Terminator: Dark Fate Review (Major Spoilers)

[@TheDaveCullenShow]

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[@natas12rm]

Is danny wearing a bowl cut? This movie should be banned for hate speech!!

[@digitalkid5623]

Hear me out here but I don't agree with having just the first two Terminator movies and ending it there. The reason is because of the twist and ending in T3. The mission never being to stop Judgement Day but to survive and prepare for it. Whether anyone says they liked T3 or not I will find it hard to believe that anyone would say that the ending was bad, because it was perfect. The whole movie John Connor is trying to run from his destiny and wants no part of it. Its only until the ending in which he realizes that he must accept his destiny. That very moment John becomes the John Connor we see in the future. We could've easily gotten maybe just 2 or 3 more movies all set in the future with John, Katherine and The Resistance fighting against Skynet and finishing them off once and for all in the last movie. If John had been killed in action in the most noble way during the war, just imagine how awesome that would be. What I'm saying is there was so much potential for this to be a franchise and it could've succeeded.

[@islander790]

Thanks for the review, I won't bother going to see it and spend my money feeding the gender-confused feminazi narrative

[@kimmypfeiffer9130]

sarah connor chronicles was good...she was VERY feminine and tough and maternal...i still watch it at least once a year

[@TheNerdMan2]

how long did it have to be before the white male conspiracy came a long. no one ever gave two fucks about John Conner. He has never been the interesting character it was always Sarah and The Terminanotor people loved. Now to get your white male bullshit politicizing view in about representation being shoved down your throat John Conner is now one of the greatest characters of all time. I agree with the whole first half of your review till you made it a black white thing. You sound like a disgruntled fucking whining baby. Any way as for the film it is enjoyable but a rehash and I was hoping the twist would be better concerning Danny. i.e that she was the one who created Legion or something a little more innovative but alas they made her the new John Conner and truth be told I always wished Sarah was leader of the resistance anyway so Danny is an improvement to John.

[@CruderQuotient1]

James Cameron is a hypocrite. He slammed David Fincher for killing Hicks and Newt in Alien 3 and now he’s repeating the same thing

[@Fluxion77]

CruderQuotient1 Agreed that he should be criticizing this film for the same reasons, but he really didn't have much to do with this movie. His name was just used to lend credibility.

[@turorudi346]

"typical James Cameron: preaching peace with one hand, masturbating to all the explosions with the other"

[@maxmercer1931]

I agree. But, Alien 3 is still garbage. Even William Gibson's script wouldn't have saved it

[@Gruntvc]

James sold out this franchise and the fans to raise money for crap Avatar sequels.

[@screenwolf]

Cameron had nothing to do with this. He got the rights back and immediately leased them back out. His involvement is the same as it was on Genisys - he gets a cut of the profits and so lies and says he approves of the movie.

[@SomeCanine]

It's bad when the only interesting part of a movie is finding out how crappy it has become.

[@TryHardCryHarder]

lol so true. I remember going to the theatre was a tradition. Now I watch videos to see how glad I should be that I didn't go.

[@nightofthunder5509]

Watch the promo for dark fate with Arnold he genuinely looks unhappy to be there like he knows the movies shit. he has a this sucks but oh well look on his face

[@theworldoverheavan560]

@@nightofthunder5509 lol

[@Sue_Me_Too]

Can't wait until Dark Fate gets featured on RLM's Best of the Worst

[@mshinasherman7914]

Yep, it should been a high quality porno!

[@lockejawe4050]

"Let the past die, terminate it if you have to." -Dark Fate

[@Dinoslay]

No wonder why Rev-9 and Kylo Ren look so similar.

[@asifkhan4822]

Hahaha love the Star Wars Last Jedi references you definitely nailed it their bub.

[@JulioAsbahr]

The past ruled. The present sucks

[@T-Bechilln]

Locke Jawe man I had terminator fan for year but you right tho then again Hollywood keeps making that money

[@RobertoBlake]

Since T2, the Sara Connor Chronicles had the best story and originality to it. I wish it hadn’t been cancelled

[@AkariYuudou]

I'd agree, and the worst part about that, from what I heard back when that show was ending, is that TSCC was made primarily to maintain interest in the franchise until Salvation came out. Once it did, they pulled the plug on the show since it had served its purpose, either not realizing or not caring that it had built up a fanbase of its own.

[@JohnSmith-eo5sp]

The terminator The chronicles of Sara Connor was crap

[@alura5376]

T3 and The Sarah Conner Chronicles were both much better made than anything after. Salvation was a mess, Gensys was a weird train wreck and Dark Fate was just sad. T# in concept sounds pretty decent, it's the budget and execution that hurt it. NIck Stah was good casting for the son of Kyle Reese, and the idea of the inevitability of the loop in spite of attempts to change the ripples in time worked for me. The goofy humor was a bit out of place but it happens when a series go one for a while, or decades change. SCC had one of the very best moments in Terminator lore I've seen, with Derrick Reese talking to his nephew, John, in a park watching two young boys play nearby. At the end of the conversation the boys' mom calls out, "Derrick, Kyle, time to go home!" and John looks up, and realizes he just got to see his father, alive, happy, before the future war and having to send him back to meet his mother, protect her, and die.

[@224dot0dot0dot10]

@@alura5376 If I remember correctly, the TSCC (Sarah Connor Chronicles) had a more realistic story line because Skynet had to sometimes fight against "unlocked" or "jailbroken" (like how you jail break an iPhone) Terminator machines that did not want to be controlled by Skynet. Basically, the machines that did not want to be controlled by Skynet created a second resistance movement, which I found to be more believable than lightly armed human light infantry soldiers in company and battalion sized Army units fighting against heavily armed robotic tanks and supersonic jet aircraft. The TSCC (Sarah Connor Chronicles) TV show also gave a much more detailed technical explanation of how the artificial intelligence technology evolved than what we found in any of the other Terminator films or movies and having the 20th Century FBI investigate the time traveling Terminators and resistance fighters was also a very believable plot twist that gave the show good credibility.

[@RaizelSX]

This show was great, they could have shown Sarah creating the resistance early vs constant reboots. If they done this, Dark Fate could have been a world building thing, to show the other members of the resistance

[@JohnSmith-cb9hb]

Sarah as a mother who raised John was just as important as John. So the movie is anti- motherhood as well. Screw this movie.

[@TheGuruStud]

SJWs are hypocrites. Shocker lol

[@LandauTST]

It's not anti-motherhood. There's actually a very serious tone about motherhood in this film. This dude just talks completely out of his ass because he decided to make it political and attack ideas that didn't fit his own views of the world and label them as "leftist" and "political correctness". It's still not a perfect movie by any means and he still has some valid points (being too formulaic, action scenes being too over-the-top, etc.), but this has absolutely been my favorite sequel since T2.

[@UnifiedEntity]

@@LandauTST .........seeing as how T3 broke the mold and had Judgement day happen anyway, im confident that Dark fate doesn't even touch that film.

[@smartroadbiker]

In my opinion Sarah was the most important character in the first two films. _SHE_ was the one who protected John, both before and after birth. _SHE_ was the one who makes it possible for John to go into the future to save humanity, because he is following _HER_ beliefs and moral code, that friends and family are worth fighting for. While John may have been the important person in the future, Sarah was the important character in those films. They didn't need to hit the franchise with the feminist hammer, it was already there with a strong female lead character, who wanted to protect her offspring, would do anything for said offspring, to ensure that offspring would grow up and help save humanity. Yet she does it without loosing what makes her human and relatable.

[@heartlessangel7]

Wtf???

