Terminator Dark Fate - How to Terminate a Legacy | Anatomy Of A Failure

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The year 2019 in movies offered a bunch of flops and letdowns -- Men In Black International, Curse of La Llorona, Hellboy, Gemini Man (+ Rise of Skywalker to some) and Mortal engines to name a few -- but none of them as much so as Terminator: Dark Fate. This is a film that was supposed to revitalize a fallen franchise -- packing talent like James Cameron, Arnold Schwarzenegger, Linda Hamilton, Tim Miller. And yet, the only thing it managed to do was destroy the very thing that made the franchise what it is. The filmmakers promised something new, whereas in reality all they delivered was fake originality at the cost of Terminator 2, the greatest action movie ever made. In today's episode of award winning family friendly trending page worthy Anatomy of a Failure, let's look at Dark Fate and how exactly it lies to the audience in a way that made it the worst movie of 2019.
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Terminator: Dark Fate (2019)
Director Tim Miller helmed the sixth installment in the Terminator franchise, which reunites Linda Hamilton and Arnold Schwarzenegger in a timeline that unfolds two decades after the events of the first movie. An aging Sarah Connor joins forces with a cybernetically-enhanced female soldier from 2042-and her former nemesis-to protect a young girl from an advanced Terminator model from the dystopian future.
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Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker (2019)
The remaining traces of the Resistance movement assemble in their quest to overthrow the First Order, once and for all. Each member of the Resistance must contend with both their own demons and how the events of the past everything wrong with Terminator Dark Fate cinemasins honest trailer terminator dark fate watch terminator dark fate full movie online free terminator dark fate clip hd 4k battle scene action scene james cameron have affected them, learning to overcome their struggles to create a unified front. Meanwhile, the Jedi and the Sith approach their final face-off, bringing centuries of contention to a head. At the heart of it all is Rey (Daisy Ridley), the former orphan who stands as the Resistance's last hope as the galaxy's remaining Jedi knight. Directed by J.J. Abrams.
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Men In Black: International (2019)
Roughly based on the Lowell Cunningham Marvel comic book of the same name, this film follows the Men in Black film series of previous years. A new team is protecting the earth from a special kind of shapeshifting alien in this adventure as Agent H. (Chris Hemsworth) and Agent M. (Tessa Thompson) attempt to protect earth from an intergalactic takeover; another enemy closer to home has penetrated the organization in the form of a mole. Directed by F. Gary Gray and co-written by Art Marcum and Matt Holloway.

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[@utley]

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[@ishan94shukla]

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[@dearcastiel4667]

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[@harryviking6347]

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[@kaelthunderhoof5619]

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[@GlatzeMetzger]

Always though it will be Bender

[@ChrisPeteG]

After literally FOUR attempts to make the best "Terminator 3" possible....the best Terminator 3 ended up being the first Terminator 3.

[@brianparkhurst2636]

Nah Salvation was better

[@ChrisPeteG]

@@brianparkhurst2636 That is a valid opinion. I typically find T3 to be good with a number of bad things holding it back, while Salvation is not-so-good but with a number of highlights. I won't argue with anyone who prefers Salvation. T3 and Salvation are both far better than Genisys and Dark Fate.

[@deeem2628]

Wrong

[@qwer-tj5ob]

Terminator 1,2,3 creates a perfect time loop. Judgement day is inevitable.

[@Vasharan]

*least worst*

[@azraelbatosi]

When she said “you’re not going to birth some MAN who’s going to save the future, you ARE the future...” the few people in my movie theater actually starting chuckling and laughing

[@hasnahmad-wv4xe]

🅱️ *R U H*

[@gumdeo]

It basically became a self-parody at that point.

[@hasnahmad-wv4xe]

@@gumdeo indeef

[@azraelbatosi]

It’s awful that the only funny part of the movie was unplanned and in response to dialogue these people probably thought was just genius

[@nepntzerZer]

i heard audible winces...

[@jevinday]

The director being all proud that everything is CG is the epitome of what's wrong with Hollywood. In 10 seconds.

[@g.d.graham2446]

Of course

[@Toastrackman]

A woke attitude is what killed this franchise off imo.

[@g.d.graham2446]

Definitely

[@bigpun7916]

I hope that Director is homeless , that movie was a pile of woke shit.

[@famalam943]

@@Toastrackman it wasn’t woke. Or at least I wouldn’t say it was. It was just a poor terminator movie. They all are. Two movies. That’s it.

[@UltimateCerberus]

"You see this helicopter going under a freeway overpass? That's a helicopter going under a freeway overpass." Just killed me hahahaha

[@vit968]

*CGI was so abused in this movie. That entire cargo plane sequence was just cringe.*

[@bryan81584]

@J C Ya except the helicopter would be doing barrel rolls while on fire or some crazy crap. That's most action movie cgi now, take something that could have been done more practically, do it digitally, and crank it up to unbelievable.

[@richtea615]

One of the most brutal owns in cinema history right there.

[@WarlockX4]

@J C I feel the same way bro. That's why it's hard for me to watch Tom cruise movies.

[@earthfederationspaceforce9844]

this is CG, that is CG, you are CG, I AM CG

[@erezshiri3653]

"Can I copy your homework?" "Yes but change some things so it won't look identical"

[@joshpart3319]

more like "I'm gonna reuse this exact same homework I made years ago and change it a little bit; it's a different teacher he won't notice"

[@sashimi879]

You're making yourself look like a dumb fuck.

[@erezshiri3653]

@@sashimi879 oh damn this are alot of likes thanks bro I didn't know

[@bevoburn]

Works every time

[@606danco]

That sir is what i call the a team method just change a little and Iam good to go

[@ahuman9864]

I just don’t understand why they couldn’t give everyone what they wanted. More John, more Sarah and more Arnie. They literally showed how possible that was in the opening 3 minutes.

[@alexielmarquay]

I know right ? The moment I heard that John dies at the beginning I decided to keep my money.

[@jonathanhenriques2459]

Rightttt?! obviously it wasn’t them because they’re older. But it looked good enough for me

[@soulbrother5435]

If future Terminator installments want to be something valuable as it is they should dump Arnie. His appearance in Dark Fate was depressing enough and I dont want to see 80 year old man kicking asses with bad cgi in my Terminator 7. And yes Im big fan of Terminator, Arnie is iconic but its in the past now

[@Dark6997]

@@soulbrother5435 Honestly I think Salvation was the right idea just not pulled off as well as it could have been. What I would've done is go off from Terminator 2 but a new threat pops it head and they realize they can't go back in the past to solve things they need to deal with things in the here and now for a better future. And of course bring back John Connor

[@thunderspark1536]

@@Dark6997 That's a very good idea. Having it be set in a mostly modern future or even the current day, with robots coming not from the future but from right now. We can't build a machine to go back yet, so we must fight the terminators rising up now. Sorry of an odd mishmash between t3 and salvation. Or hell, just salvation but better. Having a story about John slowly building the resistance in a war torn world would be sick, instead of...salvation.

