Terrible Alpha Male Advice

[@librarianontheloose]

"Your fashion needs to stand out...but also be the most minimal thing in the room" is the most hilarious counter productive advice. Just dress like a cat burgler is what I'm hearing.

[@ArturGlass.C]

It's exactly what he's saying. Look suspicious but not extravagant.

[@IchNachtLiebe]

Potato sack with gold embroidery. It captures both extremes

[@riccardodellanno1611]

What i'm hearing is: no clothes

[@HYPERxSONICxFANx2012]

better idea: go goth or emo

[@linkfreeman1998]

Reminds me much of The Verge's PC Build Guide on how to install the CPU cooler: Keep the cooler away from the processor, but close enough to make physical contact.

[@daftoptimist]

Men wearing rings: As a woman I literally don’t care, wear what you want. Men yelling like this guy: As a woman please shut up

[@theflowerhead]

Amen.

[@brylcreemy]

I wear clothes I like because they’ll attract people who appreciate my style. I’m not interested in dating someone who thinks I need to change my look.

[@lethfuil]

You want people around you that you like and they like you back? For personality reasons, not style? That's such a beta thing, dude. (/j just in case.)

[@MavonEast]

Exactly. I wear clothes that won't attract anyone because I'm a loner. The last thing I need is someone's tips on how to reverse the condition.

[@nicholasr156]

I wear clothes so I can stay warm and not get arrested for indecent exposure

[@janedoe4471]

A woman trying to change your style is just as wrong as a man trying to change a woman’s style, you be you!

[@swr.nezumi]

A real alpha wouldn’t wear clothes at all

[@reb3578]

Statement socks are a highlight of my office. It's wholesome to show off your socks. Sounds like this dude isn't fun, which I like in men 🤷‍♀️

[@datrtzhush3734]

Fr

[@catalin2766]

Statement socks is the most random thing I got into but god damn do I love them

[@norafromash5087]

WHY WAS THAT ONE GUY CONSTANTLY YELLING?!?!

[@Norah_The_Silly]

Because that’s how MEN talk/j

[@lep99]

I felt physically exhausted watching that part

[@EORheartcartoons]

His name is joinen /j

[@AnnaNersesyanlight]

He remi ded me of "JUST DO IT!"

[@lethfuil]

Insecurity.

[@gamergirl24]

NGL the whole eye contact thing is super uncomfortable. I always feel kinda creeped out whenever the person I'm talking to is trying to make eye contact the whole time.

[@VeeFerns]

I personally take being called a moth as a compliment, because moths are fvcking cool

[@everia_games]

💡🔦

[@IchNachtLiebe]

That's why they go to the hot bulb. They are just too cool and chill. They need to warm up.

[@mrbork7218]

They are literally butterflies but nocturnal. Not much cooler than vampire butterflies.

[@playingmusiconmars]

Cargo Shorts are a superior alternative to a fanny pack for carrying around your stuff in the summer

[@EORheartcartoons]

I live in cargo pants and whenever I'm not wearing them I reach for the cargo pockets when they're not there

[@mothmaniel]

im sure joinen agrees, seeing as he also likes cargo shorts

[@cumsteak]

69th like! Nice

[@zeratir7873]

How could you possibly ignore clothing with the "Cargo" modifier, I need more inventory space for all the stuff I pick up.

[@lethfuil]

I don't always wear cargo shorts, it depends. If I don't though, but STILL want to carry stuff, I have a fricking handbag. Not even one for men. Yeah, THAT'S an alpha move! 😂

[@tinyandtired]

Why are these dudes trying to keep men's fashion so boring? Also why do they always assume they know what women find attractive? We're not some homogeneous group.

[@GhostGlitch.]

also alpha dude was insane. if you wanna be attractive to women, maybe stop fucking shouting damn. also maybe have some color instead of a boring ass wrinkled grey jacket.

[@saadiqahsurname9859]

Wild that Joinen would make an entire video because a thread told him he couldn't wear his cargo shorts

[@currybread5298]

Don't listen to "alphas" or some girls that have nonsensical "icks". Being clean, taking care of yourself and being respectful and kind goes a long way. You are free to have hobbies and interests and a distinct style.

[@GhostGlitch.]

honestly i've had dudes with insane style look good to me. cuz like, half of style is confidence honestly

[@theflowerhead]

Yes. My boyfriend was kind and well liked. It seemed safe. That was years ago. He's not into style, even if I notice style it's whatever. I love him more than life.

[@EORheartcartoons]

Weird fashion is amazing, everyone should wear whatever makes them happy and comfortable

[@shadowkissed2370]

The guy in the video yelling @ 6:27 wasn't even dressed well or in a way that would catch the eye of any woman I know including myself.

