2025 Chevy Silverado EV Is Now CHEAPER, Has MORE Range, But Is It ENOUGH?

[@haroldhand6124]

I drive 2024 Silverado WT for work. Recently did a 700 mile road trip. Was able to drive 350 mile to my destination. Then did a 28 min stop at Fred Meyer to get snacks for the trip back. I ended the trip with 18% battery left. Total round trip was 698 miles. I did not feel like I had to compromise at all on this trip over my previous 2015 Silverado 2500.

[@virtuserable]

There is no way you drove 698 miles round trip on one charge and had 18% left. Does Fred Meyer have a DC fast charger or something?

[@NMLife22]

@@virtuserable that is what he is saying. Real world range tests have shown they easily get over 400 miles of range per charge.

[@virtuserable]

@@NMLife22 No they didn't say that. "Then I charged for 28 min at Fred Meyer.." would be saying that

[@bambam4537]

People have actually drove almost 500 miles on a single charge with the Silverado ev 4WT ​@@virtuserable

[@virtuserable]

@@bambam4537 That's good but OP said they did a 700mi trip and did not specify if or for how long they charged during that trip.

[@paulrybarczyk5013]

I would want MaxRange + MidGate + SmallWheels. So naturally, that combo is not offered by GM.

[@dpav02]

SAME!

[@tarfeef101]

​@@FlameOnTheBeat so more effort and cost for the end user (you will have to sell at a loss) Great

[@JoeMalovich]

You get out of here with that sense.

​@@JoeMalovichRight? What's wrong with him? Lol.

[@jackylsmith8138]

You can only put wheels on small enough to clear the brakes. So you’ll probably be looking at 18” wheels at the smallest.

[@Ranbuowsatrawarriar]

I just paid $59k cad/$43k usd for a 2024 Lightning XLT. It's dope. I'll use it as my contractor vehicle which i normally spend ~$800/month on fuel.

[@sayidabohussayn7644]

Oh wow where???

[@Yob126]

What city?

[@Ranbuowsatrawarriar]

Interior BC. 75K minus 7k in dealer discount and minus 9k in rebates.

[@Ugot_depaR]

@@Ranbuowsatrawarriar good deal, how do you find the lightning for work? I have a 200+ km commute plus need a truck for supplies. this would be awesome.

[@Ranbuowsatrawarriar]

@@Ugot_depaR it's been great. So smooth and quiet. Such confident acceleration and the one pedal driving is awesome. I really like the ride. I put a nice contractor rack on it and am hunting for a canopy right now. It's awesome. Costs me about 5-7 bucks/day instead of $30-40. Go get one.

[@jefferp]

Almost 500 mile range? Impressive.

[@9663mu]

It’s dodge. Stay put. Gonna be a while and who knows if they go under before.

[@kelviskelvis7140]

@@9663mu He is talking about the 492 mile range already on Chevy's production line. I own the RST FED it is impressive.

[@JogBird]

$21,000 premium over standard range.. impressive... thats a lot of gas

[@spod2011]

......most impressive

[@junehanzawa5165]

Anything over 400 miles are already game changers. And chargers continue to be added at break neck speeds. Especially high speed chargers. Manufacturers are seeing all the billions that Tesla is making selling electricity. You can't beat something you can sell that costs you nothing like solar and batteries once the initial costs are recovered. Which is very quickly when you're selling the power created, not just in savings like home owners with solar.

[@sesmeltz1965]

I have the ‘24 Sierra EV and absolutely love it. I’ve towed a 6k lb trailer 700 miles in one direction, then driven back. Truck is getting a little over 300 miles range towing, 470 miles normally, and charges so fast I haven’t waited even a minute for it yet. It outperforms every single metric GM has claimed for it. Best truck of my life, I’ll never go back.

[@RossMalagarie]

you said you towed 6K ibs trailer for 700 miles and you got 300 miles per charge so how long did it take to charge after going less than half way on your 700mile trip one way?

[@sesmeltz1965]

@@RossMalagarieLike I said, I’ve never waited even one minute for it to charge. I stopped first at a Buccees in Warner Robbins, GA. Plugged in, went to the bathroom and grabbed some snacks. Got back to the truck, unplugged and drove off. No waiting whatsoever. Did the same thing at a Wawa in Yulee, FL. Then I arrived at my destination in central FL and plugged in at the hotel overnight. Did the same trip in reverse to get home except that I charged at a Walmart in Brunswick instead of Yulee so I could buy supplies for my family in GA. I could easily have skipped the second charging stop on the way home, but who doesn’t want to stop at Buccees? A gas truck would also have required at least 2 stops while towing (I actually made a few more, just for bathrooms, not charging) and they wouldn’t have been any faster. They might have actually been slower, since I would have had to stand there filling the gas tank before going inside instead of just leaving the truck while it charged.

[@RossMalagarie]

@@sesmeltz1965 nice it only took you 10mins to fully charge at Buccees nice

[@sesmeltz1965]

@@RossMalagarie depends on what you mean by “fully” charged, but yeah. Buccees takes a little longer to get through the crowds and such but it was roughly 10-15 mins and the truck was at almost 90% charge when I got back to it. It would take a long time to get to 100% but I have no reason to wait for that when I already have more towing range than bladder capacity.

[@RossMalagarie]

@@sesmeltz1965 nice 15min charge for 300 miles towing 6K ibs. Glad the numbers should only get better. Maybe I will consider a hybrid Colorado Trail Boss in 2027

[@InvestBetter.]

They should have named this Avalanche

[@LeeBreece]

The EValanche!