[@nigelbrayshaw2709]

"I want fans to feel like, we're not just telling the same story over again" *scratches nose

[@3takoyakis]

_genesys crying on the corner_

[@Toastrackman]

If it aint broke, don't fix it.

[@g.d.graham2446]

Lol

[@mackenziecarver6807]

Everyone: That’s exactly what you did!

[@vitkriklan2633]

The director going "this is all digital" is one of the most depressing things, I've ever seen.

[@CapnArrich]

And then that sweet helicopter shot going under that bridge, and they were all wait, what?

[@alexandrucristian289]

Back when they made terminator 2, the CGI wasn't that good, now in 2019, the CGI is as good as you can't tell the difference from real ( see transformers movies, when i first saw the first movie of transformers in 2007, i was , wait, it's that real?) Making it CGI is easier and cheaper now, and looks very good, so, if you can't realy tell which is which, why does it matter if is real or CGI or why is it depressing from your point of view? Are you more of a old school kind of doing? I am a professional photographer and image retoucher, digital artist, so, from my point of view, why should i go old cameras and films and red room to develop pictures? does that makes sense to you now? going digital offers me this whole range of possibilities for my photos, i don't have to spend hours to develop my photos, and chemicals which are bad for my health, and you had to know how to develop, how much chemicals to use, which ones and so on...films are expensive, and you can shoot only 30-80 images on one, where on the sd cards, you shoot 1.000+, so....making a comparison from this, try and understand why now all movie makers goes 90% digital. Yeah the movie wasn't that great, but still, the CGI was great and going 95% CGI isn't a bad thing. Stay safe.

[@nonAehT]

@@alexandrucristian289 It is all about how the CGI is used. (And cgi effects, and digital filming of the footage are two very different things) While it is true that visual effects have improved drastically, and there are films who use them in fantastic ways (District 9, Mad Max Fury Road) for some of those effects you still either consciously or subconsciously notice that something is off. Blood and gore effects especially fall victim to this. John wick 3 for example is an enjoyable movie, but the Blood effects just don't look convincing and dulled some of the impact on the action. John Rambo had a similar issue, with Blood effects that you could tell at first glance were digitally added later, since blood was flying, but no impact holes appeared when people were shot. Additionally in my opinion practical effects bring out better actor performance. The iconic Chest Burster scene in Aliens(The actors didn't know what was going to come out), or the horrifiying creations of "The Thing" would probably not have produced the same authenticity of reactions by the actors, if you had told them to imagine what would happen and filmed the scenes with dummies/placeholders. It's the difference of imagining seeing something vile and repulsive, or actually seeing something that is vile and repulsive right in front of you.

[@nonAehT]

In a way it's like martial arts movies where people don't actually hit each other, or when a cgi body gets thrown around. It looks real "enough" but you can tell when something really hurts(In the Mortal Kombat movie for example one of the things the stunt coordinator said was "If you get hurt, just keep going, chances are it looks real and you wont have to do it again", leading to fight scenes beeing rated internally by the number of broken ribs they caused) and it's the reason many modern hollywood action movies just lack the impact to make them truly enjoyable for me. The Thai movie "Born to Fight" is a great example of a movie where the stunts are painfully real, which makes for an intense action experience. If you know no one is in danger (since it's cgi) the action has less of an impact. In the outtakes you see people getting kicked of moving trucks, with the actor pulling his head away from the moving tire in the last second before it would crush his skull. The hero gets hit with a real burning log, with real sparks flying etc. You FEEL how the actors are hurting from what happened, because it really did most of the time and this translates to audiences in a much more visceral way than cgi can. Those guys were so proud of their stuntwork, you can see most of the raw footage/test runs/bloopers of the biggest stunts during the credits and seeing what insane shit they put themselves through just makes it so much more enjoyable and impressive.

[@alexandrucristian289]

@@nonAehT "John Rambo had a similar issue, with Blood effects that you could tell at first glance were digitally added later, since blood was flying, but no impact holes appeared when people were shot. " That's the digital artist fault of missing some elements , and that's what gave away the CGI and make it look fake, otherwise, it would have look real. "Additionally in my opinion practical effects bring out better actor performance. The iconic Chest Burster scene in Aliens(The actors didn't know what was going to come out), or the horrifiying creations of "The Thing" would probably not have produced the same authenticity of reactions by the actors, if you had told them to imagine what would happen and filmed the scenes with dummies/placeholders. It's the difference of imagining seeing something vile and repulsive, or actually seeing something that is vile and repulsive right in front of you." From my point of view, i'm not an actor, but, as a professional photographer, and digital artist ( composites ) not being able to see the "alien" let's say, and act very good and convincing that there's a real and scary alien there, that's a real good acting. Some actor can't act even if they see the thing, so, at the end it's a matter of the actor/actress and not if is CGI or robotics/pupets. I believe that a good actor is the actor who can act good even if he/she imagine there's an evil or bad thing happening. Most of the time when i do compositing, it's like making a puzzle without knowing the end result, i just have to imagine the final result and use the pieces i have, or if i shot the pieces myself, i already know what the end results i want it to be, because i know why i shot the pieces of the puzzle in the first place. If that makes sense to you. Stay safe.

[@alexdinu589]

Sarah: I'll be back Terminator fans: We won't

[@CasualGamingEnthusiast]

James Cameron need to be back as the director.

[@enclavesoldier5842]

Good one

[@wahabfiles6260]

actually we were back! saw the movie in cinema with the boys.

[@predator7939]

We definitely won't be back if you keep rehashing the same movie over and over again.

[@jevinday]

right? who the fuck is watching these movies? I guess this is the kind of movie that cool dads bring their 8 year old kid to and the kid ends up loving the hell out of it.

[@Kolateak_]

"Come with me, or you'll die in the next 30 seconds" Come on, just use it at that point, that's honestly worse than not using the phrase It's probably the second most 'Terminator' line after "I'll be back"

[@Ghost7065]

The new line was cringe.

[@veximmortalis8622]

I'll.. return in the next 30 seconds!

[@MonsieurBig]

Die with me or you'll come in the next 30 seconds

[@mizocarbazarofficial]

The worst part is too much CGI

[@honeywellparts7541]

Indian people could use that CGI a lot better

[@dreamersiminegev6203]

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[@Fif0l]

CGI is not a problem. Bad CGI is.

[@joethegreat1008]

@@Fif0l exactly

[@owyemen9367]

@@Fif0l there is also something such as too much cgi, most new blockbuster movies look like they're animated movies most of the time

[@dragonkeeper19600]

"These characters in this car are CG." "This car right here is CG." "Digital sparks coming off here." "All the blood is digital." Geez, man, just make an animated movie and be done with it.

[@nopansnogains5382]

T2's cgi and special effects was way better then any terminator movie after

[@nopansnogains5382]

And I agree about the cgi tits

[@KneelB4Bacon]

"The writing here? All digital. It's a cut-and-paste of the script from the last movie."

[@Press_X_to_doubt]

@@TheLexiconDevils Thumbs down but I like her body physique 😄

[@earthfederationspaceforce9844]

this is CG, that is CG, you are CG, I AM CG

[@eugeneruby433]

"Runs like a scary Tom Cruise" is the best description of Robert Patrick's T1000 stride I've ever heard.

