Tekken | Roster Duster

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The4thSnake

The4thSnake

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@thesteamguy6171
@thesteamguy6171 3 жыл бұрын
>dragunov has to go >katarina stays I almost took this seriously.
@natanmayugen8251
@natanmayugen8251 3 жыл бұрын
Wtf. Kat broken. That's why she is lower in all fucking tier list than dragunov the poke God Listen I can understand u not liking Kat. But as Drag she got a huge amount of fans who stay loyal even if she is weak.
@Iqzzy-KO
@Iqzzy-KO 3 жыл бұрын
He removed Lars!
@RanOutOfSpac
@RanOutOfSpac 3 жыл бұрын
@Heavy Metal Collector Easy doesn’t really mean broken. She’s just incredibly simple compared to the rest of the cast. That said, I’d have no problem seeing her go. Dragunov is cool as heck so he’d best stay.
@ivantsarevitch337
@ivantsarevitch337 3 жыл бұрын
@Heavy Metal Collector katarinas model was used for the bikini girls in the beach paradise stage.
@justinang5231
@justinang5231 3 жыл бұрын
I feel like Anna has so much potential to grow as a character if only she wasn’t just reduced to a satellite character for Nina.
@Wiki1184
@Wiki1184 3 жыл бұрын
*Kuma Stays* Now that’s cash money.
@Art_Lean
@Art_Lean 3 жыл бұрын
Kuma is the best tekken character
@mr.awesome6011
@mr.awesome6011 3 жыл бұрын
@@Art_Lean I wanna see more of Kuma and Paul building a friendship like in Tag 2.
@DrakeVagabond
@DrakeVagabond 3 жыл бұрын
"cut Fahkumram because I don't know anything about him" Oh you poor lost child.
@emperorjoker9240
@emperorjoker9240 3 жыл бұрын
He also said Bruce and Bryan have the same fighting style and I was like “what?!?!”
@strifefresh3998
@strifefresh3998 3 жыл бұрын
@@emperorjoker9240 exactly he's bugging TF out with that part
@ThrashMetalWolf666
@ThrashMetalWolf666 3 жыл бұрын
@@emperorjoker9240 He's mostly likely one of those people who think Kickboxing, and Muay Thai are the same thing. Obviously Bryan is completely different from Bruce since Bruce is more akin to Muay Thai with some Muay Boran.
@Iqzzy-KO
@Iqzzy-KO 3 жыл бұрын
He removed Lars!
@RanOutOfSpac
@RanOutOfSpac 3 жыл бұрын
@@emperorjoker9240 Bryan took Bruce’s moves when he was introduced in Tekken 3 I believe. So not too far off? Though they are very different now, they do share Muay Thai/Kick boxing moves.
@JarvisBaileyVA
@JarvisBaileyVA 3 жыл бұрын
King is my favorite tekken character in terms of his story. An angry orphan taken in by the first King who unfortunately loses his life. The orphan takes up the King mantle but needs training from Armor King who also loses his life to Craig Marduk. King 2 attempts revenge on Marduk but sees that taking another man from his family is no better. Marduk eventually challenges King 2 again but loses once more and King 2 extends his hand in friendship and the two become partners. And there's even more.
@whyareyoureadingmynickname8158
@whyareyoureadingmynickname8158 3 жыл бұрын
Honestly, the only T7 character that I would keep is Leeroy. I mean, dude is an old man who fights for justice, is a pretty good rapper and has a dog. You can't get much more awesome than that.
@kevingriffith6011
@kevingriffith6011 3 жыл бұрын
I do think that Leroy is a *great* character design, the only problem he was so overtuned and dominant that everyone hates him now, kinda like Rashid.
@lukejones7164
@lukejones7164 3 жыл бұрын
@@kevingriffith6011 Leroy has been nerfed heavily in Season 4
@kevingriffith6011
@kevingriffith6011 3 жыл бұрын
@@lukejones7164 Trouble is that the hate tends to stay a while, even after the character has been nerfed. More people would be eager to see Elaina come back in a hypothetical street fighter game if she wasn't so dominant in Ultra 4, for example.
@mineflameblade8788
@mineflameblade8788 3 жыл бұрын
Leeroy deserves to stay. But with a completely reworked move set.
@Windows11Sucks
@Windows11Sucks 2 жыл бұрын
Imagine they pull a Tekken 5 jin on Leroy when Tekken 8 comes
@mr.awesome6011
@mr.awesome6011 3 жыл бұрын
"Dust Thins Out" is the true theme of the Tekken series.
@saninpain
@saninpain 3 жыл бұрын
Considering its "Dist Thins Out" you must not like it that much
@columbatiberius2176
@columbatiberius2176 3 жыл бұрын
In Tekken 8 they'll bring back Heihachi... 's moveset in a new waifu character in the form of Heihachi's genderswapped clone. *Two Years Later...* "From the past to the present to eternity, I am Nostradamus!" Now if I could just guess the Lottery Numbers... *Three Years Later...* Heihachi Moveset Waifu followed by a returning Heihachi. Tag 3 is going have a roster that is 50% Mishima Family...
@zuufettegt133
@zuufettegt133 3 жыл бұрын
Only if they keep the hair.
@FireStormDel
@FireStormDel 3 жыл бұрын
Or stupidly, they'll go the route of Heihachi clone in story, but they'll use it as an excuse to let it be the younger looking Heihachi as seen in Tag 2.
@Artryom
@Artryom 3 жыл бұрын
I will burn my console or PC when that day comes in a fair response...
