The Asian side characters calling out the main character's privilege took me OUT 💀 *MOXIE REACTION*

[@alexinator-hh5fe]

She did not have to cook her like that. Didn't even add any seasoning either, just threw her right into the fire. Maybe she can be used in one of Cindy's cooking videos now.

[@withcindy]

the roast was immaculate

[@KimPenny]

@@withcindy just to try to y red St ar

[@ohnobro9621]

S-Tier roast

[@littlemayo7136]

That wasn't even a rose I can tell you how to professional drag stollar that she flat-out read her like an open hand book she read her like her script she read her like a character description

[@Sammy-yf2sb]

PLS WHAT IS THIS-

[@xenonsan3110]

When he spat in her soda I wanted her to so badly dump the entire drink on him

[@oyinkansolaadebajo9716]

My mom and I were watching this and she literally said the same thing!!

[@xenonsan3110]

@@oyinkansolaadebajo9716 it sounds like your mom and I would get along lol

[@oyinkansolaadebajo9716]

@@xenonsan3110 Lol

[@KomandorNells]

SAME!

[@ginger6readspaceman]

That scene made me so mad, I definitely would have. And I'm a super safe, no trouble person

[@aleidadiaz2261]

That Asian boy was so well adjusted and articulate about his feelings. I fell in love with him not only when he starred his hands, but when he wrote her name on his arm.

[@magicalgirl4]

He was such a good character and lovely romantic lead

[@parkthepenguin6344]

Seth was great in the books, I didn’t watch the whole movie but he seems pretty good here ;)

[@explodinglungs5974]

I don't think that Seth writing Vivian's name on his arm was the best thing because Vivian's attitude is so sour and extreme, she didn't deserve that. Vivian should've apologized to him properly because Seth was right: all he's done was support her and doesn't deserve to be her punching bag. I love the movie and all but Vivian didn't learn anything and even damaged property while letting others take the fall for her actions. But even so she still admitted some of her mistakes, even if she got waaaay more leeway then she deserved from the people that love her (Claudia, Seth, her mom). At least they did call Vivian out on her shit so I'll give the movie that. I have mixed feelings about this quirky yet obviously flawed movie but I think it was a pretty good stepping stone for social justice.

[@parkthepenguin6344]

@@explodinglungs5974 I’m pretty sure that in the book, Vivian wasn’t that bad

[@explodinglungs5974]

@@parkthepenguin6344 I might read the book cause I love the difference between books and movies (usually books being better). I'll take your advice then. 👌

[@natalieadams3463]

They knew what they were doing when they wrote Seth as a feminist skater boy who wears rings and calls people out on their bs

[@maferzamudiobermejo1594]

I knowwwwww

[@kevxxxedge]

AND he has a good tre-flip!

[@spookyho5994]

yessss

[@hannah-fg5vo]

@@kevxxxedge the guy who plays him is a popular skater!

[@krishankalia9990]

Wait I'm confused... I just watched the movie can someone explain this to me?

[@cniknik9863]

They call a male feminist a "white knight" or a "simp" all the time online but if he's not doing it just to get in some lady's pants or manipulate, he's just a good person. A true ally.

[@illustryfe5354]

Exactly 😏

[@mynameisreallycool1]

Tbh when I was watching the movie, I thought that was going to be the case. I thought there would be a twist where we would later find out that he wasn't a feminist after all and only did these things so that he'd get women's attention. I'm glad that wasn't case.

[@serena612]

Ya I really liked the way they showed that men can be feminists too

[@HenshinHeroesMedia]

What do you all male allies towards feminism when they need an excuse to kick sexist butt and other individuals who are some kind of phobic?

[@hat7475]

@@HenshinHeroesMedia i- I can't comprehend what you just said 😭

[@luis.santosc]

the “you don’t get what’s going on with me bc you’re white” line got me fucking goosebumps omg

[@withcindy]

RIGHTTTTT

[@lia1tan]

Man I really wish I had the guts to say that sometimes. Like when I had some of my students being racist to me and when I told about it to my colleagues they just told me that they’re just kids (in high school) and I shouldn’t care what a bunch of teenagers say to me since I’m the adult. Like fuck that shit. I wish I could’ve said that but I was so frustrated and angry that I cried.

[@lesbiangoddess290]

I mean fucking correct.

[@mayakane9978]

@@lia1tan I'm really sorry, people need to remember that hurting other people doesn't require an age. I hope its going better for you.

[@RenaissanceRockerBoy]

@@lia1tan Honestly, you’re a teacher and they should not be allowed to say that to you. There are probably students in the class who would love to see an authority figure stand up for not being insulted. Try to tell them calmly but firmly that that type of language is not acceptable in your class, and if you have to give them detention or something. Because that is not acceptable.

[@tav1754]

“When every teenage girl realises how fucked up the world is-“ That was literally me when I discovered the internet.

[@sarroumarbeu6810]

Hence her remark 🤭 ...we all have a crisis then mould ourselves however we see fit to counter it

[@throwaway7104]

THIS HAVING TRIPLE SIX LIKES 😳 JESUS TAKE THE WHEEELL

[@Jrookus]

Hahaha imagine discovering the world was fucked up as a teen This post was made by childhood depression gang

[@notwerkinginthishouse8634]

@@Jrookus same, highschool breakdown

[@GINSHOTGUN]

Lmao same

[@AyaKay413]

I swear I was almost crying when I saw Seth. They finally have a Asian male lead in a teen movie who ISNT EMASCULATED.😭 And he supports her so much and actually calls her out on her bs when sh*t goes wrong.

[@thgritic102]

Leave to a non-romance focus movie to do romance with a male character RIGHT! I was scared they were going to make his character horrible, but no he was amazing while calling out the main chick on her BS without sounding like a prick. I want more of him!

[@seeexy]

♡ aww this is such a cute coment

[@cameerkat]

the asian love interests always end up not working out too!!!

[@Iquey]

@@thgritic102 yeah I'm glad about this too. It shows you can speak up and defend yourself without being completely horrible. Seth is actually based.

[@cierram8019]

I am IN LOVE with him

[@empressmarowynn]

I spent like a whole decade in school being bullied and harassed. And the school's response was always "oh he just has a crush on you." Dude, tying rubber bands in my hair, spitting chewed up crayons at me, and telling his friends how many fingers he thinks he can shove inside me is not the way to go about expressing a crush, and these incidents were all different boys. And I always physically fought back which meant I was constantly in trouble, but never the boys. It took me putting two of them in the hospital for it to finally stop instead of the school putting an end to it years earlier like it should have. But we need to defend the fragile egos of white men because they're the most important.

[@cameerkat]

yes. this.

[@rpcsa8]

@@brolly2612 yeah yeah, we know bro. Women can harrass people as well which is equally as bad. But OP never said Women can’t do wrong, she was just calling out the school for not wanting to take repsonsibility. Hell the same would probably happen anyway in the school if the genders were switched since it seems their standards are so broken they probably wouldn’t care either way.

[@cheriremily9360]

@@brolly2612 I'm sorry that happened to you. Sexual assault is wrong no matter the gender of the molester.

[@sofiaboo6739]

@@brolly2612 women can be bad too but she's sharing her experience as a girl being harassed by boys so you couldn't expect her to say "oh, but women harass men too" it doesn't even make sense in that context

[@sofiaboo6739]

I'm so sorry you had to go through that, I hate that schools all over the world still do stuff like that, it's 2021, this kind of attitude is long overdue

[@jerxiong5541]

When the best friend called her out, about whiteness, and also said "because I'm not a coward unlike you"--my life changed. That was incredible. When was the last time a movie called out whiteness like this from an Asian person? Damn.

[@withcindy]

it was very satisfying to watch indeed

[@mrsnufkinsan]

Sry for being weird but i just wanted to say i find you beautiful

[@theautismrizzler]

When was the last time a movie called out whiteness PERIOD. I seriously cannot think of one!

