TEN Bands Who NEVER Sold Out!

[@mooferoo]

I 'd have to say Bolt Thrower. They once went into the studio, realised their material wasn't as good as their previous album, and just on that basis decided to NOT RECORD AN ALBUM. Then when their drummer died, they broke up the band instead of replacing him.

[@fanofallmetal]

Totally agree.

[@CorpseGrinder1967]

Agreed.

[@SamEricEdge]

In a world of compromise... some don't.

[@DragonflyII]

It was sad when Kearns died for sure but he wasn't their original drummer. Andy Whale was the original who played on their first 4 albums, for many their best.

[@Jew_Lie_the_4th]

The narrator of this video said: "but I would argue that they never had the chance to sell out, in order to sell out you have to be a band big enough to sell out" That statement right there makes no sense to me because the whole reason why a band would want to sell out is so they will become famous and Rich. Otherwise if you're already a big band making tons of money then what would be the point of wanting to sell out for the fame and gold you already have? For instance Jimmy Page sold out way before Zeppelin became huge.

[@robmanson6210]

My band never sold out. We always had loads of tickets left after every show

[@CorpseGrinder1967]

LMAO. My band never sold out as we never actually became a band. I think its the name that kept us from moving forward. The name of the band cannot be mentioned or it would be flagged and banned.

[@sasbalazs6593]

Alice in Chains are definitely one of the bands who never sold out, their self-titled turned out even darker and more depressing than Dirt I think, and their newer material have a certain metal edge to them as well. Great picks in the video by the way!

[@cwrichardson3]

That self titled album was even more crappy than the rest.

[@NECROPOLIS000]

Still trash

[@progbloke6655]

Glad you mentioned Maiden. Steve Harris will never allow them to sell out. I would've included Motorhead, too. Lemmy just did whatever he felt like doing.

[@Feartheviper]

Disagree with Maiden. “Can’t play heavy metal with synthesisers” *proceeds to release synth laden metal couple years later*

[@Gregbaltzer]

@@Feartheviper That was Bruce's doing. Bruce left Maiden over Steve's unwillingness to make more mainstream music, and from being burned out from over touring. Bruce said he felt Maiden were in the right time to do something more mainstream, Steve was against it.

[@Jew_Lie_the_4th]

The narrator of this video said: "but I would argue that they never had the chance to sell out, in order to sell out you have to be a band big enough to sell out" That statement right there makes no sense to me because the whole reason why a band would want to sell out is so they will become famous and Rich. Otherwise if you're already a big band making tons of money then what would be the point of wanting to sell out for the fame and gold you already have? For instance Jimmy Page sold out way before Zeppelin became huge. If some of them do get big without selling out, it's not because they really have talent as far as playing their instruments and structuring music correctly as far as music theory goes. It's because they knew someone and they have a catchy band name and catchy power cord riffs and because everything nowadays is pretentious, fake, CGI, Auto-Tune and very superficial without depth meaning or substance. And that's what the masses are conditioned to listening to now and have been so dumbed down by it because it's so robotic and repetitive and repetition is an excellent form of mind control that will dumb you down and give you a short attention span so that when they do try to listen to anything that has real talent and depth they don't understand it. In other words it's a lot easier to get big nowadays.

[@Gregbaltzer]

@@Jew_Lie_the_4th it's a lot harder to get big these days. There's so much music available that it's harder to get noticed. Record labels don't gamble on bands anymore. There's no royalties from record sales. There's very little record label push. Touring is expensive, and there's too many bands touring all competing against each other. There's very little revenue in streaming. The only real revenue is merch and now lots of venues are trying to take a cut in that. Look at festivals, all the headlining acts are 30-40 years old, because there are so few current acts that are big enough to draw people in. Go back to the 70s, 80s, and 90s and most festivals were headlined by the big acts of the time. There's no MTV, or Much Music pushing bands anymore to create contemporary stars. The entire infrastructure right now is against bands making it big.

[@Jew_Lie_the_4th]

@@Gregbaltzer Yes in that aspect it is harder to get in because there's a lot more bands out there nowadays but in the past like in the 60s and 70s the standards in which you had to have as a band for instance talent and musical compositioning that was demanded back then for you to even get big. I mean just look at the kind of crap they allow out now compared to back then. I could get in a band nowadays and make it somehow because all's I would need to do is learn two or three bar chords on the guitar. You can even hear the popularity of what was being played on the radio back in those days and you can tell the talent was much greater. There's always been basic pop and mainstream metal but the stuff they're putting out now is just absolutely foolish.

