TF2 VS TFC: The Evolution of the Soldier

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Intro: 0:00
Round 1: 1:39
Round 2: 2:21
Round 3: 2:33
Round 4: 3:22
Round 5: 4:20
Round 6: 5:13
Round 7: 7:15
Final Round: 11:22

Пікірлер: 929
@SquibGourmand
@SquibGourmand Жыл бұрын
tf2 soldier wins by default because rick may won over our hearts 🫡
@SquimJim
@SquimJim Жыл бұрын
o7
@windowmaker5753
@windowmaker5753 Жыл бұрын
o7
@BaconPuncakesX
@BaconPuncakesX Жыл бұрын
o7
@toilet137
@toilet137 Жыл бұрын
o7
@Philiponbread
@Philiponbread Жыл бұрын
o7
@purplehaze2358
@purplehaze2358 Жыл бұрын
"Rockets in TF2 are not particularly fast compared to some other projectiles" I'd like to point out that, in TF2, crossbow bolts, syringes, arrows, and a meat cleaver are all faster than _a rocket._
@Seroperato
@Seroperato Жыл бұрын
Makes sense
@Kyle-ql9km
@Kyle-ql9km Жыл бұрын
Funny how that never struck me as odd
@gojirarex5138
@gojirarex5138 10 ай бұрын
syringes are slower but yeaa
@cyanideytandcuriousseadogg4160
@cyanideytandcuriousseadogg4160 9 ай бұрын
Keep in mind that meat cleaver was yeeted by a fast Boston crackhead with a super shotgun
@SawdustSalad
@SawdustSalad 3 ай бұрын
@@cyanideytandcuriousseadogg4160 he also survives chugging actual RADIATION
@dustee985
@dustee985 Жыл бұрын
Do Spy or Medic next, they actually changed A LOT.
@cheezkid2689
@cheezkid2689 Жыл бұрын
I feel like both TF2 classes would win pretty quickly. Uber and cloak are pretty damn strong.
@choccymilky5544
@choccymilky5544 Жыл бұрын
​@cheezkid26 Not sure about spy here, but I'm pretty sure TFC Medic stomps tf2. Uber doesn't really help if Medic can't attack during it, and the only thing that Medic potentially has is Melee on his side. Meanwhile TFC can literally infect and do pretty good damage, he has far better weapons compared to the syringe gun (heck he has a super syringe gun), and has regeneration also. From what I know, TF2 Medic is only good for support, and TFC is good for fighting for themselves. I'd say TFC Med vs TF2 Scout would be 10x cooler to see.
@wesleyfuccaro8821
@wesleyfuccaro8821 Жыл бұрын
yeah tf2 is an easy win for both
@franagustin3094
@franagustin3094 Жыл бұрын
​@@wesleyfuccaro8821nah tfc medic is better
@franagustin3094
@franagustin3094 Жыл бұрын
Spy in tfc is better cause it has a shotgun, poison grenades which infect you until you die, he has grenades, bhop and many stabs like neck stab for example. In tf2 you can look back and kill the spy but in tfc, if he catch you up, you are dead
@purplehaze2358
@purplehaze2358 Жыл бұрын
"The rocket launcher VS the other rocket launcher" Ah, truly a battle for the ages.
@ThMnWthNNm
@ThMnWthNNm Жыл бұрын
I like how fast he just gave up when he suggested the Bison.
