The 10Best Cars of 2023 | Car and Driver

[@stevethomas760]

Picked up a GR Corolla a couple weeks ago. At 73, ya don't have to stop living.

[@MeltingRubberZ28]

Haha good for you. Blow some donuts in a snow covered parking lot. That car has gotta be a riot

[@Dankershim]

You're a legend mate

[@narrowistheway77]

How long ago did you order one? Those aren’t easy to get

[@clu4u]

I’m the same age, got a 981 Spyder when I hit 70…

[@JacesOwnWorld]

I hope you had the money in cash up front because at 73, you should…

[@alexandrumates88]

This video is as good as the article. The only issue I take is that the majority of these vehicles are actually NOT available at your local dealership nor will they be because they won't take order. And if you're lucky enough to get the call you'll pay significantly over MSRP. Which begs the question, should this award go to limited edition models? If you don't agree or believe me, try to buy 5 of the 10 cars listed, you pick which 5. Let me know what happens.

[@Dolby109]

I am glad that 7/10 cars on this list offer manuals.

[@stephancunningham3072]

I’m happy to see 3 of my favorite cars on this list, CT5-v blackwing, Z06 and the new accord.

[@godisgood117]

RIP 1. Chrysler 300 ('23) 2. Dodge Charger/Challenger ('23) 3. Audi TT ('23) 4. Chevy Camaro ('24) 5. Toyota Avalon ('22) 6. VW Passat ('22) 7. Audi R8 ('23)

[@Spinks345]

Carlos - wonderful writing, prose and delivery. Keep it up.

[@k-van9570]

The GR86 just arrived to Sweden. Dealers here want over 40k, converted to USD. Not a great price range here unfortunately.

[@kuladeeluxe]

You can order a base BRZ for $22,500 USd in Canada.

[@k-van9570]

@@kuladeeluxe wow, what a price difference. Really wierd.

[@andreisevostianov9525]

The same shit is hear in California. I’ve been shopping for it for a while. Looks like every dealer puts a markup $7500+ or wants you in the dealership for negotiating that markup.

[@fortheloveofnoise]

I'm currently in Sweden, take me with you to the dealer, I'll haggle those MFers for you.

[@Dolby109]

What do the alternatives cost?

[@pichkari1632]

So no elantra N ?

[@pablonator3000able]

Sorry Hyundai and kia

[@psewgobind]

Lucky for me, since shorter wait.

[@pablonator3000able]

@Navy Patriot101 I still don't know how peeps spend 50k on their trash Genesis lineup

[@billtribble2904]

I dunno. The C8 can be squirrelly at the limit. Design flaw?

[@cultofmodernism8477]

GM killing it!

[@rahxe80]

OK, how much did honda pay to get the new accord on this list . the new accord is slower and in my opinion, doesn't look as good as the last gen , not to mention car and driver haven't even released a proper test on this new accord.

[@k9gamerz145]

On the list for a 2024 cyber yellow Ct4 blackwing.

[@timmyp34]

Winter tires makes a corvette Ok in winter? Maybe in Florida.

[@hardchemist]

Top 1 & 3 spots are the product of partnerships! Maybe this is a good omen for 2023.

[@sunrisesunset1734]

From where did you glean this incorrect information?

[@hardchemist]

@@sunrisesunset1734 Oh yeah, #2 was the Corolla, right? #3 is the BRZ/GR86. I have a BRZ on order so I accidentally inflated the ranking lol

[@sunrisesunset1734]

@@hardchemist Lol, congrats. I prefer the Corolla because of AWD and the option to dial in power distribution to front or rear, mainly because you can drive like a lunatic on any surface, tarmac gravel and snow!

[@hardchemist]

@@sunrisesunset1734 I know, and that sounds very cool, but there's just something about having at least one RWD sports car in your life. I'm down in FL so this is probably all the traction needed :)

[@sunrisesunset1734]

@@hardchemist agreed, donuts make dozens lol

[@dougshaw2944]

"Chevy Malibu+" LOL's

[@bloominguez]

It's funny because it's true. Perfect description.