[@maem7462]

Honestly. The outfit he’s wearing is kinda just whatever. I wouldn’t think much about his outfit if I randomly saw him out in public

[@AnnaNersesyanlight]

That guy: here are tips to not be dressed averagely, because average is not sexy The tips: average is sexy

[@lethfuil]

He just wears clothes. Which I appreciate, I think it's the appropriate thing to do on a KZbin video, but...yeah. It's neither an eyesore, nor an eyecatch, it's his yelling and his nonsense that keeps people away.

[@Liggliluff]

The biggest insult in these videos is how they consider women a monolith and how you can just win women and sех like that. Women are individuals.

[@-N0V4-]

17:50 oooohh. Who's that mysterious alpha male that just replaced Joinen. I love his Lolita sunglasses

[@nesstora]

>turtlenecks is it gay to keep your neck in warmth???

[@BraydenBeckham-t2c]

Insecurity is gay.

[@everia_games]

Yes, who you keeping your neck warm for?!?!?

[@nemurihimeeex]

⁠@@everia_gamesfor your boyfriend who wraps his hands around your neck for whatever reason (I don’t judge) and he wants to be warm and cozy while doing it!? That’s what I fricking thought. 🤨

[@caseyjc5]

I thought turtleneck shirts were to hide hickies.

[@linkfreeman1998]

All ik is that I would get impressions of Steve Jobs if I wear turtlenecks. Not gay. The frick are these people.

[@shinydiamonds0458]

Rings on men can attract a very large group of women tbh some of us really like hands and rings made those hands like 10x better

[@ArturGlass.C]

It's like this guy is trying to teach how to cater to other alpha male rather than to women. Which isn't inherently wrong, let them be together and leave everyone else alone....just surprising.

[@lethfuil]

But...but... but than you just attract a female that has the same taste as you and possibly even a fitting personality! 😱 Imagine being a MAN attracting girls for personality and bonds instead of showing off and being more ALPACA, eh...ALPHA!!1!

[@B55OA]

Yeeees

[@hjtrek]

I feel like this was an article written for women in Cosmo magazine 20 years ago and he just gender flipped and yelled about it...

[@zapsi2206]

These guys who are like "don't stand out but also be an individual" are always the most unhinged looking dudes screaming at a camera. Saying something louder doesnt make it right, my guy. You can tell they've spent their lives "winning" arguments by shouting the other person down until no one wants to bother with them anymore.

[@bumblehoney7206]

Contradictions like that help increase the anxiety in insecure viewers, increasing their desperation to consume this bs - just feeds the cycle from that point.

[@lethfuil]

Yep, those types tend to think they've "won" an argument, once the other person doesn't want to bother arguing anymore. It's pathetic.

[@lethfuil]

​@@bumblehoney7206 Never thought about that, but it's very possible. Makes it even worse.

[@caseyjc5]

I get that sounds like a contradiction but I think that just means don’t make yourself look weird and too unique but also don’t follow trends. Like don’t have an outdated, unflattering hairstyle but also don’t have a trendy broccoli head one…which is also usually unflattering on anyone. It’s just like the “emo” hairstyle in the early to mid 2000’s - the first guys to have them looked cool but not anymore when almost every guy did in the local music scene.

[@theflowerhead]

Well said.

[@hatinacat7344]

@11:25 dude stood out so much from his friend group they faded into the background

[@cara_cakes]

What I find fascinating about these videos is that they're basically a copy-paste of the types of content I was bombarded with as a teenage girl, just changed up to target stereotypically masculine behaviors. Its' a bummer that this sort of inadequacy-based "improvement" content is spreading even further.

[@melissalonla]

Statement socks are a staple for anyone with personality, and many people with style! What was that guy on?? Also, women will be disappointed with MANY things about men, but almost never their rings.

[@catherine_404]

As a woman, the only universal advice about their image to men (and women and others actually) is, BE DECENTLY CLEAN, don't wear dirty stinky clothes. I can elaborate, like, change socks daily, but your pants you can wear several times etc., etc., but these are details. And cologne won't mask the stench. And I don't recommend wearing torn clothes, mend or throw away stuff you wear in public. On other specifics (turtleneck or not) - tastes differ. Oh, and, as a woman and in general, I don't want to be in the same room with these dudes aggressively promoting this or that about clothes and behaviour. Being chill, kind, and funny, being compassionate and attentive, helpful and respectful, being honest and true will bring you friends, and maybe closer relations much better than any sort of watch, tie, or handshake. It's nice to look nice, but, beyond the first impression, looks won't get you far. Looks are not unimportant, grooming is great, but you have the whole you behind that facade, just like there is a whole house behind its... facade.