[@mikesmollin8908]

Tom Cruise is very scary already though, especially when he runs, I have seen Collateral. So I think he just runs like Tom, period

[@DanielSlva]

@@mikesmollin8908 No one runs like Tom.

[@edpotter1170]

Kyle Reese: protect John! Arnold: protect John! Sarah: protect John! Dark Fate: new phone who dis?

[@andrewrivera190]

What also makes Arnie’s Terminator in T2 special is it subverts the expectations of those who watched T1. If you didn’t know the plot of T2 you would assume he was the villain based on your knowledge from T1. I guess T2 is so popular though not many people would really care about the plot twist though.

[@jknetwork6211]

Wrong! It should have been “How Fake Originality TERMINATED a Legacy”.

[@Ghost.8456]

He changed it lol

[@jknetwork6211]

Ghost8456 he took my advice awesome! 😂👌

[@shedblood1645]

what was it before?

[@thegax7593]

what was the original title? i'm only now seeing it, so i'm very curious haha

[@jknetwork6211]

Shed Blood “destroyed”

[@zerocalvin]

"It's not Skynet, it's legion.. an AI build for warfare" at that moment the best thing to do would have Sarah to say "so it's Skynet"

[@capthavic]

Yeah but they probably didn't want to draw any more attention to how shamelessly they plagiarized the previous films.

[@Bakamatsu-GojiFanArchive]

@@capthavic no it's just as time moves on things change...

[@LUCKO2022]

Which is what pisses me off. Basically they got rid of SKYNET, and now they have a new AI called Legion which ACTS EXACTLY LIKE SKYNET. So a COMPLETE NEW AI BUILT BY DIFFERENT COMPANIES AND PEOPLE ACT EXACTLY LIKE THE PREVIOUS ONE AKA SKYNET. It even makes Terminators EXACTLY LIKE SKYNET, and time travel EXACTLY LIKE SKYNET. That shows how bankrupt and stupid Hollywood truly is.

[@Bakamatsu-GojiFanArchive]

@@LUCKO2022 ok boomer

[@Seoul_Soldier]

@@Bakamatsu-GojiFanArchive Go clean your room or no juice box you punk ass zoomer.

[@TritonsGuard]

One of the worst parts about killing John is that they never even showed why he is so important. It has only been spoken of, and what has been said about him? He is going to become an extremely good military commander. This has great potential to be something that people will want to see, and they threw it away for no reason other than to put someone else in his place in an unreasonable move to appeal to another audience yet believing their current one would appreciate it.

[@yourmatetom]

you're editing is top notch my friend. Bravo. "Oh good for you!" haha

[@renwarosman1399]

Your*

[@gonzalvarodri]

@@renwarosman1399 you*

[@Werewolf.with.Internet.Access]

@@renwarosman1399 Yeur

[@Faucaux]

@@renwarosman1399 yerr

[@LukeSykpeMan]

@@Faucaux Yarr matey!

[@Rocksteady72a]

"This car is not really there" "This door is not really there" "This guard rail is not actually there" "And this good movie is not really there." is what I half-expected him to circle the entire frame and say.

[@fxzero666]

Sick burn!

[@LukeAvedon]

LOL!

[@beewell1600]

i wish he could read this

[@wanderinghistorian]

So you see dear watchers, I'm a fraud.

[@lagbait3076]

It's ok, from what I can tell the audience wasn't really there either.

[@jdpc9391]

Imagine if the girl had been the one to create Legion and that the robot had been sent to the past to protect her while the human had sent someone to kill her. Invert the story that way would have been way better.

[@mr.nobody9697]

Thats fine but the story is still stupid because it made the first two films irrelevant. This is basically a different non related film. This might as well have been just a reboot unrelated to the franchise.

[@eddiea8468]

This actually would have been the perfect way to 'reboot' the Terminator franchise. It would have been perfect. It would have been a twist that actually made this movie worth remembering. EDIT: Just realised that if they went with this, they wouldn't have had to include John Connor in the story at all. They could have just said that John and Sarah were off doing their own thing, prepping for the War, avoiding Terminators, etc... while this new character was struggling to survive and wondering why human assassins from the future kept trying to kill her, and why the robots seemed to love her so much. Could have even made it a nice examination of John's character: is Future John really the idealised, almost messianic figure the early movies make him out to be, if he would send soldiers back in time to kill an (at the moment) innocent girl? They could have done so much with this concept. It could have been the Joker of the Terminator franchise - a way to show the 'other side' of a classic story without disrespecting the original concept. Hell, they could have had the woman eventually create the killer AI in self-defence - as a way to upgrade her original robot protector and help it keep her safe from increasingly more desperate/advanced of Future Human Assassins. They could have written a story where it is John Connor's attempt to meddle in the past that ultimately give rise to the killer AI in the future, just like how it was Skynet's attempt to kill Sarah Connor in the past that ultimately led to the conception of John. Instead we got Dark Fate. Which was alright, but just hearing your idea made me realise just how much better it could have been.

[@DarkNaifu]

And of course, Skynet was destroyed in T2. So Sarah and John lived happily ever after.

[@fxzero666]

At this point, almost any storyline that does something new would be better... like Salvation which was only brought down by shitty acting and aesthetics (enough gray?)

[@mr.nobody9697]

@@fxzero666 The plot was also nonsensical. One of the dumbest scripts in the franchise.

[@tariqahmed4532]

I really feel sad about the fact that all my childhood movies are ruined by Hollywood and it's unnecessary agendas

[@kachiggamybigga9481]

This.

[@CubiCNooBiC]

You dont have to be sad, you saw the good movies, what really sad is that younger generation will probably see that new crap and that what really sad, you should consider yourself lucky actually.

[@pats3212]

It's not even the agenda, it's just bad writing

[@justastudent1423]

There is no agenda other than reusing a recognizable IP to generate revenue

[@guerrerosioux]

Terminator, Predator, Robocop, Alien... One day, art historians will examine the movies of this time to say "What a fuck happened???"

[@gameplaytru]

When I saw the scene where young John Connor was killed on the beach and just disregard all the things that they've done in previous movies, then that's the time I lost interest in it.

[@JebusCookies]

"The only thing it progresses is the idea that all women and people of different cultures are good for is repeating what white men already did" an amazing philosophical statement that cuts so deeply at the heart of what is plaguing the entirety of western culture. Well said sir

[@ShadyCloud313]

Yes that was a good statement I replayed it like 3 times Hollywood just don't seem to get it, they made all these changes just to make it more diverse just to tell the same story

[@KneelB4Bacon]

Hollywood is out of ideas because they don't have any quality writers left. Hollywood is the place where dreams go to die, now. That's why they make endless reboots and remakes. I'm so glad that smaller producers like Netflix, Hulu and Amazon Prime are turning out some quality content. I hope this trend continues.

[@kingMadnus]

Ironically enough in T2 it was a black man responsible

[@montebrown54]

By SJW's own standards this is "cultural appropriation."

