Testing Topsy and Partnering with Royal Oilfield - Building a Winch Truck

[@Berta_Bros]

Me and my dad can’t express how happy we are to be a part of your guys operation working with everyone on and off camera. You guys have an awesome crew. Super excited to see what our BDE-770 can do.

[@ARepublicIfYouCanKeepIt]

Amazing news Joel. You're incredible on camera, man.

[@Berta_Bros]

@ still getting use to it after the last year or two. But I’m certainly getting the hang of it haha

[@Coondawgwoopwoop]

Thank you for helping with this project! I’m so excited to see you both grow from this.

[@DEBOSSGARAGE]

"My dad and I", Joel! Git yur English rite!

[@EdisonMotors]

@DEBOSSGARAGE he no talk English good like what’s u do

[@MrMartinSchou]

Honestly, using the game to spec out the truck was a brilliant move. And one thing you might want to think about, if you haven't already, is that ATS can be played in VR. If you take this approach, it would even allow you to get a really good feel for the cab and even location of things like mirrors and instruments, and you can do it with customers before a weld has been made.

[@EdisonMotors]

It can be? that's sweet

[@Unmoony]

@@EdisonMotors You need to select the VR "edition" in the Steam betas list, but it works great.

[@Akbonkster]

VR headset with a wheel and pedals would be really cool for demoing. Show up with a pelican case and a laptop, borrow a chair and a folding table and they can test drive everything.

[@TheBeardx]

I play ATS in VR. Game changer for sure

[@Cemi_Mhikku]

Maaaaaan, I LOVE this community.

[@stuffandjunkandthings364]

I know y'all might have already thought of this, but just in case- On the diesel fuel side of things, a circulation/ filtration pump might be a good idea to prevent algae growth in applications that don't run the gen set very often, and are fueled with ultra low sulfur diesel. I bring this up because when we were doing vehicle transport with a Dodge 3500, we had a 100 gallon tank in the bed, and it seemed like algae was always an issue. I rigged up a pump and filter setup that would just take it out of the tank, run it through a filter, and put it back, and running that daily seemed to take care of the problem. Adding a heating element to it probably also wouldn't be a bad idea to prevent gelling (and to make the gen set a bit easier to start)

[@robinbennett5994]

Good idea! In the marine world, they call that 'fuel polishing'.

[@scottp45]

In Canada most of the diesel has an additive from about October to April to make this not a problem - in Alberta where the video is shot the additive mix is such that it should be ok till -50. So heating element on the diesel shouldn't be required.

[@chimo1961]

@@robinbennett5994 In the Navy we had to re-circulate our Helicopter fuel, through Coalescing filters, twice a day. Moisture was huge issue because of the temperature extremes we worked in. Needles to say, any moisture or bio-growth would affect helo engine performance

[@rp1645]

A big YES on fuel polishing 😊 Though the same thing when I read his comments When I watch big vessels for sale video I always look for or listen to the tour guy talk about what the vessels have besides just the fuel filters. The amounts of gallons that they keep on vessels are going to have growth issues with fuel contamination. Plus by running the fuel through that resuscitation, it shows you the build-up of a growth problem. 😊

[@glenmcgillivray4707]

I was half pondering if you could take some of the manual labour out of the process by putting the fuel cleaning filter on a separate Solar powered pump to look after itself, don't need to run it fast if it's constantly going. But that wouldn't play well with the anti gelling requirement would it?

[@manitobafarmer]

Perfect combo of humor and education

[@my_channel_44]

5:28 😆

[@kennyFF033]

"It really smooths out the bumps when you get 'er up to 90"... I'm a Texan and I've said that my whole life ;-)

[@petejohnson8397]

@@kennyFF033 makes me think of a story i heard from truckers from ohio. they were in TX working. one in the bunk one driving. guy in the bunk woke up and told the guy driving "wtf are you doing... we have CDLs not pilots license."... Im trying to catch the guy ahead. then a call comes in on the CB ''you Buckeyes want to run with us, get something bigger. We have places to go"

[@ARepublicIfYouCanKeepIt]

