Test her: how to screen women

[@psychacks]

While women have long ago realized the importance of vetting men, most men do not intentionally screen women before entering into sexual relationships with them. This is largely due to poor optionality, which is just happy to be given an opportunity at all. Unfortunately, this significantly increases the likelihood that men will become involved with difficult, damaged, or dangerous women over a long enough timeline. In this episode, I discuss the importance of screening women and provide one concrete way to do this. Don't be afraid to test her. Join my community: the-captains-quarters.mn.co Buy my book, "The Value of Others" Ebook: amzn.to/460uGrA Audiobook: amzn.to/3YfFwbx Paperback: amzn.to/3xQuIFK Book a paid consultation: oriontarabanpsyd.com/consultations Subscribe to my newsletter: oriontarabanpsyd.com Social Media TikTok: www.tiktok.com/@oriontaraban Facebook: facebook.com/profile.php?id=100090053889622 LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/orion-taraban-070b45168/ Instagram: instagram.com/psyc.hacks Twitter: twitter.com/oriontaraban Website: oriontarabanpsyd.com Orion's Theme: kzbin.info/www/bejne/jaO7c62HZ613e7M Thinking of going to grad school? Check out STELLAR, my top-rated GRE self-study program based on the world's only empirically-validated test prep system. Use the code "PSYCH" for 10% off all membership plans: stellargre.com. Become a Stellar affiliate and earn a 10% commission for every membership purchased by a new student you conduct into the program: stellargre.tapfiliate.com. GRE Bites: www.youtube.com/@grebites4993 Become a Psychonaut and join PsycHack's member community: kzbin.info/door/SduXBjCHkLoo_y9ss2xzXwjoin Sound mixing/editing by: valntinomusic.com Presented by Orion Taraban, Psy.D. PsycHacks provides viewers with a brief, thought-provoking video several days a week on a variety of psychological topics, inspired by his clinical practice. The intention is for the core idea contained within each video to inspire viewers to see something about themselves or their world in a slightly different light. The ultimate mission of the channel is to reduce the amount of unnecessary suffering in the world. #psychology #dating #women

[@mickeygoogle7545]

we need MORE TESTS please!!!

[@cosmictreason2242]

I do test, that's why i don't even approach, because they fail before we can even start something.

[@laylasmart]

I already hacked the western minded women and it all comes down to a single word. Femin@zi

[@TheTrueTrinity888]

Happily married yet doc?

[@marcusmcgraw3519]

@@psychacks why would women have more options automatically? That doesn’t make any sense

[@JR41N3]

Most of the guys complaining this won't work for average men don't understand that it's better by far to be alone than to be with a contentious woman.

[@zergslayer69]

Sadly it seems the average guy is so desperate for companionship that they haven't learned to be happy with their own company yet

[@deadtreebark]

Unfortunately many people aren't comfortable being alone and will continue the cycles

[@standardofexcellence]

​@deadtreebark if they are weak they ain't gonna understand this anyways

[@marcusmcgraw3519]

@@zergslayer69maybe if men didn’t tear each other down to try to attract women out of it, they would have more success. Did you ever consider that you’re the problem?

[@gregornu]

​@@marcusmcgraw3519Men don't tear each other down. Feminism does.

[@ICFUBAR]

"When someone shows you who they are believe them the first time."

[@elisabetta4571]

Maya Angelou? I think. I've always felt it's a great quote!

[@ironmonkey1512]

This happens all the time.. both men and women project what they want on someone and then say they were tricked when it doesn't work out.

[@ICFUBAR]

@@elisabetta4571 you'd be correct on Angelou

[@YesNo-qb9vl]

Nope. Youre cynical

[@Marking_The_Way]

Great quote!

[@balkh2769]

It explains things most guys don’t think about. I also learned a lot from reading a book called Celestial Soulmate by Lentlish. The book helped me understand women better and feel more confident. Combining tips from videos like this and the book really made a difference for me.

[@astralisodyssey-i9n]

I've got the book now, and I really like what I've read so far. Thanks for recommending it!

[@DigitalHierophant]

Real world example: asked woman from dating app to sunday brunch. woman tells me her sleep has been "twisted lately", asked if i would go with the flow on scheduling which i agreed to. She texts me on sunday at 1030am, but I was in the middle of preparing for my work week and I don't know this woman from a can of paint. I suggested 3pm at a nearby brunch place, and offered a more expensive place as an alternative. She said "let's do dinner (at the more expensive place) because 'she was hungry now'. I told her (the test) I would like to take her to that place for dinner later that week to get to know her, but Sunday dinner was too last minute and messed up my routine in preparing for the week. Never heard from her again. If she was really wanting to build a connection or get to know me, she would have agreed to me taking (and paying for both of ours) dinner later in the week, but this was clearly "a bomb" that keeps a stack of men with low boundaries to take her out for meals whenever shes in the mood. No judgement on my part, but not a woman i would disturb my peace and routine for.

[@YS-pt5qr]

I don't agree with your conclusion. She probably just felt played like you moved her through your week like a domino on a mat. As if it was not important for you to see her.

[@Marking_The_Way]

I would say the fact she wasn't willing to commit to an exact time wasn't a good sign. Also, being on a dating app puts you at a disadvantage as well. Granted, I know how it can be challenging to meet women these days.

[@DigitalHierophant]

@@YS-pt5qr we both subconsciously know i'm paying for the date, and she wanted me to be flexible on time since her sleep schedule was "twisted lately". I happen to run several projects/businesses, it just so happened when she reached out to me i was scheuduling emails/projects for the week. she couldn't be bothered to go to the expensive restaurant in a time i was free "because she was hungry now". We all know and expect the man to pay for the date, I'm supposed to drop all of my responsibilities to "feed" this stranger i don't know? it wasn't me manipulating, it was a genuine test of her interest and she failed. if you can't see that, i'm afraid you may be perceiving life through a level of delusion.

[@DigitalHierophant]

@@Marking_The_Way I don't disagree with you, but I already dedicated the summer (June - August roughly) entertaining women I met in real life at nice restaurants and lounges, as well as dating apps. I agree that her not being able to commit to an exact time was already an "orange flag" but i like to give humans the benefit of the doubt. When she couldn't accept what was essentially a free dinner and drinks because it wasn't exactly when she wanted it... that* was my confirmation of what she was really about. Dating apps aren't all bad, I went out with a woman this past week who was able to agree on a hard time and we had a great dinner and drinks together. We're still talking now, but again, i'm never going to allow someone's opinions or flippant nature to alter my responsibilities and goals. cheers.

[@Marking_The_Way]

@@DigitalHierophant Nice dude! I'm rooting for you to do well out there 😀🙌 I personally don't do well on dating apps, but I found the dance scene (partner dancing) to be the best solution. (So many reasons why, I even made a video about it 😆)

[@janidani1]

Dr. Taraban, I noticed that, leveraging your acting skills, you have been ramping up the entertaining element of your content. Let me tell you, that it works! It has never been so entertaining to learn the cold hard truths of dating and the necessary skills. You are doing great, keep it up!

[@Marking_The_Way]

It's so great to see him grow!

[@elainer8288]

@@janidani1 He was an actor before being a psychologist.