[@charlienash1050]

@moz zo go and fuck yourself you pesky worthless sjw fanboy

[@RedThorn]

It's simple: Imagine building up a character over two movies, getting the audience to like and care about that character's fate and struggle over those two movies, and then killing said character off in the first 2 minutes of the third movie, only to replace him with another character who is destined to do the same exact thing he was supposed to do. No matter what, your audience is going to naturally feel cheated out of seeing the character they've become invested in and grown to care about chucked away like rotting meat and then replaced with a substitute that is not written even half as interesting. In just two minutes, you've already written a recipe for failure.

[@DonVigaDeFierro]

That's basically how admiral Ackbar was replaced by "Whole Dough" in The Last Jedi. Although, having a character named "Ackbar" dying in a suicide attack would have been awkward...

[@sonnic1995]

For some reason makes me think of when they decided "F*k the T-Rex, here's a new dinosaur we're forcing you to like because we want to sell more toys, basically the same but in n ew shape" from Jurassic Park 3.

[@jaydoode15]

They could have just hired Edward Furlong to reprise his role and have Arnold be his protector as an aged T-800, just like in Genysis and Dark Fate, but let's be honest, it still wouldn't have been as good as the first two films.

[@montanabboy]

Alien 3

[@imotogin]

Showing John's death in the trailers would be a better move than what they did. At least people would have some time to absorb the shock. Like, they just killed John f*cking Connor before my eyes, do I care about the new characters? or the movie? Hell, I need a lot of vodka to forget what I just saw! A week's worth of drinking, and then probably therapy. Jokes aside, yeah, Dark Fate was the worst short film I ever saw, and the rest of it just doesn't exist for me.

[@brunomenezes9011]

You can say this franchise really had a dark fate.

[@Awesoman]

The Terminator franchise came to a logical, satisfying conclusion with the second movie. Which is why every subsequent film seems pointless and redundant. There was never a need for more sequels. The only way a meaningful third installment could stand a chance is if Cameron had been fully on board as both writer and director.

[@kaineshigaraki5253]

The 7th Terminator film will have Cameron as the writer and the director [>

[@captaindeadpool313]

T2 used a real helicopter in 1991 Dark Fate used cgi in 2019. Despite being a newer movie, it's still fake as shit. They couldn't even use real cars for god sake. The franchise is dead R.I.P it's legacy. Dark Fate made Salvation look like Avengers.

[@NateTech1]

Check out this video about CG: kzbin.info/www/bejne/mH2ZmaNud7B1aJY

[@SeaGLGaming]

T2 used a real helicopter while Dark Fate couldn't even use real signs. Like, wtf. Just seems they wanted to blow a budget. I mean, the only CG that's truly needed in a Terminator film is for the Terminators and potential gore. Hell, even in Genisys, they flipped an actual bus.

[@NKraven88]

@@NateTech1 Yes CGI is nice, but it is about augmenting our reality, not replacing it. We are getting close to making a complete CGI movie that is indistinguishable from reality. But these complaints are how an over reliance on CGI causes people to become lazy. The reliance of we will fix it in post, when if you tried to film the scene where a car has its door ripped off by another car, the car would change course because of the impact. You notice these things if you tried to film them. how people react when sparks fly close to their face. They act better because.... its not acting. its reacting. They can be done safely and in doing the car door bit then CGing the actress in the seat the scene may have turned out different because the car would react to the impact.

[@ghost_pl9259]

Just because they use CGI doesnt make the movie bad. Horrible story does that.

[@saljpal3]

I love when certain continuations that I like get shit on and then another sequel comes out that's even worse and suddenly to previous film isn't to bad. It's what happened to Terminator Salvation and it also happened to the Star Wars prequel trilogy. lol

[@thequietknitter9107]

changing characters' gender / race / costume in the SAME story isn't a new story. It's a second draft.

[@LadyFairChildVideo]

it's SJW and forced inclusion , is what it is.

[@DaScorpionSting]

Agree

[@CRAM079]

that should have gotten rejected, then shredded.

[@LadyFairChildVideo]

@@CRAM079 you mean terminated. lol

[@faz6877]

I don't understand why Tim Miller was acting like he created anything new. Anything he changed he replaced with a watered down version of itself. John is replaced by a character following the exact same beats only not done as well. Skynet is replaced with Legion only is now generic CGI BS. And the entire plot is really mirroring T2. Right down to Arnold sacrificing himself at the end. Terrible

[@fishyfish6510]

After Salvation's ending I really waited to see the victory of the Resistance in the next movie and what did I get. The same thing all over again!!

[@g.d.graham2446]

Indeed

[@anandhua.b4589]

*"ok you can copy my homework but don't make it too obvious"*

[@jarturolopez77]

the mad Bale lines are the fkn best "I'm human" "OOOOH GOOOD FOR YOU!"

[@lukebatchelor717]

really should use those for future videos too not just terminator related LOL

[@romancapulus5577]

Tim Miller: “This is digital. That’s digital. That’s not really there. Who’s gonna know?” James Cameron: “So that helicopter that’s flying under a freeway overpass is actually legit.” Love the comparison 😁

[@xgray2012]

Yeah, Tim Miller is a douchebag. I can see why James Cameron said that this guy was difficult to work with in his interview about producing "Terminator: Dork Fate".

[@MrRetroDev]

It's more funny when you look at the time Tom Cruise _actually_ ran down, and jumped from, the Burj Khalifa. After that you can't really have excuses to make small things, like car crashes, using CGI

[@dasmorbo3508]

@@xgray2012 Lol my commnt got deleted. I called Tim Miller a corporate tool insulting everyone, especially his audience.

[@grahamcreese5665]

Hmmm cool name im a creesy too lol G

[@christopherregan1654]

Then there's the time that Tom Cruise actually hung on the outside of a real airplane that actually took off on a real runway!

[@redpie2002]

I'll say this as many times I can: If something works, don't touch it.

[@woongah]

"You see that helicopter flying under a freeway overpass? That is a helicopter flying under a freeway overpass". Cameron is a maniac.

[@lauraamg3193]

The new terminator should've had the audio of Christian Bale freaking out as a way to scare the humans. That would've been original.

[@leo-sj6un]

Bruh i remember that shit😂

[@stranger59]

OOOOH, GOOOOOD for you! And how was it?

[@lauraamg3193]

@@stranger59 "I hope it was fucking great because it's useless now, isn't it?" The terminator franchise after T2

[@nt78stonewobble]

Pft lol :D

[@Xenadroid]

They should remake salvation where this time it shows how john actually formed the human resistance and how he actually was able to send Kyle Reese back in time and should explore the relationship between the characters

[@jimbowlan5804]

Salvation was ok but to me it wasn’t the future war I imagined I feel like dawn of fate game would have made a better movie because I loved how they showed Kyle Reese as he battles his way to the time displacement machine and the ending is the terminator and him going through time

[@Eternaldarkness3166]

They could even turn the entire future war into a Netflix series

[@Bankable2790]

I honestly can’t remember if any of the sequels covers this because they are all so God awful I’ve tried to forget them as best as possible. But yeah, I would love to relationship between John, Kyle Reese, and Sarah

[@DmytroBogdan]

Except now its Jane Connor

[@Xenadroid]

@@DmytroBogdan lmao

[@theKRB93]

6:17 "who runs like a scary Tom Cruise" 🤣🤣🤣

[@axiom3]

I like Salvation, I think it's the catalyst that shows the early days of how John Connor command and lead humanity to victory. It's such a shame they reset EVERYTHING.