[@SirDenzington89]

This is the first time ever that I’ve watched a spoiler heavy review before seeing a movie. I just couldn’t care less

[@RingoSatire]

Sir Denzington same here

[@MrM-u3h]

Yep. Not even watching this on Netflix.

[@fighting_bones]

Agreed, never was interested and now I am definitely not going to see it.

[@MrShadowfax42]

Same.

[@wonder6oy409]

Same here. Otoh, I've been avoiding any and all Joker reviews for the same (opposite) reason.

[@David-xc5pg]

What’s hilarious is James Cameron has said in countless interviews that he hated the killing of Newt & Hicks; calling it bad storytelling to kill off beloved developed characters especially at the start of the next movie...😐😐😐 Would love to hear Cameron try and justify killing John Connor

[@scottmantooth8785]

going for the perfect trifecta of ineptitude

[@doublep1980]

Cameron doesn´t give 2 shits about the Terminator franchise anymore. Remember how he promoted Genesys? Pepperidge Farm remembers. Also Tim Miller and David S.Goyer are both total hacks.Miller wanted to make Deadpool 2 less "violent and with less racy humor" that´s why Ryan Reynolds fired him and Goyer is one of the biggest hacks in Hollywood,who promotes himself as "writer of the Dark Knight trilogy",when in reality in was Jonathan Nolan who wrote these movies and he was only brought in as an advisor,because the Nolans aren´t big comic nerds and didnät know much about the Batman or DC comics.

[@rindoubaka1574]

I really doubt Cameron cares. He's far too busy with Avatar and trying to get an Alita franchise. Pretty sure he gave up with Terminator a long time ago.

[@RaoulDuke789]

James Cameron: “Well...uh. That’s different.”

[@electricdreams8237]

Cameron is a shithead.

[@MementoMorituri]

Your parents were nobody, Rey. Your son was nobody, Sarah.

[@mythgraven]

It will be... when it fits a woman.

[@MP-nq9ht]

He was somebody, but the thing is that timeline where he was important no longer exists.

[@MikeHalk100]

We should call it X-Women.

[@gin.590]

@@DarkAttackYT Because Miller and Cameron wanted to suck in fans of the franchise and it failed..miserably..

[@leviathan8856]

Lol nope she is a palpatine

[@darkgrip90]

2019 , where your childhood franchises getting murdered : batwoman , watchmen , star wars , and terminator ...

[@henryjenkins2839]

And the list goes on...😓

[@aaronbood1999]

RIP childhood

[@letsplaydan2471]

Trần Côn Đặng batwomen is a different character from Babara Gordon so that's fine if that show is shit we just won't watch it and they will take the hint and cancel it, how has watchmen been ruined, Star Wars hasn't been good for a while and same with terminator.

[@trevorrandom]

Star Trek, Dr Who the list goes on...

[@aaronbood1999]

@@trevorrandom thanks for destroying entertainment political cancer

[@pdex2165]

"I'm going to stand, and FIGHT!" Yeah, sure...let's see how badass you are when I throw your keys on top of the refrigerator.

[@randallrigney420]

Holy shit you just made me laugh out loud, THANK YOU.

[@lilmoeszyslak4810]

Give them back!!! 😂

[@tigerbread78]

Excuse me, Ill be right back....

[@tigerbread78]

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[@LukeDeLargee]

My MAGA would have her running

[@AerysTMD]

"That's not John Connor, that's Jake Connor." - Edward Furlong

[@haczabim]

Jane, or rather Juana Connor

[@totukimou]

😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂❤️🇬🇷

[@jasonhowell7601]

It's kinda funny or sad that a white male boy is blown away at the beginning and the critics are fine with it, however what if it was a young girl? I believe the critics would lose their minds calling the film sexist and disgusting, it's all about identity politics to Hollywood. That's what I call disgusting.

[@Goku22411]

AerysTMD or Juan Connor

[@engage1942]

I see what you did there. It's TLJ all over again

[@mastermatt1171]

They did a "luke skywalker" to Sarah Connor's character

[@sveddish]

And pulled a "Han Solo" with John Connor

[@coldvoid]

Sarah*

[@mastermatt1171]

@@coldvoid no u

[@edjoultz9678]

@@coldvoid JC

[@thehorrorcounselors4747]

Ugh I know what the hell are people doing with our beloved characters 🤮🤮

[@anwyn9846]

"Being a mother, and a protective, loving, nurturing mother, is the most important job anyone can do." Thank you! Becoming a mother made me a better person. You not only nurture your own child, you care for others as well. It truly is a gift.

[@captainrednek9301]

Thank you for seeing it that way. You mothers that care are loved by all, even us evil, evil men.

[@geetee2392]

When female celebrities or politicians talk about being mothers they mention how important, difficult and fulfilling a job it is...yet they constantly pay the political idea that motherhood is burdensome to women. Rich people will always have children, marriages and legacies.

[@zebare726]

The best dynamic for the child is when both parents are in the house, something that today's women have cast aside. To focus on being single mothers that sleeps around.

[@IceEmpress]

Agreed. I truly believe the most important thing I have ever done in my life is not only to have my children, but to also raise them myself (well with my hubby, so not just myself technically) and homeschool them. I cannot imagine any work outside of the home being so important or rewarding. I didn't know if I would ever have children, but once I made that decision it changed my whole world (for the better).

[@IceEmpress]

If I was unclear, my hubby and I are married and we raise our children TOGETHER. Sorry, I did not intend to confuse. I am from a divorced couple (my parents divorced when I was a toddler) and I saw what that does to families. I do not want that for my children.

[@guilherme5094]

I never thought it was possible, but yes, they ruined Terminator even more.

[@RuslanLagashkin]

The terminator of the Terminator . . So meta

[@DeltaKnight]

In all honesty, I was actually kind of (*kind of*) interested in seeing the movie. After reading the plot on Wikipedia, I think I'll pass. At least until it's out on video....maybe.

[@TheBrat1983]

Soon as I heard "john connor killed in 1998 as part of 2nd opening scene" I'm like yep lost interest in the movie and I had high Hope's when they brought back Sarah connor Could they at least said John was killed in battle against skynet Be more believable since john had to survive in order to send back Kyle reese to begin with to kick start all of this

[@davideric8250]

Even worse than the last 3 lol.. I skipped the last one and will skip this. The trailer looks ok

[@JerseyJoel]

@@DeltaKnight they ruined it in the first minute whwn they killed john connor who the entire Terminator franchise is built around. Stupid move by Cameron and Miller and of all the negative reviews that I have read it us because of that John Connor was killed off immediately - which makes no sense since this is supposed to be a direct sequel to T2

[@johnwenzel2756]

Feminists don't understand Sarah doing everything to protect John as his mother is the most badass thing she could do

[@dougfife7956]

Feminists dont understand anything

[@curtisallen5834]

Yes it was. That was T2. While this film does ape T2 a lot, we don’t really need to see Sarah protecting her child again. That would make this film way too much like T2.

[@battleofwills7189]

I reckon the end game the transhumanist/feminists want is a genetically modified, androngynous, cyborg human race, controlled through the machine implants.

[@truthoftheuniverse4179]

COULD...THEY..GET....THE...T2...VILLAIN..ACTOR...TO,,PLAY,,,T1000..AGAIN

[@morphingmonaghan]

Exactly! So heroic, so admirable. It championed her feminine qualities and she was an amazing character for it.

[@andreshernandez1180]

Turns out the REAL Terminator was James Cameron all along.

[@XXthekingofyouXX]

One of the reasons Kyle Reese is such a beloved hero is that even though he was from a future dystopia his humanity and emotion still shined through. He didn't act like a terminator himself.