I've been involved with Edison Motors since Topsy was being built. As someone who's worked with startups since 1995, what most people are missing is just how different their approach is from literally every company I've ever known. Chace, Eric and the team aren't in some pristine office, scoping something out on paper, in CAD or with VR. These are guys who know trucks first. They reimagined what electrifying heavy-duty vocational trucks could be, then set about just getting it done. Likewise, the engineering team aren't in some comfy, clean office. Their in the shop, they're in/around/under the truck, and they're out in the field, getting their hands dirty and their boots muddy. From the driver environment and workload, to the economics for the owner, literally every aspect of an extended range electric truck is vastly superior to that of its traditional counterparts. Beyond that, extended range electric heavy-duty vocational trucks can do so much more than any traditional counterpart could ever even imagine doing. With less than $2 million and from a tent shop with a dirt floor, these guys laser levelled a set a frame rails, then designed, fabricated and built everything on Topsy that's wasn't already a finished component or subassembly (C9, generator, batteries, e-axles, inverters, converters, etc., etc.). And they did all that in under 2 years. Having turned the wheels under her own power just 7 days before the debut at Fully Charged Live Canada in September 2023, Topsy underwent further integration work and testing. This past September, the Edison team returned to Vancouver for Everything Electric Canada 2024. Now, less than 3 months later, they've been field testing under real world conditions that no other manufacturer would ever dare. In the process they've secured orders from partners who believe in Edison Motors' vision and are fully invested in their success. This is how a company disrupts an entire industry while changing the world.

[@peter_meyer]

"... while charging the world." Fixed that for you. Greetings from Germany. Electric is the way to go. And if it needs a generator, it just needs a generator.

[@ysesq]

its nice....but also not how to scale up so you can crunch out 50,000 trucks per year. you needs robotics, assembly lines and $500 million in cash. muddy boots doesn't get you that.

[@peter_meyer]

@@ysesq Depends. If you specialize in a specific area, you can earn good money. Iveco, Volvo or Scania wont do snow plows. They will just offer the base. If that base needs improvement, you can earn even more.

[@ARepublicIfYouCanKeepIt]

@@ysesq There are zero plans to "crunch out 50,000 trucks per year". Therefore, no need for assembly lines, automation or robotics. Thus, zero need for $500 million. In case you're not aware, heavy-duty vocational trucks are bay built. That's because everything from the frame rails up is bespoke to the customer/use case. You don't build a winch truck, a low bed, a snow plow, a drill moving rig, or any other variant one can imagine on a friggin' assembly line. So, throw all the shade you want, I've been doing this since 1995. I've seen a lot in that time and I've worked personally alongside Chace, Eric and the team. Edison Motors is on the right track. They will succeed.

[@peter_meyer]

@@ARepublicIfYouCanKeepIt Exactly. If you look at special vehicles for specific purposes like e.g. the Unimog, low production numbers are pretty normal - but still profitable.

[@wild_lee_coyote]

Edison: working smarter and harder. Using American Truck Simulator for the basic build is genius. I’m sure Royal is going to love a heavy haul truck that can double as an onsite generator and power station. Think of the days when the truck is not hauling it can still be working. I love how the first set of trucks are not box trucks that compete with everyone else. Tridrive wench truck and snow plows, the big iron.

[@wild_lee_coyote]

Edison’s first trucks are a wench truck for heavy haul loads and snow plows. Tesla started by hauling Pepsi on smooth highways on short distribution routes. I know which truck I want.

[@erkinalp]

@@wild_lee_coyote edison indeed

[@Ghfvhvfg]

Playing a edison [n a video game great idea

[@jmazoso]

That black theme tri-axle wich truck just looks mean!! Super badass!

[@EdisonMotors]

I think its a massive design impovment

[@DavidLeon140m3]

Can’t wait to see Royal put it to work !

[@lpdirv]

Can totally see why the Edison truck will take over the oilfield truck market. All that torque with none of the noise and gears. Plus electrical power in the field is really under rated. No generators needed if one of these trucks is on site.

[@ChuckvdL]

16:30 Doing wheelies with the loader is epic proof of the math around “men - boys = price of toys”

[@michaeladkins5005]

Absolutely love this company and the ways you're changing the industry for the future!! Even something like the simulator for special ordering your truck with all the fine details and being able to virtually sit inside and see from every angle to get the closest idea of what it would be like in reality!! GREAT IDEAS AND GREAT PEOPLE IN THIS COMPANY!!!