[@BrieBrie-hf9nb]

@@Marking_The_Way wow lol 🤢🤮

[@JimBillyRayBob]

Another indispensable test is to say no to a request, with little or no justification, excuses or explaining. Healthy people respect people who have boundaries and respect their boundaries too. If she accepts "no" without drama, she passes. Bonus points If she expresses disappointment and accepts it too. If you get back anything like: - Demands for explanation - Subtle threats that hint you're gonna regret it. - Invitations for you to feel guilty - Passive aggressive behavior like silent treatment, suddenly becoming uncooperative unavailable - Comparisons to what most men do or "should" do - etc... She's letting you know that she expects you to prioritize her needs over yours, and if she doesn't get her way, there will be hell to pay. Unless that's the kind of relationship you're looking for, say "thank you" and move on.

[@doyoueatrocks]

Thanks for that summary sir

[@sammyb1651]

All straight facts and very well formulated! I have some horrible news though. The woman who is looking for you to "prioritize her needs over yours" is 90% + of the female population. I would say it's anywhere between 90% and 98% in fact. So while the methodology is sound, the odds are abysmal.

[@alberttang6955]

Imagine having to deal with that kind of drama from your spouse every day for the rest of your life. And if that's how a woman acts during dating, when she is incentivized to present the best version of herself, just imagine how bad it could get once you're married to her and the true person comes out.

[@gravitydefyer3722]

That's crazy. I just realized my own mother does these things after reading your comment...

[@baffinsansterre]

Cleaver.

[@dameraphani]

Anyone can fake good behavior but it is difficult to fake bad behavior so mostly good behavior is faked and bad behavior is real. If you can observe; then it would be easier for you to find a right person.

[@VonJay]

very concise and insightful, thank you for this

[@MrColdwilliam]

This is gospel. It's why I say you never know a person until you've seen them: - extremely sick (it's when there is no filter. Will they nicely ask for water or demand you get some?) - extremely angry (this is when the devil inside comes out. Do they talk or do they get violent?) - extremely inebriated (this is when the quiet truth gets loud. What do they think and hold back?) - extremely disappointed (do they become the petulant child? Or do they decide to learn a lesson and progress?) Until these moments I can be close to a person but I don't think I know them.

[@HustleHabit]

That was a bar.

[@gregornu]

That's why women do these sh!t tests to men.

[@seunomole679]

Screenshot tis

[@theLastVulcan57]

I test women like this all the time and it always works, the ones who are really attracted to you will find a way to show it.. fellas never waste your time and effort on a woman who isn’t interested in you, she will make you regret it

[@Marking_The_Way]

Agreed! Men, work on yourself! There's a higher chance she'll be more attracted to you on the 1st date. Worst-case scenario? You levelled up 😃Win/win

[@youcanthandlethetruth5433]

Don't listen to this fork tongue joo normalizing degeneracy. Often times compliant women are compliant to everyone (aka sluts) and good women will refuse because she actually has values and principles. Fork tongue snake Orion doing his bit to destroy proper civilization

[@AulisVaara]

I assume you're not married yet, so how does it work? It doesn't seem to have given you a lasting relationship.

[@Marking_The_Way]

@@AulisVaara I think there needs to be a balance. You don't want to assume that you'll be treated like a king if you haven't leveled yourself up. Likewise, don't just get into a relationship because "it just happened". Be intentional.

[@solracer66]

But when men have so few chances does it really make sense to strive for perfection? As Captain Renault said in Casablanca "How extravagant you are throwing away women like that. Someday they may be scarce."

[@Mrprodromomos]

My uncle married a bomb, she continually fights with him. He has aged terribly and is a shell of his former self. He doesn’t have the backbone to leave her. Don’t make this mistake, better to stay single than be with a horrible woman.

[@Marking_The_Way]

Deep words of wisdom. Be intentional with whom you decide to share your life with 💪

[@hop333]

Amen or sadhu depending on what spirituality you roll with

[@Distinctions]

I needed to see this. My kids mom is this woman. The man she’s going to marry is as golden retriever type. Has no idea what he’s in for.

[@Marking_The_Way]

@@Distinctions Do you think he sees that and it works for him? Or he is going in blind?

[@pD5V0DdsaoVhq]

Came for dating advice, got job interview advice and I'm glad. Cheers Dr. Orion Taraban.

[@Marking_The_Way]

Getting the money and the girls now 😆

[@badderplate2015]

Two birds, one stone😂

[@snowdaniels]

😂

[@TheCycloneTrooper]

@@badderplate2015 Same as 2 girls, 1 cup

[@louisbee7923]

The sad truth is that most men, the majority, have never been with a woman who truly desired them. Most men got into relationships based on pedestaling their woman. That is never the winning strategy.

[@marihutten]

Same for women. Most of my past relationships as a woman I pedestaled the dude. I think both genders need to keep it real.

[@tougeruzbay]

​@@marihutten then saying goes, pick better and do better

[@xxczerxx]

It's optionality though...well, lack thereof. Most adult men would prefer regular sex but that is genuinely hard to pull off if you're not in the absolute upper tier of attractiveness. Thus they put up with all kinds of bullshit and let themselves get corralled into bs relationships

[@Bikini_ST]

Even as the "prize," it's easy to slip into romance.

[@louisbee7923]

@@marihutten You clearly don't understand the experience of the average guy.

[@connormcintosh4983]

I recently had an experience with a bomb. She was a rebound after my last relationship, and we started seeing each other a couple times per week. I got a vibe that she was a little nuts, but she was really attractive and I enjoyed seeing her so I stayed around. One day, I was busy and didn’t text her for a couple hours. She blew up on me and sent me 3 paragraphs about not texting her enough, and compared me to her ‘toxic’ ex boyfriend. I knew then and there there was no potential for a long term relationship.

[@cosmopolitanbay9508]

pump & dump

[@ayoutubecommenter7494]

So you still continued seeing her, but without any relationship idea on the horizon, I'd guess

[@Sonic_Ancap]

Lol ​@@ayoutubecommenter7494

[@Chud-mb7gl]

She doesn't explode on chads.

[@cheekymonkeygirl3378]

@@Chud-mb7gl True. 😢

[@ernestocamposjr.3057]

This was eye opening. You can tell a lot about how someone feels about the job and position when they are in an interview. That is what women do to us, but somehow, we never take time to set up our own criteria and standards. Best episode from my perspective. Thank you Dr. Orion!

[@Marking_The_Way]

Deeppp! Right, we're trying to show all of our strengths and what we have to offer. How often do we make sure SHE is qualified and a good fit? Something to think about 🤔

[@Keepskatin]

Well, not with me, they wish they never hired me,but they cant find a valid reason to getbrid of me,plus I do specialty work that they need. They dislike my character, I rarely speak and uae earlhones because its noisy all day. Anyway, I keep them puzzled with my nonchalant lifestyle.

[@CruzWithMe]

Yup 👍

[@Bot28111]

We need more screening videos!

[@LawrenceCheok]

I second that.

[@luminyam6145]

Yes please!

[@qc7767]

Out of respect and courtesy I told a woman ahead of our first date that we are going to a nice restaurant so she may want to dress up a little (I also knew she was coming out of yoga class shortly before so I wanted her to have a heads up). She returned with a “I don’t appreciate being told what to wear.” Should have known that relationship was going to be a shit show

[@deadlee0b1]

And if you didn't tell her, she would have been mad that you didn't tell her it was a nice restaurant and she needed to dress nice.

