Tesla Cybertruck: a crash test death trap | Auto Expert John Cadogan

[@jazzocat]

Such a versatile vehicle. Not only is it a cyber coffin, but doubles as a mobile crematorium.

[@andrewgraeme8429]

and pissoir!

[@memyself7419]

I see what you did there.

[@michaelrexrode3759]

Lol good one!

[@RalphEllis]

Mason (aka Thunderf00t) is paid to denigrate TesIa. Because the government (and motor manufacturers) don’t like Musk. Musk was not even invited to the Whitehouse EV summit. Look at Thunder’s output - half of it is against Musk. Thunder says: Musk cannot design rockets - sure dude. Musk cannot run a software company - sure dude. Musk cannot design cars - sure dude. Musk cannot sell electric cars - sure dude. As to the crash test, the distance the head travels is irrelevant, what matters is the deceleration. The fact that the head in the Ford truck goes further before decelerating on the airbag is totally irrelevant - it is still the same weight decelerated over the same thickness of airbag. R

[@FinflazodeTurroai]

🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@RedcoatT]

I'm not an Aussie, but Australia should immediately class this man as a national treasure.

[@dalek3086]

give him a knighthood.....

[@digitalversatilediscjockey3465]

Ayyy there's my fellow non Aussie viewers!

[@Bigboofsticles]

Its not the fall that kills you, its the sudden stop

[@garreysellars5525]

As I have said before Deceleration Syndrome Medical term from a diesel fitter😅

[@robg521]

Yep. Don’t be afraid of heights … be afraid of hitting the ground.

[@thaqifazumi4001]

Speed has never killed anyone. Suddenly becoming stationary, that's what gets you - Jeremy Clarkson 😆😂

[@navcenter77]

What I saw in the crash test footage was a good example of how a basal skull fracture is caused similar to the way dale earnhardt senior died

[@satt131313]

You got it. Length of stop means slower deceleration. Kind of like your head hitting a pillow or a brick. That glob of jelly called a brain is going to bounce back and forth after stopping quickly hitting the brick.

[@bordersw1239]

I watched a live feed of a range test on a Cybertruck last week. When I pointed out that the guy testing turned the lights off at night to increase the range and pulled onto major junctions with very little power were dangerous moves I was descended on by what I can only describe as cult members.

[@ewanrollo5562]

Oh yeah. I have dared to make some criticisms and pointed out some possible problems with EV's before. The cult members set me straight. Ev's are perfect. They never go on fire. They are not filled with toxic chemicals. They are cheap to repair. One of them told me batteries can be fully reconditioned for £500 easily anywhere. No such thing as range anxiety. They are cheap and easy to recharge anywhere, in seconds, without having to wait. I am the worst person who has ever lived on this planet. Remember. Don't ask questions. There is no downside.

[@mikethespike7579]

Most EV owners will brag about how great the range of their new cars is. What they don't tell you is that they have to be careful not to drive too fast, not to use the vehicle's maximum acceleration, only drive with parking lights on and avoid driving in low temperatures.

[@ewanrollo5562]

How dare you. How dare you. I should be at school. Not here lying about electric cars.@@mikethespike7579

[@karlgunterwunsch1950]

@@ewanrollo5562 The ICE cars are much more easily set on fire - don't forget that even in normal operating conditions they are hotter than required to boil you and you carry around a large quantity of toxic, carcinogenic, flammable liquid... They aren't perfect but better than the ICE malarkey...

[@gdutfulkbhh7537]

Cult members who feel the need to defend the indefensible can only resort to hostility. Don’t worry about it: it means you’ve won.

[@kippen64]

I am in awe of how you kept a straight face during your apology.

[@jgarbo3541]

You're very easily awed. Now watch the pretty laser....

[@shanesmith6815]

The way that the neck with head attached goes backwards could be problematic too.

[@Mrbfgray]

He's an expert clown. No substance but entertaining to dim children.

[@robg521]

Instead of being awed…18minutes reduced to a few seconds = …. The Tesla is more ridged so the air bag doesn’t move when your head hits it. The Ford is designed to crumple and crush so your head slows down more gradually when it hits the air bag. The ridged stop of the head in the Tesla is more likely to kill you, where as the slower stop of the head in the Ford is more survivable.

[@coweatsman]

Just wait for his April 1 video.

[@deanchur]

Look at the bend in the neck of the Cybertruck dummy as well compared to the F150; definitely some stress-related injuries (and possibly a broken neck/upper spine) there.

[@crymsonknight8436]

Yeah, this was my concern too! That test dummy looks like it’ll be a paraplegic if it ever got out of the crash! I’m pretty sure human necks don’t bend that far back naturally…

[@jorgerobles628]

Are you an Orthopedist to give that kind of opinion? I don't think so. It is in the same BS Line of thinking of Mr. Cadogan.........

[@crymsonknight8436]

Tee hee hee... Do I need to be an atmospheric scientist to know that the wavelengths of light through the sky make it appear blue?@@jorgerobles628 I suppose you're going to say that I can't comment on the earth being round because I haven't been to space! Do I need to be a surgeon to know that if you cut open the body enough times through veins and arteries, it will bleed out? Aaaand just to be clear - I said "... it looks like..." and "I'm pretty sure..." I never said categorically or factually. You sound hypersensitive to anything that brings your god, Elon Musk, into any question. Oooo! maybe I can't say that because I'm not a mental health professional... Oh wait. I am!

[@thedoggy480]

@@jorgerobles628ur truck sucks sorry dude

[@markcraigie3225]

I'm also quite impressed with the neck angle achieved in the Cyber truck. It's like a built in chiropractic session.

[@canadiankrispybacon]

Maybe 🤔 As opposed to you face embedded into the steering column which is a structural hard point…cause in that vid the driver head is pretty much eating it.

[@AndrewMarsh-si6zs]

If brain contact with the skull due to excessive decelleration does not cause an issue (ie, the brian is pushed throug the blood cushion) , the neck rotation will.

