Tacoma Trailhunter vs Ranger Raptor vs Razor Rocks vs Our Most GRUELING Off-Road Challenge!

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@atvrepairsandmore2482
@atvrepairsandmore2482 2 ай бұрын
I’d take the Ranger all day. Cheaper and it’s a v6 making some good power. Hard to beat that IMO. Not having a locker on the Tacoma is a big mistake for a truck called the “trail hunter”.
@jeffrey88888
@jeffrey88888 2 ай бұрын
Yeah the Ranger Raptor has been proven worldwide even in rural jungles in SE Asia. Took a while to come to North America.
@T_81535
@T_81535 2 ай бұрын
​@@jeffrey88888😆😆😆
@JerryRichards-l1d
@JerryRichards-l1d 2 ай бұрын
yota nation has been begging for a front locker since 06. Toyota: "naw, but here's your air compressor"
@kingavegarage8722
@kingavegarage8722 2 ай бұрын
@@JerryRichards-l1d so true!
@phantom0456
@phantom0456 2 ай бұрын
Ford also just came out with an available tune for the Ranger and Bronco Raptors that boosts the output of the 3.0 TT V6 to 455hp and 536lb-ft of torque for only $825, which is a massive gain in torque and a noticeable increase in horsepower for very little money, especially since it doesn’t affect the warranty.
@ryankunkel8247
@ryankunkel8247 2 ай бұрын
On paper that's more than stock F150 Raptor. Impressive.
@a36538
@a36538 2 ай бұрын
That tune also changes the transmission shifting and allows bigger tires to be calibrated
@Mursedave
@Mursedave 2 ай бұрын
It’s gonna be a rocket!
@warthogbraptor
@warthogbraptor 2 ай бұрын
@@2011buddylee Thats my concern on my Braptor. I want it, but I also purchased a 125k warranty that I don't want to lose.
@bigd2256
@bigd2256 2 ай бұрын
Where can I get the tune?
@j4yp3r
@j4yp3r 2 ай бұрын
$10k+ more at the minimum for the Toyota? Use the $10k to get better accessories for the Ranger and it surpasses the Tacoma. Also the front locker on the Ranger alone is worth at least $2k after market install. Ranger Raptor all day long.
@NomenClature-o8s
@NomenClature-o8s 2 ай бұрын
And JD Powers rated Ford as 18th in reliability in major brands. Now tell us how bad you hate JD Powers.
@j4yp3r
@j4yp3r 2 ай бұрын
@@NomenClature-o8s - I've seen all the recent videos about the newer Toyota releases this past year. Engines needing replacements, Tacoma lacking front bump-stops and breaking top-hat shock mount, even TFLs first outing of the Tacoma breaking a front diff on a little rock and Toyota claiming its "designed to fail". Go peruse KZbin and search "24 Tacoma breaks" to see the myriad of newer overpriced Toyota junk. Stop being a Toyota keyboard warrior. You get no prizes man, let it go.
@j4yp3r
@j4yp3r 2 ай бұрын
@@NomenClature-o8s - reviews are based on older gen Toyotas. These new ones are a lot less reliable and overpriced based on its legacy of reliability. Too many issues out the gate with the line of 2024 new model Toyotas..
@NomenClature-o8s
@NomenClature-o8s 2 ай бұрын
@@j4yp3r It’s a 2023 report. Very recent. It’s the old “yeah but the news ones are bad” excuse.
@NomenClature-o8s
@NomenClature-o8s 2 ай бұрын
@@j4yp3r Nope, the JD Powers review was 2023. Very recent. Ford is the industry leader in 2024 recalls.
@smittysmitty481
@smittysmitty481 2 ай бұрын
I will take the Ranger because it has better tech, suspension with the live valve 2.0 Fox Shocks, more back seat leg room, & it’s $12k less expensive than the Trail Hunter
@adrianhosein7698
@adrianhosein7698 2 ай бұрын
Give it 5 years, that Ford will be broken beyond repair 😂😂
@apollo9261
@apollo9261 2 ай бұрын
@@adrianhosein7698 Unfortunately same with the new Toyota, old Toyota would smoke both of these.
@paulwatson4189
@paulwatson4189 2 ай бұрын
@@adrianhosein7698 I think the toyota so far has a bad record with both auto/manual transmissions along with it diff. breaking in the other truck. The ford zero problems.
@RevViewHQ
@RevViewHQ 2 ай бұрын
The live Valve is huge, I wish Toyota did that. But the Trailhunter has a Pure Sine 2400w inverter, air compressor and metal number and armor. Ranger is comparable to a PRO, they aren’t made to go where the Trailhunter does.
@krasnaludek298
@krasnaludek298 2 ай бұрын
Agree 👍🏻
@zachowens1412
@zachowens1412 2 ай бұрын
"The truck is telling me we have a trailer." "I'm pretty sure we don't but i could be wrong" LOL That was great.
@krashnpa
@krashnpa 2 ай бұрын
That looked like it was a lot of fun! I like the Taco's Aux features, but I'd have to go with Ranger Raptor between the two; it just seems like a better package. Thanks, gents!