[@MrWeebable]

New truck design renders look awesome

[@EdisonMotors]

Thanks man

[@Onkar-i4s]

In few months we'll see real ones

[@ilenastarbreeze4978]

16 - 20 mins is why its important for engineers to know what folks are gonna use their machines for, its gotta surviveum ;P

[@jlaustill]

I can not wait to turn my Ford F350 into a diesel hybrid and reuse my 5.9 Cummins to power a generator. Keep up the good work!!!

[@christopherrto]

...why does your Ford have a Cummins?

[@jlaustill]

@christopherrto because I put one in it

[@yo9758]

Depends on what your doing but if your not pulling heavy loads down a mountain put a transmission behind that 5.9 it’s more efficient than hybrid systems

[@aparker9622]

If he put a Cummins in a Ford, I don't think efficiency is the goal 😂 let the man build what he wants. I wanna put a 5.9 in an XJ. And one of these days I'll make it so

[@CausticLemons7]

I love this stuff! If my dad were still around he'd be all over this, but at least we're here to appreciate your work.

[@markcrockford9679]

These trucks are going to be such a blessing for people living near major depots , I hope you guys got a yard tug ready to go , In Australia they do " Changeovers " Where a short haul truck runs trailers out of the city to be picked up by Roadtrains , I think something like Topsy would be perfect for that run out of the City ! Keep it up Everyone at Edison ! I like where this is going

[@ltpinecone]

Said it before, I'll say it again: you guys are awesome. I love the the idea of using the ATS configuration as a demo for customers. It is hands down the most creative (and fun) build and price system for a vehicle I have ever seen.

[@evandavis9636]

I don’t have a horse in this race but I must say watching your videos has been fascinating.

[@MASS1866]

It’s still nut watching a truck like that rolling silently. Just so cool! 18:00. I can here the Deere mechanics just swearing and hollering

[@ARepublicIfYouCanKeepIt]

I first met Joel in September 2023 when he low-bedded Topsy to Fully Charged Live Canada in Vancouver. So it was a pleasure to once again spend some time with him around Everything Electric Canada this past September. As good as Joel is on camera in this video, I just want to say that he is truly one of a kind. He's an incredible human being, a genuinely good guy, smart, thoughtful and caring. Oh, and he's a fantastic trucker, too! Dad, you done good.

[@Berta_Bros]

@@ARepublicIfYouCanKeepIt appreciate that John, was a pleasure meeting you down in Vancouver! Hopefully catch you there again next year!

[@ARepublicIfYouCanKeepIt]

@@Berta_Bros If not beforehand. Have a great one!

[@BenjaminVestergaard]

Awesome to see an investor/supporter/sponsor is more than a bag of money. They wanna be customers too. That's when you found out that you did great.

[@Bunster]

spec'ing a truck in ATS is wild and I love it

[@MrSavon42]

What CD is on the floor of the truck?

[@jnic2003]

The funny thing is they can add the electric drive in the game. Someone has the L series mod already with electric.

[@usercid640]

I love the technology but the best part is y'all make good videos. Props to the editor.

[@averagejoe1971]

This is still something I can't wait to see happen especially in lower style vehicles like hot shot trucks.

[@theglitch99]

I drove a winch truck in the oilfield for years there are blast once you learn them it's crazy the things you can move

[@scruffy6151]

Let the man building the truck fall in love with how it works, so building it is a joy.

[@wobblysauce]

Also, know why things are where they are... and not just move them because you can.

[@BluFox185]

Amazing use of American Truck Simulator, I'd have never thought of that! Love the education you put into your engineers and understanding of the jobs and the rigs the jobs use. This company amazes me with every upload, I will not hesitate to support more when I can, you guys deserve it. -Chris

[@EdisonMotors]

Thanks Chris - Chace

[@Darion588]

I just love how frickin local this is. Just a stones throw from my stomping grounds. Congrats on the whole outfit gentlemen.

[@elliottdiedrich3068]

It is local for me too. I live between Royal's shop and the oil lease that they showed. When they pulled into the Burger Baron for lunch, I am going to guess that they had a mushroom burger.