@gamma7109
@gamma7109 Жыл бұрын
What's hilarious is, this came out just minutes after I finished my binge of the rest of the series
@user-ci3xy9fe5u
@user-ci3xy9fe5u Жыл бұрын
no way man me too. i was sad there was no more and now it came out hell yea
@creamgravy1952
@creamgravy1952 Жыл бұрын
I feel like TFC's rocket launcher having higher knockback and slower rockets might give them a significant disadvantage against TF2 soldier in a direct 1 on 1, making it harder to track and land hits where TF2's rocket jumping is such an integral part of soldier's kit it would be easier to out maneuver and turn that to your advantage
@franagustin3094
@franagustin3094 Жыл бұрын
Nah, it takes more skill to play with slow rockets, also you forgot about bhop. Scouts main are better than soldier mains in 1v1, now imagine that scout with more speed and a rocket launcher
@geoshark12
@geoshark12 Жыл бұрын
@@franagustin3094 this fight wouldn’t have anything to do with player skill, and if we are taking height advantage the tf2 soldier would be better at air shots due to faster rockets and better at attacking from the air Also found the scout main that hates direct hit solider’s
@franagustin3094
@franagustin3094 Жыл бұрын
@@geoshark12 You have to take skill if you want to talk about 1v1 and tfc soldier is used to deal with faster players than tf2 soldier, so no, tfc soldier is better at attacking from the air. In addition, scout is stronger than soldier because of his movement, tfc soldier is faster than tf2 soldier because of bhop and with grenades is an easy lost for tf2 soldier which also would be losing his health because of rocket jumping which gives advantage for tfc soldier, who can damage from far with shotgun. Slow rockets take more skill too
@calebbarnhouse496
@calebbarnhouse496 Жыл бұрын
​@@franagustin3094 lol definitely a scunt
@geoshark12
@geoshark12 Жыл бұрын
@@franagustin3094 if were going with “skill” instead of raw stats like the actual video then you would have to include the things from the comics as well as the unlock weapons in which case tf2 solider would win with a neck snap
@RevolutionaryOven
@RevolutionaryOven Жыл бұрын
10:18 Actually, it's not based on the distance the rocket was fired from, it's based on the distance the soldier is from his target. I know this not just from playing way too much soldier (doing sync-rocket divebombing), but there's a video out there somewhere (forgot who made it, sorry) who showed a soldier taking a teleporter to appear next to his target while the rocket travelled, and when it arrived it did max damage rampup.
@manmanmanmanmanman
@manmanmanmanmanman Жыл бұрын
i guess it was shounic
@gabef.218
@gabef.218 Жыл бұрын
Same thing with the wrangler on Engie. Gotta love Source Spaghetti
@warpstarrogue3554
@warpstarrogue3554 Жыл бұрын
I'm fairly confident that medic vs medic will be the only stomp for tfc. Not only does classic have the double barrel shotgun, but tf2 medic has what is clearly baby man's nail gun for damage unless he wants to risk getting in melee range.
@Warpzel65
@Warpzel65 Жыл бұрын
It really depends on how how rank them, since tfc med is a powerful combat class and tf2 med is pretty worthless in combat but his healing and uber win entire games
@zebaguettefromfrance1287
@zebaguettefromfrance1287 Жыл бұрын
If you count combat for medic then TFC has an obvious advantage but as a support class medic outclasses TFC so hard it's not even funny.
@StarshadowMelody
@StarshadowMelody Жыл бұрын
"But what kind of unlocks would It's the crossbow."
@franagustin3094
@franagustin3094 Жыл бұрын
​@@zebaguettefromfrance1287tfc also heals too. Not better than tf2 medic but he can
@zebaguettefromfrance1287
@zebaguettefromfrance1287 Жыл бұрын
​@@franagustin3094 yes but comparing TFC medic's medkit to the unparalleled game destroying potential of ubercharge just doesn't leave much room for argument. Ludwig is the king of support hands down.
@MalarkySparky
@MalarkySparky Жыл бұрын
Spy's death at 6:01 was way more dramatic than it had any right being
@triceratroytv2292
@triceratroytv2292 10 ай бұрын
L4d zombie ahh death
@shagrat6686
@shagrat6686 9 ай бұрын
6:02 this is the most dramatic spy death i have ever seen
@thedecentgamer7818
@thedecentgamer7818 Жыл бұрын
You're forgetting, tf2 soldier can't die after taking merasmus' entire bottle of "kill me come back stronger" pills. Victory by attrition
@Rdotmop
@Rdotmop Жыл бұрын
Very interested to see Demoman, the weapons are so similar in concept yet function pretty differently Plus, classic Demoman having the Single Barrel Shotgun might make it the only time in history that weapon wasn't worthless. Maybe.
@figro1988
@figro1988 Жыл бұрын
I would think the single barrel shotgun still would not be good, It deals tiny damaged compared to the other stuff in his kit.
@Rdotmop
@Rdotmop Жыл бұрын
@@figro1988 Yeah, it does piss poor damage, but unless I'm remembering wrong, TFC Demoman doesn't have really anything that can hit people from long range, so low damage is better than no damage at that range
@greg-definitely-real
@greg-definitely-real Жыл бұрын
Fun Fact: Rocket Damage Falloff in TF2 is calculated by player distance to the explosion, not distance traveled.
@jakobvonbugmann
@jakobvonbugmann Жыл бұрын
I couldn’t in good conscience put TF2 soldier under any other soldier. He IS the face of unrepentant stupid violence and power. Glory to our Stars and Stripes Savant!