@plus790
@plus790 2 ай бұрын
I don't *want* things like powered tailgates--just more expensive parts to fail. Kind of the same thing with stuff like the bed side lights. Why? The Toyota's frame-mounted rock rails are fundamentally better, the compressor is a really nice feature, and the high output electrical could be useful (IF it doesn't add too much weight). I like the tailpipe location better too. But overall, I'll take the Raptor's capability and comfort every day of the week...and that's not even considering the sizeable price difference. It's strange to call any $58k vehicle a bargain, but compared to all the competition...it definitely is.
@samtaylor9932
@samtaylor9932 2 ай бұрын
Exactly. I know it's their job to point out differences, but I feel automotive journalists amplify the idea that these features are wanted over affordable prices.
@bradhaines3142
@bradhaines3142 2 ай бұрын
agreed on the power tailgate. its just annoying and in the way. put some stout hinges and call it good. but the bed side lighting is super handy in the dark, doesnt really add complication and if it goes bad just change a bulb out.
@chadgodfrey4364
@chadgodfrey4364 2 ай бұрын
Tommy and Kase did a wonderful job on this video
@jayrichards3672
@jayrichards3672 2 ай бұрын
Thanks for the correct spelling....Tommy's at least JK
@anthonyc1883
@anthonyc1883 2 ай бұрын
Kase's name is correct with a K, no?
@TonyC300
@TonyC300 2 ай бұрын
@@anthonyc1883 Yes, it's KASE, Not Case.
@ryanb6658
@ryanb6658 2 ай бұрын
Are they boyfriends?
@richfarfugnuven6308
@richfarfugnuven6308 2 ай бұрын
​@@ryanb6658no...
@stevekam5243
@stevekam5243 2 ай бұрын
Great to see you guys putting these trucks to the test. It is way more than what the general consumer would be doing but it's good to know the limit.
@DoctuhJ
@DoctuhJ 2 ай бұрын
I feel like the fact that the desert running truck beat the trail trim truck at the first obstacle is quite telling. That front locker was no joke. Combined with the powertrain and price difference... I'd have the ranger for overall capability. We'll see if this Tacoma has the same durability as the past tho!
@laythhorrex5220
@laythhorrex5220 Ай бұрын
Yes interested to see desert versions
@shiftmotorsports9803
@shiftmotorsports9803 2 ай бұрын
Crawl control eventually worked, but no comparison to selectable lockers
@carholic-sz3qv
@carholic-sz3qv 2 ай бұрын
lol.... its a much better system overall
@shiftmotorsports9803
@shiftmotorsports9803 2 ай бұрын
@carholic-sz3qv no it isn't. The video showed that, but tell yourself whatever helps you sleep better
@jcurbin305
@jcurbin305 2 ай бұрын
​@shiftmotorsports9803 Atrac on Toyotas is what does the job of a front locker. Crawl control is for rookies that let the car drive itself.
@shiftmotorsports9803
@shiftmotorsports9803 2 ай бұрын
@jcurbin305 same difference. Traction control is no comparison to a real selectable locker. Less drama and more driver control
@pedrolahoz
@pedrolahoz 2 ай бұрын
Congrats on this video! You went right into the action without going into repeated explanations about the equipment, location, trip to get there etc etc
@j_c332
@j_c332 2 ай бұрын
It's so wonderful to see the next generation of reviewers carrying on the TFL legacy. Passing down the torch of automotive enthusiasm is truly inspiring!
@TroutandTacos
@TroutandTacos 2 ай бұрын
Tacoma Fan Boy here. I bought a 2006 taco Off Road in 2005. I just bought a 23 Taco Off Road. I would trade the taco for the Raptor in a heart beat
@mattwaldo4500
@mattwaldo4500 2 ай бұрын
Then why did you buy a taco??
@TroutandTacos
@TroutandTacos 2 ай бұрын
@@mattwaldo4500 14 months ago
@TroutandTacos
@TroutandTacos 2 ай бұрын
@@mattwaldo4500 Because the Ranger Raptor was not out and 55+ is a bit steep. I got my Taco for 41K
@Mycameron2323
@Mycameron2323 2 ай бұрын
​@@TroutandTacos😂
@driftx2
@driftx2 2 ай бұрын
why would you buy the 23 over the 24. 24 is so much more refined
@retiredafce3373
@retiredafce3373 2 ай бұрын
I’m a huge Toyota fanboy. But Toyota has failed with their Tundra and Tacoma! I like the Ranger better!
@HiPlains1
@HiPlains1 2 ай бұрын
Biggest thing they have to fix ASAP is using a stronger steel top hat instead of that chessy cast aluminum one that blows up with the shock busting into the wheel wheel. Such a horrible design. Better yet use a frame mounted one like they have been doing for DECADES. Also need to use a proper transmission inter cooler to avoid the diff overheating. Not all impressed with that 8 speed either. Many getting that "hard shifting" or total transmission failure that can only be fixed with a new transmission. Even if this truck was priced competitively I would not buy it. Very suspect reliability. Then they hike the prices far above the competition and it makes my decision really easy. Raptor if you can find one at MSRP. Otherwise ZR2 all day long. I also prefer the multimatic suspension. Best riding off roader on tar sealed roads.
@retiredafce3373
@retiredafce3373 2 ай бұрын
@@HiPlains1 yeah I agree. The ZR2 is a lot of truck for the money and IMO looks better than the Ford.
@Slammingutz
@Slammingutz Ай бұрын
💯 agree. The Nissan Frontier is also a really well built truck.
