The Terrifying Abduction the Police Refused to Believe | Denise Huskins

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@ThatChapter
@ThatChapter 2 жыл бұрын
Just a reminder everyone, I am not on Telegram! If you get a reply claiming to be me saying you won a prize or something it’s a SCAM! I’ve banned over a dozen already, seems to be an issue across KZbin
@MikeLawlorBarefoot
@MikeLawlorBarefoot 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Mike.
@jona5592
@jona5592 2 жыл бұрын
Cheers!
@jgspnshow7047
@jgspnshow7047 2 жыл бұрын
can i still get a prize tho…?
@lamardana9732
@lamardana9732 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Mike how are you ? My husband calls you his friend lol .... can you please do a video on shanquella Robinson please I know you will tell it Better and with them HD videos please.. have a bless day
@ricericebaby_1660
@ricericebaby_1660 2 жыл бұрын
Man you mean I did not win a cash prize of $20,000 dang.
@ralphintheshadowrealm7002
@ralphintheshadowrealm7002 2 жыл бұрын
Imagine doing such a bad job in an investigation you upset THE CRIMINAL so much they corroborate Aaron and Denise.
@17thknight
@17thknight 2 жыл бұрын
When the kidnapper / rapist is morally outraged at your actions then you're probably pretty evil. Look up Lt Park. Dude made flippant, joke texts about the whole thing. Mocked them. He and his buddies talked about "let's burn that bitch". They're all absolute monsters.
@GetCraftyLemons
@GetCraftyLemons 2 жыл бұрын
This was the most bizarre case ever lol!!!
@SongJLikes
@SongJLikes 2 жыл бұрын
Yikes. Good point.
@markmike7933
@markmike7933 2 жыл бұрын
well to be fair, he was a psycho. Most criminals would be thrilled. Sad thing is he was just a psycho until he raped her. then he became a psycho AND a monster
@SamuraiCypher
@SamuraiCypher 2 жыл бұрын
Police playing 5D chess.
@MidnightPausch
@MidnightPausch 2 жыл бұрын
the kidnapper coming out like "the audacity the police have" will never not be hilarious.
@uncertain_zee
@uncertain_zee Жыл бұрын
Had Aaron and Denises' back more than the police 💀💀
@astoldbynickgerr
@astoldbynickgerr Жыл бұрын
@@uncertain_zee jfc 😅😅😅😅
@Rockinashy
@Rockinashy Жыл бұрын
i’m not even gonna lie dude i’d think they were lying too 😭
@Senaleb
@Senaleb Жыл бұрын
@@Rockinashy Found the Vallejo police officer
@Trenchcoat3
@Trenchcoat3 Жыл бұрын
@@Senaleb Nah dude. That story is fishy on so many levels. I still doubt they werent in on it. Totally understandable everyone would think so.
@marissasimas9258
@marissasimas9258 2 жыл бұрын
The couple invited the officer who connected the two cases to their wedding. They said if it wasn’t for her, the wedding might not have happened as they might have been in jail!
@CantTellYou
@CantTellYou 2 жыл бұрын
It was probably a real nice wedding if it happened after that 2.5mil lawsuit (arguably not enough)
@marissasimas9258
@marissasimas9258 2 жыл бұрын
@@CantTellYou Not nearly enough. Should have been at least 2.5 mill for each of them.
@17thknight
@17thknight 2 жыл бұрын
@@marissasimas9258 should have been paid straight out of the salaries of every "detective" involved in this
@reznortetrault4348
@reznortetrault4348 2 жыл бұрын
@@CantTellYou $2.5 million before lawyer fees and California taxes, probably ended up with $1.3 million, maybe. Definitely could of got a larger settlement if the media heat was on but living in the PNW, I wasn't even aware of this case.
@marissasimas9258
@marissasimas9258 2 жыл бұрын
@@17thknight Yes! Great idea.
@ladyhonor822
@ladyhonor822 Жыл бұрын
When the kidnappers have to come out and stick up for you against the police... YOU KNOW SOMETHING IS WRONG.
@selfesteem3447
@selfesteem3447 8 ай бұрын
.... And KNOW that the kidnapper/s are a narcissist with a bruised ego.
@ihawms950
@ihawms950 3 ай бұрын
​@@selfesteem3447and what are the cops?
@DiZoSoMom
@DiZoSoMom 2 жыл бұрын
So I guess the key takeaway from this is that If you wanna commit horrible crimes, just do things in a weird way and the police will blame the victims. Got it. 😒
@CantTellYou
@CantTellYou 2 жыл бұрын
Some home-invader/kidnapper out there is taking notes & showing up to homes with giant stuffed unicorns & pink elephants to make it unbelievable 😑
@ginmar8134
@ginmar8134 2 жыл бұрын
You're not even wrong! Crooks watch TV, too. "Gone Girl" keeps getting cited as if it's a real event.
@MK-lk7nc
@MK-lk7nc 2 жыл бұрын
Society is also being victimized, broadly, by a gang of well financed psychopaths with government connections who follow very much this same MO, with largely the same results. Lotta food factories getting randomly firebombed? Too absurd eh. Economy being sabotaged by the people we trust to protect it? Too absurd. National security sabotaged from the inside? Too absurd. And look how the media pressitutes queue up to say their lines....
@Paul-yq2ls
@Paul-yq2ls 2 жыл бұрын
You are so right! Because if he didn't stuff up and drop his phone (could of been deliberately done) the couple would still be going through hell! I'm wondering if when the doodle head dropped his phone, the he wanted to get cought? Because he is intelligent enough to know the consequences of dropping his phone? He definitely would of got rid of any evidence from his home, and as if he would just sit and wait for the police to just turn up? 🙄 seriously?
@motherlessgoat72
@motherlessgoat72 2 жыл бұрын
@@Paul-yq2ls I think the next kidnapping attempt might have been purposeful, too. It wasn't as clean as the other crimes committed. And he happens to drop his phone in such a conspicuous manner to lead straight back to him when he had been so careful beforehand? 🤔 Can't say definitively that's what happened, but I think it's highly likely.
@whitedragoness23
@whitedragoness23 2 жыл бұрын
When even the criminals feel like the justice system has let down the victims they themselves attacked…
@freedomishavingachoice3020
@freedomishavingachoice3020 2 жыл бұрын
Remember this when crazy prolife Americans claim rape is rare. Most cases don't even get reported because we've given up on the cops actually solving them.
@rustyhowe3907
@rustyhowe3907 2 жыл бұрын
It's just beyond insane to think the criminal had a higher standard after doing what they did.
@Matty272
@Matty272 9 ай бұрын
⁠@@rustyhowe3907well, to be fair, he is a bit Koo Koo for Cocopuffs.
@rustyhowe3907
@rustyhowe3907 9 ай бұрын
@@Matty272 Absolutely!
@ZackEdwards1234
@ZackEdwards1234 Жыл бұрын
Imagine the frustration that Aaron must've been going through. The cops didn't even bother checking his story out. The detectives who worked this case, especially the guy who initially interviewed him, should be sacked!
@dragonmaster9360
@dragonmaster9360 Жыл бұрын
All of the police that were involved, as well as the DA, should be fired, lose their pensions as well as be charged with making false accusations. Think about what would happen to an average civilian if they went on TV or social media and stated - not accused - stated - that the local police chief and DA were liars. Police SWAT would attack their house in the middle of the night and that person would be in jail so fast they wouldn't know what hit them. Our "Justice System" is a joke. Money is the only way to justice in this country.
@KS-PNW
@KS-PNW Жыл бұрын
Yeah unfortunately police officers rarely get fired even in situations where they kill someone. Almost no chance they'd lose their job over something like this.
@tzvikrasner6073
@tzvikrasner6073 Жыл бұрын
The Vallejo PD investigated the Vallejo PD and found that the Vallejo PD did nothing wrong.
@devinlabuda5713
@devinlabuda5713 Жыл бұрын
Ball sacked!
@yvonnecortes_
@yvonnecortes_ Жыл бұрын
Now every case that cop worked on in the past should be questioned cz obviously he sucks at his job. Imagine what other innocent people are in jail cz of him smh.
@jerichohill2805
@jerichohill2805 Жыл бұрын
After watching this again, I see why these guys didn't catch the Zodiac. Those cops couldn't catch a cold in a snowstorm.
@andrewman8763
@andrewman8763 Жыл бұрын
This comment is the truth
@npfg72
@npfg72 Жыл бұрын
lol, yea they even had an interaction with the zodiac killer right after he killed the cab driver but for one reason or another they let the dude go!
@Christine-jz5nk
@Christine-jz5nk Жыл бұрын
Couldn't catch a donut rolling down the street.
@KrazyVideoChick
@KrazyVideoChick Жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@c.o3301
@c.o3301 Жыл бұрын
I don’t think they sounded believable either though
@guardrailbiter
@guardrailbiter 2 жыл бұрын
The kidnapper seriously got _jealous_ of the police behavior: "Hey, Vallejo PD, she's my victim, not yours. Only I can victimize her."
@brandonmuse5532
@brandonmuse5532 2 жыл бұрын
😂🤣🤣😂🤣😂🤣
@cjwojoe
@cjwojoe 2 жыл бұрын
It seems like he spent enough time around her that he felt empathy for her. Almost like reverse Stockholm syndrome. And he realized that what he did was affecting her more then he wanted. He may have also hated that someone else was getting the credit for his work. But it seemed like it was a rare scenario where the criminal actually felt bad for the negative affect his actions were having on her life. She even said he treated her very well and took good care of her.
@aaronwalker8847
@aaronwalker8847 2 жыл бұрын
😂 good one, but that aint why he did that. He did it because he felt bad about what he had done, and was sorry for it. He couldn't undo what he did, but he could at least do the folks he harmed a solid. And he did it cuz - The cops are dirty criminal pieces of crap on a good day, and what they were doing was lower than low. Worst than what kidnapper did by far. The cops intended to kidnap, cage, and torture her and make her eat nasty food for years, then to add insult to insult and injury - they intended to ruin her whole entire rest of her life. And her boyfriend/ husband to boot. As bad as the kidnappers behaviour was, and as bad as he might have been. The cops injustice in this case was just too mich for even a heinous criminal could stand for. Thats why.