[@kevxxxedge]

Perfect timing as well. And I don't mean in the movie. I mean in the world.

[@Network-yp8de]

damn straight

[@NikiLovesTL]

I was shocked and kind of disappointed with Claudia's behaviour, but once I saw her mom, everything made sense and I just wanted to hug her because SIS THIS ASIAN RELATES 💀💀

[@withcindy]

PROTECT CLAUDIA!!

[@vietnamwithkingsley.5506]

People just don't get how much societal/familial pressure we are always under, just to be something that we are not.

[@NikiLovesTL]

@@vietnamwithkingsley.5506 EXACTLY! I don't like how we're always told to keep our heads down, grades up, and ignore the horrible things people say/do to us because karma????? Like, no thank you. I don't _want_ to inherit or encourage that kind of world. 🙅🏻‍♀️

[@hwchen39]

Yeah Claudia's story really hit home for me because it reminds me how fragile the model minority stereotype is. I remember when I was applying to college and the essay prompt was to tell them about a time when I "overcame adversity" and I wrote about a racist teacher I had in fourth grade. My immigrant parents thought it wasn't "appropriate" and told me I shouldn't talk about it. I was so hurt that I cried but I submitted the essay anyway and got into all the colleges I applied to. Now with the perspective I have I see that they thought they were protecting me because they were afraid if I was too outspoken about race that I would be seen as the problem and it would be easier to get rid of me than to change the system.

[@vietnamwithkingsley.5506]

@@hwchen39 another reason why I don't like self-help books coming out from author who's from developed countries. It gave a false impression that anyone can be like them without the context, without the safety net they could fall back to when theirs ventures turned south. The context of being a certain skin colour, being born in a certain countries in the world, being born in the certain time in history, could not be more lacking. It'd be not the scenario we would face or can be counted on for. It's just simply not it. Excuse me for my rant, but I've seen my fair share of those books in my book store advertising about a future for the minority/disable people who can not access all of those context at all.

[@lokiehigh8732]

You punching a guy in the face because he was seuxally harassing you just because he had a crush on you is a mood

[@withcindy]

and i'd do it again POW POW!

[@misssteak1290]

Same. I remember in middle school this guy kept asking me out after i repeatedly rejected him. One time i snapped and suddenly i was the bad guy for like 2 weeks because everyone loved him

[@lesbiangoddess290]

Yup. Cannot stand that bs

[@ggundercover3681]

@@misssteak1290 haha gotta love ppl's stupidity amiright.

[@tazariarobinson5666]

Oddly enough I relate to that so much. I had to do it twice.

[@xsomili5501]

The bar is so low that we are celebrating the bare minimum of seth being a decent man 😭

[@asroriadraws]

The jerks overshadow the good guys 😔 like I'm 16 and I was trying to remember the not annoying guys in my school years up to now 💀✋🏿like some were just chill but I could tell they were nervous about not putting up with the ish from the other guys or else they'd get made fun of too so they just laughed along

[@harutoSpring]

i wouldn't say the bar is low looking at how people are rn :)

[@melaninnrice9618]

The bar is in hell and men put it there

[@rishitaumasankaran7159]

@@melaninnrice9618 truuu

[@ananyasrivastava8771]

But seth is bringing the skater boi charm and good style to the table too

[@queen_of_the_moths]

I felt like the white girl getting into activism thing was important, because it was exposing all of the things that can go wrong when someone starts to take action without having a full understanding of the issues she's supporting. So often, white savior characters are treated as being the only ones in the film who aren't racist or homophobic or whatever crap, but that isn't reflective of real life, where people have to unlearn these things. To me, that element really highlighted the fact that it takes work, self-awareness, and a willingness to grow and change to be a good ally. You never get to see a white girl called out by her non-white friends, and it plants that seed in the mind of baby social activist white girls that being an ally doesn't make you immune from ignorance.

[@heatherwild2627]

exactly, I used to be uneducated and I am a white (I'm mixed with hispanic but I don't know much about my culture nor do I live with my hispanic family. So I just go by white because I'm white passing and was raised as a white girl) and i started getting into politics and real life problems near the end of 9th grade. I realized woah, guys at my school SUCK and why do I have to deal with it?? Then the stuff with George Floyd happened and It woke me up. I have never been a racist person but I realized how many stereotypes I thought were true, and how I used to be fully supportive of the cops. Its taken a while, and I think I still have certain stereotypes about groups of people, and I try my hardest to push by them and educate myself and even my friends. like a white boy I met online was such a shitty person, but after I started at least attempting to teach him, he's learning. Neither of us are perfect, but we're learning :) also I think this movie could be a wake up call to specific white girls, or just girls period, about what's happening. I wish I could have watched it a while ago

[@Crawlingdreams418]

i'd also like to see someone address self-hating people from privileged groups in activism through a movie/tv show as well. i do agree that people should acknowledge wrongdoings and discrimination, but whining "oh, i'm so homophobic cuz i'm not sapphic" doesn't fucking help anyone. these mfs are reblogged all over twitter and instagram, and, tbh, that feels less like doing the right thing and more like an angst fest from someone's LiveJournal or AngelFire website.

[@Sammy-dq6wt]

exactly! i was thinking the same thing!

[@spookyho5994]

@@heatherwild2627 I went through a really similar phase, also being a mixed girl who’s white passing. The thing is, when I first learned how fucked up everything actually is and problems we face, I concentrated on things that happened in the USA specifically, even though I live in Germany. It’s good that I learned what was happening there, but not only did I not bother looking further into these issues in order to really understand why we need to talk about them, but I also didn’t see the problems going on in my own country and the prejudices my own mother who is Brazilian has to face by living here. And I realised that racism/sexism in Germany or other countries in general isn’t rly spoken about or how certain things are tolerated when they really shouldn’t be. I can make a change starting here and work on being an actual ally, not just a performative one and educating myself.

[@LaughingInTiny]

This is a fantastic comment. Much of the current dialog makes it seem like white people just have to sing a different tune to be an ally, not actually dig into their own place in the system. Also, if this is supposed to mimic real life they did a decent job of showing her confusion.. . Or rather, almost lack of confusion because she doesn't know enough yet to be confused? Her tangent at the dinner table was super annoying, but I may have had a tangent or two at that age "BECAUSE LIFE WAS SO UNFAAAAIR" (

[@neruneru9713]

Claudia talking about her mom's sacrifices for her and that she doesn't have the freedom to act as freely as main girl--THAT HIT HARD.

[@withcindy]

TELL IT CLAUDIA!

[@harshiniyedevelli5278]

It was so relatable though when you have that kind of background you can't really afford to make "mistakes"

[@lia1tan]

I wish I could’ve said something like that to my white friends growing up. They were always thinking that I didn’t care or had no true opinions just because I didn’t have the freedoms that they did to do certain things. At the time I was still living with internalized racism so I felt guilty and hated myself. Now I know better and is the reason why I’m not friends with those people anymore.

[@kaybowling29]

I love(d) a girl like this. Exactly like this. We were two Asian women dependent on our families. She and her mom were and will always be a team - the two of them against the world. Suffice it to say, our relationship didn't work out in the end. But I was and will always be so proud of her. It's such a heavy burden to bear and she's taking it all in as well as she could.

[@bananas2002]

I'm a white passing Latina that grew up with purely white people and their culture, so the imposter syndrome is STRONG! But I'm glad Claudia said what she said, it really reminded me that white privilege also applies to me, no matter how much of an immigrant I am, with immigrant parents and the culture I grew up in being mostly white outside my home. It was a harsh wake-up call, but a welcome one.