[@jteternal2]

I love price wars, get truck back down to 45 k

[@michaelmackey754]

I got a couple months ago a 2023 Ford XLT lightning standard range battery 58,000 235 miles of range. I pull a 5000 pound enclosed trailer. It drops the mileage down to 158 miles which is pretty accurate and perfect for what I use it for it is the best truck I have ever owned in my life! I love it.

[@redpanda_7008]

Good for you

[@khoatran9482]

Been driving v8's most of my life. Got an Bolt EUV as a run about and for short 150mi trips. I will be trading in my beloved V8 Escalade ESV that i thought i would keep for 20 years when I bought it for an Escalade IQL when they become available.

[@AnonymousFreakYT]

492 miles range! That's about 200 miles between charges when towing on a road trip (charging to 80%.) And if that battery pack can continue to hold the same charge curve as the current, that's still drawing more power at 80% than a Rivian draws peak.

[@guentherwilke2055]

GM seems to think 200mi towing is enough for a gasoline Silverado, too.

[@jghall00]

@@guentherwilke2055 My long wheelbase Expedition gets me around 250 max with my 7K camper. For the fuel savings, 200 miles in an EV seems reasonable if you don't tow long distances frequently. Just need more pull-through chargers.

[@NomenClature-o8s]

@@guentherwilke2055Yeah, but a gasoline truck refuels in 4 minutes anywhere.

[@newscoulomb3705]

@@NomenClature-o8s That 4 minutes is an exaggeration. It takes most gas pumps 4 minutes just to fill a 13-gallon tank in a sedan. It's about double that just to fill up a truck's gas tank, not to mention the fact that after driving for a minimum of 3 to 4 hours, you're not just stopping for fuel any more. Commercial haulers will operate a bit differently (and tow far more frequently) than most people, so they should stick to gas/diesel trucks with extended-range tanks for the time being. But commercial haulers only represent maybe 5% of the fullsize truck fleet that's regularly used for towing, so that corner case really is best left in the corner.

[@NomenClature-o8s]

@@newscoulomb3705 Nice word salad. I own a truck, it takes 5 minutes max, and I can refuel just about anywhere.

[@MrChadx1]

I like Ram's take on a series hybrid better than an all Battery Electric. Why carry around huge and expensive battery pack when most days I drive less than 30 miles and many weekends less than 100 miles a day. When I do tow or do a long road trip, even these HUGE battery packs are not enough and then you have to mess around with horribly unreliable public charging. In those instances, I want the ease-of-use of an ICE vehicle, which you pretty much get with an ICE range extender on a series hybrid. You know when you're towing or going on a long road trip and so you press a button and the range extender starts as soon as your battery range drops a few percent off 100% SOC. It keeps running even when you stop at a rest area or gas station to fuel, which takes 5 or 10 minutes. The combination of a smaller battery and a range extender is lighter than a battery pack 4 times the size needed for a BEV. And, a mass produced generator ICE is also cheaper than all that extra battery than isn't used for the majority of driving days and all that extra battery just adds huge amount of weight to be carried around.

[@vincentrobinette1507]

I would definitely look at this, considering that it's the same price as the same truck in gasoline, and less than the same truck as a diesel.

[@zachlafond2652]

Would prefer a Ranger size truck but for Model Y price. I don't need 2 second 0-60 times.

[@danharold3087]

Many people want 2 motor electric trucks for the 4WD. To get significant saving you will be looking at a single motor RWD truck.

[@Drewcardello]

upvoted.

[@gregpochet4812]

R1Ts are smaller that the Silverado / Ford 150. I have seen them driving around and was shocked at how small they are for a $75k+

[@seanchernobyl2911]

Think a bigger Tocoma....

[@jcautodesign]

7:52 my reservation for a cybertruck allows me to configure a non foundation series version ($79,990) version. Also, the recall is a software fix. Also, it doesn't seem that the mid gate is available for the LT Silverado EV. At least according to the website.

[@papi1700]

Might be difficult to insure. Gieco has shut down insurance for the cyber truck

[@jcautodesign]

@@papi1700 They just released info that they are writing policies for them again. However, I don't use Geico, so it wouldn't affect me anyway.

[@wolfgangpreier9160]

@@papi1700 You have only one insurance company in the US? Interesting...

[@alvilla701]

@wolfgangpreier9160 obviously there is more than one, but if one big insurance company is not accepting the Tesla, then the other insurance will be much more expensive than what it should be for something similar than the Cybertruck

[@wolfgangpreier9160]

@@alvilla701 So you tell me your insurances do not compete against each other? They are a cartell? When they try something like that in Europe it would get expensive for them, very fast. The EU just sued Apple for 11 billion and Google for another 4-5 billion because of that. We have about 20 possible insurances for most types of assets here in our small country with 10 million citizens. All of them must be locals, only some of them are local subsidiaries of larger corporations in other places. The only problem is: Our insurances are generally more expensive than in Germany. I guess because we are less people. Oh well... My Model Y is 165,-- Euros incl. 11% taxes. That is about 180,-- US$ complete with 400,-- deductible. I can not tell you the insurance rate for a CT, there is none here. I am still waiting for mine. Somebody offered one on Autoscout24 for 250.000,-- Euros (272k US$). A real "bargain".

[@St_JohnYam_Steve]

If I were a grocery store owner, I would definitely buy this truck. It would pay itself off just a few rolling blackouts in California. Cost way less than Powerwall.

[@jjgebarowski]

There were no rolling blackouts in California this year. That's pretty much solved with solar + grid battery storage.