@guardrailbiter
@guardrailbiter 2 жыл бұрын
@@aaronwalker8847 Well, I'm glad to see you have a balanced, level-headed, unbiased opinion of law enforcement. If they were witches tied to a post, might you be the first to strike a match?
@aaronwalker8847
@aaronwalker8847 2 жыл бұрын
@@guardrailbiter I don't hate them dudes, we each have our own sins to bare. And cops have to bare the sins of all of the other cops, becaused they "joined" together as 1 unit. Theyll pay for their crimes if they dont change their ways, and beg gods forgiveness. And Now that you mention it. Didn you know that cops sell their souls to the devil/ rebellion led by licifer through the civy lies nations? Thats a fact . When they swear oaths and take pay to force the criminal, "CRIMINAL laws, CRIMINAL statutes, and CRIMINAL acts of the CRIMINAL justice system" on the city zens. Literally everything they do and stand for is criminal, by its own admission. And calling stuff by different names dont change what it is they do. Plus, to obtain rank, and make a carreer of bein a cop. They have to sell their souls to lucifer through free masonry. They are some evil dudes. They strong armed rob the city zens blind 24/7 , and they kidnap, cage, torture, hold folks for ransom, and ruin folks lives. And they enslave the city zens. They might as well be witches , Im sure many are.
@nikkikidd8428
@nikkikidd8428 2 жыл бұрын
There’s only one thing worse than being a victim of such a horrible crime, to NOT be believed.
@stephencoldbear
@stephencoldbear 2 жыл бұрын
Imagine all the stories from this channel that people have made fun of, saying how stupid the criminals were for making up such bizarre stories, and imagine how many of those could be actually true and the people innocent.
@MissManaged1001
@MissManaged1001 2 жыл бұрын
I think not being believed causes more harm and definitely ramps up PTSD
@LukeMcGuireoides
@LukeMcGuireoides 2 жыл бұрын
Yep. Cops are actually competent when it comes to not believing victims
@Autisticgyal
@Autisticgyal 2 жыл бұрын
UMMMM, many victims of abuse run into this issue of not being believed or having their case neglected, especially native and black women. How naive are you?
@MissManaged1001
@MissManaged1001 2 жыл бұрын
@@stephencoldbear you make a very good point! The pendulum definitely swings both ways. Many people of color have been put in the electric chair or life in prison for something they had nothing to do with. Honestly as a non believed victim we can become prisoners of our own mind and society and as a blamed and punished innocent "perpetrator" they become prisoners of society and brick mortar jails. Which is worse? You really brought up such a good point.
@garystinnett8321
@garystinnett8321 2 жыл бұрын
This is why you need to lawyer up immediately even if you're innocent, *especially* if you're innocent
@zuzukris4952
@zuzukris4952 Жыл бұрын
THIS!!!! I say it all of the time. ALWAYS ask for a Lawyer! They will try to say “only guilty people get lawyers” who cares! Your only response should be “whatever, still want a lawyer” The police in this country are allowed to flat out lie to you to get a confession. LAWYER! The police would never have been able to say most of the crap they said to him, if he had a lawyer.
@carolcarol3938
@carolcarol3938 Жыл бұрын
As long as you don't get Matthew Mullin as your lawyer!
@jeanP924
@jeanP924 Жыл бұрын
Right... my lawyer friend says, 'It's better to look guilty than to be found guilty!"
@imaner76
@imaner76 Жыл бұрын
"especially if you're innocent" If more knew this...
@daveffs1935
@daveffs1935 Жыл бұрын
If there's one thing I've learnt from watching true crime documentaries its this 👍
@beastiekat4562
@beastiekat4562 Жыл бұрын
Amazing how the police there expect criminals to take accountability for their actions but refuse to take accountability for their incompetence.
@mikesanders8621
@mikesanders8621 Жыл бұрын
The American police exist to protect the wealthy from the poor. Nothing else.
@DeViLsFaNo6
@DeViLsFaNo6 Жыл бұрын
Wow this is really good ^ I honestly never thought of it like that!
@TheChristianNomad
@TheChristianNomad Жыл бұрын
Because most police are not good people. They're egomaniacs with superiority complexes. Sorry to burst your bubble.
@Loralanthalas
@Loralanthalas Жыл бұрын
Now you know the abuses song.
@smorgensterin4990
@smorgensterin4990 11 ай бұрын
That's the most painful part. When someone goes through sexual abuse and assault, one of the biggest factor in recovery is how other people respond to your assaults. And they had to go through that ON CAMERA, with news coverage. I don't know how much therapy I'd need but it would be a lot.
@victoriawilliams2786
@victoriawilliams2786 2 жыл бұрын
In case someone doesn't know, the people who conduct "lie detector" test are allowed to lie to you about the results. And police are also allowed to lie to you. None of them are your friends. Edit: I'm really glad that the couple sued for the trouble police caused. Love you too Mike!
@FilthyBitchGunClub
@FilthyBitchGunClub 2 жыл бұрын
That cop who said he had failed miserably was a horrible liar. 🤣
@amiwrongaboutsports
@amiwrongaboutsports 2 жыл бұрын
That’s why right after he goes back to saying he just wants to find Denise. He’s lying and hoping there is enough pressure for a confession.
@victoriawilliams2786
@victoriawilliams2786 2 жыл бұрын
@@FilthyBitchGunClub 👍🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@julied6322
@julied6322 2 жыл бұрын
So true. The only words you are to say to an officer is, "I want a lawyer." then shut your yap. They will lie, coerce, browbeat, and will do everything short of waterboarding you to get you to say something to incriminate yourself. Once they get a theory in their heads they will never let it go and will never admit they were wrong no matter what the evidence (or lack thereof) shows.
@ZombieSazza
@ZombieSazza 2 жыл бұрын
Lie detector tests are also inadmissible in court, they can’t be used as evidence. Saying “no” to the test doesn’t make you guilty, but the police will try and pressure you and make you out to be guilty because you won’t “prove it”. This is on top of them lying about results. Always call a lawyer, never take a lie detector test.
@PassTheMarmalade1957
@PassTheMarmalade1957 2 жыл бұрын
For me, it's the fact that the kidnapper was basically *calling the police.* They had Aaron's phone. But nobody answered. The kidnapper had to email a journalist to get noticed!
@CantTellYou
@CantTellYou 2 жыл бұрын
He got lucky in a lot of ways. His prison time won’t be rough either because everybody in there wants some free legal advice
@christyhoehn8244
@christyhoehn8244 2 жыл бұрын
I remember this case and I followed it. That freakin little cop made me so mad!!!!
@christyhoehn8244
@christyhoehn8244 2 жыл бұрын
Love ya back, Mike!❤️ yeah, I read the book “ Victim F” ( F is for FEMALE )…. They went through some harrowing shite man!!!!
@ajw7488
@ajw7488 2 жыл бұрын
@@CantTellYou I would rip the living piss out of a lawyer who ended up in prison with me. Couldn't pay me to take legal advice from a fellow inmate. He looks like a weenie too
@standardyeepz
@standardyeepz 2 жыл бұрын
nice use of 𝗯𝗼𝗹𝗱
@suzannesmith2452
@suzannesmith2452 2 жыл бұрын
I remember this case, but I never heard the update. So sad, the “hoax” was huge news. I am so glad the couple sued the city and won the case.
@Pantheragem
@Pantheragem 2 жыл бұрын
I live in Galt, not really that far, and I don't ever remember hearing the actual outcome of this case. A lot of entities with reason to be embarrassed.
@fionamcfadden5772
@fionamcfadden5772 2 жыл бұрын
@@Pantheragem yh probably bcoz they decided to keep it quiet considering they were probably so embarrassed to have ended up being in the wrong that they would have definitely not wanted the public to know the outcome so kept it quiet as possible as voicing what really happened would have made them look like heartless f'ers so it's not surprising they kept the out come under wraps!..oh but oh if they had ended up being right in what they thought & it turned out the way they said then guarantee you me I am sure you would have heard all about it!..they would have been singing it from the rooftops...
@NoJusticeNoPeace
@NoJusticeNoPeace 2 жыл бұрын
I'm a well-known union organizer and I was accused of extortion. Front page news. The newspaper never bothered to ask me about it or investigate any of the claims. The article claimed I had been turned in to the police, who were investigating. I went down to the police department with a copy of the newspaper and turned myself in at the front desk. They checked with detectives, and they said they had received no complaints and had no interest in me, not even to talk to me. The newspaper eventually ran a retraction... in a tiny paragraph buried on page 15. The accusation that I was an extortionist shaking people down for union dues continued to make the rounds, and to this day makes up a part of a speech a famous far-right journalist gives to conservative groups about the dangers of unions.
@CantTellYou
@CantTellYou 2 жыл бұрын
@@Pantheragem just a very real example of how a newspaper will put a bullshit headline on the front page & then the “corrections” will show up buried in small print somewhere in the back 🙄
@lillymurray8408
@lillymurray8408 2 жыл бұрын
They deserve every penny of itB
@bigbags85
@bigbags85 Жыл бұрын
The fact that police still are allowed to use lie detectors even as a tactic is comical and infuriating lol.
@ANIMAL.LOVERS.DONT.EAT.ANIMALS
@ANIMAL.LOVERS.DONT.EAT.ANIMALS Жыл бұрын
yeah that really bothers me. if they tried to tell me i failed their lie detector test id be like, bitch and i should care about your pseudoscience why?? lol
@marie_84
@marie_84 Жыл бұрын
Especially since we know that lie detectors don't work on people with the narcissistic personality disorder, since they are pathological liars...🙄
@Idonotcommentanymore
@Idonotcommentanymore Жыл бұрын
The worst part is if you decline to take the test, it will hurt your innocence.
