Tesla Model Y vs Porsche Macan GTS: ICE VS EV Shootout | Fifth Gear

In the second episode of the brand new series of Fifth Gear Recharged, Plato gets behind the wheels of Telsa's Model Y and Porsche's Macan GTS for an ICE VS EV shootout!.
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[@fullfast1970]

Shame you didn't put the MYLR against the standard Macan or put the proper Model Y Performance up against the Performance Macan

[@lambosuperl]

Great video, but a Performance Y with Track Mode would have been a fairer match 🙌🏼

[@ezekielsystems]

Totally agree, and for about the same 64k pound price.

[@sur_face]

@@ezekielsystems They just dropped the price to around $56K 😀

[@christophejergales7852]

It still would've gotten beaten like Jesus during the sixteen stages of the cross.

[@SaidAlRashdi]

Exactly

[@MarkSanders77A]

Yep espesh with TRACK MODE

[@ScottvanBreda]

Choosing the long range instead of the performance is dumb

[@superspeeder]

Does the Performance with Track Mode cost more?

[@ScottvanBreda]

@@superspeeder about the same as the Porsche

[@plastiquemaraj8839]

@@superspeeder yes but still less than the Porsche

[@L3uX]

@@superspeeder Depending on options for the Porsche, yes it can somewhat higher to much higher in cost vs. Performance MY.

[@stevemcnivenscott]

The YP goes to what 0-60 in 3.2 and he uses the 4.8LR..? So porche gets their TOP model vs Teslas lowest. Yeah great test

[@tongtran007]

Great to see the model Y but please do a model Y performance next time and don’t forget track mode.

[@wakkadakkaify]

yeah then you get a macan turbo though right?

[@sur_face]

@@wakkadakkaify As long as they're close in price

[@wakkadakkaify]

@@sur_face I didn't know this but apparently there's no Macan turbo anymore :s GTS is the highest spec.

[@sur_face]

@@wakkadakkaify oh, so they should be able to get the Per Y easily, especially that they recently dropped the price for it.

[@alexanderb.9084]

Model3 Performance vs Macan, SUV and race track nogo.if you will race, sedans and flat sports Cars are best.

[@1973AdamP]

Fifth Gear; you need to run this comparison again but next time using a Model Y with Acceleration Boost (AB) or with a Model Y Performance. Both still cheaper than the Porche.

[@joekim4345]

cheaper by $25K or more. Nobody buys base porsche macan GTS at $79,900. with options likely well over $90K.

[@harry-eto]

@@joekim4345 good point🧐

[@marcns007]

The Y LR with performance boost would have been very close and the Performance model would be quicker all are less expensive than the Porsche. Do a better comparison next time.

[@981_pdk3]

This GTS did not have the track performance pack ie corsa tyres ptv etc so would be quicker again

[@RustyCyler]

Would have been a better video without the drum track booming during the laps. No background music is always the better choice. At times it was difficult to hear the driver because of the drum solo going on.

[@BHBeckenbauer]

I like that 5th gear updated their format for EV’s, but it’s frustrating how the presenters still don’t know enough about electric cars

[@cokyrobes]

Odd comparison given the pricing. Give the Y the acceleration boost + 20s on Michelin 4s tyres at least! Better yet should be the Performance Model Y!

[@captainphillips7045]

LOL, owning a 23 Macan GTS and having driven and ordered a Tesla Y performance, I can safely say that the Y performance would simply destroy the Macan. The suspension and brakes alone make a huge difference to the grip, but the power bump is huge. Not even a contest

[@manunair9266]

The Model Y Long Range now costs £52,990 (£5010 cheaper than what was mentioned in the video) 0:44

[@ehimenoseghale2642]

Biased should have used the Y performance

[@S2kBPRIME]

Of course you can turn off regen and coast, one button in the menu!

[@chunbaouk]

Rematch with the Model Y Performance now they’re available in the UK! Closer on price and performance…

[@joekim4345]

way cheaper now - the Y performance. it's all selling out due to price drop. better order one now before the wait times lengthen again.

[@justino4489]

Model Y Long Range vs Macan GTS what a joke! Model Y Performance with Track Mode costs less than the Macan GTS and is WAY faster. 🤦‍♂️ Fake News!

[@73henny]

Why not the Model Y Performance?

[@STP-777]

Because Porche would be humiliated instantly ! Costing double price than Tesla this Macan is totally “has been”. On the road and inside. Not even talking about the space inside (Macan is ridiculous compared to TMY) or the load capacity - almost double in TMY compared to this German dinosaur.

