch em cause they will use their i win button and pretend they amazingly outplayed you. Now they have heat,u cant attack,they get to spam endless 50 50s, chip damage too,and still dont attack....you jab? BOOM rage art. They then use their one button super move as heat bar dwindles and get 50% of ur bar. You get up throw a punch,rage art. You lose Game is so tailored to babies its absolute bull s hit. I find it hard to score in fifa so i want a 5-0 headstart and a auto score button. No i dont need to practise and git gud,if the babies dont have to in tekken

[@kungpao56]

fr its sickening that their dumbing down everything just to appease the pppl who were never gonna play it in the 1st place.

[@TechRoll123]

You also get access to moves while you are crouching, that you cannot execute with normal style. I'm sure someone will come out a broken strat and they will ban this

[@ens0246]

Cant ban it. Its not a character. Instant DQ if you switch to special style? That would be awful.

[@GhostsGraveYT]

​@@ens0246or just un map it on the controls dumdum

[@georgelucas8815]

Tekken 8 is probably my favorite new age fighting game of all time! I don’t even get angry as much when playing online as I did with other fighting games

[@Jdieseltekken]

I think the only people who actually care about people using special style are the people who are actually garbage lol This is my first tekken actually playing and I’m a Bryan in Fujin, I switch through special mode mid combo and people get mad lol

[@Krando_]

Special style for kaz ewgf (less so for reina as she has df2 and DVJ + Jin as they have d3+4) is pretty bad for him, his only launcher from standing is ewgf, this means anything -17 he cant launch, and 1 of the most famous -17 moves is the mishima flashpunch (112). Granted that string should not be finished if the 2 hits dont hit, but sometimes people do finish it, so for Kaz i dont rate it.

[@clownworld4655]

Tmw you button mash regardless of the control style… I’m a tekken newb though and at least I’m starting to feel like I’m button mashing a little less than before

[@Tentacl]

I hate those modes. I understand they are meant to easy new players into those games, but they shouldn't ever be available in ladder play. I'm a bad/tryhard player and losing to people I KNOW are playing another game really ruins my day.

[@ProGaming12772]

You can do multiple combos with it they don’t really tell you about. You have to figure it out yourself

[@propilot13]

for dragunov, his blue sparks are important for chip damage

[@showercurtaintowel]

I like the theory. I'll give it a shot. Just switch it up and try to stay upredicatble!

[@kylespevak6781]

Easy mode? Having single tap combos is like the C-stick in Smash. Sure, using the control stick and button macro does the same and has the advantage of charging, but C-stick comes in handy as a quick input to make sure it's not missed

[@ThePoodle]

no, these two things are not similar.

[@DarkMoonAly]

Yes, it is easy mode and you can say what you want, being able to do 3 electrics in a row by simply hitting the triangle once, it seems criminal to me and you have the proof in TD Kazuya and Angel Jin, those fights if you play on hard and without assistance they break you in 3 but if you play on hard and use the assistance you laugh in the faces of the enemies, therefore it is the easy mode

[@jesse76th96]

If someone does this at Evo Grand finals does that count as a win?

[@CryingWolf916]

well yeah why not you can cry about all you want thats just how it is

[@Zachebi]

Sure doing 1 electric reliably is fine, but hitting someone with 5-6 doryas in a row because they dont know to tech roll is a pretty magical feeling and you wont achieve that relying on special style.

[@Zachebi]

In essence, you’re sugarcoating it

[@brentearnshaw4935]

Tried thid alot in demo. In short; this is slower like when using a kazuya using a ewgf after df2; it wont connect. Good thing is a sidestep electric will be 100 percent dangerous. Good luck mishima mains

[@dechuggs9129]

I thought you were gonna say that you can block punish -13/14 with electrics but this really isn’t that good. Even though you can do a consistent electric it will be very predictable, only being able to do it from standing so no back dash, sidestep or dash electrics that would be quicker than doing it manually. Same with drag’s running 2, I also believe that the recovery of the move is different compared to doing it manually. If I whiff an electric I can’t do a follow up electric to clip people running in.

[@dupla0392]

You can reach to the screen flash as you see them use that mode Like I can easily react to Kings ff,*,2 if they use special style, and that low is easily unseeable normally.

[@Honir4]

2 frame difference is the difference betwin you punishing someone with electric or you just getting ur electric blocked

[@rikyoh130]

Mishima are proud beasts... should never use assist

[@paprikagames]

i saw a king only spamming the same move constantly and it was almost unblockable atleast i couldnt block 1 it was like i ran against his arm that was his grab or counter or something really weird

[@bananasean5145]

Ive challenged myself from the beginning learning this game without it. I get kinda annoyed when im win 2 rounds in a row and ill see the competitor turn this on.