@sketchstevens5859
@sketchstevens5859 3 жыл бұрын
They could just bring in a clone like Devil Within from T5
@kingsman5121
@kingsman5121 9 ай бұрын
Well you were half right
@Doralga
@Doralga 3 жыл бұрын
Agree with most of your picks except Alex over roger and Eliza long life span gives her Juicy story interaction such as fighting ancient Mishima's and Hachijo's during her adolescence
@candasturan4559
@candasturan4559 3 жыл бұрын
I can definetly see the frustration from the perspective of Asuka players towards Lili when it comes to her story. But to be honest it's not like Asuka doesn't like to put her nose into the business of others. So I kinda like how Lili is returning the favor lol Lili is clearly a character of extreme, who is either beloved or hated. I personally like her. Yes she is arrogant and nosy and a bit of a brat but all these traits suit her charcter and make her somewhat likeable. Also I personally like the Asuka Lili dynamic.. Nevertheless really interesting and nice list😊 The more the roster grows the more difficult it gets to separate the good from the bad and see which ones are worth staying.
@ivantsarevitch337
@ivantsarevitch337 3 жыл бұрын
"Dosent like to put her nose in other people's buisness" Literly goes after her cousin after he started ww3.
@sketchstevens5859
@sketchstevens5859 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, but she does deal with highschool disputes as shown in her TT2 ending. They honestly could bring in younger fighters that way. A Baki or Kiichi Miyazawa style character that doesn't respect Jun would be a better rival
@ivantsarevitch337
@ivantsarevitch337 3 жыл бұрын
@@sketchstevens5859 the fuck did Jun do?
@sketchstevens5859
@sketchstevens5859 3 жыл бұрын
@@ivantsarevitch337 Remember when she's handling the rival delinquent gangs in Tekken Tag 2
@sketchstevens5859
@sketchstevens5859 3 жыл бұрын
@@ivantsarevitch337 Remember when she's handling the rival delinquent gangs in Tekken Tag 2
@RC99_Productions
@RC99_Productions 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for keeping my boy King in. He's always been my favourite Tekken character since the first Tekken game I ever played, Tekken Tag 1, which is also one of my favourite fighting games ever.
@ALLSTAR5498
@ALLSTAR5498 3 жыл бұрын
I believe Xiaoyu and Wang are actually related, In Tekken 5 there’s a victory line of him asking her for dinner and they also exchange lines I believe. And in Tekken 6 scenario campaigners acknowledged again I believe
@blindbeholder9713
@blindbeholder9713 3 жыл бұрын
I think Eliza could be leveraged for a Soul Calibur reference. It's a little silly that all the hints at that shared universe come from Soul Calibur, with Tekken never returning the favor.
@ryanfriscia1132
@ryanfriscia1132 3 жыл бұрын
I'd love to see this done for MvC! You'd probably have to do a dedicated video for each side, but you can a have a lot of fun with the large rosters.
@ryansinbela6396
@ryansinbela6396 3 жыл бұрын
I wanted to ask him about what his ideal MVC roster is with new characters included
@The4thSnake
@The4thSnake 3 жыл бұрын
Falcon and Masamune are musts.
@kevingriffith6011
@kevingriffith6011 3 жыл бұрын
Why do I feel like it would be better as a "who would I put into a MvC game" rather than a roster duster. More potential there for interesting takes, I think.
@ryansinbela6396
@ryansinbela6396 3 жыл бұрын
Also Nero
@KeyBladeMaster-Dan
@KeyBladeMaster-Dan 3 жыл бұрын
@@The4thSnake Falcon would be awesome my must is definitely Scarlet Witch still shocked she wasn't in Infinite CAPCOM side any Baker XD
@Elsa_Jay
@Elsa_Jay 3 жыл бұрын
You doing this reminded me of your channel again. I love when old channels I don't watch for awhile get more vids in my feed Happy Valentine's, Snake.
@The4thSnake
@The4thSnake 3 жыл бұрын
Happy Valentine's. Welcome back.
@user-gj3fb7pq1w
@user-gj3fb7pq1w 3 жыл бұрын
@@The4thSnake Happy late valentine day you fucking snake
@kevinbalfe
@kevinbalfe 3 жыл бұрын
I love how pissed you were when Shershah guessed right first try when you told him to guess what fighting game would get a roster duster on the podcast.
@nuthella5251
@nuthella5251 3 жыл бұрын
1:55 Being a Bruce main must be nothing but suffering. Imagine falling in love with the character in Tekken 2 only to see him immediately get replaced the very next game by Bryan. You finally get him back 3 games later with Tekken 5, things are looking up again, he gets more story relevance in 6 as well... And then he gets replaced AGAIN in 7 by Josie this time. And just when his fans start to see a glimmer of hope with legacy characters returning, including some like Marduk who had supposedly been replaced by new characters... Fahkumram happens and puts the final nail in the coffin. This guy didn't get replaced once or twice, but THRICE. 2:52 I like to imagine that when choosing the characters for Tekken 7 the devs suddenly realized "Oh crap, we've cut off about half of the female cast, what do we do ???" and they had to come up with female version of some of the males to try and even out the roster. 7:58 When you realize the entire Mishima feud could have been avoided if Kazumi didn't create a self-fullfiling prophecy... Not to mention that her being the one responsible for the devil gene existing now means that Jin's already shitty idea of starting WWIII in T6 was completely unnecessary and avoidable since it turns out Azazel had jack shit to do with gene in the first place. And while we're talking about things Kazumi brought to the table... Wth Akuma ? You respect her enough to keep your promise to kill Heihachi and Kazuya should she fail... But not enough to fulfill that promise BEFORE the conflict Kazumi was trying to avoid went on for 30 years ?! 12:30 My problem with Feng is that they try to build him up as this super threatening power house... But the games never allow him to become an actual threat to anyone. Starting from Tekken 6 his two rivals, Asuka and Lei, just move on because they've got to deal with WWIII and there's nobody left to care about what Feng could do because any attempts he would make at being a serious antagonist would immediately get overshadowed by the Mishimas playing "Who can screw over the entire earth the most ?". Hopefully they actually do something with him next game, but with Jin and Kazuya still around, that's not very likely. (Unpopular opinion, but I really like Chloe on paper for being a two-faced bitch pretending to be a kawaii neko girl for the masses. Though I really wish she had been implemented better and didn't have to royally piss off every Eddy mains)
@ivantsarevitch337
@ivantsarevitch337 3 жыл бұрын
Well Bryan became more and more of his own character since Tekken 4 with his taunt and and weird inputs. And the fans made him accidentally Iconic. The whole azazel thing is confusing. Like they never show a future where azazel does something bad so essentially we have no clue how dangerous it is. Also technically jin made situation only worse because azazel has now a human host. And also Kazuya also had the devil gene so he should have none what the fuck was going on. Feng is kinda like Bryan at this point where they just keep him for the gameplay but dont know what tf to do with him.