[@nicholas475]

The long pause used for comedic affect was 100% used correctly 10/10 keep it up 😂

[@jadedbelle4788]

Can someone please tell these shouty men that microphones exist. It will make their life so much easier.

[@Adraeth]

If you need to yell perpetually through your whole video to retain your audience's attention, either you only attract old people, or you're being extremely obvious about overcompensating for your lack of substance. That's the conclusion I've taken out of that first guy's video. I've heard less decibels at heavy metal concerts. Like, calm the ech down, dude...

[@shinydiamonds0458]

It’s okay joinen, you can admit you wear cargo shorts, we’ll still watch ❤️

[@jostewart4893]

Thank you joinen I am stuck in bed with Covid (woohoo it’s 2020 again) and have decided to binge watch all your videos. It’s also great to be an Aussie watching a great Aussie KZbinr keep it up

[@cargo_vroom9729]

6:15 Gah! I HATE this style. The sudden slap of KZbin Hyper Voice made me jump "Whatupgentlemenifyourwafakdsfhsadlkghadsfjghkjasdgjask!!!!!!!!!!!!"

[@cargo_vroom9729]

It feels like being sober and a drunk person is Close Talking and yelling at the same time.

[@MoodlyDoodly]

Joinen, you are wearing cargo shorts. Don't lie to us. Put this comment on a walldoor as well. Add a chicken nugget

[@Joinen]

Walldoor 🥲 You a real OG

[@davidlisteresq]

My girlfriend brought me a bunch of rings to wear and now Im very confused.

[@thedanespeaks]

She wants you to dress as sonic

[@lep99]

I just wanted to say I've been loving the new video style! It's great that you've been keeping all of that genuine Joinen vibe we love while being able to elevate your content even more! I'm a long time follower, and your videos brought me a lot of comfort over the years 💜

[@Justanotherpot]

He could've avoided so much criticism by just titling it "40 pieces men who aren't into fashion should avoid" with the starter tweet explaining that it's things that are easy to wear badly if you're just trying to casually look good without putting in too much effort. Maybe also include tips for doing that right. If he was telling the truth about his intent.

[@BraydenBeckham-t2c]

Astrology for men strikes again

[@GivenFailure]

This is more like Cosmo for men than astrology

[@stale_salt]

Joinen trying and failing to deny the cargo shorts allegations once again... the cycle continues

[@sprigatoni]

I just wear cinnamoroll and other sanrio merch every day. That's how men should dress. I definitely stand out.

[@pysz6748]

“No flip flops, unless you’re near a pool or beach.” Yeah no shit, that’s what flip flops are for.

[@thethirdtime9168]

Insane how dude at 7:55 is just maximizing his manliness by yelling to the point where his arteries pop. Least masculine thing I've seen in a while, and horrible message to send to the world. If masculine energy is being a protector, why exhibit traits of an aggressor?

[@EternalGamingNet]

These alpha male types are exhausting. So much yappin to say absolutely nothing.

[@bumblehoney7206]

Their tips about man spreading and wearing shades to be mysterious both sound like...off putting body language to make people uncomfortable by "claiming" more territory than they should. It's also etiquette to remove sunglasses when you talk to people because it's rude to hide your eyes or block eye contact with them it's antisocial.

[@Thedreadedflutist]

I have the best advice to counter this: Unless you are contributing financially to my life, you don’t have a say in what I wear, read, eat or sleep on. Free advice for the wannabe “Alpha Males”

[@kairi99roxas]

No its a trick, if you point the sunglasses at someone, like your staring, then you dont actually gave to stare

[@sammykbop6217]

My video stopped itself after he said pause, and I thought you were doing the editing bit for way too long 😅

[@Erineyeagerofc]

It's ok joinen you don't have to hide the fact that you wear cargo shorts 🫶

[@mattymiep2662]

Thank you Joinen this video was amazing! And gotta be honest... Those glasses really did it for you. Please wear them in EVERY video now. Also I often pause in the middle of a conversion cause I just forgot what I was about to say and people fucking hate it.

[@thoughtfulwatcher]

I guess that one guy's target audience is Mothman looking to draw his spicy Mothwoman to the flame that is him. The last guy wants to always present the left side, but also keep eye contact. Guess it rime fir humans to develop eyestalks. Verrrry attractive.

[@fredo_credo5689]

I didn't know I needed this fashion drama between these twitter drama queens but I'm living for it

[@Liggliluff]

(5:50) That point is overused and terrible. It's the "all my facts are correct, and if something is wrong then that's a joke".