[@sophiecrophie7540]

Okay some parts of the movie were better than the book, but there was this amazing part in the book where in response to the dress code rules , Moxie didn't tell the girls to dress in tank tops, but actually big fluffy bathrobes over their clothes so they were in absolutely no danger of distracting the precious male students. And in class, the teacher notices one girl wearing it and tells her to take it off so she goes lmao sure and takes it off and she's only wearing a bright red bikini top under it. It was great

[@sophiecrophie7540]

Also this isn't related but Cindy I started watching Julie and the Phantoms because you recommended it please validate me. The Other Side of Hollywood is such a god damn bop right?!

[@withcindy]

all the songs in JATP are a bop!! :D

[@ramiyahlee6108]

I remember that part it was ICONIC

[@sophiecrophie7540]

@@ramiyahlee6108 YES. I get why they simplified it but IMAGINE how iconic it would be to see on screen

[@nesspuckridge9816]

THAT PART WAS AWESOME

[@Griggyboy7030]

I loved that the main character was almost acting like a white savior for a bit it made it more realistic because all white people have to realize their privilege at some point now that she has she can start her growth

[@Aster_Risk]

I think that bit is important for so many white girls and women to see.

[@Akihito007]

Yea not like white people had to bust their asses off and invented almost every modern invention that everyone else relies on. If white people didn’t have to prop up everyone else while being bashed for it, MAYBE they wouldn’t be so mad for the West being bashed for being so great. EVERYONE who lives in America is privileged!

[@user-xr4nw3pt2v]

@@Akihito007 bro have you read a SINGLE book on history in your life that wasn't about how great white people are???

[@Akihito007]

@@user-xr4nw3pt2v Considering I went to University for History, white people HAVE been great in creating the West, the BEST society in the WORLD! North America, Oceania and Europe have the best GDP WORLDWIDE while Asia and Africa are the lowest. Africa is so dirt poor compared to the rest of the world that most of them are LUCKY to work all day for $1 a day. The West and white people have uplifted BILLIONS out of abject poverty just from our free market capitalism, inventions, medical knowledge and discoveries and on and on.

[@cloudzero3674]

@@Akihito007jesus christ bro calm tf down 💀

[@murron1125]

The boyfriend was way better in the movie. In the book he was very “not all men”. Like at one point his girlfriend gets groped in the hall and he’s like, “well remember we’re not all like that”

[@withcindy]

EWWWWWWW NOOOOO

[@rebecabeza]

Yeah, I liked Seth a lot more. Like, he seemed to understand afterwards why "not all men" is problematic stance, but at the same time it always seemed like Vivian just let it slide because she likes him romantically or that it wasn't really that sincere

[@carolbaskin1857]

Wow it’s usually the others way around but I’m glad he’s better in the movie

[@lesbiangoddess290]

Yeah. The nastiness when I read it. I can't stand the not all men crap because yes we know but you are part of the problem by saying that shit because that means you have some guilt your holding on to.

[@pokaay3163]

Just people who bring up the “not all of us” argument when people are talking about discrimination or mistreatment in general is so bs, because yes, not all, but A LOT and that’s the point of it.

[@cLeVeRbOoKwOrM123]

Vivian trying to make her bff wear spaghetti straps is like telling a muslim girl to wear the same top and then be upset with her if she doesn't - we all show solidarity in different ways.

[@withcindy]

PERIODDDD

[@sans-ii1yc]

Apparently this school doesn't have Muslims btw and also people who just don't like showing skin because everyone wore it. EXCEPT ONE GIRL

[@cLeVeRbOoKwOrM123]

@@sans-ii1yc I think forcing someone to do something they are uncomfortable with is wrong.

[@jina8960]

i was gonna comment this i'm so glad you did thank you for mentioning it

[@sans-ii1yc]

@@cLeVeRbOoKwOrM123 no no that legit what I meant that they called out Claudia whereas so many people wouldn't have worn spighetti tops - (I was being sarcastic in the last part of that sentence - lmao sorry)

[@lottie7813]

I’m white and the “u don’t get it cuz ur white” scene rly made me think a lot and I love it for that

[@sarcasm8007]

Genuinely like I can't imagine the shit we take for granted on a daily basis and don't even think twice about it. 💀💀💀💀

[@airmaxy7377]

I seriously appreciate you guys not getting offended over that line

[@Network-yp8de]

@@sarcasm8007 fuck...

[@sarcasm8007]

@@airmaxy7377 Nothing to be offended about it's true and I admire it, I didn't see it coming because no movie had ever had the guts to say it but this one did which I thought was incredibly shocking, funny but also really admirable to do.

[@wendys_lemonade2459]

yes!!! our privilege does so much more than we think it does, I feel like that moment was needed for me

[@D3niz3n]

I really like that the transgender character was just...there. She was just a person, as it should be.

[@RandomFinds.c]

I think the same. They all project the LGBT+ character like the only thing they have is their sexuality to be interesting, which is not.

[@jgalletta]

It’s cool that she was there for the sake of being one of the friend group, but I would have liked a side story that went a little deeper into her character. They centered a lot of problems young women face and were intersectional with racial issues, but I think there was a missed opportunity to explore a trans woman’s perspective.

[@bigclitenergy]

@@jgalletta yeah but idk I think it's nice that they made a trans gender character without making their entire existence about them just being trans for once

[@oyinkansolaadebajo9716]

@@jgalletta Yes! Also the disabled character, as a black disabled woman I was a bit disappointed by that.

[@kennynelson7585]

they did nothing with her character, i don’t even remember seeing her. not the rem y’all think it is.

[@erinprizant5542]

The way that white dude acted reminds me of someone who started stalking me in college. The teacher didn't seem to care, either, even tho I only went to him to inform him of my concerns and to ask not to be paired with him for any class activities; the teacher just kept being like "are you sure you're not overreacting?" That honestly traumatized me more than the stalking at that point. That was a miserable semester.

[@withcindy]

EWWWW NOOOOO

[@ariahazelwood3842]

I'm sorry Erin 😐

[@Heidi2003]

I'm so sorry

[@princessmanitari4993]

Hope you're doing okay now! Stay safe & be safe.

[@georgiaberg3619]

I'm so sorry that happened to you! :( I just recently had an uncomfortable interaction with a male classmate at uni and I finally talked to my lecturer about it & said I was fine with switching to distance learning, my lecturer said he's going to make HIM switch and just truly validated my whole experience. I never expected such a wonderful response and I really hope there are more lecturers like mine out there :( 💙

[@just-trying-my-best-everyday]

"When I was 16, all I cared about was smashing the patriarchy and burning it all down." As a 16 year old, yes.

[@voidpriestess8339]

As a 15 year old, yes

[@christie6515]

as a 14 year old, yes 🙏🏼

[@Clover12367]

as an fetus yes

[@thecriticalthinker4527]

As a 14yr old boy yes

[@rad7149]

As a 13 yld child, yes

[@sk8aintstr813]

watching cindy being hit with the comebacks these side characters gave at the main girl was probably the most satisfying thing I ever saw

[@withcindy]

my feelings were hurt and i aint even the main character

[@maep3048]

not gonna lie, i think it’s interesting that the main character is white because her being called out like that by her friends is a bit of a fuck you against the white savior trope. not entirely since she still is the instigator of the saving movement but the movie makes it known that none of the characters of color could’ve kicked it off so radically without facing bigger consequences than her. e.g. claudia with her mom and facing immediate consequences by association and lucy not being taken seriously at all by authorities and being adultified, which are very real and terrible issues that affect people every single day. by having us see this in direct opposition to the privileged white girl we spend the most time with i think it really highlights these differences when we are reminded of them. not saying that this was an amazing decision in general but i do see value in it in this specific case. maybe i’m reaching or being too optimistic but that’s the effect it had on me at least lol

[@conniethesconnie]

I hated the idea that an author can only write people of their own ethnicity. It's fiction. It's not an autobiography. The author should be able to take on whatever persona they desire. If a privileged white woman can develop an interesting lead character who is a gay asian male why not go for it.