[@WW-wf8tu]

You have a lot less expensive options than buying this truck. Natural gas or propane generators will save you tens of thousands of dollars. And at the end of a black out, you don't have to refuel or recharge it.

[@dave3657]

Buy a natural gas backup for the store. We had one where I worked . Plus you can’t drive the truck if it’s tethered to the building.

[@jesualdocortez6426]

Lived in LA Rancho Cucamonga and the high desert, no rolling black outs, the only thing that happens maybe once a year was a the power going out for like 1-5 secs. Sometimes there’s routine maintenance going on in your neighborhood. Nothing that would make me want to take my groceries out the fridge

[@Oilcruzer]

@@FlameOnTheBeatBut it doesn’t. When you price out a large towing vehicle in gas or diesel, and add in a large battery backup like EcoFlow, and factor in fuel costs and lower maintenance, the numbers make sense.

[@RenlangRen]

Wow, did I see almost 500 mile maximum range? Very nice!

[@ColeSpolaric]

The prices are still insane. Battery prices have fallen to an average of $58 kwh. 212kwh would be $12,296. If they would stop adding all these whiz-bang features they might be able to make them more affordable across the range.

[@JoshuaStringfellow1]

Battery prices have not fallen to an average of $58kWh. There is a target for

[@ColeSpolaric]

@@JoshuaStringfellow1 apparently that's for an lfp battery and not lithium ion.... Looks like it's already there and poised to hit $36 next year.

[@davidmccarthy6061]

Which features do you think would not impact sales that the typical buyer doesn't want?

[@ColeSpolaric]

@@davidmccarthy6061 I think the average buyer is willing to not have heated and cooled seats, heated steering wheel, giant infotainment system, a million different cameras, huge rims, and that's what comes to the top of my head.

[@newscoulomb3705]

$58 per kWh would be the cell cost for LFP, not counting the cost to package them as an EV battery. To get these ranges on an inefficient platform like a fullsize truck, GM is using NCMA chemistry cells for their first generation Ultium EVs. While GM is leading the auto industry in battery pack cost, Ultium packs still cost around $100 per finished kWh, which would mean that these battery packs are costing GM between $15,000 and $25,000 to build.

[@erikstephens34]

Battery pack for standard range is 14 module or 119KWh usable. Also the build guides are up on the GM fleet site for all of these. The LT model is standard with 18" but the 22" is optional with the premium package.

[@scotturich]

The good news on the charging front is that the Chevy can charge on the Tesla network now with the GM adapter or Lectron Adapter

[@benblankenburg]

Thank you for the video. Andrey, next time you talk to Silverado designer Nicole Kraatz would you please request that the new model WT (s) have an adjustable height seat? Nothing fancy needed, just basic manual height adjustments to make driving the vehicle safe. With the 2024 WT there is no height adjustment and no option to order another seat. Average size people are sitting on pillows and short people are staring into the odometer. For people under 6' visibility is impaired when operating the vehicle.

[@jakelee5456]

Get bigger. Kidding. You're right. It's a silly thing to not include a manual height adjustment in a truck with a cab that huge

[@troyjhinkle]

Max Range Work truck is the most attractive. Range is most important with EV's.

[@jrghays46]

Not really. Average America commute is 40 miles daily. 250 miles is sufficient. That said, longer ranges are always welcome.

[@JDCheng]

At some point, the rate of charge will matter more. With the newer 350Kw / 800V systems, charging is becoming closer (though not yet equal yet) to an equivalent ICE fueling stop vs the hours it would take with the older 150kW/400W systems.

[@wolfgangpreier9160]

You drive 500 miles twice every day? With a truck? To and from work? When do you sleep?

[@wolfgangpreier9160]

@@jrghays46 250 km is sufficient with a work truck. That is 156 miles. I "want" 350km or 210 miles. But not in a work truck. In my Model Y which i use for long range driving.

[@jrghays46]

@@wolfgangpreier9160 I only speak in freedumb units 🫡 🇺🇸

[@IronmanV5]

I just want them, or Ford, to come out with a mid sized EV truck

[@Jack_Stafford]

And optional with just a single or plus cab, it's ridiculous that all pickup trucks are now 4-door family vehicles when that was the distinct minority not very many years ago. Most cars only have one person in them, it's ridiculous and add so much to the price to add a whole back seat electric windows and other amenities when they are not needed 99% of the time.

[@zacharrywilliams7746]

Colorado ev will probably be next up

[@who2u333]

I would want the MaxRange just to let that big battery backup my house and avoid the need for me to buy a separate home battery backup system. Not sure the numbers would work out though.

[@aquatictn]

Exactly! A question is how much power can flow through the connection to the house, though perhaps GM has provided that info and I have not seen it yet.

[@dave3657]

I would just get the dedicated house backup. It will never ‘brick’ on you in an accident.

[@-----------------------------]

The average car loan in the US is 41k, the comment section always appears to demand prices below the average. Seems like the audience here isn't the market they're targeting or worried about.

[@docdre7872]

Furthermore, if you follow some of the Cybertruck owners who used heavy duty trucks before, some are saving $1k per month because of fuel savings, so the trucks are essentially free over the life of the vehicle. An example can be found at 'Soaring Videos ' titled 'Cybertruck v ATX....'

[@jamespaul2587]

The average price is irrelevant when someone is seeking an entry-level vehicle.

[@TroySavary]

Maybe if they spent more time working and less time whining about prices on KZbin, they could afford one.