[@marklloyd4153]

The Alpha platform Cadillacs r the only ones I like on the list , but I prefer the Camaro ZL1

[@xMel21x]

I think Hyundai should have appeared in the list as honoured mention.

[@joshuazavala2311]

no elantra n ?

[@LanceEJones]

Thank you! And, it's criminal to not showcase that Cadillac V8!

[@dagobello]

Should’ve included a genesis due to looks, value and that 100,000 mile warranty. None of these cars include that warranty.

[@number1Schumacherfan]

Well I don’t know if you’ve noticed but quite a few Kia/Hyundais have needed to phone a friend on that warranty. Not sure how convenient that warranty is if you have to use it for anew engines…..

[@lancemannion4113]

They need that warranty because otherwise the car is not going to sell. And based on the brands sketchy track record, that warranty will be well utilized

[@dagobello]

@@lancemannion4113 at 15k miles and all good. My wife’s Toyota only had 36,000 mile warranty and we were quoted $6,000 for a repair on the service right after warranty expired.

[@alexandergoldman]

@@dagobello Wow, which Toyota does your wife have and what is the issue?

[@eddiesidorov8635]

I’m still waiting for a manual vette, now that will be fun. not that it isn’t already but ya know

[@gearnep5821]

I mean if supra is offered at 45k I would gladly take it, at the end of the day I don't care if the interior is made of rich material or cheap plastic. This is one thing the fanboys don't care and they just still sell it to us anyway.

[@bobmitchell8012]

How much did Toyota pay you guys?

[@jtthebrick3]

Larlos Cago!!!!

[@jibosnjak9840]

Also a little confused how the IONIQ 5 is not on this list when it won EV of the year from C&D, especially over the far pricier BMW.

[@andreisevostianov9525]

It’s considered an SUV

[@jibosnjak9840]

The Beemer, Accord (not even on sale and where is the fun engine?), and the GR Corolla (excellent car but awful value compared to the Hyundai N) all make me raise my eyebrows this year. Glad VW doesn’t make it this year - they should feel shame for what they did to the MK8.

[@gregorylunsford3991]

How about The 10 Best ...... of Average longevity and reliability ..... How about a New 10 Best for Longevity and reliability ........... With all the Electronics put into New Cars , I want a 10 year 100,000 miles warranty on these Electronics besides the Engine.

[@gregorylunsford3991]

Yes 100% correct ...........

[@jmm1174]

All great choices by C/D, only missed the Porsche 992 GT3 and GT4RS, the Hyundai pocket rockets Elantra N and Kona N. And the still ongoing Alpha platform great handling 6th gen Camaro SS, SS1LE and ZL1.

[@itnoked]

Remember the price cap…

[@sethi100]

I would consider the Supra if it had Android auto and vented seats. I hear the infotainment system is a bit complicated. But not even considering a test drive until those first to items added. Oh and did they ever fix the wind noise?

[@FRWD_FXLRST]

2025 is it’s last year.

[@dustinspurling1111]

I really hate how they make all the excuses in the world to not put that 3 cylinder in the gr86.

[@twotrackjack2260]

Cars with cvt transmissions should automatically be disqualified from this list.

[@rudyvazquez8230]

🙏🏼

[@fortuitusbounce]

Anyone know where they were driving for the majority of the on-road shots? Those canopy roads look familiar

[@TheUnFluenced]

It's been a long time since there was no VW GTI

[@jmm1174]

VW GTI lost its raw handling feeling

[@jibosnjak9840]

@@jmm1174 No, in fact it’s better this year. They just ruined everything else. I’m a GTI owner so I have personal experience and rage.

[@bb57365]

Should have added the R8. Before it’s gone.

[@deyeatdapoopoo7582]

The Elantra N not being on this list is kind of a glaring omission.

[@arcelivez]

What is elantra n??