@ANIMAL.LOVERS.DONT.EAT.ANIMALS
@ANIMAL.LOVERS.DONT.EAT.ANIMALS Жыл бұрын
@@Idonotcommentanymore false test results will hurt your case anyway
@PalitoSelvatico
@PalitoSelvatico Жыл бұрын
@@ANIMAL.LOVERS.DONT.EAT.ANIMALS no because test results aren't allowed as evidence in court. But fake results will make the suspect nervous leading to the truth...or maybe more lies?? that's why it shouldn't be allowed.
@corrinefink3661
@corrinefink3661 2 жыл бұрын
And that is why most people believe that the first words from you once they start accusing you is “I want a lawyer “. Because they will always try to get you to confess even if you didn’t do it.
@GeekExtremist
@GeekExtremist 2 жыл бұрын
I wonder if the guy told Denise that when he dropped her off. It's kinda odd that you get kidnapped and that's pretty much the first words out of your mouth. The kidnapper know her boyfriend was being accused of doing something to her, so maybe he knew they would think she faked it and tried to help her.
@good1day726
@good1day726 2 жыл бұрын
hilarious. “...I want a lawyer” convo ...for the tv viewers. explained away by some “bipolar” or whatever diag of the day. candidate. enjoy. 📺.
@HybridxReality
@HybridxReality 2 жыл бұрын
I watch a lot of crime videos and I am always so shocked at how people divulge so much information and get caught in a trap rather than simply shutting up and asking for a lawyer. I get that some people want to be helpful and that's the worst part when detectives/cops just want them to be guilty because it makes their lives easier. I always think if I am ever in that situation and I notice a hint of accusation my way, I'd immediately keep my mouth shut and refuse to talk further.
@quanbrooklynkid7776
@quanbrooklynkid7776 2 жыл бұрын
Yea...
@ItsMaisyDaisy
@ItsMaisyDaisy Жыл бұрын
Even my law enforcement friends say to never talk to law enforcement without a lawyer, especially if you're innocent!
@Bambam-nv8re
@Bambam-nv8re 2 жыл бұрын
Imagine taking a polygraph knowing your innocence, but then them lying to you about you lying to them about them accusing you of a lie that’s not a lie at all! This is why you never take a polygraph!
@DiZoSoMom
@DiZoSoMom 2 жыл бұрын
Yep. They cannot be used in court Bc they’re so notoriously unreliable, but if you fail one, good god the cops will find any and all evidence to point things at you! It’s why basically all attorneys insist their clients don’t do them. Or at the very least, they do one that’s performed by an independent tech, outside the police dept.
@nadinewiseman4995
@nadinewiseman4995 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly. And this is how what should be a useful investigative tool becomes completely worthless.
@garyclarke2385
@garyclarke2385 2 жыл бұрын
That's why they aren't allowed in court..ITS WHEN THEY HAVE NOTHING THEY SAY YOU FAILED AND JUST TELL US THE TRUTH...DON'T FORGET THE 2 AND HALF MILLION IS FROM TAXPAYERS POCKETS..IF THE COPS HAD TO PAY 60% OF ALL PAYOUTS THEN THERE WOULD BE LESS, NO MATTER HOW MANY MISTAKES ,WHEN PROVEN WRONG THEY DON'T APOLOGISE AND NEVER PAY A DIME...
@tonyploma2330
@tonyploma2330 2 жыл бұрын
I'm sure he passed the polygraph. They just lied to him about the results. " You failed miserably " . Yeah right . The detectives couldn't look any more incompetent.
@gordonlewis6606
@gordonlewis6606 2 жыл бұрын
@@nadinewiseman4995 I call it voodoo science. NEVER EVER talk to the police/fbi etc without an attorney... these cases are exactly why even the innocent need to have an attorney. PERIOD.
@pinkpele
@pinkpele Жыл бұрын
I am so glad this story has a victorious ending for the poor couple and that not only was justice served, but that they were awarded enough money to start life over together again.
@aj9586
@aj9586 2 жыл бұрын
Apart from the horrific emotional damage to the victims, it’s infuriating that the lawsuit is payed out by the city taxpayers and not the wallets of the investigators/cops
@endless3cho
@endless3cho 2 жыл бұрын
Who get paid by the taxpayer?
@somethingelse4424
@somethingelse4424 2 жыл бұрын
I guess the hope is that it results in higher standards in police hiring and more scrutiny placed on misconduct. If the city budget is completely blown by trying to sweep it under the rug, hopefully we elect competent officials that immediately fire cops who think they can just coast on seniority, power trip, violate civil rights, are incompetent investigators, etc. It's definitely not ideal that we pay for the misconduct of these people, but it's hard to imagine a system where victims of misconduct are fairly compensated AND it comes from the pockets of individual cops. And the alternative being privatized corporations running law enforcement and being responsible for their own liabilities... That's probably creating more of a rats nest of problems than it would solve. I guess this is just what we've got for now. Maybe cops go to prison for breaking the law and victims of the state get significantly less money, and eventually there is an equalization? That's the only other remotely plausible solution I can think of, not saying it would be effective or just.
@lynnkayee1015
@lynnkayee1015 2 жыл бұрын
Its meant to be incentive for the department as a whole. Don't think its as effective as its meant to be. I think it should be both. It also secures the victim gets paid. When its an offense committed by an official on duty, the government should ensure they don't weasel out. That way it makes sure it gets done so some form of compensation cannot be backed out of like a citizen unfortunately can at times.
@SUPERFunStick
@SUPERFunStick 2 жыл бұрын
They're paid with our tax money anyways. So when they screw up, we pay for it. Always been that way and won't change unfortunately. On the other hand though, we're all only human and once in a while, big ass mistakes happen, which is ok. It has to be ok. No system is perfect and hopefully they can either get fired or move onto careers they're better at, or try so much harder to do better next time... I guess. Whatever. Idc
@JessBlake2
@JessBlake2 2 жыл бұрын
@SuperFunStick​, I agree. There has to be room for mistakes and I don't get that this was malicious. It was a really strange story. Ignoring the phone was egregious. But we don't want cops to be scared to act. We should save the punitive consequences for those cops who are intentionally vile and destructive.
@brucedudley2040
@brucedudley2040 2 жыл бұрын
The Vallejo police are also the ones who didn't do very well on the Zodiac as I remember. Even if this WASN'T a kidnapping, turning the phone off and to airplane mode is insane. I'd love for you to keep the Idaho college kids murders on your radar, because I'm getting the feeling that one is going to be very tangled. Another fantastic job Mike.
@quickchris10
@quickchris10 2 жыл бұрын
Well, Zodiac was a long time ago. He was an expert jurisdiction-hopper, and the p.d.s didn't even have faxes to share files, they were so antiquated, much less email. Did you read the book by that detective?
@pakde8002
@pakde8002 2 жыл бұрын
@@quickchris10 despite the lack of technology the police let a lot of stuff slide in that case. He could have been stopped a lot earlier. I mean he wasn't exactly hiding.
@quickchris10
@quickchris10 2 жыл бұрын
@@pakde8002 Incredible case! Thankfully, we have a semblance of a solution, if not justice. I wish we could get as much reduction w/other cases, such as the Austin yoghurt-shop murders & "the Springfield 3."
@rachaelleann9847
@rachaelleann9847 2 жыл бұрын
Been following that case. You hear about the dog being skinned alive like next door I think?
@rachaelleann9847
@rachaelleann9847 2 жыл бұрын
Cops sadly don't ever learn cause they're never held accountable
@Syrius_Li
@Syrius_Li 2 жыл бұрын
You know your police department fucked up when the kidnappers have to literally spell it out to them
@Gnomezonbacon
@Gnomezonbacon 10 ай бұрын
This is why cops went from being respected to hated.
@Mementomori-dk4tl
@Mementomori-dk4tl 9 ай бұрын
Yeah, just like the saying goes ACAB.
@stefanieromay2212
@stefanieromay2212 2 жыл бұрын
I remember this case as I live around where this took place. It was shocking because the PD was so adamant they were lying and faking it and the media went bananas and really went after the poor girl. The lawsuit was glorious
@Acguarnica
@Acguarnica 2 жыл бұрын
amen to that! AMEN TO THAT!
@K1PPAH
@K1PPAH 2 жыл бұрын
Cops lie and try to wrap a case asap to meet a quota. It's disgusting, and they're not your friends.
@17thknight
@17thknight 2 жыл бұрын
The biggest tragedy is this comes out of tax dollars. It should come straight out of the salaries of these moron detectives. All of them deserve to spend the rest of their lives in debt to this couple.
@FlyinRaptorJesus
@FlyinRaptorJesus 2 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately, that lawsuit was paid for by the tax payers in that area.. The people that actually fucked up didn't lose anything.. Just a waste of tax payer money as usual.
@Void_0_Walker
@Void_0_Walker 2 жыл бұрын
I love a happy ending lol
@4Mr.Crowley2
@4Mr.Crowley2 2 жыл бұрын
I have to say the book is incredible. Muller also videotaped the repeated SA of Denise, which was revealed at trial. I can’t even imagine the horror she endured. Denise is a straight-up queen - she is a dignified and tough and great human being (both Aaron and Denise worked at the hospital as physical therapists)
@gracepattie
@gracepattie Жыл бұрын
Why did she say he didn't touch her in that first interview? Stockholm Syndrome, maybe?
@nicklibby3784
@nicklibby3784 Жыл бұрын
Revealed at the trial!?! What!?!? I really hope they didn't actually show that to the whole court, that's something only the judge needs to see and the judge can tell the jury that the video was evident enough.
@amyb1993
@amyb1993 Жыл бұрын
@@nicklibby3784 I assume that the commentor meant that the information was revealed at trial. I doubt they'd show it.
@Elizadoolittle1948
@Elizadoolittle1948 Жыл бұрын
What's the name of the book please?