[@juanzingarello4005]

@@TroySavaryI’m sorry but if I am looking at a $41k vehicle (and actually I was looking at a $60k vehicle), I expect it to be an all around useful vehicle. At that price, the pros of owning electric over ICE are just not there. 0-60 in under 3 seconds isn’t enough for most car owners buying a car as a need instead of a want full of gimmicks. Until the technology charges as fast as filling up a tank of gas, no extreme variation in range based on temperature, no degradation to batteries, and most importantly, better priced for dealing with these very real inconveniences EVs will never take over ICEs or hybrids. And the sooner politicians and automakers accept that reality, the better we can get at improving the tech or ditching it for better options like hydrogen fuel cell.

[@timmiser]

@@juanzingarello4005 The economics are there for me... It costs me $150 to fill up my truck with fuel. At 0.12/kw it would cost me $25 in electricity to fill up a Silverado EV. The time economics are there also... Charging an EV overnight at home takes me less time than traveling to a gas station to fill up every week. Battery degradation is not a thing as the EV battery will last longer than your ICE engine as has been proven now since EV's have been around over a decade and accumulated 500,000 plus miles and still going fine on their original batteries.

[@newscoulomb3705]

Based on the ranges, the Silverado EV is likely receiving a combination of efficiency and battery improvements. The prices are still really high, but they are coming down. Based on that, my estimate would be that the 5WT is running the ~142 kWh, 16-module pack, which would give it about 310 miles of EPA range, ~1,800 lb payload, and ~14,000 lb towing with all other factors being equal.

[@ervcz]

Will the work truck finally be available to the public or is it still reserved for fleets?

[@jrghays46]

Funny how nobody makes the same complaints for kei trucks as they do for electric trucks regarding towing capacity, range, etc.

[@dougwelch8890]

I tow a 11,000 # 5th wheel around 15k miles a year. My Silverado HD Duramax isn't going to be replaced any time soon. My LTZ wasn't cheap, around $80k, so that's within the range of an EV but the towing capacity just isn't there yet.

[@davidmccarthy6061]

Sure, the specialty vehicles will come later. Right now it is more important to get regular passenger cars transitioned. American is a decade or more away from having enough level 2 plugs where people live, work, and run errands.

[@timmiser]

True on that. I'm also wondering if a 5th wheel will ever be an option for an EV since the battery would interfere with the 5th wheel mounting.

[@newscoulomb3705]

@@timmiser The 5th wheel hitch is mounted over the rear axle, so there's no interference with the battery. The reason the Tesla Cybertruck can't use a 5th wheel or gooseneck is because Elon's crayon-drawn design added fixed-angle sidewalls.

[@danharold3087]

@@davidmccarthy6061 Level 2's are comparatively easy. I expect they will be installed as they are needed.

[@timmiser]

@@newscoulomb3705 Still not sure about that. No rear axle in the Silverado EV, just a rear electric motor. Plus there is no frame (Uni-body) or access to the underside of the bed in the EV truck so not sure how a third party hitch installer would handle that. Maybe if Chevy made it a factory install?

[@hectorgonzalez5030]

I think all 3 companies should go the ram-charger route. Smaller battery that has enough power for most days and a v6 as a power generator when needed or when you can't charge. That way one battery that would have gone into 1 EV now goes into 5 EV's with range extenders. That way we reduce CO2 emissions and build more cars with less battery materials and not have range anxiety

[@damoore9445]

I don't get WHY Chevy hasn't done it yet? They've already got the designs from the Volt! Put that tech in a Colorado / Canyon and other GMC / CHEVY's and they would have the market locked down.

[@jrghays46]

You guys should add a Silverado EV to your fleet

[@Lowkey_Omi]

Are these 2025 models going to come standard NACS port?

[@BPiddy405]

I'm hoping so!

[@miboring2]

Please!!!!

[@nikonmark37814]

I currently drive a midsize 2024 Nissan Frontier and would love to see a midsize EV truck in the under $50,000 range, a large full size EV truck will not fit in my garage and because of all the cats in my neighborhood I don't park outside of my garage.

[@davids1816]

If you answered any of this over the course of the video I'm still watching, then I apologize: How big is the battery in the mid-range model? Does the mid-range model have the higher power-output of the RST? (that's preferable). Do any of them offer the $7500 rebate? That would help a lot. Could they PLEASE make the work truck with heated seats and a heated steering wheel. That lets you use the heater less and extend range and still be comfortable (I have a chevy Bolt and a Model 3 Performance, so I have some experience). The mid-level is very attractive because the black plastic isn't painted so it won't get beat up and it still has the mid-gate which is a really cool feature.

[@timmiser]

As far as the tax credit goes, as long as the MSRP is $80,000 or less, it would qualify for the $7500 federal tax credit.

[@davids1816]

@@timmiser I wasn't sure if that was the price point for ev trucks, thanks.

[@rvboyett]

I've been very happy with my gen 1 Rivian but I can see myself trading for the Chevy when it comes with that kinda of range.

[@davidmccarthy6061]

What is your daily miles right now? Don't imagine some pretend max range that you'll never drive, what is it in real life today?

[@Resist4]

I like how you said they recalled 27,000 Cybertrucks but didn’t say what it was for. A little negative bias against Tesla perhaps?

[@colegreene2153]

THANK YOU FOR INCLUDING DESTINATION. It makes no since when they exclude it..

[@DrKellieOwczarczak]

Glad I did not get that RST just yet. Really, would like to get the Sierra EV, but not Denali. Elevation would be plenty adequate. Give me 12,000 trailer or more, and our needs would be met.