@eliteexposure5594
@eliteexposure5594 2 ай бұрын
I was a Toyota guy all my life until recently when theyre all i4 turbos. Ranger ftw, v6 turbos!
@anthonys7534
@anthonys7534 Ай бұрын
Ford is offering the 2.7L now!
@eliteexposure5594
@eliteexposure5594 Ай бұрын
@@anthonys7534 Excellent! The 2.7 is powerful and reliable!
@lucwilson1
@lucwilson1 2 ай бұрын
Glad you guys left Roman at home. He would have complained the whole time as soon as skid plates touch rocks. lol 😂
@V8orNoCar
@V8orNoCar 2 ай бұрын
Yeah roman is old news, they need to retire him already
@jadenantal1652
@jadenantal1652 2 ай бұрын
I think you could hear him laugh in the background when the Tacoma leaned the other way on the first rock
@JosePerez-cf1ow
@JosePerez-cf1ow 2 ай бұрын
Baby boomers that's what they do complain and complain I hate baby boomers
@TacticalLulu
@TacticalLulu 2 ай бұрын
YES ​@@V8orNoCar
@TheJHP3
@TheJHP3 2 ай бұрын
I’m a Toyota fan boy and I would even say the Ranger. Getting so much capability for a cheaper price. If this truck was around the price of the Ranger we would have different convo
@anthonys7534
@anthonys7534 Ай бұрын
Toyota is damn good lookin though😮
@jimhanle2971
@jimhanle2971 2 ай бұрын
The bean counters at Toyota are destroying their brand with cost cutting. I’ll take the Raptor!
@lucwilson1
@lucwilson1 2 ай бұрын
Cost cutting where it hurts quality but adding overpriced frivolous options.
@NomenClature-o8s
@NomenClature-o8s 2 ай бұрын
@@jimhanle2971 enjoy the Ford. It rated 18th and reliability by JD Powers survey.
@NomenClature-o8s
@NomenClature-o8s 2 ай бұрын
@@lucwilson1 speaking of quality Ford is number one in recalls for 2024
@waterloo123100
@waterloo123100 2 ай бұрын
@@NomenClature-o8sThats better then most other companies who sweep their safety problems under the rug 😂
@NomenClature-o8s
@NomenClature-o8s 2 ай бұрын
@@waterloo123100 Nice gaslighting
@mpeugeot
@mpeugeot 2 ай бұрын
Tommy, I would be willing to bet that the Bronco Raptor transmission skid plate would fit the Ranger Raptor. It would be a great way to protect those rails and the plastic transmission pan from damage.
@robervin9107
@robervin9107 2 ай бұрын
I absolutely love this video tons of brotherly wholesome content. Magnificent complements incredible communication. I needed this vlog from you both this week thank you both it’s been a tough week a friend passed away don’t worry I’m staying strong.
@TFLoffroad
@TFLoffroad 2 ай бұрын
So sorry to about your loss!
@forkthepork
@forkthepork 2 ай бұрын
@@TFLoffroad That's a bot, brother 🤣
@robervin9107
@robervin9107 2 ай бұрын
@@forkthepork. No I’m real bro.
@robervin9107
@robervin9107 2 ай бұрын
@@TFLoffroad. I appreciate it guys
@arkhsm
@arkhsm 2 ай бұрын
@@forkthepork He's not a bot !!
@virgfresco1403
@virgfresco1403 2 ай бұрын
Bottom line, Ranger Raptor wins!👍
@jorgegab4538
@jorgegab4538 2 ай бұрын
Yes !!
@Deatomizer
@Deatomizer 2 ай бұрын
Nice editing guys. I like how you go back and forth between the two trucks at each obstacle
@TFLoffroad
@TFLoffroad 2 ай бұрын
Glad you liked it!
@jbuck9821
@jbuck9821 2 ай бұрын
@@TFLoffroad Is TLF going to get the $825 tune from Ford for the Ranger Raptor? It is supposed to increase the power to 455hp and 536lbf.
@krover01
@krover01 2 ай бұрын
Trail hunter without a front locker isnt much of Trail hunter..
@TryAmazonPrimeToday
@TryAmazonPrimeToday 2 ай бұрын
Gimmick hunter
@chrismc.893
@chrismc.893 2 ай бұрын
Agreed, and the Pro has some lame seats instead of a front locker. Toyota failed.
@tungol00
@tungol00 2 ай бұрын
mostly mall hunter
@camonly849
@camonly849 2 ай бұрын
That's what I was thinking. Plus the tires aren't as aggressive for being a "trail hunter".
@carholic-sz3qv
@carholic-sz3qv 2 ай бұрын
thats what she said lol...
@RascalCatify
@RascalCatify 2 ай бұрын
Of all the things Toyota gave the "Trail Hunter" they leave off a front locker...
@abeham5720
@abeham5720 2 ай бұрын
Ranger raptor all the way.
@zmotorpro
@zmotorpro 2 ай бұрын
Great work on this video guys! I'm taking the Ranger over the TrailHunter. It has better shocks, front locker, and a steel front bumper.
@Norwisco
@Norwisco 2 ай бұрын
That sway bar dissconect looked to do nothing at all mabe wasnt working
@jbcope1000
@jbcope1000 2 ай бұрын
Other videos have shown it needs to be unloaded before disconnect. Maybe it was stuck?