@cristianovogt5586
@cristianovogt5586 Жыл бұрын
I think Medic Vs Medic would be cool but making the video into 2 separate parts. 1-seeing which medic is the best at playing offensively And 2-seeing which medic is the best at playing supportively. (Mostly to let TF2 Medic stand a chance.)
@zussman_
@zussman_ Жыл бұрын
TFC medic -has real weapons (shootguns super needlegun Crowbar -has grenades -can protect himself -can bunnyhop even fast than scout -can poise enemy team with his medkit -no one forces you to only heal people Tf2 medic -can ubercharge -very bad weapons expect crussider -hard to protect yourself even if you try to fight people will make fun of you -can become powerfull with heavy -has normal fast -Cant go war zone without somoene -his purpose more like just healing people more than fighting... -The everyone loves but nobody plays -entire team calls him and it makes him mad Tfc medic=Combat Medic Tf2 medic=Medic...
@superbrainz2357
@superbrainz2357 Жыл бұрын
​​@@zussman_ TFC medic also had conc grenades alongside the regular ones he can jump with. Imo in a 1v1 tfc medic annihilates tf2 medic and its not even close. He's so much faster and has much better equipment. Think of it this way: tf2 medic *helps* you win games, tfc medic WINS the game.
@Mikescool444
@Mikescool444 Жыл бұрын
@@superbrainz2357 kinda the point of the original comment. TFC is much more capable as it’s own class, while TF2 is built to rely on teamwork and strategy. Same reason it’s difficult to fight a heavy or demoman as a medic, unless you do some goofy ubersaw switching shit.
@elfascisto6549
@elfascisto6549 5 ай бұрын
​@@zussman_ every single class becomes powerful with heavy
@bigbozo75
@bigbozo75 4 ай бұрын
TFC medic is better at healing. He can heal someone at 1 HP to full in less than a second with the med kit.
@lm9029
@lm9029 Жыл бұрын
TFC soldier having grenades also meant he could "double blast jump" mid air similar to how the Beggars Bazooka lets you overload jump.
@user-xk6sg6jg3r
@user-xk6sg6jg3r Жыл бұрын
AH. You're back. I was actually scared.
@SquimJim
@SquimJim Жыл бұрын
Me too!!
@Blu_slushy
@Blu_slushy Жыл бұрын
@@SquimJim hey can you do medic vs medic next?
@babyghast4379
@babyghast4379 Жыл бұрын
Please do Engineer next, engineer may be interesting since buildings have been thrown into the mix. (Also, aren’t the engineers relatives? If so, it would be cool to see who upheld their legacy better).
@franagustin3094
@franagustin3094 Жыл бұрын
With buildings, tf2 engi win. Without them, tfc engi win because of EMP (that shit is the most unbalanced weapon of tfc)
@canadianhawkeye4720
@canadianhawkeye4720 Жыл бұрын
Tfc engie is tf2 engie's dad
@dande3208
@dande3208 Жыл бұрын
what did the emp do?
@franagustin3094
@franagustin3094 Жыл бұрын
@@dande3208 It has a long range of distance, his damage traspass walls (if the emp is up to you, you will die cause its effect) and it gives you an instantly dead, not matter if you are full of health. Many engis use the emp for surprise attacks and it was unfair because you never knew when it was coming
@gabef.218
@gabef.218 Жыл бұрын
Unrelated, but I happen to have that minifig in your profile pic!
@ClonedGamer001
@ClonedGamer001 Жыл бұрын
2:53 I see you reusing that market garden footage, Squim. You can't fool me!
@SquimJim
@SquimJim Жыл бұрын
I did it ONE time! Now I'll reuse the footage for all eternity.
@zedowskyy9290
@zedowskyy9290 Жыл бұрын
I still think counting grenades is pretty dumb, because in if you're gonna count something specific only for tfc why not count something specific only for tf2 by getting unlockables into the mix, or just as I wrote above, not count grenades at all.
@superbrainz2357
@superbrainz2357 Жыл бұрын
Because grenades are base kit for tfc classes and unlockables are not.