[@ChiDang-ni3qz]

The work truck is the one that should have a mid gate. There are times when I like not having to haul my trailer when needing a few 2x4x10 or 2x6x10

[@enfermeriaenUSA]

Cybertruck is now available to order on the $70k all wheel drive option for early reservations. It seems all will go down as it should.

[@jaceljara5652]

My issue with the truck is how low the belly aka the battery hangs from the truck. The packaging of the battery honestly leaves a lot to be desired.

[@danoberste8146]

Have y'all heard any word on which versions of the Silverado have the 4-wheel steering? That's a feature I want due to the reduced likelihood of causing dangerous tail whip from evasive maneuvers while towing an RV. I however have NO INTEREST is the mid-gate. As we saw with the Chevy Avalanche, the mid-gate will invariably begin to rattle and eventually require you to park facing uphill whenever rain is forecast when the seals get damaged or begin to deteriorate. The mid-gate is less than worthless to me, it's a feature that decreased the value in my opinion. I can imagine that I'd only use it on two... maybe three occasions in the 10 years I typically own a vehicle. My ideal set up would have: 4WS, Adaptive Air Suspension, Lane Keeping and Adaptive Cruise Control.

[@CrumResearch]

Strange that Roman and Andre don't know or didn't say that the non-Foundation Cybertruck has started shipping, for $20K less. Initially limited to those with reservations, by e-mail invitation. Nice to see mass manufacturing and significantly lower prices. Now bring on the Ramcharger for comparison and flexibility with its 130kW generator Pentastar gas engine.

[@kenmcclow8963]

When the smaller more dense next gen batteries arrive around 2027-8, you will start to see more viable electric motorcycles. I think GM is going the right direction with putting more range into EV trucks, but also producing a variety of ranges. Some people want to haul stuff so a heavy truck with long range is going to suffer in payload. I am towing a small trailer, so I’m happy with range. I just wish the charge port was on the front for towing. If enough pull through fast chargers appear then it won’t matter

[@danharold3087]

This is only good for GM if they can produce these trucks at a profit. So far they have yet to do that on any BEV.

[@daves1646]

On the range #’s, until GM says what changed - whether they improved equipment (inverter efficiency for example), increased % of pack energy available, or just are using a more ‘Tesla-like’ approach to EPA range calculation, who knows what to make of it. Could just be an increase that’s not attainable, or is attainable only in perfect conditions.

[@robertn2951]

When will the Suburban EV coming out? I am witing for it since forever!

[@jlogic5851]

As of 10/3 79K Cybertrucks are now being sold. No update on Federal Tax Credit though, it is not available at point of sale on their site at check out. IF it ever qualifies, then 7500 + 5k state off, sale price would be around 67.5k which isn't horrible, but better then 80 or 100k which is too much.

[@timmiser]

You didn't mention in the video but the max towing range was also increased from 10,000 lbs. to 12,500 lbs. (This is stated on my reservation email)

[@newscoulomb3705]

Was that for the RST or the Sierra EV Denali? The 3WT has had a 12,500 lb towing capacity since release, which appears to be tied to the 180 kWh pack.

[@timmiser]

@@newscoulomb3705 It says in the small print that is for the "extended range work truck" so maybe that is nothing new.

[@newscoulomb3705]

@@timmiser Okay, so maybe it is new. My understanding is that the "extended range" WT refers to the 4WT, which did originally have a 10,000 lb towing capacity.

[@timmiser]

@@newscoulomb3705 Got some more clarity on this. 12,500 lb towing capacity will be available on the LT model.

[@BigWheelFab]

I have a big question that I have never seen answered. I use my truck as an office for work. I drive roughly 120mi a day and my truck is running from 6am until 6pm can this be done in an EV? 25% pavement, 25% gravel and 50% dirt. AC or heater running all day.

[@bonustimeslots]

Easily. But your fuel cost savings will vary depending on your utility rates or access to free charging. We have pretty good access to free charging and have only spent $750 in 37,000 miles.

[@BigWheelFab]

@@bonustimeslots I spend $250 a week on diesel.

[@bakedbrotatoes]

I have an EV truck, it's incredibly nice to be able to run climate control for days without running the engine and making no real dent in charge. I run my camper for weeks off the 240v 30A outlet in the bed. No maintenance, EV powertrains last forever, and can be much cheaper if you create at home (plus more convenient). If you tow anything lot locally, or you road trip 300+ miles one way more than once a month, or road trip 1000+ miles more than once every 6 months I definitely wouldn't get one.

[@BigWheelFab]

@@bakedbrotatoes I have put 10000mi on my truck in the last 3mo and make 650mi trips 6 to 8 times a year pulling a travel trailer.

[@danharold3087]

Should be no problem with these big battery trucks. My expectations is that you would only use 1/2 the battery. See if GM will let you take a demonstrator out for a day. Failing that rent one from Turo.

[@aaammm1033]

It's exciting the trucks are starting to get good. Pretty soon we should see 600 to 700 mile range at a decent price.

[@roderickhance2088]

Would love to see you guys kick that cyber truck down the road and buy a Silverado EV and put that thru its paces.

[@Julien.adventure]

What about the Sierra Ev 2025 model list and price ?

[@troyjhinkle]

Ford needs to focus on improving range.

[@Drewcardello]

was waiting for this comment. Ford desperately needs faster charging or better range to keep the lightning relevant. It hasn't has an update in 3 years now.

