Tesla Model S LR Palladium 1000 km challenge

[@propergander8509]

It’s mad to think that the new Model S is getting the same “laptime” in winter as the EQS 450 in the summer while being a mere 5 minutes worse than a Nio battery swap run and the PHEV reference run. Well done, Tesla!

[@davidkendall2272]

Wow, thanks for doing this Bjorn. I love my 2022 MSLR and you just gave me more reasons to be excited about my third MS as an early adopter starting with my 2012 MS85.

[@topgunm]

Weird that you have the heat issue on your knees with BOTH Model S cars. I drove my MS Plaid Oslo - Trysil with 3 friends a month or so back, and it was minus 15. No problem at all in regards to heating - front or back. I had it on auto / low.

[@MrSpyke321]

Gotta love those good old 1000 km challenges!

[@ShortVersion1]

Thank you, Bjorn. I went to look at the spreadsheet, to see if the dates between Plaid and Palladium were far enough apart to chalk the charging difference up to battery optimization updates (preconditioning algo). I think you put the wrong year date in for this test. It says 2022. Maybe it is just a matter of software update for preconditioning. I know with powerwalls, the updates go out to specific configurations earlier.

[@krstnphil]

3:26 DnB Track hits good :D

[@minso8164]

At this temperature, that's simply incredible. Basically 1st in the ranking now.

[@karolisbasevicius3433]

Since EV is getting so good. Now make sense to do 1000km in german or poland autobahn under 140km/h or summer 150km/h.

[@yhfsywfit]

Great video, Bjorn. Great music as well. Thanks

[@slijkhuis]

Man I love the scandinavian 1000 km challenges. 😎 have a good weekend everyone!

[@cez8017]

Thanks!

[@AlvinBul]

Regarding the cold. I recently thought the same thing as I gelot into - 9c.. It turned out the car developed HVAC problem. So most probably its bad HVAC.. Not blowing hot enough air.

[@dejanskrivalnik4663]

Bjorn, we have similar issues that some Tesla cars can't lock the charging plug. Tesla tries to lock it, you hear click, click, click,... sounds and then it gives up. The charging starts slowly anyway but that is still a problem. What is the problem, Tesla or a plug? The answer is Tesla unfortunately. What can help? You plug-in the charging plug and then you push it in really hard (I mean very hard) especially on the left side and usually the Tesla will be able to lock the plug. Otherwise visit a Tesla service and maybe hey can realign the locking mechanism. I hope this will help you and many others with the same problem that exists only on some Tesla cars.

[@FCFimpair]

Great music in this episode! Charge port problem with new Tesla S should be fixed.

[@Timo-qb1gf]

Same issues with my M3. The latching issue usually solves by pulling up the handle slightly during the locking. Since the update for "Lo / Med / Hi" settings came I've had cold feet, feels like no warm air being directed to the feet.

[@TheKingpleb]

I'd love to see the new plaid and palladium charging speeds posted in the same screen as the old model s battery pack options to show how much quicker they charge as well. Could help a lot of people see how good the packs are.

[@paescu_2k350]

Hey Bjørn. Just saw that it will get very cold next week in Oslo and Geilo. Maybe time for some cold weather testing?

[@marc_396]

We had the latching problem on our MYP from Berlin as well. Contacted Tesla and they replaced it because of warranty.

[@danielburges8176]

I'm sensing you need to do this test again in the summer time....... Always Be Testing

[@donphobos]

Great to have the passport ready at 4 minutes, love it 😀

[@jonathanlam1839]

Bjorn, you put in a wrong date in your sheet (15:22). 2022 in stead of 2023.

[@marcmartin1972]

very interesting but pity you did not take time tu put for each stop the charging curve.

[@supaahflyy]

Basically with equal weather as the 3 other cars above it the Long Range should be the fastest comfortably if done in 15-20 degree temperature like the others were

[@SULFURIOUS]

Can't wait for Ioniq 6 AWD and RWD (77kWh), EQE/EQS heatpump refresh, Audi Q8 55 Sportback, TMY (Berlin-made) and Nio ET5 tests. 2023 is going to be a good year for BEV market.

[@davemiller6121]

DSP, always your best comment makes me laugh every time ⏲️ 😆

[@teslaw-model3]

dual motor / permanent magnet motor drive units?

[@e30tomas54]

There is no real difference for Performance vs standard in this type of driving. In my P100D from 2017r there is no difference too. It's because when you check power from front engine vs rear at ScanMyTesla then you'll see that with small energy usage all power goes only to the FRONT motor. And this is the one which is more efficient and it is the same on Performance and Long Range versions. So with driving at constant speed with small power consumption all AWD Teslas are FWD.

