The Awful Truth of Homelander

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The Boys has been Amazon's biggest hit show, thanks in no small part to Antony Starrr's performance as the evil Superman-like, Homelander. In this video I try to take a look at the leader of The Seven and what makes him such a compelling and scary character.
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[@captainmidnight]

What's your favorite scene in The Boys? Get Nebula and CuriosityStream for less than $15 a year: curiositystream.com/captainmidnight

[@daddylonglegs8712]

The season 2 finale. I think the reason the "Girls Get It Done" moment works so well is because it's a classic example of great setup and payoff. At first it's just a slogan Vought is using to play off of the current culture's fixation with inclusivity and feminism. And then all of these women who aren't necessarily strong enough to take down Stormfront on their own work together to beat her. As opposed to Avengers: Endgame where we have a big girl power moment but it's forced because it doesn't make sense for the story. Captain Marvel is arguably the most powerful superhero in that movie and doesn't need any help getting through Thanos' army. All they had to do was give the gauntlet to a less powerful character and that scene actually works a lot better. But here in The Boys all the pieces fall into place for an epic moment that's really satisfying.

[@thabreez456]

The damn airplane scene

[@marcd2726]

I think that wreckage floated to shore, not that it was near shore

[@jaysmith3173]

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[@donaldpetersen2382]

When Homelander imagined destroying that crowd. He and his kid could possibly do that at any moment. Just one more reason to stan Butcher.

[@andyhoov]

I love how you frequently get the impression Homelander would murder every last person on the planet were it not for the fact he also desperately wants their adoration.

[@wesleywallace4426]

@JLingz Biggest Fan Yeah that scene was eye opening. I thought Homelander would go ballistic but him fighting the very thing that once brought him joy caused him even more pain than him being made fun of.

[@leoseminara]

That is literally what the end of the last episode is about

[@shoazdon7000]

This is what people don’t get though, at the moment he’s an emotional wreck and he gets disrespected all the time. But once he goes mad and he no longer cares then what do you think is going to happen. They keep saying it in the show ‘don’t push him over the edge’ because they know once he goes it’s fucked for everyone

[@acrsclspdrcls1365]

Like the Greek gods of yore, can't live with them can't live without them.

[@ramdharisinghdinkar1069]

That is the literal definition of abrahmic concept of god

[@omalleycaboose5937]

Homeland is an example of why it's good Clark landed on a Farm.

[@BenHopkins1000]

Ever read Superman: Red Son?

[@xxopxxfan54]

Well kind of, the hardwork on the farm combined with his great parents is why its Clark turned out good

[@anubusx]

Brightburn as well.

[@ryanblake3135]

what's good about it is that it was those who taught empathy and compassion.

[@ChangeOtaku]

@@anubusx i wouldn't use Brightburn as an example because the boy (i dont remember his name) was a good kid, he just suffered a brainwash one night and turned bad (sorry if i wrote something wrong, english isnt my native language)

[@bartlegoof5949]

i actually really like how lackluster the fights are in the show, it really emphasizes that almost none of these superheroes know how to actually fight, they’ve never had to before since most of what they fight are average people without any superpowers, they are celebrities, not fighters

[@helldronez]

on point

[@MetalCharlo]

Except Black Noir, dude's a badass.

[@loganfox946]

@@MetalCharlo fr

[@andreshurtado2496]

@@MetalCharlo was*

[@choccymilk9983]

and then on season 3 when everyone got powers we finally have some real fight scenes, it's just so poetic man

[@TheFroBro11]

I used to think that Homelander’s padded muscle suit looked goofy. I realized that the muscles are probably fake in the boys universe too, designed by Vaught to make him more marketable. He’s never had to train or exert himself in any way.

[@KallusGarnet]

Why would he train and who would he train with?

[@gracida6]

@@KallusGarnet with your mom

[@Charagrin]

Why would the muscles be fake? They literally edited Homelanders genes. They can make him jacked. They can make him 7'9. They can give him a 3 inch dick. They can give him a 3 foot dick.

[@davisnicholas9123]

What would he lift???