[@VideoAssociates]

Wow clever testing

[@LSUTigerbait]

Yeah it’s female nature… damned if you do, damned if you don’t…

[@wallyg7683]

Yeah red flag 10000%, unless of course you like being told what to do /what to wear Lol. D.Deida talks abt this in Way Of The Superior Man

[@tooelenative9098]

@@qc7767 Telling her she is being taken to an especially nice restaurant should have been all she needed to hear. Telling her that means she should dress a certain way was an insult to her intelligence. Seeing how she chooses to dress when she knows it’s a special place could have been a test of her taste and manners. I could have seen your suggestion as helpful if it was said in the right way, but I could also think you don’t trust my judgement and assume you are the kind of guy who can make me feel belittled by advising me all the time about decisions that are my own to make.

[@Madeyalookoops]

As a woman, I’m perfectly fine taking selfies or even live pictures/videos if requested-I’m happy to provide that. If we’re dating exclusively, I’d gladly share PG/PG-13 pictures. However, I’ve never taken nude photos. Whenever asked, I simply reply, ‘It’s better in person 😉.’ To me, intimacy feels more meaningful in person than through a screen. I’d hope that’s not considered a bomb behavior; it’s just my personal preference.

[@nchambers007]

He never suggested or implied that a pic should be rated X (or G).

[@gregoryjanczak7013]

Thank you for your comments. This makes me feel more comfortable in asking a woman for pics since, coming from a woman, you have stated it is not a big deal IF a woman is interested in the guy.

[@sportgoofy1975]

Honey , thats not bomb behavior. Thats quality.

[@earlocampo]

💣

[@kirstenbrogan5958]

Should men reciprocate and send a pic, that's a test for them.

[@chrismoore9997]

I asked my wife (before, when we were only talking) for photos and she didn't blow up at me. She also didn't initially send me photos, but she did keep talking to me and eventually she sent some photos that could be shared on Facebook, never nudes, and we are still happily married 16 years later. In all those years, we have had only 2 or 3 arguments and none of them were high intensity.

[@Georg93]

Wow. That inspired some hope in me!

[@chrisjacobking]

Another delusional man oi news flash you’re the wife and she’s your husband, I bet she wasn’t a virgin when you met her and you weren’t her first choice, she doesn’t find you attractive either and I think you already knew this but you keep lying to yourself that’s why you had to write this comment looking for men who are just as stupid as you to confront you.

[@julie-anntownley-rivett5173]

agree this pics issue for me is a big deal most men in my experience want explicit photos thats not something I do ever. I would think they would have a clear idea from the onset from my general behaviour of the answer but maybe my fault not spelling it out from the onset. To me its a private thing shared between two people not to be used/shared (potentially) outside of a committed relationship so I would answer no and move on. I would personally feel disrespected if asked for that type of photo from a man I thought was honourable. i find it disappointing but thats just me what do men think?

[@Georg93]

@@julie-anntownley-rivett5173 Isn't he talking about normal pictures? Not nudes.

[@jellybuttersandwitch]

@@julie-anntownley-rivett5173 although it is nice to receive a nude from a girl I’m dating, I don’t view anyone who DOESN’T send nudes as less than. Getting nudes is like a bonus prize. If anything, I view the woman as more respectable when they refuse to send nudes.

[@theguy57546]

I would pay money to see Dr. Orion on a date.

[@Hunter-ox6kh]

Yea hahaha

[@marcusmcgraw3519]

@@theguy57546 I would too, because I don’t think it would go that well. I think he thinks too much of himself, which would be ok if his substance wasn’t just pandering to desperate men

[@mr.l6074]

Like the saying goes everyone's got a plan till they get punched in the face

[@peripheralparadox4218]

I think he’s heterosexual.

[@ayoutubecommenter7494]

I can imagine most of them are either short and end up on a no, but those which qualify are passionate. Exactly how I'd do

[@melaniereilly3407]

So good. It is so entertaining how much You understand the psyche of women. Even as a woman watching your videos, it is very helpful. I inherently know some of these things already, but to hear it from you, explaining it to men for the purpose of helping them navigate through dating, it shows me a different perspective, the man’s perspective. If women care at all about finding a good man and keeping him, they should watch your videos. Unfortunately, a lot of them would probably take offense to what you say 😅 which is why this particular video is important for men to watch. I think another thing to be aware of is how a woman communicates after she blows up. It is possible she is actively working on herself and is motivated to learning and evolving. If she is not even willing to be accountable then move on, fast. But if she is, then maybe it is worth giving it time, if everything else about her is worth it.

[@keithsmith5310]

Good point. Rare occurrence, but good point.

[@melaniereilly3407]

@ I agree, you will be lucky to find it :)

[@Bikini_ST]

Unfortunately, most people don't change they mask. If a person is selfish. They will remain. You might be able to massage some out, but it's just about self. Mr. Dr. Prof. Orion stated it perfectly pick a couple key things that you "need" and accept the rest, good and bad. I'll try and find a link

[@rossnielsen6820]

Nicely written. I appreciate your opinion. Thank you for sharing this. I think this was generous of you. I think you would be a great find for a man.

[@autarko]

That would be like buying a car with a broken gearbox and no repair manual.

[@Lakshay.Vermaa]

I love how he never forgets to add humor to his videos. There are some cold hard truths he tells us and tries to make it sound less discouraging by adding humor, a way to make us know not to get hung up on one particular 'employee'. Thank you Dr. Orion.

[@jamespeters920]

I saw the throwing things, temper tantrums and the threats. Here's another one: if she has kids from another relationship that don't want anything to do with her, run. Believe me, i found out the hard way.

[@shun2240]

Single moms are a huge red flag, no matter how good of a package she is, RUN!

[@ericmcdonald7313]

Amen brother me too

[@Native_English_Guru]

If she has kids from another relationship she already failed the test. No single moms

[@MM-ev1fg]

The problem could’ve been the guy so it’s tough to blanket that one.

[@wuy4]

@@MM-ev1fg No, single moms always represent failure of judgement. She chooses her own happiness over that of her children, and she chose to have a child with a bad man. Regardless, no man wants to be pre-cucked raising another man's seed.

[@KJThePublicist]

This reminds of Docs age old advice from an old video.... be slow to hire and quick to fire....

[@zaq1337]

Vet Vet Vet, long engagement if you plan to get married….

[@Chud-mb7gl]

Yeah just wait and waste a chunk of your life bro LoL

[@Flokoli1]

​@@Chud-mb7gl You'll lose far more if you quickly settle for the wrong one, be sure of that

[@youcanthandlethetruth5433]

Don't listen to this fork tongue joo normalizing degeneracy. Often times compliant women are compliant to everyone (aka sluts) and good women will refuse because she actually has values and principles. Fork tongue snake Orion doing his bit to destroy proper civilization

[@harmz1503]

@@Chud-mb7glYea, just rush into it and lose your mental health instead 😂

[@carlosortegaart]

I just reviewed the value of others on amazon and gave it 5 stars - what a dynamite of a book

[@atanasbakalov]

The book exceeded my expectations too. By far. It irreversibly changed my perspective on mating and dating, and I only wish I could've been exposed to Orion's work a decade ago.