[@adamgabriel730]

I'd like to add Crowbar on that list. All the albums got the unique sound that define the band, also the quality of albums is consistent all these years.... They never dissapoints.

[@butchvito]

Exactly the first band to come to my mind. One of the most consistent bands ever. My personal favorite band.

[@waverlyking6045]

Overkill never sold out, even during the few years they were signed with Atlantic. Blitz equated success not with money or fame but with how long you were able to do something that made you happy.

[@donmcglothlin841]

Mercyful Fate and King Diamond? When Hank Shermann decided to go in a more commercial direction the king disbanded MF (Hank formed Fate) and took Timi and Mike with him into the King Diamond band. When Nu Metal popped up they still sounded like KD/MF To this day when you buy an album with KD/MF on the title you know what you’re getting

[@josephmills7033]

OVERKILL!!!

[@RCT1963]

AC/DC Critics; “ You’ve made the same album 12 times!” Angus; “Rubbish! It’s 13 albums”.

[@TeaCup1987]

I feel like Motörhead should be on this list for sure. And another band that continued through the rough times was Sodom for sure.

[@solarwinds5114]

Totally agree about Devin, even his "poppy" sounding albums are still genuine which is a tough thing to do

[@lvl_0]

All the positivity in Devin's music comes from an authentic place. It's somehow easy to see that over the mass produced garbage pumped out for packaging and distribution.

[@cjklemonski1938]

Manowar? They've been mocked forever and still never caved

[@jasonwadsworth5949]

Darkthrone should be on this list. Always did their own thing. Still do

[@lvl_0]

Nice that you included the Melvins in the list. I'm one of the oddballs that likes almost everything they do so that was heartening. Tool also in that they have a song on Aenima dedicated to selling out, HwaP. But they didn't really.

[@MidnightSocial]

Great video again mate. I was starting to get burned out on KZbin metal channels until you came along. There’s an awful lot of edgelords around now but you’re just chill and not stuck in one specific style or genre. Hats off mate. Keep up the good work.

[@chaospoet]

Type O Negative, Danzig, Deftones, Iced Earth, KMFDM, Ministry, Overkill, Boris all come to mind.

[@the_yellow_shirted_kid_16]

Danzig rules!

[@jasonwadsworth5949]

Pearl Jam's stance against ticketmaster in the 90s was legendary, but now Eddie Vedder appears in ads for Spotify, which crushes smaller bands/artists

[@ObscuraDeCapra]

Spotify (or Apple Music in my case) is the only way I would have ever run across bands and artists like Chat Pile, Hatchie, The Beths, Dance with the Dead, fuckin' IDLES... so many bands that I've now spent considerable amounts of money on that I never would have heard of unless their music was readily available. Several years back there was a big 80's music guy whining on Facebook about how "little" Spotify pays per listen. "Why back in my (Steve Lukather. It was Steve Lukather) day we would make $20,000 every time one of our songs was played in a major media market!" I did the math for him. In a top ten media market, assuming that's a real number, they would have made LESS per-listener than what he quoted Spotify as paying per-stream at the time. The only thing that had changed is that his bands don't get anywhere near the number of people listening to them BY CHOICE and that's where the brainfail kicks in. They can't comprehend the idea that maybe nobody gives a shit about their music anymore. "It can't be that five million streams is quite literally the equivalent of a single radio play in a major market, can it? It's five million! That should be like buying five million albums, right?!?" Like all boomer-asses when confronted with the truth, he blocked me. It was glorious.

[@juanvaldez5422]

He’s such a creepy phony

[@thegulag666]

I knew cannibal corpse would be on here. In the centuries of torment documentary, Cannibal got invited to a festival with many heavy metal bands, with cannibal being the sole death metal band i believe. I think they were asked to tone down their brutality. They didn't change their sound at all and everyone loved them 😂

[@113h_tm]

Pantera could be the next metallica. Their recording label wanted them to be more accessible, but no, they were getting heavier and heavier. Killing trends, u know

[@DarkGiratinaGirl666]

Metallica sold out with eyeliner lip gloss and rouge! Also, haircuts! I have never liked Metallica! LULU anyone!?!?

[@bananaempijama]

From what I read, that was mostly due to Phil. He didn't want Pantera to be more accessible.

[@positivepsycho2932]

Just dont talk about the glam era Pantera, right.😂😂😂😂

[@Paradiselost2802]

​@@positivepsycho2932oh that was their path until Phil

[@richardwarner8648]

Pantera started out and stayed poser metal. Bunch of drunks and junkies.