[@tiaferrandino4881]

I agree.

[@jwnj9716]

When guys like Cameron & Del Toro do a sequel, finish, you can't beat it. It should have ended with T2. I don't mind Salvation, that's the direction they should go. Why not do the future war but also add the horror elements from the first movie?

[@poweroffriendship2.0]

According to Ryan Hollinger in his Terminator video, it implied that the first movie is basically a slasher film in disguise. I'm not gonna lie because that's supposed to be a terrifying. It's normal to put another element in a main genre which it's called subgenres.

[@jwnj9716]

Well he's not wrong. The Terminator's score alone is creepy with the heartbeat sound. Even when I got on VHS, it was in the slasher section.

[@ColePhelps-cv2qh]

Cameron needs to stop.

[@SSingh-nr8qz]

@@poweroffriendship2.0 I was going to write the same thing. T1 was specially a horror movie when you think about it. Yes has sci fi, but so do movies like The Thing or other scifi horror movies. To be fair, many action movies during that time were gruesome, so it would be easy to mistake this action movie's horror motivations.

[@anarex0929]

They should have stuck with the salvation trilogy. Everyone wanted to see Christian Bale do a John Connor that showed what happened after the bomb fell all the way up to sending his dad back in time to knock his mom up. Fuck they should of finnished the TV show. It shows how the Terminator gets skinned put on it, and just had a lot of fan service and love that went into it. And putting the Christian Revelations theology intermixed with it was quite inventive and added to the creepyness and dread of what was to come. or that scene when the FBI agent actually gets to have a conversation with the Terminator and lives, with the Terminator repeating the religious line of the devil "we will see". It was a great show.

[@leandrocesar5487]

As James Franco says: "Same Same... BUT DIFFERENT... But still same"

[@edevaldosilva3104]

Hahahah

[@leeswift7883]

I was looking for this lol

[@vollied4865]

I actually disagree about 1 thing in here: terminator genesys did do something new, it made John Connor the villain. The main issue is they type casted the shit out of his actor and gave it away the moment you look up the poor guys acting history. Genesys had the most potential to Kickstart a whole new time line where Sarah Connor is the main protag instead of John, and they casted her perfectly but the royally fucked up John and that was the biggest issue it had. Unlike dark fate just ripped off t1 and t2 while being WOKE af because apparently Sarah Connor wasn't woman enough for sjws. Also t3 wasn't a bad movie it only had bad casting and empty characters it had all the makings of a decent movie they just needed to cast someone not a stoner for John conner and actually write his wife as a goddamn character instead of an empty head with ovaries.

[@_SP64_]

Seriously it could have gone T1-T2-Salvation Trilogy. None of this woke bullshit. If Salvation had better execution and the trilogy for it happened it could have wrapped up the story perfectly with the 1st one being John forming the resistance and climbing the ranks. The 2nd film would be John meeting Marcus and Kyle developing their friendship and showed the progression of the war and how John commands the Resistance with them beginning to successfully counteract Skynet. The 3rd film would be the Final Offensive with Skynet beginning to collapse, but having one card up its sleeve with the T-800 taken from the factory and given the mission to kill Sarah with John finding out and sending Kyle to protect Sarah in 1984 and thus connecting all the films.

[@no1up]

The, the girl they got to play Sarah was a butter faced, little kitten.. Look at sarah in T2 and tell me they the same?

[@WillFons]

That was the best integration of a sponsor that I've ever seen in a youtube video haha well done

[@behzadmirmozaffari2563]

Compared to this garbage, Salvation was a timeless masterpiece!

[@gagecowin2832]

Agreed

[@Mi_tala]

Even tho is abit off,at least it try diffrence

[@Swaggmire215]

Yes😣😣😣😣

[@abstraction6212]

only by a slight margin

[@Chillchildren999]

Salvation should’ve been the Conclusion of the Series

[@notahotshot]

When I watched this movie, five minutes in I thought, "Why didn't I just watch T2?" It's literally like a poorly remastered video game, where all they did was change the textures, and called it a new game.

[@vegeta8169]

And made it suck.

[@damnyejustgotbewitchedbyth2802]

Just like Fifa

[@Mystxfy]

so super mario 3d all stars?

[@Ghost7065]

I fell asleep within the first 12 minutes. I thought the action felt soulless thus boring.

[@PolnocneGranie]

That ending was briliant. Down to earth summary why "political correctness" is so flawed and only hurts the people.

[@g.d.graham2446]

So it seems

[@tobias064]

nah, being racist hurts people. That's a good but most importantly, a real example.

[@pats3212]

Political correctness isnt the problem in itself, it's the misuse of it

[@absosa493]

I was ready to hear 'fetch me their souls' 😂 0:00

[@johnweber4577]

“So you destroy the legacy of Terminator 2, just to redo Terminator 2 in a way that is not even half as great.” Which is exactly what the Star Wars sequels wound up doing as well.

[@luichinplaystation610]

Genesys was a redo of T1 and T2 before this

[@johnweber4577]

@Blizzard Gaming In colloquial terms “as well” means doing the “same as” not “is good”. I was saying that the Star Wars sequels fumbled the franchise legacy just as much as Dark Fate did fit its own.

[@Thegamer10113]

@@luichinplaystation610 yeah but it drops that after the 15 minute nostalgic intro and takes on a whole new shitshow

[@classicgalactica5879]

Same with the Jurassic Park franchise. The second movie wrapped things up beautifully. That should have been it.

[@lalkiran1950]

@@classicgalactica5879 jurrassic park itself isn't a franchise There was no franchise for jurrassic park It had only one movie and others were fanfiction

[@xxx-pliskin-sniper-xxx8538]

“You are not the mother of some man that saves the future”, you can just tell they were all trumboning each other when that was like was written.

[@dochvtech22]

True! Ps. Look up Gene kim n Chuck missler on KZbin

[@sagarsudhirganu8735]

Disrespecting John Connor totally...

[@yahaaa1343]

Having an AI caugth in the middle of the figth between machines and humanity plus time travel to the future to stop the war is prety much the core of the Sarah Connor Chronicle. I think it's a very interesting idea not too badly realised. But i also think T3 well deserve to exists by completing and closing the story arc of the Terminator franchise by delivering the idea that the war is inescapable, all there is to do is survive it. Thanks for the vid.

[@ivanthehighman177]

13:32 dude, your ideas for a good next terminator are amazing.

[@klouddsurferful]

The studio's biggest mistake was taking John Connor completely out of the story. The main protagonist should have been his daughter, having Sarah go from being a bad*ss mother to being a bad*ss overprotective grandmother. She (John's daughter) would have represented a lingering legacy, and one who seeks to fill her father's shoes while combating a new threat. It would have kept the story effectively emotional and domestic, like the first sequel rather than turning it into some hollow action adventure. Edit/Update: Wow, thanks for reading guys, and thanks for all the likes!