[@TheDeadfast]

Yeah, I find that pretty worrying too. The head comes to a dead stop (no pun intended), but the rest of the body keeps going. The phrase "internal decapitation" comes to mind.

[@vidfan1701]

That was only at 35 mph. If that happened at highway speed, the neck would probably break.

[@camillosteuss]

@@vidfan1701 This neck probably broke, it`s just that the doll is much more durable than a human, as it relies not on physical demonstration of damage like a ballistics dummy, but it has loads of sensors that measure the torsion, tension, compression and other forms of stress exerted onto the specific part of the dummy... They don`t break like we do, because they are madly expensive, or better said, the sensors within are, which is why the doll just needs to be very durable but flexible like a human body, as to allow the sensors to do their job in a safe human-like cage... That doll would likely not break the neck in a 100mph crash, but that doesn`t mean that a human neck wouldn`t break at this instance... The head and neck acrobatics that that doll has done in the elontruck is astounding, and you can see the head becoming a pivoting point in a way, it stops in place and the neck gets bent downwards at the shoulders by the inertia of the torso, which is interesting, as that 3pt belt should have stopped the torso in place by that point... Was that a belt sys. failure? Not sure, but i`ve seen merc col. footage from 2010-2015 and hell if i ever saw a doll slide that much forward... I like older mercs, so thats why i looked at that specific brand, but yeah, i doubt that any other mfg. has much different results belt-wise if both vehicles are in the same safety level...

[@mikethespike7579]

In my apprenticeship installing ducting at high places, decades ago now, I was always told not to worry, if a fall the ground will stop me. I dare say the Cybertruck's crash specs work on the same principle.

[@BD-bditw]

Surely as an apprentice you were told to secure yourself to a Sky Hook which you were asked to fetch from the storeman. "Please can I have a Sky Hook and a Long Weight".

[@mikethespike7579]

@@BD-bditw LOL! We once handed a new apprentice a 2 inch drill that over time had been ground down to about 3 inches, told him to pull it longer again and to only come back when it was 6 inches long. It got even funnier when the foreman asked him what the hell he's doing. "Pulling the drill longer" he answered. "Ah, good, carry on" the foreman said and went on his way.

[@McT740052]

My absolute favourite channel on KZbin, hilarity with engineering goodness!!!

[@Mrbfgray]

"Engineering" hahaha, can you ever define the term? He's an expert clown for dim children.

[@canadiankrispybacon]

Yeah..was kinda waiting for the ‘engineering goodness’ part to come through and into play..but that would need, require actual real data, which he admittedly doesn’t have…so he made the decision to take the ramblings of a guy who has EDS who he himself came to conclusions based on missing data, (mind you this guy is a scientist) so in other words…he guessing. I like John’s vid on the HWY to Hell….but this one, meh, I dunno about of his resource of ‘data’ Thunderass…is the best of choices for reliable information…He was destroyed in his vid on the Towing capacity of the Tesla Semi…because being a scientist, he has absolutely NO CLUE on driving them, load distribution, suspension, handling characteristics, and how to estimate weight…using comparisons that were literally 🍎 & 🍊 in the truck world. Thunderclap if you look at his channel, clearly has EDS, in fact his unhealthy obsessive behaviours potentially, has got him in some hot water, maybe his taxpayer funded salary could be in jeopardy 🤔 Maybe we can look at that resent real-world, head-on collision where the Cyber-Truck driver walked away without a scratch & minor damage to the truck, with the the opposing car (who crossed the line) which was basically destroyed in comparison & imho written off 😉 Which vehicle would you rather be in 🤔 When these KZbinrs act like mainstream media, rush to be first, they end up with multi-million dollar law suits against them…not saying that’s going to happen here…but do you think Elon doesn’t have the money to destroy a couple lil’ KZbin channels for promoting false information that is detrimental to its brand? Mainstream Media, they can afford those huge payouts…how long do you think it would take Elon, or a company, the stakeholders of a company like Tesla to obliterate a couple of wanker KZbinrs 🤔 Imho, not having all the facts, which is clearly noted by John in this and Thunderclaps video…that quite the branch he’s standing on…unfortunately for him, he’s not standing on the part that attached to the trunk, he at the tip of the limb 😃 Personally, I think John and Thunder-ass are both barking up the wrong tree on this one….but hey, I’m no scientist 😂

[@juanmedinar20]

Engineering lol. This guy is an idiot.

[@film79]

@@canadiankrispybacon So why hasn't Elon sued Thunderfoot yet? That guy has been making claims against Elon for years. It would be insanely easy to sue thunderfoot if he said something Elon could prove wrong. Seems very strange he is allowing people to slander and say what you claim are false information about Tesla.

[@BD-bditw]

Yes, and so much better now that Sir John Cadogan has stopped filming stuff in that dreadful Crap Vertical Mode.

[@pyotrberia9741]

I am thinking of putting a new vehicle on the market. Who do I need to bribe to ensure that details of my vehicle's crash test are not released to the public?

[@JoeBManco]

This comparison reminds me of NASCAR driver Dale Earnhardt. Years prior to his fatal crash he sprayed a car across the infield but walked away because the car was shedding parts and speed, but his fatal crash was an instant stop against the wall.

[@markhanson8366]

Dale had been warned by his Docs that his vertebrae had been compromised by his many previous car/wall battles. He also elected against using the HANS ( Head and Neck Restraint system) already in use then.Many think the HANS would have saved him but he was adament abut the old school 'open face' helmet. I'm in Straya currently where surprisingly, based on actual head injuries, bicycle helmets are required for most but have often thought that those in motorized vehicles could benefit from a HANS type system and harness restraint instead of the lap/shoulder belt. Have concluded that it would hurt the biz models of the ER's, chiropractors, Ortho surgeons and physical therapists, not to mention the personal injury law firms.