@zedowskyy9290
@zedowskyy9290 Жыл бұрын
@@superbrainz2357 still, it's a dumb freebie
@GlitchWitch69
@GlitchWitch69 Жыл бұрын
When it comes to TFC shotgun versus TF2 shotgun, I think you should call it based off of what class uses it, since different classes have uses for the shotgun. Like for Soldier, the shotgun is much more of close range weapon since the rocket launcher self damage is too dangerous for most close range fights, meaning the TF2 shotgun is better. But for Pyro (and to a lesser extant Heavy) the shotgun is more for picking off targets outside of your flamethrowers range or finishing low health targets running away, meaning the better range of the TFC shotgun is more important. It’s super subjective, but reflects the usefulness more imo
@fluffydestroyer8336
@fluffydestroyer8336 Жыл бұрын
keep in mind with the damage output that grenades can give a BIG boost in burst damage, you can land a rocket and grenade at the same time. I do however think that the crazy knockback from the tfc rockets could be a hindrance to a soldier not used to them, I forgot how insane it is
@TheAweDude1
@TheAweDude1 Жыл бұрын
I think you kind of skimped on the details for rocket jumping. Yes, they are essentially equivalent in terms of health cost, but what else? Who jumps higher? Who can go faster? Is rocket jumping as necessary for movement in TFC as in TF2?
@SquimJim
@SquimJim Жыл бұрын
Theyre essentially the same to be honest. The main difference being TFC can bunnyhop out of a rocket jump in a way TF2 can't really.
@vyor8837
@vyor8837 Жыл бұрын
​@@SquimJim on the other hand faster rockets means that you can bomb much more safely.
@franagustin3094
@franagustin3094 Жыл бұрын
​@@vyor8837on the other hand, a grenade destroy soldier and you forgot his main grenade which take you the half of health. Rolls out would be a death for tf2 soldier and in distance, tfc soldier beat him
@vyor8837
@vyor8837 Жыл бұрын
@@franagustin3094 you know. If the TFC guy could *hit* TF2 Soldier with those grenades... which he can't do. And, uh, Tf2 soldier can walk out of the way of TFC's rockets, it's much harder to do that with TF2 soldier rockets unless you're playing Scout.
@franagustin3094
@franagustin3094 Жыл бұрын
@@vyor8837 do you think he can't touch tf2 soldier with grenades? In the first moment that tf2 soldier go to floor, he would lost 75% of his health because of nail grenade and his rollouts. And tfc soldier is faster than scout if you add bhop, I don't think tf2 soldier is walking out all tfc soldier rockets
@WaylonTF2007
@WaylonTF2007 Жыл бұрын
I'd say this is the most mathematically involved episode of TF2 VS TFC. Must have been a massive headache
@incoherentbabbler4636
@incoherentbabbler4636 Жыл бұрын
hoo, that was quick! glad to see this channel back in action
@Marty_9kata
@Marty_9kata Жыл бұрын
I waited a year for a new TF2 VS TFC video. It was worth it.
@Luigi1000
@Luigi1000 Жыл бұрын
I'd love to see an Engi vs. Engi battle. Not only would it come down to the buildings and what they can do, but how fast they can be built and how much metal they cost to fully build first stage and upgrade it.
@ClonedGamer001
@ClonedGamer001 Жыл бұрын
I'd say TF2 should've won the shotgun round for Soldier. Yes the TFC double barrel shotgun is more consistent at longer ranges, but Soldier already has mid-to-long range covered with his rockets, so the much higher close range effectiveness of TF2's shotgun is more useful to him
@fantastikboom1094
@fantastikboom1094 8 ай бұрын
No? TF2 doesn't cover long range with his rockets, they're unreliable for that. They deal worse damage than TFC super-shotgun. Also TFC soldier can simply avoid rockets lol. And why would he come closer if he has range advantage? So no, you're just wrong.
@ClonedGamer001
@ClonedGamer001 8 ай бұрын
@@fantastikboom1094 We're not talking sniper sightline levels of distance here. That's why I said "mid to long range." A major weakness of the rocket launcher is you can't use it at super close ranges without damaging yourself, and the TF2 shotgun is much more effective at close range than the TFC double barrel, so it covers that weakness better. The range the double barrel is effective at is more or less the same range that the rocket launcher goes out to, so it doesn't grant a range advantage and it doesn't cover the close range weakness.
@pajamapantsjack5874
@pajamapantsjack5874 Жыл бұрын
I literally binged this series last night and there’s already a new episode. How!?
@advancedmicrodevices3868
@advancedmicrodevices3868 Жыл бұрын
Fun fact about Grenades: In TF2 pre release. The soldier and other classes were suppose to have grenades but it was overall cut
@apolloknight9521
@apolloknight9521 Жыл бұрын
With good reason. Grenade Spam.