[@Anand_Ilangovan]

Mind Blowing!!! That is exactly the correct route the franchise should have taken, instead this movie became the dumbest among the three reboots!!! (When you think about it, T3 and T5 are actually reboots too, and all reboots of the terminator franchise have failed)

[@JunayedMahin]

id be happy if they just did a jhon connor saves his family from a single terminator . But demolishing Greatness(T2) that u cant never touch is just awful it pisses me off .

[@shr1mpsush1]

Why in the actual fuck can a guy in the KZbin Comments section come up with a better premise for a Terminator movie than Hollywood screenwriters?

[@Anand_Ilangovan]

@@shr1mpsush1 Hollywood cares only about money, not people's opinions

[@tiffanyswartz1064]

We all know in like 10 or so years there is probably going to be another sequel or reboot or remake

[@cardhouseproductions9538]

I really liked that 2019 this door is cg, the side rail is cg, the people in the car are cg, sparks are cg... 1991 “Now see this helicopter flying under the over pass, now that is actually interesting. It’s a helicopter flying under an over pass.” “Oh that was real?” I love it.

[@Chastity_Belt]

They blow up real building to film Cyberdine Systems scene...

[@TangoNevada]

If you're going to hate on all movies that use CGI from this point on, you're going to hate a lot of movies.

[@v44n7]

@@TangoNevada well I do already. most CGI looks awfull. And actors arent good at working around cgi. It look stupid AF most of the time. Make a full animation movie, whatever, but the mixed up thing is getting out of hand.

[@TangoNevada]

@@v44n7 I'm not saying I disagree, but you're pushing sand uphill if you think you're going to change the inevitable.

[@v44n7]

@@TangoNevada I am not saying I am going to change It, but I don't enjoy most movies anymore. Just a handpick per year

[@ahabduennschitz7670]

One Quote that fits this movie best is from my favourite Man James Franco: "Same... but different"

[@jerevirvalo1799]

Best sponsor talk ever. First time im not skipping sponsor part XD

[@rutgerhauer7386]

"You are not the mother of some MAN who saves the future" And there it is.

[@user-gp6ny7yu2b]

Fuck you

[@sonny2854]

yep lol fucking liberals dog shit

[@robertthebruce6035]

Exfuckinxactly yup. Ya found it.

[@Ayrton866]

😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@theALTF4]

thaaaat just screams insecurity...and proyecting your personal bias n insecurities in your ̶f̶u̶r̶s̶o̶n̶a̶ movies protagonists. the same kind of writing i expect from a 16 yo' deviant artist' fanfic going troug an emotional crysis sad, coz i like (actual) strong women doing cool shit (old PPG for example )

[@jayhartRIC]

This is basically the same way I felt about The Force Awakens

[@alexnorth3393]

Force Awakens was good.

[@orkinho1]

@@alexnorth3393 If you have a low IQ

[@mar10ssj1]

Take any classic property and the sentiment remains the same. Terminator, Robocop, Star Wars, Star Trek, Tron, Predator, Alien, the list goes on, and on, and on, and on, and on, and on, and on, and on, and on, and on, and on, and you get the idea.

[@Ben-kz2km]

OK, the NordVPN ad at the end was the best NordVPN shoutout I've seen so far

[@slavsquatsuperstar]

Haha I got an ad for the “All New Chevy Corvette” in the middle of the video and immediately thought of your car analogy XDDD

[@ShopperKungVtuber]

man can't wait for next movie they kill this main girl and have the next new future resistant and the new robot send back in time to kill him/her and new robot to protect him/her again....

[@gaberio334]

ShopperKung TVplay what if there wasn’t a protective terminator sent back from the future? What if the good guys in the future weren’t able to send someone to help defend the main protagonist in the present. How long would the main character in the present last against a single terminator? Just a thought.

[@spud2063]

@@gaberio334 not very long unless they are gonna mary sue their way thru it all.

[@blamcheese]

Nah they probably keep this main girl and transform her into a Mary Sue trans superhero who prefers to be non binary and will wage war with modern men

[@Aemond2024]

whats the next main gonna be? A gay trans black kid in a wheelchair?

[@tiffanyswartz1064]

Or a remake to the first movie would be nice

[@weathforjr]

This was fun. Other reviewers have done "this film is bad" to death; You, have done "why this is bad". Much more substantive.

[@LinkMarioSamus]

This film got vastly better reviews than the previous two Terminator films yet lots of people say it's just as bad if not worse. Just find it strange that we all act like a movie with a 70% on RT is "bad", but then again that is LOWER than both Ghostbusters 2016 and Kingdom of the Crystal Skull... The way I see it, critics were probably suckered in by nostalgia, since the R rating and the involvement of Linda Hamilton and James Cameron probably made them nostalgic for the old Terminator films and colored their view of it. Additionally, Genisys came out right after Mad Max: Fury Road while this film didn't have a comparable juggernaut to deal with, plus to them the sheer fact it was rated R and not PG-13 changed their view drastically because they just wrote Genisys off as another tentpole blockbuster by comparison. See: Rise of Skywalker got much worse reviews than this movie yet seems to have gone at least somewhat better with audiences.

[@davidgantenbein9362]

LinkMarioSamus I attribute the high rating of this movie partially to the fact that it had way less audience. The people watching it wanted to see this movie, so they rated it high, while the rest stayed at home. And as Filmento shows, it is not a bad movie thanks to being a remake of a really great movie. It’s main flaws are that we have already seen the superior version and that it is an insult to the fans of that superior version. Just this time the fans stayed at home. Hell, every single movie from the franchise did better then this new movie, showing that the fans clearly anticipated correctly what was in store. Yes, I admit, this one is the one Terminator movie I did not watch ... I was simply not willing to watch it before somebody like Filmento would show me that it would be worth to watch ... so yeah, not going to watch it.

[@LinkMarioSamus]

David Gantenbein I was referring to the critics, not audiences. But good point.

[@Ugenesis2010]

@@LinkMarioSamus I see your point but tbh alot of ppl don't take Rotton Tomatoes seriously is because some of the movies critic scores are vastly different then the audience score and when you look as to why it is then you can see the critics biasness. For example alot of ppl from a huge margin thought the new Dave Chappelle netflix special was really good, however the critic score, scored it extremely low. When you look into why you can't help but notice that Dave Chappelle pretty much called out PC culture so they almost couldn't rate it high for fear of going against their bias. Another example is Captain Marvel which most agreed was an okay movie at best, yet critics scored it as an amazing movie, because again personal bias and agenda pushing. Heck they gave Ghost busters 2016 a 74 percent, when most agreed that it was an objectively bad movie with the audience score being 50 percent (now me personally i don't think that movie was the worst thing I ever seen but it wasn't really good either.) I can go on.

[@kurokoro]

I did like this movie, I mean is not T2 good but its better than the rest for me, I would say my order would be T2,T1,TDarkfate,Tgenysis,T4Salvation and T3.