[@gabrielablazejova4143]

@@conniethesconnie maybe she wanted to portrait herself and like Cindy said, people would call her out

[@hanaomer4419]

@@conniethesconnie I can see why people don’t like it tho because it’s not your story to tell. How many published books are there with gay Asian leads? Not many if any at all. So why is a white women able to get those stories out there? Why is she able to tell our stories for us? Also there’s the problem of how stories told by outsiders are prone to be problematic or incorrect. Like how male writes almost always _suck_ at writing not just female characters but feminism as well. So it’s not that you can’t write for other ethnicities but in some cases you have to think about whether you should.

[@fey__3919]

@@conniethesconnie Because the author is a white woman and most of the story comes from the perspective of a white woman. It's easy to write about characters who are nothing like ourselves, but when it comes to personal life and characters thoughts and background it's more personal and detailed. As a white woman I could write about a character of any race or background... but when it comes to a first person P.O.V I can only write about white women... since I am a white woman... can't really be out here assuming the lives and thoughts of black women just because I want a black female lead...

[@titotobi-lawal2083]

the part where the afrolatina and 'sassy' black girl kissed took me out because it was out of nowhere and they did nothing to carry on a relationship lmao

[@withcindy]

they truly were like "lets give a SPRINKLE of lgbt+ representation"

[@aniya5169]

It wouldn’t be Netflix if they didn’t add a random lgbtq+ couple

[@artsysundae]

RIGHT i was so confused lmaoo

[@cynthiaanderson6410]

Right? My first thought was that it could be cute if there was literally any build up

[@sydeLPS]

This is in the book too and it's so damn weird omg

[@MarMarital]

Calling out the main character?? In a teen movie???? Showing that they were wrong????

[@withcindy]

WHO WOULDA THOUGHT

[@nobitanobi3475]

As someone who is a teen , This has got to be the most accurate "teen" movie representation ever.

[@Justtry4525]

kinda reminded me of 'the edge if 17'. the main chara also gets called out there

[@Zippyzappy339]

Pack it up "Sierra Burgess is a big fat loser"

[@asroriadraws]

@@nobitanobi3475 SAME

[@Leoji0325]

When the boyfriend and the best friend were blunt with her it was my favorite part tbh, like she was only thinking about herself the whole time and not how it'd affect others

[@abbaliciouz7208]

She didn't put the clip in the video, but the women who was raped in the video mentioned that Mitchell was her boyfriend at the time, and I love that they brought up that fact. For anyone that doesn't know, DATING DOES NOT EQUAL CONSENT!

[@UmbraKrameri]

I personally liked how the trans girl was integrated into this story. After the year of the TERF wars, it was just refreshing that she was just... there. And no one questioned that. It was a bit unrealistic but in a wholesome way. Also that some characters were just casual lesbians.

[@hideakisorachi3953]

I'm writing a story rn and the main characters are lesbians. the story is really cliche and the writing isnt phenomenal, but it's nice to write about queer characters just existing. I read books and watch shows for escapism, so it's kinda tiring when you have to deal with homophobia/transphobia in real life and in media as well all. of course it's important to not disregard issues, but I just wanna read a cute story sometimes.

[@lunaticindigo5004]

@@hideakisorachi3953 i need to see this story

[@D3niz3n]

I love it, reminds me of my friend group in secondary school

[@cynthiaanderson6410]

The actress is actually trans as well which is really really cool

[@hideakisorachi3953]

it's on wattpad! it's called "bones of rust"

[@sethrayne8076]

i'm actually kind of glad that the protagonist was white and was constantly called out, the movie showed how you can have good intentions but end up hurting the people you were fighting for, and i think that it's nice for a white director to call themselves and their community out. lord knows we need it

[@Vanessa-fk2om]

I remember being taken aside by a teacher for wearing a tank top with spaghetti straps. She told me to go home and change and I just went to my next class. NO TIME FOR GAMES I GOTTA LEARN ABOUT THE PYTHAGOREAN THEOREM

[@withcindy]

GOOD FOR U

[@shreya-fg5mu]

OK QUEEN

[@air_hum]

A²+B²=C² SUPREMACY >:|

[@MrIcarusEl]

I really appreciate the whole "quietly rebel" thing they had with Claudia. As someone who is a major introvert and gets uncomfortable and anxious during social interactions, I really appreciated that they mentioned you don't have to be loud and in your face to rebel or fight for a cause.

[@SingingSuperstar28]

I mean someone has to take care of the administrative things and that's gonna be people like us 😉

[@giovannirafael5351]

Yes I felt seen.

[@mariakara2419]

yesss i appreciate that

[@nindie]

Yeah I relate to her

[@Gaburierairuze]

The salad scene is exactly what a lot of people think feminist are all like because they saw the wrath of an uneducated pissed off person on Twitter reaching over the smallest of things 🙃

[@emmamichelsohn7515]

To me the salad scene was simply an overwhelmed child reaching her breaking point. It wasn't about any of the issues at that point, it was a 16-year-old girl who was confused and scared and facing a situation she no longer had any clue how to fix (not that she had any clue to begin with). I think the actress portrayed the emotional breaking point very well.

[@funnyvalentine1848]

Tbh yeah- It gives them a bad Reputation and I can say that it affects lots of people's POV on stuff

[@laurenkathleen2221]

I really hope there is more representation in media, especially teen movies. It sucks to consistently see POC as side characters instead of the main character. However, I loved that the movie didn't shy away from pointing out the main girl's white privilege. They didn't show her as a "savior" character that was perfect and helping save all of these other girls. Most of the ideas came from Lucy, and Lucy was seen as the leader a lot of the time as well. The criticism is valid and highlighting stories that feature POC is very important, but I think this is also an important story to tell.

[@withcindy]

i agree!

[@pogpogpog7507]

honestly I think it would have been more problematic if the white author had written the main character as a POC. like cindy said, it's not the white author's place to write from the perspective of a POC when she doesn't share the life experiences she wishes to speak on. I think she wrote it the right way - white girl main character who gets deservingly called out for her flaws. I'd absolutely love to see more POC main characters, but not written by white people.

[@Graid]

@@pogpogpog7507 Up until very recently I feel like everyone was saying 'write characters who aren't like you as main characters, research things carefully, don't settle for just having main characters who are just like you in background, ethnicity, etc when we are so in need of representation of marginalised groups as more than just side characters'. And now it's like a weird sudden cultural 180- I've read MULTIPLE things suddenly acting like it's a transgression and 'problematic' for a white person to write something with a not-white protagonist. White people should only write white main characters now?

[@tenten1153]

@@Graid it’s not about white authors should only write white characters, just that they need to be careful about the kinds of stories they tell about BIPOC. white people are often given the opportunity to write stories about the lives and cultures of BIPOC, while BIPOC authors are often not given those same opportunities to write about our own cultures because it’s often been labeled “unmarketable” and “alienating” to a white audience when we do so. Basically, we want white people to write diversely but to not tell stories that are so deeply intimate to the lives of BIPOC. For example, writing an asian character for your fantasy story is fine, but writing a story about an asian american immigrant and their life and struggles as an asian american immigrant is odd because, like Cindy said at the end of her video, “thats not a white person’s story to tell.” it’s better to advocate for BIPOC to tell our own stories rather than white people taking and telling those stories themselves, thereby profiting off the life experiences of BIPOC. the shift from “write more BIPOC into your stories” to “stay in your lane, leave the intimate BIPOC stories to BIPOC” ISNT a contradiction but just an expansion of the conversation

[@pogpogpog7507]

@@Graid there's a difference between non-POC writing POC characters and non-POC writing POC characters discussing POC issues that they haven't experienced nor will ever truly understand.

[@lottevanderpaelt1684]

I feel for these characters so hard. I never understood why we couldn't wear skirts that were 'too short' or spaghetti straps to school, while guys didn't have any restrictions at all. One time, my friend got called out by the teacher because she was wearing a shirt with long sleeves, but the shoulders were kind of cut out of it, so according to that teacher, it was "a bit too sexy"...