[@MattSchreiber-x4t]

Tool is my personal favorite band. Thanks for giving them the credit!! I dig what you do. Have a good one 🤘

[@markwoods3689]

Lars Ulrich said something interesting about selling out - "We sell out every night." My picks would include Rush, Motorhead and most of the black metal scene

[@GarethAlan81]

Motörhead always did their own thing. Lemmy always kept ticket prices as low as possible too. ♠️ I don't think Napalm Death sold out. They experimented, but I wouldn't say sold out.

[@fanofallmetal]

As for Napalm Death, yes they incorporated more groove on the Diatribes album, but was it still SOUNDED like Napalm Death, and was far from a commercially accessible album in the mid 90s. Great band. A couple more for the list: Faith No More. After "The Real Thing" came out, they really could have capitalized on that sound. Instead, they followed up with "Angel Dust", which, from what I understand, really pissed off the label. CLUTCH. While their sound changed after the first album, it wasn't to chase a trend. They were a band of punk kids who loved ZZ Top and Deep Purple, and those influences blossomed in a unique way. One of my favorite bands.

[@Gregbaltzer]

That was more Mitch's doing. He wanted to experiment and have the groove, then Barney got pissed off, quit, joined Extreme Noize Terror for one album. He refused to come back unless they went back to grindcore.

[@joehobbs3277]

Hey man I’m enjoying your Chanel a lot at the moment it’s actually a great way to check out bands people might not have heard of before and also interesting to hear your thoughts and opinions in the albums or bands your covering keep it up🙂

[@jovan9989]

Neurosis had the opportunity with them being invited by pantera one year and sharon the other to the ozzfest but these guys retreated, created their own company and put most of what they earned into pushing other bands they found to be talented and unique and Neurot surley had few of those very unique bands (made out of babies, grails, oxbow, amenra etc.).

[@Buddha-of8fk]

Definitely Rush, after 2112 the industry didn't tell them what to do with their music.

[@1megawhite]

Can I just sa, I only just found your channel, and I’m hooked already 🎣 Interesting discussions, great insight and delivery and ya seem a nice bloke too Kool and the Gang👊😎🤘

[@harrisonmullaly9194]

Happy to see the Melvins on this list, one of the greatest!

[@richardwarner8648]

Cannibal Corpse christmas shirts are sold at Walmart in the US.

[@Agalloch1234]

As it should be.

[@stevevantrigt5285]

Great list! my top ten IMO 1 Killing Joke 2 DOA 3 Nomeansno 4 Fugazi ( complete agree with you ) 5 The Cramps 6 Husker Du 7 New Model Army 8 Bad Brains 9 Propaghandhi ( even though they take themselves too seriously) 10 XTC

[@pjbrown4736]

Faith No More/Fantomas/Mr. Bungle/Mike Patton solo. Frank Zappa

[@mynameismud-qd9vu]

Mike Patton just isn't a sellout. He'll make the most eclectic, bizarre albums you'll ever hear, and he doesn't care if you like it or not. He knows his fans will like it though.

[@jamesbedford3774]

I'd have had Suicidal Tendencies and Biohazard in there. Both had the opportunity to go 'mainstream', neither of them did.

[@GarethAlan81]

Deicide never changed. ☠️

[@berndhuss6368]

How in hell did Overkill not make your list??

[@Jem-cz7vl]

Dark Tranquility for sure

[@kenfrederick6223]

I only like a few of the bands you've mentioned, but I'm gonna give you a "thumbs up" for being the first person in history to say "God bless Cannibal Corpse".

[@markg99]

I had to break off half way through to listen to Unchallenged Hate for the first time. Incredible stuff 🤘🤘

[@ThatMetalBloke]

Glad you dug the track mate 🤘

[@jonzaker8880]

You're doing a killer job,keep it up 🤘🏻

[@JohannBrucka]

CONGRATS ON 5K!!!!

[@ThatMetalBloke]

Thanks a lot 🤘

[@bryangarcia5599]

You forgot to mention *_DEEEEAAAATTTTHHHH!_* ...That is all.

[@Agalloch1234]

Unmm… they sold out tho

[@TheFujac]

@@Agalloch1234 big time

[@mynameischewie1196]

​@Agalloch1234 I'm not a huge death fan but I'm getting into them ever so slightly, so how did they sell out exactly? I'm not asking in an arse hole kinda way so sorry if it comes across like that I'm just curious how

[@Fulci.LivesMLM]

Chuck started to shit on Death Metal in the late 90s,the music got less extreme and the logo was changed to not be offensive. It started with Symbolic where they went into prog metal​@@mynameischewie1196

[@erikcarlson6374]

Fun list, glad I discovered this channel. Not to be a music history nerd but seems the place to do it, if we're praising the bass sound of Tool, we have to give credit to it's originator Paul D'Amour, who played on the first couple Tool recordings and admitted to teaching Justin Chancellor the tone settings and play style when D'Amour gave the job over to him. Chancellor totally took it and made it his own and even better, but it was there when he started to job.