@kriegfaust
@kriegfaust Жыл бұрын
Victim F.
@debbiem2380
@debbiem2380 2 жыл бұрын
So glad when you said she sued! I was starting to get stressed thinking Denise didn't do anything about it 😂
@Telegrm-Me_MikeOh
@Telegrm-Me_MikeOh 2 жыл бұрын
Hit me up 🚀.
@gigglesinside
@gigglesinside 2 жыл бұрын
@@Telegrm-Me_MikeOh No!
@JohnCena9393
@JohnCena9393 2 жыл бұрын
They problem here is that the money from the lawsuit comes from taxpayers and not from the useless police that failed in this case.
@yvesrongy4355
@yvesrongy4355 2 жыл бұрын
@@JohnCena9393 Because taxpayers don't finance cops? OK!
@Jdeals14
@Jdeals14 2 жыл бұрын
She had an attorney. Yeah, I think she sued
@apalazzolo9435
@apalazzolo9435 Жыл бұрын
2.5 million is not nearly enough money to compensate for having to deal with all that. I can’t imagine how horrible that would feel.
@kellietaylor9913
@kellietaylor9913 Жыл бұрын
Yea it's enough shes physically fine
@DeRussellMasina
@DeRussellMasina 10 ай бұрын
​@@kellietaylor9913is it? She was S. A.
@ayo_thatsweird
@ayo_thatsweird 10 ай бұрын
​@@kellietaylor9913she was not only assaulted, drugged, and went thru mental gymnastics, as soon as she got out of her situation she was labeled as a liar by not only media but also the police and could of been thrown in jail due to the lack of any effort by the police to do any looking into the case other than the narrative they forced into the media. Needless to say, she was physically hurt emotionally hurt by not only the perpetrator but by the people that claim to protect the people. They didn't even have the nerve to admit any wrong doings. It wasn't enough.
@kymmymorgan1551
@kymmymorgan1551 6 ай бұрын
​@@ayo_thatsweird👏 👏 👏 👏
@ugoddessthepoet
@ugoddessthepoet 5 ай бұрын
You say that like 2.5 million is chump change. 😂😂😂 They also wrote a book, have done plenty speaking appearances and have a Netflix documentary. There's def no amount of money that can make up for what was done to them. That I'll agree with.
@sammymiller253
@sammymiller253 2 жыл бұрын
I remember this case. The spokesperson who excoriated them in the press conference had to call another press conference to publicly apologize for his nasty diatribe against the couple. I love that they got over $2 million, but for what they had to endure, they should have gotten much more.
@dianaprince3176
@dianaprince3176 2 жыл бұрын
Wonder why that wasn’t included in this video?
@louniece1650
@louniece1650 2 жыл бұрын
I never saw the apology video. Not surprised.
@r.o.rcatalistninja1848
@r.o.rcatalistninja1848 2 жыл бұрын
This was one of the most unusual cases I have ever heard of.
@jeanaerowley7150
@jeanaerowley7150 2 жыл бұрын
I cannot imagine being raped and the police staring into my eyes saying I made it up. I cannot FATHOM going through this! My heart is broken for the victims 💔🤬
@Emma-lf5jg
@Emma-lf5jg 2 жыл бұрын
NWA said it best. F**k the police 🤬
@cw2010
@cw2010 2 жыл бұрын
Happens often, especially if you’re not white or a sex worker
@ky9933
@ky9933 2 жыл бұрын
@Flicks Shut up, loser. Males get raped BY OTHER MALES.
@timothy2935
@timothy2935 2 жыл бұрын
@@cw2010 especially IF your not white !? Yeah okay . God you're so narrow minded . This happend to my WHITE girlfriend . infact I've known way more white girls accused of lying about sexual abuse. Cops believe white men more than other races of men saying they didn't do it so your narrative doesn't even make sense !
@katiebarber407
@katiebarber407 Жыл бұрын
@Flicks due to the patriarchy treating men like less of a man if they are a victim, I would bargain that that causes men not to report rape more than anything else
@msuplee1234
@msuplee1234 10 ай бұрын
Netflix just put out the 3-part documentary “American Nightmare” about this.. Those cops should all be FIRED
@captainthrall
@captainthrall 2 жыл бұрын
Imagine your partner gets kidnapped right out of your bed and the police tell you, "I ain't buyin it."
@jpara617
@jpara617 Жыл бұрын
Because usually it's the partner murdering the other and then reporting them missing...
@annared2000
@annared2000 Жыл бұрын
I would lose my shit, i love my partner so much. She’s all ive been thinking about this whole video
@StellaKnights
@StellaKnights Жыл бұрын
they also told him he failed the lie detector which proves they dont work, unless it was a hoax
@hansmahr8627
@hansmahr8627 Жыл бұрын
Doubting the story wasn't even the issue. The story was totally bonkers and sounds like a bad movie plot. This is the type of stuff people invent to cover up crimes. However, as an investigator, you can't just say 'this is bullshit' and then ignore everything that doesn't fit your theory. You need to investigate whether your intuition is correct. Unlikely stories can be true. Victims of assault and other horrible crimes can appear calm and collected. Intuitions can be wrong. They simply didn't investigate. The fact that they announced their 'conclusions' to the public even though they didn't have solid evidence for their theory is insane.
@darkhorse7460
@darkhorse7460 Жыл бұрын
I imagine that's what would happen because that's what it looks like.
@amberjheard
@amberjheard 2 жыл бұрын
I feel so sorry for the couple, but especially her . She was victimized over and over. How horrific and so shameful of that police department.. I'm glad they won their lawsuit and the correct person is in jail. Thanks for great story telling as always Mike!
@The_Insanity_Of_Spilled_Milk
@The_Insanity_Of_Spilled_Milk 2 жыл бұрын
Honestly I thought she was guilty as sin. I couldn't see those weird ass emails not coming from a narcissistic psycho and while right about the psycho, she wasn't it.
@johnarnold8941
@johnarnold8941 2 жыл бұрын
@@The_Insanity_Of_Spilled_Milk Sounded like Jon Benet Ramsey case ransom letter.
@amberjheard
@amberjheard 2 жыл бұрын
@@The_Insanity_Of_Spilled_Milk yes sounded outlandish for sure can't argue there, but that's their job to investigate and not jump to the easiest conclusion because the answer is staring them in the face.
@sew_gal7340
@sew_gal7340 2 жыл бұрын
Sorry but it sounded fake ASF, i don't blame them at all. As for the victims they got a huge paycheck from the city, a book deal, a story that they can tell for decades, and a ton of pity from social media...it's a win in the end for them.
@frjcde9392
@frjcde9392 2 жыл бұрын
Hopefully they left that awful state. 2.5 million isn’t that much in commiefornia
@chrisbaker5568
@chrisbaker5568 2 жыл бұрын
It’s sad that these investigators were so bad at their job that the CRIMINAL was trying to convince them it wasn’t staged, and they STILL denied it.. Shows how some police just wanna pin it on someone and move on to the next case smh. Hopefully they were punished
@nkup8844
@nkup8844 Жыл бұрын
He wanted credit for his criminal acts, and was pissed off that that wasn’t happening
@SlickArmor
@SlickArmor Жыл бұрын
I'm sure they were punished. They were told to go home for a month of paid leave until this all blows over.
@c.o3301
@c.o3301 Жыл бұрын
To be fair neither of them sounded believable
@Smunchnuu
@Smunchnuu Жыл бұрын
Punished with a nice salary, benefits, and an ever increasing budget for their department I'm sure 😕
@supastar25
@supastar25 Жыл бұрын
They never even care about finding out what happened...they just wanna pin it on someone and mark that case as closed...for their stats.
@FireArrowsFlee
@FireArrowsFlee Жыл бұрын
I’ve seen Denise’s interrogation recently as a ‘bad liar, faking kidnapping’ it amazes me they don’t update or change the titles to suit the current change.
@BAW47
@BAW47 2 жыл бұрын
Welp, that was a wild ride. I had never heard of this case.... please tell me that I'm not the only one. Thank you for the magnificent content Mike. Most consistent and creative true crime KZbinr. You always make my day!
@kimmoran4437
@kimmoran4437 2 жыл бұрын
Never heard of it either. I was hoping it wasn't the Sherri Papini case again!
@FK-lq8zf
@FK-lq8zf 2 жыл бұрын
I spent the whole time initially thinking the kidnapping was certainly bs
@commonsense571
@commonsense571 2 жыл бұрын
Never heard of it! … crazy!!
@CantTellYou
@CantTellYou 2 жыл бұрын
Never knew of it, but I’ve also never heard of most the stories he covers...even when everyone in the comments apparently knows every detail (it’s the only “true crime” channel I watch)
@realeques
@realeques 2 жыл бұрын
Adrian is as consistent and as good. Both channels deserve to be at the top to be honest.
@aye70aye
@aye70aye 2 жыл бұрын
This is off the scale crazy! Egg of the Police's collective faces here, to have the perp so outraged they dont believe one of his victims he has to highlight it?? Wow. Amazing once again Mike, we love ya.
@guardmommad5084
@guardmommad5084 2 жыл бұрын
Two things I've learned from watching true crime videos. 1st, never take a polygraph. 2nd, always have an attorney present when speaking to the police. That was just lazy police work. Wow. What a crazy case. And no one was murdered. Thanks Mike! Love ya ❤️
@youhaventwashedmytings
@youhaventwashedmytings Жыл бұрын
Always Remember: The cops can lie to you about whatever they want!
@JoshSweetvale
@JoshSweetvale Жыл бұрын
It's not Cthulhu that makes people shit their pants in terror at the realization of their place in the universe. It's cops beating you into a cerebral hemmhorage for daring to call them for help.
@Rzo139
@Rzo139 Жыл бұрын
@@JoshSweetvale Stfu. Lovecraft sucks.