@tbm275
@tbm275 2 ай бұрын
It says it unlocks but it does not actually disengage under load like the Bronco system. I just find it stupid that Ford will put the disconnect on a base model Bronco with sasquatch pack but won't put it on the top dog Raptor...
@lonerider5315
@lonerider5315 2 ай бұрын
Its just really well damped. It moved slowly. You can also tell how much the ranger bounces more then the yota. Ford = chinese garbage
@NomenClature-o8s
@NomenClature-o8s 2 ай бұрын
@@lonerider5315 how much of the Ford is made in China?
@Mycameron2323
@Mycameron2323 2 ай бұрын
​@@NomenClature-o8s230%
@clangdon1436
@clangdon1436 2 ай бұрын
The Rager could have cleared that obstacle 3 times I the time it took the Tacoma .
@oakcor
@oakcor 2 ай бұрын
I would love to see the Colorado ZR2 in the mix with those two also.
@Getusom
@Getusom 2 ай бұрын
The ZR2 has already been through there. It made it easy….way easier than the Tacoma. But I think they put the front lockers on
@uh60ce1
@uh60ce1 2 ай бұрын
​@Getusom now they should bring the desert boss up it though
@Getusom
@Getusom 2 ай бұрын
@@uh60ce1 desert boss? Who makes that? Ram?
@krasnaludek298
@krasnaludek298 2 ай бұрын
ZR2 will absolutely manhandle the Tacoma. Chevy/GMC & Ford 🇺🇸 are now the top tier of the midsize segment. Toyota 🇲🇽🇯🇵 is dead last based on value or tied with Nissan if price is not factored.
@Getusom
@Getusom 2 ай бұрын
@@krasnaludek298 you forgot about jeep…the best of the best
@Mr.Carter777
@Mr.Carter777 2 ай бұрын
The 2024 Ford Ranger Raptor has a starting price of around $55,000. The Toyota Tacoma Trailhunter is priced at $65,000, which seems overpriced. Excellent comparison. Great Video!
@DustinRZR
@DustinRZR 2 ай бұрын
4Runner?
@ryanbishop4981
@ryanbishop4981 2 ай бұрын
Toyota has lost its way. They used to make reliable, functional, affordable vehicles for the middle class. What a shame.
@YAOZYVIDEO
@YAOZYVIDEO 2 ай бұрын
What do you mean? They are still making cars for middle class.
@KingLuis1985
@KingLuis1985 2 ай бұрын
@@YAOZYVIDEO but not really reliable and functional. everything has gone electronic trickery versus just how they used to do things with mechanical like the old land cruisers.
@DampNoodles
@DampNoodles 2 ай бұрын
​@@KingLuis1985not to be a total Toyota apologist. But it's really not that bad... Yes the tacos and the tundras have had some issues. It's not nothing and it's sad to see. But it's also the first year for those models and they are basically from the ground up new vehicles. And the rest of their lineup is totally fine? For every tundra with bad main bearings, there's probably 10,000 rav4s and Corollas running like wood burning stoves. They are definitely having some issues, but I still be more confident buying a Toyota than any domestic brand. Look at stilantes, I'll be surprised if they're still around in 5 years. At least still structured how they are now.
@HiPlains1
@HiPlains1 2 ай бұрын
@@DampNoodles They are underbuilt and we already know why. They moved from a frame mounted bump stop to a cheaper internal one mounted on shock. But it gets worse. They use a two piece cast aluminum top hat that have been exploding with the shock busting right up into the wheel well. I guarantee they will rework that in 2025. Other huge problem is no proper external transmission cooler. You work this hard off road the rear diff will overheat. Also many more reports of hard shifting and complete transmission failures. Engineer already saying they will have to limit the torque to wheels on auto traction control to avoid what happened to TFL front differential breaking. These trucks are under built compared to the prior gens. This we already know from the failures and the changes they made in the underpinnings. Toyota probably figures most will crawl malls. If you want to off road put an external trans cooler and steel top hats at the bare minimum. I would also avoid 33's or 35's on the taco. The suspension is just not going to handle that.
@adrianhosein7698
@adrianhosein7698 2 ай бұрын
​@@HiPlains1would still buy it over any ford or Chevy or ram, Toyota will fix the issues quickly and after 10 years it'll still be running.
@herpderp1662
@herpderp1662 2 ай бұрын
New taco is a rippoff. Tis why I canceled my trd pro allocation and bought the raptor.
@lucwilson1
@lucwilson1 2 ай бұрын
Smart man. Prices on the new Yotas are out of control!
@darek816
@darek816 2 ай бұрын
​@2011buddylee My RR is in the production line, so I hope to receive it very soon. I've never test drive zr2 or at4 and decided to go with RR. What made you to order RR instead of zr2 after test drive?
@m.687
@m.687 2 ай бұрын
They act like it has a V6 with these prices
@Carl-vx9ws
@Carl-vx9ws 2 ай бұрын
Raptor doesn’t seem like rock crawling was the primary intention, rather more like a Baja style driving, but seemed capable enough for the money. ✌🏼
@LukeEdward
@LukeEdward 2 ай бұрын
Nice to see you guys going “Michael Jackson” on these truck and just beat it.
@genebond
@genebond 2 ай бұрын
Thanks guys. You helped me decide to go for the Ranger Raptor to replace my '15 Tacoma. I'm currently waiting for the bed reinforcement to be installed before I finish the purchase. 1-1/2 weeks so far...