[@sima2164]

I'm glad the Bloke put Tool on the list. I think Tool has a much larger spectrum of fans than most of those other bands on the list and could have easily sold out, but went the total opposite direction making 10 minute long radio unfriendly songs. It got to the point where rock stations stopped playing Tool's music and they didn't seem to care one bit. Now I would argue that they are the biggest band in the world headlining every rock festival on the planet.

[@MrDecksels]

In my opinion, Tool sold out in a very different way. I just hate them for the way they treat their fanbase. Especially since releasing Fear Inoculum, it feels like they have created a habit to squeeze every last penny out of your pocket.

[@sima2164]

@@MrDecksels I have been a fan of Tool for 30 years and never really gave it much thought about what they do or think about their fans. I just want to listen to the music and see them live where they always put on an incredible show. Every time I go to a concert it might cost me 150 bucks which these days really isn't that bad. I mean every band is going to try to make money and I blame Live Nation for the concert ticket scams I don't think Tool can control that.

[@MrDecksels]

@@sima2164 Well, they did Initially release an incomplete album on cd, while the entire album was available on services like iTunes and Spotify, which are inferior audiofiles. Putting up a pre-order for a second print of the cd which, as far as I remember, never arrived. Instead, releasing a cheaper edition on cd of the complete album for Christmas. Waiting more than a year before the album gets a release on vinyl but first selling signed copies for hundreds of Dollars on their merchandise stands. Releasing a small statue of the Embryo Skull (artwork from the 10,000 Days-album) only to release a lifesize version of the exact same statue one month later, when the miniature version was already sold out. ...

[@butchvito]

Thanks for proving my point that the majority of Tool fans are the most pretentious fans on the planet. Tool is still all over FM radio. If you're referring to their newer material not being played on the radio, then Ok. You can say that about most bands from the 80's and 90's though. You mostly hear the older stuff on the radio.

[@sima2164]

@@butchvito I wasn't being pretentious, my point was that without any publicity from radio and mainstream outlets because they never sold out they have arguably become the biggest band in the world 35 years after their conception which I believe speaks volumes to how great of a band they are. I am from the Boston area which has pretty much gotten rid of rock stations, but before they did they never played Tool and also the current NH rock stations hardly ever play Tool. I can't speak for other parts of the country.

[@cmacdhon]

As soon as I saw the title of this video, Cannibal Corpse was the first band that came to mind.

[@PatoIzquierdo]

Love your attitude! Keep it just like that... I agree with the list and missing the walking part of the ramble. Another great idea for a video is Top 10 non metal bands you love and raise the middle finger to the elitists! Ha! Hugs, brother!

[@Andy-m6j]

YES MY DUDE!!! The latest Melvins album is awesome I really dig it.

[@ThatMetalBloke]

Gotta love the Melvins 🤘

[@dasboot2761]

might I add Killing Joke, Dead Kennedys and the Kinks to this list, Ja! Also, I thought you were a bit hard on Slayer... I know that album you speak of was not their best, but selling out? In my opinion, they were influenced by bands doing the drop D or C tuning at that time... they tried it out and moved on... I enjoy your channel and respect your opinions... any bloke that listens to Agnostic Front, MDC, Cro.Mags and Napalm Death is a legend in my book! Danke und Prost

[@toddhill7483]

Killing Joke for sure. Excellent assessment

[@VognerCharking]

I'm a big fan of Devin Townsend as well, but the only argument I'd have against selling out his him writing Sky Blue and PowerNerd. He's admitted he wrote these more commercial sounding albums to fund the other things he wanted to do. Sky Blue allowed him to do Z²:Dark Matter and doing PowerNerd will allow him to do The Moth. Having said that, I think Sky Blue is still a wonderful, emotional record, even if his heart wasn't fully in it.

[@andrettski8686]

WASP, Prong, Testament, Exodus, Suicidal Tendencies, Dead Kennedys, PLASMATICS, AC/DC, Over Kill, Metal Church, King Diamond/Fate

[@butchvito]

Testament and Exodus tried to go more in a commercial direction with their 1992 releases following the success of Metallica's Black Album. They both were definitely trying to get on FM radio with a few of those singles, regardless of what the record labels told them to do.