@cloudnovalab
@cloudnovalab 3 жыл бұрын
18:07 possible ways of Heihachi in Tekken 8: - We'll get him as a pre-order/DLC probably, but not canon in the story(just like Tekken 5) - A new character inherits his moveset(I really don't know) - REVEAL OF ROBO HEIHACHI THE BEST CHARACTER EVER MADE! Like in T5 Devil Within, but this time could be the Mishima Zaibatsu, after the death of Heihachi, to use robot clones of him
@monkeybone1080
@monkeybone1080 3 жыл бұрын
As an Asuka main your rage at Lily is welcome indeed. Also to add onto your tekken plans how about a shout out for the death of character specific stages? that extra layer of characterization was always so good like King's Church, Lei's Skyscraper, Jun's field, and so on. I'm not a fan of these random stages with music that would make a wubstep fan vomit.
@FireStormDel
@FireStormDel 3 жыл бұрын
You could argue the whole "personalised stages" thing died in Tekken Tag 1 since while they were just the Tekken 3 stages with graphical rehauls, characters were never locked to those stages, which is likely because of the Tag gimmick and the fact not every character would have a unique stage doesn't help either, since Tekken 3 reused stages for the bonus characters. Plus the PS1 exclusive stages for Gon and Bosconovitch weren't carried over either, though I put that down to them not being in the arcade original that Tag 1 was mostly built off of, whereas the school, I think was in the arcade original, it just wouldn't have been on you'd have seen often. Really, it'd be nice had they gone the extra mile to create new stages based on the Tekken 1 and 2 stages with unique tracks for Tag 1's PS2 version, I'd have taken them over the variants of some stages like Eddy's being at different times of day, or Law's being at different parts of a shaolin temple.
@thetruej7872
@thetruej7872 3 жыл бұрын
For me I'll just take out Lucky Chloe
@Doralga
@Doralga 3 жыл бұрын
Josie the same thing just not as annoying
@makeomengreatagain
@makeomengreatagain 3 жыл бұрын
Kunimitsu also
@thetruej7872
@thetruej7872 3 жыл бұрын
I'd love for Tekken X Street Fighter to be created
@thesilentsociety3252
@thesilentsociety3252 3 жыл бұрын
Soul Calibur 6 might’ve been the final nail in the coffin that it never coming, Harada stated around the time Tekken 7 Retribution was announced. That if it was going to happen if would’ve happen a long time ago, that maybe after T7 was finished. but we ended up with SC6 instead
@moccamane2402
@moccamane2402 3 жыл бұрын
Keep Bruce and Claudio imo. Bruce is literally Kazuya's Only friend and him vs eddy would be cool. And Claudio demon hunting storyline could be interesting may even resurrect Heihachi. Please for tekken 8 make Paul a serious threat again.
@lukejones7164
@lukejones7164 3 жыл бұрын
Also because of Lili's popularity I don't think they'll cut Eliza either because of story connections
@RanOutOfSpac
@RanOutOfSpac 3 жыл бұрын
As much as I love Bryan, he hasn’t been the same for me since his VA change. Bruce is my boy and I want him back.
@thesilentsociety3252
@thesilentsociety3252 3 жыл бұрын
I sense a Raidou style return for Heihachi in T8
@LA-be8fu
@LA-be8fu 3 жыл бұрын
Honestly, I'm thinking of making a list specifically made for a Street Fighter Roster Duster. I've binged this series a few times already since I just really enjoy the concept, so it'd be neat to make a list to help peeps! Even if Tiermaker's a bit of a pain when it comes to making stuff.
@LoneTaurus82
@LoneTaurus82 3 жыл бұрын
Happy to see Zafina. She has been my main since she was added to Tekken 7.They nailed her redesign and she does have alot of story potential with the Azazel hand/powers lore added to her. She seemed somewhat odd to me in past games but they made her very interesting this time around. I've always been a fan of King too. Wouldnt be a Tekken game without him.
@Seoul_Soldier
@Seoul_Soldier 3 жыл бұрын
Disagree on Devil Kazuya being removed. He's literally the original devil character and deserves to stay. Other than that I agree with your choices.
@emperorjoker9240
@emperorjoker9240 3 жыл бұрын
Didn’t agree with all your picks but, great video. Also there’s a huge difference between kickboxing(Bryan) and Muai Thai(Bruce).
@DemomanX614
@DemomanX614 3 жыл бұрын
Wtf, Gon is a legend.
@DrakeVagabond
@DrakeVagabond 3 жыл бұрын
Tekken had clones in Tekken 5
@TTRPGSarvis
@TTRPGSarvis 3 жыл бұрын
I think Dragonball Fighterz deserves a Roster Duster next. Then again, if you cut out all but one Goku, and all but one Vegeta, you've already halved the roster.