[@aroundthewicketchinmusic611]

@@STP-777Maths clearly isnt a strong point of yours is it? How is £64, 470 twice as much as £54,990

[@igortchelzoff3736]

@@STP-777 2 things: First, GTS isn't the fastest trim for Macan either. If you want a Performance Y, then compare to a Macan Turbo. Second, 2 seconds is is a lot for a small track like this; the performance Y probably would still lose.

[@Mark__A]

@@STP-777 Then go and buy a boring box tesla "quality" ev. If that's the standard you need.

[@STP-777]

@@aroundthewicketchinmusic611 MACAN GTS starts at 94 000 € in my country, TMY RWD at 49 000 € without any “eco gouvernement bonus” ; for Macan you have to add “pollution tax” my friend. I’m not even talking about the funny thing that any little gadget as heated seats I.e. are optional in Macan ! You can easily double the base price of your Macan if you want some nice and practical equipments inside and outside. In Tesla’s case you’ll get almost everything with your car for the base price. There are 5 / 6 optional things you can change in your Tesla : outside paint, white inside instead of standard black, wheels size (19 inches are standard), trail hook is an option, and then we have 2 autopilot options and that’s it. Even TMY RWD, the entry level model, has premium sound system that is much better than optional Burmester high sound system in Porsche that will cost you extra 5 000 € here. Would be very surprised if it’s for free or included in your place. So please go to the Porsche site, configure your Macan GTS base version with leather heated seats, sport pack, led lights, more than standard sound system (level 2 “Bose” is + 1 200 € here) and than compare with TMY RWD. In my place Macan starts at 66 000 € plus 40 000 pollution tax = 106 000 € for the base of the base witch is even more than double compared to almost full equipped TMY RWD for 47 900 € with the minimum eco gouv bonus of 2 000 € included. According to your situation the eco bonus may reach 7 000 € here.

[@jysfo5728]

Try comparing a base model Porsche Macan vs the Model Y at the same sticker price and you will get very different results...

[@joetz1]

It looks like the long range version of the Y, not the performance model

[@raduanatol6329]

Correct! It is the long range version

[@renantlobo]

It is the Long Range. The Macan GTS isn't the top performance version either.

[@aaryeshg.6526]

@Mr. Wolf it was, but the Turbo model is no longer available so GTS is now the top model.

[@Jeddin]

@@renantlobo you think any Macan spec can outperform the Model Y performance on track? Not a chance. Maybe the Macan EV when it comes out next year

[@ehudk215]

That was strange. The most basic Model Y on the smallest wheels vs the most focused Mccan? Why?

[@BarryMakariou]

Re match please I’ll bring my MYP along

[@2013TombRaider]

Isn't gts 82k plus? what kinda comparison is this? Get the performance model y which is still gonna cost less but definitely change the results :D

[@SignoPanino]

Macan gts starts from £68k+

[@Jeddin]

@@SignoPanino what’s the price of the model Y Performance?

[@sorinelpustiu5674]

Actually as of yesterday the price of the Tesla Y long range car in the video dropped by 10,000£ and the Performance model Y that outruns every Macan ever built is now 59,000£ Thus this comparison is null. Also all Teslas come fully optioned,there is no "before options"

[@plastiquemaraj8839]

Love the Macan but u should have compared it to the model y performance not the long range. It also has track mode in which u can turn off the regeneration braking.

[@Cloxxki]

Will the brakes be up for it a whole lap with regen off?

[@sudeeptaghosh]

Also M Y performance would have been closer to the cost of that macan too .. not a fair comparison best Macan taken but not the best M Y

[@plastiquemaraj8839]

@@Cloxxki the brakes are not as good as the Porsche ones ofc but they are better than the normal version

[@plastiquemaraj8839]

@@sudeeptaghosh exactly

[@plastiquemaraj8839]

@@Cloxxki its a small track anyways so I don’t think it’s a problem

[@simonhale839]

Either compare the Macan base model to base model y. Or performance model y to the GTS. I myself have always been curious. But don’t take the slowest model y and compare to the fastest macan. No one will take you seriously.

[@gaycha6589]

Disagree. They are comparative in cost, weight and power outputs

[@tonydixon2684]

Did you miss the part where they showed they have the same power? The long range is also the middle of the range not base as was the macan until they recently stopped selling the turbo. If this test was done 6months earlier it would be 2 middle of the range models. The GTS is meant to be a sportier version of the macan so it'll always do well on the track again the Y.