[@darpompie4354]

Although, I somewhat agree with you, as a lightning owner, I don't really have a problem with range. Does adding another 1000 lbs of battery to get another 100 miles (50 towing) really solve anything. What I think is more important is charging speeds. I would rather have a lighter 300 mile range that I can charge up in 5min then a heavy 400 mile range that takes an hour to charge up. At this time, EV trucks are great for contractors or people that don't do long range stuff very often. If you do a lot of long distance towing, then don't get any EV truck yet, As I said the Silverado does not miraculously solve the problem. In fact it makes things worse. For the use cases it's good at, the average distance travelled is less than 100 miles per day. So paying extra and losing efficiency hauling a heavy battery you don't need does nothing. I am sure in time things will keep getting better but again, its not really the range that is the problem, its charging speeds and infrastructure.

[@Josh-179]

Upon the Lightning's release, Ford had said they wouldn't chace range by throwing in massive packs the way GM is doing now. Looks like they haven't changed their tune. I still kind of expected at least a minor bump to maybe 350 miles after GM released theirs. No doubt Ford could fit another module under there. A more important change would have been an 800 volt architecture for much faster charging but you have to do that from the beginning of vehicle development so we'll have to wait for the next generation Lightning.

[@Foxtrot2312]

Will the LT get 4 wheel steering? Important for something so darn long!

[@Josh-179]

@@Foxtrot2312 , betting it won't. GM hasn't listed the feature content of the LT yet or even showed the interior. I imagine LT is in line with Ford's XLT trim.

[@JimmyShields-z2h]

Here in Australia the EV F150 been sold through non Ford dealer where they get converted RHD there demo truck on 35 is doing just over 500kms with range. Unfortunately their truck after conversion is over $200,000. At 57,000 if could get financial loan maybe yes but gas has drop here where cost the same as charging up.

[@regandamien]

I put down $100 for silverado EV. When they wanted to sell it at price double I was expecting, I simply cancelled it. I feel that these prices are still crazy.

[@lifeisgood12341]

Limited edition for cybertruck is a way for them to avoid crash testing at least for a little while longer

[@gregnorton3718]

Holding out for a midsize - affordable - EV pickup (Ranger/Colorado/Canyon.....) with some Offroad chops. Maybe a Rivian R2 when it's available....

[@stephensalt6787]

In the Uk many EVs are failing their 3 or 4 year inspection due to brake failure. Regenerative braking means a lot of drivers hardly use the friction brakes and come the MOT ( Ministry of Transport) test they fail and have to have the brake system overhauled or replaced. Thus negating any saving on fuel. Plus on the road charging costs up to 89pence per kWh or $1*10c which makes EVs more expensive than petrol or diesel.

[@timmiser]

Why would the brakes fail if they are barely being used? That doesn't pass the smell test...

[@stephensalt6787]

@@timmiser rust matey, it rains a lot in England. See Barrie Cramptons videos on this very subject. I work for a distribution company and the trailer brake discs have to be replaced every two years because the exciter rings are so corroded that the ABS can no longer function.

[@ElMistroFeroz]

Seems to me that’s a failure of the ministry. If the brakes are so useless they rusted away due to non use, perhaps that’s a hint that they need to update their requirements. But then again you can’t expect much from government agencies.

[@chiplangowski3298]

All vehicles require preventive maintenance. If an owner of an ICE car doesn't change the oil in 4 years, that car will likely have problems too. A valid argument might be that EVs are so reliable that people forget that maintenance is needed.

[@timmiser]

@@stephensalt6787Well, it rains a lot in Seattle where I’m at and we don’t have that problem here with EVs. EV brakes don’t go completely unused, they are still used enough to keep rust from forming on the braking surfaces.

[@croatoan1985]

Andrei Cybertruck already cut price...it's available, but not for all. I have reserve and already order for 72500$ - delivery Cybertruck will be at November 2024. You missed this news

[@walterbright1396]

Don’t knock it till you try it. For long distance heavy duty towing, EV may not make sense for quite some time, decades maybe. But for what most people do with an F150, EV makes lots of sense. I drove one. It was great. But 320 mile range is inadequate. 400-500 mile range is sweet. Hopefully learning curve will bring the cost down as it does in other mass production once they figure it out. Hopefully sooner rather than later.

[@Ashphinchtersayswhat]

How does it do in freezing temps, snow and ice? Anyone know?

[@LakeLake123]

Standard Range WT likely uses the new 14-module Ultium pack recently introduced for the Chevrolet BrightDrop. Somewhere around 120kWh.

[@newscoulomb3705]

I think the 14-module pack is unique to BrightDrop (though they are now Chevy, I suppose). The more likely is a 16-module pack with ~140 kWh of usable capacity. That would also align with GM's strategy of focusing on 300+ mile EVs for the retail market.

[@LakeLake123]

@@newscoulomb3705The rumor I heard is the 16-module double-stack pack got dumped because the voltage was too low. It was going to get the higher voltage 2P12S alternate Ultium module to make the total pack voltage work. GM apparently canned that alternate 2P12S module during the module assembly problems earlier. Again, just the rumor I heard. We’ll see! I’m wondering what the VISTIQ will get. I was thinking the 14-module pack too(??). Wonder if that fits in the extended wheelbase BEV-3 chassis (extended from Lyriq) it’ll ride on 🤔

[@newscoulomb3705]

@@LakeLake123 I only heard that the 2P assembly was delayed, not necessarily canceled. That's why every configuration released so far was limited to 12 and 10 module configurations. Also, we haven't seen the half-size modules yet, so it's possible that we see "9" and "18" module configurations that include two half-modules. Those could still be 3P, but with ~330 V nominal pack voltage.