[@JoeBManco]

@@markhanson8366 I 100% agree with you. We're all guilty of not using enough personal protective equipment. A HANS-style restraint made for cars would be an upgrade over the standard 3-point seatbelt. It is sad that NASCAR had to lose one of their greatest drivers in order to take the safety of HANS seriously enough to mandate its use.

[@andrewphilips2457]

Ok but the HANS system Stops the head from moving as it would in a regular car crash at lower speeds. So these cars stopping at immense speeds are not causing fatal brain movement and Their heads basically don't move it all. How is that possible? Seems to suggest the difference in head movement between the truck and the Tesla certainly aren't that great a danger at lower speeds?

[@justicebroker2271]

I love how it was insinuated that the cyberflunk is built for the apocalypse. Well good luck trying to charge it when the lights go out.

[@jonbowes5999]

@justicebroker2271 ever heard of solar panels? Try stuffing those in your dino-juice hole LoL

[@FuckGoogle502]

It's an excellent emergency firestarter.

[@jonbowes5999]

@@FuckGoogle502 indeed the cigarette lighter could be used many many many many thousands of times on a single charge LoL

[@rohansprenger6902]

Solar panels on your roof?

[@justicebroker2271]

@@rohansprenger6902 good luck with that.

[@wonton8983]

Isaac newton has a lot to answer for. If he hadn't invented these rules back in 1660 whatnot, we wouldn't be having these problems today.

[@JoeOvercoat]

But his cookies rock! We will always have that.

[@geraldkoth654]

Newton did not invent anything. He just roughly characterized the observations of movement he saw.

[@Born_Stellar]

@@geraldkoth654 thanks for pointing out the extremely obvious joke, sherlock.

[@rohansprenger6902]

@@Born_Stellar In a video and whole comment section devoted to pointing out the obvious joke of continuing with fossil fuels, you choose to highlight that comment?.... Wait.... Surely you don't think this video and 99% of the comments here are a frank and honest assessment????

[@Born_Stellar]

@@rohansprenger6902 if you mean 'why didn't I assume you were all retarded' I honestly have no idea. that should have been my first thought.

[@willtricks9432]

Had a head on collision with a 40 Ton DAF Articulated truck down a country lane here in the UK, I was in my 1994 Landrover Defender 110 pulling a trailer. He was on my side of the road I braked but hit the truck at about 40Mph at a dead stop. The 10 year old seat belt did it's job plus my death grip on the wheel gave me a serious AC/DC moment. six months of head ache and neck ache and a permanent left shoulder twinge. Pick what you drive with care. Cheers

[@trythis2821]

"Pick what you drive with care". Or be more cautious not to get yourself into that situation in the first place, lol

[@Theweouthereforrealclub-]

Gen 1 mx5 because I’m here for a good time not a long time

[@willtricks9432]

@@trythis2821 the situation of needing a work truck is unavoidable if you work. Fiat panda would not have towed a trailer.

[@lesflynn4455]

Ouch! I feel it mate. I was a passenger in a car hitting a tree at 90kph in 1994 in Canberra, Australia. No airbag in the 1989 Holden Camira. The seat belt was effective, thank god. I still broke the windscreen with my face and dented the dashboard with the same. My face was a mess, but I'm still alive.

[@willtricks9432]

@@lesflynn4455 My sister was in a head on in a country lane years ago, she hit the screen and cut her face bad, took a few years to get over it, She's good now.

[@86cleo86]

I think your "apology" makes members of Electric Scientology even more angry. Great video as always, honest description peppered with good sense of humor.

[@mikapeltokorpi7671]

Did you mean Elonic Muskology?

[@billmyke746]

The devout followers of Electric Jesus will be all up in arms, so to speak.

[@waynejohnstone3685]

@@billmyke746electrics cool. But this elon worship is not.

[@hoyks1]

The initial crumple comes to an abrupt end, which can't be good. I'd also be concerned about all those full hard stainless strips and the bonnet disbonding from the vehicle structure and coming at you like swords/guillotine. Pretty sure that your neck isn't meant to bend like that either.

[@sageoz9886]

It’s even scarier for whoever the stainless mobile coffin hits. It’s built out of guillotine blades

[@rogerpearson9081]

Yerr! Should be some good ol' fashioned angle iron and cast iron plates like they used for the Titanic. That'd be safe and a lot more recyclable. Otherwise I love the cybertru... whats that? due for my meds already? Bloody mental asylums!

[@peterjohan6735]

My gosh! Thunderf00t and JC in one video! 2024 starts well! Thank you!

[@crocodile2006]

Will Tesla Model Y be the worlds best selling car again in 2024? ThunderFail and JC cope sessions all round.

[@stefanh616]

Sadly both of them use nothing but conjecture, to generate clickbait, instead of actually waiting for the actual date before they make their judgement. Sure, the videos could indicate problems, but on the other end, we do have Teslas design team that has a proven track record of producing the most safe cars out there, consistently. Ill be waiting for the actual science (data) to make my judgement.

[@mothMagnets]

That brought out the crazys 😂🤣😂🤣

[@rohansprenger6902]

@@stefanh616 Most thunderfoot videos are ok - but any relating to Musk bring out the green-eyed monster in Phil, and most of those are cringeworthy (even when he is correct). Given what we see in the crash tests it's quite possible the tesla will be worse than an F150 (and yes we will have to wait for hard data), but crashes do not happen in isolation in the real world - for overall survivability many other factors have to be considered - like avoiding a crash in the first place - which the cybertruck would seem to be better at given it can significantly outbrake an F150 (yes a subjective one-off test, but the same standard as the crash test in the video above) watch: kzbin.info/www/bejne/eZ3GYZmPZbKFiZo

[@81Saber]

Absolutely love Thunderfoot, High five to both you John and him, for not shying away from reporting things how they actually are. Both Legends! keep up the good work.