@TheChristianNomad
@TheChristianNomad Жыл бұрын
Unfortunately if you ask for a lawyer immediately in a case like this it's likely to not get solved. Because they so often refuse to interview you with a lawyer, so they will just proceed without crucial details because they aew butthurt that you won't let them lie and abuse you. I need to find the one video with Jacksonville PD where an abduction happened and the guy who witness it and called police could tell on scene that from the moment the police arrived they were looking to pin it on him so he asked for a lawyer immediately. The detective threw his pen, was slamming things down telling the guy that the woman was going to die because of him, put the guy in 48hr holding cell. They waited 14 days to interview him, the only eye witness, inly interviewer after finding her body. The woman could have been alive for 10 days and we'd never know because the police wanted to pin it on the witness and refused to do their job after he asked for an attorney.
@ellastar78
@ellastar78 10 ай бұрын
Never visit a cop shop. Cops are not your friend. 🤡🌏
@Xxxxxx19-p1c
@Xxxxxx19-p1c Жыл бұрын
“YOUR NETWORK CALLED IT THAT” Thank you, Mike, for making that point!!
@maggiebeth5442
@maggiebeth5442 2 жыл бұрын
I hope the police learn from this case and are reminded not to get tunnel vision. The story was bizarre but sometimes the truth is stranger than fiction. Great coverage as always Mike, thank you and we love you too! x
@Novocain-stain
@Novocain-stain 2 жыл бұрын
You and I have very different hopes on the outcome we wish for the police. They don’t learn, it took them years to apologize.
@ChoppingtonOtter
@ChoppingtonOtter 2 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately police suffer terrible confirmation bias once they suspect someone.
@quickchris10
@quickchris10 2 жыл бұрын
She was calm after being kidnaped because being kidnaped is just part of the California experience.
@PFBM86
@PFBM86 2 жыл бұрын
"police" "learn" HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
@Seawitch555
@Seawitch555 2 жыл бұрын
@@Novocain-stain you’re right. They’re egos won’t let them see the truth. Fucking pigs.
@bodang158
@bodang158 2 жыл бұрын
Fascinating case Mike. I can't believe that in this day and age law enforcement still uses the ol' "well she was so calm" or "he wasn't freaking out" to decide if someone is being truthful or not. I mean, how much more proof is needed that there is no right or wrong way a victim is supposed to act after a crime has been committed against them. Every human being is going to act in their own unique way. Some calmly, some not, etc.
@alisaishere
@alisaishere Жыл бұрын
It's like shock just ceases to exist when the police are involved. When talk about natural reactions in the body to stressful events and freeze is one of them, it shouldn't be a surprise that people freeze and just go through the motions.
@lovelyjanuary
@lovelyjanuary Жыл бұрын
@@alisaishere exactly! And let’s not forget that the Menendez brothers were literally freaking the f out and basically out of their minds with “grief and shock” on the scene when “they discovered” their parents who had been murdered. ….. by them it turns out obviously, but that show of emotion and those reactions were talked about at the time as how it seemed almost impossible to think that they were the actual killers because I guess so many people really actually bought in to their over the top dramatics so much and believed it so genuinely that, in an interesting juxtaposition to this case, they thought it meant they were innocent even after they were charged and stood trial. It just goes to show that even real police detectives shouldn’t play “psychotherapist” or pretend to be an expert at masterminding criminal behavior and just look at the evidence and facts lol.
@rayagray6321
@rayagray6321 Жыл бұрын
I'm a diagnosed sociopath and tend to be very calm when in bad situations and tend to not show much emotion. People always think I'm lying just because I'm not freaking out like everyone else. Or think I don't care. But I do. I just don't have all the emotions behind it like everyone else. Basically I have the whole sh*t happens attitude. When I was drugged and raped I was calm and acted like it was a normal day when I had to report it and tell my story over and over. The cops thought I was lying the whole time until the guys friend came forward and told them he knew what his friend did and had proof. And then finally they believed me. People react differently and people need to start understanding that. There is no right way to react to trauma of any kind.
@BeRightBack131
@BeRightBack131 Жыл бұрын
Having been a victim of kidnapping and SA, I still remember when the police showed up, and that weird, long, long ride to the hospital (maybe a 10 minute drive, but it's been stuck in my mind for over 40 years that it seemed never-ending, yet at the same time, came in clips, like someone sporadically edited out bits and pieces). Anyway, the point I was going to make was the police kept glancing at me like they expected something out of me... tears, anger, something. Instead, I was in so much shock that I was numb, completely quiet and calm. But I really wasn't calm, it just LOOKED like I was calm. I've always wondered, to this day even, if they truly believed me since I was so quiet and non-responsive. They did catch the guy who did it, I testified, and he was convicted, but still, I've always wondered if they actually believed me. So Denise showing up calm and collected? It doesn't surprise me at all. She was probably in a state of shock, like I was.
@alexmason5521
@alexmason5521 Жыл бұрын
@@rayagray6321there is no such thing as a diagnosed sociopath.
@lindseyhudson1274
@lindseyhudson1274 2 жыл бұрын
I so remember this because I live in the Bay Area and it was all over the news. I watched an interview with them on a local channel before Matthew was found and I thought they were totally believable. It was evident the pain on her face and his frustration was palpable. I fully believed them. And when Matthew was located and tied I remember saying to my brother that the asshole cop better come out and personally apologize. Of course he didn’t. Thank god that Detective Misty was actually detecting clues and noticed similarities. Otherwise we still might not have the truth.
@johnryan1798
@johnryan1798 2 жыл бұрын
Perhaps I need to watch this again, but did Denise say there were 4 kidnappers?
@Bad4bizbrad
@Bad4bizbrad 2 жыл бұрын
Funny, I grew up in the Bay Area as well. Also used to live in Vallejo for quite some time. Went to Franklin middle and attended Hogan HS (back when it was a high school). I never even heard of this case until now. I’ve also been to Mare Island plenty of times. This case was insane.
@batchagaloopytv5816
@batchagaloopytv5816 2 жыл бұрын
@@johnryan1798 yes -she heard multiple voices(whisper level) and the guy said he say two sets of legs before goggles were put over his eyes 🤷‍♂️
@johnryan1798
@johnryan1798 2 жыл бұрын
@@batchagaloopytv5816 That explains the goggles and recordings. I get it now. It was 2 am here in Texas when I listened to Mike. Wasn't quite awake!
@lynnlynn9124
@lynnlynn9124 2 жыл бұрын
@@johnryan1798 I think I remember that he set it up like that on purpose with extra flashlight beams and pretending to talk with others. I've seen this case on one of the bigger shows like Dateline. This case shows why false accusations are so dangerous for legitimate victims. People who are proven to have made false accusations (some were caught on CCTV while setting up the story) should automatically have to be charged. Maybe it will deter future hoaxters.
@bt4582
@bt4582 Жыл бұрын
Gosh I am glad Aaron and Denise were eventually vindicated and nothing worse happened to Denise!! How crazy that Matt was a decorated marine and Harvard law school graduate (before falling victim to psychosis as a result of sleep deprivation from medication for bipolar personality). PS Aaron and Denise are like the most beautiful couple ever!
@robincharles7057
@robincharles7057 2 жыл бұрын
Did they even run a drug test on Aaron after he told them he'd been drugged? The Valium would have still been detectable when he called police... they could still have their doubts, but it may have opened them up more to the possibility he was telling the truth if they saw he did have that in his system. Did they run any tests on Denise when she was found? Denise and Aaron's daughter was born 5 years to the day after she was released. 🥺 I'm so glad they had each other to lean on when they were being falsely accused. I hope they have a really happy life together and are able to heal as much as possible. Glad they got the settlement, but really think that officer should still make a public apology.
@jomama5186
@jomama5186 2 жыл бұрын
I agree
@jamieingels1190
@jamieingels1190 2 жыл бұрын
Common sense isn't allowed in this realm! Where have you come from, and who sent you?!
@helengren9349
@helengren9349 2 жыл бұрын
Aparently they didn't even check apartment for any traces of people broke in...
@robincharles7057
@robincharles7057 Жыл бұрын
@@Yes-iu3kr Testing under voluntary medical treatment wouldn't have been admissible at all later on? 😕 Whether admissible in court or not i do wonder if it would have influenced them on whether they saw the story as credible.
@kristienorsedragonwebber1328
@kristienorsedragonwebber1328 Жыл бұрын
That was my first thought, too!
@Brandibb
@Brandibb 2 жыл бұрын
I mean... it did sound like an unbelievable story. BUT if they tracked where phone calls and emails originated, they might have been able to see that it wasn't a hoax. I can't imagine not being believed after something as scary as that happening to me.
@Zoykzmc
@Zoykzmc 2 жыл бұрын
Plenty of ways to make them untraceable...
@realeques
@realeques 2 жыл бұрын
@@Zoykzmc well maybe turning airplane mode off on Aarons phone and just answering the Kidnappers calls would be a start 🤔 also i would like to know about the "plenty of ways to make them untraceable" because a call needs a public endpoint on each side to be routed to unless you're planning to provide the news with and call them on walkie talkies
@lillymurray8408
@lillymurray8408 2 жыл бұрын
They used Aaron’s email account. So I’m not sure that would’ve worked. They probably had proxies set up too if they were smart enough to ask for his login info.
@Zoykzmc
@Zoykzmc 2 жыл бұрын
@@realeques Emails sent through tor or other similar browsers can't be traced, thats the whole point of them. You can also call through web services or use a payed simcard that's not attached to yourself.
@lillymurray8408
@lillymurray8408 2 жыл бұрын
Also. Did u not hear? Like I mentioned about proxies. They used a private server. Aka a proxy…
@nancymullendore
@nancymullendore 2 жыл бұрын
It's not the story it's WHO tells the story and, MIKE, you are the absolute best! My absolute favorite of all time. Please don't ever stop.