[@theycallmedoorway9913]

@@davisnicholas9123 The moon, I guess

[@thabreez456]

Superman Was a Alien Who was Humanized through the kindness of John and Martha Kent. Homelander is A Human who was Alienized by greedy corporations.

[@starkkprimera2471]

Wow spot on excellent observation

[@Etticos.]

Martha? WHY DID YOU SAY THAT NAME?!

[@mariano98ify]

@cosmic edits more like Amazon

[@crowwithknifecawcaw]

great observation, but also i can't help but get r/im14andthisisdeep vibes from this comment lmao. All jokes though

[@niohnn7402]

If he was raised by the ussr the world would be in ashes literally

[@austinmcminn719]

Homelander is the actual embodiment of what Tony Stark said in the first avengers "everything special about you came out of a bottle."

[@keepinmahprivacy9754]

Yeah, except Stark was wrong when he said that about Rogers, but he would have been right to say it about Homelander. First Avenger actually did a good job of showing why Rogers was different. He didn't become a bully because he had been on the other end of bullying so he had empathy. Homelander has had everyone afraid of him since he was an infant, so he has no empathy.

[@MasterOrona]

@@keepinmahprivacy9754 I would argue that Stark was referring to his physical abilities which sort of is what made him special at that point in the MCU. Yes he was a good man, was selfless etc but he wasn’t one in a billion. Not until the serum that truly set him in a different league than anyone else on at the time. I would hope that Steve’s personality and proclivities would be much more common that his physical strength.

[@SickMuseMT]

a bottle of breast milk, in fact.

[@nahor88]

I feel like the show has itself caught in a hard place with how powerful they made Homelander... Superman is that powerful, but he fights villains just as powerful as him like Darkseid and Doomsday. Either they'll have to introduce someone as powerful as him, or the Boys find a way to nerf or take away his powers, like a kryptonite. Like for real... Maeve, Kimiko and Starlight kick and punch Stormfront a bajillion times, and she has a bruised face and bloody nose. One strike from Homelander's son's heat vision demolishes her.

[@keepinmahprivacy9754]

@@nahor88 Homelander already has shown a serious weakness though: he's an emotional cripple. You don't even need superpowers to defeat someone if you know how to crush them emotionally.

[@kevinwheesysouthward9295]

Homelander is terrifying. Every time he’s on screen, I get a feeling like I just bumped into a small table with a vase on it and it’s just about to fall

[@dohadeer8242]

Homelander is a wonderfully acted classic, textbook portrayal of a psychopathic personality and the superpowers are really incidental to that portrayal. The depth of it is in the lack of empathy toward others and the overwhelming sense of superiority (stretched like a mask over his true sense of inadequacy) that Homelander's uses to justify any of his actions to himself. Homelander also serves to illustrate the rationale for creators that all of the best heroes come from a place of profound loss or emotional suffering. Superman lost his world and then his second father and that is partly what drives him to fiercely protect what he does still have. He also lives as a human, amongst humans which further serves to connect him to the world. Homelander lacks any emotional anchor or reason to connect to the world. The interesting question for me is "was HL born a psychopath, or was he made into one by the lack of emotional connections in his upbringing?"

[@projekttaku1]

@@dohadeer8242 probably a mix of both. We see that he may have inherited some traits from soldier boy, his father, but his childhood conditions certainly didn't help. I think that putting him with a family similar to a-trains, like a normal brother who could show him to value of human life, would actually make him a pretty good guy, since we see that went a-train overcame his ego and need to be the fastest (which homelander wouldn't have since he's already the best superhero) he was a good dude.

[@quatorise]

Really good analogy. Couldn’t describe my feelings any better man.

[@Satan-pb7kv]

@@dohadeer8242 A majority of this description better suits that of a sociopath as opposed to a psychopath. The determining factor would be what the resolution to the question at the end of your comment is. If his sadistic behavior is resultant from his environment, then it’s definitely sociopathy.