@seantaylor424
@seantaylor424 3 жыл бұрын
To be fair, Asuka interferes in Lili's story just as much as vice-versa...Granted, Lili didn't have AS MUCH going on as Asuka could have had, but I'd also say that Lili lost more of her individuality than Asuka did when they were paired up. Personally, I like the Asuka-Lili thing going on, but I would have made it a side-trait of the characters, not make it their entire reasons for entering tournaments and all of their endings; like how Yoshimitsu is disappointed in Ganryu, but he always has a main story going on without him. I do, however, agree that Tekken's been downhill ever since T5...Like, I think T4 was the last good story in the series and T5 is when it started to get weird.
@moncay3238
@moncay3238 Жыл бұрын
I’d say Tekken 6 is when the series went downhill in terms of story since they started focusing on characters like Lars and Alisa which ruined the whole point of the story of that game which is supposed to be Jin and Kazuya going to war with each other.
@saorlathesurly
@saorlathesurly 3 жыл бұрын
I dunno whether this has been officially said or not, but Fahkumram is such a dead ringer for Jack Hanma from Baki the Grappler.
@KurosakiNaturo
@KurosakiNaturo 3 жыл бұрын
I never looked at it this way but now that you say it I can't unsee it. Also, Yujiro in Tekken when?
@saorlathesurly
@saorlathesurly 3 жыл бұрын
Honestly, I think a whole game of Kengan Ashura/Omega in the Tekken engine would work really well.
@KurosakiNaturo
@KurosakiNaturo 3 жыл бұрын
@@saorlathesurly Both Kengan and Baki series done in the Tekken engine would be absolutely wild. My wallet would start crying the moment a trailer came out of Baki and Retsu 1v1'ing in a 3D arena.
@i_will_not_elaborate
@i_will_not_elaborate 3 жыл бұрын
I'd wager that a bunch of people complained about Julia/Michelle's character being too stereotypical, that being Native-American women trying to save nature and all that. I can see why people wouldn't like that but I don't personally think there's anything wrong with it BUT I do think they can tone down the costume design. Michelle can have both Native and Chinese costumes as she is canonically half-Chinese but I don't see any reason for Julia to wear Native clothing because she was only adopted by Michelle and we don't know what her actual ethnicity is. Her design only makes sense in regards of her adopted mother/predecessor. But then again, stereotypical nature girl is definitely WAY better than twitch thot.
@xtremearts8668
@xtremearts8668 2 жыл бұрын
As a Dragunov main, I wholeheartedly disagree with your video. After his first debut in Tekken 5: DR, he appeared again in the next two games afterwards, becoming a popular and fan-favorite character among the roster (Lili as well as they are well-received thanks to their unique design and fun gameplay styles). Despite his storyline isn't really that fleshed out with the half-assed rivalry nonsense with Raven, he was still a genuinely interesting character and had potential to be in the plot but Namco wasted it in every chance they get, no fcks given and basically shoving a middle finger at us in T7; giving such terrible endings to side characters that aren't Mishima-related such as him. Its been three games of him reappearing in the main roster and he doesn't get any character development whatsoever. So removing him altogether in the next game after receiving such praise from fans throughout the years is just not the ideal option to do (hell, he's the reason I got into the Tekken franchise as of recently), and from what I could gather that most Tekken players doesn't want to see Katarina, Eliza or mostly dlc characters again in 8 since all of them are criticized for plentiful amount of reasons. All in all, your video is somewhat agreeable and subjective to the point. As long as they don't remove him and the others that became a staple character after their introduction into the series (Asuka, Lili, and characters ranging from Tekken 1-6) and avoid creating poor character changes like Julia in T7, then Tekken 8 would work just fine.
@meekhailbrahma4650
@meekhailbrahma4650 2 жыл бұрын
I agree with most of the things you said but except for few. I prefer Julia over Jaycee because Julia is original, while Jaycee is just her friend's identity who met with an accident and is injured and cannot fight, so Julia dressed as her friend and fought on her behalf. I also think Lili should stay but her rivalry with Asuka should be ended with a friendship or just go their separate ways to achieve their goals. Lars and Alisa should also stay as they have already progressed a lot in the main story. Cut Kuma because fighting bear just makes no sense. Cut Heihachi as well because he truly dies in Tekken 7 (And no "he is too strong for the volcano to just die and somehow survived for the 3rd time" shit this time please Namco). You can bring a student of Heihachi to replace him by giving his moveset though but I have no idea what his story would be.
@pious83
@pious83 3 жыл бұрын
I'm sure there is a Wasted Plotential in there for the Jack robots. For example, P.Jack has been a main of mine since T2. But, in seven games since (including Tag 1 & 2) what was he a prototype for? None of the regular Jacks ever resemble him. Plus why was he never perfected? I also really liked Ogre from T3. Not True Ogre, though. Ogre had a really good moveset that was a good selection of previous fighter moves. It is a shame each final boss became more nonsensical than the last after T4.
@niklasekelof7319
@niklasekelof7319 3 жыл бұрын
the OG Kunimitsu gets to stay and the new one has to go. Instant like!
@OHWOWSUNLIGHT
@OHWOWSUNLIGHT 3 жыл бұрын
What was your favorite tekken? Mine was tekken 5
@jcjc592
@jcjc592 3 жыл бұрын
Mines TTT2
@ashyflame
@ashyflame 3 жыл бұрын
For the 4th snake is definitely tekken3
@The4thSnake
@The4thSnake 3 жыл бұрын
Didn't I say in the video? 5DR.