@TheREALDanontheMoon
@TheREALDanontheMoon 2 жыл бұрын
seriously
@heathertaylor8904
@heathertaylor8904 Жыл бұрын
I can't imagine how these two felt in those moments, knowing what they knew, yet bring accused of lying. Too many people know the horror of being sexually assaulted and accused of lying, but this is a whole other level of disgusting.
@deeceepnw
@deeceepnw 2 жыл бұрын
Great coverage Mike! This case is why the city lost their insurance coverage. It was the last straw. Their incompetence and police bullying caught up and they are now have to be self-insured as a city. V-town is my birthplace (my dad was stationed @Mare Island NS back in the day). My brother is an attorney, who still lives there and has consulted on city affairs. As the saying goes, “they screwed the pooch” on this one. Their arrogance and incompetence knows no bounds.
@K3NDRAKRAY
@K3NDRAKRAY 2 жыл бұрын
Wow I did not even know cities were insured that's wild. If I was part of the team of investigators responsible I would resign and change my career. Unforgiveable. Happy to hear the victims were compensated!
@jeffcampbell2710
@jeffcampbell2710 2 жыл бұрын
No cop has higher than 125 in IQ. And it's not the norm. They can be as low as 80, 79 is considered challenged. The average is around 100. There's a supreme Court case about it. Man was denied, AFTER passing top of class at the Academy because he scored 135 on his test. He sued, but the Supreme Court ruled that IQ is not Discrimination
@michelemcmullen9103
@michelemcmullen9103 2 жыл бұрын
It’s nice to see you cover a case where no one ends up dead! 😂
@jamiefors5062
@jamiefors5062 2 жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣
@blackdandelion5549
@blackdandelion5549 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe that's the oddest thing here?
@namk9gear363
@namk9gear363 2 жыл бұрын
Yes…. MORE PLEASE!!!
@scorch4299
@scorch4299 2 жыл бұрын
He didnt deserve all that time. He even fought to clear them when he didnt have to. Seems like a smart dude. Didnt hurt anyone physically. I dont think I woulda convicted him if I was on the jury....not for that amount of time.
@karenamyx2205
@karenamyx2205 2 жыл бұрын
I really wish I could scroll the comments AS I'm watching the video. But no.. It's my own fault, I know that.. but I have ADHD.. It helps keep me focused!
@catherinedoyle1194
@catherinedoyle1194 10 ай бұрын
From a 60yr old homeless old lady, thank you for bringing a Ray of sunshine into my sad little life, thanks so much❤😊
@emilykro1
@emilykro1 10 ай бұрын
♥️
@scathatch
@scathatch 2 жыл бұрын
This was a good one. Re denise being so calm. People can become dead calm in stressful situations. I know. That has been my reaction. For me I saw it as a survival mechanism and also a kind of desensitizing process.
@no_peace
@no_peace 2 жыл бұрын
I'm dead cold when I'm that far gone
@thefirm4606
@thefirm4606 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed, I go to auto-pilot. It comes (for me) from an abusive childhood and it’s definitely a survival trait for me! ❤
@kashigata
@kashigata 2 жыл бұрын
I have a similar response to mad situations. For example I was in a bank when it was robbed at gun point. I was dead calm until about 4 or 5 hours later. Then I lost it.
@area51l
@area51l 2 жыл бұрын
100%. I grew up in an abusive household and dissociating was one of my coping mechanisms.
@jasonallen3678
@jasonallen3678 2 жыл бұрын
Me too
@NovaSuperSport11
@NovaSuperSport11 2 жыл бұрын
What an insane case! Poor Aaron and Denise, the turmoil and stress this must have caused. I imagine it impacted their lives both, personally and professionally. I wish them all the best things in life .
@tanyarose4473
@tanyarose4473 10 ай бұрын
Came from Netflix just to hear my favorite Irish lad tell the story better. ❤
@vermilliongecko
@vermilliongecko 6 ай бұрын
It's often the way!
@TheTonialadd
@TheTonialadd 2 жыл бұрын
This is officially the weirdest case I’ve ever heard of! Good job Mike! Love ya!
@paulinamorales8854
@paulinamorales8854 2 жыл бұрын
He absolutely used the blowup doll to simulate someone else in the room, and used the recordings of whispering to make it even more confusing and make it feel like there was even more people around. That. Is. Terrifying. He was alone all along.
@littleredwitch
@littleredwitch 2 жыл бұрын
The SOB was batshit crazy and the cops miserably inefficient 🤬 They should have been sued for a lot more.
@jeffcampbell2710
@jeffcampbell2710 2 жыл бұрын
This guy could've gotten away with some serious crimes. He is super intelligent. I think there was probably one more involved, because he said 2 to 8. The doll, or two, made 3-4. If he had not had a conscience, he'd still be free.
@lg6707
@lg6707 2 жыл бұрын
@@jeffcampbell2710 He didn't get caught for having a conscience you give him too much credit he got caught by dropping his phone at another rape and kidnapping attempt.
@Dad......
@Dad...... 2 жыл бұрын
Reduces resistance I suppose. That old asian man wasn't having any of it.
@Dad......
@Dad...... 2 жыл бұрын
@@jeffcampbell2710 Agreed. I think he drew the short straw and took the fall.
@tammykelsey7877
@tammykelsey7877 2 жыл бұрын
WOW! This may be the craziest case I ever heard of! I feel SO sorry for the victims! ❤️🙏✌🏻
@Red_Lanterns_Rage
@Red_Lanterns_Rage 2 жыл бұрын
so....the cops then?? the town?? who's the victims in this?? LMFAO!!!! 🤣🤣🤣😂
@alandrosstettina1843
@alandrosstettina1843 2 жыл бұрын
@@Red_Lanterns_Rage the police??
@daveffs1935
@daveffs1935 Жыл бұрын
So the trick to getting away with it is to make it sound like the victim made the whole thing up "I swear officer, someone in a giant cucumber outfit tied me up and was throwing pickles at me while they sang auld lang syne"
@remedy9648
@remedy9648 2 жыл бұрын
Been in the hospital and now stuck inside for weeks healing but nothing makes me feel better then hearing “let’s give it a gooo” and seeing the man himself! Love your new, longer format, you rock! ❤
@ViVALaKiRAxx
@ViVALaKiRAxx 2 жыл бұрын
Get better soon! ❤
@johnrodehaver7012
@johnrodehaver7012 2 жыл бұрын
I'm in the hospital right now been in & out since September 7th 40 days total Mike makes it a lil better I hope all is well with u soon wishing u a speedy recovery
@ThumpersMama18
@ThumpersMama18 2 жыл бұрын
Hope you are doing ok. My migraines have been so bad I feel disabled. Nice to have a new video to take my mind off the pain for a few
@laurabustos6560
@laurabustos6560 2 жыл бұрын
Hope you feel much better quickly!! Mucho mejor!! 🙏 Positive vibes and healing thoughts sent your way.
@laurabustos6560
@laurabustos6560 2 жыл бұрын
@@ThumpersMama18 preach! I'm on like 3 meds plus a few procedures for migraines. Absolutely horrible!
@capnseriousnap
@capnseriousnap 2 жыл бұрын
This story was batshit crazy!! I can't imagine the horror of going through something like this to then not be believed by the police, outrageous
@julz3tt3
@julz3tt3 Жыл бұрын
Having to prove yourself while fretful your Fiance may be dead would be the worst thing to experience. Not only were you part of a kidnapping but the police thought you were telling shite
@kitcat2449
@kitcat2449 10 ай бұрын
I just watched the Netflix documentary. It was even worse when Denise revealed that she had been SA:d for the first time she was 12 but was too confused and scared to tell anyone. Then for the second time when she was 19, this time she went to the police but the officer talked her out of it because it was 'word against word.' And then for the third time when this happened, and even when there was evidence and the case was severe she still wasn’t believed or helped. Very frustrating.
@maryturner6272
@maryturner6272 2 жыл бұрын
This is such a crazy story. Its sad that they weren't believed.
@Telegrm-Me_MikeOh
@Telegrm-Me_MikeOh 2 жыл бұрын
Hit me up 👆👆"""
@revolutionunderground
@revolutionunderground 2 жыл бұрын
THIS HAPPENS TO NARCISSISTIC ABUSE/RAPE VICTIMS ALL THE TIME! COPS BELIEVE THE ABUSERS WHEN THEY SAY THE VICTIMS HAVE MENTAL ISSUES AND DIDN'T REMEMBER CORRECTLY! LOOK AT GABBY PETITO!
@aureliesophie5093
@aureliesophie5093 Жыл бұрын
When the kidnapper is more empathic and apologetic than the police or the journalists
@UBwalkswiththeKing
@UBwalkswiththeKing 2 жыл бұрын
Poor Denise and Aaron! What a terrible situation, to seek help from the police and not only getting none, but to be accused of staging a crime and to be ridiculed and shamed on top of it. Did they win their case against the PD? They deserve every penny and more. Thank you for sharing this one Mike. You always create interesting and detailed content and are one of my favorites in the true crime community.
@amandathompson444
@amandathompson444 2 жыл бұрын
what an interesting story! so glad Denise was awarded millions bc her and her husband damn sure deserved it after all they went thru 😞
@galesalinas964
@galesalinas964 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you, Mike, for covering this story. I live in the Sacramento area and this crazy case came to my mind after the Sherry Papini updates. I remember how they tried to link the two cases. I'm glad it eventually got sorted out and Aaron and Denise were proven innocent.
@koalabear3427
@koalabear3427 Жыл бұрын
This case was CRAZY. I can't imagine going to police for help and not being believed.
@msbunnymrabbit
@msbunnymrabbit 2 жыл бұрын
I was not at all familiar with this story and this is probably my favorite TC episode of all time. Because I had no idea how it was going to turn out. I had an idea they were going to be exonerated but didn't know how. This was awesome Mike, (as all your stuff is)thank you!!
@whitedragoness23
@whitedragoness23 2 жыл бұрын
It suits mike’s story telling style.
@goopah
@goopah 2 жыл бұрын
Also my favorite episode. It helps that nobody got killed in this one anyway. But yeah, i was hanging on every word.