[@mikepitts8470]

Awesome analogy

[@inferno0020]

the Boys is not about superheroes, but about the media industries that sold heroic images. I am glad that everyone in the show has done a good job

[@lonemotheomatshaba9640]

To me it always felt like it was satirising celebrity culture in how nowadays we see people buying and consuming so much media from celebrities putting them on pedestals when they aren't that deserving of any of that attention

[@Blue-Apple-fc9eo]

@@lonemotheomatshaba9640 Like mrbeast for example.

[@karrguerrero2019]

I love this show because is a criticism to politics, celebrities, social media, army, capitalism, the privatization of everything, immigration, war, manipulation of masses due to companies and fake news, is brilliant

[@immortal_shrooms6757]

@@Blue-Apple-fc9eo though gotta give him some credit for that foodbank he's running

[@Blue-Apple-fc9eo]

@@immortal_shrooms6757 I don't know man he makes a fundraiser about saving the ocean which is very impossible and very unlikely so it's pretty much a scam, And be shills for crypto which is NFTs and waste electricity and it can harm the environment.

[@thel1355]

I love how Homelander just uses his laser eyes all the time. It’s just so lazy.

[@margarethmichelina5146]

That's why he didn't want to help the passengers in the airplane.

[@xXSamir44Xx]

It's lazy and it keeps him from having to explain why he's covered in blood everytime he does something "heroic".

[@shaggytheshagger3375]

i noticed it too lmao, he uses it like a gun

[@nothingbutintroverted4372]

i mean anyone would use that more than anything else lmao

[@linasayshush]

And it's especially interesting when you compare it to how little Superman uses it. He uses it mostly to like, shave his beard. Homelander uses it every single time.

[@vsf_dave811]

That scene with the Daredevil type hero getting his ears clapped made my skin crawl. It was so brutal

[@WebbedManiac]

Well there's a reason that Daredevil doesn't go around telling people that he's blind.

[@celtytompkins5294]

Ya, gore and violence never bother me in movies or TV, but that scene made my stomach turn.

[@joshjohnson2753]

@@celtytompkins5294 I'm honestly not sure if he did or didn't flat out kill the guy, there was a ton of blood and the guy went from screaming to quiet. Gave me the impression he died from the injuries...

[@SquashGuy02134]

@@joshjohnson2753 with that much blood it means the skull is cracked and the brain is hemorrhaging. If he's alive he's a vegetable now.

[@joshjohnson2753]

@@SquashGuy02134 100%. I like that they kept it vague but yeah, he's definitely finished one way or another.

[@davidnsiyona1307]

6:00 Yep, he just didn't want to save them. When Maeve suggested flying each passenger, he was like "fly back here 123 times?" with the impression of "am not doing all that" 😂

[@HiDDENk00l]

The plans would've actually fallen too fast to fly back 100+ times, but he probably could've slowed the plane down enough to put it down on the water without the crash being (too) fatal.

[@SpecialProjectY]

They were located 1/3 across Atlantic, if he tried to take a few at a time none would survive speed, they're not as durable as V heads. All wouldn't survive the whiplash or air drag. The plane is a fragile aluminum can, held together by spider web structure full of holes to achieve integrity and less mass possible for fuel efficiency. There's no single point on any aeroplane that might be a safe place to "hold", you need multiple places with right support to achieve that and still need safe speed. If Homelander attempt to do that, he would go like a hot knife through butter.

[@davidnsiyona1307]

@@SpecialProjectY Analogies okay for saving everyone, or trying and failing. And that's the issue, he didn't try to save anyone or everyone. He valued convenience over lives

[@charlie-obrien]

@@SpecialProjectY A plane....any plane can be supported by the structure that the landing gear is built into, even under stress, otherwise no plane could ever land. With Homelander you have to always consider the psychological aspect and his deep feelings of inferiority. Physically he may have well been able to lift and carry the plane to safety...BUT, he wasn't sure if he could and therefore did not want to attempt it and possibly fail in front of Maeve. He is a messed up kook and for sure most of his shortcomings are self imposed, but in reality he might not really have any limitations. And yes I write this after having watched him battle Soldier Boy and Butcher, both of whom he is afraid of.