[@mkf628]

u both bots?

[@ants.7277]

I’m about 1/3 thru the book and it’s been great. Couldn’t recommend it more.

[@atanasbakalov]

@@mkf628no. are you?

[@carlosortegaart]

Ya got me 🤖​@@mkf628

[@prestigepianostudies4148]

Easily in my top 5 Doc, this one spoke to me for sure!

[@vintagesteel]

Same here last girl I dated back in August was a "bomb". It was like walking on eggshells around her. Every little thing I did she'd get pissy with me. I don't think these tests would've worked with her tho because she lied to me the first week we dated - told me she was a Republican instead of a Democrat, seemed really patient and chill at first all for her to do a complete 180 on me by the second week of dating.

[@johnbetancourt8691]

I disagree with the request for pics, but I get the point. There should be some ask. It depends on the person's age, etc.

[@janeentumbao8690]

@@johnbetancourt8691 I kinda think that this advice is for younger folks too. The way older, 45+ date is a little different than under 40. Young folk love taking selfies. Older people are too busy working or doing stuff to be taking pics all the time. And older people don't have time to mess around and play games. It's either you're interested or not.

[@sa.sa3917]

Yeah, I agree! It’s a request that can be misinterpreted. No man has ever asked me for photos and I confess that I would find it a little strange if that happened. I agree that both men and women should test the target of interest before finding themselves trapped, but I imagine that perhaps there are other ways to do this.

[@FandomMenaceIntermediate]

@sayuri3917 But see here is the problem asking for a picture is seen as weird. Overseas women are flattered western women are taken aback lol

[@sa.sa3917]

@ Well, I don't live in the USA and here in my country we have many types of online scams. Most of us prefer to have private social media and I only accept access from those I know. I wouldn't exchange photos with someone I barely know. Furthermore, I don't particularly have the habit of taking selfies and photos all the time. This is my opinion considering the reality in which I live. But if this is something important to you, I have nothing against it. Only you know what is best for you. It's a personal matter.

[@chembrad]

​@@sa.sa3917Yet if a highly attractive man asked you for just about anything, then you would jump on it

[@Nordic_Sky]

Far too many guys ignore red flags because they believe their current woman is the best they can get.

[@VaronPlateando]

‚… that they could get, for that turn hitherto.‘

[@squarecracker]

any woman is the best i can get

[@VaronPlateando]

@@squarecracker that approach won't get you anywhere actually worthwhile exploring, I'd guess. respect yourself and stop selling short. there is always the option to avoid | ignore | reject the abundance of incarnates of detriment.

[@squarecracker]

@@VaronPlateando wow neat but that's not going to make interested women materialize out of thin air

[@marcusmcgraw3519]

@@VaronPlateando exactly. Do men realize when they say “we’re not asking for much, why won’t you cooperate at all?”, they’re showing they have no standards. Why would they be respected as a result of it? This guy proved himself unworthy with that one

[@Algorerhythm]

I like how Orion is consistent in offering explanations for his use of air quotes and other speaking devices. It leaves the viewer feeling respected for their time and attention.

[@thomashume6497]

As a member of the male species this was one of your best episodes, thank you.

[@katannyadirkson6147]

Males & females are *the same* species. You are a member of the males OF the species.

[@BrieBrie-hf9nb]

The male species. Alrighty! I think that about sums up this whole fan base and the desire in being helped by others of the same species wink wink nudge nudge congrats on being understood

[@Squidwardsangryface]

As a woman myself. The picture test may backfire, because I don't send pictures of myself to people who aren't close to me. I don't post pictures of myself on social media. I'm a very private person and guys who ask me for pictures (who aren't family or BF) make me slightly uncomfortable or extremely uncomfortable if they persist. It's not an automatic turn off, but I'd politely say no. I understand that nowadays people take pictures of themselves like nothing and share it like nothing, so I don't get made when a guy asks me for one.

[@Rld764]

That's what a catfish would say

[@Squidwardsangryface]

@ actually, no. This is only a concern for people who do online dating. I don’t do that, so a guy who asks me on a date would already know what I look like.

[@angmori172]

DISCLAIMER: First you have to get to the point where you have an abundance mindset! It took me a few years of gruelling experiences and improving myself to go from simp-set to ab-set. While the principles of the video are valid on their own merit, in practice they're probably not going to be very applicable for those average men mentioned in the beginning. You probably need to deeply, emotionally either be completely fine on your own, or know that you realistically have options first. It's an unfortunate case of those needing this skill the most, being the least likely to be able use it.

[@EE12CSVT]

When 99.9% of women to meet are entitled control freaks, it's impossible to have an abundance mindset. There just aren't the decent women to meet for me and my bachelor friends to date. I have boundaries and don't simp, as do my friends. That rules us out from dating.

[@elpakotheglorious]

Absolutely. The "abundance mindset" video was what hooked me to Orion's channel in the first place. This has affected my life beneficially in more ways than just considering the dating market.

[@angmori172]

@@elpakotheglorious fuck yes! My view on work, friendships, everything has fundamentally altered by truly emotionally understanding that principle

[@m.dennis]

Well said. Fantastic advice, though.

[@Francisco-kx5rb]

I disagree with the pic advice. Prior the first date she might not necessarly be invested. Thats a bit the idea of the first date. I would recomend to lower the stakes rather than raising them before the first date.

[@KeyaCares]

Thank you for making sense. I was listening to doc and thought “yea..ladies aren’t going to give a dude pics before the first date. It comes off as super creepy. These guys are going to be so mad when they learn that this doesn’t work in real life”

[@melanieo414]

@@KeyaCares I would totally avoid guy asking that

[@lanceroparaca1413]

​@@melanieo414I totally avoid girls who can't do such an easy task.

[@twsd]

@@KeyaCares as a man the first thing that came to mind was I do want a girl who would give pics to a guy she doesn’t really know. Also anticipated that most women would be turned off at such a request. I’m sure a lot of guys would have the same reaction.

[@kjr8660]

He's talking from a standpoint of a "high value man" like himself. And men like this expect a woman to act as a professional escort if she wants to "get a job". This won't work for most people.😆

[@joedoe2407]

most women would fail most tests

That's the point. You shouldn't be with most women

[@patriciasiarra1032]

Most likely !!

[@niczvr]

@@joedoe2407 Good!

[@georgemubanga1878]

Remember you don't need most women, you just need one who passes

[@tnix80]

They're going to need to really impress bc I prefer to be alone

[@bogactwo.kulturowe]

That is the best episode you have had in a couple of months, Doctor. A true banger, no doubt about it!

[@Marking_The_Way]

🔥🔥🔥 (Note: I would say the example provided could have been better, but the concept was good)

[@CJAndrew-n7w]

Wait, wait. This is an epic video. 💯 I just carried out this exact bomb test scenario a week ago!!! She responded explosively. I thanked her and walked away. I wasnt sure if i had done the right thing, but i value my peace of mind even if it means living with my mistakes ...but to watch the good Dr outline my exact scenario....duuuude. how uncanny!!! How completely serendipitous!!! Amen brother Dr....preach on.. I just want to verify that every aspect of this video is 100% accurate....correct. And his advice here is applicable in real life!!!!!!! 👍

[@nammi895]

You saved yourself nroo

[@Kritikanbringer]

We are no special snowflakes. We are dirt, or star dust if you prefer that term.