[@kdz666]

Because they want the Porsche to win!

[@wingcommanderdaltonwalton67]

@@kdz666 Plato will never give anything a chance against Porsche

[@joekim4345]

@@gaycha6589 you must not have something called google or internet. in America Tesla model Y PERFORMANCE now costs almost $25,000 less than the Macan GTS , even less if GTS is optioned up like it's normally done.

[@jerod5211]

You really should have tested a Y performance against the GTS for more of an apples to apples comparison. That, or test this Y against the base Macan or Macan S Cue all the calls about bias and unfair testing in. 3.... 2..... 1......

[@steffydog]

Fascinating, thanks

[@jakefrederics2724]

So top spec Macan vd Mid spec (Family Spec) LR Model Y?

[@QALibrary]

one thing that will kill the Telsa is the tiers - you reduce range but sports tires will make it a lot better around the track

[@981_pdk3]

And so will the Corsa tyres of the GTS track pack not to mention PTV as well

[@rayjones323]

Should compare against a MY P not a LR

[@jboomhauer]

You need track mode!

[@stephane5445]

Nice watch 😊

[@Anthonysk9]

Why didn’t we use a Performance Y?!?! I don’t get it.

[@osunick]

Non AB Model Y LRs have at most 415 HP, not 440, and it is much cheaper than the GTS which is the top of the range. Redo this with an MYP and see how it does. Also the based MY (again, what is tested here) has Continental all seasons and not Latitude LS3 or whatever higher performance tires they ship with on the GTS.

[@Johnnytotal]

Will the electric Macan then be as slow as the Tesla?

[@joejesus9902]

Funny how they had to pit a top of the line macan against the base Model Y.

[@martinkolton2437]

Should compare Model Y performance with the Macan GTS , this is not a fair comparison

[@Aa-ji2yf]

Lol why are you not comparing the performance model Y.

[@MrWhitywhiteman]

comparing Model Y Long Range with top of the line GTS? Maybe take a MY Performance. Comparison otherwise do not hold up, does it?

[@lplt]

damn, didnt even put the acc boost option to make the price slightly closer

[@gamexx314]

Wow nice view

[@SergLit]

thanks you

[@bare365]

I’m no Tesla fan boy by any means but the Porsha is turbocharged and the Model Y which isn’t the performance Model Y. Regardless the Porsche has higher top end speed than the Model Y. A fairer comparison would have included a 0 to 60 with the Porsche GTS vs the performance Model Y.

[@trance9158]

The GTS would eat it up. Why not just compare ev to ev. Porsche still wins.

[@igortchelzoff3736]

GTS isn't the fastest trim for Macan either.

[@jameswillard1]

@@igortchelzoff3736 it is now, Turbo has been discontinued and now GTS uses the 2.9L and is considered top of the line

[@chrisdemetri8877]

Love the panerai

[@G-Cam1]

Model Y is £52k as of today... £13k less than the Porsche!

[@ASR806]

you should compare the Macan GTS with a model Y Performance and not with a Long Range version

[@condor9992]

Loving paneri watch

[@H4rleyBoy]

The question is this though, how would either fair if you were able to set them up how you wanted rather than being limited to them as is.

[@RizwanKhan-mf7be]

You can watch the Carwow drag race video with Model Y and Macan GTs, you would know the power of Tesla 😅

[@LLP3360]

GTS vs LR, why not the Performance ??

[@manunair9266]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/pn63ao1_rduVnbM Here’s another comparison video which might be a good watch

[@akaktm]

Why not use the Model Y performance? I expect it would have matched the Porsche better in every way. If you wanted to compare with the base Model Y it would have been better to compare with the base Macan.

[@SatoshiCommentorto]

"I want to be in control of when the car pitches" lmao then keep your foot down genius

[@aurelienvincent1575]

Oh yeah, how about maintenance cost for the porsche vs the tmy ? Hehe

[@gaycha6589]

or the depreciation costs....

[@G-Cam1]

@@gaycha6589 Or the fuel costs...

[@gaycha6589]

@@G-Cam1 no one spending £65k gives a toss about fuel costs.

[@user-su6gn1cm9u]

Which one is going to loose more in lets say 4 years

[@G-Cam1]

@@user-su6gn1cm9u The Porsche I guess as it will be 2027 .. 3 years before the ICE ban.. you will be as popular as a smoker in a pub.. Younger folks dont want to burn stuff anymore.