[@roselover411]

Right? Like, you would rather patrol our fashion choices rather than teach the guys to get their brains away from their dicks? Seriously, come on! Teach men to respect women and not be concerned with what we choose to wear, teach them how to focus so that we don't become this 'huge distraction' for them, teach them that regardless what we're wearing, it does not constitute "she was asking for it" as an excuse!

[@withcindy]

yep it really goes to show how girls already get sexualized at a young age

[@emmalijewski8302]

That sucks and uncomfortable. I wore a shirt like that to school once and no one said anything, in fact a lot of girls wore shirts like that

[@mahi93162]

@@roselover411 also I feel like some guys don't even care, it's the teachers just making a big deal about it or creepy male teachers who sexualize their students

[@just-trying-my-best-everyday]

If a teacher says a student is a bit too sexy, he shouldn't be a teacher.

[@ramshafarooq]

Bruh when I first watched this movie, I legit cried at the part when the movie showed different instances where the girls were getting legit harrassed (that guy trying to take Emma's pom poms aggressively, or that shirt throw, or that guy being obnoxious etc.) and no one batted an eye because we're just so used to accepting everything guys do as "immature, childish behaviour" when it's clearly not. Like Lucy says, they're not "annoying", they're straight up dangerous.

[@withcindy]

yup, this is how it escalates. it's always the small things first

[@Network-yp8de]

boys will be b̶o̶y̶s̶ held accountable for their actions

[@Dinomater_]

"Because sometimes the only way that they'll stop is if you fucking punch them in the face" I hate how true this is

[@withcindy]

yep...

[@lesbiangoddess290]

Yup and if we use violence or seem threatening we're the bitch or the problem or being too aggressive, when there is a literal privileged white boy creep standing right next to you knowing hes going to get away with everything because he exists. I-

[@annie2845]

:(

[@Skinniest_Kween]

Fun fact: The generic looking high school white boy is actually Arnold Schwarzenegger's son in real life.

[@NyxToStyx]

I guess he does a really good job at playing a very unlikable character... he seemed nice in real life tho

[@Skinniest_Kween]

@@NyxToStyx yeah, he's really sweet irl.

[@ThePinkHamster190]

I always feel bad for the actors that have to play the asshole characters bc they’ll have hella people coming for them. I’m sure that he’s a nice chill guy irl but the character is a walking ick which is kinda the point lol

[@mynameisreallycool1]

@@ThePinkHamster190 Yeah, if he were just like the character in the movie, he wouldn't be in this movie that supports feminist messages in the first place.

[@lauriex8832]

HE HAS A SON?!

[@avekatumba4794]

Not this movie low-key snapping. I'm impressed that they didn't give the yt man a redemption arc as they do for a lot of trashy men in netflix shows.

[@withcindy]

good, as he shouldnt!!

[@jungyoungjin5914]

I agree. He shouldn't hv a redemption arc because he started as a loser and ended up like a loser

[@RockArtist1999]

"YOU DON'T GET WHAT'S GOING ON WITH ME BECAUSE YOU'RE WHITE" SIS SPILLING FACTSSSSSS

[@withcindy]

she went for the JUGULAR

[@ladytalksalot4097]

Right, because why have a conversation about different family dynamics, different culture, and different socioeconomic factors when you can just say, "you can't understand because of an immutable trait you had no say in so just shut up". How not-racist of you.

[@cyagami90]

@@ladytalksalot4097 the fact that this is how you took it is very white privelege of you

[@rexcabrera8398]

@@ladytalksalot4097 are we pretending that all those other things you mentioned aren't related to race... cause they are... that is intersectionality.

[@Alsyoutubeaccount]

I feel like her having a liberal mother was the reason she didn’t get it, not just because she’s white. There are a lot of white people, myself included, who had very strict parents and couldn’t do everything other kids did which they didn’t understand because their parents let them do whatever they want. Maybe it would make more sense in the context of the entire film, but just from that scene, it seemed weird to say she doesn’t get it because she’s white.

[@OctoberLotus]

As a white person, I actually like that they took this white girl with her “good intentions” and gave her a dose of reality. Teach more kids that you can be an ally without taking away from those you’re supposed to be supporting.

[@paperbutterfly]

The book, for me, has a lot of depth and feelings that the movie missed. Spoiler alert, in the walk-out scene, the girls didn't immediately run out of the door. Only a few minutes after the bell rang did one girl stood up, and it was Emma. Before she walked out, she said something like "F*ck you Mitchell." Only then the girls did leave the room.

[@Onelargefriesplease]

Thank you for sharing 😊

[@saotastic]

“I love all these kids! They are so cute!” Me too distracted that they are all 23-27 year olds playing 16-17 year olds...

[@withcindy]

they got the SPIRIT

[@123biler]

It's a hard work in unsafe environment. I'm fine with actual kids not doing it 😊

[@TheSamuelbest12]

Really??? I knew they were not 15-16, but I thought they were 18-22

[@biazacha]

@@123biler hard agree, we have way too much child stars having it rough once they reach adulthood.

[@circlinq]

"Cover up, so we can all keep on learning" If I ever hear someone saying this to my students I'll throw chalk

[@withcindy]

as u should

[@okaysoanyways2645]

Girl... chalk? nah throw the whole chalk BOARD at them

[@circlinq]

@@okaysoanyways2645 1. physically impossible jdksfhdkjf 2. and to be honest we don't even have chalkboards anymore 😂 I'll throw whatever is in my reach

[@okaysoanyways2645]

@@circlinq Throw a desk💀💀💀

[@dayan6514]

I was literally holding my breath the whole movie scared that Seth was gonna become the stereotypical boyfriend in teen movies that support her till he does something problematic and then wins her back at the end with the bare minimum love confession. But they didn’t do that with his character and I was so happy

[@aimun5255]

I felt the Asian girl thing so much, as a person from the new generation with all these grand ideas about feminism but with parents from a very traditional upbringing, it's so hard to even speak up about these things bc of how culturally embedded it is for women to be idk quieter and not act like a "spoilt lil white girl"

[@withcindy]

i hope u will be able to find ur voice someday

[@viennn_le]

EXACTLY!

[@zuhasajid900]

So TRUE!

[@warmersquid9108]

I think the main character being white, the writer of the book being white is like, yes good thing she didn’t try to write from the perspective of another race. I personally thought the main character was super relatable. She dealt with almost everything exactly how I would’ve. And having her be white and be called out on so many things because of that really made me look at myself and be like, ok, just because I’m a woman doesn’t mean I’m so incredibly oppressed. I am the least oppressed woman. I’m white, and straight, and cis. Idk, I thought it was nice to have a wake up call to that thing because I think once women like me get sucked into the feminism and sexism, we forget to acknowledge our insane privilege amongst other women and races of other genders. Idk if that’s unpopular, but that’s just my opinion. I might be swayed considering I related immensely to the main character solely on personality.

[@chantellew1782]

Hi, mortician here: them being in that casket together is so freaking illegal and would cost them so much cash! (They would have to buy the casket;once someone is in it, can’t recycle). I know it’s just a movie, but that sent me to the moon

[@withcindy]

OOOOHHH thats so bad!! i mean they snuck in so no one will know. but that means someone will buy a casket that has already been used!

[@chantellew1782]

Also, that was likely an extended size casket. Standard caskets are a good fit for one person on their back, maybe two v thin people on their sides, but you’d still probably have to shove them in.