@teddonley9594
@teddonley9594 2 ай бұрын
I could hear those Toyota tie rods screaming for mercy lol
@HiPlains1
@HiPlains1 2 ай бұрын
Yeah and also those internal bumps stops with the cheapo two piece cast aluminum top hats about ready to blow up into a million pieces. You also forgot the lack of proper transmission cooler and the rear differential is also heating up ready to explode. Lets face it, Toyota never intended for people to actually use their Trail hunter. They expect them to be crawling malls. I can assure you the engineers were sweating beads on this one.
@teddonley9594
@teddonley9594 2 ай бұрын
@HiPlains1 If you read the fine print, Toyota says driving your truck offroad voids the warranty
@Enchanted3DPrints
@Enchanted3DPrints 2 ай бұрын
@@teddonley9594 It does not lol
@teddonley9594
@teddonley9594 2 ай бұрын
@Enchanted3DPrints Look on their warranty website. I was amazed at how they continue to suck money from their customers
@Stuka87
@Stuka87 2 ай бұрын
@@Enchanted3DPrints Toyota is pretty well known for voiding warrantees, and their docs do say using a vehicle offroad (Which includes race tracks) will void the warranty. Take the GR86 for instance, there is an issue with oiling on hard right hand corners on a race track. If you blow the engine for this, Toyota will do their best to refuse replacing the engine. However, if you have a Subaru BRZ (same car), and this issue happens, they will replace the engine without any fuss.
@GeoSentinel
@GeoSentinel 2 ай бұрын
THIS is the team! THIS is why I watch TFL. Thank you guys! (Lose the running boards 😂)
@videotryouts1
@videotryouts1 2 ай бұрын
Great to know where we need to beef up a Raptor. Thanks!
@off-roadingcars
@off-roadingcars 2 ай бұрын
I love how you guys take these vehicles on real hard core off road trails to test them out. That’s why I always turn to TFL when shopping for vehicles or learning about vehicles just for fun. Thank you for all the real world information!
@patpurcell5333
@patpurcell5333 2 ай бұрын
You guys are the best in the business. Absolutely love these videos! Thanks as always.
@TFLoffroad
@TFLoffroad 2 ай бұрын
Wow, thanks!
@christiandrangsholt868
@christiandrangsholt868 2 ай бұрын
Ford Raptor the between the two better package thanks Case and Tommy
@ryanmoen6239
@ryanmoen6239 2 ай бұрын
Damn. That roll angle was a butt clencher.
@fuzzy3440
@fuzzy3440 2 ай бұрын
I just put BFG KO3's on my 2018 Ford F150 (275x70r18) and am pretty happy with them so far.
@cmayer26
@cmayer26 2 ай бұрын
Maybe with all the ARB branded stuff on the Tacoma ARB could introduce the concept of a front locker to Toyota!!
@rogelv8td
@rogelv8td 2 ай бұрын
I loved that you were not as afraid as Roman to scratch or have some small damage to the trucks
@Martin_from_SC
@Martin_from_SC 2 ай бұрын
I just don't know how they put together a "trail hunter" rock crawler without a front diff lock, especially that all its midsize competition has them in the top spec offroad trims. Also I think the Toyota is overstyled. Way too many silly angles and shapes. The Raptor looks so much better.
@fritty9927
@fritty9927 2 ай бұрын
Personally I think the Raptor just looks like a plain old ford pickup. Not a bad thing, but not very distinctive.
@adrianhosein7698
@adrianhosein7698 2 ай бұрын
Disagree hard, Toyota looks waaaayyy better than the raptor.
@waterloo123100
@waterloo123100 2 ай бұрын
@@fritty9927Plain ages better I wish more companies made simpler designs. Now they just rip off looks from each other.
@fritty9927
@fritty9927 2 ай бұрын
@@waterloo123100 true
@Mursedave
@Mursedave 2 ай бұрын
Great video gents! I’m going with the Ranger as well.
@ericneal1872
@ericneal1872 2 ай бұрын
Ranger. No question.
@stephenzerfas5307
@stephenzerfas5307 2 ай бұрын
Raptor in a second. Costs less, front locker, fox shocks, 4 auto. Did all the Toyota did with ease, granted better tires but easily minus that advantage with damp/wet conditions for only the Ford. Bed side lights and power up tailgate is something I have NEVER needed or wished for on my truck.
@3rdpig
@3rdpig 2 ай бұрын
A $65k mid sized truck designed for rock crawling and it comes without a front locker standard? Damn.
@mknicley65
@mknicley65 2 ай бұрын
They aren't talking about the $10-15k Toyota Dealership markup on these Tacomas and the Trasmissions going bad already. I am a Tacoma Fan boy, but I have to say, for the money, with the Raptor HP/Torque factory tune, it has it beat.
@Steve-yr5vi
@Steve-yr5vi 2 ай бұрын
This may sound nit picky but I would not buy a vehicle that had a range that the Tacoma has, what you said 285 miles? That is crazy, my truck with a 36 gallon tank will go over 700 miles with regular driving, 800+ if I put an effort into it. Heck when my remaining range drops below 200 miles I typically fuel up, having put 500 miles on the tank already.
@anthonyc1883
@anthonyc1883 2 ай бұрын
Could he have said 250 miles? Even worse! Or perhaps I mis-heard.