[@Mark__A]

Wow, tesla fan bois calm down, this is the GTS Macan not the Turbo or Turbo S, not top of the range (not even available now). Also seconds are not everything. The Porsche feels soo much better to drive, to sit in, gives you so much joy and engagement what the tesla can NOT.

[@TheTerrier]

Nice Panerai

[@Cloxxki]

Model Y is barely heavier than Macan. How much is the difference on the werigh bridge, if any, when the Macan is on a full tank?

[@Clarkbait]

What do you consider barely? I'd give you a few hundred pounds. 1100lbs difference is quite a bit. The number isn't as big of deal with the teslas lower center of gravity. For me it's the pseudo prius tires that come stock on the tesla and the fact it's almost $20k cheaper. Hands down would take the macans suspension over the performance model y. (Edit below)

[@callumcurtis15]

@@Clarkbait Did you miss hear the weights or something because the Tesla was 1979Kg(4362Lbs) and the Porsche weighs 1970Kg(4343Lbs) according to google .

[@Cloxxki]

@@Clarkbait See the actual video, genius :)

[@yoda-1551]

Its cool to see the "fastest" Macan vs the not fastest Model Y lol Should have been the Performance... ohh yer internet fighter

[@khinememekyaw9471]

Matter fact slowest Tesla 🙄

[@skodbolle]

Why didn't you use the Model Y Performance?? This is not a fair comparison at all??

[@osunick]

Counterpoint- I am impressed an MYLR got so close on all season ContiProContact tires. I want another shootout with an MYLR with performance tires (keep the size if you want, PS4 (no S int his size and load rating) or PZ4) and AB on. Do another one with the P if you want but I suspect it would annihilate the GTS. Having the base LR on even rubber would be a real eye opener and plays to the strengths of the Tesla, which behaves much more like a mid engine car due to centralization of mass, vs the Macan which still hangs the engine ahead of the axle like the Audi it's based on.

[@Jeddin]

Or.. they could just bring a Model Y Performance which has the tires, suspension, brakes, motors, and track mode to actually compete on track instead of being designed for bringing the kids to school like the Model Y LR is

[@osunick]

@@Jeddin boring. We know the MYP would annihilate the macan. There is very little mechanical difference between an LR and P, esp now that the rotors and real calipers are the same. It's more amusing to see the everyday car beat the top trim Porsche. Also, if you read the whole comment I said to test the P as well.

[@981_pdk3]

Don’t think so the GTS has a track pack with the latest Corsa tyres and PTV victory to the Macan easily

[@Pedro_Pinto_Oliveira]

2023 > In Portugal the "low-cost" Macan is 89.481€ the GTS version is 134.227€ all without any extra. The Model Y LR is 54.490€ and the Model Y Performance is 59.990€. Is it normal this difference? 😮

[@gambler159]

In Greece the Macan GTS is 143.000 without extras

[@amalfi460]

Should be model y performance vs Porsche

[@igortchelzoff3736]

Model Y performance should be against Macan Turbo, not GTS.

[@ACKWV]

Beko dishwasher vs Porsche Macan GTS.

[@bbpleg]

In Norway the macan is about 3x the Price of the Tesla 😂

[@stjerneskruetraekker]

In Denmark it's 5x :D :D

[@gaycha6589]

That's because Norway is rich

[@gaycha6589]

DK has Hygge to compensate

[@stjerneskruetraekker]

@@gaycha6589 and cheap beer! :D

[@Tetrapetaloudos1]

The MY perfomance would have been closer in money and probably beat the Macan on track

[@RandyRodgirth]

Strange to compare these 2 on track, where neither will be used and the outcome was obvious. Maybe compare them at what they were actually designed to do?

[@mcplutt]

You don't like tracks?

[@RandyRodgirth]

@@mcplutt Strange conclusion you’ve reached. Family SUV’s aren’t designed for the track was my point, so it would be better to compare them for their intended purpose, thought that was obvious.

[@happyatheists9361]

Ice age is over its summer time,so put solar on u roof

[@coldos]

As if Fifth Gear would let Tesla beat Porsche, they have a relationship to maintain. So to be safe they’ve used a Model Y Long Range, not a Performance. The Performance has more power, lower suspension, bigger brakes and a track mode AND is cheaper than the Macan. Pretty obvious what outcome they wanted here.

[@matthewwiemken7293]

hmmm.. top spec Macan GTS vs model Y long range? hmm

[@jojolag31]

TMY is not that bad regarding the price and the performance. Just redo with TMY performance.