[@Peterski]

Probably the best sponsor segway ever :-)

[@noelburland7169]

I think you hit the nail on the head with your assessment of Terminator: Dark Fate. The biggest problem for me is the decision to "go woke" by unceremoniously killing off John Connor and replacing him with a petite, Mexican girl who no one appeared to connect with. This hair-brained decision (sadly by James Cameron, the man who created the first two films that are legendary), led to people who may have gone and seen it in cinemas to change their minds when getting wind of what they had done, resulting in the film becoming a box office bomb and effectively "terminating" the franchise for good. In recent years there has been a trend of replacing prominent and mostly memorable white male characters with women. Film examples other than Dark Fate are the Ghostbusters reboot and the Star Wars sequel trilogy. TV examples are Doctor Who and the Batwoman TV series (which even had the catchphrase that the suit fits better now that it's on a woman). I'm not trying to be sexist at all as I would rather see TV and Film content with female leads be their own, original content rather than just replacing male actors in the name of being "woke". Linda Hamilton as Sarah Connor in the first two Terminator films and Sigourney Weaver as Ripley in the Alien franchise are two great examples of women who gave us legendary performances without the need to replace men who had previously done the role. After the box office failure of Dark Fate, which was even more of a middle finger to the franchise than Genysis was, the Terminator franchise appears dead in the water. None of the films since T2 have recaptured the atmosphere of the first two although in parts T3 and Salvation were good. The failed attempts to continue the legacy of the first two films have left people tired of it. There was a video game that came out the same year as Dark Fate called Terminator: Resistance which I think could be this franchise's last hope of salvaging something good from it. This game was set in the post-apocalyptic world and was focused on the end of the war where Skynet is defeated but not before sending Terminators into the past (tying it to the first two films). A TV or movie adaptation of this game could be the only content left in this long-running franchise, as long as they are true to the spirit of it and keep wokeness out of it.

[@darksoul6482]

You are not being sexist. You are being rational. We dont need any strong rude woke Women crap. All we need well written super heros. Regard any gender. Now, We need more white male characters now.. Everytime when I see woke female characters.. Why not create a lovable women character? It makes me vomit.

[@danialtarki572]

Yeah, just make new and original characters rather than replacing white males for the billionth time. It’s not hard to do when diversity is a thing.

[@bluesmaster9896]

"I need your boots your clothes and your menstrualcycle"

[@globalautobahn1132]

😂🤣😂👍

[@theoz-zone7470]

Bwahahaha

[@bewilder6831]

😂🤣😂😆

[@cemsengul16]

Yeah this is totally what the fans wanted. Do these studios hate making money?

[@misspriss2482]

So you're requesting a woman's menstrual cycle? Weird.

[@josegregoriobencomogomez4958]

"Runs like a scary Tom Cruise." ... is there any other kind of Tom Cruise?

[@bone8352]

You clearly haven't seen Legend.

[@josegregoriobencomogomez4958]

@@bone8352 Ah, but that's a character played by Tom Cruise. I'm talking about Tom Cruise himself.

[@bone8352]

@@josegregoriobencomogomez4958 Yeah he may just sacrifice you to his lord and savior Xenu lol.

[@DiegOismoCh]

@@josegregoriobencomogomez4958 he's cool

[@Eliqueme]

Look up Tiny Tom Cruise ( Definitely R e a l )

[@mariopuzo3361]

Filmento always putting the sponsor stuff at the end of the video, like a true gentleman

[@raulaguilargomez8608]

I love all the mad Bale references, yhem are so well placed on the video you almost kill me on each one

[@pumpkinsdontcry]

Canon for me is Terminator 1, Terminator 2 and Terminator Resistance.

[@Eternaldarkness3166]

Terminator (2) 3d: Battle Against time, can't forget about that one either.

[@seenl6eight258]

@@HelghastStalker it’s pretty damn sad how a video game based on a movie is better than it

[@nameless0510]

the canon in my head is terminator salvation then terminator 1 and lastly terminator 2

[@Space_Man909]

Same

[@ebaugh7320]

That's canon for evryone

[@brycevo]

Terminator: I'll be Back Everyone: We know... Unfortunately

[@ChrisG3253032]

Haha, yeah........but in this movie he says "I won't be back". Here's hoping 😉

[@user-gp6ny7yu2b]

Fuck you

[@robertthebruce6035]

@@user-gp6ny7yu2b no you

[@user-gp6ny7yu2b]

@@robertthebruce6035 no you... and your mothers mother's grandmother

[@whocares427]

More like i'll be black lmao

[@kinetsievarvenfloot1237]

"And this whole movie ... right here ... is not really here." -- Tim Miller, 2019.

[@rsacchi100]

I love that commercial at the end.

[@ReverendChance]

It breaks my heart seeing everything going from TRUE action, stunts and practical effects to lifeless digital effects...

[@deonduplessis4126]

Same. CGI has no soul and removes the spectacle I once loved about American movies.

[@RamBam3000]

And mine.... we’ve gone from “How can we best film this sequence in camera?” to “Hey ma! Look what I can do on *my* computer! Herp derp derp!” And I’d also argue that didn’t take very long.

[@Artsy_arod]

Btw the sledge scene in the factory was a mix of practical and special and they matched the actor being hit and her contacting it with the sledge , the scene where he makes the bag a gun was the use of making the gun practical then using a cgi bag over it . Js not all their cgi tricks were lifeless but creative .

[@Profect72]

And people used to make fun of bollywood cgi

[@gvd72]

Ironic considering one of the themes of T2 being Arnie becoming more and more human-like

[@Big_E_Soul_Fragment]

Terminator: Resistance is the best thing that ever came out of the franchise these past few years.

[@jknetwork6211]

The 225677th Fragment of the Man-Emperor of Mankind and don’t forget the terminator dlc for mortal kombat 11

[@anon9740]

The arcade game or the film lol

[@craig9180]

The 225677th Fragment of the Man-Emperor of Mankind - that ending was amazing!

[@raven22at]

Jacob Rivers

[@Nemoticon]

No... everything after T2 is bullshit

[@dannytsunmusic]

This is excellent!! Great video. Couldn't have said it all better myself

[@ferntin4479]

Imagine a teen or kid who's never seen the older movies and this is their first Terminator movie they might end up liking it.

[@Ragnarok8807]

"You think you're human?" "I am human" "OH GOOOOOD FOR YOU!!" I don't know why but that made me laugh for a good thirty seconds.

[@mikeliessmann2490]

I did too. Then, I had to pause a scroll down to make sure I wasn't alone.

[@poweroffriendship2.0]

_"HASTA LA VISTA, BABY!!!"_ *~ said by a cyborg action hero with cool shades and an Austrian accent*

[@Narstrand6]

That nose scratch at 11.27 tells a whole different story than his words.

[@adambarrack]

“Ohhhhh good for youuuuu” I died lmfao

[@funwithtropes69]

The most interesting element in this film happened offscreen: the protagonists facing multiple Terminators sent after them, whose coordinates are sent by a Terminator who rebelled. Instead, they went the other way around.