@Enchanted3DPrints
@Enchanted3DPrints 2 ай бұрын
You could carry extra gas. Most serious off roaders/overlanders do but i do agree another 10 gallons added to the size would be nice. 300 miles of range is more than enough for most to do what they need to do before finding another gas station though
@4rwooop544
@4rwooop544 Ай бұрын
both are good trucks. if you want value for money go Ranger Raptor. You want power? hands down Ranger Raptor. are you going to race from a stoplight? RR it is. Reliability wise? all goes down how you maintain your truck. Tacoma is dual injection (port and direct) Ranger Raptor is direct only (better put oil catch can from day 1 to make it reliable or do not put catch can and walnut blast the intake ports at 50k 60k 70k 80k miles) who knows. Tacoma is now suffering transmission issues on 4th gens. Is the dreaded Cam phaser rattle still an issue with the 3.0 EB? lets wait 3 years and see who is on top of the game. I would love to own both. Let's see the sales figure and reliability ratings after 3 years, maybe that's the time I would buy one. Still loving my 18' 4runner, at 6 years and 80k miles with no issues and no monthly payments. She still runs like when I drove her off the lot.
@Creator-uj8je
@Creator-uj8je 2 ай бұрын
Both truck are great! But in own class is Raptor and and everyone else.👍
@bige311
@bige311 6 күн бұрын
Shoulda called Trailhunter the speed bump hunter for my Starbucks trips.
@dylj12
@dylj12 2 ай бұрын
The sway bar on the first obstacle didn’t disconnect. It doesn’t disconnect when you’re articulated.
@PeakDecline
@PeakDecline 2 ай бұрын
Right? Its just the computer lying.
@davo1661
@davo1661 2 ай бұрын
Bro the toyota is not even near the raptor. The raptor is on another level lockers and more power and speed. Plus the raptor got a v6 😂
@andyleo8418
@andyleo8418 2 ай бұрын
Yeah but it's a Ford V6. 😂
@NomenClature-o8s
@NomenClature-o8s 2 ай бұрын
@@andyleo8418Good point
@theaveragewoodsman6002
@theaveragewoodsman6002 2 ай бұрын
The off-road capability of the Ranger Raptor is understandable. The problem is that it has Ford QC. The industry leader in recalls 3 years in a row.
@paulwatson4189
@paulwatson4189 2 ай бұрын
@@theaveragewoodsman6002 toyota should trounce that easily in the next qc. 110 engines and tacoma trannys failing like crazy.
@jdfleetguy28
@jdfleetguy28 2 ай бұрын
Are you guys going to get that new Ford performance tune Ford released yesterday. It’s a Ford dealer installed performance tune that bumps the Ranger Raptor up 50Hp and 100 lbs of torque. Ranger Raptor: Torque jumps from 430 to 536 lb.-ft., while horsepower increases from 405 to 455. I think Ford is charging something like $800 for it. Would love to see a lot of the Ranger Raptor test or re-test with that performance tune. It’s already the power king in the class. This tune should really take it to yet another level.
@CJ-rk5eg
@CJ-rk5eg 2 ай бұрын
That’s a decent price for a warranty power bump
@arkhsm
@arkhsm 2 ай бұрын
They've said in a new vid, they want to get the tune, then do before and after performance tests !!
@azoutdoorsunlimited
@azoutdoorsunlimited 2 ай бұрын
Why a front locker isn't offered as a factory option for the Taco at this point is beyond me. Espeically in the TH model which is said to be showcasing Toyo's off-road capability. Both Ford and GMC/Chevy got it right there.
@christos881
@christos881 2 ай бұрын
Is Toyota serious with the price of this truck, over $60k??
@hillbillyfromtheswamp6223
@hillbillyfromtheswamp6223 2 ай бұрын
You bet your ass their serious
@mediocreman2
@mediocreman2 2 ай бұрын
More like $70k. Probably $75k out of the door.
@smartkking4984
@smartkking4984 2 ай бұрын
Id rather buy gmc sierra with that price
@Slammingutz
@Slammingutz Ай бұрын
Toyota built a cheaper truck and threw some bolt on parts and didn’t think we would notice all the epic failures they made with the New 2024 Toyota Tacoma. Screw you Toyota. Greedy bastards.
@EuroYardService
@EuroYardService Ай бұрын
Sick looking wheels on the Tacoma 🤩
@toddlayman3839
@toddlayman3839 2 ай бұрын
the ranger also has a usable back seat
@Slammingutz
@Slammingutz Ай бұрын
That back seat on the Tacoma is not usable and useless. Another epic fail by Toyota.
@explor360
@explor360 2 ай бұрын
And the Gladiator Rubicon would glide up there without issues…
@keithhunt3437
@keithhunt3437 2 ай бұрын
Damn fords high speed Baja truck beat Toyotas “rock crawler” that’s saying something. Or at least it used to.
@flight2k5
@flight2k5 2 ай бұрын
How did it beat it
@paulwatson4189
@paulwatson4189 2 ай бұрын
@@flight2k5 did you not watch
@flight2k5
@flight2k5 2 ай бұрын
@@paulwatson4189 yea the Tacoma went everywhere the raptor did 😂🤣
@keithhunt3437
@keithhunt3437 2 ай бұрын
@@flight2k5 that’s what they said. But it beats it in price and powertrain 4Auto stuff like that
@flight2k5
@flight2k5 2 ай бұрын
@@keithhunt3437 ooohhh 4auto. Wow.