@KeyBladeMaster-Dan
@KeyBladeMaster-Dan 3 жыл бұрын
A man of culture I see
@lukejones7164
@lukejones7164 3 жыл бұрын
Mine is Tag 1
@ZatotheFiend
@ZatotheFiend 3 жыл бұрын
Lucky Chloe is the perfect example of a Wacky Character done Wrong, and one that deserves all the hatred she gets Other wacky characters Like F.A.N.G. From SFV And Sylvie Paula Paula from KOF XIV, who are hated precisely for being Weird and wacky are SO MUCH better, the first one being the only reason why Shadaloo is threatening again since Alpha and then Sylvie being a Rejected NESTS Experiment which already ties her to many other Characters yet doesn't interfere with them
@lukejones7164
@lukejones7164 3 жыл бұрын
@Arturo Henrik Chloe isn't intended to be cool and edgy at all. She's a troll/gag character
@sonicanvaspost6867
@sonicanvaspost6867 2 жыл бұрын
@@lukejones7164 yet the bears can do a better job as gag characters than her
@lukejones7164
@lukejones7164 3 жыл бұрын
There's no way Lili will ever be dropped from the series due to her popularity, neither will Dragonov and especially Eliza for similar reasons.
@Kuro_Tama
@Kuro_Tama 3 жыл бұрын
Eliza? She's literally the least picked character in the entire game, no one cares about her, even developers. And that's coming from an Eliza main, lol
@lukejones7164
@lukejones7164 3 жыл бұрын
@@Kuro_Tama At least a 3rd of the cast is less picked than Eliza. Eliza was brought back from T:Revolution to T7 because of popularity (character wise), Harada said so. Plus, she gets tons of fanart.
@Kuro_Tama
@Kuro_Tama 3 жыл бұрын
@@lukejones7164 That's completely false, just check Eliza's pick rate during 1,2 and 3 seasons, she's bottom 5 all the time. Harara brought her back, because T Revolution made some money for them, that's it. The majority of T7 playerbase didn't even bought her
@lukejones7164
@lukejones7164 3 жыл бұрын
@@Kuro_Tama You got a source on that?
@lukejones7164
@lukejones7164 3 жыл бұрын
@This Is What Awesome Looks Like That's because most of the playerbase don't like to use hard characters unless they are Mishimas. Its the same reason Lee's playbase is low like Eliza's. And I was talking about popular as a character, not popular as in most picked or played with. For example, Jacuqi Briggs has one of the largest player bases in both MKX and MK11 but almost no one is a fan of her character lmao.
@wompastompa3692
@wompastompa3692 3 жыл бұрын
I'd just keep in all the big manly men/robots like Ogre, Bob, Dragunov, and Paul. Gachimuchi is love, Gachimuchi is life.
@MusicoftheDamned
@MusicoftheDamned 3 жыл бұрын
I laughed at the start when I saw Geese in "Ew Guests" and briefly confused him with Bryan, which goes to show who I would remove. I don't even hate Bryan or anything extreme. I just dislike that he's a one-note asshole who Yoshimitsu is unfortunately never going to be allowed to actually get revenge on due to popularity, which has always annoyed me since I realized it. So I would personally rather keep Bruce or even Fahkumram (or both) as "the kickboxing character" over him despite being utterly indifferent to them otherwise. Besides that, I agree with most of the keeps and the excisions even though Katarina and Gigas seem easy to drop too. The ones I'd change personally would depend on whether this dusting was for a reboot, like with the _Mortal Kombat_ one, or just going forward into _Tekken 8_ in theory. For example, if this was for a reboot, then I would keep Alisa's dumb self, if only as Bryan's replacement in the sense of "Bosconovitch experiment that goes horribly awry and screws over the Manju clan". I'd similarly keep Shaneen over Miguel in a heartbeat despite being indifferent to both just because Miguel is unfortunately tied to the stupid _Tekken 6_ plotline of "Jin starts WWIII like an idiot and somehow the Mishima Zaibatsu doesn't immediately get curbstomped by every nation on Earth and dissolved". I would definitely make Shaneen from literally any other Middle Eastern country though just because Saudi Arabia is too horrible to deserve even remotely positive representation.
@KeyBladeMaster-Dan
@KeyBladeMaster-Dan 3 жыл бұрын
Great vid again Snake pretty much agree with everything except Kazumi I dunno I really like her personally and good god who is that perfect girl and WHY IS SHE BEING WASTED ON A MOBILE GAME!!!??? Also really hope Xiao is a planned Tekken WP episodes 7 really did her dirty (And she's my favorite so I took it personally XD)
@randomteenager137
@randomteenager137 3 жыл бұрын
Iv'e been waiting for this one
@GhostFrequency2
@GhostFrequency2 3 жыл бұрын
I would personally just keep Julia and the woman that Jaycee replaced become a full blown new wrestling character.
@simpleclonetrooper2740
@simpleclonetrooper2740 3 жыл бұрын
I love Marshall more but i do agree that he may need to retire and let his son take over he is pretty under developed.
@mineflameblade8788
@mineflameblade8788 3 жыл бұрын
Tbh. Controversial opinion. But I think Giggus should be dusted and keep Murdock. His mma is pretty intriguing
@NoName-sw3be
@NoName-sw3be 3 жыл бұрын
How is this controversial.
@mineflameblade8788
@mineflameblade8788 3 жыл бұрын
@@NoName-sw3be Because there's giggus fans
@TheDigitalApple
@TheDigitalApple 3 жыл бұрын
“Eh guests” The best category
@JaevhonDouglas
@JaevhonDouglas 3 жыл бұрын
Um No
@MusicoftheDamned
@MusicoftheDamned 3 жыл бұрын
It's actually "Ew guests", which is funnier.
@jonathanhunter7670
@jonathanhunter7670 3 жыл бұрын
Anna and Steve Fox FTW!!!
@XyTeRx
@XyTeRx 3 жыл бұрын
Jinpachi didn't have devil powers he was just possesed by an evil ghost. Maybe they'd do the same to heihachi.