[@ValtteL]

Children of Bodom. Around ~2003 big American record label offered them a lucrative deal, but they wanted the growling singing to be replaced by clean ones and they had some other ideas to make them more mainstream. No surprise, the band's frontman Alexi Laiho told them to fuck off. Another good one was when they made cover of Brittney Spears' Oops!…I Did It Again and some of the gatekeeper metalheads burned their COB shirts and records, and whined a lot because they didn't like it. The band responded to this and they mocked the gatekeepers in many different interviews. They just happened to be musicians who also liked other genres and that became their inside joke, when at gigs they played small clips of well-known songs by different artists, such as Rihanna, Lady Gaga etc. This second one is more about not being sellouts to the gatekeepers, which i really like.

[@113h_tm]

I wouldn't think about nirvana, but u are right with mentioning this. In utero easily could shake off a part of fans who came after never mind success

[@henningtollefsen8725]

Anaal Nathrakh is definitely worth mentioning 🤘

[@erasta7011]

Ramones was one of the biggest sellout bands ever. They hired Phil Specter as a producer, wrote straight up pop songs, wrote another one demanding to be played on the radio and always complained about other bands stealing their sound and being more successful. But they could never not sound like themselves, and that's what made them great.

[@reidood]

Great video man! I feel like perhaps some people might disagree with Nirvana being on the list, not because of their transition from Nevermind to In Utero but for going from Bleach to Nevermind. Even they themselves (especially Kurt) sort of cringed about that album's "clean" production and obviously more streamlined sound compared to Bleach's more raw compositions and grittier production. I'm definitely not talking shit, they are my favorite band of all time, and I don't even think they necessarily "sold out" anyway, but I figured perhaps some others might talk shit about that pick. Cheers.

[@Sammm1473]

Dillinger escape plan did everything right. Disassociation was the perfect album. It was a real callback to the beginning and they still today give back and refuse to sell out. They do live shows near their hometown( my home state) and continue to give back through their show food drives and their affordable shows

[@Jonze78]

One band you missed for sure, NOFX. They could’ve been as big as the other punk bands who broke out at that time, but they decided not to go that route.

[@jasonwadsworth5949]

I clicked on this video to see if NOFX was mentioned.

[@punkrockstormchaser]

They were as big, back in the day you’d hear someone mention them, as well as pennywise those two never went to big labels like their contemporaries (Green Day, Jawbreaker, Rancid, The Offspring, Bad Religion, H2O)

[@Boman-Boys]

MOTÖRHEAD !!!!!!

[@PadanFain-yp2yz]

I appreciate your comments on Tool (good and bad)....and definitely enjoyed your closing comments on haters. Keep it up, cheers \m/

[@jackbrown4697]

Tool never ever sold out to me. Maynard is undeniably a genius.

[@ThatMetalBloke]

I think you'll be happy with this video in that case 🤘

[@DarkGiratinaGirl666]

AGREED!

[@jackbrown4697]

@@DarkGiratinaGirl666 Hell yeah 🤘

[@DanFarva]

Maynard is a jew. This is a oxymoron

[@spennysatdennys8143]

“They stuck to their guns” yea boy did they

[@ShadowSamba]

Queens of the Stone Age, Faith no More, Killing Joke, Alice in Chains, Manilla Road, Savatage, Satan, Annihilator, Sadus, Razor, Sodom, Bolt Thrower, Immolation, Suffocation, Hypocrisy Just to name a few of my favs

[@CorpseGrinder1967]

Forgot to mention Vader

[@ShadowSamba]

@CorpseGrinder1967 Well i don't personally like them that much, but yeah they are very true to their game

[@Simon-T.]

Great video as always. As many have mentioned Clutch spring to mind along with CoC. Clutch just keep writing their style of rock and CoC jumped into different styles but all because they wanted to. Outside of metal I'd throw in Waits, Cave, Bjork, QOTSA, Fiona Apple... all just seem to do exactly what the want and when they want. Myself and a couple of mates did a ranking every Metallica song about a year ago. I can garuntee that my top 10 will be hated more than whatever yours is, so you can deflect the haters my way... it's 90s heavy! Looking forward to that video and your albums of the year!

[@ThatMetalBloke]

Cheers bro. Clutch and CoC are good picks as well. I will be doing a part 2 of this for sure as there are a ton of other bands I can include. Where do I find your Metallica video mate?

[@Simon-T.]

@ThatMetalBloke Oh it wasn't a video, just a zoom call between mates. I can post my list though when you get to your video

[@ThatMetalBloke]

Ah right. No worries. Looking forward to seeing your list 🤘

[@cogitoergodumm]

Danny Carey and Thomas Haake are the reason why I've started to learn the drums, even though I don't think that I'll ever be able to learn one of their songs at my age. But at elast it gives me something to work towards, you know? I didn't know about Dillinger Escape Plan, but sounds like they might be up my alley as well.