@richardaustin5796
@richardaustin5796 2 ай бұрын
Very thorough and interesting review of both trucks! Tommy and Kase (And Alex) are definitely the future of TFL! Keep up the great work guys!
@blkmoon5596
@blkmoon5596 2 ай бұрын
Toyota has no bump stops! They are blowing out the upper shock towers
@honkytonk2010
@honkytonk2010 2 ай бұрын
Out standing! Top tier rd review Thank you Tommy and Kace you guys rock!! 👌👍🔥🔥🔥🔥
@rmalmeida1976
@rmalmeida1976 2 ай бұрын
Raptor beats any TRD/Special Edition Taco on price and performance.
@sealoftheliving4998
@sealoftheliving4998 2 ай бұрын
True. Here in Philippines no V6 only 2.0 Biturbo Diesel
@PIONNEER55
@PIONNEER55 2 ай бұрын
Glad to see some real wheeling these days on the channel!
@davidjernigan8161
@davidjernigan8161 2 ай бұрын
And you put the Ford at a disadvantage with the camper on it.
@flight2k5
@flight2k5 2 ай бұрын
😂how
@reaperofchaos87
@reaperofchaos87 2 ай бұрын
@@flight2k5 So much weight on the back axle lowers the rear breakover, and center breakover.
@flight2k5
@flight2k5 2 ай бұрын
@@reaperofchaos87 🤣😂 ok. It o my weight 275 pounds
@RCFTE
@RCFTE 2 ай бұрын
Another ford meathead.
@gearheadtechnology
@gearheadtechnology 2 ай бұрын
I doubt anyone would be putting these trucks through anything close to what they did here so either one is fine.. lol
@jdfleetguy28
@jdfleetguy28 2 ай бұрын
Another great video guys, very well done! The articulation and locker test was impressive for a pair of showroom stock trucks.
@alexandersheppard1997
@alexandersheppard1997 2 ай бұрын
But did the front differential blow up on the Tacoma again?
@Slammingutz
@Slammingutz Ай бұрын
It will and so with the Transfer Case, and transmission, and then the 4 cylinder turbo engine. What an absolute garbage cheap and overpriced truck.
@alimirzaei2075
@alimirzaei2075 2 ай бұрын
Ranger raptor is super appealing as a replacement for my 5th gen 4Runner. Disappointed with new Toyota trucks with 4 cylinder engines, questionable reliability, and ridiculous price tags
@coryu2403
@coryu2403 2 ай бұрын
When have we gotten so lazy we can not lift a tailgate 🤷‍♂️😂
@fantabuloussnuffaluffagus
@fantabuloussnuffaluffagus 2 ай бұрын
I've had 4 Toyota 4x4 pickups, starting with an '83, and now I have a '13, all purchased new. Looking at the prices of the new ones there is no way I'm buying a 5th Toyota truck. The Tacoma they tested here would cost me North of $80k CAD.
@westeed1
@westeed1 2 ай бұрын
5:08 was waiting for that front diff to break! 😂
@Slammingutz
@Slammingutz Ай бұрын
Me too! Hahaha. I am waiting for multiple mechanical and cosmetic components to break and fall off with this new Toyota Tacoma. Let them Rot on the Lot!
@slidewide1999
@slidewide1999 2 ай бұрын
Normally I see a 20+ minutes video (let alone 36!) and pass… but Tommy and Case, you guys made one of the best TFL vids to date! Thoroughly enjoyed the whole thing! For a future video idea it might be fun to have a “normal” truck along. This was like watching two olympians do battle, be interesting to see how a normal vehicle would compare.
@joshc606
@joshc606 2 ай бұрын
People keep talking about the price BUT Toyotas have always been high. All they did was give you the option to add everything you would do anyways. And it’s done from the factory so props to them for that.
@WW-wf8tu
@WW-wf8tu 2 ай бұрын
100% Agree with your final assessment. The Raptor (minus the stupid camper and side steps)wins in my book. BTW, @22:00 minutes in, I was in a similar roll situation where I was so far over on the drivers side, I could literally and did, put my hand out the window and touch the ground.(1986.5 Nissan Hardbody SEV6 4x4) And that while fun, was very concerning. Unfortunately, that was back in the day when we did not have phone cameras and my back up rig was at the bottom of the V notch a good 4 hundred yards away. I don't know what kept it from rolling completely over, other than I had just the right amount of everything working in my favor. lol
@richardfiske6311
@richardfiske6311 2 ай бұрын
Never thought I'd say this about an Ecoboost engine but that Ranger sounds worlds better than the Taco.
@Jay-me7gw
@Jay-me7gw 2 ай бұрын
The colorado I4 Turbo also sounds like a pile of crap. I test drove one and was actually semi concerned. It was very clattery, kinda like a diesel.
@Ww8.3
@Ww8.3 2 ай бұрын
⁠@@Jay-me7gwmight be the direct injection. I had a mazdaspeed 3 that clattery too but had no problems putting down 400whp for over 100k miles.
@Jay-me7gw
@Jay-me7gw 2 ай бұрын
@@Ww8.3 I drove my direct injected 3.5L Ecoboost to the dealer for the test drive. DI def makes a ticking, but It wasn’t just that.