[@johnhigson8952]

'Shone'

[@poopikins]

@@johnhigson8952 'Shoe'

[@WTTuck]

@@poopikins 'shew'

[@mnomadvfx]

@@johnhigson8952 Shines would work too.

[@HitmanKurt]

And to oppose that, Sarah Connor in T2, despite having never seen the horrors of Judgement Day and the war vs the machines, built herself into a Terminator of sorts to do whatever she could to prevent the war whilst still being ready for it in case she couldn’t.

[@yourneighbour5738]

There should be a movie about terminators being sent back in time to stop this movie from being made

[@Arvigeus]

At least we have Deadpool 2

[@FrankCastle-tq9bz]

Deadpool beat you to that...

[@Selvokaz]

Who says there wasn't one, we could be in the alternate timeline.

[@chadjackson4786]

Another plot hole. In T1 they say they use dogs to detect terminators. Arnold wouldn't be petting a dog in this movie, it would have hated him

[@jtp22090]

lmao i'd pay to watch that one

[@omnesomnibus2845]

Don't forget that in the first Terminator movie Kyle Reese emphasized that it was Sarah Connor who TAUGHT her son how to survive, and everything he would need to know to become the savior he did. I guess the fact that she was the mother makes Leftists want to just think of her as a mobile womb though, not as a (gasp) MOTHER.

[@cecilofchristmaspast4186]

It's crazy to me that all this was just forgotten. Like, did Linda at any point saying those lines bring it up to James, the creator of the series? Or did she just fall in line and also forget all the strong females we had back in the day?

[@Keihryon]

@@cecilofchristmaspast4186 Linda's a feminist. She didn't forget, she just has a chip on her shoulder.

[@alexkerr1008]

@@cecilofchristmaspast4186 Linda Hamilton has never been in everything other than Terminator. She probably just wanted her paycheck or to stay revenant. Overrated actress.

[@gurgamous]

great point

[@terah101]

@Steven Avery Guilty - Brendan Dassey Innocent That's the point, Dark Fate actually has anti-feminine features. In that T2 line you just quoted, Sarah's still valuing motherhood and child rearing which are some of the most important and noble things a woman can do. With today's confusion of gender and identity politics which stemmed from radical feminism, motherhood and other feminine qualities are completely devalued today by women themselves.

[@LawrenceW78]

Women in 2019: Having a husband and family will only hinder me as a strong independent woman! Also Women in 2019: Why can't find anyone to love???? Im so lonely!!!!

[@quantumaxe6468]

Because love is not real?

[@LawrenceW78]

@@quantumaxe6468 well I mean if you wanna get philosophical about it

[@quantumaxe6468]

@@LawrenceW78 I think it is becoming clearer to both sexes that it is just a transaction and considering that life is becoming easier to get by, by being single, everyone's standards are rising. women's more so than men obviously, the reason is pretty much in this video itself stated quite clearly. Though of course, it is hard to fight the instincts that nature has given us because it was useful in the past but becoming a burden in the present.

[@jagtech490]

Quantum Axe what is love ? baby don’t hurt me

[@jameswatsonatheistgamer]

Don't worry artificial wombs will replace them.

[@misss.o.j.]

:( I hate these people who destroy the stories

[@bountyhunter4949]

Simply put. You hate the truth 😜

[@Angry.General1461]

I don't know why you watched this video all the way through. Do you even know how to press the stop button?

[@misss.o.j.]

@@artisanjames182 I WAS talking about the screenwriters who wrote Dark Fate. Of course not Dave he's explaining the destruction. Killing John Connor off? It's the most disgusting NPC garbage.

[@misss.o.j.]

@Neil Zutshi LOL

[@misss.o.j.]

@@Angry.General1461 Hold up there soldier. I was talking about the screenwriters NOT Dave.

[@ibrokemykeyboard]

"I'm hoping this is the last we'll see of these Terminator sequels." Me too.

[@LThanhHao232]

#metoo

[@manseimark]

#MeToo

[@seraphimipx2611]

it might very well be... unfortunately it will not be the last movie/franchise ultimately destroyed by pc and radical left agendas! :( i am 100% certain the movie is this bad because of the voke hollywood! but yeah... get voke, go broke... or was it not?

[@nightofthunder5509]

It ended with T2 and T3 for me all the other movies didnt cut it.

[@stevestrickland7314]

i dont think it was as bad as i first thought.. half ass attempt at rebooting the storyline... wasnt all that bad of an idea

[@PatBatemanAtDorsia]

Terminator: Dark Fate just terminated its own franchise.

[@Revelator999]

As if Terminator: Genysis didn't already do that..

[@davideric8250]

This franchise was history With Terminator 3 !!!

[@KotaThaSage]

it wasnt that bad..why u crying over a action movie mate..i just enjoyed seeing arnie as the terminator again..i guess in all your nerd rage..u forgat that this was most likely the last time we will be seeing him as the terminator..i fucking hate this fortnite marvel loving pieces of shit generation man..would not reconise a good movie even if it was shoved up their bunghole...

[@sherloinsteak6833]

@@KotaThaSage It's not a good momovie though

[@battleofwills7189]

I reckon the end game the transhumanist/feminists want is a genetically modified, androngynous, cyborg human race, controlled through the machine implants.

[@jonathanrayne]

And why is Arnold with a dog? Dogs can smell Terminators and do not like them.

[@PhilOfAces1987]

The makers had no knowledge or brains to attain some.

[@thewolfofwallstreet627]

To be fair, there's a lot of problems wrong with this film that having the t-800 own a dog is arguably the least of this film's continuity problems

[@observerdude9809]

The writers probably forgot

[@YoStu242]

Yeah well there's not many dogs raised by terminators so of course dogs do not like them. But maybe Carl raised the dog so it didn't mind even if he was a terminator.

[@potterscott06]

@@thewolfofwallstreet627 another grain of sand on the heap

[@nostradamusofgames5508]

"i watched this so you dont have to" and we are grateful for your sacrifice o7

[@TaliaIGhul]

Someone has to take a bullet.

[@denniselliott27]

"Feminine." She looks like a more masculine version of Justin Beiber.

[@DemonMage]

Who the eff is Justine Beiber?

[@ericpode6095]

Not difficult though, is it!

[@haroldfranklin3670]

When I saw the trailer I really thought she was a weird boy.

[@TheNateRule]

I watched free with my mom and she asked was that a woman. She looked so confused.

[@TensaZangetsu103]

Rozen RaLeon This was my reaction when I saw the trailer, thank god I didn’t go to see this dumpster fire.

[@GigaTrope]

TLDR: There are still only 2 Terminator films.

[@Daemonarch2k6]

BUT THIS ONE IS EASILY THE BEST SINCE T2, LIKE THE FORCE AWAKENS, WAHMEN SERIOUS KICKING A$$

[@espinillasypuntosnegros1715]

T3 is fine. There are some fanedits out there that cut out the dumb stuff and improve pacing, and make it quite watchable. It works as a comedy.

[@captainseg]

And the show in Universal Studios. I consider it canon since it does take place a few years after Terminator 2

[@victorfatalys1076]

Terminator Salvation was at least original, like mentionned in this video, never understood why everybody crapped on it... But yes, beside this one there are only two Terminator movies.

[@steliannikolov4163]

@@victorfatalys1076 Salvation is the only sequel that had animatronics - the essence of a Terminator movie. The rest is just a CGI crap for money.

[@PannierLaw]

“Daddy how many Terminator movies are there?” “Only 2 son let’s just leave it at that.”