[@CJAndrew-n7w]

@@nammi895 yessss! I realize now that I saved myself!

[@rayg.2431]

@@CJAndrew-n7w What was the test? Hopefully it wasn't anything that a normal person would find unreasonable.

[@atanasbakalov]

Congratulations! 👏

[@immortaljanus]

I did that once. Got a nice pic of her decorating the Christmas tree and yes, she was wearing clothes.

[@Marking_The_Way]

What happened with you and her?

[@rayg.2431]

That actually sounds like a really cool picture - hopefully it turned out well for both of you.

[@immortaljanus]

@@Marking_The_Way I wish that story had a happy ending but nope, she lost interest some afterwards.

[@Marking_The_Way]

@@immortaljanus Happens dude. If you got that far, it'll happen again 😀🙌

[@thinman8621]

In contracting one learns that one does not get what one expects; one gets what one measures. Measure the interest and "temperament" before getting involved makes very good sense. Thanks!

[@Marking_The_Way]

Agreed!

[@petervanhoorn6199]

I made the mistake of not doing this 6 years ago. I ended up in a "relationship" where I was indeed walking on eggshells the entire time and constantly explaining and defending myself. In the end, she became physically violent. So guys: apply these techniques explained in this video. I will save you A LOT of time, effort, frustration, head aches, anger and what not.

[@Marking_The_Way]

Man, sorry to hear that 😢Things they don't teach us at school.

[@ianwynne764]

Hello Orion: I think suggesting coffee for. a first date would be a very effective test. If she says something along the lines of "I don't do coffee dates." Then there is your controlled explosion. Have a good day.

[@ianwynne764]

@@dhavamaneeganesh2147 No I don't.

[@skellyton3]

I took my girlfriend to Taco Bell on one of our early dates. Mostly because I liked Taco Bell and figured if she was too good for it then things were not going to work. She was perfectly happy with it and we are still together 5 years later. There are of course many other factors for us staying together, but this was one point things could have ended early on.

[@ianwynne764]

@@skellyton3 Thank you. I hope you will together for many years to come.

[@LisaCulton]

A girl has to have some standards.

[@skellyton3]

@LisaCulton If your standards are based on the price of the date, you are the whole point of doing this kind of test. I would have happily weeded you out and found something better.

[@donlamourchimhanda8214]

I find that calling at a random time when she is most likely to be free to be a good test as well. If she explodes about how a request should have been made first or lays heavy boundaries... she is not into you. However, if she picks up or calls back after a missed call that's a green flag.

[@knowledgeispower200]

This is as brilliant as always. My ex was a ticking time bomb, ready to explode over the most ridiculous things: -A calmly presented question -A pleasant back-and-forth conversation -Talking about the future What stopped her from responding calmly? Nothing, but she still chose to explode every time. Fortunately, I eventually had the courage to break up with her.

[@zenkaitp4644]

She is trash

[@danbeer9403]

Thank you Orion. These nuggets of wisdom are really resonating with me and my small cadre of like minded guy friends. Clear, concise, humorous, actionable.

[@asher9827]

Another banger from Dr. Orion Teraban

[@cabot100]

You should watch the video, there in no mention of sausage.

[@Kritikanbringer]

A truth bomb.

[@Mariecherement]

The all of the men here will be happy to" bang" Dr. Teraban!

[@feelinghealingfrequences7179]

we need a POV video of dr orion on a first date demonstrating his best advice and doing cold approaches

[@kelly_0891]

I like how you started with the job interview, may need to work on a Saturday, then rolled into the relationship interview. Those two have much in common with the give and take that is needed in a workable partner relationship. Sensational delivery, excellent message and spot-on.

[@GreenPasturesFinancl]

Good descriptive term "Bomb". You just clarified a couple of ppl I know. Thank you 🤜🤛.

[@zotw-101]

My ex was difficult and disordered to the extreme. I didn’t know anything about it when I married her - we had kids and hung in there for 18 years. She bottled up all her grievances and at the end, she exploded. It all came out and she was still upset about things that happened 15 years ago. I knew bad stuff happened, but I thought we’d moved on… nope

[@Marking_The_Way]

Oh shoot....that sounds extremely rough. Did you ever have check-ins to help release steam? Like every 3 months be like, "Yoo, is there something I'm doing that is causing us major issues?" and vice-versa?

[@zotw-101]

@ not really… our lack of communication was a major problem. Sometimes when she was upset she'd write a note to me and hide it so I’d eventually find it. We were really good at just hanging out and not dealing with our problems, until we weren’t.

[@rayrwyr]

Women never forget any bad stuff. They forget good stuff though.

[@Marking_The_Way]

@@zotw-101 Ahhh, that makes sense. Great lesson for other guys to hear. Relationships are like cars, gotta maintain them before something breaks down...

[@djsparkyy]

Seems like she was probably a bit too agreeable and you didn't catch on that she was (at least in her mind) putting your needs above hers. Overly agreeable people often become bitter and resentful.

[@geoffjames6181]

Thank you Dr Orion! You can't make this knowledge gold up! Gentlemen, listen to this Man! He is on point!

[@chrismoore9997]

The last time I was talking to a woman with the possibility of dating her, I told her that she had to give me a current photo, because all the ones she had sent up to then were old, or I was not going to talk to her any more. She sent me a mirror selfie, but I could tell that it was retouched, so she was lying about her apearance. She had a blow up about having to do it and then she sent me a lie. This is a good test.

[@andrzej1125]

Dziękujemy. Thank you 🙂

[@sandlerfrancois666]

I love Dr. Taraban. He’s funny and usually right!

[@jessebaseal6577]

Great stuff Orion! I'd be really glad if you do an episode on types of women to avoid (now that you've mentioned the bomb). There's a way you explain and it and it's so clear!

[@idib1739]

I believe He already did in the past. Essentially "no-threatning" women

[@oslonorway547]

All women who're still "finding themselves" and those who've already proven they successfully ruined another man's life. Proceed at your own risk.

[@latinaalma1947]

No highly disagreeable ones for sure= high in neuroticism not difficult to identify it is all me, me, me from them. Imagine a large feed bag overher head and body...still interested ? If not, keep looking.

[@durandus676]

I didn’t “test” my girlfriend. I just stood in place. And she decided to stop with petty stuff and stand with me. I gave opportunity and didn’t throw it at her. She checked to see if I would make it even easier for her, I didn’t. Now I’m her “rock”

[@zeroneutral]

@@durandus676 mUsT bE LoVE

[@rayrautio4011]

The 'test' doesn't have to have words to be effective.

[@markaurelius61]

That's all a bit abstract. Can you tell the story in more detail?

[@zeroneutral]

@@durandus676 Must be love right? 🤓

[@SanjuktaSahoo-cm6uh]

I think he means that had red lines and stood frimly by them didn't take any bs and retaliated whenever the lines were crossed​@markaurelius61

[@milenIV]

you have disordered wemen who send you pics very early if you ask and still explode later. Rule number one - see how she reacts when you disappoint her / disagree with her

[@immortaljanus]

Been there. It was... colorful.