[@rydionnas6796]

It would be very nice if you would put the music choice in aswell, thanx.

[@rubbermoetroken]

Hi Bjorn, love your vids. I am at the virtue of ordering a Plaid but am wondering about the consumption. I do notice your tests at 90 and 120kmh (GPS). However, ABRP uses a reference consumption at 110kmh. Would it be possible to align your consumption tests with that reference consumption at 110kmh ? That would allow ABRP users to use your data to check their itineraries more accurate. Thanks.

[@paulluo4104]

What is the app used in video? To see all the battery details? Thanks

[@bjornnyland]

Scan My Tesla

[@user-ie8vn6yr1r]

15:20 your date is on 2022 but it should be 2023 :)

[@evport1610]

Bjørn , nice video buddy!! Can you inform about the verage charging price per Kw in Norway? Thanks!

[@georgepelton5645]

*kWh. Bjørn did a video comparing prices between charging networks a few years ago. Try KZbin search.

[@evport1610]

@@georgepelton5645 I will. Thanks!

[@khuo0219]

Even more impressive when you consider the average temperate of this test is below 0.

[@V10BR]

We want to see taycan with 20 inch tyres and the new 2023 software!!

[@isnogood-]

Will you test a baby seat on the isofix?

[@bjornnyland]

Of course

[@theredbaron7302]

First time i see plaid loose a battle

[@bilgyno1]

This is a great performance and shows it's already posible to travel as fast with an EV as with a fossil car. However, for most people with a family, this is already a moot point. 10-15 minutes just isn't enough for a proper break. So even a slower charging EV will work just fine. Just did 2000+ km with a Model Y RWD and never once did we need to wait for the car to finish charging after doing the bathroom, coffee/eat and leg stretches.

[@fragharvester8299]

i have the same problem at my home wallbox with my dez 2022 model 3LR mic the connector dont snaps in at the most first trys, then i pull the connector a little bit left and right and then it snapps in. there is so problem with the tolerance i think.

[@KuramaKitsune1]

@7:20 i saw one frame of 519KW, 695.99 HP Also, his voice is hilarious at 0.25x speed

[@pedantic79]

Do you think running the 1000km challenge again during the summer will shave off those 5 minutes?

[@tarunnangia]

Do you get the issue of IONITY pre heating in Tesla is an issue. It does not show as charging stations and does not pre condition

[@hwmason530]

My legs never felt cold when I drove my plaid.

[@evaddicted3224]

I do like watching 1K km challenges with cars that get straight to Varberg and charge well above 150kw. I wish, some day, to see a car that gets straight to Helsingborg form Oslo.

[@apple4youngsters874]

Awesome result. Would love to see this test in summer again. Also I still think that the Taycan RWD can match this time at least in summer. That would be also interesting.

[@Elektroauto1984]

😂

[@BVZTIII]

@@Elektroauto1984 what's so funny? The Taycan 4S that Bjørn drove did 580 km in his test, plus it charges a lot quicker than Plaid/Palladium especially in higher percentages, so you could save a few minutes by *not* "burst charging", which is what Tesla drivers typically do.

[@Elektroauto1984]

@@BVZTIII impossible for taycan, i have both and the efficiency of the porsche is really terrible.

[@BVZTIII]

@@Elektroauto1984 sure you have both 😂 Yet you contradict every test the internet offers with that statement. Emphasis on "test". EPA and WLTP are unreliable bullcrap. Bjørn actually did 580 km in the 4S.

[@Elektroauto1984]

@@BVZTIII you got none like I understand :D 580km with driving 80-90km/h... lol

[@dGanger]

360km .. though model s plad was rated at 628km distance... I know -3 and heat on, but still just over half range...

[@dGanger]

@@Arpedk thanks but would have thought the range would have been a bit closer to 500 even at those speeds. Bit disappointing, maybe more interesting if kept at 120 to see range at actual normal driving. 1000k and normal range would be done in the 1vid

[@dGanger]

@@Arpedk chill my man... 120k is a realistic speed and should be reflected by car makers in their range stats. Not 18 degree weather down hill 😂

[@DG-uv3zw]

In summer, closer to 500km... If you drive it to 0, that is...

[@dGanger]

@@DG-uv3zw interesting, know it depends on conditions and such but around 500km as apposed 623 is a hell of a difference for 30km/h extra

[@you2be839]

"rated at 628km distance"... do you mean WLTP range? Because that's a mixed speed and totally different kind of test... it should never be compared with these 1000km@120km/h tests!

[@galax64]

I thought palladium was model 3 refresh code ?