[@davidnsiyona1307]

@@roachybill that's the point we are making. We aren't looking at how it's supposed to be (less grim or anything), we are looking at who he is. I watched the scene and I was like "damn, that's bold". He's not moved by trying to appease anyone and to me, I like that. The series already asserted that these aren't the Marvel/DC heroes we are used to, let alone heroes even 😂

[@Gensolink]

I like how someone describe Homelander as having a "genocide resting face" because that describe how.... unsettling that character is. I was constantly on edge when he was on screen and that face didnt help

[@thabreez456]

Antony star did Such a good job as homelander that i cant believe he was an obscure actor before this.

[@carlitopowe4105]

Obscure? He was in banshee, I knew of him more than most aside Karl urban from the show. Almost everyone but Karl is obscure.

[@thabreez456]

Yeah I didnt know about banshee and starr till this show and holy shit he killed it. Can't believe I hadn't seen him before.

[@definitelylewis7507]

Hell I think he still kind of is.

[@jsgoudy]

Get that man a fucking Emmy

[@peteoconnor3536]

Bro u comment this exact same thing on every video lmao

[@tomlawal7991]

It’s so sad Antony Starr ain’t even that famous. I never knew him till The Boys; his skill is worth more fame. Like , his facial expressions alone convey what is in his head at any given moment. Too talented

[@anubusx]

I have a feeling his career is about to take off.

[@pureblackfire511]

he starred in a show called Banshee from the creators of true blood. it was amazing.

[@vincevvn]

He’s name is AnTony

[@Milkra]

Before the boys I only knew Antony Starr from the one Brockhampton lyric

[@mayankbawari]

Banshee

[@wjmoore17]

One of the big complaints I hear is about how "bad" the fight choreography is. I think that's wholly intentional. They aren't trained martial artists or Jedi Masters, they're movie actors who happen to be invincible. The fights are gonna look awful because they're actually awful heroes. Black Noir is an exception, but he always looks super swift when he fights, but that's his whole shtick.

[@rolletroll2338]

This is on point because they are disappointing in every way possible. They are not even entertaining to watch when they fight, and this gave me the feeling that they would be destroyed by their original counterpart, so there is absolutely nothing heroic associated with them.

[@RedfishCarolina]

That whole milk fetish thing is one of the most unsettling thing about him. It really shows that this man has some profound developmental issues. You can tell shit went really wrong as he grew up. And yes, Antony Starr really does this perfectly.

[@mrcat3493]

Season 2’s conversation with Vogelbaum reveals that Homelander was pretty much tortured as a kid. Diabolical episode 7 explored that a little further too.

[@lauracerqueiramachado8979]

Actually I watched a video analyzing the symbolism of food in cinematography, and it said that making a bad guy drink milk is actually something done very often (just like making a villain like classical music or have a cat) you can also see that in Alex from “A Clockwork Orange” and Anton from “No Country for Old Men”, the thing is milk represents innocence and purity because it’s the first food we have in life and seeing someone wicked drinking it instantly feels unsettling

[@Marenks]

I LOVE that the supes sucks at their job. I mean look at black noir. He looks like a Batman but when he's trying to kill Butcher He failed miserably to be stealthy and he set off every fricking trap in the house while searching for the boys. He's a terrible ninja but he has super power so he doesn't need to really try.

[@Sinewmire]

Or when he's just like.... obviously on a roof over the street. Is it stealthy? Not even a little.

[@vanflyheight8487]

I think black noir is supposed to be like batman but also a bit like juggernaut where nothing stops him which is why I think he chose to walk through the traps , just to show that they didn't do shit

[@bobjim4126]

They are trained in PR, not in being superheroes XD

[@chuckhoyle1211]

A good analogy to this is that there is a kid in my youngest son's grade that is a phenomenal athlete and is probably at least 3 years older than what his birth certificate says due to the shoddy recordkeeping of his native country. I mean he was over 6 feet tall and could dunk in 7th grade. You can tell that he does not try a lot during games because if he did he would just humiliate the other team and he is a nice kid so he does not want to do that. The 7are just like that. They win without trying. There are no challenges for them other than retaining their humanity. Notice how the more powerful the supe, the more detached they are from society. Homelander is a sociopath who has zero ability to connect with normal people and can barely connect with other supes because everyone is beneath him. Queen Mave is one of the more flawed supes (she can't fly, she can't shoot lasers from her eyes) along with A-Train (he is just fast as near as I can tell) and they are the most human of them.