@supporterofsanity
@supporterofsanity 2 ай бұрын
When you disconnected the swaybar in the Tacoma, I couldn’t detect the slightest bit difference in the video. Are you sure it disconnected?
@anthonyc1883
@anthonyc1883 2 ай бұрын
Another viewer commented that it won't disconnect when it is already articulated.
@MJ-fj9yv
@MJ-fj9yv 2 ай бұрын
How about Nissan Frontier, 310-hp 3.8-liter V6, pro for $44,730? Saves about $20k. Plus spend another 5k-6k on the frontier to your taste and AVOID that ridiculous whistle on the trail hunter 😂.
@ChrisPark
@ChrisPark 2 ай бұрын
Very impressed by those BFGs. I think that was the big difference
@adamsmiths3016
@adamsmiths3016 2 ай бұрын
I'm still in the middle on the k03s. I know they are better in the rain but I'm worried about offroad use.
@ChrisPark
@ChrisPark 2 ай бұрын
@@adamsmiths3016 if I would be doing more mud, than I wouldn't use the all terrain. For general use, and crawling, I think its the right choice
@n118nw
@n118nw 2 ай бұрын
@@adamsmiths3016 I have them on my 4th gen Taco and have done a few off road trips on them. I have absolutely zero issues with them.
@adamsmiths3016
@adamsmiths3016 2 ай бұрын
@@n118nw not trying to discredit you but just trying to pick your brain. Have you used the k02s before you tried the k03s if so did you notice a big difference? I'm curious because my k02s are at the end of their life and I'm going to pick up the HD terrains or the k03s next.
@n118nw
@n118nw 2 ай бұрын
@@adamsmiths3016 No OEM were BFG Trailterrains. Previous truck had Continental Terrain Contacts. This is the first time I've ever had BFG AT's
@JasonSawyer-e6v
@JasonSawyer-e6v 2 ай бұрын
This has to be one of your best videos ever. Just awesome. Thank you.
@TFLoffroad
@TFLoffroad 2 ай бұрын
Wow, thank you!
@JRs-guitars
@JRs-guitars 2 ай бұрын
TrailHunter...no front locker, has a 4 cylinder, comes with crappy tires and is almost $10k more than the Raptor. Who in the Hell would choose this junk over the Raptor? 🤣🤣🤣
@Slammingutz
@Slammingutz Ай бұрын
😂😂😂 So many Toyota Boot lickers will buy this overpriced and cheaply built Toyota Tacoma. Toyota fanboys are not the sharpest toolbags….LOL
@youwould2779
@youwould2779 2 ай бұрын
Ranger seems like the way, cheaper and more capable with less add on junk. Toyota issues make you really question the reliability meme.
@xziang
@xziang 2 ай бұрын
I am a toyota fan (97 4runner, 08 Tacoma, now 17 Tacoma) but I think I would choose the Ford. I like the styling of the ford better and twin turbo v6 (not fan of hybrids for potential failure point) Ford also has a better following for tuning and modification if you choose. 95% of my wheeling would probably not need a front locker but is nice to have. I am impressed toyota actually added a True frame slider plus for the compressor too. Good video thanks guys!
@anthonys7534
@anthonys7534 Ай бұрын
As a die hard Ford guy, that Toyota looks 🔥 killer
@1FiftyOverland
@1FiftyOverland 2 ай бұрын
So glad you did this comparo! Now i just need to convince the wife she needs a ranger raptor 😉
@IKnewMickey
@IKnewMickey 2 ай бұрын
This is a great video! Amazing location. Proper factory off roaders. Enough driving skill to make things work. This video should hit 100,000 views in 24 hours. If not, why?
@TFLoffroad
@TFLoffroad 2 ай бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@holden8239
@holden8239 2 ай бұрын
It’s nice to see you guys doing some harder trails and obstacles.
@pablochacon40
@pablochacon40 2 ай бұрын
Is the ford ranger the new mid size king ? It seems that of the off road version of the mid size trucks now the ford ranger raptor the best truck for the money and the most all around capable mid size truck .
@Enchanted3DPrints
@Enchanted3DPrints 2 ай бұрын
No. The tacoma outsells the ranger 4 to 1
@paulwatson4189
@paulwatson4189 2 ай бұрын
@@Enchanted3DPrints The new tacoma is not selling good at all
@thomaslam6821
@thomaslam6821 2 ай бұрын
As for the video. I would choose the Raptor over Trailhunter because of price and performance! Toyota better shape up with better vehicles!
@jmar3011
@jmar3011 2 ай бұрын
Ranger every day!!
@brando7252
@brando7252 2 ай бұрын
Great video! This is the kind of comparison I like to see! That trail is pretty narrow in person
@kpatt2006
@kpatt2006 2 ай бұрын
Toyota has gotten a little too crazy with their pricing.
@beardumaw24
@beardumaw24 2 ай бұрын
Never thought i would say this but ill take the Raptor ! Toyota really missed the ball not having a front locker and being a hybrid and 8,000 more.
@rodjones812
@rodjones812 2 ай бұрын
The Ford looks tough. But the plastic oil pan ruins the entire package!
@TigerRagFishingTeam
@TigerRagFishingTeam 2 ай бұрын
Appreciate, as usual, y'all truly testing vehicles capabilities!
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