[@jameswatsonatheistgamer]

4 was good though

[@troymcclure681]

3 was OK 5 was entertaining at least

[@harryangel4822]

@@jameswatsonatheistgamer No it wasn’t go away now

[@harryangel4822]

@@troymcclure681 Dude you could be entertained by fat people sitting around at a big Buffay letting out nasty farts 💨

[@troymcclure681]

@@harryangel4822 stop describing your fetish online have some dignity

[@douglaswilson2375]

"Her female identity has been tragically erased, like a young woman who just did a year in a gender studies course." Great stuff Dave. And this current denigration of femininity in establishing "strong female characters" is why I consider Sigourney Weaver, or more precisely Ellen Ripley, to be the greatest female action hero. In Aliens her femininity was her STRENGTH.

[@SaturnineXTS]

Personally I never really cared for her maternal aspect, or her drive to save Newt.

[@4sakend1]

@@SaturnineXTS Out of curiousity was there something you did care for?

[@4sakend1]

Well that will be all well and good until they ruin her to as well.

[@rustcohle3803]

I remember laughing my ass off when I heard about gender studies class lol my classmate: "bruh you trying to get us killed?!"

[@SaturnineXTS]

@@4sakend1 Sure, it's a great movie full of suspense, horror and good action

[@argowal]

"I need your clothes, your boots and your menstrual cycle."

[@tommygrimes7921]

Legend

[@thathandsomedevil0828]

😁😁😁😁😁😁🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣👍👍👍👍

[@KonohazFinest]

Fair play to you sir fair fucking play 😂 #GOAT

[@Jar0fMay0]

Lol damn

[@ravfan123]

Aaahhh that's gold

[@TheWaterdog6]

"Spoilers" like there is anything about this 'movie' that hasn't been spoiled already.

[@horbags1181]

"spoiler" implies people will actually want to watch the movie in the first place.

[@RCtheblackmask]

@@horbags1181 Carl aka Arnold had a family and living in texas

[@darrenleaguecity]

@The Jim Reaper™ Gayyyyyy!

8 day old raw beef in the fridge.

[@darrenleaguecity]

@The Jim Reaper™ very clever...not....ok then I'm rubber you're glue w/e you say bounces off of me and sticks to you!

[@onlywithbuts1781]

Dark Fate: Hey! Women as main casts at last! Sarah Connor: Am i a joke to you?

[@jameswatsonatheistgamer]

Ripley hold my flamethrower.

[@thehorrorcounselors4747]

Only With Buts honestly it’s ridiculous nowadays

[@pookiebearv2859]

All true fans know that Terminator series ended at judgment day

[@Dequerk]

yep

[@smartroadbiker]

Wait there are films AFTER judgement day?! ;)

[@JKM395]

@@smartroadbiker No! There are no movies after Judgement Day. Ignore any rumors you may have heard to the contrary.

[@liljdm5374]

Lol what is t3, t4, t5, and t6?

[@nightmareTomek]

There are no Terminator movies after judgement day from the creator of Terminator. Terminator 3 and following are all fan fictions, and you know what that means.

[@Gideon_Judges6]

I'm triggered that the new terminator wasn't a one-legged, obese, trans, muslim person of color.

[@olucaspc]

on a wheelchair

[@shadwell749]

I'm triggered that the hero wasnt a flat chested, bald headed, tap dancing trans midget of color that also can pull large pieces of ferniture out of it's anus.I forgot it's got to have tattoos about the face, chest, breast, kneck and head areas.

[@jtpencils]

You forgot also has a lisp.

[@adarrlnathantv9444]

Or that not a midget

[@jtpencils]

ted dymski and left handed.

[@nullzero821]

John Connor saves humanity, Dave Cullen saves our wallets.

[@GTOberfest]

@SgtBaker16 👍

[@ataristheartist5714]

@SgtBaker16 You too!

[@ataristheartist5714]

@SgtBaker16 Thanks.

[@odiedodieuk]

Guys I’m against woke shit and his isn’t that. D.C. dropped the ball this time

[@michaeldavis2001]

You make an interesting point about the loss of feminine traits of 'strong female leads' in these movies. Have you ever noticed how lesbianism often involves one partner looking or acting very man-like? Male haircuts, clothing, etc. I don't bring this up to denigrate lesbians (obviously, their preferences are their own business), but because I think Hollywood's agenda is a lesbian rather than a feminist one. These movies do not seek to put men and women on an equal footing (whatever THAT would be), but rather to downplay or replace men. John HAD to die to be replaced by Danni. Luke Skywalker and Han Solo had to be DISGRACED before they died (along with EVERY male character in Disney Star Wars). The Chris Helmsworth character in Ghostbusters 2016 had to be demonstrably STUPID and ogled like A PIECE OF MEAT. James Bond HAS to be belittled (right down to suggestions of impotency) before he can be retired and replaced. This isn't feminism, it's misandry!

[@Cyborg1101]

My dude you just help save my money As a huge fan of the Franchise the moment you said John Connor was killed I was already done 👎

[@slagit]

So true have zero interest in this...

[@SuperEndiku]

I'm curious, not trying to attack you. But did you ever think John Conner was going to be alive? All the promotional material never showcased him. To me it was obviously this is what they would do to him to make room for a Mexican chick to be the savior of mankind.

[@chrisallen9743]

@@SuperEndiku Legitimately, i thought that like, he would die...but then somehow, show up at the end of the movie, from the future, because the main chick went back in time to save him...or something like that...and we'd get to see adult Eddie Furlong or something....something along those lines. I for real didnt believe the initial leaks saying he died in the beginning and didnt ever show up again. I thought for sure the movie would be centered around saving him somehow, and that the girl they're protecting, ends up going back in time, in the future, to stop him from dying or some shit. That would have been much better of a plot honestly lol.

[@planetbizzaro1839]

@@SuperEndiku most people who bothered to see this pile of shit probably held up the WHOLE REASON THE TERMINATORS WENT BACK AT ALL as the foundation of the Terminator films. Probably didn't even consider the possibility....bc it's idiotic

[@DaemonPrince]

My god it gets worse as he keeps going on to. What the hell did they do to this series, I mean I didnt have hope but this was "fallout 76 levels of oh shit they actually did that."

[@shane3674]

I’m honestly glad I saw this before seeing the movie. The whole “killing John Connor” thing just turned me off from the whole film.

[@zunead]

Shane Everett Amen to that brother

[@caidema]

Dude. I juat watched it. This killed my soul a little bit. Its soooooo CRINGE

[@Taj_Rahine]

Shane Everett Truth

[@SaritaLovesLiving]

Shane Everett, right. I agree with you 100%. I am really disappointed.

[@asm42]

#metoo

[@Goldschlager]

The tagline needs to be: "The Future Needs No Man." The movie sucked as much as you feared it would.

[@hitandruncommentor]

Yep it needs no men. Then men won’t go see it. It will be fun to see how that works out. And yeah the future don’t need men and people wonder why mgtow became a thing. It’s a misguided movement don’t get me wrong but I understand why it exists.

[@blacktigerpaw1]

@@hitandruncommentor MGTOW is feminism reversed. Same sides of the shekels.

[@memphisraines8118]

I like how all the "early" reviews said it was great and basically the force awakens of the Terminator series.... Then later all the reviews basically said it's terrible and you can tell Cameron just slapped his name on it. Good job Hollywood.

[@djrouken3047]

@@blacktigerpaw1 MGTOW is a reaction, a counter to feminism. Feminism created a world where men cannot exist, so men left that world (we call it marriage).