@JordanPorter11207
@JordanPorter11207 3 жыл бұрын
I do like this list, but the only ones I'd have to disagree with is Katarina, she doesn't really bring much to Tekken at all, I would say Jaycee, but Jaycee and Julia are the same character, with just a slightly more varied moveset, but ultimately, I don't care too much about that. Bruce, I feel should still be in the game, because they never really wrapped up or followed up on that storyline of him wanting revenge against Kazuya, after being his bodyguard either for 20 years or 20 years after being his bodyguard, I don't remember. I personally think that it could open up Bruce to feuding with the other Mishimas, like Jin, Asuka, Jun if she were to return, Lee, and then those associated or that stand against them like Nina and Miguel. Also, I would rather Taekwondo Girl be Hwoarang's new rival instead of it being Jin, because despite it being a thing from 3 onwards, it's never really brought up in a story fashion again since 5.
@lenmutt
@lenmutt 3 жыл бұрын
I don't care for Lucky Chloe, however I disagree with the sentiment that she isn't a fit mascot for G corp. I think Chloe would be an excellent distraction from G corporation's shady business and definitely a better face for a company than the obviously evil Kazuya Mishima. As for head of security thing you mentioned for that mobile character, I find it odd you stated that, but do away with Bruce Irvin who is basically G Corps. head of security.
@bakaboiirl2955
@bakaboiirl2955 3 жыл бұрын
I def feel like at some point he should have split the erase forever tier and made another tier for retirements becasue just from the tier name and who's in it it just seems like he thinks they should be thanos snapped from the timeline
@spencermiltoneditor2311
@spencermiltoneditor2311 2 жыл бұрын
I always forget there's 2 kumas
@LokiTheAnsuz
@LokiTheAnsuz 2 жыл бұрын
Alisa has great potential, she could follow the EDI inner conflict from the Mass Effect series... I'd love to see that!
@rockerboyrage1609
@rockerboyrage1609 3 жыл бұрын
I only kept Nina, Anna, King, Yoshimitsu, Jin, Forest, Kazuya, Paul, and Christie.
@christhechilled
@christhechilled 3 жыл бұрын
Finally, some quality content.
@jonssogaming8255
@jonssogaming8255 3 жыл бұрын
Slim Bob takes away what makes Bob interesting in the first place, so yeah get rid of him.
@user-gj3fb7pq1w
@user-gj3fb7pq1w 3 жыл бұрын
Slim bob is just bob when he was skinny, you dont have to play as him
@Iqzzy-KO
@Iqzzy-KO 3 жыл бұрын
You need to do a Tekken 7 Critique Snake!
@FlyXcur
@FlyXcur 3 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately Claudio might become important in Tekken 8 with him being a exorcist (hunting devil Jin) and kidnapping Xiaoyu
@ivantsarevitch337
@ivantsarevitch337 3 жыл бұрын
Well the difference between Marshall and Forrest is that Marshall has a scar and age Marks and Forrest is baby face. Make Lei and Bryan rivals again! What happens in honk kong before tekken3?
@DeathRex88
@DeathRex88 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome list. Shit now I'd like to hear what you would come up with for a Tekken 8 story with a roster like this
@jsutton0010
@jsutton0010 3 жыл бұрын
Lili has been my favourite character since Tekken 5. I would be disappointed, if she was ever removed from future Tekken games.
@Marverick1998
@Marverick1998 3 жыл бұрын
I knew my main was gonna be in the erase forever category. Lmfao
@The4thSnake
@The4thSnake 3 жыл бұрын
Who was it?
@ryansinbela6396
@ryansinbela6396 3 жыл бұрын
Do you have any ideas for any Tekken OC’s, Snake?
@The4thSnake
@The4thSnake 3 жыл бұрын
Nope.
@ryansinbela6396
@ryansinbela6396 3 жыл бұрын
Also if revenant was here would you keep him?
@The4thSnake
@The4thSnake 3 жыл бұрын
@@ryansinbela6396 Probably not.
@ebesonen
@ebesonen 3 жыл бұрын
Akuma was the only reason I played Tekken 7, if they added Kiryu from Yakuza I would have played it more
@jinkageyama1907
@jinkageyama1907 2 жыл бұрын
Omg stop the kiryu bullshit pls
@tyrkun1624
@tyrkun1624 3 ай бұрын
Watching this after Heihachi did in fact come back is very funny
@josethebeast8709
@josethebeast8709 3 жыл бұрын
I like the dinosaur gon
@Zenith8896
@Zenith8896 3 жыл бұрын
Next guest character in Tekken 8: Akira Yuki and Wolf Hawkfield from Virtua Fighter
@emperorjoker9240
@emperorjoker9240 3 жыл бұрын
It’s Wolf confirmed? Because that’s so weird representative to pick from virtual fighter.
@DoihaDX
@DoihaDX 3 жыл бұрын
come on, you know Alisa and Lars stay because they are with Jin now. Also, I like her moveset but I couldn't agree more with your reason for taking Lili out.
@upjohn1715
@upjohn1715 3 жыл бұрын
Great video I personally would have kept Alex over Roger Jr. and I do not like Kuma because of how much he degraded Paul into a joke but that's just me.
@nomad4114
@nomad4114 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, i'm a Alisa and Lars hater too
@aabrrrr
@aabrrrr 3 жыл бұрын
please do more tekke vids lmao
@yousufhellsing581
@yousufhellsing581 3 жыл бұрын
Finally ❤️😍🔥
@kamenriderwarrior5645
@kamenriderwarrior5645 3 жыл бұрын
JUN KAZAMA & Asuka Will always b e my Number 1, (Luck Chloe, Jose,Michelle Chang even the new Kunimitisu are the best) but don't get me wrong I see why people hate then and more but still, i like the underdogd, underratted certain kharacters ppl hate in a sense.)
@Garviel-Loken
@Garviel-Loken 3 жыл бұрын
Given the cast size, I thought this would be longer!