@majesticgrey
@majesticgrey Жыл бұрын
You DO have to remember that some of these lose because of Engine Limitations. Plus, they were porting a Quake Game to GOLDSRC.
@Fallout_Survivor
@Fallout_Survivor Жыл бұрын
TFC has the power But the TF2 Soldier has the charisma lol
@apolloknight9521
@apolloknight9521 Жыл бұрын
More like TFC has the health boost, the TF2 has the damage boost.
@Fallout_Survivor
@Fallout_Survivor Жыл бұрын
@@apolloknight9521 in close ranges, yes, medium they are Kinda in a tie, and long-range tfc lack of damage falloff is insane, especially with the shotguns, it's warframe all over again where shotguns fell more like mini snipers lol
@fantastikboom1094
@fantastikboom1094 8 ай бұрын
@@MariaFlores-KAII Shotgun pellets are easy to dodge? Hit-scan weapon? Ok...
@fantastikboom1094
@fantastikboom1094 8 ай бұрын
@@MariaFlores-KAII And the dude you've replied to was clearly talking about shotguns. Learn to read before replying to someone. ☺
@DragoDuckwave
@DragoDuckwave Жыл бұрын
Holy ravioli is that me who appears on the description???!!!!
@darkreflection9087
@darkreflection9087 11 ай бұрын
RIP Rick May Rocket jump your way to heaven to give god a sensible haircut
@ahbraveconscript997
@ahbraveconscript997 Жыл бұрын
having a lot of rockets make enemy TFC engineer smile
@Sleepy_Cabbage
@Sleepy_Cabbage Жыл бұрын
id love to see the tfc weapons get imported into tf2, maybe with more extreme adjustments to how they worked to make them more distinct from their newer counterparts
@methmanWalt
@methmanWalt Жыл бұрын
Single barrel shotgun would make for a funny fatscout weapon
@user-zw5kt8ik2g
@user-zw5kt8ik2g Жыл бұрын
10:20 A little correction: It's distance between the rocket impact and the shooter at moment of impact.
@Fatih_M177
@Fatih_M177 Ай бұрын
This is such a fun series! I love seeing two of my favorite games being compared! Wonder who's gonna compete next? Engineer? Medic? Hope you continue this series!
@AnnoyD
@AnnoyD Жыл бұрын
Pyro main here, I would like to thank you for giving that phlog pyro a speed boost as he was pushing out. It's little things like this that almost make me revert back into a medic main.
@me_ismeeks
@me_ismeeks Жыл бұрын
new SquimJim upload? YIPPEE!
@nfwrambo
@nfwrambo Жыл бұрын
Speaking of the original original, have you considered comparing the classes to their quake team fortress counterparts?
@franagustin3094
@franagustin3094 Жыл бұрын
Tf2 won in all except maybe in demoman and soldier (qwtf has the original). Demoman in qwtf was offensive like tf2 demo but it has grenades too
@senpai_berries5987
@senpai_berries5987 Жыл бұрын
Hooray!! Its finally back up, glad to see you back
@GrandpaMann1623
@GrandpaMann1623 Жыл бұрын
“If you know what’s best for you, you will run” -Solider TF2
@Rambling-Gamer786
@Rambling-Gamer786 Жыл бұрын
How about next time we do Medic vs Medic instead of comparing damage though we compare heal rates and see which is better? Or maybe overall damage + healing not sure how you would precisely go about that one.
@segadoeswhatnintendont
@segadoeswhatnintendont Жыл бұрын
I think he should take the closest battle from the other classes and check for a medic + other class pair who wins
@nep-nep6575
@nep-nep6575 Жыл бұрын
I think after you cover all of the TFC vs TF2 mercs, maybe do the ones from Quake World: Team Fortress? Some of them from what I’ve seen are fundamentally similar, but at the same time are radically different.
@babyghast4379
@babyghast4379 Жыл бұрын
Oh my gosh, just when I started rewatching the whole tfc vs tf2 series, this comes out!? Talk about timing.
@Neogears1312
@Neogears1312 Жыл бұрын
Spy has always been the most fascinating one for a comparison simply because of how the direct 1v1 would work. Like simply put the invisibility seems like it forces that to be a tie because it’d be impossible to realistically fight them with that in play.