[@fubartotale3389]

They only wanted to include cars whose engines lasted more than 100K miles.

[@merica7050]

Those engines are blowing up check youtube

[@darkknightsds]

It's hilarious to still have the 718 on this list. It's so outdated and massively overpriced at this point. Who even buys one anymore?

[@andresmattos7541]

Brought to you by Honda and Toyota.

[@Now_or_Never_777]

C/D = Honda and Toyota fan boys

[@MohamedAli965]

Sup Carlos

[@Slim1986]

So they drove the Accord?🤔

[@youngdumak]

I liked that “magnetorheological” edit. How many takes until you nailed it?

[@CarlosLago]

Way too many

[@suserman7775]

Yeah I noticed that, and actually that word has no "h" sound in it, so still more takes were needed. REE OH LODGE i CUL

[@dominicflorov2752]

@@suserman7775 🙊

[@thomasreiter3876]

I gotta say I don't understand what BMW is doing looks wise. I thought they had that big UGLY grill for air flow but seeing it on an electric vehicle just makes me so sad.

[@Ikram12348]

No Camry ? No New Prius ! in top 3..

[@wendymorgan6651]

I think ill keep my 1M

Only a poseur worries about drinking his/her coffee in a GT4.

[@The_R-n-I_Guy]

There hasn't been a car worth buying since the 80's. New vehicles have too much unnecessary technology. The engines are made with parts that wear out quickly or break because the engine designers are too focused on light weight and efficiency/emissions. Transmissions are overly complicated and weak for the same reasons. There is so much focus on driver and passenger safety that it endangers everyone outside the vehicle. Cameras and sensors will never fix horrible visibility. There are too many driver distractions. There are no buttons or switches to memorize the placement. So you have to look away from the road to adjust the overly complicated climate control, radio, or anything else. There is only one car built now that I would own and that's the C8 Corvette. I can't stand all the unnecessary technology. But I would be willing to overlook it to drive one

[@brodiwheeler7583]

Wait, it’s still 2022 right?

[@fluffymustdienow]

Honda guy here. Just wanting to point out that in order to make the list, Toyota has to get all GR on their lineup. Honda, however, only needs the Accord and Civic to phone it in. I'm not hating on Toyota, just loving on Honda for simply making better cars. [Please bring back the S2000.] And GM... I have hated GM ever since my parents bought their first Sedan Deville... and all that taxpayer money they needed to stay afloat in 2008 when Ford didn't need a dime made me disgusted to call GM American. But damn, I absolutely would buy a Blackwing, a C8, or a ZL1 1LE. I am actually proud to call GM an American car company... finally. But then again, my Toyota comment still applies. I simply would not consider the CT4, CT5, or camaro in anything less than the Blackwing or 1LE. So, yeah, go Honda! [Please bring back the S2000.]

[@andreww2927]

I’m just so glad that car and driver continues to be a reference calibre source of information. The history needs to be maintained, and despite all of the competition, their testing at VIR combined their thoroughly driver oriented 10 best year after year, continues to be an irreplaceable resource for me. Thank you Carlos (and Csaba, you legend) and to the rest of the team. You’re all part of the legend.

[@harlequin75]

I’ve followed them since the 80’s. They are predictable

[@superchargedsteve3411]

Wait, the i4 is 1200 LBS HEAVIER THAN AN M3?!! Sorry but weight is the enemy of handling guys.

[@jeffk464]

Low CG helps, you can put a bigger tire patch on it but still.

[@benjaminkohl342]

Car and Driver continues to get confused by the BMW window stickers. Re the i4: The curved display with iDrive 8 is standard, not optional. The option you're referring to, "Curved Display with Head Up Display", is JUST adding the HUD. Nothing more.

[@Dolby109]

Wow you owned them big time with your useless knowledge of one option.

[@RGBRacing]

They should redo this but include the avg dealer markup into the price. Good luck finding a ZO6 for under 110k lol

[@spartan63530]

GR Corolla and Civic Type R have crazy markups too 😂

[@chrisdraudt3713]

100%

[@andreisevostianov9525]

Even GR86s get $7500+ markups (CA).