@Charlosyt
@Charlosyt 3 жыл бұрын
as a former lili main, i dislike
@garretwoeller7669
@garretwoeller7669 3 жыл бұрын
I think if Fahkumram had more Bruce's kit I would say keep him ditch Josie or bring back Bruce as someone who has play both Bruce and Bryan they are way different.
@mooshinu
@mooshinu 3 жыл бұрын
This guy literally keeps the most random ass boring characters from Tekken Mobile and erases Eliza because she has "no proper story", kinda funny tbh. Eliza could come back with a totally interesting and revamped story surrounding Lili's family, which would leave Asuka alone for her own personal arc at least.
@sonicanvaspost6867
@sonicanvaspost6867 2 жыл бұрын
That is a MARVELOUS idea
@StudentOfKasumi
@StudentOfKasumi 3 жыл бұрын
Cool list. Mr snake
@jasonkennedy6844
@jasonkennedy6844 3 жыл бұрын
It's a great idea to make such tier list without taking into consideration the only really important part... the gameplay. Good stuff.
@dirckthedork-knight1201
@dirckthedork-knight1201 3 жыл бұрын
Nooo not Lily
@Capcom1984
@Capcom1984 3 жыл бұрын
Samurai Shodown vs. Dynasty Warriors: Historical Legends ================================================ Haohmaru = (Edward Bosco) =============== Nakoruru = (Brina Palencia) Rimururu = (GK Bowes) ===================- Wu-Ruixiang = (Cassandra Morris) Iroha = (Monica Rial) =====================- Shiki = (Jillian Ashcraft) Ukyo = (Ted Sroka) ======================= Kyoshiro = (Richard Epcar) Yashamaru = (Kyle Herbert) ================ Darli Dagger = (Mela Lee) Mina Majikina = (Linda Lee) ================ Hanzo = (Patrick Seitz) Genjuro = (Gerald Matthews) =============== Yoshitaro = (Lucas Gilbertson) Charlotte = (Leah Clark) =================== Galford = (Reuben Langdon) Cham Cham = (Megan Hollingshed ========== Tam Tam = (Daniel Lujan) Earthquake = (Steve Blum) ================- Jubei Yagyu = (Gerald Matthews) Enja = (Liam O'Brien ====================== Basara = (David Kaye) Sogetsu = (Todd Haberkorn ================ Amakusa = (Gerald C. Rivers) =============================================================== Xiahou Dun = (Kirk Thornton) ==============- Sun Shangxiang = (GK Bowes) Lu Bu = (Johnny Yong Bosch) ============== Diao Chan = (Carrie Savage) Zhao Yun = (Terrence Stone) ==============- Dian Wei = (Beau Billingslea) Zhang Fei = (Steve Kramer) ===============- Lu Xun = (Skip Stellrecht) Cao Cao = (Douglas Rye) =================- Nobunaga = (Douglas Rye) Zhuge Liang = (Lex Lang) ================= Guan Yinping = (Stephanie Sheh) Xu Zhu = (Steve Blum) ===================- Guan Yu = (Dave B. Mitchell) Yuan Shao = (Paul St Peter) =============== Zhang Liao = (Roger Craig Smith) Xiahou Yuan = (Tony Oliver) =============== Gan Ning = (Doug Stone) Lu Meng = (Tony Oliver) ================== Zhang Jiao = (Doug Stone) Liu Bei = (Dave B Mitchell) ================ Sun Jian = (Steve Blum) Huang Zhong = (Alan Shearman) ==========- Ma Chao = (David Beron)
@destinyseeker9477
@destinyseeker9477 3 жыл бұрын
Akuma canon to Tekken though but I hope he never comes back.
@axsprime
@axsprime 3 жыл бұрын
As a Chloe main I'm okay with this, I only use her because she shit's out damage and is easy and if I get an NFL security guy then I'm in. Cutting Lili and Eliza hurts since they were going somewhere with that plotline but it's whatever.
@Youthfullegend
@Youthfullegend 3 жыл бұрын
Going where exactly? They talk briefly in a cutscene while Eliza is just asleep. These two characters are such throw aways. I'm sorry if you like them, but they're really only fan service.
@axsprime
@axsprime 3 жыл бұрын
Eliza is being hunted by Sirius and is somehow Lili's sister which would make her also a vampire. There are things you can do with that but the only way something can happen with that plot thread is for the writing team to actually give a shit about anyone who isn't a Mishima and maybe a Tekken 4 sized cast of characters.
@topdollar5336
@topdollar5336 3 жыл бұрын
Bonus points for trying to make sense of this shitshow of a storyline, minus points for no Ogre. It hasnt been good since 3 and tag really, 4 was a dumpster fire.
@lukejones7164
@lukejones7164 3 жыл бұрын
Tekken 4 has the best story in the franchise. Tekken 7 has the best gameplay in the franchise. Tekken 5 was the all around best in most things. So to say the series hasn't been good since 3 is false.
@lukejones7164
@lukejones7164 3 жыл бұрын
@This Is What Awesome Looks Like Not having ragdoll physics is a good thing
@kevinbalfe
@kevinbalfe 3 жыл бұрын
Is it bad if I like this video more than Tekken?
@mr.checkyourself4672
@mr.checkyourself4672 3 жыл бұрын
Lol Devil Kazuya not going nowhere 😂
@The4thSnake
@The4thSnake 3 жыл бұрын
He already has.
@mr.checkyourself4672
@mr.checkyourself4672 3 жыл бұрын
@@The4thSnake When?
@The4thSnake
@The4thSnake 3 жыл бұрын
@@mr.checkyourself4672 When was he last properly playable?
@mr.checkyourself4672
@mr.checkyourself4672 3 жыл бұрын
@@The4thSnake Ain't he unlockable in Tekken 7?
@The4thSnake
@The4thSnake 3 жыл бұрын
@@mr.checkyourself4672 Nope.