[@brandonm6052]

Yall doing loader wheelies is on the same level as Westin Champlin feeling the need to burn out with everything 😂

[@ryanstamand3654]

Ha! They drove up to my Rig. Fox 3 baby! Best of luck to you guys from the derrickhand.

[@andysmith5220]

I grew up from 7 yrs old driving a bed truck with my grandad in Odessa TX. Love the video great memories. Grandad had 2 Autocars twin steer. And smaller International

[@BackUp-z4t]

Grreat video. A fun watch. Thanks. Looking forward to more updates.

[@ryanmccoy1997]

Not sure if others feel this way but I think DJ handles the camera very well and he is very good at explaining what’s going on.

[@TheCorrupterX]

After you talked about the shifting it made me think of why I love riding my electric dirt bike and don't want to ride my normal bike anymore: the shifting. Being able to just hit the throttle and go makes it much easier to drive, so your attention can be focused on the other dingleberries on the road that are the main danger.

[@madmesmith5187]

Good Luck guys awesome job 👍

[@syberspy9]

Love to see your testing your people and the trucks in our Alberta trucking environment. Royal will definitely give you amazing feedback, even more so in the winter. Let's move some rigs boys!

[@patsquach4080]

I recently saw a KZbin video about truck accessories and they had a set of tracks that were designed to be used for large trucks and were quick change for on and off capabilities… so trucking up to a job site put the tracks on ,deliver to the back of the site without getting stuck . Remove the the tracks,back to the highway. They looked easier and quicker than putting on a set of chairs…. The only set back was being able to carry them around…. But that being said ,a company that does that type of deliveries might want to check them out .. save beating up an access road for multiple deliveries.. especially if there are hills and snow / ice /mud , involved ….

[@GlockMan70]

Amazing video loved all the info on the work that their new Edison Truck is going to do!!!

[@EyesOfByes]

Alex on LTT wore a blue Edison Motors hat on latest video, so I guess a collab video is coming

[@RubensOteroNeto]

ow that will be so cool

[@subwarpspeed]

Maybe. But Alex has been a practical guy from before LTT so maybe he just has the apparel. But LTT and Edison are the BC, Canada channels I watch so it would be interesting. Maybe Linus can give out some screwdrivers 😊

[@wobblysauce]

Alex has been a follower for a long time if you watch older videos.

[@rp1645]

I went to a KW open house 😊 when I was very young down by Boeing field. My dad's friend was one of those muddy boot guys. Mostly with the Canadian and Alaska logging off-road haulers. I would so love to come up and visit your yard. Your big Rig truck design is such an advanced idea. I love seeing you work with the oil field heavy haul side, and the great experts 😊 Scania engine willing to work with a start-up is so wonderful 😊 I saw one of there static display marine Diesel engines at a work boat show, was very impressive. I love it. You get the work guy who actually runs the trucks to be part of the design and build 😊 not just a guy in white shirt with black ties engineer types.

[@jaykanngiesser3454]

Wonder how many times the trailer wheels will be in the ditch until the drivers get used t the central driving position? lol! You guys rock! And this from a retired consultant.

[@DAVEG150]

That looked like a fun day playing with all the big boy toys👍👍

[@chimo1961]

Between the Logging and Energy industry trucks, your Engineers are gonna be busy. So many interesting specialty trucks and home grown innovation. Great place for Edison to take root and become an Industry icon. Big hopes for you guys.

[@Ahomesteadersdream]

For small commercial, heavy consumer market… get a conversion kit for passenger/cargo vans like my 2016 Mercedes Sprinter with almost 600,000kms… when this thing blows I’d love to convert it;) You’d have every Hutterite colony and delivery fleet knocking down your doors!

[@334cityworker]

Love watching the engineers learn the controls

[@1944chevytruck]

GOOD JOB EVERYONE!

[@blahbaconblah]

I cannot wait for the Pickup Truck Kits to start going out and to see the great builds that come from that!

[@jenkinseric2]

I sometimes think that the designers of cars don't even have a driver's license or know which end of a wrench to hold. You guys are amazing.