@s.castellino4306
@s.castellino4306 2 жыл бұрын
You always present cases that are absolute bonkers and I think "this case can't be any crazier than the last" yeah this one is definitely top bizarre and bonkers. Take care of yourself too, Love ya Mike!
@kylieh123
@kylieh123 2 жыл бұрын
This case is insane. That poor woman went through an horrific ordeal and was then victimized more, publicly. It's also another reason why Sherri Papini should be jailed because she made it more difficult for real victims.
@nicolenotizieeamici
@nicolenotizieeamici 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly
@luminvader8911
@luminvader8911 2 жыл бұрын
She def should have even been jailed longer. Another woman disappeared at the same time sherry faked her kidnapping. Because sherry lied all attention was on her and none on the other missing woman. So not only did she waste gov sources she also stole all attention from a real victim. Beyond aggravating that she didn't get sent for 10 yrs at least. Imo that's 100% what she deserves.
@thareelhelloagain
@thareelhelloagain 2 жыл бұрын
Every single one of these worthless cops need to lose their jobs and be banned from ever holding any position of authority ever again.
@judyshinohara
@judyshinohara Жыл бұрын
Wow. "Truth is stranger than fiction" doesn't even begin to describe this case.
@sherriitsamea3476
@sherriitsamea3476 2 жыл бұрын
I remembered this story with your first sentence & that’s a miracle cause my memory is terrible these days. Absolutely unbelievable case
@jordanbottom9921
@jordanbottom9921 2 жыл бұрын
Just got to say, I've been a subscriber since you were at 40k and you were always great at this but you've somehow gone up another level, it's insane man. Kudos and thanks for what you do!!!
@kashigata
@kashigata 2 жыл бұрын
Totally agree with you. This was a tour de force of true crime telling!
@amazingsupergirl7125
@amazingsupergirl7125 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah but it’s not as personal, which sucks. No more inside jokes or love
@badabing8152
@badabing8152 2 жыл бұрын
lmfao shut up Jordan. I was a subscriber since he was at 19 subscribers
@dewilew2137
@dewilew2137 2 жыл бұрын
Aww that was such a kind and thoughtful comment 🤗 😍
@jordanbottom9921
@jordanbottom9921 2 жыл бұрын
@@badabing8152 ?
@stephaneechristine4095
@stephaneechristine4095 2 жыл бұрын
I was friends with Denise in high school. She's a really good person. I never believed that she lied.
@billfromnowhere7687
@billfromnowhere7687 2 жыл бұрын
That's a bot-iful story.
@chasemanatad3051
@chasemanatad3051 2 жыл бұрын
@@billfromnowhere7687 shadap boy
@Snarl_Marx
@Snarl_Marx 2 жыл бұрын
🧢
@IvoryDraco
@IvoryDraco Жыл бұрын
By far the scariest part of this all is the cops not believing them, let alone blaming them.
@indiashante1560
@indiashante1560 2 жыл бұрын
$2.5 million isn't enough money to make up for how the police treated this couple. I couldn't imagine having something so horrific happened to me and then not be believed. Then when the police find out that they're wrong they take forever to actually apologize. All those involved should be ashamed of themselves.
@DocAnaStasia
@DocAnaStasia 2 жыл бұрын
This is fascinating to me since he did commit this crime and traumatized this woman and her family. On the other hand he has empathy for her when the police royally screw up. He also let her go. I’d really like to know if their is a concrete diagnosis on the perpetrator. Never heard of this one, so thanks Mike!!
@KamalasFakePolls
@KamalasFakePolls 2 жыл бұрын
He half-assed evil
@Yes-iu3kr
@Yes-iu3kr Жыл бұрын
That wasn't empathy. That was narcissm. You know how some serial killers write letters to claim responsibility because they want the infamy? Same thing.
@nicklibby3784
@nicklibby3784 Жыл бұрын
I think it was probably the dude had a hatred for police being a criminal and all so just wanted to point out how bad they were and focus less attention on himself or something
@Shadow_gamer9501
@Shadow_gamer9501 Жыл бұрын
I thought the same regards diagnosis etc
@rosesarered3904
@rosesarered3904 Жыл бұрын
@@Yes-iu3kr He did show empathy for her and him. He asked the police to stop victimizing them again and said that they were good people. He wasn't only upset for the police dismissal of the crime but for they way they were portraying both of them to the public and vilifying them.
@sunnystigmata9109
@sunnystigmata9109 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Mike...I've been watching your channel for years and have always found your videos to be a highlight of my day. Recently I was hospitalized and told I have a advanced stage of cancer. Having this awful news dropped on my lap I later that day got a notification that you just made a new video. To say it helped me smile when I needed it would be a understatement. Thank you Mike for these videos an you being you. It's my favorite channel.
@tinawindham6958
@tinawindham6958 2 жыл бұрын
I’m so sorry to hear that nasty word. My friend and I were discussing cancer treatments just last week, he lives in south Florida and told me about soursops. I told him about moringa olefera. Both are healers.,I grow mine and just eat the moringa leaves and seeds. Please take care , be proactive to heal yourself while still listening to your doctors.,I hope you have a good support system. I have pets😉. Much healing 🙏🙏🙏
@krow7402
@krow7402 2 жыл бұрын
Yo, good luck with your cancer. We have so many huge advancements in oncology, I'm sure you'll be fine. In the meantime, ask your doctor about a cancer study done in Toronto with Jemperli (Dostarlimab). The study was done by Memorial Sloan Kettering Cancer Center.
@mycreativeheart4159
@mycreativeheart4159 2 жыл бұрын
My thoughts are with you Sunny. I hope your days can become peaceful and restful. My good friend and neighbour was just diagnosed 4 weeks ago... with ovarian cancer that has metastisized into her abdomen. She finally gets to see the oncologist this week to set up a treatment plan. I'm trying to help her as much as I can ...(as much as she lets me). Sending you love and Hugs.💞
@LaurieValdez-zk3dy
@LaurieValdez-zk3dy 5 ай бұрын
Mike I will never understand why humans do this. Thank you very much Philadelphia USA 🇺🇸 Nostrovia ❤❤❤
@keister1169
@keister1169 2 жыл бұрын
Loving the longer format. Ngl, Friday I wasn’t entirely on board with the new release schedule… but then I remembered that what I want doesn’t matter and you’re gonna release top tier content at your own pace. Glad to see it’s worth the wait! Thanks for the hard work. Keep it up!
@annaritavrabel
@annaritavrabel 2 жыл бұрын
I’m currently bouncing between your old videos and staying updated with your new ones and I love it!! Always playing in the background throughout my day. Thank you Mike for everything! 🤍🤍🤍
@Nufatec
@Nufatec 2 жыл бұрын
Ive seen my fair share of content creators. To be honest, Mike is really one of the best out there
@CashelOConnolly
@CashelOConnolly 2 жыл бұрын
You’ll not find a better true crime channel
@hillbillymal9351
@hillbillymal9351 2 жыл бұрын
I found Mike a few years ago and binge watched all his videos from before I found him so l can honestly say I have watched EVERY video he has put out and by far he is my favourite true crime channel
@juliancampelll
@juliancampelll 2 жыл бұрын
Haha me too.
@ObiWanCannabi
@ObiWanCannabi 2 жыл бұрын
don't forget to thank the people that make these stories possible lol
@hilarydillerydock2495
@hilarydillerydock2495 2 жыл бұрын
This is the best one you’ve done yet!!! Twists and turns, wow… we think you are amazing, Mike!!!! Thanks, keep ‘em coming!!
@loretta_3843
@loretta_3843 Жыл бұрын
That's frightening! It's not bad enough that you're a victim of a crime but when you ask for help, you're accused of all sorts!😳
@LoveThinkLaugh
@LoveThinkLaugh 2 жыл бұрын
This case is insane and immediately reminded me of the Cindy James case (another instance of the victim not being believed), which I don’t think you’ve covered. I’d love to see your take on it. Fantastic work, as always, Mike! We appreciate you!
@brandonneal4957
@brandonneal4957 2 жыл бұрын
Cindy James from unsolved mysteries???? Canadian??? Stalked??? Unaliving was ruled a self unaliving???
@lovelyscorp79
@lovelyscorp79 2 жыл бұрын
Mannnnnn, I hope those detectives on that case never know peace. As a nurse. You have to give so much to do that job. I've stumbled out of work after 16 hours exhausted and the last thing I'd want to deal with is a stalker. So You go to the cops, they do nothing, you're murdered, and they had the audacity to ask the question was it murder or suicide!!!!!!! Yup she bound her own hands behind her back choked herself out and dumped her own body in the grass. Like it's Canda but come on!!!!!
@pettykittyfam
@pettykittyfam 2 жыл бұрын
Oh wait I know that case ... Unbelievable really how she was not believed and was eventually murdered (imo)... Would love to see Mike cover it too.
@Jaker2123
@Jaker2123 2 жыл бұрын
Oooohhhhh that is a FASCINATING story!
@Jaker2123
@Jaker2123 2 жыл бұрын
@@brandonneal4957 that’s the one.
@benmcreynolds8581
@benmcreynolds8581 2 жыл бұрын
WOW, they literally had the "initial suspect's phone on airplane mode 📳" WTF... So the suspect missed a ton of messages from people while, they wasted a ton of time interrogating him and saying he failed a lie detector test. I'm part way in. I'm interested to see how this will go... This is a odd one...
@robertm3951
@robertm3951 2 жыл бұрын
Lie detectors are the biggest lie. Never volunteer to take a polygraph.
@CryptomasterLeviathan
@CryptomasterLeviathan 2 жыл бұрын
Police put seized phones in airplane mode because they aren't allowed to use the phone to access data from the internet, that would require another warrant. It is basically the quick and easy way to say, "whatever we found was on the phone when it was seized." But obviously this wouldn't have been an issue if they didn't handle the situation so poorly to begin with.