[@DreBagsGaming]

I love the special style, i don't use it and made it to garyu rank but the way it helps new players like me is good, but its not like sf6 and hand hold u till the point u don't have to learn the game which is great also

[@MatthewzonMatthewzon]

Special style makes the game great. The combat is so clanky without it back even on ps2 and it was just atrocious to behold. With this it feels more Dead or alive which is great.

[@princevegeta3569]

I've fought a couple ppl in ranked who used the "easy mode". Some relied on it whereas others used it in certain situations. Annoying to deal with 😂😅

[@OhNoTheFace]

Tired of the baby modes in fighting games going into ranked

[@GoogleAccount-jn5qb]

tired of people complaining.

[@darkninja9499]

​@@GoogleAccount-jn5qbtired of people who can't play properly

[@jakeLapasaran-c5d]

I am new at tekken and so far having fun but it sucks when this game have this kind of issues. i started practicing by fighting ghosts in the arcade mode. tried to learn moves without the aid of a special move feature. when I tried rank it is just so weird it was allowed. if a move requires a specific execution and you can do it just by pressing a button then technically you are not considered a beginner at all. and if it is allowed, why bother having an option of doing it the hardway? I played rank with an expectation I will be matched to those who has the same issue as me, a beginner. dropping combos because of misinputs, wrong sidestep decisions, low reaction to grab etc. to me its part of the learning process and fun. but yeah... getting good is the only option but from time to time i don't want to play against AI all the time.

[@WhatAMagician]

I wish games would stop adding this stuff. Takes all the fun out of learning how to really play and reduces skill. Either make everyone use modern or no one. Stop being cowards and putting in both

[@orbbb24]

Something I didn't think of was swapping from SS to regular. I'm not a serious fighting game player and I probably won't be playing come summer time (so many fun games coming out, how can I just grind Tekken?). This seems like the way for someone like me to play. People are going to be haters. I played M in SF6, I'm going to play a mix of SS and regular in T8. Here I come!

[@kungpao56]

might as well stop laying now if your already planning on dropping the game in the next 2-3 months srub

[@orbbb24]

@@kungpao56 But I'm having fun... Why would I stop? It's ok to just have fun with a game for a couple months.

[@Stunion_D_Onion]

As a first time tekken player who avoids special style it’s a bit discouraging to face someone using it in ranked. Here I am spending all of my training time between matches practicing electrics when a Jin player turns on special style and does 2 in a row by button mashing. There have been quite a few games where I’m winning by a reasonable margin and my opponent switches on special and instantly comes back. I personally wouldn’t mind it in casual matches but it’s definitely disheartening to come across in ranked.

[@protectbabysif]

While this is true, special style basically choreographs what they are going to do next because its the same combo every time. Instead of thinking about how much easier it is for them to execute, just learn how to punish the thing they are throwing out all the time and it won't even matter anymore. It is that simple

[@Shin-iv6yc]

@@protectbabysif Or you make it optional for people to avoid Special Style users in ranked matches. Thats even more simple.

[@pian-0g445]

@@protectbabysifespecially as many are not too hard to punish or have many parts in the combo they can be punished at.

[@franchisethebull]

Bro I just want to play this game somewhat casually somewhat seriously just play for fun and learn my character and I hate this special shit it doesn't feel like modern in SF it feels like they have a calculator in algebra class and you only got paper

[@failer4126]

What happens if you do this electric during a wavedash

[@rooflemonger]

then you just get the electric anyways

[@billyn7757]

Tekken 7 had something similar with assist mode. Now im not sure if this is the same as what we have in 8 but you can customize what moves you can have in the assist menu. I never used it so i cant confirm if you can do easy ewgfs in 7 like this. But i do know assist mode does work online in 7.

[@brandonsantoso]

Wouldn’t buy the game if it didn’t have special style. Dpad sucks for fighting games and I don’t care for stick..but this makes it better. Special Style will stay.

[@AgentGhostReal]

It’s great for new comers. But it’s very predictable once you graduate from it. Yesterday, I fought a devil jin abusing power crush with it so I just grabbed dude continuously and bro was not teaching the throws. Shit was hilarious 😂

[@Dajmahal1]

Wow, it's like you can start a combo and finish with special style so you don't tdrop it. Or expand the combo further.

[@ProGaming12772]

This is good I don’t use it but I know how to use it I just do the combos that I turned it off into my own combos after it it’s really good why people are hating on it I really don’t care about rank I just played regular matches and go against good people

[@Blind_Death]

You can tell when people are mashing cause the menu turns on and off accidently hitting the bumper lol.

[@Blind_Death]

Also it's the most powerful mode in the game, if you turn it on while your opponents wifi starts cutting out you can still win.