[@UnknownTimeLord]

"All you need to do is to dress well and look good, then you'll look good! It's bullet-proof!" 😂 Also, why are these Alpha-bros always yelling??

[@courthebrave]

I agree with you about apple watches. I don’t wear mine while attending church or any other very important time. Like going to my therapy appointments. It feels so rude of me to have it on 😂 BUT like you said people can wear whatever they want, I just don’t do it because it feels wrong for me 😊

[@Dragonbleps]

The "alpha males" who are always yelling because they equate loudness and aggression with confidence... Oof. Someone get him a lapel mic so he doesn't have to wear his voice out screaming. But I love how the advice really just boils down to: Wear nice clothes that fit you well (including shoes) and smell nice, but we have to wrap it up in aggressive motivational speech yelling so we know we're gonna WIN! THAT! DATE!!!

[@speks36]

When did rings become unattractive for men? I remember when rings used to make a person look like a big shot.

[@jademeyer3053]

Canadians wear sandals year round too unless its winter and even then we may still wear them,my husband will wear sandals until its too cold to do so.

[@Mertice06]

Im getting abs just by sitting here and not wearing cargo shorts.

[@brokenjuniper8387]

The other day my friend asked me what style do I like best for a guy and I was like...cozy Joinen sweater style (cause you always wear the best knit sweaters) lol.

[@hollyrobeson4931]

I’m glad joinen is posting again

[@caucaxican86]

why are all these men who do the "advice" thing YELLING all the damn time???

[@LikeSoTotallyRandom]

Don't dress just like your friend Dress just like me

[@daysandwords]

I LOL'ed at "Uh, I'm your brother..." 🤣

[@bethlovesthings]

Why is my Australian heart happy to hear you swear 😂😂. 🇦🇺❤️

[@amsie02]

that guy who's constantly shouting is so exhausting lol

[@Guro-Blue-kun]

Saving up for a good fitting with a pro tailor is actually great advice! Especially if you buy your clothes second hand ^^ Even if you're poor, you should try to find a good affordable tailor in your area, get your favourite jacket fitted, and one good outfit! You won't be taken aback even in the events of a sudden invitation, and you'll look your best! And if your fitted outfit is, for example, a simple suit, you can always accessorize differently so it looks new every time ^-^// Return to do fitting if you lose or gain a lot of weight too! (Seriously...I'm poor, and at least half my clothes are custom sized. Finding a trustful affordable tailor is easy in nearly all countries, and you won't believe the difference it makes! Or even better...learn to sew yourself if you can! Super useful!)💙 Other than that....I disagree with everything, just be yourself lol

[@jessiec668]

I agree with your statement but I think you should use the word sewist or tailor. Although "sewer" is technically correct, the word looks like the place sewage goes to...

[@Guro-Blue-kun]

@@jessiec668 I'm sorry, English isn't my first language and I didn't notice, thank you.

[@Tooks]

Thanks Mr Alpha Male but I don't need your advice on practicing eye contact, I'm autistic I've been doing that for most of my life

[@melinaalba63]

The guy in the KZbin video just sounds exactly like the advice i got as a 14 year old teenage girl from a book on "how to be beautiful". If you have curves, wear this to hide them, if you have no curves, wear this to make it seem like you have, if you want to seem confident, dont look at the floor, look straight ahead when walking,... I truly wish we could have just left that advice in the past instead of now also plagueing men with it

[@daduska2]

Comedy gold, Joinen. Love the eye contact, you comanded that empty room like a boss!

[@YouWouldntStealABag]

Love ur vids, got me through lockdown boredom, glad to see this pop up in recommend again, favourite fellow Aussie KZbinr I reckon

[@kkcliffy2952]

He sounds like an infomercial with how he yells everything

[@thymenext3298]

I 100% agree about the smart watch rant. If I’m wearing a super nice dress my Apple Watch would look out of place.

[@meenah6859]

You're wearing cargo shorts, Joinen?

[@daftoptimist]

I believe in the cargo shorts.

[@henr5189]

Sir, why are you yelling at me?!

[@Mfeeyore]

😂😂

[@kolonarulez5222]

How many times in life will you ever be faced with a "flamboyant pocket square?" There's 1 in every list that sends me lol

[@jimjam719]

I'm really enjoying your videos lately!! You disappeared from my recommendations for a while but since you started popping back up again it seems like you really upped the effort put into videos! Broader subjects and more of your actual insight and personality, not to mention good script and editing, keep it up!

[@Sly-Moose]

As someone who is not a guy, seeing a guy in alt af platform boots would actually make my head turn, in a positive way. Not seeing a guy in some basic af boring shoes. 😂 Some classy dress shoes are also nice but might not catch my immediate attention.