[@donbrearley3148]

Ive never wanted to drive a rig ever in my life, until now... I'd love to take that bad boy for a spin. Looks like fun. You guys are great, wishing you pure success!!

[@EnGammalAmazon]

Great job of creating reality around a vision.

[@picnic9185]

When were you guys in caroline???? Wish I could have came an seen you guys I helped build that pad that the drilling rig and the soon to be gas plant for Paramount sit on Awesome video will sure be nice to see one of your trucks in our area.

[@181racing]

Well done , onwards and upwards for Edison motors ❤❤

[@trump45and2zig-zags]

Ngl i was skeptical when i first saw topsy and the plans you were talking about but damn you're killing it!!

[@tonym2554]

Edison motors is awesome! Makes me happy to watch and listen! Thanks for throwing in some good humor!

[@kenstiles721]

I remember doing that on the drilling rigs that we had a big o John deer front end loader, had a hoot loading pipe, casing, drilling mud.

[@keithjacobson4493]

I’ve been out of OTR trucking since 1994. What you are doing is really fascinating for the industry. Keep on ….

[@kylezeman2177]

I cant wait for the day when one of them trucks make it to my area to see in action. Also i believe one day there will be 1 ton dully crew cab pickup trucks running around with the Edison name on the grill.

[@ianweniger6620]

Topsy sounds like my kid's OG fatbike flying down the FSR at Harrison Lake... just coasting with no sound but the gravel under some serious tires. Delicious!

[@raytheguyinthechair2791]

Love you guys but I gotta get the Catalina wine mixer shirt now

[@samsymes001]

Hey royal if your watching! I'm an 26 year old aussie that would love to come jump in one of your rigs one day! Would be absolutely awesome experience

[@oldcivicjoe9069]

I DEFINITELY would love to drift a rig down a gravel road!😍

[@henrycarlson7514]

So Wise , Thank You for getting the engeneers involved with every thing.

[@jaykanngiesser3454]

Going to need variable speed winch on the bed truck since an electrically driven hydraulic pump won’t be happy without a VFD. Simple manually adjustable valve on hydro to the winch. Will be weird hi speed winching without revving the motor!

[@Woodburner100]

If you want to see some beautiful choreography, watch a rig move when a good contractor with good operators and stampers does the job. It’s absolutely incredible to see the coordination and the skill involved. The Truck Push orchestrates the whole performance and there aren’t many wasted movements. Not like the screaming and black smoke in the old days.

[@svalenti94]

Great video, love to see the involvement of the engineers. For fun y’all should do a 0-100 kmh run loaded and unloaded with Topsey

[@simpledj509chromo7]

I want to get back to heavy equipment. I had run my dad's 30 hp Kubota. The farm I worked for let me run much bigger stuff and I learned really fast. The 924f loading hay with no brakes was probably the machine that taught me what I needed to know. I got to run a nearly new 950K and G I think. This was a decade ago and my memory isn't great these days. Those 950's were so sweet though. The float on those machines was sweet. I could cover ground and keep the loader planted without bucking the machine and causing unnecessary wear and tear. Joystick was also a huge improvement, but with enough hours the old hydro sticks were fine. The hydo finger setup was my preference. But I only got 40 hours on that machine as it was a rental. I really liked it and it gave me a bridge to the joystick. I haul propane transports now but would like to expand into welding or heavy equipment. We'll se who offers me a job first. Being home every night would be nice.

[@jammiedodger7040]

Your new truck design looks so much better.

[@Craig-qx7uy]

Those renders look AMAZING! blacked out trouble!

[@ianhughes7805]

Absolutely superb to see you’re progress, great stuff

[@dutchyjhome]

Yes keep bringing this on !

[@michaelishoj1111]

Exciting times in the EV/HD trucking industry!

[@David-cy2ug]

I think everyone is waiting for you guys to light em up on the road, and do a rolling burnout. 🙏🏼🇺🇲

[@David-uz9qw]

This is such a great idea. Really enjoying following you guys

[@prowler2358]

You guys are gonna need a bigger workshop 🤔

[@EdisonMotors]

We know, we're working on that still

[@HightowerLSSD]

P for wipers, N for horn. Great to see you getting contracts to get your testing done with your partners. If I ever get the means, I'd like to do a good quad-axle all-wheel drive dump truck.