[@President_NotSure]

so you'e aware that humanities only hope is putting something in jet fuel to reflect sunlight

[@xpusostomos]

Thunderf00t is a chemist, and the further he departs from that discipline, the more he makes a clown of himself.

[@President_NotSure]

yeah i have no hope for humanity whatsoever

[@Leo-yx7rk]

​​@@xpusostomos I'm interested to know the basis of your own authority on any one (or all*) of these subject matters, and/or the capacity of Messrs Cadogan and Mason to analyse and opine on these matters themselves. (* This is to note a person may possess deep knowledge of more than one discipline or field of expertise. Would you agree?)

[@81Saber]

You two both sound like creationists, flat-earthers, or Muskers :D good for you. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, high 5.

[@DarylOster]

Your work analysis is valid only if the force is constant. In the case of a crash, the distance the head travels is much less important than the peak force (because force is not likely to be constant in a crash). In the case of the f150, the head of the occupants may maintain a higher velocity at first, and then encounter a higher force later, so the peak force could be higher (just applied later). As you allude to (but fail to fully disclose) in the preface of your "analysis" - it is the actual crash dummy head accelerometers and force transducers that tell the full story of head injury potential.

[@lukas_ls]

But that would require an objective analysis done by experts. He’s doing fifth grade math and tries to sell that as a valid analysis

[@davidbuderim2395]

Two and a half minutes to get to the punchline - worth the wait

[@CheeseLovingGuy]

What was it ?

[@davidbuderim2395]

Setup - apologise for calling it cyber urinal, punchline should have called it the cyber coffin@@CheeseLovingGuy

[@MitchCrane]

My brother and his girlfriend were in an auto accident. Both came away with no broken bones or any serious external trauma. She's fine. He got a TBI and can no longer drive, live on his own, nor work. It really brings home the difference these accelerative forces can make.

[@layersoftheonion8168]

Sorry to hear that

[@tazzitiger8171]

F150 took longer reducing the impact on the driver, Cyber truck stopped quicker like an old rigid car putting more force on the driver.

[@hobo1704]

Yep, Elon has no idea. But in the end it is a good thing because it might rid the world of some Tesla delusional fanboys.

[@CheeseLovingGuy]

Yeah imagine that What thickos those guys are And the test designers to boot If the crash doesn't kill you the 48V will for sure Oh and a robot beat up one of the workers And bill gates somehow to do with something

[@davidbrayshaw3529]

And the Insurance Institute for Highway Safety (IIHS}, one of the US's leading independent crash testers rated the F150 as being "poor".

[@SA-nv5tc]

Cheaper to replace body parts on the human than body parts on the cyber coffin!

[@markpage8048]

@@SA-nv5tc Er nonsense comparison - try harder

[@RonBurgandy]

I’m glad you gave thunderf00t the much needed credit he has deserved over the past several years. He’s been a great voice debunking non sense on KZbin

[@OilCanHarry2U]

As they say, speed doesn’t kill …it’s deceleration that’ll do that job.

[@nunchuckfilms]

Not the fall that kills. The sudden stop at the bottom on the other hand.

[@EllisDean-c8s]

@@nunchuckfilms As a British comedian - name escapes me - used to say, 'No need to be afraid of heights, just be afraid of the floor.'

[@Cloxxki]

The longer distance on the F150 secures a lower average deceleration. Peak deceleration matters as well and we don't have that data yet, do we?

[@jonbowes5999]

WoW someone on here actually understands something about basic physics LoL Well done @GordonPavilion... You have correctly observed that the head that travelled less decelerated more quickly than the one the travelled more... The steering column on the Ford causing that faster deceleration!

[@crocodile2006]

And thats why you have you seat belt pre-tensioners... and so head movement isn't a factor

[@Cluuey]

Okay, I've paused it at 10:58 and I'm going to say it's good, that the head travels further as that means the rate of X speed to zero is spread over a, slightly, longer time period and lets the safety features absorb more of the deceleration than the test dummy. I'll also note that I didn't like the look of the CyberCoffin's dummy movement, it looked like the torso move further forward than the head in an uncomfortable way, I think there's a greater chance of a neck fracture in the way it moved.

[@PhiloSage]

In my perspective the F-150 air bag also deployed further from the steering wheel thus spreading the impact out even further. The torso movement in the Tesla didn't impact the airbag at all, thus causing the head to stop and the body to partially separate from the head. So there's significantly increased chances of paralyzation or death. Both are extremely bad.

[@marian-gabriel9518]

Yes because the pyrotechnic cap (or better yet these days - electric motor) in the safety belt mechanism and the air bag are not synchronized...and can cause more harm this way as opposed to not having it on in the first place....though that means the airbag doesn't go off anymore soo...yeah...they managed to get both wrong...

[@MrButtonpresser]

"Space Thanos", made me genuinely LOL. Love your work John. Science, Logic and comedy, three of my favourite things.

[@crocodile2006]

He's just like Thanos... what with the worlds best selling car of 2023. How much cope and seethe can the JC/TF tug buddies take?

[@GameOfLife666]

@@crocodile2006 I assume you're spamming all the negative comments to try making yourself feel better for buying such junk for so much money. Own it.

[@rockape1954]

The slope of the windscreen is different in each car so the airbag has different space to cushion within. I don't know if that is a salient point or not but, its a factor!

[@webreakforsquirrel4201]

A hyper loop in the steering wheel instead of an airbag would have made it giga safe.

[@alexhubble]

Yay Thunderfoot!

[@edwardmccall1032]

The most important data is the g-force during the entire crash. In the F150 case there was more distance, sure, but what was peak g-force during the last bit when contacting the air bag? I would like to see g-force recorded over time for both of them on a transient recorder, and compare how much g load occurred at say 0.001 second intervals.

[@markhenderson5075]

Dude! You are funniest, yet most informative guy in cyberspace. I salute you from Merica

[@russellhammond4373]

Love your work John. Keep it up.