[@jabinnicholas7163]

He can be extremely sneaky if he wants I actually think he might be the one competent supe

[@mikemorgan6685]

if captainmidnight existed in the boys universe, this video would be "Homelander: A Weird Career"

[@BenHopkins1000]

And, knowing Homie, it’d probably be his last...

[@ignoremymundanelife7511]

Homelander is easily triggered by memes... I can't imagine what he'd do seeing a video analysis of his flaws 💀💀

[@nont18411]

And got lasered immediately after that

[@DirectorsChoice]

Homelander: A certified forklift operator

[@yumemilee]

BAHAHAHA

[@sirunfunnyiv7600]

I think one of my favorite scenes in the show was Homelander's scene with Doppelganger (when he was imitating Homelander). Unaware of how to appeal to Homelander in his Madelyn Stillwell form, Doppelganger transforms into Homelander himself and begins to talk about how hot, powerful, and strong Homelander is. He even offers to suck him off. Homelander looks at Doppelganger and says "you're pathetic", and then crushes his windpipe. Doppelganger was trying to convince Homelander of his awesomeness and beauty and how much everyone loves him, but Homelander can see through his disguise and sees himself as the pathetic and weak hero who has nothing and no one, and that concept enrages him. Just beautiful writing, if you ask me.

[@itachi2816]

Bro, I kept trying to understand what that scene meant, but now you've finally shown me something that made tjat moment make sense to me. And honestly, it was pretty dumb of me to not realize it, thank you.

[@tiedredstrings2286]

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[@sirunfunnyiv7600]

@@tiedredstrings2286 good point

[@kyransawhill6650]

Not sure if you've seen all of Season 3 yet, but there is a very similar scene involving Soldier Boy that gives insight into how he views himself.

[@bud856]

I thought of that scene as him being offended by the imitation. As if to say don't ever attempt to replicate his greatness because of cocky he is

[@PhilippeCarphin]

Antony Starr plays the part so well. In pretty much every scene, without him speaking you can see Homelander's inner struggle and insecurities in his eyes and facial expressions. I found the way he uses his face to convey emotions to be some of the best "face acting" I've ever seen.

[@Iliadic]

Starr definitely needs to be Eobard Thawne in Gunn's DCLAU

[@tackyoptic]

The scene that sold Homelander for me was when he imagined himself straight-up massacreing an entire crowd just because they _booed_ at him. Holy. _FUCK._

[@KicksPregnantWomen]

what you never imagined killing someone?

[@PetteriWar]

@@KicksPregnantWomen yeah weird.

[@ottolotto7057]

@@KicksPregnantWomen nah you tweakin

[@tommyoberle4823]

@@ottolotto7057 everybody has, but in subconscious. Usually only in the heat of the moment and when that moment is over you rethink that claim, and remember that you don't want them to die.

[@osmanyousif7849]

Sounds like something Titan from Megamind would do.

[@densityboy]

There's a really cool theory that the obviously fake muscle suit is actually a part of the whole Voight PR image of what a hero should look like. In reality, Homelander is far too strong to actually build any muscle mass, and since he is so strong there's no point in expending the effort to do so. So he just wears a padded suit to look like it.

[@beejj6190]

Quaint, but no.. and i.e. not represented in the comics (as would give credence to the theory). Starr is slim and needed to look like a God-like superhero by the shows producers. Simple. #theorydebunked.

[@densityboy]

@@beejj6190 I mean, cool, but that's kinda irrelevant innit? You know the comics and show are separate stories right? If you read the comics you'd know its not a direct adaptation and there are a number of significant changes from the source material.

[@Gamerz2Gamerz]

Idk what value this would add to the story tho? I mean we can see when he’s with doppelgänger that he’s pretty big, interesting theory but I don’t think it holds up.