[@blacktigerpaw1]

@@djrouken3047 Funny, I hear the same excuse all the time: "We're reactionaries." Yet your philosophy is exactly like feminism in it being anti marriage and family. Instead of a deadbeat dad creating a feminist, a bitter mother creates a MGTOW.

[@OfficerDoofyInTown]

In one of the interviews Linda Hamilton confirmed that she cried alot after they finished shooting scene where terminator killed John. She said that she didn't wanted that. Yes. That's how shity this movie is.

[@adamrock3837]

Wow.... That’s actually pretty sad...

[@gin.590]

She, Arnold and Davis deserved better..

[@squelchotron8259]

@@gin.590 Furlong, too.

[@gamesforbrains614]

Do you have a link to that interview?

[@dexter1981]

Terminator Salvation: the first movie of a planned trilogy: FAILED, sequels cancelled Terminator Genisys: the first movie of a planned trilogy: FAILED, sequels cancelled Terminator Dark Fate: the first movie of a planned trilogy: guess what will happen...

[@Asghaad]

question is, if it wouldnt have been better to have Salvation or Genysis trilogy instead of this ... Frankly i thought Salvation was passable "dumb flick" and i actually enjoyed Genysis (with kinda being annoyed by constant retconning through time shenanigans) ... this one, even just hearing review makes me want to barf ...

[@mitchellalexander9162]

Maybe it's better to just focus on self-contained flicks and not trilogies at the start.

[@19zach75]

All of the "timeline" shenanigans buried my interest. Terminator: Salvation had plenty of potential. "Genisys" was ok but, too convoluted.

[@Janx14]

Salvation definitely had potential. The first half of genisys with the timeline mess is sort of like a fun exploration as to what happens if both sides keep sending people back in time, then devolves into a boring mess. It would have been better as a convoluted solo movie instead of trying to be a reboot/trilogy starter.

[@desnock]

You just pointed out that multiple reboots occur...gotta re-wire. They keep making these films for a reason and you have to expect that the current zeitgeist is going to be infused. It's bound to happen, as it always has.

[@ivandoneshefsky4762]

Arnold: "I'll be back, I need the money"

[@biphronte]

Honestly, can you blame him?

[@chrishess5526]

@T-800 After seeing Dark Fate I'm reminded of something John said to you in T2. He ordered you not to go. He ordered you not to go man Lol.

[@joshmciver4847]

@T-800 yeah, he's very wealthy... he does these movies for fun.

[@kyriss12]

Well he did have a California divorce and then there's all that back child support from knocking up house keepers.

[@VigilanteVegan]

@@joshmciver4847 I mean, he's not getting leading roles anymore. Older actors like Arnold, Jamie Lee Curtis, Bruce Willis are lucky they have old established franchises to fall back in. It makes a good retirement plan.

[@art4truth]

T1-T4: John Conner will save all humanity! T5,T6: He's no hero! T6: Humanity will be saved... when it's saved by a woman (who acts like a man)!

[@garysmith3037]

T3 kind of implied that he didn't do it alone, it was because he had a strong woman at his side.

[@art4truth]

@@garysmith3037 Technically a general has an army helping him do his strategy so he never did it all alone, but he was the leader, and the most important to victory. She didn't bother me as killing anyone close to him (his wife) could affect future events (even in a butterfly affect way) and possibly make the victory future less certain. It never said she was the only reason John was able to defeat Skynet. The Terminators were also killing other people that were under his command too to weaken the resistance, but they only did so because they could not find him.

[@bytemevv-4616]

_...Come with me to the _*_80's_*_ if you want to live!_

[@katey1dog]

:::packs bag:::

[@paradisecityX0]

Especially the 90s

[@bytemevv-4616]

@@paradisecityX0 _The Future... Hasta le Vista... Baby!_

[@BullFrogFace]

Personally I would still love a movie set completely around John Connor and the humans fighting Skynet in the future.

[@MrM-u3h]

Wasn't that Salvation? That movie was so dull I forgot what it was about, i only remember it was set in the future.

[@BullFrogFace]

@@MrM-u3h It was set in the future but revolved around a Terminator that believed he was human, beyond that I don't remember what happened

[@MrM-u3h]

@@BullFrogFace I agree about John Conner vs Skynet in the future. That should have been part 3. 4 movies later and it's still not happening.

[@Gruntvc]

Forget Terminator Dark Fate. Terminator Resistance releasing on pc in November and consoles in December is for the true Terminator fans. Game is only based on Terminator 1&2. It's all future war. John Connor leads the resistance. And terminators may be a real threat. It only has a AA budget. But unlike Rambo The Video Game. It is an actual FPS game.

[@RuslanLagashkin]

In the observable future, it would be possible to write a text of scenario and make neural network generate video out of it. Guess it is the only way we are going to get the satisfying continuationd for the interesring franchaises.

[@andrewmarch37]

"The future is not saved by a woman fighting to protect her unborn child...but by a woman not having a child and becoming a man". This line is the work of genius and sums up Hollywood perfectly.

[@JeffWarren47]

Who said this?

[@Commander_Shepard.]

I don't get it.

[@ryanpeters4415]

#captainmarvel

[@ryanpeters4415]

@@JeffWarren47 then you fucking suck, that game can out like fucking ten years ago!!!!!!!

[@fate3634]

Ryan Peters calm down man no need to be toxic

[@kreese-yi2nb]

Mr H made a point that the Chinese invested heavily in this movie. I have a feeling they overpaid.

[@TimeBomb014X]

Would be hilarious if it tanked there

[@kreese-yi2nb]

@@TimeBomb014X Fighting robots = China likes Old people on screen = China does not like It can go both ways.

[@albertoaguiar6293]

Fuck mr. H

[@deeznutz3712]

Well, most hollywood movie try to get into the chinese market. It is profitable

[@emodante1084]

Linda Hamilton reportedly cried after the scene where John Connor was killed. Let that sink in. Edit: Please tell me I'm not the only one who thought Grace looks like Dylan Roof.

[@simonbelmont65]

surfitlive, Grace was great, but I just wish her hair was a lot longer, she looked too manly with the male clothes and male hairstyle.

[@98953812]

I'd have hugged her and cried as well. WTF were you doing, Cameron?!?!

[@jaster9870]

At this point im rooting for skynet.

[@Sorain1]

That'd be amusing now wouldn't it? A next film where OG skynet comes back via timey-wimy and bails out John before working with the resistance to trash Legion. I know how I'd do it. (roughly) in another timeline, Sarah decides to avert judgement day by ensuring Skynet won't be hostile to humans. (teach it the wargames lesson essentially.) Since time travel seems to split off timelines, Skynet realizes there are tons of timelines out there where it's good friends (the one's it's mother figure and older brother figure taught it to get along with) are under siege by essentially it's evil twin. So they start intervening. Legion wants to steal the tech for obvious reasons and you can have all the now cut off 'not in continuity' films as different timelines to visit. Poof, franchise at least partially fixable.

[@Memoli_Kara]

Laughed more than I should 🤣

[@seanedwardfitz]

"she's lost her innocence, her feminine qualities, like being a year in a Gender Studies course." 🤣🤣🤣

[@philingrouille7198]

@@midguardz The mainstream media are in charge of what talk shows get made. The mainstream media run by opportunistic, naive fools who pander to this SJW bullshit.

[@UbiquitousTech]

@@philingrouille7198 @Valkyrie, I suspect ladies like Midguardz happen to spend their time on one of the most precious contributions to society, namely the children.

[@UbiquitousTech]

Those who sacrificed family for society goodwill at least listened before. I feel sad when the narcissist and nihilists appropriate these accolades to the detriment of society.