[@richardweyland116]

EXO D96 Daytona ad - AWESOME! Won't be skipping that one!

[@roberthuntley1090]

I've watched the video a few times trying to work out the reason for the difference. If you look at the wing mirrors in the overlapped videos (07:50 onwards) they seem to decelerate at a very similar rate which tends to rule out crumple zone as a factor. On that basis looks to be more linked to the internal trim (especially the air bag).

[@ianknight4333]

It's just a ticker tape experiment from yr 11 physics. Using that rectangular thing in the background the ford stops in 19mm and the Cybertruck in 15mm. (on my screen) So 25 % average higher deceleration. Is that a deal breaker? If you hit a brick wall maybe, but it's mostly just corollas that you'll hit. Head on with an F150? Well the cybertruck is 25% heavier than an F150 which will level the max head deceleration.

[@ianknight4333]

I suppose the bottom line is. Does it pass the test according to US authorities? They're not planning to sell many outside of the US I'd guess.

[@JoeOvercoat]

@@ianknight4333. The car that you talk about running over in your post above also passes the government tests and gets a five star rating. This matters to anyone with a modicum of humanity.

[@tomnewham1269]

@@ianknight4333I would think a 25% different would play a bigger impact to a person in a crash. Secondly a Cybertruck is going to hit way more different vehicles than a Corolla size vehicle as there are many vehicles bigger than a small car on our roads. Thirdly there are objects on the side of the road that will win in any crash, gum trees, power poles and concrete barriers. Stop making excuses for a vehicle that is just marketing fluff.

[@georgescott4505]

I'm so glad to own a 1977 Ford LTD. I don't have all the problems with today's modern cars. Granted its a base model that lacks all the amenities that make it a luxury car, but I did add AC and a radio with a tape player to it. And with the smooth as silk power steering, power brakes and the ride engineered suspension It feels like the Mercury Gran Marquis of its time.

[@ohgord-qc3qd]

This reminds me of Top Gears' "Hammerhead Eagle I Thrust" a.k.a. "Geoff". It looks like where the design style came from as well! Can you do a review of that for comparison?

[@Theweouthereforrealclub-]

If I had a million billion dollars and didn’t care id put a Geoff sticker on a cyber truck. I wouldn’t park it next to my miura or f40 though lol

[@FuckGoogle502]

@@Theweouthereforrealclub- No shit, it gets it's own containment garage, well away from the Miura lol

[@neilforbes1082]

John, John, John your sincerity is only exceeded by your good looks.

[@jedrek1521]

Always had a feeling you watched his vids, birds of a feather. Been watching him since "Why do people laugh at creationists" series. Just found your vids and your way of delivering same info is very very entertaining. Thank you both for the voice of reason out there

[@Davidcallard]

So that's where we went wrong; by not listening to the 'Voice of Reason!' Or maybe it's because we did.

[@jedrek1521]

@Davidcallard we've been listening to that voice for a few hundred years now, if by we you mean humanity. And yeah, we made a few wrong turns at points due to uninformed, misinformed, or ill-informed people.

[@BD-bditw]

I guess that JC was a fan of Father Ted also.

[@FlatWorld_Jomhuri_Regime]

This is no joke. As a serious head-front collision victim from a teenage idiot driving on the wrong side of the road. This is not a joke. Good work John 👍

[@JacksonPhixesPhones]

Thunderf00t represent! Love to see it. He's referenced a few of your clips regarding the Semi. Collab!

[@spocko2181]

I’m one of the maniacs who has ordered this thing, and I think you’re great. Maybe after I crash they can just bury the whole thing?

[@nickmalone3143]

Thats a great business model ...

[@spocko2181]

@@nickmalone3143Indeed. It’s kind of like how people used to view auto safety in the 50s; “Bigger =safer.”

[@krissteel4074]

If the batteries cook off you can have a viking funeral!

[@Leo-yx7rk]

Willie The Wimp Song by Stevie Ray Vaughan Willie the wimp was buried today They laid him to rest in a special way Sent him off in the finest style That casket-mobile really drove 'em wild Southside Chicago will think of him often Talkin' 'bout Willie the wimp and his Cadillac coffin Willie the wimp and his Cadillac coffin That casket, it looked like a fine Seville He had a vanity license and a Cadillac grille Willie was propped up in the driver's seat He had diamonds on his fingers and a smile sweet Fine red suit had the whole town talkin' Willie the wimp and his Cadillac coffin Yeah Willie the wimp and his Cadillac coffin In his Cadillac to heaven he was wavin' the banner He left like he lived, in a lively manner With a-hundred dollar bills in his fingers tight He had flowers for wheels and a-flashin' headlights He been wishin' for wings, no way he was walkin' Talkin' 'bout Willie the wimp and his Cadillac coffin Yeah, Willie the wimp and his Cadillac coffin Willie the wimp, his Cadillac coffin Willie the wimp, Cadillac coffin Willie the wimp, Cadillac coffin Source: LyricFind Songwriters: Bill Carter / Ruth Ellsworth-Carter Willie The Wimp lyrics © Little Brother Music Inc.

[@spocko2181]

@@krissteel4074the neat part is that the truck would keep burning even after it sank.

[@ebaystars]

i sold acceleromters and inertial guidance systems, I was told dont drop them bcz a coin dropped onto a concrete slab experiences a 1000G decelleration, which tends to destroy the equipment!

[@davidpickard9393]

John I have come to the conclusion that you are not on the waiting list for a Cyber Truck

[@CheeseLovingGuy]

He is though and obsessed with getting one asap The whole purpose of this channel is to get those above him on the wait list to cancel His final video is going to be him saying so long suckers and driving it off into the distance

[@RussellStewart]

@@CheeseLovingGuy I doubt we will ever see them on Australian roads. The pedestrian safety requirements in Aus will take care of that.

[@oldbloke100]

@@RussellStewart Thank Christ.

[@Dazza-u4c]

Electric Jesus himself has said that it is only for Nth America.