[@luzelenaserrano1236]

That FELT illegal, makes sense that it's not allowed

[@loveloveaii]

The first scene with Claudia and her mom legit gave me intense flashbacks with my own mom because I speak Mandarin and I could perfectly understand what she was saying- and the part about her mom’s sacrifices just. Made me tear up. And the fact she literally got kicked out- For those of you who don’t, she’s basically going on some sort of rant about “Excuse me? What are you wearing? That’s inappropriate, don’t you want to go to college? You’ll get expelled and never go to college ever again. Is that what you want?” Something like that, maybe even worse, but something about being expelled and college and grades- ALSO THE WHOLE SCENE WHERE THEY ALL STOOD UP AND WALKED OUT AND THEY WERE ALL SO HAPPY AND CONFIDENT. FOR THAT ONE GIRL. AND I’M NOT EVEN A R*PE VICTIM BUT I LEGIT CRIED AT THAT SCENE- AND THEN WHEN THE GIRL SCREAMED I CRIED AGAIN BECAUSE IT WAS SO EMOTIONAL AND IT WASN’T A CUTE LITTLE “aaaaaaaaaa” AT ALL. IT WAS LEGIT A SCREAM FULL OF HATRED AND BFNFHFHFHNFNSFHSJFHNSNFN

[@withcindy]

her poor mom predicted this :(

[@mcatherine36]

Omg thanks for translating for us! 😃 I couldn't really enjoy the scene where the girls walked out of school and then the victim spoke up because I felt like at that part, the movie was kinda downplaying how serious rape and sexual harassment is. I'm not a victim or anything but I feel like most people who experienced that kind of thing would not want to speak up about it in front of a bunch of people they don't even really know, even if those people are displaying solidarity to them. I mean, in the first place the girl had said she wanted to remain anonymous, and I feel like that's not something she would suddenly want to change. It's a very serious issue and affects the mental health of victims greatly, so I just felt uncomfortable with the portrayal because it didn't seem to be very thoughtful or considerate to the victim or what their feelings might be.

[@loveloveaii]

@@mcatherine36 Tbh you’re right, maybe that scene would’ve been better if they all just got up and walked out silently instead of with cheerful music, and the part where she’s giving a speech it could’ve been much more serious. And I’ve never been sexually harassed but I’ve been a victim of abuse, and I feel like if I were in a crowd of people who are all here to support my case and care about me (even if we’re strangers), I’d feel so, so much more confident about speaking up, even if the abuser is right there. But I know some others would be scared, so it really just depends on the person.

[@loveloveaii]

@@withcindy OMG WHAT I JUST REALIZED SHE DID NOOOOOOO-

[@mcatherine36]

@@loveloveaii Yeah, I think the thing that really bothers me is that afterwards, there is no true resolution for the victim. All we see is that Moxie allowed her to speak up, but nothing seemed to happen in the aftermath to support her? Like the movie doesn't even bother to portray her mental struggles and the main character doesn't seem to do anything else for her either. I just feel icky that they threw in a rape victim to make the mc's organization 'achieve' something, but then after that they just kinda cast aside the issue and never fully addressed it. Tbh I feel like the movie did that with all the issues it portrayed - they took a serious issue, had the mc be involved, but then the mc never does anything else to resolve them or get some form of closure. It's just very unsatisfying and doesn't allow the plot to really have any resolution for the issues presented. And then the mc just continues on with her life like she actually did something. But in reality, she did very little.

[@georgia5026]

"I've been nothing but supportive of you, I don't deserve to be your punching bag" I liked this, calling it like it is. Nice

[@momoredel2295]

I love how Cindy knows the plot to everything before even finishing it.

[@withcindy]

predicting teen movies is my forte

[@reganl3059]

I just read a lot of fanfiction lol

[@pastelhotmess9299]

YA novels really do be predictable sometimes

[@Juupitrr]

THE POC SIDE CHARACTERS GOING AFTER THE WHITE MAIN CHARA GIVES ME LIFE

[@withcindy]

ME TOO

[@coralrose5754]

IT WAS GREAT FJEJDKASK

[@plastictree7635]

Low key like Grand Army 💀🤔

[@saigie3908]

@@plastictree7635 Not rlly. Nobody calls them out. It’s the audience. Joey for ex. (Her rape was rlly disheartening), but other than that she is the def. of white savior hurting poc with her activism.

[@plastictree7635]

@@saigie3908From what I remember Dominique continuously called her out to where she complained to her ytboy friends all the time. She didn’t read her tho I think.

[@emmytong8784]

This movie should have had any of the Poc characters as the protagonist tho to show struggles from their perspective Also the fact this movie was filmed at my school has me SHOOK

[@francescakyanda9182]

I haven't even watched the movie and that was the first thing I asked about

[@moldyboy354]

but how would they market it to wheat liberals then 😔😔😔😔 then the only character they could relate to is the woman hating jock guy !! /s

[@Gayu4567]

LITERALLY!!!! Much better movie w any of the POC/LGBT charas

[@ww.DuzaFizz]

I had an idea that it would've worked if the story stayed the same, but it was told from Claudia's perspective.

[@thecriticalthinker4527]

Same

[@RaiiSkaii]

I’m white but from an Immigrant family with very similar values and problems as claudia so it felt quite emotional seeing Claudia trying to be a part of something and helping but being held back

[@dewekiwi9602]

Why couldn’t Lucy be the main character? I love her style and it would’ve been cool to see all of this from the perspective of a POC

[@withcindy]

yea i wish this was a miniseries so we couldve dived into everyones POVs more!

[@mahi93162]

that's true but I think it's based on an actual book

[@artsysundae]

ikr!

[@ehhhno9932]

I genuinely thought she was the love interest at first

[@artsysundae]

@@ehhhno9932 same!! Especially when they were shopping

[@audreysong9887]

Cindy’s analyses are just the right balance of depressive sarcasm, accurate deep thinking, and picking up on bipoc and lgbtq issues and perspectives. It’s an accurate and thoughtful analysis but it’s funny and relatable. Edit: also, as an asian american girl, I love seeing another asian american woman on this platform discussing these topics (and books) and spilling the tea

[@withcindy]

thank you

[@Gayu4567]

Cindy predicting the entire plot of the movie at 7:00 minute mark has me dyING

[@withcindy]

always

[@mckenzieehlers5328]

One thing I didn't like about this movie was the scene where the one girl admitted to tripping a guy who ended up breaking his wrist for no reason. He didn't even do anything

[@totallynotarussianspy5336]

i really wish they did a "wonder" type thing where each character got a section which delves into how those characters feel and deal with the moxie club and how they handle social justice. Especially Claudia as she has the cultural sensitivity at home to deal with and her school expectations of getting involved

[@sorrygrimmjow]

"I understand your frustrations, but I really don't care for your white tears right now" 💀💀💀

[@withcindy]

i sympathize but to a certain extent LOL

[@ladytalksalot4097]

Ah, yes, because being racist towards a white person is *such* a great way to make people not racist.

[@heatherheath3834]

@@ladytalksalot4097 dude. shut the fuck up and go learn what racism is. you're making the rest of us look bad.

[@strangereactions6]

@@ladytalksalot4097 ???

[@Nana-wi4gi]

@@ladytalksalot4097 Who tf is being racist lmao?

[@anamkouser7271]

As an indian I could relate to the Asian girl on a high level

[@withcindy]

hang in there bb

[@sarroumarbeu6810]

*sigh* same

[@haesunoh2563]

HOW WAS THE ASIAN GIRL SPITTING SUCH FACTS GOODBYE ✈️

[@withcindy]

i love that for her

[@Monkeyzforever]

ngl I spent the whole movie pissing myself whenever "You don't matter give up" sign was on screen I was actually sad when it changed to "you matter don't give up"

[@withcindy]

wait it did?! i totally didnt notice lol

[@kerryn1207]

I WAS LAUGJING AT IT SM

[@sarasthoughts]

Nobody: Me seeing displays of solidarity: 😭😭😭

[@withcindy]

same😭😭😭

[@sarroumarbeu6810]

Freaking same ;-;

[@discountasian]

The way Claudia and Seth called her out left me in shock, this is like the first time I've seen a movie do this

[@nahtbergin]

I’ve seen so many reviews treating this story as if it wasn’t made for 14/15 year olds. It was made for them (and I mean this in the best way) There are few movies truly made for this age range with actors and story’s their age.