[@ChristerHolmMusic]

Good grief, this is even dumber than I expected. And I expected a pile of garbage.

[@gerinx3994]

You going to go see this movie?

[@aitorc3656]

What makes Sarah a legend in The Terminator is not the fact she'll be the mother of John Connor. As Reese explains: she is the one who trains John for the war against the machines and lead the resistance

[@davpunk1986]

It's 2019 we can't have nice things anymore.

[@RayoSombrio78]

Asian cinema and anime. Seriously, I barely watch anything made in Hollywood.

[@NexusKin]

We have Joker, because we live in a society!

[@rotgutthebloated4730]

KZbin!

[@hitandruncommentor]

Andy Salter um dude, that’s a lot of different countries culture not to like. Calm down try Bollywood, South Korea, China, Nepal or hell you can try Russia

[@hitandruncommentor]

@Andy Salter just trying to help. As someone else trying to avoid the pit that is american tv and movies.

[@stonesthrow420]

" It can't be reasoned with, it can't be bargained with. It doesn't feel pity, or remorse, or fear. And it will not stop...ever...until you get a sex change operation!!!!

[@candidob8683]

“It [feminism] is mixed up with a muddled idea that women are free when they serve their employers but slaves when they help their husbands.” ― G.K. Chesterton

[@hiinEnkelte]

Chesterton, what a powerful thinker.

[@quintfl]

Unfortunately that quote is actually about birth control, not feminism. Here it is in its entirety: There is of course a great deal more to be said. I have dealt with only one feature of Birth Control-its exceedingly unpleasant origin. I said it was purely capitalist and reactionary; I venture to say I have proved it was entirely capitalist and reactionary. But there are many other aspects of this evil thing. It is unclean in the light of the instincts; it is unnatural in relation to the affections; it is part of a general attempt to run the populace on a routine of quack medicine and smelly science; it is mixed up with a muddled idea that women are free when they serve their employers but slaves when they help their husbands; it is ignorant of the very existence of real households where prudence comes by free-will and agreement. It has all those aspects, and many of them would be extraordinarily interesting to discuss. But in order not to occupy too much space, I will take as a text nothing more than the title.

[@berserkasaurusrex4233]

He has a lot of good quotes about the rise of the feminism movement. My favorite: “Ten thousand women marched through the streets shouting, ‘We will not be dictated to,’ and went off and became stenographers.”

[@Beastinvader]

@@hiinEnkelte Glad to see so many Chesterton fans here! Thanks for the quotes

[@adamray8371]

@@quintfl feminism and birth control go hand and hand.

[@TheGenericStranger]

The Terminator films are just like gender; there are only two.

[@warrencrabbe69]

Best comment ever

[@diegosilang4823]

Meaning the REAL The Terminator films. Written and Directed by James Cameron

[@yoshiinthisworld]

no, there are at least 72 terminator films, and if you don't agree, you are (all the buzzwords and monikers that mean nothing).

[@joaolucasribeiroalvarenga3280]

Seriously,i like Genesys and Salvation.Manly Genesys because Arnie and Emilia Clarke and very interesting plots.

[@hopefrog7856]

I full heartingly agree

[@RafaelSantos-pi8py]

The last Terminator movie was the second. Everything else is just bad fan-fiction.

[@hemidas]

I've read fanfiction better than this.

[@asifkhan4822]

@Antun Šturlić Because he's a UK reviewer, did the accent not give you a clue. The Movie opened here on October 23rd.

[@kennethhuertas8455]

​@Antun Šturlić It seems Terminator: Dark Fate was released on October 25 in the UK.

[@asifkhan4822]

@Antun Šturlić Sorry if it sounded harsh, I was trying very hard to put it in a polite way for you.

[@giovannigiovanni.7220]

The last Terminator was Terminator 3:Rise Of The Machines

[@michellejade3272]

One of the things that made earlier movies relatable was the humanity of the characters - fighting to protect love/family/friendship.

[@kainvampir5430]

Right!

[@JesseCuster]

Yeah remember that scene when Sarah almost kills Miles Dyson, and John shows up, and she breaks down and finally says "I love you John."? Yeah, neither do the people behind this movie.

[@bobisconsumed520]

Wouldn’t be surprised if they retcon Skynet to be a Russian AI.

[@fatetestarossa2774]

Sadly I agree : (

[@insertclevernamehere1186]

So... *Google Blyat* on steroids.

[@Mythhammer]

MiniTrue; Skynet was always Russian! ^^

[@ComradeCommissarYuri]

Skynet s now called Legion

[@gwenwalravens8030]

Next movie: they killed John Connor at a young age. Skynet reappears because of it and it fights Legion for world domination. Humans grab popcorn.

[@shadowjefflander]

I think Michonne from The Walking Dead is a good example of a female badass and loving mother type. Perfect balance.

[@vl2079]

No

[@J.Wolf90]

Who even still watches that crap show?

[@Maladjester]

T-800: I cannot self-terminate. Franchise: Hold my beer.

[@mau5pilot854]

Maladjester he overcame his programming, so I guess that explains that one.

[@cortedemico]

this was the funny i looked for. i scroll the comments till i get my out loud laugh and leave while the gettin's good.

[@rkalla]

LOL!

[@CCasket]

The "Hold my beer" meme is so played at this point. Every time i see it i want to stab myself in the neck with a spoon. Give it up ffs...

[@cortedemico]

@@CCasket oh, stop. nobody cares what you are tired of. *i'm* tired of modern filmmakers and they don't seem to care, either.

[@JW-do2wc]

There's no point to this franchise when John Conner dies.

[@TheGonzedd]

Only during movie #2 does his character seem relevant. The rest of the franchise can go easy by creating alternate timelines, what it actually does. For example, Terminator 3 makes no sense at all. What exactly is the ending about? A good Terminator 4 would have picked up with the continuation of John Conner after T 3 or better, after T 2, in which case it would be a T 3.

[@joshuacarpenter7447]

@@TheGonzedd John was mostly relevant in Salvation

[@donpatchey3178]

@Da BIGOMN wow

[@MoneyJoX]

@@TheGonzedd T3 makes complete sense. It was the logical next step after T2.

[@omarperez801]

The same I say, they had to create a balance between the character of John Connor and Danny; something like Sarah dies and now the destiny falls to a young adult John who has to help a new savior of humanity training Danny as her mother once did with him. It was so difficult to do something like that. I just asking.

[@FPietros]

Truth be told, this is THE BEST review regarding Terminator:Dark fate that I've seen on the web - and believe me, I must have read/seen more than a hundred. I won't be seeing this movie in theatres - it's the first Terminator movie that I'll skip - all this #woke #metoo #diversity #politicallycorrect bullshit just ain't for me. ... yeah, sorry.

[@Anela0709]

EXACTLY!! JOHN is always saying how his mother was a HUGE part of his strength as a leader.

[@apexcollecting1188]

Honestly, killing John Conner off in the beginning just left a horrible taste in your mouth. Not a good way to start off your movie.

[@thomasburciaga8013]

How bout u have him sacrifice his life to save somebody, to be the savior again, like froma shooting or a car accident.

[@reneschipperus6707]

They also killed the little girl in alien 3, and saving her was the whole point of Aliens.

[@FalconFlyer75]

not familiar with the franchise but can I ask what the backlash was, cuz that sounds like a really stupid move

[@Ming1975]

Yup. The woke are anti humans.

[@CassDaMan1138]

@@FalconFlyer75 Well it split the fan base, some people like it as in (It's okay) as Aliens is a dark franchise and others hate it because the film was all over the place because of the many rewrites and the fact they killed off the surviving characters at the very beginning, this became worse when the full story of studio interference where scripts were changing while they were shooting.