[@trythis2821]

@@RussellStewartPedestrian safety is that the vehicle will avoid hitting people with technology (crash avoidance) and other types of measures (auditable sounds etc.). Can't see any pedestrian getting hit by a big truck whatever the brand walking away.

[@oldarkie3880]

The biggest danger is to other drivers. This thing weighs over 6,000 pounds! It's a moving sledge hammer.

[@kylereese4822]

The Hummer EV is the heaviest GM vehicle at 9,063 pounds,

[@g0fvt]

John, rewatch the two crash videos, the Cybertruck "driver" appears to have their face smashed into the steering wheel/yoke yet the body continues to move, jerking the neck through a severe angle. This does not happen to any great extent with the Ford. I don't know the intricacies of crash survival but the outcome does look far more optimistic for the Ford driver. FWIW another video of the Cybertruck crash test appears to show the rear suspension coming apart with the front impact, to me that suggests huge g-forces transmitted through the structure, I do realise that the Ford live axle on leaf springs will behave differently...

[@สุภารัตร์ศรีบุริน]

Years ago when I crashed my old Mitsubishi pickup into a tree on a divided highway at around 50mph I walked away from the wreck. The tree and the pickup were buggered. That sold me on airbags! I think it's highly likely the Cyber coffin driver would be carried away.

[@RussellStewart]

The CyberCoffin has rear wheel steering, so it's going to move to some extent. Was it overly excessive? Dunno, one for the brain-boffins.

[@g0fvt]

@@RussellStewart yes, that might be a factor, I have seen the suspension detail. Of course you could argue that in such an impact shedding some mass might be a good thing.

[@FuckGoogle502]

@@RussellStewart I saw that video. The rear-steer components physically came apart. It didn't just move.

[@6teeth318-w5k]

Breaking: Man who wanted to get buried in his Tesla, got his wish a bit sooner than he wanted. Riddle me that.

[@craigsurbrook5702]

Absolutely amazing truthful take and presentation of this issue.

[@ArturoEspinosaAldama]

One of my favorite youtubers quoting another of my favorites. That's epic.

[@Cloxxki]

Sincere question. With which velocity is the same size airbag hit in each case? In thin air, does the body get slowed down a lot?

[@alimfuzzy]

Love the thunderf00t shout out. He's one of my favourite channels.

[@martinblizard1882]

I had to stop watching your video momentarily until I stopped laughing. It still is and will always be a urinal. I will now continue to watch the rest of your vid. Brilliant. Keep it up.

[@djohnsto2]

Both you and Thunderf00t have the amazing ability to take a criticism of Elon/Tesla and stretch it out into a video longer than ever thought possible.

[@wbwarren57]

Great video! Thanks for mentioning the hyper loop, the greatest invention of any century for any civilization for all time, anywhere in the universe! Based on Elon‘s latest predictions from last week, I look forward to taking the hyper loop from Boston to Sydney next year on New Year’s Day!

[@mrvwbug4423]

Annnnnnddddddd, hyper loop went out of business about a month ago haha.

[@simont1108]

Shine a light at 17.00 you confirmed my educated guess. Nice one John ,and you're spot on ,we stand on the shoulders of giants.

[@AbbStar1989]

When JC drops a video it makes my day. I'll even listen to him on Spotify travelling to and from work.

[@bobohare6240]

Some of your best work John Keep it up.

[@Kaozau]

great video.. i cant stop laughing how serious you were yet subtly sarcastic at the same time with a straight face. Oh great explanation on physics for dummies too :-)

[@AutoExpertJC]

Thank you. Straight face is harder than high school physics...

[@crocodile2006]

@@AutoExpertJCHey JC, can you tell your audience what the worlds best selling car was last year? Go on... give it a try. Cope and Seethe mate... Cope and Seethe.

[@_gramcrakka_82]

​@crocodile2006 does it matter?they are still shit. 12-20k for a new battery after 100-150k Get a life.

[@GTRgeoff]

I made an engineering career based upon impact mechanics and neutralising the human organism. Some amazing physics goes on inside a skull, and it is well adapted to perform its function of protecting the brain, but there are limits and impulse loads are not well handled. As mentioned in comments, Dale Earnhardt Sr fought against bringing HANS devices into NASCAR and ultimately passed in an accident that HANS would have likely saved him. People will still do stupid things based on ego and hopefully self delete before propagating. Some may even think it’s an acceptable risk in spite of the evidence but likely they lack the physics education for that to be an educated decision.

[@rohansprenger6902]

What's safer though, a vehicle that performs better in a crash test, or one that is able to avoid the collision? kzbin.info/www/bejne/eZ3GYZmPZbKFiZo

[@GTRgeoff]

@@rohansprenger6902 obvious isn’t it? That is why both functions are tested to determine efficacy and compliance with design regulations.

[@BCNeil]

But on the other hand, they do kill the people in the other vehicle too.

[@MattBlack6]

Probably pesky ice drivers.

[@travis9611]

have been a thunderfoot fan for years.. only makes sense I am a fan of you since your Dutch oven video 👍 keep the truth flowing Mr Cadogan.