@calebbarnhouse496
@calebbarnhouse496 Жыл бұрын
The match tf2 favored because spy can stay invisible longer, meaning he's more likely to catch tfc out of cloak, and unlocks makes this even more so
@superbrainz2357
@superbrainz2357 Жыл бұрын
​​​@@calebbarnhouse496 Tfc spy doesnt cloak, he plays dead. Also you're underestimating his vastly superior arsenal of gas grenades which would make tf2 spy hallucinate, a dart gun that would cripple 2's movement speed, and a double barrel shotgun that can easily match the revolver. Tf2 spy's best bet is he cloaks away and can catch tfc off guard which isnt happening in a 1v1. Even worse since some knives straight up make spy weaker.
@calebbarnhouse496
@calebbarnhouse496 Жыл бұрын
@@superbrainz2357 l
@apolloknight9521
@apolloknight9521 Жыл бұрын
“Little bit of an upset” …quite an understatement (correction a huge one) considering Soldier is my favorite class in game and having him lose this round hurts. I’m more upset TF2 Soldier lost this round. I was hoping he could win! “Would having his unlocks push the edge for TF2?” Yes… it would if he had his unlocks he would win. You pointed out the Direct Hit could diminished half of TFC Soldier’s Health, especially with the speed of said rocket. It’s going to be a bit hard for me playing when soldier by the reminder he lost to his counterpart. But I’m still going to anyways, because I’ll not let some video comparison discourage me from playing my favorite TF2 Character since most of it is opinion based. You may say Soldier lost, but I and many others, see him win by default. Both heart and soul. While I still disagree with the outcome of this match, I do want to see the other versus you have planned,
@LilMcMoffett
@LilMcMoffett Жыл бұрын
Finally, a new TFCvTF2!
@fudgegorilla
@fudgegorilla Жыл бұрын
I feel like including bunny hopping and grenades (mechanics exclusive to TFC) while excluding any and all unlocks (a mechanic unique to TF2) feels a bit unfair.
@SquimJim
@SquimJim Жыл бұрын
The main goal was to compare default abilities to default abilities. Generally adding unlocks into the mix provides an unnecessary advantage to TF2. Where TF2 overall has more powerful weapons, adding ones with specialized uses tends to skew things. As of right now the TF2 vs TFC videos have been somewhat one sided toward TF2 without the need for any unlocks.
@apolloknight9521
@apolloknight9521 Жыл бұрын
@@SquimJim except this one. I’m still salty with Soldier losing this round because of a health factor.
@TheR3DSniper
@TheR3DSniper Жыл бұрын
TFC Soldier: You should stop, you're bleeding. TF2 Soldier: I don't have time to bleed!
@Mrangrybird-vg1iy
@Mrangrybird-vg1iy Жыл бұрын
feels like the double barrel shotgun is just a alternate weapon.
@sud1881
@sud1881 Жыл бұрын
Nope, it’s a default weapon.
@Mrangrybird-vg1iy
@Mrangrybird-vg1iy Жыл бұрын
@Maria Flores oh, because I felt they should at least include panic attack if other guy has 2 shotguns
@NickolaConagher
@NickolaConagher Жыл бұрын
He is back!
@Chaud31423
@Chaud31423 8 ай бұрын
The Double Barrel Shotgun would probably be a great exclusive shotgun for Heavy
@user-mr4jx9zo5p
@user-mr4jx9zo5p Жыл бұрын
Finally a new video about. Tfc vs tf2 I've been waiting for this episode for so long and that's now here. Let's go.
@yourdm2620
@yourdm2620 Жыл бұрын
ok but why do grenades' and bunnyhop count as free victory for tfc in that case tf2 should have a free win for unlocks as both are a massive part of the game smh.
@engihere5434
@engihere5434 Ай бұрын
Have to let the tfc have something 😂
@spacevegemite7631
@spacevegemite7631 Жыл бұрын
tf2 soldier wins because I say so
@redthefoxthings
@redthefoxthings Жыл бұрын
Wake up babe! After Breakfast uploaded a new tfc vs tf2 video!
@normalperson691
@normalperson691 Жыл бұрын
Been waiting for this, great video as always 👍
@johnnodwarf1201
@johnnodwarf1201 Жыл бұрын
I happened to search "The evolution of tf2" and saw you upload, nice
@DustD.Reaper
@DustD.Reaper Жыл бұрын
Two words...Market Gardener A 195 Garden crit paired with a point blank 112 rocket equal 307 damage, barely enough kill TFC Soldier with it in just a swing and a rocket So in a fight with unlocks for TF2 allowed I think that the Market Gardener alone would be enough to tip the scales slightly towards TF2
@deppo436
@deppo436 Жыл бұрын
Ah but can the TFC Solider strip himself, get doused in honey, and grapple bears to death only with his bare hands???? I didn't think so.
