The Acolyte: The Sith are Good Now? Disney Makes Evil Subjective

[@BrettCaton]

I just see Lesley Headlamp as the sort of person who does evil things, then looks up from the half-devoured bodies and says "your good is my evil, human!"

[@coruscantcourier]

Literally how we feel lol

[@AppalachianWarhammer]

As far as i an concerned Star Wars is dead. There has been objectively light sided sith before, but these Sith were rare and against the general ways of the Sith. The Sith were always dark or shades of dark grey, but thats what made them interesting. Not every bad guy needs to be this cliche bullshit of being misunderstood. As Alfred put it best, "Some men just want to watch the world burn". The Sith was always supposed to serve as an analogy that power can lead to temptations, through those temptations they eventually fear losing them, the potential loss turns to anger and anger leads to hate. Hate, leads to the Dark Side. Now it's just a bunch of shit, written by people with zero respect for what's come before.

[@coruscantcourier]

The respect for the lore and Lucas' vision is gone. Filoni was the guy we were supposed to trust but apparently he signed off on this. Which we find hard to believe

[@bwknowles98]

That can not be further from the truth. The entire point of Anakin falling to the dark side is that he sees the jedi as not objectively good. That's enforced by the jedi refusing to believe the sith are back.

[@coruscantcourier]

The jedi not accepting the Sith's return does not mean they're evil though. Anakin was corrupted by the dark side - manipulated. Sure, Mace Windu's arrogance played a factor, but it was truly Anakin's fear of loss that drove him to join the Sith.

[@bwknowles98]

@coruscantcourier That's entirely of subjective morality. That doesn't make them evil, but they are not objectively good either. Even KOTOR 2 is 100% based on that entire ideal of subjective morality

[@coruscantcourier]

@bwknowles98 We agree and are following. But what we're arguing is that Lucas' intention was to clearly distinguish good from evil despite good's flaws. He talks about this in multiple interviews. There was never supposed to be any doubt that the Sith are evil and the Jedi are good, despite their mistakes.

[@Horradar86]

No. The statement that he accepted his darkness didn't change that he is the villain. Those who are evil, generally know it and are often proud of it. However, they are still evil, and rhis is pointed out several times in the show.

[@coruscantcourier]

Disney has gone out of their way to make the jedi equally to blame. That's where we have issue

[@maskerhierronoesasuntotull8332]

Well in clone wars you get a Yoda that he accepted his darkness

[@coruscantcourier]

He accepted that he had darkness but needed to let it go. When he meets with the "wills" we see that played out. He stopped fearing the darkness and what he could not control. Anakin on the other hand feared his darkness and allowed it to become his identity to the point where he massacred the jedi

[@jimmorrison306]

Just like the moral rot our culture suffers, Disney has rotted from within - to the point that I no longer want to watch Star Wars anything. Sometimes wrong is just wrong. There isn’t your truth. There is the truth. Maybe one’s perception can be different, but the truth is the truth.

[@coruscantcourier]

AMEN!

[@thedailystoner6753]

There is cheese

[@adonaiel-rohi2460]

There is no such thing as objective good and evil

[@coruscantcourier]

That's ridiculous. Example: Murder - evil or good?

[@adonaiel-rohi2460]

@@coruscantcourier it’s all a matter of who is looking at it. Popular opinion doesn’t define objectivity.

[@wizard932]

Disingenuous take/engagement farm/rage bait/no media literacy

[@coruscantcourier]

You're gonna have to explain that, bud. We talked much more deeply on this in our podcast. We were being completely honest and genuine. And for you to claim we're being "disingenuous," you had better have some proof to back it up because that's an audacious claim

[@StoenBrey]

Yeah it's not George Lucas but he doesn't make the rules anymore so don't see why that matters. For me I really like the show, yeah it far from what we know as lore but I fully believe that the jedi clearly gets too political at this point in time and that's what leads to the sith taking over so having some sith being relatable isn't the worst idea. I always got annoyed the jedi wouldn't allow emotion so having sith claim that they are the good guys because they don't shut down emotion isn't a huge leap for me