[@pixelcaisa]

One extra thing that I see in the cybertruck test is that the dummy's neck bends more which is not good, obviously

[@InternetListener]

7:51 after watching frame by frame both crash test I can only say, without having time and distance stamps analysis, that: - F150 airbags deployment is very convenient and has little room for improvement. - Tesla Truck airbag deployment is so slow that it starts to when Ford's is already holding dummy's head, precious time lost. - F150 chassis/body rebounds, gets to 0 speed before Tesla's, and head is already solidary with it, while Tesla shows there is still room to lower the average Force... - Tesla keeps absorbing energy in their truck body while head hits the airbag way faster than in Ford's (shorter distance between driver position and and front impact sensor/beginning of the truck plays a role). You definitely want to keep dummy/occupants speed as close to the crashing vehicle or minimize kinetic energy transfer to them and avoid biomechanical hazards, Tesla has much room for improvement. - We don't have data to assume 3rd stage of the crash (1st vehicle to obstacle, 2nd body to vehicle, 3rd life being internals vs skeleton or new shape of the crashing body) is safe in either of two. That means without data proving contrary Ford's occupants may withstand severe injuries if vehicle to obstacle forces and kinetic energies are still too high or transferred to them. - We need to see the measured dummy deceleration pulsation and see actual equivalent G's. I'm not hitting a wall at 35 mph with any of those trucks until F150 crushes more and enhances it's airbag+belt to the available arc-length shown by Tesla. Not driving a Tesla until they fit a proper preventive Ford like steering driving position, drive belts and airbag system. Aprox measuring of distances of the arc described by head's trajectories appear to be similar, so I would do a frame by frame position and timing and velocity and deceleration assessment in order to max out the information shown in synced video comparison... not obvious conclusion without video photogrametry and plotting some data... I don't see any good crash test result or no reason for not calling death trap any truck...I guess body on frame... althought they emulate in a certain level autoportant body or uni-body or however is called in english... Ironman and Robert Downey Jr. wannabe mine heir entrepreneur is just a meme of himself... there is one day investors are going to ask what is their money used for and maybe we'll see one of the fastest downfalls of all times... If money was not a problem I will crash faster them just to see at what speed (or EBS) A- Pilar to roof (or roof-less c-pilar triangle shape) angle starts to be a safety problem... 35 mph is not 40 mph overlapp from EuroNcap, neither 50 to 60 mph in front colision... full overlap is good to achieve high G and destroy full width and share the injuries but crashes have more variety in real life...

[@HiddenHotdog444]

It’s Doctor Mason (or Professor), not mister Mason. He’s earned his title.

[@KnightXV]

Hi Mason 👋

[@liamrobertson7265]

ha i just made the same comment

[@HiddenHotdog444]

@@KnightXV sup Elon

[@BarklyMitford]

It’s like the sarcasm literally drips from every word you utter. Amazing skill, reminds me of a used car salesman I knew.

[@ricksomething]

He's a douche.

[@fromgermany271]

You did not take into account the inherent airbag included inside the CT‘s buyers scull 😂

[@josephfbuck]

I commented on a video on Yahoo and I used your term cybertruck urinal and they would let me post it he was mentioning all the shortfalls of the wannabe four-wheel drive

[@tinolino58]

I am amused! Great report like always! Love your straight face when you apologized 🥳 Hilarious!!!

[@hainesy67]

I couldn't stand your segments on sunrise. Glad I found your channel mate, live your work🙂

[@russellford9016]

Love your work John. I reckon you should get on the stand up comedy roundabout. I'd buy tickets. 😂

[@madlucio70]

That was awesome John. The Cyberdump is the realization of the absolutely ridiculous graphics from the early Matrox and Voodoo3D days. These rigidly angled attempts at beauty were bad enough to look at in video games, and thanks to Tesla, we get to see them in real life...

[@ptamog]

I saw the initial analysis from Thunderf00t I thought that that video may not age well. It is too much of an oversimplification. Thunderf00t is a brave science troll of the internets… I like him. The exoskeleton does not really exist; underneath the body panels this thing looks like a “conventional tesla”. Tesla has a good record for passenger safety. This one is easy. At some point safety results will be published and we will see how it goes…

[@user-gk1nt6sm2z]

You don't get it. Did you go to school?

[@lukas_ls]

@@user-gk1nt6sm2zprobably. Those videos are just wrong

[@kylereese4822]

Thunderfoot oooh the guy who is still trying to figure out how salt dissolves in water.... and had a command centre in his mum basement.

[@JJFX-]

Science troll is a perfect description. He has had decent scientific content for easy targets but he's so far down the Elon hole now that he often resorts to throwing the scientific method out the window. He strawmans out of context clips like "the cybertruck can't even go over a curb" or how "spacex is cheering their own rocket blowing up" to feed the fanbase. He'll also pull data convenient to a narrative while omitting contradicting information and gaslights viewers when he's wrong into believing he was actually right. All while propping himself up as some infallible hero who never fails. That's not to say criticisms aren't warranted but he knows exactly what he's doing and has realized this is much more lucrative content.

[@alexpang5054]

Just discovered your channel! You are a wonderful Aussie prat- I am subscribing immediately! Wonderful crass crap, cant wait to see more!

[@Chillertek]

Makes the Delorian look like a ferrari

[@jessgatt5441]

I figger a lotta' lamb still rolls north out of Aussie-land, I have cut a great deal of it over my working term. Anyhow, what you produce is just as good a product, easily digested and nutritious. Many thank-the-hell out of you for the informative humor. You are one of my many morning kick-offs.

[@dougstubbs9637]

Electric Cadillac coming to Australian shores this year….fresh cannon fodder for AEJC. Bring it on, Mary Burra ! Cheers, MALS.

[@theairstig9164]

Is that the Cadillac Lyriq that someone mocked up as RHD in the Cadillac ANZ website but still don’t have an authority to put a compliance plate on. Or, is it the Cadillac Lyriq nobody will ever be able to afford? Maybe you are talking about the human capable drone that doesn’t have a type certificate and has never been seen since 2021? People want to know

[@ansdguy1]

You must be confusing the Lyriq with the Mystique. The Lyriq is in production, however the Battery supplier is not producing the batteries in a timely manner due to some issue on their end. While the Mystiq will cost over $300K, the Lyriq is priced at $60K has few options. The automotive press is in love with the cars that they have driven. It’s range, btw, is much more than the mfgr. And the EPA predicts. Still confused?