[@HYPERxSONICxFANx2012]

classy dress shoes are so boring to me. i like alt not basic. i'm a guy

[@ItsKierancraft]

saw someone who looked exactly like you working on my local library

[@Replicanna-rl6zg]

I like chubby guys. In my case the shoe thing is true, but thongs/ slippers are fine too. Most of the s**t is just bs. And why is he shouting (not you Joinen, the other whoever guy) Ohh and the sunglasses look there, he might be on to something

[@THAT1ZELDAFAN]

Did that last guy literally say that Joey's "Smell The Fart" acting was a way to make you look more confident?

[@Befevered]

*SHOES!!!!!!!* Jesus that was a jump scare. LOL 😂

[@Liggliluff]

(19:20) I assume that this is from USA where that happens. But it's ridiculous outside USA in the developed world. No one casually has a gun on them.

[@matthewgriisser6079]

Can't believe they invented men's fashion Gary V

[@monotgree5334]

100% best advice on the internet 2024.

[@WilliamLovell-oh1rb]

My masculine role model is Maurice the orangutan from planet of the apes.

[@BoxOKittens]

5:29 lol he's basically saying "the average man knows nothing about fashion, therefore they should listen to my restrictive opinions instead of actually learning and broadening their views"

[@mylatahiri2572]

My back is to the wall because I have PTSD Mr Alpha Male #2

[@jacefromthere286]

I guarentee this guy pressures girls to go back to his place at the end of a date and doesn't take no for an answer.

[@Imezita]

19:30 what?? Is that a American thing? 👁️👄👁️ I have NEVER heard about a situation like that in my whole life

[@HYPERxSONICxFANx2012]

i buy new rock boots. they're made in spain. platforms are the best. i hate minimal shoes, they're so boring. i need to find some studded and spiked belts

[@bellindajane8452]

Ok but if you put two cute guys in front of me, one wearing boring shi and the other wearing a turtleneck, rings and fun socks I’m gonna wanna talk to the guy who looks like he has a personality. Especially the rings 😩

[@kaylinbischoff487]

My theory with the cargo shorts thing is Americans who watched crocodile Dundee your both Australian so people think of him when they think of the accent😅

[@auntielu8531]

I like alpha m. He makes videos for lost young boys who want to be masculine and confident but don’t know how. I don’t watch his content anymore outside of reaction videos, but I see him as a funny uncle who gives alright advice that’s meant to be more uplifting than practical. He’s wholesome in a weird way. His „alpha masculinity” seems really non-toxic, especially compared to a lot of other content out there.

[@Insensitive12]

I’ll wear my cargo shorts and turtlenecks thank you 😆

[@StarBoundAngel]

That outfit at 8:45 is 🤤 Then again I love pink on guys. And the full green suite is so stylish. Edit: just realized the video says “Guide to dress attractive for men” and I suppose he’s not wrong, because it’s definitely not attracting women.

[@bumblehoney7206]

@8:55 dude sounds like Billy Mayes, may he rest in peace

[@-N0V4-]

Im laughing at the lost because where I'm from a lot of these are seen as signs of an attractive man

[@sunakoiscool]

18:31 You obviously have to wear the super cool shades and take out one lens🙄😭 These ¨tips¨ are so silly and funny to watch

[@rydrakeesperanza5370]

14:40 women intuitively translate body language and thus know when something's off, or so I've read. They scored on average much better on tests where they had to decode it (can't remember the details but there's this book "definitive book on body language" or however it was called that talked about it). Though, doing body language on purpose is a different story and it's shocking how certain gestures can change other's perception of you. Sunglasses are not good advice (because you may seem untrustworthy because we can't see your eyes) and man-spreading is frowned upon. The handshake explanation and open-palm explanation seems to be correct tho.

[@beth24421]

❇ 🎶 we come from a land down under. 🎶 ❇

[@KingOfMadCows]

Obviously the real reason why you shouldn't wear rings is because you might be mistaken for a warlock and someone will try to trap you in a circle of salt.

[@acetabulumshots]

Yes, it was a cheeky bonus to keep your sunnies low on your nose.

[@SkynetScum]

First of all, the yelling is driving me crazy. I've seen this guy on other channels and he's insufferable. Second, I'm really sensitive to cologne and perfume. They all smell the same to me and are crazy overpowering no matter how much is used. My boyfriend doesn't wear any, and I love being able to smell HIM, not a fragrance plastered onto him. The dude makes a lot of blanket statements about "what women want". Has he ever met an actual woman? More than one? I'm beginning to think not.

[@Imnotoook]

fr (i havent even watched the video yet)