[@ww.DuzaFizz]

Exactly, I'm 15 and honestly, this immediately became a comfort film for me. Over quarantine I completely forgot how sexist people were, so when I came back to school it was like a complete slap in the face. I love this film, it may be 'cheesy' but fuck it, we've had enough gritty, dramatic stories, we want sweet comfort films like this!!

[@withcindy]

so true!! its a good introduction for teens!

[@DeathnoteBB]

Seriously I swear critics forget movies aren’t just for adults

[@sushigoose_]

@@DeathnoteBB Like how people criticize decent kids movies for not being the next ATLA

[@cryforhelp7270]

I feel bad for liking Moxie... I'm a black girl and I still felt hyped over this white girl supposedly representing everyone else lol. I did take it as more of a teen movie, and since I was a teen and had recently been witnessing the issues they were pointing out- I felt heard, and got hyped. But when you back away from the movie a bit and look at it a little more, you just start seeing the little things that are... Off. I don't know, often times I feel ashamed of myself for liking certain things, even if it's in the moment. Just something I wanted to share.

[@gabytenor1226]

I relate a lot. I'm a black girl too, and I didn't take the movie seriously, I generally enjoyed it. I completely understand that it has several issues when you step back and look at it tho, and it should be talked about

[@bitchisalive]

Same! But you can like something and still criticize it💜 Never forget it

[@cryforhelp7270]

@@gabytenor1226 Yeah, I think it deserves to be talked about and I'd love to talk about it with others too. Because it needs to be, and there's a clear problem. Though sometimes it feels like I'm being put down for liking it in the first place. But Cindy and these replies made me feel better about it :) thanks. I'll criticize and enjoy this movie

[@Chachixo]

I don't think you should feel bad for liking it. There is a lot of good in the movie's message and it's kind of inspiring. I'm a black woman in my late 20s now and it made me wish that my classmates and I stood up to harassment too. It is far from perfect, but what/who is? Like Ira said, you can like something and still criticize it. :)

[@Gayu4567]

Personally for me, mb cuz I'm alr 19?, but I felt I gained nothing from this movie,,,,like the issues they touched (if at all) were very surface level at best and didn't engage in any meaningful ideas :/ But I think its a net positive if anyone feels like they can learn something either way.

[@msjkramey]

I usually don't like when the main character is white, surrounded by "magical POC" that teach her life lessons, but I feel like this was handled well (based solely on your review). Normally, the problem is that they're all naive and innocent and can't be blamed for the world's problems, but this movie was like "No, you're a dick. Get over yourself and actually do something." As a basic white chick that used to be super ignorant and is just trying to learn these days, I like that. I wish I had been called a coward at a younger age like that and maybe I would have progressed a bit faster. It's a really shitty phenomenon that as a white cis straight-passing person, you kind of live with blinders on until you see something happen to a friend and then you start to wake up bit by bit. (You still get a lot wrong for sure though.) I mean, I've experienced sexism, harrassment, and rape, but I'm sure it's very different for other people who don't look like me. It would have been great if this was about the black girl instead because she knew what was up with that guy in the beginning and women of color are the ones who vote & get shit done for most equality movements. I'm gonna have to check this movie out now Edit: typo

[@withcindy]

i agree! im glad she learned!

[@noonstyles3973]

Yeah you're right it would have been great. Also sorry for what happened to you

[@msjkramey]

@@sarahjordan4845 as much as you'd expect. I was 14 and I just turned 27, so it was a long time ago. But the younger that happens to you, the longer it seems to impact you. I have really awesome friends and boyfriend now, so I have people to lean on. Need to get back into therapy though. PTSD therapy is terrifying and I've been avoiding it. I had one therapist explain the difference between a flashback and "reliving" it, and you have to toe that line and it's not fun and the way she explained it was scary accurate. I think it'll be worth it though

[@ginalynn1064]

I know why they had the mom scene with Claudia to show her situation but I'm like come on Claudia - you wear a shirt or jacket over the tank and take it off when you get to school!! duh

[@withcindy]

claudia defying the stereotype of smart asians we love to see it!

[@fishythefish7984]

@@withcindy I- PLEASE 😭😭😭💀💀💀

[@phosphenevision]

@@withcindy lmao

[@sarroumarbeu6810]

@@withcindy OMFG I did expect this 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭

[@someonesle9578]

"The quote in the corner You Don't Matter Give Up" 💀😭😭

[@frankundercoverdragon6288]

As someone who went to a very mysoginistic high school I really hope that we get more movies like this but with better intersectionality and that they blow up in popularity so that way my old high school and all other mysoginistic schools like it can get their inner patriarchies smashed by kids inspired by said movies

[@withcindy]

yessss i agree!

[@ColaLoser]

God I felt the counselor scene so hard. During lunch a couple friends and I sat at an outdoor picnic table and this group of guys said we stole their table??? When there were plenty of empty tables??? They threw food at us while some girl filmed my friend (who has anger issues) struggle to keep herself calm. It was on security cameras. They saw it. But they told us to move on. It was insignificant. Never got over it.

[@fishythefish7984]

I would've punched the guys 👦🤛 😃

[@ColaLoser]

@@fishythefish7984 Looking back on it, I wish I did

[@benesos5041]

To be honest this movie had so much potential to be good if it focused on the woc a lot more, a lot of woc are actually victims to white women and their self-centred feminism. If it focused more on them overcoming that aspect of feminism and the main character becoming more intersectional - it could’ve been greater. Especially as there is a lot of ambiguity with the minorities in this film as I didn’t even realise a character was transgender until the end and that could’ve been an important part to emphasise on

[@withcindy]

very true!

[@imthecoolestguyalive]

One thing that is really concerning to me, is how I expected the love interest to suddenly be a creep. I just waited for the big twist to happen, and him, like, forcing a kiss out of the protagonist, or something. I don't know why I expected that to happen, and I was so worried for the protagonist whenever these two were alone together.

[@staciii]

"I think you would make a good addition to the kkk" i- 😂 😂 💀

[@withcindy]

am i wrong tho

[@bridgetanne]

I got my masters in school counseling and it breaks my heart that schools DO let so many things slide ... when I was an intern I had to report teen dating violence and the school resource officer told the student “sounds like they just didn’t know how to be in a relationship”. I’m sorry WHAT? When my student told me that I flat out told them “fuck that guy, he’s wrong and you were so brave for telling me what you experienced.” I went to my supervisor and just went off. They told me “that’s so unfortunate ... sad thing is this resource officer is better than others” ... I’m looking at getting my PhD in educational social justice or policy instead of just working in a school were the system does nothing. Anyways, was curious about the movie and I lovvvve watching your reacts videos. Better than just watching the movie on its own LOL

[@justradiclesandco]

That sucks! I really don’t get why schools and teachers would let stuff like that slide when it’s their job to keep students safe. It’s good that you took the student’s side and you’re going into educational social justice

[@sagethemage3979]

As a white person, I'm just here for every part- including her being white and obviously problematic. It's something that needs to be looked at directly since there is such a bad habit of just shrugging away from anything that might be painful. I'm so happy this exists and that you shared it with us.

[@graciea71]

PLEASE THIS GOT ME “i think you would look good in the marching band” cindy: “ i think you would make a great addition to the ku klux klan”

[@withcindy]

it rhymes and it's catchy~

[@animezae]

Kinda annoyed that they fell into the stigma of “strong, fearless and confident Black woman = lesbian” but I guess! The movie was a great effort and had an awesome message regardless. Definitely something to show young ladies!!