[@theairstig9164]

@@ansdguy1either way the Cadillac ANZ website says the Lyriq V is not available and the configurations, options, pricing and some other details … like if this “product” will ever be offered for sale … are not mentioned. Australia remembers GM. Not in a good way

[@jackdough8164]

I’ve been watching thunderfoot for years now! Love his content

[@windsolarupnorth7084]

The difference between the F-150 and the the Cybertruck crash test is similar to jumping down from the roof and hitting a trampoline (F-150) or a concrete floor (Cybertruck).

[@argonthesad]

A death trap! Quick contact the NHTSA. Oh wait they already tested the Cybertruck and passed it as safe.

[@ericrotermund1004]

Not only that but it make ice too

[@SevenSixTwo2012]

Tesla's Cyber-Tuck is not about practicality or safety as a "truck", it's about showing off one's newest status symbol and disposable income at little Timmy's soccer practice.

[@Peye-pv4cb]

We all wait for the accidents

[@huskytail]

I'd rather display it with a beautiful Porsche 😍

[@ericrotermund1004]

It’s more about letting engineers go wild Who has the balls to build anything steer by wire.

[@briankinder9292]

Looking at the two videos, I may be more concerned by the head movement on the Tesla, it bends back rather a lot, force then becomes a bi added factor.

[@jasonpocaro2730]

Driving your own death container... Genius actually 😂🎉 Heavy, Strong & SHORT stopping distance = CRUNCH ☠️ 🤯

[@mrvwbug4423]

It's like the polar opposite of cars of the 50s and 60s. Those cars that Boomers love to claim are safer than any modern car ... have the structural integrity of a wet noodle. Cyber truck is too tank like, to the point where it's not absorbing crash energy.

[@schwarzwolfram7925]

If the vehicle doesn't crunch, you will.

[@jasonpocaro2730]

@@schwarzwolfram7925 Conservation of energy... Your still moving, the cyber-coffin isn't 🤯

[@QuietJugung]

10:55 If you stop the car slowly, your head will not move. If you brake hard your head will fly forward due to the momentum. So it should be obvious in a crash test, the least your head moves, the better it is. The crumple zone of the car absorb the energy instead of your head. Interestingly, other than the passengers cabin, the more the car breaks apart in a crash, the safer it is for the passengers. F1 car is designed to disintegrate in a crash apart from the driver cage to absorb as much energy as possible.

[@craighewitson9418]

Nice! Hypothesis forming is the first step in the scientific method and is often based on a guess from initial observations. As learned scientists and engineers, you and Philip should go out and perform further testing (crashing some Cybertrucks sounds like fun), gather empirical data, analyse said data, and form a conclusion based on this data. Report your findings and have it peer reviewed. Your hypothesis may well be correct but without all of the data we can't be sure. We'll have to wait for the NHTSA (or similar) to complete the science.

[@FixtIt]

Those people didn't make a $100 commitment to reserve a $100k vehicle that they can definitely afford just so you could make fun of them.

[@kylereese4822]

Jeep rolls over at 35mph in US crash safety test, side airbags non fitted. missing faces, smashed skulls, brain matter on the road , torn off hands arms all guaranteed...

[@LearnAboutFlow]

You're really comparing apples to something that isn't fruit. The Cybertruck crash test must be compared with urinal crash tests, and given the latter doesn't have airbags I'm guessing the Cybertruck will win. Keep up the good work, John. You're one of the few sane voices in this insane world.

[@HansCSchellenberg]

Thunderf00t is a smart guy, been following him for many years.

[@fryertuck6496]

I once fell onto a floor made from DD silicone implants. Came up sucking my own thumb. 😓

[@johnclamshellsp1969]

Here in 60004 USA, a new GM electric Hummer was smoking underneeth badly, two days ago on RT 355 south. Police and fire were present

[@RealButcher]

Damn.... are you talking with a gun to your head? Blink twice if I'm right.... 😂 That apology.... at the start. And then that turnaround... well done Sir. ❤ BT Thunderf00t is also one of those real stuff / reality lovers. And then: "we're not talking about that today" hahahahah... while talking about it / those mommies 😂❤

[@conmanumber1]

Cybertruck is the most beautiful rig ever designed . It also kicks arse on drag strips against Porsches even hitched to trailer with another Porsche on deck.

[@jamesmartin4500]

I want my solar roof, my hyperloop, my Semi that can run for 1,000,000 miles with breaking down, my Full Self Driving from one coast of the USA to the other without touching the steering wheel, and of course my Robo Taxi that is going to generate $200,000 dollars in returns per year to me.

[@Cloxxki]

You'll get the coast to coast rn by 2017. It's set in stone. Elon promised I it will take place as he said, in 2017.

[@davidbrayshaw3529]

I'm moving to Mars.

[@MrTaxiRob]

John and Phil is the crossover arc I never thought I'd see, but I'm glad I lived long enough to do so.

[@RogerM88]

What about the claimed range falling short from the hype. Not that better than a Rivian R1T or Ford F-150 Lightning. Either way, it's a niche truck targeting a wealthy sub-urban costumer base, consuming Greenwashing.

[@rohansprenger6902]

ICE vehicles rarely achieve their claimed efficiency either. 😊

[@parazoecial]

I love your delivery dude

[@NoGufff]

Phil is an absolute legend. His climate change analyses are quite sobering.

[@aliendroneservices6621]

3:44

[@GarageSupra]

The best thing is we will never see this on the road in Australia (and most of the EU) because it fails our standards. *sigh of relif*

[@barryj388]

Reminds me of the old saying: "It's not the fall that kills you, it's the sudden stop."

[@timothykeith1367]

I hope the Cybertruck succeeds

[@YouShouldThink4Yourself]

Glad to see you admitting you're wrong! It couldn't be a urinal, I and millions of others wouldn't waste their piss on it! I want to see one of the fanboys try the Dakar rally in one.... see how far they get down that road!

[@silvaanosvs8783]

Wonderful playlist. Today, I only want to be treated to whatever fElon Mush - related fails are on display. And now, John, we need a video about the rust issues of the Cyber Veggie Slicer