[@jeffk464]

Its still not a great time to be buying a new car, maybe better than a year ago, but still not good.

[@CaptainTonus]

You can't really walk into any Cadillac dealership and buy a CT5-V Blackwing 6spd. It's a little more difficult than that...

[@pablonator3000able]

Some of us have better credit, everyone's scenario is different depending on your bank account.

[@CaptainTonus]

@@pablonator3000able it's not a credit issue, it's a stock issue. Dealers don't have them in stock

[@drew6116]

@@pablonator3000able yeah I didn't hear that as a financial thing

[@MikeYurbasovich]

@@pablonator3000able 🤡

[@pablonator3000able]

@@MikeYurbasovich i apologize this comment left you in a state of retaliation.

[@nishantjoshi2397]

BMW m340 should be on the list over the i4 right now. Ridiculously great balance of luxury, raw performance, and value for what it provides at its price point. Best all around priced “performance car”

[@Jcastro9444]

List shouldve had the Hyundai Elantra N

[@willyjameshuff]

lol they can’t get past the god awful looks 😂

[@chrisa.8175]

Rich win again.. 🏆 under $30.000 is most common people. And that is a 6 yr bank payment.. 🏦 i love looking but most in our economy can only dream of owning one of these 10 best.

[@DavidM2002]

I have a Cayman and it certainly isn't short on storage space - a trunk and a frunk has more than enough space for 2 people on a long road trip. Part of the secret is to use soft bags to pack your stuff in.

[@danrook5757]

What about shopping bags

[@DavidM2002]

@@danrook5757 She stays home.

[@rcarter6885]

I have a 2013 Boxster and two carry-on bags fit easily in the Frunk. I also got two sets of golf clubs in by taking the clubs out and putting them behind the seats and then the bags in the back trunk!!

[@bwcastillo]

That accord is too good looking to not get the 2.0 They need to find a way to make that available again.

[@jmm1174]

Agree if they don't offer the faster 2.0T I would instead go for the previous generation

[@remyd8767]

@@jmm1174 why wouldn't you go for the previous generation anyway? Cheaper, more reliable, more aftermarket parts

[@jeffk464]

Indeed the 2.0T and traditional automatic.

[@ericdolby1622]

Amazing that the Edsel was considered ugly. Have you seen the new BMW and Toyota products. Lol.

[@drew6116]

I took a short test drive in an i4 Spring '22 and thought it was terrific. I'm a lifelong Bimmer guy and am very pleased C&D likes it. I really didn't put it through its paces. Alas, that nutty grill and 2 pedals will keep it out of my garage in the foreseeable future. Kudos to GM for having more than one car in the list!!

[@jeffk464]

Wow, an electric BMW with almost no need for a grill and BMW still stuck that super ugly giant nostril grill on it. BMW is super committed to the grill. The new M4 is supposed to be great, but I'm guessing a huge percent of potential buyers are staying away because of that grill. Its like a woman that you could tell would be really attractive if only she got a nose job.

[@Dolby109]

Sadly I don't see it likely that any production electric car will ever have a manual. If I had the money I'd get several of the cars on the list right now as they will probably hold their value quite well.

[@Sommers234]

@@Dolby109 unfortunately, EV does mean no more manual. I'm 69 so figure I 'll never have to give up manual as long as I"m able to drive it. if you like them that much, take your time and shop around for something ! There are still plenty around. Honda, BMW, etc... E46 BMW can be a good choice. I have a '72 2002 and a 2002 330cic (E46).

[@Dolby109]

@@Sommers234 Yeah I have 4 manual cars and got one for my kid, so hopefully I won't run out :p Still really want one of the Blackwings but that's a bit out of my budget.

[@jamesstephen5694]

Why didn't the Mazda Miata (MX-5) make it on your list? Soft top or the RF. What a great car. It has been on there every year, since last year and this year.