[@שאולנקר]

I LIKE YOU MATE ! KEEP ON BEING REAL🤘💪

[@SimonChinook]

Clutch.. got to add Clutch. Not a single bad record and always know you're listening to Clutch!

[@butchvito]

They've changed their style drastically from the 90's, but still make kickass music regardless of their style. Their more popular now than ever.

[@toddschulz2807]

Clutch rules.

[@crustycatfish]

I think Mercyful Fate could also be added to the list. They literally broke up after 2 albums because King refused to use Hank's new material that was more commercial, and even though the early albums are still superior, they've kept the same tone throughout the decades.

[@AReallyLongAndUnremakableUser]

Metallica didn't sell out..... They became SPINAL TAP.

[@PadanFain-yp2yz]

It's the eternal argument.....what is the actual definition of "selling out"? To cater to your fans with just about every release, or to do what you want in the studio regardless of any fan opinion or potential backlash... With that said, I will always say Metallica never actually sold out. To stay true to your own ideas and goals as the artist is more important than expectation. Cheers \m/

[@lukaskolisek2208]

@@PadanFain-yp2yz I dunno, maybe try branching out with a different project like Chuck did with Control Denied? I love Mama Said but it's not a Metallica song. It's Hetfield's coutry/blues side band. And you know what? A whole album of that would be nice to hear but not as a Metallica thing.

[@PadanFain-yp2yz]

@@lukaskolisek2208 So influences should dictate the decision to form different projects? They were influenced by country and grunge during the mid 90s, it is what it is. I'm not saying Load/ReLoad are perfect records, but certainly a breath of fresh air and different from their S/T and other material their peers were releasing.

[@AReallyLongAndUnremakableUser]

@PadanFain-yp2yz Metallica still went 100% spinal tap!!

[@PadanFain-yp2yz]

@@AReallyLongAndUnremakableUser And yet they're still the real deal selling out stadiums.

[@moopert86]

I love Tool, but I do kinda think they did sell out a bit with Lateralus. It's a great album, but I feel it's somewhat more accessible than Aenima.

[@CCS216]

I thought of a band you can argue belongs; Sleep. Look at the Dopesmoker story and it seems like the record company was like “let’s make hits.” And Sleep was like, “here’s a 63 minute song.”

[@nicholasvallas9802]

Pearl jam nah. They just had to lower the price of their tickets cause they weren’t selling. That means they knew they were gouging their fans.

[@rabidgoon]

fun fact about ian mackaye of fugazi - he is actually much wealthier than a lot of bands that did sell out. because he's a stock market investing wizard. but just as with his music career, he has an ethical approach and doesn't invest in stocks that go against his beliefs.

[@alancaudwell9065]

Pretty windy here in Norfolk too. LAnd being as flat as it is in most places, so not much to break the breeze up. Don't you just love the British winter. 😄 Really do enjoy watching your vid's. You have mentioned a few groups i've not heard so I've got a bit to catch up on.

[@CCS216]

I was waiting to jump into the comments and scream, “you forgot Fugazi!!!” But honestly, this list is so perfect. I loved it. Napalm Death belongs on the list. I feel like groove is something you really move towards with age.

[@Riksi80]

Good on you. Can't wait for the MetallicA video. The more I watch your videos, the more I realize we have quite similar taste in music. You said it few times now, in few different videos (also in the old channel), that you don't enjoy Jinjer that much. Personally had the biggest buzz towards that band since Pantera's Vulgar CD landed on my CD player. Now, I'm not trying to convert anyone here, just curious what's the issue there? Why ask now? Was just listening what you said about Meshuggah and Dillinger, just got me curious.

[@DragonflyII]

My ex-wife & sister-in-law's band supported Napalm Death in '96 during the 'Diatribes' tour when they really changed style, it was jarring compared to the old grindcore & they neglected most of their early material, band morale was low & Barney Greenway departed immediately after the tour. Flashforward to 2017 when my own band supported Napalm Death & it was almost the opposite, their setlist was a mixture of early classics & new songs, with the groove mid-period mostly ignored. Having said that, there were original ND fans who felt they "sold out" when they went death metal on 'Harmony Corruption'! They've definitely stuck to the idealogy though, so fair call on their inclusion for this list, which has some excellent choices like Dillinger who went out on top. Cannibal Corpse are death metal kings, with an honourable mention to Immolation, they definitely belong on this list. Original Tool bassist Paul D'Amour deserves credit for laying down the foundation that Chancellor built on.