[@pierrearmand6590]

Great news. I wish you guys unlimited success.

[@Duvstep910]

love oilfield trucks thanks to timelapse trucker and you guys; would love to see how these beasts are built. Can't wait for the new cab design to make its way to ATS as well; looks beautiful Edit: we need to get people driving 18 speeds more; the most fun transmissions around

[@jaydipalo2501]

Great Collaboration, I live in the Caroline AB area and saw you guys running around Topsy! i was super excited to see her live on the highways. been a huge fan of Eddison Motors from the Start been Following all your media. super excited to see this project come to life! Great job to the Team and can't wait for the pickup Conversion to be available! when can we pre Order those!?

[@subwarpspeed]

It's on the website

[@weaselduke]

Love this project, love these guys. What a beauty day a, indeed. Takes me back to the days of snagging somewhat staticy SCTV with some coathanger from over Lake Erie. Seriously, I wish they would adopt the generator style hybrid in cars instead of having all the extra drivetrain of current hybrid cars and SUVs. Need a system that will use the 4.3 in my Astro, plenty of room for batteries inside or out.

[@kaceesavage]

You guys keep kicking ass!

[@ag-om6nr]

These Edison Motors engineers will really be earning their Iron Rings !

[@rolandbois2300]

Good job like that. ❤❤❤

[@brianbrwa]

Free advice (which might tick off an acquaintance). Use the generator for onsite (I think it's already planned) drill pumps to limit fuel stored on the drill rig

[@thomasbroesky4322]

Gotta bring that truck down to Manitoba to get some brutal winter testing

[@The-Urban-Goose]

15:30 As a European I would HIGHLY recommend you switch from brake light indicators to dedicated indicator lights, as they're much safer. "The Senseless Ambiguity of North American Turn Signals" by Technology Connections here on KZbin is a great video on the matter. LEDs don't use that much power, and there's bound to be standardised, off-the-shelf components you can use to add dedicated rear turn signals to future production models.

[@NogrimStoneson]

Back in the early 2000s we got to play around with electric motor gokarts. After the first night i knew these things would be the future. It was all a matter of getting the electricity source figured out. Once you guys prove out the diesal and your platform you should mess with those fuel turbines you can throw anything in to

[@scottlagasse3182]

3:28 Super Torquey! The great thing about electric motors!!

[@goldstrom2010]

Great awesome Editing.. love how I can drive the Edison Truck on ATS.. now I need to figure out where I can play it...

[@zoutsider88]

hell yeah! excellent partnership.

[@Chrisrrable]

I LOVE this company! So cool! Keep it up!

[@simonthebroken9691]

Thank you. Very exciting.

[@James_Games76]

That truck looks baller now. Kentworth style is the best

[@kevinducharme1263]

HOLY COW!! you even got Mike Deboss out there too. actually that's not really a surprise because he strikes me as being a hands-on kind of guy. your engineers will have a better understanding of the different kinds of work that these trucks are being built for.

[@jblob5764]

20:10 the pure childish joy in these guys laughter 😂

[@gormauslander]

This application makes so much sense for electric. This truck doesn't move very far at all, and half the time it's just running the engine to power the hydraulics, which is overkill. The generator on this might not fire up all day depending on what needs moving

[@StealthyOgre]

I live 30 mins from Caroline, AB! I'll be excited to see an Edison truck locally!

[@Cemi_Mhikku]

Y'all better release this mod once you get everything sorted. Especially if you can get the drivetrain to work right. SCS tends to be super engaged with their fans btw, you might wanna get in touch about that. Also, you can get proper shift knobs with splitter and range select switches designed to work with this game. 👍

[@Greybeardmedic]

You will need to add a speaker and a sound to Topsy. Here in the US they are making all EV manufacturers add a sound to the vehicles so that pedestrians can hear a car approaching. Its a safety feature for EV's because they don't make any noise from their engine. ALthough in the case of Topsy, I suppose that the speaker could be turned off when the generator fires up.

[@l.p.bilham9852]

Nice to see the nice solid progression 🙂

[@nicholascardenas1791]

Need ol' Peg from Zip Ties to giver the final greased mechanic latte of approval