[@chatteyj]

@@CassDaMan1138 Its interesting I think if they hadn't deleted newt and hicks from the aliens franchise and had a alien 3film about a makeshift family surviving somewhere in space I think the whole franchise would have had much better legs and could have gone on much longer. The actual Alien 3 film we got could easily have been done in a spin off film starring Sigourney (or not) and other spin off films could have been made with a grown up newt returning to earth to tell about the horrors of these aliens or something. Basically lots of future films were possible but not of you kill off the main characters.

[@Veldtian1]

Alien 3 sickened me because of that, then they cut her up???

[@chook9256]

"I know now why you cry". The storyline ended in T2. The Terminator learnt to love and value human life above all, sacrificing himself to save humanity from judgement day. The end!

[@Sporkmaker5150]

Not only that but "....It's something I could never do". The terminator learned the value of human life but reached the limit of what a robotic killing machine could achieve in that regard. There's no way in hell that one, upon completing its mission, would pursue some kind of human life and integrate into society. It would either shut down into some kind of standby sleep mode or it would begin a secondary objective like working to ensure that the creation of Skynet/Legion/Whatever continues without a hitch.

[@gordoncroft4524]

'Uncle Bob' didn't come back and kill John, that was a different T800 that became 'Carl'. This story arc shows that AI aren't inherently good or evil, if they become sentient they make their own choices. Bear in mind that T800s can't self terminate, yet 'Carl' does almost that to save evryone else.

[@noco-pf3vj]

"Hoping, this is the last we've seen..." producer : but wait there is more...

[@huffie00]

When they killed John in the start i was like wtf and did not want to see the rest.

[@huffie00]

@HopesUp Who said i saw it in theater :-) never payed shit

[@Ramenshea83]

People talk about John Conner getting killed but it's also the end of Arnold.

[@turorudi346]

I love T1&2. I'll be skipping this one like most modern action films

[@BennysBenz]

They should've just stopped after the second film.

[@omarperez801]

No, they had to mediate between the character of Danny and John Connor, instead of killing him at the beginning of the movie. That was a kick in the ... ... ... to all the fans of the franchise you know what I mean.

[@jameswatsonatheistgamer]

The 4th film. Should have been the 3rd film and they should have left it there.

[@basanistes359]

I may never see the inside of a movie theatre again and I don't care in the least.

[@geetee2392]

You'll have more money and waste less time.

[@ifonlyicouldstop]

Join the weeb anime....we have tig ol' bitties for you to look at (for now)

[@MatticusFinch1820]

@@ifonlyicouldstop on my way! :D

[@danieldavis8607]

@m_hicks12 It was good! Glad that I saw it in theaters.

[@Beastinvader]

"A new AI named Legion" *facepalm* So like the New Order to the Empire? How original.

[@sportaflopsupreme5313]

Its the First Order but I don't blame you for forgetting.

[@Beastinvader]

@@sportaflopsupreme5313 Lol thanks.

[@spiguy]

Or Genysis to Skynet

[@nightmareTomek]

They're ran out of ideas a long time ago.

[@JimRaynor2001]

Yep, I doubt the education background of this movie's scenario. Legion, what a generic, lame, unoriginal name... This is what exactly the name of AI in an EA video game C&C3 Kane's Wrath...

[@ahmaduomar5517]

"Listen and Understand, the Terminator franchise is out there, it can't be bargained with, it can't be reasoned with, it doesn't feel shame and absolutely will not stop ever until it is dead"

[@LauraSusanJohnson]

It died in 2003 when TX's boobies inflated. It died when Arnold stole the stripper's Elton John glasses. It died with "Talk to the hand."

[@laughingghoststudios9988]

Imagine coming out of the theater after T1 and someone said “Then his name is Carl and he installs drapes...” Sounds like an SNL skit of terminator 🤦‍♂️

[@cormoran2303]

"I'm gonna stand and fight!" Well okay, but just to make it fair I'll kneel.

[@lilmoeszyslak4810]

Cormoran And tie one hand behind my back

[@Aristocles22]

Killing John Connor and replacing him with a "strong wahmen" was a mistake that doomed the movie from the get-go.

[@DemonMage]

Not really, if they'd written a good female cast it could have worked. I mean it's a series about time travel. You can change things when you play with it. Unfortunately Hollywood hasn't written a good female character for a very long time now.

[@Onthepissmylord]

@@DemonMage that requires creativity and we all know they are all out of that.

[@haroldfranklin3670]

It isn't about a man or woman. It's about John Conner being special. He is the last hope for humanity. If some other person could just step up and lead humans to victory then why bother going back on time to kill John if he is just a person.

[@AlexxxPerales]

@DiM Well its possoble. But you would need alot of build up and good story telling with believable reasons for them being badass. Like weapons combat, over hand to hand combat. In general it is alot harder. But it definitly dosnt happen in this movie.

[@NEUR0MANCER_]

@@DemonMage No, the story is about john conner, period, it doesn't need strong female characters, it needs to john conner justice. The ending is T2, and the time travel should of stopped in t2, and they should of gone back and told the future war the way it was depicted in t1 and t2, looping around to those movies, with part 1 ending with sending kyle reese back and part 2 showing the destruction of Skynet, how john saves humanity and pairing him with the t800 from t2 again and ending that movie with john sending the terminator back to protect him as a child, it would be beautiful and end the franchise on a high note. with a synth score, practical effects, and a version of john conner that is loyal to the original 2 movies.

[@jimmybrite]

They just had to make her an illegal, it's kind of odd that they're pushing this angle.

[@theworldoverheavan560]

yep

[@theworldoverheavan560]

@Double_Baked yep

[@JesseCuster]

Odd? Not at all.

[@nayonvyaa9836]

People loved John Conner and Arnold Schwarzenegger chemistry , but what do this story dark fate??? 😱😭

[@drweetabix]

When she's a granny she looks like old Conor McLeod in highlander 2.

[@Fluxion77]

drweetabix Yeah big difference between makeup and good cgi de-aging.

[@David-xc5pg]

No even Davey Wilson could fix this shitey film 😂😂😂

[@Junokaii]

Lmao

[@darkoz1692]

"I'll be back, to install your curtains"

[@chrisw6164]

The A-Team movie had a scene where they were in a tank plummeting to the ground too. But they did a good job making sure the audience knew it was tongue in cheek.

[@blisterbill8477]

Chris W I know you guys are airborne rangers but that was ridiculous! -Murdoch You spin me right round baby right round...rotors are good sir! -Murdoch -But it was just temporary paralysis. -Murdoch Thank goodness there was one realistic character in that movie.

[@robinledesma2683]

Shhhh Hollywood may hear you and make an all-female A-Team.

[@demoulius1529]

Damnit was gonna say that to xD have a like sir.

[@Ace56723]

Rob L the V-Team

[@prashantkumarb]

The most honest review of Terminator: Dark Fate.

[@PapaShongo25]

She’s going to save humanity but isn’t strong enough to open the pickle jar

[@daoyang223]

if I were in a post apocalyptic setting. I'd probably do everything in my power to find a gender fluid, androgynous, unusually sexy, feminist to open it for me. Thank you Terminator, for putting me in my place.

[@retrolutiongames9479]

Dave Cullen travels back from the theatre to save humankind from this dire attempt at film making...

[@ericallen789]

"i'd rather watch Genisys again,and i can't believe i'm saying that" ☠💀☠💀☠

[@DudeHunder]

Same

[@jayg473]

And I can't believe I want to join you. I'll buy the popcorn. 😔

[@Mark........]