[@brickmaeddef]

Opeth

[@Agalloch1234]

You’re joking, right?

[@brickmaeddef]

@Agalloch1234 No I'm not :)

[@johnkeating34]

Changing style is not selling out,love devils orchard

[@KylePurgaric]

W mention :)

[@AndrewWatkins-m7b]

Guided by Voices from Dayton,OH!!

[@toddhill7483]

Love them to this day. Good call.

[@rickungureanu5657]

I tend to agree with you on the idea of Napalm Death not selling out. (Even though their actual existence could be conceived as a money grab)

[@mynameismud-qd9vu]

I'd say a lot of bands from the 90's never sold out. Primus, Faith No More, Alice in Chains, Soundgarden, Nirvana, Fugazi, and many others.

[@fdsfsdfsd1552]

I don't know, Primus did have an unsavory dalliance with nu-metal in Antipop.

[@daccrowell4776]

Hmmm...OK. Let's start with the icons of doom, Sunn o))). Stephen O'Malley has never...well, actually may be incapable of it...selling out. They created an album that is so sonically terrorizing ("Black One") that although I own a copy, I have yet to put it on straight-thru on my own. Or when they teamed up with 60s popster Scott Walker...with the results being so discomforting that the album ("Soused") makes me feel like I need a shower after playing it. Plus...they run Southern Lord, an entire LABEL that refuses to sell out. Then more quality doom: Bongripper. Their very first track on their very first album ("Reefer Sutherland", on "Hippie Killer") sets the pace and they DO NOT let up thereafter. They also did an album entitled "Satan Worshipping Doom"...and if you title an album THAT, you're either going to BRING IT, or it's a sellout. Yeah, they brought it...daaaaaaamn, did they ever! Parliament/Funkadelic was conceptually incapable of selling out. For one thing, it was the same band, with two different names to circumvent a bad early record deal because the music simply HAD TO come out. The Mother ship Connection tour (which I still feel privileged to have seen) nearly bankrupted them, but they HAD TO give the music its proper setting. And yes, they had HITS...but they were just as smokin' as the deeper cuts on the albums. And ultimately, "Maggot Brain" let their guitarist Eddie Hazel up the "epic solo" criteria to places it hadn't gone to. Plus, the completely deranged cartoon covers by Pedro Bell on several Funkadelic albums are like "Where's Waldo?" on PCP. Closest thing you can compare 'em to was Frank Zappa's various band formations...but Frank DID sell out (albeit as a deliberate act to sneak his subversive stuff into unsuspecting suburbanite record collections, which might NOT actually be "selling out") somewhat. Kinda. Acid Mothers Temple. I have no idea how many projects Makoto Kawabata has helmed, but every time I grab an AMT album from ANY period, I always get a different take on the same chemically-fueled audio madness. Frank Zappa's early by-line of "no commercial potential" fits here nicely. Plus, they've collaborated with a ton of artists...and even THOSE fit into the overall lysergic chaos-scape. And last but not least...Van der Graaf Generator. Yes, "The Silent Zone/The Pleasure Dome" COULD be construed as a "sellout"...until you start paying attention to Peter Hamill's weird and broodingly-psychotic lyrics. And that's as close as they ever got. The REST of the time, they were the caustic counterparts of other prog bands; for every "Roundabout" you would get from "commercial" prog, VdGG would serve up it's disturbing counterpart. Even their 21st century output follows the same zero-compromise standard, although they tend toward somewhat more straightforward topics, the music STILL hits right. And, amazingly, Gary Numan. Tbh, his hits from the post- punk era were more of a fluke than targeted sell-out fodder. Even when his brand of synthpop fell out of fashion, he kept right on plugging away...and he's still a formidable talent to this day, still not compromising his vision. In fact, his closer when I saw him in Chicago a few years ago was "Are 'Friends' Electric?", but he changed the last line... He swept his arms around toward the band and then the audience, and firmly stated "You see... THIS means EVERYTHING to me!" And when you're a sellout...nothing of the sort enters into your mind. It was one of those "raison d'etre" moments, to be sure!

[@MaybeCarter]

I feel that pantera could also be on the list, but besides that really good list 👍

[@malagua21]

You have to do a part two to this video so many more bands to mention like Motorhead Ramones Saxon Accept Dio and so on Nice video greetings from Greece

[@tussk.]

Motorhead?

[@zombiTrout]

Immolation have always stayed consistent throughout their discography.

[@DallasGunther]

The first band that came to mind when i clicked the video so i guess that means i agree.