[@LakeLake123]

@@newscoulomb3705ahh, very interesting! Thank you

[@sonofagun1037]

If it looked more like a silverado and less like an oversized equinox with a bed id be tempted. The attached bed is still a huge demerit for me though.

[@LeeBreece]

There has to be a segment of folks here just wanting GM to release the dam trucks so they can start deprreciating enough for folks to buy in 2-5 years. Hopefully an EV truck war would lead to more offerings by automakers, namely more practical trucks/vans in the work truck segment (I'm looking for an 8ft bed over here).

[@jakjakjakjakjak]

Does the lt with the premium package still get the $7500 off for federal ev credit? Without destination it is still under $80k

[@nathanbrumbaugh8545]

If a truck was my main vehicle, I would’ve already bought one I drive vans mostly so I’m waiting on 15 passenger vans to have this type of battery in them or this type of range no matter what the battery needs to be bigger. Of course the truck is very impressive, nothing at all about this truck would be negative for me to own one

[@2018tundra]

I don’t like the dashboard for the money and the look of avalanche bed .

[@Rick-vg2pz]

How long do the batteries last? What does is cost to replace batteries, where do the bad batteries go? Do tires wear faster due to weight of vehicle? Will extra weight of vehicle damage roads easier than lighter vehicle? How much is the insurance, resale? Trade in? What damage is done to the earth to make the batteries? How long to charge? How much to charge? Where to charge? Warranty?

[@hanstubben]

Electric is still far away for me here in Brazil. The range of my Ranger is more than 500 miles on Diesel, and fill it up in a 10 minute stop, that with time to grab a coffee.

[@wolfgangpreier9160]

I pity you. 800 km one way takes at least 12-14 hours. I recommend using Coke bottles for your pee.

[@danharold3087]

Depends on how far you drive each day. Net says you have off peak rates. Plug in every night and spend zero time at the gas or charging station for most people.

[@davidmccarthy6061]

That's why max range is not nearly as important as the vehicle charge rate and curve.

[@hanstubben]

@@danharold3087 Normally when I go visit my clients, I make some 2,800 miles in two weeks. Sometimes between some cities where I can fill up is more than 170 miles, also electric charge station are mostly nonexistent in Brazil.

[@danharold3087]

@@hanstubben Your a traveling salesman serving rural clients. Yeah I'd stay with an ICE. I was thinking you were going home each evening. In which case it would work very well. Information is king.

[@gixxerpsycho]

I have a 2018 Silverado EV and test drove the new 24 Silverado EV RST, and almost traded in my current truck on the spot. If it wasn’t for other life situations it would have happened.

[@waynewallace2061]

Is the depreciation for these trucks similar to other EV;s?

[@flyinglow639]

Chevy is doing the usual where a lot of the equipment you want is in expensive packages that include things you don't want. Example: LT doesn't have 4 wheel steer, you have to go to the RST. To get the midgate you have to order the Premium package which includes the glass roof and stupid 22" wheels (thankfully, they aren't 24s). The range difference between the LT with 18" wheels and 22" wheels is 18 miles and the range difference between a max range 24 module WT on 18s vs the RST max range is 32 miles, so why does GM jam the big wheels down our throats? Let us spec the trucks we want. At least the 20 module battery LT gets 1800 lb payload and 12500 lb towing which is class leading at the moment. Trail Boss may be the sweet spot but no news on it yet.

[@danieldenney5847]

It looks like the cheaper LT trim will not have a mid gate. Which sucks. I hope they change their mind on that. They have the smaller battery pack and the difference in range is due to the fact that the one with more range has smaller wheels.

[@dpav02]

Actually invites have gone out for the non-foundation series. Of course Tesla will gladly take your extra $20k and get you a Foundation Series ASAP (I believe even if you did not reserve one) but non-foundation orders are extremely limited. They’re going back to the top of the reservation list.

[@danharold3087]

The number of non Foundation trucks going to people on the reservation list is likely (production - new_foundation_orders) Now that the prices are out for things included in the Foundation package the $20K sounds a bit better. That may generate a few more Foundations sales. That and ASAP delivery.

[@cxt153]

Looks like Tesla is showing no more Fountain series. I can order the $79k version and get $7k FSD special offer. I may have to go team Cybertruck, it's the cheaper option with the bells and whistles.

[@RidingandWrenching]

Huge battery. How long does it take to charge?

[@Cavemol5823]

Close still don’t see lot units being moved no mid gate on standard … oof if they want move units and lure companies to buy this they need add mid gate as standard option

[@ryan6391]

EV trucks are great. Problem I see is they are not profitable to produce so the manufacturer will not ramp up production and the dealers don't want to sell them because they can't make money from maintenance.

[@jedboulton4643]

Can we even buy a silverado WT model? or is still fleet only?

[@mickeymcintire7621]

I may toss my CT for this vehicle. The CT I ordered was 77K for 500 miles. This truck has everything except the look. I think it's a big winner. Test drive soon.

[@Ugot_depaR]

cyber truck only gets 500km not miles... 500 miles with the range extender which bring the price to double that of a 4wt silverado..trash.

[@bartdeking]

It might be better to look at the actual truck cost instead of the price you might be able to buy them for now. The cost will chase the purchasing price. If the cost is to high you either wont be able to buy it as they will keep production low or they will go bankrupt. How much is the truck worth if GM is bankrupt? What about warranty?

[@brettsuydam7457]

Needs to be cheaper on the used market for me to get one. I’m still waiting to see the ram charger, but that’s going to be crazy expensive used too.