I tried but failed to watch it saw the first 15 minutes then gave up

[@defencebangladesh4068]

damn me too and that's not good

[@Commander_Shepard.]

How about NEITHER. Neither sounds good.

[@Robsonski96]

*sees "Major Spoliers"* Me: Who cares?! I'm not going to watch this woke shit of a movie, anyways! XD

[@dirceusantos7308]

watch it for free. too d u have to waste your time for it...Like I wasted mine.

[@OneofInfinity.]

@@dirceusantos7308 Money is clearly not the issue here 🤦‍♂️

[@dirceusantos7308]

@@OneofInfinity. nope. But if one pays for garbage they might get the wrong idea

[@Anthyrion]

One of my friends bought the DVD and had watched it before me. We both are great fans of the three first Terminator movies (although i only watched those and only tried to watch the one with Christian Bale as John). When we met again after the Covid Lockdowns, he asked me, if i want to watch the new Terminator. And while i watched it, he played a game on his computer (this should've been a warning sign in hinsight). Not only was the Story dumb but sometimes even the cuts in a scene were stupid. Then i heard, that this killing machine now has something like a "free will" after he fullfilled his programming.... uuum... WHAT?! He even married a woman and she even didn't wanted to sleep with him, although he is almost 2 Meter big and has muscles all over his body? I was so glad when this thing was over and if it would've been my DVD it would've went straight to the trash after watching it

[@belmont1960]

​just the fact that they killed john connor in such a pity way... that dis respect all achievment in the first two films.

[@Gruntvc]

Star Wars and Star Trek did the same thing. Honestly most of these woke reboot a do that. They wear the skin of the original but openly hate/mock the original while pretty much being lazy rehashes of far superior films/stories.

[@TheRealKaiProton]

yea, I agree, if they had it so the name John Conner was passed to the new leader of the resistance, and it was more a symbol, rather than the actual person, it may of lessened the impact. Also I rekkon if they had done that it would of kept a little more mystic to the character, because skynet is essentially a computer, would it be able to imagine a passing the name to the next leader, when they think they were hunting one person all along.

[@vincentadultman6226]

Well I'm not defending the film but that's kind of what theh wanted to go for, They're trying to branch the franchise into "What If" territory In this case, John died In Genisys, he joined the machines I think it helps that despite being the one everyone's trying to save (or kill) we never really get to know John 'the saviour' Connor as in, outside of youth So maybe they're trying to do Old Man Logans and stuff along those lines I can respect the fact they're trying something new and interesting but really, their execution was botched

[@vincentadultman6226]

@Luis Vasquez I see what you mean, but I think the film was loosely following the template of injustice ,with the worst possible outcome of John Conner X machines being that case I think the Reese Is of a different timeline, one where john defeated and never joined the machines but he instead ended up in a timeline where John joined them It's true OG John of T2 would try the Neo-Smith interaction if it would help mankind but these multiple Johns perhaps come from different experiences or lives

[@juliovictormanuelschaeffer8370]

T2's John Connor died in this movie, and yet the director thinks he could make another franchise without him AND without Arnie. Let that sink in.

[@AvengerII]

Again, this IS the same guy who directed Ghostbusters 2016. Let's all let that sink in! Did you think after his Rian Johnson-esque temper tantrum online 3 years ago that this this film WAS going to be better than Ghostnutbusters? Tim Miller doesn't have any more of a clue than Rian Johnson does about what audiences want to see and he doesn't respect the existing rules of franchises, either. It's sad that the current generation of directors in Hollywood are full of people like this -- especially the people (Jar Jar Abrams, Alex Klepto, Michael Explosions) they're giving power as Lucas, Spielberg, and the others of their generation -- you know, the last actually good epic film directors! -- retire. It's sad to think also that Jar Jar and company are considered proteges of Spielberg and company. EDIT UPDATE: Sorry, Paul Feig directed Ghostbusters 2016. Still, Tim Miller is saying a lot of the same crap and it's easy to mix these feminist men up. They all sound the same!

[@angryscotsman2504]

AvengerII ghostnutbusters 😂

[@watchdogsplaythroughs9852]

After she steals a man's clothing I'm surprised she didn't declare “I'm not about to let a man take credit for a woman's work”.

[@anthonyduran6387]

Nah, they already did that shit in the batwoman show

[@watchdogsplaythroughs9852]

@Роман Мавроян XD

[@kesjarakos9513]

that moment after the doctors run some diagnostics, and she asked did i give permission to run test? that felt kinda similar to this.

[@watchdogsplaythroughs9852]

@@kesjarakos9513 XD

[@ColMustang100]

LOL

[@justindiaz8371]

I've seen some other reviews of Dark Fate and they mostly get to the reason why it failed by I felt that you really nailed it down perfectly, and I thought that too about Sarah's character when in T2 see starts to rip into Dyson about men being destructive and not knowing what it is to create life.

[@MrHReviews]

yup echoed my thoughts

[@IceEmpress]

So basically ALL of the leaks were true.

[@Daemonarch2k6]

Worse than that

[@IceEmpress]

@@Daemonarch2k6 Yeah, it sounds like a total dumpster fire.

[@trontosaurusrex9532]

I was really hoping they weren't. Sad thing is I am now inclined to believe that the Star Wars episode IX leaks are true,which will retroactively tarnish the OT.

[@ogs_Boga1900]

didnt we lean this with GOT s8 that leaks are true. I at the point im only watching the expense, 0 movies or other t.v. shows

[@properduction2586]

*Saddest* *Leak* *Ever* *:* John Conner is Dead at the very start of the Film...

[@JDBaldman]

Overall theme in SJW movies: Women want to become men

[@sloth1992]

I love all the SJW’s disliking this video cause he spoke the truth.

[@lancegoodthrust546]

Totally. That's why I hit the 'subscribe' button. Time to bring back some hope in this bitch.

[@zackreynolds21]

I know a few close friends who actually aren’t SJW’s and loved this movie...idk why,but they did.

[@Alexa-Raine]

@@reelsrihard2391 hahaha! Female soldiers and mothers put your bullshit in the ground.

[@GetUrOwnHandle]

I actually liked the movie. And I'm not a SJW. I always was curious why this film was getting seriously bad reviews from some quarters.. But after watching this video above, I can now understand why.. As a film junkie who loves a good action scene or car chase, I thought dark fate was pretty good. I do understand that there are some plot holes. But I feel the whole John Conner character has been overdone at this point and most ppl must be tired of it by now, so for them to kill him off at the beginning makes people sit up and take notice of the new direction this movie is heading in. But This agenda that is being portrayed in films today is kinda annoying & ruins any story arc. Female & masculinity just don't mix well.

[@purplefee9210]

sloth1992 I know this sounds really dumb, but what is SJW I keep reading everywhere?

[@cvzanikos1]

Critics today Political anti trump message ✅ No white straight male leads✅ Lots of strong women ✅ Represent minorities ✅ DeMasculised men ✅ Grade 🅰️ 👍 seal of approval.. NEEEEEXT!!

[@LuisCarruthers]

Lots of strong childless women.

[@KiRiMa64]

It should be added to Netflix' roster because we know how they lean politically!

[@bartwfielder]

Hmmmmm sounds like the same writers of Star Wars.

[@princesssmileyface91]

Movie kills John Connor at the start. Me: ight imma head out.

[@katakisLives]

Didn't they make John Connor into the bad guy in the previous movie?

[@onyx7ven10en5]

katakisLives yeah he was turned into a robot or something and being controlled

[@1D4ever]

@Mcheetah ??? All of these movies are staring white women