[@oldatarigamer]

It looks like the BRZ/86 has taken its place on this list.

[@BDA0531]

@@layne4376 if they werent plagued by RTV issues then maybe.

[@JC-lk3oy]

@BDA because the internet has never blown an issue out of proportion. The reality is it does look to be the RTV issue that's blowing engines. It seems to be an issue with the sump in general. Adding a baffle to the oil pan is the solution. So far, it seems most engines fail due to oil starvation during extremely hard cornering. Hence why the baffled oil pan is the actual solution. Obviously, you should remove the debris from the pickup tube while you're in there though. If you look at the pics of the rtv in the pickup, you will see there is still plenty of room for oil to flow freely. Pickup tubes are designed to have much more flow potential than needed, in general.

[@BDA0531]

@@JC-lk3oy but the fact you need to do all of that for a brand new car is beyond ridiculous. New customers shouldnt have to worry about reliability issues

[@oldatarigamer]

@@layne4376 Different more than superior.

[@rogerodle8750]

Honda Accord: 1.5 liter turbo 4 w/cvt (hard pass) or a hybrid (harder pass).

[@trance9158]

Porsche always every day!!

[@JohnFromAccounting]

GM, Honda and Toyota are doing very well. Surprised not to see the Elantra N.

[@pan4632]

Child labor and failing engines/transmissions probably disqualified it...

[@mharro88]

Same best value car by far

[@theofficialwizard2753]

Honestly

[@theofficialwizard2753]

Honestly

[@scottthomson9813]

Hyundai didn't pay them enough apparently

[@stevenreichertart]

The video is ruined with the obnoxious background music. Attention video producers: JUST STOP IT!

[@akula.r]

I want to like that i4 but those grilles are too much.

[@sk-un5jq]

CD needs to do 10 Most Recommended For Real Peoples Budgets (ie. no luxury or sports cars)

[@thesorrow312]

Thats what the civic and accord are for

[@norwegianblue2017]

3 GM, 2 Honda, 1 Toyota, 1 Toyota/Subaru hybrid, 1 Toyota/BMW hybrid, 1 BMW and 1 Porsche. Never thought I would see a Top 10 with GM taking 3 spots! Especially since this list doesn't include any SUVs.

[@wolfeman11111]

All these big automotive companies of the 2000s are such a joke now 😭😂 KZbinrs and independent journalists run the car game now… this, top gear, etc… all they really care about is money, they need it bad

[@rc7016]

On what planet will the Corvette Z06 ever be available new for under 110k in North America... lol

[@paulpellico3797]

honda...ford called and wants its grill back

[@shawnc0858]

That's what I was thinking

[@Aikynbreusov]

This stupid list of top 10....these are for car enthusiasts.... they have low sale volume..... stupid list.... how about a list of top 10 that the mass buys?????

[@mharro88]

No Elantra N? It's just as fun and quick as a type R and definitely more fun than some of those shit American cars.

[@truthhurtz8767]

A BMW M Roadster from 2000 is far superior to the new straight 6 Toyota Supra, cheaper and better.

[@spencerd2156]

Dealer markups are the reason I can’t buy any of these cars. Dealers are killing the enthusiast cars, NOT the consumer. I hope these models can survive the chopping block until the prices come back to MSRP.

[@edwardmoffett1704]

The BMW I4 is too ugly to belong on any 10 Best List. In general, the video is overly long bore.

[@JBsC6]

Great show. Great list of ten best Carlos Lago,!

[@CarlosLago]

Thanks but it's a massive team effort! Kudos to the entire C/D crew for doing the hard work.

[@DTEL77]

Gee, Car & Driver prefers the 3-Series and the Accord and the other Accord (Civic). Yawn, so predictable.

[@Bmontepeque11]

The GR 86 should never be Turbo charged, nothing beats the purity of N/A cars, and if you want a Turbo 86 that's literally why the Toyota Supra exists whether you want it in I6 or I4 form, because the 86 is the pure sports car, the Supra is the fast one!