[@shun2240]

Yup ignore her for a few days and see how she reacts

[@milenIV]

@shun2240 Ignoring and playing hard to get can become a toxic game and this one action is not enough in most cases. There are the natural ways that come in life... changing plans, disagreeing on a location, an idea, a thought... anything that shows that you are different and autonomous person that has integrity AKA sticking to your guns no matter what and not trying to mirror and agree just to "please her". Finding if she can be agreeable, understands and accepts differences, is emotionally stable and is not judgmental are some of THE things to vet.

[@shun2240]

@@milenIV its just a test, women test men all the time, why can't a man test her, especially early on in the relationship

[@JosiahMonks]

Yes! That's an important point. A test is only valid if it rubs up against her expectations

[@RyazLegna]

Bought and listened to the audiobook! Excellent work sir, you do the human race a service with your astute observations and high caliber eloquence. Excited for more of your works!

[@FirstLast-cd6vv]

A man of value has no time for childish games.

[@guanxichen4400]

exactly, there are so many better things to do in life than playing mind games. Id rather be genuine with standards and self respect.

[@kaycee5129]

Normally, I agree with the Dr.’s advice but this was a bit out there - unless you are talking about a rich and famous guy (for some women maybe??). I think that PG-rated, fun, recent photos could be a good way to get to know each other’s interests and interest level. Who sends compromising photos to a stranger. However, a bomb test is a good idea for all.

[@Shudderetal]

I agree. I'm incredibly attracted to my husband, but if he asked for nudes before our first date I would have probably called it off. I'm not a prude by any means, but I'm not risking that potential disaster.

[@legalmemories]

I agree - asking for photos before you meet in person is a red flag to many women. And that doesn’t make her “crazy”

[@Sonic_Ancap]

He didnt say nudes. He said pictures.

[@legalmemories]

@@Sonic_Ancap - I don’t think it matters. If we have not met yet why do you need a bunch of pictures of me on your phone? I mean I’m obviously not going to get picked to work for this creepy “employer” and I’m ok with it. lol

[@Shudderetal]

​​@@Sonic_Ancap I thought that until he gave the example of the clever woman saying "normally I don't do this, but you seem trustworthy". I don't worry whether someone is trustworthy if I'm sending them a photo that isn't explicit. The response of "the bomb" seemed to be in a similar vein.

[@Daniel-Deshaun]

i tested a woman earlier this year. i had just gotten out of a horrible breakup and this girl seemed super into me and we were super compatible but then she invited me to a primerica event. i was tryna get my insurance license anyways and it was nice to have someone to study with. then they kept being pushy about recruiting and then the way that the company worked reminded me heavy about how the old girl lovebombed me to get me to act before i got a chance to really think or do any research so i ended up bringing up tge pros and cons of this company and pulled away a bit. she stopped responding to my messages and i ended uo leaving primerica to join a better company. either she just failed the test or she was only tryna use me so shed have a recruit. regardless she failed so onto the next lol

[@jamiebrown4517]

@@Daniel-Deshaun I'm familiar with the company. She was probably just trying to recruit you to the cult.

[@filipesemanas4050]

Honey wake up, it's a new video from Orion Taraban!

[@J31]

Why are these bot comments on every single video minutes after upload?

[@filipesemanas4050]

Because we actually have some sense of humor... 🙃

[@J31]

@@filipesemanas4050 Oh, I see. Forgive me, I am not well-versed in advanced humor. Can you explain how it's funny to post the same attention-seeking variation comment on every video? Please ELI5, as I'm sure you have to be very intelligent to understand this answer

[@xxczerxx]

On second thought ...go back to sleep honey.

[@drivesurfcamp]

😂 so good… hahahaha!

[@martyonthebeach]

I bought your book and I continue to listen you on the channel. Thank you so much to structure these concepts, it help so much.

[@BrieBrie-hf9nb]

Great to hear you're getting to enjoy your relationships with women because of this angry little pseudo psychology BS artist ! At least he's not just feeding your anger and loneliness and attempting to make money off it while you feel lonely yet finally understood from internet garbage.

[@dextermorgan327]

Man ! I gotta say this, "the narration and the writing is suave yet interestingly comic" , my friend 👍🏻

[@Knxwledgist]

This might be one of my favorite videos from this channel. And it came at a good time for me. Just ended things today with a girl I had been on several dates with. Gave her a good amount of my time energy and money only for her to say that she wasn’t ready to have sex with me. Not mad at her, I don’t want it if she doesn’t want it. But based on what I know about her I think she had trust issues from past relationships that she was projecting onto me. In hindsight she gave me so many signs that this is where the interaction was headed. Had I vetted her sexual interest/availability I could have cut bait much sooner. Just gonna charge it to the game and make wiser decisions with the next one.

[@Marking_The_Way]

Boom! Ya, paying the emotional debt from the past relationship isn't a good situation to be in. Good luck sir and glad to hear you're continuously improving!

[@davidbowman2035]

I learnt testing women is about not simping and having sexual self-discipline.

[@standardofexcellence]

Great topic, fellow sigma They have to adhere to our standards as we provide more stuff than just our beings

[@jiraiyasama2837]

I like this advice, you test her level of compliance and according to that we test them to see what kind of women they are. This is brilliant.

[@stevensolof7058]

I would suggest being careful with indirect "Can you work Saturdays?" types of questions. This can lead to unnecessary false-positives and false-negatives. If you're trying to gauge interest, pick something that synergizes interest and specific needs. Using your example, a new hire could easily say in 2 months "i said i could work some saturdays, not put in 15+ hours of overtime every week and commute to the satellite office twice a month"

[@stephena.8193]

If I understood correctly though the point is that there never will be work Saturdays anyway. It's purely a test question.

[@donfabian1542]

If I had a time machine I would send this episode to my brothers a couple of years ago. Maybe they would dodge those bullets who they happend to be married to nowadays 😅. And of course to myself, I haven't been so wise in my choices regarding women in the past as well 😅.

[@gregornu]

This happens to almost every men.

[@brewerfireguy]

I’m a dad to an 6:15 18 year old and a 16 year old. Both boys. I’ve sent this channel to them so that they can get some ideas and real life insights into the shit show out there. It’s stuff like this that I wish existed back when I got married. All I knew of was The 5 Love Languages. That’s seems so ridiculous to me now.

[@lsdlaka]

"In fact, you did me a favor" 😂😂😂. Reminds me of something.

[@DEEPAKKUMAR-ch6cb]

What?

[@snowdaniels]

I'm all ears

[@jimbob4372]

@@lsdlaka The infamous pop the balloon episode 😂

[@vgbhg9540]

Yes definitely make more of these. This is priceless info.

[@pablomartinez1504]

I have been looking for advice on this for so long now. Videos teaching women how to screen men are a dime a dozen but the inverse is so rare for some reason. Thank you, Orion!

[@anthonyciardo1202]

Another test is to make a date location closer to you vs her. See if she says she’s inconvenienced. Or even see how she handles you saying no to her on something she wants. I used to not do these things and now they help quite a bit

[@Marking_The_Way]

Interesting! I once had a girl chew me out because it was the distance was closer to me, but the time was 50/50. I politely declined after that.