[@beejj6190]

@@densityboy Er, what's with the bringing up other examples? Thinking farrr too hard, mate. Stay focused on my specific answer and understand the reality of the *show producers'* choice, lol.

[@densityboy]

@@beejj6190 what examples? Did you mean to reply to someone else?

[@ultimategamer2669]

Blindspot: **works hard to became a super hero** Homelander: And I took that personally.

[@Minptahhathor]

😂😂😂😂

[@througheverything]

It’s so clever to have Homelander be so insecure. It’s literally the only thing that keeps the tension in scenes that he shares with other characters, you don’t know if he’ll kill them because it could affect his public perception.

[@scalpingsnake]

People defending Homelander when he didn't save the people on the plane is weird; it wasn't about whether or not he could it was the fact that he obviously didn't care nor did he even try. For contrast I point you to the Spider man train scene *drops mic* .

[@KevinACarroll1996]

Personally I don't think he could have done it because he had never exerted himself as much as he would have to for that, he made a good point about making a hole in the plane rather than supporting it, and after all of that, it's only a possibility that it would work and if he failed everyone would see him failing to save those people. In the end, he probably realized he didn't have much of a chance saving the people and spinning it as "If only we got there in time" is more useful to him than maybe saving a plane of people. I'm not defending his character, just the idea that he couldn't have saved the people. But I haven't seen the discussions on the topic so I have no idea.

[@spacemarinechaplain9367]

@@jaysmith3173 What does this have to do with Homelander or the Boys?

[@scalpingsnake]

​@@KevinACarroll1996 We could discuss for hours whether or not it was possible to save them but again that isn't the point. I don't know if scientifically it was possible to save them but it doesn't matter; not only did he not care or try he also was the one who destroyed the planes controls causing the crash anyway which was his plan all along because he wanted to use the crash as a way to get supes into the military. I think the writers believed he could have saved them but for the reasons I mentioned, didn't.

[@KevinACarroll1996]

@@scalpingsnake Like I said, I wasn't defending his character, he absolutely should have tried to save them (also shouldn't have destroyed the cockpit in the process). I was just arguing that he may have had a point when he said he couldn't save the people. But what do you mean the crash was his plan all along? His plan was to save the plane and receive praise, but hen he realized he couldn't save it he came up with a different plan to use it to get supes into the military.

[@scalpingsnake]

@@KevinACarroll1996 Ok sorry just had the clarify. So the impression I got was he pretended to go and save the plane without any intention to do so but instead let it crash to get supes into the military, it was Madelyn who wanted them to save the plane thinking that would get the bill passed. I mean it isn't that surprising is it? That he wouldn't want to save the people. With him not really trying and destroying the controls it does seem like he meant to do it. I don't think he says it was always his intention but there was nothing saying otherwise either.

[@SithLadyDarhVamp]

What's most terrifying about Homelander, is that he is a human acting on his impulses. He's mistreated, raised as a weapon and manufactured to fit an image that he can't live up to. He has all these powers, but is so extremely fragile emotionally and mentally, and so unbalanced. He is not redeemable, but it's easy to see how he turned out the way he did. He's immature, petty, and unhinged. A man with all these physical strengths, without the emotional compassion necessary to balance them out. I love him as a villain, but he's frightening if you ever picture a yourself living in a reality where a superhuman with his abilities and childishness exists.

[@wafflingmean4477]

The most crucial part about Homelander is that mentally he's 100% human. We are just as capable of inflicting the pain and annihilation that Homelander can. He just has an easier time of it with his powers. But what if someone with as fragile a mental state had their finger on a nuke button? Oh wait, that is literally the world we live in right now.

[@SithLadyDarhVamp]

@@wafflingmean4477 100% agreed.

[@arx3516]

Imagine someone with the same psychological characteristics as Homelander, but instead of having superpower he is just a dictator with the whole military of his country at his service.

[@greigpil9835]

"he's frightening if you ever picture a yourself living in a reality where a superhuman with his abilities and childishness exists" Like absurd inherited wealth and hands all over political policy levers with no democratic mandate? We very much live in that reality.