@Dan_the_tinkering_man
@Dan_the_tinkering_man 8 ай бұрын
If you considered unlockables, this fight would’ve ended much differently
@testaccount4830
@testaccount4830 Жыл бұрын
If you do spy you need to put in a gag with the Spy vs Spy theme.
@garrettredding2837
@garrettredding2837 Жыл бұрын
i feel like tfc soldier would run around mid range and use his double barrel for most of his damage, then use grenades for zoning, and his rocket launcher for an emergency escape
@Salemander5000
@Salemander5000 Жыл бұрын
TFC soldier getting killed in less than a second when TF2 soldier hits him with a market garden immediately followed by a point-blank rocket (he was told the odds were in his favor):
@SergeantLouisWalters
@SergeantLouisWalters 17 күн бұрын
As ridiculous as it may sound, The model for TFC double barrel shotgun is technically a double barrel... Because when VALVE made that model for Half-Life they modelled the SPAS-12's magazine tube as a secondary barrel.
@Dexieboi2013
@Dexieboi2013 Жыл бұрын
it actually would be kinda nice to have a shot gun that does better damage at midrange so ye I would advocate for the double barrel shotgun to be added as a new soldier secondary in tf2
@SadToffee
@SadToffee Жыл бұрын
Considering that the comics show the tf2 crew beating the TFC crew Tf2.
@USSNewJerseyLover
@USSNewJerseyLover Жыл бұрын
TF2 soldier just needs to be coated in honey and naked, he's impossible to beat when in that state.
@AbdullahEkiciRealman
@AbdullahEkiciRealman Жыл бұрын
A guy with a Classic Crowbar vs a guy with a WW2 Shovel
@jonahtejedor2138
@jonahtejedor2138 Жыл бұрын
i have been waiting for this for so long
@Goldenleyend
@Goldenleyend Жыл бұрын
Well soldier vs soldier I think is always with rocket jumps and airshots, is it fair to assume that, at equal skill levels, both can hit their airshots even though tfc soldier has a slower rocket making it harder? Also, assuming both play perfectly logically, tf2 soldier would have to approach to be in effective range whilst tfc soldier can retreat just as fast giving tfc the advantage. Idk how grenades mix in given the rocket jumping strats but I imagine every once in a while it would give tfc the edge, having more tools is better than not having them even if they're useless.
@munchkin_mania
@munchkin_mania Жыл бұрын
I love the original original user joke, because tf2 soldiers name is Jane doe
@seezy9445
@seezy9445 Жыл бұрын
Medic vs Medic next
@Dabbba2
@Dabbba2 Жыл бұрын
I was just watching some of your other vids when - BING! New Vid. Second time happening. Cool
@doomfan8603
@doomfan8603 Жыл бұрын
I mean if you are going to give TFC bunnyhopping you should give TF2 all their weapons.
@nean9894
@nean9894 Жыл бұрын
probably could have modded in an exact replica of the tfc soldier and had some people duke it out in an mge setting to get some points for either side
@destinyj.5432
@destinyj.5432 Жыл бұрын
Talking about the best scenerio that could happen with unlocks, Solider does a rocket jump with airstrike and mantrats or how those boots are spelled, and hits every rocket, then Marketgarden tfc solider with damage from boots as well xD
@apolloknight9521
@apolloknight9521 Жыл бұрын
Soldier basically has the advantage with unlocks
@destinyj.5432
@destinyj.5432 Жыл бұрын
yes
@CEO_OF_BELLIC_ENTERPRISES
@CEO_OF_BELLIC_ENTERPRISES 11 ай бұрын
i love TFC gaming some people dont put in the effort to learn TFC its like re learning TF2 in a way learning how to use your grenades and how to utilize your kit in that game and gold source bhopping is fun asfu
@spacecolonyalliances.c.a1234
@spacecolonyalliances.c.a1234 Жыл бұрын
You know, if you where to include the spell book, one of the few extra default items that has no mode restrictions, and the one that it does have being able to be activated at any time, it would be an interesting way to deal with the B-hopping and grenades. Then again, it may be too broken, as that and the unlocks would give TF2 soldier a very large advantage against TFC soldier, but it would be nice to include the default power items.