[@Victic005]

The $80K Cybertruck is out. It's the best-selling truck.

[@davidbeppler3032]

GM just stopped the Ultium battery project. The next Silverado's will have more range than the ones they are selling today and they will cost less. Best to wait until then to buy one. That or buy a Cybertruck.

[@TheNinjaKnight1]

The Ram Charger will be the game changer if it is priced right.

[@steven4315]

It's been a long time since Stellantis has priced anything right.

[@seanchernobyl2911]

Funny, truck channel, NO mention of GMC Sierra 1500 EV, its out NOW, which is twin of the Silverado EV???

[@silveradodedel]

How long to charge the battery?

[@RezandJen]

The range is impresive but the price and styling isn't. The Silverado makes the Rivian and Lightning look like a good deal. Did it switch to NACS?

[@NoharaLoco-gw8ld]

I'm gonna be real, I would only be interested if they made a hybrid version that used a gas engine as a generator and cut most of the heavy battery out. I would honestly be down for a phev version of this but nobody has had the cajones to do one in a full size truck yet. Edit: being realistic about EV's is not being anti-EV. Too many people make that error. There are very real limitations to EV's and the technology has some major drawbacks that need to be addressed before it is really ready to replace internal combustion. (the biggest of these are the extreme lack of infrastructure and necessary energy production as well as the horrible safety record of the batteries that is being hidden and overlooked by those pushing for them.) I'm confident that once they get more development and our society shifts technologically to support them then we will see EV's become the norm. Until then, I believe the next logical step is the hybrid system where the internal combustion engine is only used to charge the electronics and batteries. That will bridge the gap and allow us to further change our infrastructure to support full electric and continue developing better systems and batteries. Trying to simply push full electric is not only not feasible it's impossible with the current tech and infrastructure. Between rare earth element batteries and our primary energy supply coming from coal (do the real math and you will see that yes, EV's do have a higher emissions output than comparable IC vehicles, data is available directly from the EPA if you just look and don't go off what some talking head on the TV claims) and being completely inadequate to meet the energy needs of even a fraction of our transportation, it's simply not attainable. We need better energy production (Nuclear is our best option and nuscale type reactors are the way toward that clean energy), and we absolutely have to develop a safer and cleaner battery / energy storage system. Doing a hybrid moves us one step closer to that.

[@evo1video]

I saw one this weekend. I like it but I also like the avalanche.😅

[@Jim-fp3kt]

Maybe it’s just me but I still can’t stomach these electric truck prices. I am fortunate enough to afford one these things as I find them extremely desirable however I have other places I think I will spend my cash. Fortunately the 2012 Silverado 4x4 I bought new only costs me the normal consumables.

[@dustins965]

Work truck must have: #1 long range incase need to tow, no one wants to wait 1hr to charge #2 high towing capacity 10k+ #3 high payload 2500+ #4 low price, take out luxury bells and whistles

[@wolfgangpreier9160]

You are talking about a Semi. Not a measly little pickup truck.

[@danharold3087]

The larger the battery the long it takes to charge. The larger the battery the less range you get per each KWh.

[@wolfgangpreier9160]

@@danharold3087 There has to be a balance between battery size and weight, range and use case for the specific vehicle. A Semi, A tesla or a Iveco have 700+ km range. That is all fine and dandy. They can carry 22-26 tons of cargo. Depending on trailers and country. That is plenty enough for 99% of all demands in this weight range. A mid sized truck, e.g. a Mercedes or Volvo 7.5 ton can carry up to 3 tons of cargo and tow up to 10 tons for up to 300km or 180 miles. that is plenty enough for 99% of all That is plenty enough for 99% of all demands in this weight range. A CT with a 123 kWh battery can carry up to a ton or 4 tons of trailer for 180 miles or 300km. That is good for more than 90% of all demands for this low weight range. My Y with its 75 kWh battery can carry 5 people with their baggage for at least 350km or 210 miles - in high winter, on snowy roads, in strong winds. That is enough for 100% of its weight range.

[@newscoulomb3705]

Outside of #3, those are all already true. For a 2,500 lb payload capacity, you're unfortunately not going to get that in an EV truck that also has any sort of reasonable towing range (e.g., the Cybertruck and Lightning both have variants with 2,500+ lb payload, but they also both have

[@wolfgangpreier9160]

@@newscoulomb3705 2500 lbs equals 1.1 tons. i recommend the Ford E-Transit 390.or the Mercedes eSprinter with the large battery.

[@niceguyrides]

Midgate should be standard, especially in a WORK truck where you need a longer bed…. 🙄

[@drnick40]

Nothing beats the Diesel Truck!

[@wolfman9999999]

IDK. Trucks have become stupid expensive. My 2015 Colorado Z71 Trail Boss is paid for, and it's not a daily driver, so it's hard to justify getting rid of it, especially as it still has less than 50k miles on it. Maybe if something causes it to be written off, but not before.

[@drnick40]

Between Ford and Chevy I’d pick the Chevy, because it is not a converted platform but a ground up new design, more efficient and with greater range.

[@MatthewSerta1]

I might consider a GMC Sierra EV at 80…. Not the current MSRP of 99,500 For that I’m going cybertruck

[@ALRinaldi]

Tesla did go back to the reservation list to begin offering the non-Foundation AWD too early reservation holders for the $79,990 price.

[@paulcook1657]

What about insurance? I heard insurance companies are dropping the cyber truck.

[@collinsimmons7156]

The question is the extra money is it worth the extra range I would say yes it be interesting to what Roman and Andre thinks 🤔