[@michaelserrano9334]

Agreed!!

[@GT-RTData9]

I always say the 2.0 Supra is just an 86 with a turbo, more horsepower and an automatic that’s actually worth a damn.

[@jmm1174]

Or it could have a 6 cylinders NA

[@mharro88]

It needs something. It's boring

[@Bmontepeque11]

@@michaelserrano9334 Definitely!

[@iluvcakes19]

New Accord looks like those old Taurus's, kind like my cousin's 2014 Sho.

[@dominicflorov2752]

It looks like Jaguar XK, Audi A7, a little bit of Volkswagen Passat. Boring and bland! Where is Taurus 2014?

[@d.block3148]

First thing i thought when i saw it was that it looked like the Taurus.

[@dominicflorov2752]

@@d.block3148 🤯

[@kineticU]

Hmmm 2 out of ten in the stable albeit prior year variants. Wish I could try the Corolla…never thought that I would say that of a Corolla 😂

[@carlbeveridge384]

I ❤my CT4 Blackwing!!!

[@pablonator3000able]

If its 6speed manual never get rid of it.

[@carlbeveridge384]

@@pablonator3000able Fully loaded 6 speed manual.

[@jtthebrick3]

Same! Infared red with the manual! Keeping it until the wheels fall off!

[@carlbeveridge384]

@@jtthebrick3 Wave blue with Sky Grey interior.

[@jtthebrick3]

@@carlbeveridge384 Love it! Great combination! Actually headed out to the Cadillac V School tomorrow!

[@agj6022]

Car & Driver was something 20-30 years ago... Now? Just a sad story - so, so, so saaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaad 😞

[@4047530025]

I've never seen anyone black who's worked at Car and Driver.

[@YEETYfrmXBOX]

I could listen to this guy all day. Rented a cayman for Christmas, and im pretty confident that it was the greatest driving experience you could wish to have.

[@irishsoccerguy]

How did you rent one?

[@YEETYfrmXBOX]

@@irishsoccerguy an app called turo. If not many cars pop up around you, you can zoom out on the map and search a bigger area

[@frankanderson4176]

I could barely stand this guy within the first minute. The over-animated, purposed exercise in creative writing type of dialogue with the up & down speech patterns then, he's a hand talker! Waving his hands & arms around, standing on his toes, etc., all meaningless. Enough with the storybook style already. A very distracting and annoying presentation.

[@jamesm9486]

Wow Frank, you most likely hate Christmas as well@@frankanderson4176

[@gladdy02]

How did they put the Accord on the top 10 list when they haven't even driven it yet? Also, it looks as bland as a VW Passat

[@Sideways_Singh]

If u listen carefully theyve driven it

[@gladdy02]

@@Sideways_Singh I know they said they did, but notice how they didn't have any film of it nor have I seen any reviews of it in their website. I doubt they just choose not to film a car as significant as the Accord.

[@Sideways_Singh]

@@gladdy02 its probably under embargo and cant be released yet

[@gladdy02]

@@Sideways_Singh that's what I'm thinking too but you usually see the KZbinrs going over the car just before the embargo lifts. Either way, last gen seems like the better buy to me unless you're looking for efficiency

[@CARandDRONE]

I imagine they rely heavily on evaluations from the test facilities as well as their own otr experience.

[@BenzinioB]

Wrong beginning - lost me with the I4 there is no point to watch the rest of the crap!

[@tayross97]

Genesis G70!

[@ericp5948]

The Honda Accord is the ugliest thing I've seen in a while.

[@olliew00d]

The Accord isn't on sale yet, pricing hasn't been released, and isn't that part of the judging?

[@pablonator3000able]

These are Car and Driver representatives, dont you trust their capability of driving these vehicles before the public. Its their job.

[@CARandDRONE]

@@pablonator3000able 💯 years in some cases.