[@bjornnyland]

No, that's Highland.

[@mustafahumar4386]

Sorry can someone explain what the palladium is. I thought it was long range or Plaid?

[@bjornnyland]

electrek.co/2020/07/21/tesla-secret-project-palladium-new-model-s-model-x/

[@pedipedi9559]

The air conditioning in Tesla sucks. I have the same issue with my Model 3.

[@voltspc9394]

Personally I have had similar "cold knee" issues in my 21 M3 LR, Preconditioning the cabin fixes it but if I'm starting from cold then I get cold knees

[@rudyyyxu]

10:43 going above 125 haha

[@megapet777]

damn 150k€ car and charge port has alignment issues xD

[@jrherita]

"only 700 horsepower"

[@insevanhouts]

Imagine someone told you 5 years ago this would be a common review sentence in the near future

[@Andy4prg]

Hi Bjorn, I was wondering if you could include tests of discharge over a week. I think that would be interesting for people who live in an apartment. Thanks

[@sworksm552]

Model S is the most beautiful car.

[@topgunm]

agreed. Loved it since I first saw the first Model S. Has just gotten better and better. LOVE the newest refresh. It's more cleaner than the older ones, and wider..

[@NISMOSkylineGTR]

You guys need your eyes checked 😜 Looks like a cheap entry level Dodge.

[@frobblefabulus6181]

What after 1000km challenge? My suggestion 1000km challenge but top every model to 80% at the end. The car is "ready to use" after the challenge and therefore a more practical use case for long range jurneys (which do not end at the home charger).

[@peterzerfass4609]

9+ hour drive a day is already beyond (un)reasonable in terms of staying attentive. If you're really going that long then you'll probably stop for the night, anyhow.

[@heriansyahx]

🙏

[@tridrean]

❤️❤️❤️

[@mistercaillou1]

*2023 this year Bjorn 😂

[@thomaseriksson3182]

Tack!👍🌹

[@Chris-pd2uv]

Very very interesting video, as always I am surprise of that consumption , thanks a lot Man

[@DblOSmith]

I have the same temp issue in my MYP. The air flow/distribution is terrible and I have to crank all the heat to get any heat. Shame we don't get all that waste heat to use like ICE cars. :)

[@BVZTIII]

It's really time to take your 1000 km challenges to Germany. Those tests become too limited by laws.

[@bjornnyland]

Nope. You don't understand the purpose of 1000 km challenge.

[@BVZTIII]

@@bjornnyland what purpose would that be other than reaching the destination as quickly as possible then? If I'm only allowed to roll at turtle speeds, the ones with good aero don't shine at all. Even limited to 140 km/h, we could see what time could actually be saved. Would also punish fat ass SUVs.

[@kuba729]

It should be done also in summer! LR Palladium should then beat even NIO.

[@teledopo]

The year shown in your Excel should be 2023 (at 15:09), not 2022 ;-)

[@laszloszabados6825]

Also Google Drive has the error ofc..

[@zyxlsy]

2023, not 2022😂

[@mcchuddies]

first viewer :) Keep up the great work again Bjorn

[@olavre9005]

What is the main reason Model S beats Model 3 LR? Same-ish range (battery capacity/consumption) in your test sheet and same max charge speed. Better charge curve?

[@tomdrwal5536]

I so much more enjoyed the Thai routes....but maybe it's just me...bored European.... ;)

[@SpecReviewPlus]

If there is a re-test in Summer, it's going to beat the Kia CEED! Crazy!!

[@tridruankham2657]

❤❤❤

[@madrid01full]

I am generally a Tesla fan but this car has tremendous amount of flaws and shortcomings as a car given the price tag...

[@Perakol]

Correct the year:)

[@RENAULTOlivier]

the queen of all cars

[@NISMOSkylineGTR]

But still, a decent fossil car would not need to be refilled for such a short trip. My 2009 BMW 730d can easily do 1300-1400km on one tank. The later G11 730d has done London to Madrid in one tank, with fuel to spare. (1651km) So still not as fast as a diesel car for long trips. Also, refilling the 730d for another 1651++ km will only take 180seconds. Also, a old 730d with 300'000km, will still have the same range, a 300'000km Model S will not.

[@normis99]

Nobody cares, dude

[@egonrein4060]

I'm starting to think that these tests are starting to lose validity.

[@bjornnyland]

Why?

[@marcelsilveira1117]

First!😊

[@huboz0r]

500 KW more than enough for a nerdgasm :D

[@MichaelEricMenk]

500 Kelvin Watts???

[@notymike709]

Not as cold on your legs if you put it on recirculate.

[@bjornnyland]

Then you get fogging.