@kittysmak1799
@kittysmak1799 Жыл бұрын
After almost a year, we finally see more TFC vs TF2…
@JasonSmith-wv5lz
@JasonSmith-wv5lz Жыл бұрын
I'm willing to bet that soldier is all out larger than TFC so a fistfight would be interesting
@apolloknight9521
@apolloknight9521 Жыл бұрын
Soldier literally can go naked and punch so hard that in the process snapped the neck his opponent.
@angeldp2309
@angeldp2309 7 ай бұрын
I cant wait to see the next One of this series
@thelastmlg2699
@thelastmlg2699 Жыл бұрын
tfc soldier watching 31 manthread strength soldiers form a pile on his shoulders
@rockowlgamer631
@rockowlgamer631 Жыл бұрын
Man finally another one of these videos
@DakkaScrappa
@DakkaScrappa Жыл бұрын
also other weapons too if to speculate beggars bazooka: its high dmg and a larger clip makes him deal less shots but its 30% projectile deviation makes it harder to predict on choke points and long hallways escape plan: allows him to retreat faster when needed in a pinch cow mangler: infinite ammo do i say more trolldier: mantreads makes knockback useless and market gardener hits 175 and jumps away before he got the chance to retaliate and by chance goomba stomped him airstrike/base jumper: although easier to be hit but a barrage of rockets, good luck avoiding that
@apolloknight9521
@apolloknight9521 Жыл бұрын
Direct Hit, as mentioned in the video, would take away half of TFC’s soldier’s health due to the high damage output and fast projectile speed of the Rocket. Along with Gunboats to mitigate self-damage from explosions.
@sophisticatedfurret5239
@sophisticatedfurret5239 Жыл бұрын
I used to watch this channel when I started playing tf2 around jungle inferno it’s nice coming back here after 4 years
@sophisticatedfurret5239
@sophisticatedfurret5239 Жыл бұрын
@@AfterBreakfast1WAIT A MINUTE YOUR NOT SQUIM JIM
@sophisticatedfurret5239
@sophisticatedfurret5239 Жыл бұрын
@@AfterBreakfast1NICE TRY FAKER
@2-Way_Intersection
@2-Way_Intersection Жыл бұрын
the double barrel shotgun uses the spas 12 from half life 1 which *does* have a double barrel function.
@nigelxd3735
@nigelxd3735 Жыл бұрын
The reason why I assume the insendiary cannon and Rock luchar haver that dmg inconsistency, is because maybe TFC still has the old removed mechanic of random dmg spread that tf2 used to have
@Dragonslayer-fs8dh
@Dragonslayer-fs8dh Жыл бұрын
9:26 „u got Games on your phone?“
@chookee1080
@chookee1080 Жыл бұрын
TFC soldiers are more disciplined mercenaries. Most of the mercs on TF2 on the other hand are basically sociopaths. Soldier has PTSD, Heavy has a romance with his gun, Demo has his own eye trying to kill him, Pyro is Pyro and Medic treats his own teammates as experiments. Also in the comics(which is canon) and TF2 mercs beat the tfc mercs
@superbrainz2357
@superbrainz2357 Жыл бұрын
Except the tfc mercs were old, sabotaged by medic on the inside bringing sniper back to life, and some of them just wanted to leave.
@disposable_income_andy
@disposable_income_andy Жыл бұрын
I think Soldier could take it if we're going "pro gamer" instead of character-wise. Realistically, Soldier isn't going to use combos as a character, but he will as a player. Switching back and forth constantly from rocket launcher to shotgun/melee could definitely swing it in his favor I think, especially if we're using Panic Attack. and yes i'm coping that tf2 lost here. i'd say it's more 55% to 45% though than 60%-40%
@apolloknight9521
@apolloknight9521 Жыл бұрын
You’re not the only coping with this match comparison. I hate it when Soldier loses.
@ChronicallyOn
@ChronicallyOn Жыл бұрын
I've been waiting for this!
@bounter_
@bounter_ Жыл бұрын
I wonder if Squim will do a 2nd season or such, or a extras video after TFC videos, where he DOES include unlocks.
@darkreflection9087
@darkreflection9087 11 ай бұрын
How did I miss this
@wiggytommy8607
@wiggytommy8607 Жыл бұрын
I can’t wait for Civilian vs. Payload
@Stabbingparrot
@Stabbingparrot Жыл бұрын
legendary series is back BABY
@rker
@rker Жыл бұрын
why is tf2 soldier doing the default fists neutral pose on the thumbnail
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