[@StrawberryLegacy]

It's not a stigma (cause it's not a negative thing). If anything, it's a stereotype. And I feel like it pertains to strong women in general so in a movie about a bunch of feminists, making any character at all a lesbian (which is always a good idea) would have evoked that stereotype I think 🤷 But correct me if I'm wrong, I'm not American and not 100% in tune with American society.

[@animezae]

@@StrawberryLegacy mmmm it’s not a positive thing for all strong Black women to be perceived as lesbians but to each their own. It also doesn’t pertain to all women- white women get plenty of chances to be strong and successful women in film and literature without being lesbians or miserably single.

[@StrawberryLegacy]

@@animezae I just meant that being a lesbian isn't a bad thing - I don't want people calling it a stigma because that implies it's a bad thing, which is untrue. It is for some assholes, but inherently it is not. But yeah anyway maybe that stereotype is more pronounced for black women than white women, as I said I'm not American.

[@animezae]

@@StrawberryLegacy That’s a subjective perspective in itself and is not related to the point I was making, but I hear you. And yep, there’s a big difference between the two here in America!

[@clover3479]

@@animezae I'm not sure if I'm misreading so correct me if I'm wrong, but are you saying it's a subjecting about whether or not BEING a lesbian is good/bad, or whether or not being PERCEIVED as a lesbian is good or bad? For the first part (being one), that shouldn't be subjective at all. For the second part (being perceived as a lesbian when you aren't) I absolutely agree. Being perceived as a sexuality that you are not is pretty much always a bad thing.

[@charlie_et_ses_folies]

Am I the only who understood Claudia point of view from the beginning ? I mean, yes, at first, when had all that internalized misogyny and she didn't thought the ranked list was twisted and bad, that wasn't a good look. But I get introverted people who won't shout at a game in front of anyone. Also she was kinda right by saying "how drawing stars and hearts on your hand is going to change anything?" Because it is true, it doesn't change much. It shows support to other womxn, but it's like a black square on Instagram for BLM, you need to do more. Also, I don't know why, maybe because I'm used to token Asian, but I always kinda knew her family was strict and she couldn't afford to be compromised. We saw from the beginning college is an important thing to her and doing waves wouldn't help her getting the one of her choices

[@withcindy]

yea she does have a point there!!

[@smokesignals3953]

I'm a girl with a bigger chest area so I often get looks and things when I muster up the courage to wear cloths like that, it's really sad and I cant help but think of how the other girls who are bigger like me feel

[@withcindy]

so sorry u have to deal with that :(

[@smokesignals3953]

@@withcindy thank you I really appreciate it your an amazing person Cindy you really make me happy when nothing else can and it means the world to me

[@kitvaneceon7568]

Sis, I relate to you so hard, you and me both, our struggles are valid. The only time I wear tank tops and "cleavage-revealing clothes" is in the safety of my locked bedroom, it's scary out here with a big chest area.

[@smokesignals3953]

@@kitvaneceon7568 EXSACALLY I understand that completely it's quite sad but I'm glad someone gets me struggle as well

[@zen-nb2fd]

As someone who is currently reading The Great Gatsby in school, I liked that scene with Lucy. I don't get how we're still reading only that book to show the American dream. But also, I feel so bad for Lucy, she deserves so much more

[@elcrivain]

I lowkey kinda expected it that Cindy would mention Lara Jean ssjsjsj 😂

[@withcindy]

always

[@missbeliever2089]

@@withcindy and forever

[@idontknowwhatimdoing6296]

you talking about punching the guy in the face in HS reminded me of when a dude was harassing me in class but the teacher wouldn't do anything so i knocked him and his chair over (he was leaning so i kicked the leg) but the teacher didn't do anything bc they thought he fell so he stopped bothering me after that...

[@withcindy]

proud of u

[@idontknowwhatimdoing6296]

@@withcindy

[@BettyAlexandriaPride]

I'm a quiet rebel type of person, so I really appreciate the message that it's OK to take that approach.

[@lkntgkltrndfl]

8:20 so that when she fights back, he can pull the "black women are aggressive" shit and say she was being violent

[@withcindy]

yuppp

[@turner15]

“Sometimes the only way to make them stop is to punch them in the face.” - Cindy Put it on a t-shirt.

[@couch_philosoph3325]

Oh this is serving. I love main characters being called out on their shit. Where have these kind of teen movies been all my childhood? All we had was troy crying over choosing between singing and basketball while being the starlet for the two, having two girls madly in love with him and the whole school loving him as well

[@-_melloh.ello_-3650]

"Whatever happened to Asian solidarity bitch" I swear to god, this is better than the movie🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@TheWipal]

the salad scene is the embodiment of artists presenting their fictional content and 12 year olds jumping to conclusions 🤠

[@withcindy]

NOOOO WHY ARE U RIGHT

[@TheWipal]

@@withcindy 🤝😔😔🖌

[@fishythefish7984]

Lmaoo and what did she even mean by the salad comment?? What did she evn say what was she getting at 🤡🤠?

[@TheWipal]

@@fishythefish7984 😐

[@fishythefish7984]

@@TheWipal what? I'm asking about what the character said bc I didn't understand

[@shawnyang435]

Wow, those Chinese lines almost have no accent... that’s so rare in American movies...

[@mazelbagle321]

"I think you would make a great addition to the KKK" I AM DEAD- 💀🤚🤚🤚

[@kylovesart]

Sent me into mother fucking orbit

[@julyen3286]

Cindy trying to explain that she isn't crying and just "almost tearing up" hahahaha im just---- same here cindy

[@withcindy]

IM NOT QUITE THERE

[@dorothymason9143]

I usually hate movie commentary but when she talks it makes it ten times funnier

[@withcindy]

aw thanks!

[@jkolade9362]

"Perhaps the youth will pave the way in ways that I could not" - The Millennial Manifesto

[@withcindy]

😭😭😭

[@genevieveperry4971]

"Hey mom, what did you care about when you were 16?" Movie mom: "Smashing the Patriarchy!" My mam: "I cared about finishing school and not being married off over a bottle of whiskey @.@" Me: "All I wanted was to read books and climb trees and pretend there were fairies in the old fort in the field. Also wtf was Ireland in the 70's?!?"

[@purplecatloverrandompizza]

Me: theatre. Also you know band and choir too, you know just all of the performing arts in general

[@thisistheaccountname]

5:45 is the reality of it. I was bullied in 15 different schools even one that was a collegiate high school. My nephew was pulled out elementary school because the school and school board would do nothing about the children bullying him. While different than the harassment she's facing, I feel her pain being ignored by the schools and authority figures who are supposed to be there to help us. I really wish something would change, but it just stays the same and the cycle continues.

[@withcindy]

im so sorry :(

[@musicalnerds101]

I’m sorry that happened to you. That must really be hurtful 😔

[@thisistheaccountname]

@@musicalnerds101 honestly I was very forgetful in my youth and I even remember some times I would be doing something and would suddenly be aware of it and having no idea about the events that led up to it. I think all I cared about was being home with my dogs and writing so that was where all my thoughts were. Even when it got to the point of police, courts, and restraining orders I could honestly not recall what happened in the event that led up to it. I would tolerate the bullying and with one exception of a fight on a bus that had a camera on it and I saw the bus driver look back at us and she did nothing about it, I never let them see it was getting with me mostly because it didn't get to me. I would think of how pathetic and ridiculous the bullies were and that I had too much I wanted to get done and that was where my attention was and I didn't have time for them. They never mattered to me. I think it was in middle school where I gave up talking to "adults", about it I was in the generations that was fading out "if someone hits you, hit them back", and "tell an adult", so I tried both to no avail.

[@kennafoster2483]

"its my heart. You want it?" my child seth is smooth as heck

[@withcindy]

soooo smoothhhh

[@rachel2699]

Cindy used that gif reaction properly twice. It was accurate because I was shock by nobody letting this white girl breathe either.