[@joshfranklin9941]

I always do this. Recently had a girl ask to change to a different bar, one known for cocktails, 2 hours before the date. (We were going to meet at more of a wine/beer place.) I agreed and proposed a place right down the street. Bad move on my part. She ended up being late, and 2 hours into the date she said she had some music release party to go to. (She worked in music.) Got nothing out of it, and I ended up spending at 2x as much on drinks as I would have if we’d stuck with the first place. I should have declined to change places and seen how she reacted. Probably would have saved me time and money!

[@cynthiaschell7246]

This youtube channel is so important for women to listen to because the suggestions given to these men are things a good woman should never do. I know men like hearing this type of advice from another guy, but it is not the way to a woman's heart. If men do these things to women, they will experience failure in courting. Men already know what the woman looks like, so asking a nice girl to send you personal pictures before the first date is crude and ungentlemanly. You will scare her off. If you want to date prostitutes, they will gladly send you photos, but likely for a fee. And I would think that men know to expect that. Sex requires trust and trust is earned and takes time. Do not expect it on the first date, even though so many men take it anyway. You need to date prostitutes, there are just so many available who will pretend to love you and they will give you sex. So, this advice is for men to date hookers, not good women.

[@alexisc7565]

Agreed. I haven't dated a man who asked for pics early on who wasn't a massiv headache to deal with lol

[@YS-pt5qr]

Its crazy that he said that a date " implies " sex or beeing open to it ! Boy where ?

[@theviolabee]

Lol, he certainly didn't think this one through. No decent woman will send intimate pictures of themselves on the first date. If anything, a man asking for pictures on the first date is one to avoid.

[@ewill312]

If a guy you were highly attracted to asked you that, i think you might see it differently. You’re assuming you aren’t that attracted to him. If you think Orion’s specific example was a bit too far, the premise is spot on in general. Dating should be flirty, so i think it’s important to vet that a girl is willing to flirt and be playful. If you don’t want sex right away thats sometimes acceptable but it shouldn’t start without flirting. It’s not an interview 😭 there needs to be an openness to sexuality on some level. -from a guy’s perspective

[@alexandrodl1371]

@@YS-pt5qr You misunderstood. Its the possibility of sex that is implied. No need to decide before the first date; Ill take '50%+ if he plays his cards right' but even if you go as low 10% ' Meh, hes not too bad but probably not' Its all right. But men never ever are looking for just a friend when asking a lady out.

[@michealfrank461]

Just finished reading your book VALUE OF OTHERS, Dr. Taraban I cannot thank you enough for the help, counsel, right path through your book Gentlemen, spend a few bucks & a weekend time to read this book. You will be saved from years & years of pain in the future. What have you done? You shattered all my preconceived notion about relationship, romance & SMV. My mind is so empty like a new born baby, I have de-learned everything in one read. I already started seeing things in their true form.

[@gregoryjanczak7013]

Oh yes, this is awesome and a whole new paradigm shift on looking at dating women. Thank you so much for this video.

[@arsal123]

Beautiful suggestion for saving my time. Thank you. This really helps saving my time and resources for only good people

[@Ed__Powell]

You should do a series on Cluster B women: narcissism, borderline, histrionic, psychopathic. I would say that 1/3 of young women are in these categories.

[@halfwheelking4327]

And in my experience 100% of those aged 70

[@VaronPlateando]

not to be dealt with anyway. any gut-felt recognition won't err, I guess.

[@VonJay]

have met a lot of NPDs in my day, that lack of whole object relations really sticks out when you learn what it is. You can see when people are splitting between "all good" and "all bad" thoughts with little to no nuance or intergration of the two. Toss in the outbursts (detonations) from the lack of object constancy and you'll know immediately that the relationship cannot continue. Wish I learned this in high school would have saved me a lot of time.

[@michamichalak6200]

@@VonJay NPDs are sensitive to rejection and slight disagreeable people. There is also no understanding of emotions and nature of life.

[@EE12CSVT]

Just a third?

[@sirraymondluxuryyacht8131]

All young men need to realize that if they have anything (property, vehicles, money or even an income) they are in danger from predatory women. Always value your assets and your mental peace by strictly vetting women. There are too many sloots and users out there. There is INCREDIBLE dignity and strength is telling a woman who protests your boundaries that she is free to leave. ANY sign of her over-reacting (physically or verbally) is an instant red card. Don't tolerate disrespect. People around you might criticise you for it, but even if they don;t say it, they will have a LOT more respect for you for shutting it down.

[@sarayusarayu832]

Everyone during class: Will this be on the test?

[@LeanByK]

By far one of the best videos you have made. And I own your book. I’ve dated a lot of “bombs” but never had the language for it. Thank you brother

[@Marking_The_Way]

Always so great to hear someone explain simply what we all know subconsciously! He gave a great analogy, but I would say he could have come up with a better "test" 😅

[@LeanByK]

@ yea the test was weak. But I’m avoiding bombs 💣 which I happened to meet and ate regularly. Now I know better lol

[@Marking_The_Way]

@LeanByK That's awesome dude! 😀

[@thecatwiththegat5187]

We're all clipping the red wire with this video, boys!

[@JohnnyArtPavlou]

😂😂😂

[@sranger100]

Awesome video as always. Looking forward to the next one. However, I do have one question. A lot of dating websites have policies against offensive behavior. How do you prevent the “bomb” from getting you banned?

[@lanceroparaca1413]

Get out of the dating app. Whatsapp, Signal, Telegram or whatever. That's where you ask her

[@alievrennesanir4297]

My personal opinion is that people just over complicate everything. Everything we are looking for is looking for us. Everything we're expecting from the other, the other is expecting from us. We are human, the same species. If you want to hear your gut, just listen more, observe more, and say less. It is only in silence that you hear the inner voice. We have three brains; mind, heart, and gut. Once you master how they're communicating, you will master every relationship in your life, be it with family, friends, colleagues, or spouse. Life is simple. Keep it that way. ❤

[@cosmopolitanbay9508]

Any bad or unexpected situation will be a test of character. In A Bronx tale, the test was to see if she's gonna open the car door, when you first opened it for her. You can bring an expired credit card to the date, you can forget her birthday, you can lose the tickets for the game / theatre play, or share an unpopular opinion on dating, the war between the sexes, etc. Disappointments usually show whom you're dating.

[@LisaCulton]

What kind of bum forgets a woman's birthday and expects a second chance?

[@KeyaCares]

There’s no need to create bad experiences to “see” what someone is going to do. Live life and observe. Stop testing women, we know what yall are doing and it gives us the ick. It makes a man seem insecure and women don’t want insecure men

[@LisaCulton]

@KeyaCares 👍

[@Marking_The_Way]

So in other words, see if she has manners and is forgiving in certain situations? 🤔

[@jm7974]

@@KeyaCares just wondering, do you test men? if so, how?

[@motivationmoneywellness]

please do a full series. This was great content.

[@drenthaci7011]

This tactics and advises are and were very helpful indeed. Thanks alot again,Dr.Orion from Dren Thaçi your best student !

[@wanderingpear]

You’ll eliminate a lot of normal women if you ask for “pics” (inferred meaning), before meeting or even early on in dating. Women are much more attuned to their physical safety than men and this request for pictures initially is creepy and signals danger to many. Yes, if she sends “pics”, you’ll be more assured of getting the “encounter” (implied), but you’ll also inadvertently eliminate the better candidates. Find a better litmus test that doesn’t signal “maybe this guy is a predator and strange” to the female.