@ASwagPecan
@ASwagPecan 3 жыл бұрын
Dragunov isn’t going anywhere
@Iakapo
@Iakapo 3 жыл бұрын
2:37 I am not sure about Mokujin or Combot. The former represents a more traditional mimic character, which recent fighting games nowadays exclude from the roster due to E-sports. The latter has potential and can also go into competitive without getting banned. 2:44 Classic Raven ALL THE WAY. Fuck Master Raven. 3:01 May I remind everyone that this was the character that was revealed for 7 at the 20th anniversary event for Tekken? This was the point that Harada's trolling level reached 100. 6:17 For Jun & Unknown, I think I good idea would be for Jun to be able to transform to Unknown and reverse, just like with Kazuya and Devil. 8:01 Kazumi was a 50% wasted potential. Although her inclusion in 7 gave us some backstory about the Devil Gene's Origin and Kazuya's hatred towards Heihachi, she wasn't fleshed out as a character other than to explain a plot thread and conclude Heihachi's story. 8:32 Disagree. Although the constant way of partnering her with Asuka is a bad idea (considering Asuka is a related to Jin, therefore important to the main story), I don't think Lili has to go. The only way to both insert Asuka into the main story and Lili to not have a reason to bother her, is to have Lili go after another character, who they also share an ending in Tekken 7. More on that later. 9:15 Considering Alisa was designed as Jin's bodyguard and since Lars wants to help Jin end the war, I would have kept them. Besides, Lars is my main. 9:55 I was wonder where was Anna in Tekken 7's story. She's supposed to be working in G Corp alongside Kazuya, but she never appeared to help him or even search for Nina. 12:17 Claudio was a BIG wasted potential in Tekken 7. Considering he's an exorcist, it would been so cool to see him actually trying to defeat both Devils. I would have kept him. 13:30 I don't play Tekken Mobile so I don't know about the mobile characters, however I would say that any other character would have been better in Tekken 7 than fucking Lucky Chloe. 15:02 Continuing from my Lili point: Enter Eliza. Since Lili believes that she is her lost sister, she can try to make a bond with her, since we know that Lili is an only child, while Eliza is pretty annoyed by her attitude. 16:52 Alex over Roger Jr ALL THE WAY. I mean how often to you see an dinosaur being a boxer? 17:53 BOTH DEVILS HAVE TO STAY. There the embodiment of the conflict. Although I would say that they have to finally unleash the true potential with Devil Jin, instead of pairing him with Hwoarang all the time. I want to see Devil Jin becoming someone as equal as Devil Kazuya. And a final fight between them, would be a perfect way to conclude their story, just like with Kazuya and Heihachi in Tekken 7.
@ASwagPecan
@ASwagPecan 3 жыл бұрын
Pirate or Dynasty/Samurai Warriors games next
@kiracaos
@kiracaos 3 жыл бұрын
Jack 8 gonna be female and be called Jacky 8. Mark my words
@The4thSnake
@The4thSnake 3 жыл бұрын
We already have a girl robot.
@fusionferrari2902
@fusionferrari2902 3 жыл бұрын
What TBA STANDS FOR
@Youthfullegend
@Youthfullegend 3 жыл бұрын
To be announced.
@corpsedesecrator2612
@corpsedesecrator2612 3 жыл бұрын
Whom HAVE to go Lucky Chloe, Josie, Gigas, Claudio, Eliza, Lili, Miharu and Negan sukks garbage guest character. I WANT Angel back!!
@dirckthedork-knight1201
@dirckthedork-knight1201 3 жыл бұрын
I disagree with your exclusion of a lot of the T7 characters sure they did not have a good start but i think they deserve a second chance to develop their own character and personalities
@KeyBladeMaster-Dan
@KeyBladeMaster-Dan 3 жыл бұрын
@Arturo Henrik Yeah Kazumi was the only thing I disagreed with Snake on personally I love her I waited 2 decades to finally see the mother of Kazuya and for me the expectations I built up weren't just met but exceeded. She has some story problems but let's be real who wasn't written terribly in this game she deserved better
@lukejones7164
@lukejones7164 3 жыл бұрын
@Arturo Henrik Leroy, Lidia, Kazumi and Fak have better designs, fighting styles and stories than most of the classic Tekken characters. Its an objective fact. Master Raven isn't any worse than OG Raven. Katarina is okay And Tekken's story has been trash since T5.
@moncay3238
@moncay3238 Жыл бұрын
@@lukejones7164 I’d say the series story has been trash since T6, T5 story isn’t that great but I wouldn’t call it terrible but T6 dropped the ball with the story.
@kamenriderwarrior5645
@kamenriderwarrior5645 3 жыл бұрын
Imagine Lucky Chloe was a boy
@thatguy229
@thatguy229 3 жыл бұрын
I'd drop Gigas, Katarina, combot, and the mobile characters. Put Lars, Alisa, angel, Josie, and mokujin in
@PlaystationFreak719
@PlaystationFreak719 3 жыл бұрын
I mean does asuka really have to stay tho I mean she hasn't really done much since her debut just saying
@Hillthugsta
@Hillthugsta 3 жыл бұрын
As long as Tekken refuses to put in +40 women, Juli and Oscar are here to stay. Same with Kuni2
@upjohn1715
@upjohn1715 3 жыл бұрын
I like the potential she has I'd prefer to keep her around to explore the Kazamas which I hope the devs do starting with Tekken 8.
@lukejones7164
@lukejones7164 3 жыл бұрын
@@fatalvixen1141 Michelle is boring, Julia as Jaycee is far more interesting. Asuka acts nothing like Jun at all. How is she a knockoff?
@lukejones7164
@lukejones7164 3 жыл бұрын
@@Hillthugsta Japanese fighting games in general don't like 40+ women.
@lukejones7164
@lukejones7164 3 жыл бұрын
Asuka has more story potential than any non-mishima character. That's why
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