[@GLI_1701]

Although I enjoy Car and Driver this top 10 list is basically vehicles that the average consumer could not afford which is sad. Most of the vehicles in this list are over $45,000. Basically if you're not making $100,000 a year you're not driving or owning any of these cars maybe you should do a separate segment for everyday drivers

[@Mr44rr]

Did you drive the Accord with 5 people in it up a large hill? The constant CVT noise would be terrible. The engine is week. The styling is bland. No way the Accord should be on this list. My 2019 Accord 2.0T was a lot better. Car and Driver "Another complaint that drivers tend to make about a CVT is the loud droning sound that occurs during acceleration. This happens because the CVT forces the engine to continuously run a constantly high rpm as it gets up to speed. As Car Engineer explains, the general public has been less accepting of the CVT due to the difference in noise perception from mechanical or step automatic transmission. "

[@jmm1174]

Yes the 10th gen is better with the 2.0T

[@jackalclone1]

Too many of the cars on this list have MSRP way beyond common buyers' budgets. It'd be nice to have a separate list comprised of more affordable vehicles.

[@fluffymustdienow]

A 50K and below list would certainly be nice.

[@richardmichael59]

C&D take note?

[@anthonyr1930]

Those wouldn’t be the “best” though. So that would defeat the purpose

[@fluffymustdienow]

@@anthonyr1930 I mean, why cap it at 110K when these couldn't possibly be the "best" cars compared to [insert ridiculously expensive car here *cough* porsche 911 turbo s]. There is a conditional here, just as there would be for "best vehicles under 50K". You can still find the "best" in a category.

[@anthonyr1930]

@@fluffymustdienow that’s true, this list they do is for average people I suppose. A list under $50k wouldn’t really be interesting in my opinion. There would be virtually no differences.

[@nkdadson9962]

Yeah. Where is the MX5/Miata?

[@oldwhitedevil9388]

Will the EV charge at 5* F? Or will you be waiting for the battery to warm up; which at 5* it will not do!

[@paulstabin6233]

A well thought out list. Condolences to Miata, Emira, Nissan Z, WRX, Hyundai N car. owners, etc. Nice to see Honda recognized for a great lineup, even if the Accord has seen better days. I am still enjoying my '18 Type R, and loved the SI that preceded it. Even as an owner of a 4 cylinder turbo hot hatch, a Boxster or Cayman without that glorious six cylinder just feels wrong. The cars in this list I most want to test drive? The CTV4 and CTV5. I drove the CTS- V - the 556 hp version, at the Bondurant Racing School and it was a relevation. I can only imagine how good this series is now.

[@anydaynow01]

Yeah it's a shame that Cadillac's final got it together but insists on going all electric. They can keep producing a few ICE sports sedans (that engine is a masterpiece so no more R&D really needs to be done), then the majority of their fleet can be EV commuting appliances and land yachts since quiet reliability is what those drivers really want. At least these last few Cadillac ICE cars are a fitting swan song, way better looking than anything Lexus or BMW has come out with recently and they have the performance to keep up!

[@v7nf]

@@anydaynow01 we own a caddillac but we wont be going electric so to bad,good car I work at honda building cars and its a sound car,might be our next.

[@marcosvaldes8910]

Love my 981 Cayman 3.4L H6. That engine sounds glorious.

[@RomanticPopPunk]

BMW i4 facts: $51K starting for 110 mph top speed $67K starting for 130 mph top speed 🤮 Either Car and Driver got paid by BMW this time or they made a mistake.

[@MrNysmoke25]

Didn't see a camaro had 3 since 2016 started with a ss than a 2020 zl1 and since I heard it's going away I traded it for a 2023 zl1 convertible and no I'm not a chevy fan boy I own a escape and just recently sold wife's explorer for a telluride and I most say kia did a awesome job

BRZ/GT86/GR Corolla/ GR Yaris ( euro) are a true definition of "Fun to Drive"🏆

[@Dolby109]

Pretty sure every manual car on the list qualifies.