[@Marking_The_Way]

Highly agree. I think his main concept was good, but this wasn't the best example.

[@modickens1272]

Wrong, they'll send hot pics when they're into you. It never fails, and they'll want filthy pics too. And I'm talking career women etc.

[@Marking_The_Way]

@@modickens1272 Unless you're like in the Top 10%, I don't see that happening...but maybe someone else in the comments can prove me wrong!

[@billseward2274]

Easy enough. “Can you shoot me a pic so I don’t embarrass myself by assuming someone else is you?” or some such verbiage.

[@wanderingpear22]

@@billseward2274 Taraban's "contentious pic" request idea ( timestamp 10:10 - 12:00) for screening dates, is to "test" that she is "on the same page" sexually ("not a friendly chat or interview" ) It sounds like it works for him and others. But a request of explicit pics before the first date will scare off some viable, attractive women. He understands this but finds the time efficiency of this "filter" more compelling.. But there are young men who might try this with their secret crush and get rejected, when they could have tried a different approach and succeeded. My comment was a point of view for the less experienced male looking for a relationship, not a mature guy looking for a time efficient test for hook ups.

[@PerrrsianCat]

As a woman i personally dislike being asked to send photos of myself to a complete stranger early on, because it makes the guy seem super unserious, and like he's not interested in getting to know me as a mind and soul...especially since i would already have photos of myself up on whatever profile we're both meeting through. My thought process is always "what do you want with my photos?? You dont even know me" . If a man wants to see more of me he can simply ask to see me in the flesh rather than consume the image of my flesh through a screen. I would definitely take this guy's advice with a pinch of salt if you're trying to date women with the intention of getting to know them as actual people who are equal to you in thoughts and feelings. That's just my opinion though

[@teaplayer9955]

As a woman, I completely agree. This test is too risky for a woman and will produce too many false negatives. Most guys I had great relationships with - I didn't even find them that attractive at the beginning. It was after the experience of positive interactions with them that attraction grew.

[@YS-pt5qr]

Whatever the level of interest i am not sending pics...because with those i send the wrong message .

[@KeyaCares]

Good call. I heard that guys ask for photos to j*rk off to. No thanks

[@teaplayer9955]

@@PerrrsianCat I also understood that what he means is nudes rather than ordinary pics, because, as you say, the ordinary pics are in the profile.

[@ChristaR-u2s]

@@PerrrsianCat I feel like I am mostly normal and if a guy canceled or implements whatever test he risks making me think he does not actually like me. And why would I chase after a guy that is not into me? For this reason, I think that if you are going to test them with some kind of last minute cancellation, if the woman accepts it, you should probably be prepared to take some step to make another alternative plan at a later date. As for pics being requested as a test, hopefully I just meet someone in person. lol. If I was online dating, there would already be photos in my profile that are current. This sounds like fishing for nudes. how would one even know if they are attracted to you without meeting yet? From a woman’s perspective, this is a sketchy request.

[@TheHariRockzz]

This channel is a gold mine

[@RoosterRaw]

Really good video well done mate. A lot of men today do not test or vet women today due to them not getting much attention so just go with the flow. But as the good doctor says vetting and setting boundaries straight away will separate the wheat from the chaff as it were thereby saving you the pain and “ explosive device” detonating in your vicinity! Stay safe chaps.

[@anmaibmt]

Thanks

[@howiesfunware]

What kind of pictures are we talking about? Sounds kind of creepy to me.

[@Straga_Severa_]

The ones to check if she is a catfish, for example.

[@stephena.8193]

Lol, creepy? I hear a faint ticking sound....

[@howiesfunware]

If you didn't already meet her in person, then it would be on a dating app which has her photos. If it's just tight photos of the face, you already know what that means so just move on to the next. Asking for photos seems redundant or creepy.

[@Straga_Severa_]

​@@howiesfunware It seems creepy if you have an agenda of catfishing. If you don't have one, then you don't look at it as creepy. Plain and simple.

[@elpakotheglorious]

He said "pics". That is fair, because initial attraction (in men and women) is largely about looks, though not exclusively. Few people fall in love with someone's character, heart, values, beliefs or soul in the first place. That's what helps us decide if we keep people, not what makes us want to win them in the beginning.

[@timuryorkart]

I once went out with a stunningly gorgeous woman on a date. And I asked her whether she's be willing to come in and work on Saturdays. That didn't end well...

[@kingofnewyork007]

The 'come in on Saturday' question related to employment. You have to think of a more relevant question if you are dating i.e. the 'send me a pic' request.

[@jm7974]

I always leave insignificant amounts of cash out apparently forgotten about in plain sight and if (some of it) it disappears then I know whats up. I encourage them order whatever they want, but create opportunities for them to reciprocate, maybe by changing locations and forgetting my wallet in the car. I'm interested in seeing if they treat their own money they same way they treat mine. A few times I have had to set hard budgets on dinner, not because I couldn't afford it rather because they had already proven they weren't worth it. I generally show up in the unsexy car for a first date. I ask about their lifestyle and their job and pay close attention to if they have the visible means to support it, particularly travel and designer bags, shoes and clothes. Those go a long way to weeding out the ones who don't respect you and/or your money.

[@ronnw8153]

It's amazing I've never thought about it like this. Thanks doc👍

[@francisco646]

This is one of your best videos yet! Thanks, Doc.

[@Marking_The_Way]

Great video indeed!

[@keasenne]

I look forward to your education.. Thank you very much Sir 🙏🏾

[@tooelenative9098]

I tuned into this as a first time listener, as a woman wanting to know what standards men have for women they want to date. The only thing I got out of it is that men should look out for women who get angry easily and become explosive. Okay. Fair enough. Good advice. Is that it?

[@jm7974]

This episode yes. You should go back maybe a year or so and start watching his videos coming forward. Orion is very constructive and useful for both men and women.

[@mdhazeldine]

Pardon my ignorance, but what kind of pics are we talking about here? Perhaps you'd say it's irrelevant, but I don't think so. Asking for a selfie is a pretty harmless request that I think most women would not object to (I mean, you've probably already seen pics of them on their dating profile, IG or something). If you're suggesting asking for nude pics, then yes obviously that would be somewhat of a test, but I don't know many sane women would send those before even meeting a man. If you've never met, she would be right to not trust you enough to do that. If I asked a woman for nude pics right off the bat and she said yes, that would actually be a red flag to me, because it would tell me she's pretty shallow and probably quite promiscuous. If we've had a few dates already, then that's perhaps where a test like this would start to become useful, but I think it really depends on what kind of relationship you're looking for, and your moral/religious views.

[@ferosdc]

Let she choose what she wanna send, then you choose if you wanna continue the interaction or not. "Pics" or "pics of you", she take 20 selfies every day is not so hard.,

[@lanceroparaca1413]

Up to the girl. That's precisely the point of the shit test. See where her mind is.

[@Madeyalookoops]

Yes!!! This!!

[@bryantomeo4142]

So simple and basic but effective! I wish i had heard this 30 years ago! Thank you!

[@jeej1344]

This is gold 🪙 ✨. Thanks Dr Taraban! From Benin republic, west Africa