[@HereticDuo]

Terminator 2: Everything worked Terminator Dark Fate: Everything woke.

[@damianwang4991]

But did it really?

[@fredmad4988]

Nah its Everything Broke.

[@nurse425]

This is what happens when you try to continue a franchise that already had a perfect ending!

[@rjofusetsudzin8011]

@@nurse425 Yep Star Wars could apply for this as well

[@Smalltummywonderful]

Yup, and with this one is just trash

[@aaronskuse2207]

What’s the best sequel for T2? Terminator: Resistance. An Incredible budget game and hot damn the theme remix sends chills down my spine. Resistance only acknowledges the first 2 films made, the original design for adult John Conner is used, tons of Easter eggs, Resistance is the true Terminator 3.

[@dennisk5054]

In 90s when I was in school someone told me that there is Terminator 3, where they built helicopter from the metal they melted both terminators. Arnie came from the right wing and bad one came from the left wing and they were trying to find John to save/kill accordingly. I thought it was dumb, but now I admit that guy's creativity... compared to movies after T2.

[@XfaN888]

killing conor at the begining was hilarious they wiped out whole purpose of first two movies xd

[@No_OneV]

I wonder if anyone walked out the theatre after seeing that lol

[@XfaN888]

@@No_OneV that would have been geniun reaction tho

[@TangoNevada]

I thought it was awesome - The fact that no one considered Skynet sent more than one Terminator. I didn't consider it until I saw the movie. Once I did, I was like, well Duh, that makes total sense. it's Sucks for the Kid playing John (really short screen time) but I didn't have a problem with it.

[@scorpixel1866]

@@TangoNevada Would you happen to like the Disney SW trilogy and TLO2 as well? Just wondering

[@TangoNevada]

​@@scorpixel1866 So is SW Star Wars? I didn't like the 3 that had what his face as a Young Darth Vader. Mostly because they were shitty movies the relied on CGI and had no real serious story beyond that. if you are talking about other SW's movies let me know which ones. As far as TLO2. I won't know until I play it. Once I do, I might hate it or like it. I usually don't play any game when it first comes out. I wait until I can get a used copy for $30.00. What's your issue with TLO2? Have you played it? Does it Suck? Should I save my money?

[@mrbigglezworth42]

The irony of using computers to do things you could've actually done with props and actual cars...... CGI is starting to feel more like a crutch than a tool.

[@marsnz1002]

Starting to? That's been a legitimate criticism of CGI for at least 2 decades.

[@DonVigaDeFierro]

CGI is like plastic surgery: You only notice the bad results..

[@faz6877]

it's unbelievable! When Grace throws those cops through the air like a cartoon it looks ridiculous. Why can't we have a stunt man ? Have her break a few arms or legs (which can be a callback to T2 when arnold kneecaps people). But know we have to make it look like a Marvel movie. That's not Terminator

[@karljeffers2749]

That car analogy got me rollin

[@Fiery891]

Best Terminator sequel (since 2) was the game Terminator Resistance and it was no masterpiece but got core values of the franchise right.

[@Unsujetoquecomenta]

The Director and James cameron in 2019: The blood is CG!!!! The cars are CG!!!! The sparks are CG!!!! All is CG!!!! James cameron in 1991: What about, a chopper under a bringe!!!!

[@wallyhackenslacker]

Get that choppah under that bridge!

[@ladyluna457]

Dear Hollywood: we latinos loved iconic white characters like John Connor. If you want to be progressive, them make new originals characters for us. (The mexinator was cool though...)

[@Zerirs_Archive]

South American here and I agree, we grew up watching Terminator, Lethal weapon, Rambo, and a lot of movies with Arnold, Stallone and Mel.

[@smuglord5057]

And when its a new character their personality is their race/gender/sexuality.

[@thenewyoutuber4798]

They did make original characters. You said that like John Connor was race swiped

[@theALTF4]

wowowowowowoooooowwwww dont u see hermano u r being guite guashed and manipulated by the guite elits...u dont know this but u are being a tuul for de patriarshe... something-something...unconsicios ̶B̶S̶ guait bias..shmomting... ur wrong bc u dont alienate with us and that makes u wrong jk, but i agree with you, if i want kick ass representation, gimme guddang EL TIGRE! or el libro de la vida! those series ROCKED! or jsut make cool likeable characters that we can relate despite their diference to us. (heck! i take bumblebee man over this)

[@Magnet_Chaos]

@@thenewyoutuber4798 You are right. John Connor was race swiped AND gender swiped.

[@TechCom101]

Thankfully, I'm doing a better sequel to Terminator 2...in the form of a crossover with Resident Evil in a fan-video series titled Resident Evil: Terminated. Prologue & Chapter 1 are already posted with Chapter 2 coming soon.

[@karanvirkooner1993]

the best form of consolation and comfort I get is being told that Terminator:Dark Fate(Ass Face) and Terminator:Genisys doesn’t exist i can love with that reassurance

[@jaksanape]

The whole comparison of the “come with me if you want to live” line highlights for me the main problem between the two movies. In T2 it was the terminator copying what Reese said in the first movie which actually gets Sarah to lower her guard and briefly trust him. In Dark fate it’s kinda a parody/callback to the original 2. In short, T2 it’s actually meaningful to the characters and plot, while only a reference for the audience in Dark Fate.

[@tomh9553]

"Runs like a scary Tom Cruise"

[@TheBatbike]

So tom cruise?

[@eltornado7777]

Tom Cruise as a Terminator could be so terrifying 😂

[@ragekid2423]

Tom H as soon as he said that ideas this comment 😂

[@Spiral-Mark]

Terminator Tom Cruise doesn't run from danger, he is the danger

[@anubusx]

Make Tom Cruise a Terminator.

[@jovalleau]

I think an interesting take, if/when they decide to have another go at it, is to bring back the action/horror film feel of the first movie. Not everything has to be over-the-top action sequences.

[@wolfling01]

This is first time I've seen sponsor mentioned in a way that was so funny I just couldn't skip it :)

[@ghornisbae1653]

So basically they doubled down on changing preexistent characters’ genders and ethnicities (by basically copying the film) instead of creating new original characters.... no wonder it flopped.

[@DaScorpionSting]

Ghorn Is bae Basically it got terminated at the box office.

[@girthquake1413]

13:28 that's actually a big part in the comics and in a T2 deleted scene; the 800s had their learning computers set to a mode where they could never learn human emotion and thus, feel empathy. Some of the Terminator comics had Skynet losing because the oldest Terminators kept defecting to save humanity and were taking their accumulated knowledge with them.

[@BogeyTheBear]

Further explored in The Sarah Connor Chronicles, with 'scrubbing metal' becoming so problematic for SkyNet that it began incorporating phosphorus in the Terminators' chips and sealing the housing in argon-- all to prevent anyone from reprogramming them. Thus the mantra of "Aim for the chip". Even if your headshot doesn't destroy the CPU outright, you might be able to breach the chamber and cause the chip to chemically self-destruct.

[@jh6025]

Wonderfully put-I agree with everything.