[@chapacubraelderscrollsonli3491]

I read here people talk about the Macan being more expensive like performance is the only thing you buy. It's more expensive also because parts won't fly away on the highway. You are paying for higher material quality, engineering and experience. Don't compare tesla with Porsche, it's just rediculus...

[@bobimoto28]

Oh my Mr Plato ...thats a nice Panerai 😁

[@heldsmarket124]

I noticed the Panerai right away too and asked when do we get to see a review on it.

[@gaycha6589]

V nice watch

[@mhsohel47]

Bias, use Model Y performance with track mode thats a fair comparison with price and performance.

[@Adamlllllllllllljjjljljjjjj]

Yess. Keep up these videos!!

[@jasondong9721]

Why compare them?

[@andreasalexandersson9732]

Wierd as many say why not compare with a MYP that's less pricey today. And the regen is something you can choose but needs 3de option. S3xy buttons

[@happysporran]

Next week we'll be track racing a single decker bus against a fire engine...what's the point?

[@flatt585]

Should have used the model Y performance in Track mode. But I am sure those results would have went against their narrative, so they chose the long range Tesla instead

[@1001speedster]

Not at all, both cars have the same power and similar weight, if you're gonna be objective then at least keep the performance attributes the same!

[@BarryMakariou]

Car Wow did this test with the over air Tesla upgrade £1,500 it beat the new GTS

[@minimustang2197]

Macan engine is 2.9L, not 3.0

[@MEngNeno]

Should be to model y y performance… performance vs performance model..

[@wolkengamer2000]

52990 is the LR Tesla.

[@nurnberg1561]

One of the channels that has not made sense for a long time

[@legostud]

You can easily tell the drivers who like automatic transmissions, they always complain about the hard regen in a Tesla. If you drive a stick shift, the regen is the same as engine braking from a large engine. I could chirp the tires on my 4.0L Wrangler and 5.0L Mustang by stepping off the gas too quickly.

[@gaycha6589]

JP is a racing driver

[@dominickbrookes5103]

Model y performance would have been closer, still lose but closer.

[@RPMATX]

Now drive them across the USA

[@mr2dsp]

dont use the regular Y use the Model Y Performance

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[@wisewords007]

Surely in full and not if full?😄 I had to reread it to spot it

[@rajasekharvaddi62]

These links are used by some scammer to cheat people

[@dyhppyx]

You brought the wrong Tesla y

[@sashapoleshuk1020]

Racing an electric car is like having sex with earplugs

[@TundeEszlari]

Wonderful video.

[@RizwanKhan-mf7be]

Bias comparison MY Performance is the match for Macan GTS , Nevertheless you have an option to release Re-Gen breaking option which stops self breaking, Macan can would not match even the MYLR,

[@thomasheuer1916]

Every lap the gap would be even more stupid.

[@mcplutt]

How stupid

[@AlAl-tp9iq]

But why put a Porsche GTS against a Tesla y long range and not the model y performance which is more like for like. You can turn off the regen and split the power in the model y performance in track mode!

[@repCanada]

You can turn regenerative braking off in the menus

[@gannetripple]

What garbage about regen braking in the Tesla. Just turn it off! To quote the manual: Regenerative braking decelerates Model 3 whenever you release the accelerator pedal when driving. You can choose what you want Model 3 to do once the driving speed has been reduced to a very low speed (almost at a stop) and both the accelerator pedal and brake pedal are released. While in Park, touch Controls > Pedals & Steering > Stopping Mode and choose from these options: Roll: When close to, or at, a complete stop, Model 3 becomes free rolling like a vehicle in Neutral. Therefore, if stopped on a slope, Model 3 will roll downward. The brake does not engage, and the motor does not apply torque (until the accelerator pedal is pressed).

[@raydoherty5419]

Pretty sure the Y performance beats that Macan and is still cheaper. Please compare the right cars!

[@jonesy-rh5fk]

Slightly mismatched. Seen as you can’t get a Performance Y here yet, Maybe a Macan S would be a fairer comparison. Even so, would still have the Macan any day.

[@yingnyang2889]

You won’t want the maintenance costs that’s for sure. I’d cringe everytime I went to the dealer, my Cayenne was $2000-$2500 per visit

[@SinhVTruong]

Agreed. I love the macan but they should have compared it to the Y performance. This was a dumb comparison rigged to favor the Porsche.

[@davidgadonneix7415]

#FakeNews … You are using a Model Y Long Range. Not a Model Y Performance. Not nearly a fair comparison. Even with Acceleration Boost the Long Range model is not the same as Performance.