@aloha9722
@aloha9722 2 жыл бұрын
I like that you like Patrick Gavia’s channel :)
@AnnaSenPrice
@AnnaSenPrice 2 жыл бұрын
Mike, this is right up there as one of my favourite videos by you - if not my actual favourite!!!!!! Such a different subject, so weird and mysterious, and no murder as such. So bizarre, and a final ending that was victorious for the victims after so much shit and disbelief. And so well presented! I couldn’t stop watching, and I’ve been watching you for about 4 years… you’re better & better. Thank you 😊
@kashigata
@kashigata 2 жыл бұрын
Totally agree with those sentiments!
@seasharpdeflat
@seasharpdeflat 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, well presented.
@CinCity29
@CinCity29 Жыл бұрын
easily one of the craziest stories ive heard on this channel. glad that at the end of the day they were proven to be innocent and got at least some compensation for their troubles even though the trauma will never go away.
@tabithasirek2112
@tabithasirek2112 2 жыл бұрын
This is the most insane story! How was this not more widespread? That poor couple. I can’t even imagine what hell they went through.
@TruthAndTattoos
@TruthAndTattoos 2 жыл бұрын
When it turned out to be true, the story lost it's appeal. Sad but that's the state of our society. Meanwhile Sherri Papini is still getting talked about.
@Lkhrobertson
@Lkhrobertson 2 жыл бұрын
You could keep me on the edge of my seat reading a cereal box. Your sincerity, animation and humor are just over the top. Thank you for repeatedly giving it a gooo…and for the love. We are so fortunate to get your take on these events.
@loco7357
@loco7357 2 жыл бұрын
Ummmm, do you and I need to fight it out over which one loves the Captain more? 😂😂😂. Sorry, my sense of humor is a bit “off” (so I’ve been told). 🤷🏻‍♀️
@viveriveniversumvivusvici8915
@viveriveniversumvivusvici8915 2 жыл бұрын
Seriously, Mike is about as likable of a character as anyone could ever ask for. His sense of humor is what makes this my true crime channel of choice over the rest. Cheers Cap'n!!!
@stephencoldbear
@stephencoldbear 2 жыл бұрын
Instead of a life insurance dance he'd have to do the Life Cereal dance. (Do they have Life Cereal over in whatever country he's in?)
@judithcampbell1705
@judithcampbell1705 2 жыл бұрын
Talk about a strange case, this is it! The police really dropped the ball on this one. Makes me wonder exactly how smart are the individuals who are on the case, or even just the police department. Thank you Mike and we love you too 😘 ❤ 💜
@jennifermoody6987
@jennifermoody6987 2 жыл бұрын
Well they don't like to allow people with higher IQ scores into law enforcement because they don't take orders as blindly or willingly as those with lower scores.. that tidbit blew my mind when I came across years ago..lol
@HEARTS-OF-SPACE
@HEARTS-OF-SPACE 2 жыл бұрын
​@MrMike_thatchapter Reported.
@mturznik
@mturznik 2 жыл бұрын
There was a lawsuit in Milwaukee, WI a while back. The police and the police academy would not accept 2 or 3 people because they tested high on the entrance exams. They were literally told they were too smart to join the police department.
@jennifermoody6987
@jennifermoody6987 2 жыл бұрын
@@mturznik Wow! I hadn't heard about that.. I'd love to know more about that particular story
@tammykelsey7877
@tammykelsey7877 Жыл бұрын
They should have gotten WAY MORE than 2.5 million dollars!!!
@HeyTidi
@HeyTidi 2 жыл бұрын
Oh wow! I live in Vallejo, not too far from Mare Island. I have NEVER heard of this story - this is wild! Also, I need to add that I am NOT surprised how the Vallejo police department handled this. Let’s just say they’re the kids that were picked last to play dodgeball.
@BariumCobaltNitrog3n
@BariumCobaltNitrog3n 2 жыл бұрын
For a long time Vallejo didn't have a police department, just the MP's from the Naval base and county sheriff's deputies. But, I grew up in Berkeley so I could be wrong.
@serjeantpepper2986
@serjeantpepper2986 2 жыл бұрын
Didn't Vice just do a documentary about them?
@genericsocks7542
@genericsocks7542 2 жыл бұрын
@@serjeantpepper2986 Ik they used to be pretty bad but I can say that, as someone who worked with them on a regular basis as a paramedic in Solano county, they aren’t all bad. Although that is pretty normal amongst cops.
@serjeantpepper2986
@serjeantpepper2986 2 жыл бұрын
@@genericsocks7542 no doubt and thank you for being a paramedic. From the doc it seems the new chief is doing what he can to actuate positive change but there remain some deeply rooted problems within the culture of the department. The most troubling ones they focused on were the killer mentality and badge bending commemoration ceremonies for officers after they take a life.
@HeyTidi
@HeyTidi 2 жыл бұрын
@@BariumCobaltNitrog3n Yeah, that’s my understanding too. To be honest, Vallejo still really doesn’t have a police department. I’m from SF but moved to Vallejo in 2013. For a long time, I didn’t think they have cops out here - wild.
@erichoppe1227
@erichoppe1227 2 жыл бұрын
This is easily the most implausible story you've covered so far! Of course it was a psychotic ex-marine Harvard lawyer living down the street! How did they not see that coming!?!?
@shaunmm2k
@shaunmm2k Жыл бұрын
Haha that’s pretty much the whole story right there. Great summary
@jcarroll135
@jcarroll135 Жыл бұрын
Lmmfao right!! Jesus!!! Who could have seen THAT being a profile?!??!!
@TheChristianNomad
@TheChristianNomad Жыл бұрын
Of course the cops couldn't see it, they weren't investigating it. In their minds the case was over before they started.
@bigoshify
@bigoshify 2 жыл бұрын
23 minutes in and I'm on the edge of my seat! Thanks for covering a story I have never heard of before..
@tomtonner7247
@tomtonner7247 Жыл бұрын
Anyone else watch these stories and most of the time you’re studying how someone can become so twisted and then the second they mention the military you’re like “ah, there it is”
@unite4peace88
@unite4peace88 Жыл бұрын
Lol. Exactly. It seems to never fail, but of course no matter how much I say and advise people stay the hell away from people who have a military background, Momma's Boys, and so-called religious leaders, people get mixed up in these entanglements and suffer the consequences, ... You can lead a horse to water... I guess.
@LucieBrasi
@LucieBrasi Жыл бұрын
Omg this comment thread scares me a little. 😮 there’s this man who’s trying to date me & he was a marine.. should I run for the hills now? 😒🥹
@unite4peace88
@unite4peace88 Жыл бұрын
@@LucieBrasi Well, Yes!
@Mila-Nova
@Mila-Nova Жыл бұрын
@@unite4peace88 lawyers, doctors, firemen, and law enforcement should be added to that list
@unite4peace88
@unite4peace88 Жыл бұрын
@@Mila-Nova You know what?!, yes!, Totally true. I was gonna say I’m a little on the fence when it comes to Dr. but I remembered the one I do know is a complete manipulative scumbag!
@lisagoolsby3791
@lisagoolsby3791 2 жыл бұрын
This has got to be one of the craziest cases I’ve heard in a long time! Still struggling to even understand it it’s so weird! I can’t imagine being the two victims and having such an unbelievable story and being called liars! Wow what a story! I need to do more research into this one to understand better just what happened. Anyway I love you too Mike and thanks for all the great stories you bring us! This one was especially wild.
@maxhult830
@maxhult830 2 жыл бұрын
The investigators should've gotten a longer sentence than the guy who kidnapped her, who at least had some sense of morale. Did the p*gs apologize at all, or how long did it take? They should be in for life.
@tinareaume7484
@tinareaume7484 2 жыл бұрын
Their book is called Victim F. It is an easy read but you can get it on audio as well.
@lisagoolsby3791
@lisagoolsby3791 2 жыл бұрын
@@tinareaume7484 Thanks Tina!!!
@jessmcnulty3043
@jessmcnulty3043 2 жыл бұрын
Never heard of this case. Ever. This is pure insanity by the perpetrator, and criminal negligence by the investigators. Wow. Aaron, and 𝑬𝑺𝑷𝑬𝑪𝑰𝑨𝑳𝑳𝒀 Denise, are heroes in my mind, and I wish them Godspeed
@ryancurry5284
@ryancurry5284 2 жыл бұрын
When Mike says “I love ya,” I genuinely believe him.
@TRU_Lunchy
@TRU_Lunchy Жыл бұрын
Well yeah, you help him earn $20,000 a month.
@JenHilbawi
@JenHilbawi Жыл бұрын
@@TRU_Lunchy we 😂😂😂
@naitranaitra2700
@naitranaitra2700 Жыл бұрын
if he really loved me he would ship the merch i brought of him for my gf.
@dragonsky799
@dragonsky799 Жыл бұрын
Hate to break it to ya, but you shouldn't, because he cannot technically love hundreds of thousands of viewers he hasn't even met, nor seen for that matter. Mike says it as a term of endearment, and because he knows his fans like it. It doesn't go deeper than that.
@morgan8274
@morgan8274 Жыл бұрын
@@dragonsky799 booooooo.
@danabana8121
@danabana8121 Жыл бұрын
I’d never heard of this one, holy heck. 😱 Great video as always Mike, thank you!
@deniseroe5891
@deniseroe5891 2 жыл бұрын
It is truly sick that you go to the police for help and get turned in to a lying criminal. Sometimes police jump to the conclusion and don’t bother to check it out. They think they are too smart to be lied too. I have worked for a PD and have lots of friends that are cops, but they become jaded.
@ashleyj0
@ashleyj0 2 жыл бұрын
Wow!! Great one, Mike! This is the wildest story I've heard yet & completely new to me. Also.. the fact it *kinda* had a happy ending makes us feel a little better. I hope they got that 2 million they deserve it.
@johnarnold8941
@johnarnold8941 2 жыл бұрын
They did.
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