[@Ghostwolfdk]

Dissection could have been a number on the list as well..

[@bananaempijama]

16:34 Yess!! I knew you were going to pick Meshuggah. They NEVER sold out, they were never after trends, they MADE the trends!!! Look at Destroy Erase Improve (1995), they are waaaayyy ahead of any band! Other bands copied them after 5-10 years! Everything they made it's not Djent, it's unique, it's different, it's their style!!!

[@TommyLedge]

Savatage

[@lanceuppercut7418]

I would add Vomitory. I have a lot of respect for bands like that. It's not about the money for them.

[@jamesmoren9775]

Clutch?

[@Wasyashock]

I mean I'm an Opeth fanboy but I would definitely pick them independently of that because Mikael just does whatever he (and other people in the band) wants and nobody else really

[@garypasquill2355]

Difficult music is worth listening to

[@talon_r5672]

I think Kreator Needs to be mentioned, espeicially in the thrash genre, they are one of the few that have genuinely never changed their sound, i mean just listen to their latest album! Hate Uber Alles is an out and out thrash metal album in 2022! Cant say that about alot of the older thrash metal bands that are still around today

[@butchvito]

😆Are you not familiar with Kreator's 90's material? Kreator has also added quite a bit of melodeath influences in their most recent albums. Their definitely not the same raw gritty thrash band from the 80's.

[@ShadowSamba]

@@talon_r5672 Kreator had an awkward Goth Metal phase in the late 90's. Other than that, very solid discography

[@wheelsofmercury]

I know you are not much of a metalcore fan, but Knocked Loose deserves a mention on a list like this. They’ve been getting more popular as they’ve been getting heavier.

[@Agalloch1234]

Portal, nuff said.

[@richjames1595]

motorhead???

[@jpmtlhead39]

Iron Maiden the Greatest Heavy Metal Band ( music in general) Ever. Iron Maiden never sold their soul to mainstream for fame and fortune like many other bands did , specialy that american band with 3 great/ historical albums didin't had the slightest problem (conscience) of "betraying" their fans and themselfes. Well at least they have all the Fame and Fortune enough for 100 lives but don't have the Respect of the people who did support them from the first second,first album and the rest is history...full of shitty music and full of Posers as theirs fanbase. Iron Maiden after 45+ years and 200 million records sold and still sell out arenas all over the World. Iron Maiden have the Biggest and most Loyal fanbase on the Heavy Metal World ( and in general). Respect and Loyalty for what you Love and for the ones who always did and still support them is the Ultimate Currencie/ Credebility in life. Iron Maiden are the Epitome and Face of Real and True Heavy Metal music.

[@Gregbaltzer]

It's a weird thing because you never know what motivates a band. Sometimes I really believe bands aren't catering to styles as much as they're being influenced by them. Eg. Morgoth. I was reading when they were talking about Farewell to the Fanatics they were saying that originally they came from a secluded area of Germany and their music was influenced by the little bit of heavy music they heard. Later as they started to tour they got exposed to all this other music forms of music and they were really influenced by Ministry when they made that album. Our tastes change as we age and get exposed to different things, different ideas, and different ways of making music that we never thought of. I hate the Kerry King way of thinking that "bands should stay within their genre." I think bands should make whatever music they want. To me selling out is when you don't stay true to yourself. I agree with Lars "always giving fans what they want is a form of selling out." If you're constantly making the same album over and over because you think that's what the fans want, even if you want to do something different, then yes you've sold out. It's like Kerry King when he was making Repentless he didn't let Gary write anything because he said "I don't think Slayer fans are ready for Gary to write on a Slayer album." Right there he was thinking about making the album he thinks the fans want, and catering to them instead of making the the artistic choice.

[@gasolinechlorine]

Great list. Very happy to see the Melvins on here, as they were my first thought for this idea. Buzz Osbourne almost seems like the personification of "not giving a fuck what you think". The weird thing I think about this idea though is that a lot of bands were accused of selling out because they changed their sound. I think the biggest band accused of that were Metallica, although I think AFI was always leveled that charge as well. Basically I think that a lot of bands don't experiment much outside of their niche because they don't want to alienate fans. But of the bands that do experiment and lose fans, you can tell they've not sold out because they keep experimenting. As far as absolute sellouts, my picks would be Sugar Ray or the Goo Goo Dolls. Not metal - although they were both "heavy" before they sold out - but very blatant.

[@g.garcia7151]

Great list. I’m happy to see Fugazi here

[@yungfiend6830]

Off topic but you should make a video on some international bands your into. Anything outside the States and U.K. not any genre specifically. But metal preferred obviously.