[@speeddemonji9547]

@@wafflingmean4477 damn. Didn’t realize homelander was mentally human.

[@jakeshultz2820]

The most spine chilling part for me is in S3 when he forces the woman to jump off the building because it's one of the first times where he doesn't just do something evil because he feels threatened or betrayed or otherwise necessary. He does it simply because he could and got joy from it and it really shows how much he's losing control of himself.

[@jameslough6329]

Yeah, that scene legitimately chills me to the bone every time I watch it. Homelander is horrifying

[@simon-peterwilliamson2412]

I love the fact that instead of a big climatic battle against stormfront. The girls just surround her and kick the shit out of her like a gang initiation

[@artemis5210]

It was my favorite scene!

[@mr.j3rs3y]

That scene was hilarious and very cathartic, they were beating the absolute shit out of her Nazi ass XD

[@TomNunan1]

My absolute favourite scene from The Boys is when Black Noir learns about Compound V, and that he was made from a drug. We see this figure, arguably more emotionless, unfeeling and cold than even Homelander or Stormfront, and we see him sitting on the ground crying. That is so far the most powerful scene, brings soooooo much character and depth to Noir, shows us that even he just had his whole world shattered and it's killing him.

[@nvr2late666]

What if he was actually laughing?

[@TomNunan1]

@@nvr2late666 nah I rewatched it to check and it’s pretty clear he’s crying

[@Tobacc0]

I thought the best scene was when he tried to calm a child by play acting with his teddy bear while holding a victim's head in his other hand.

[@dankerbell]

@@nvr2late666 the subtitles say he's crying

[@beardieboi420productions]

@@dankerbell lmao

[@KoolKeithProductions]

*Never forget...* "You guys are the real heroes"

[@Kintaku]

My thought about the plane was that Homelander wasn’t well trained. I took him at his word about the plane not because I thought he was physically unable to but because he wasn’t conditioned to think of a way to do it. The bigger issue to me was that he didn’t even try. And that was just him being lazy.

[@gregjayonnaise8314]

Yeah, I still feel like, if he really tried to, he could have saved SOME of the people onboard, like flying them out of the plane before it crashes. Or at least take the kids with him and Maeve before it crashed. If he’d done even that, even if he failed, people would have still commended him for trying. But he didn’t because, plainly put, he didn’t give a fuck.

[@hushonlow7653]

Scientifically speaking... alot of force onto a small surface... is not ideal. But then again there's alot of unrealistic things happening in the movie so anything is possible

[@Kintaku]

@@hushonlow7653 I mean you have a point. It could possibly have led to the plane collapsing at the point he was holding. I just think the moment says more about his character than it does about his intelligence

[@charlie-obrien]

A plane....any plane can be supported by the structure that the landing gear is built into, even under stress, otherwise no plane could ever land. With Homelander you have to always consider the psychological aspect and his deep feelings of inferiority. Physically he may have well been able to lift and carry the plane to safety...BUT, he wasn't sure if he could and therefore did not want to attempt it and possibly fail in front of Maeve. He is a messed up kook and for sure most of his shortcomings are self imposed, but in reality he might not really have any limitations. And yes I write this after having watched him battle Soldier Boy and Butcher, both of whom he is afraid of.

[@Kintaku]

@@charlie-obrien I still haven’t watched the latest season. But I think this perspective (fear of failure) is probably right.

[@lonemotheomatshaba9640]

To me it always felt like The Boys was satirising celebrity culture in how nowadays we see people buying and consuming so much media from celebrities, putting them on pedestals when they aren't that deserving of any of that attention and homelander is the perfect example of that

[@igustibagusananda7706]

Yeap pretty much

[@demedooley9235]

I know this has been stated endlessly, but Antony Starr deserves an Emmy for his menacing portrayal of Homelander. That sinister smile makes me piss myself

[@thanasispiliotis72]

he would be a good reverse flash

[@demedooley9235]

@@thanasispiliotis72 I agree 👍

[@L3ON360Z]

Is there any other competition for the Emmy this year?

[@thewriteinpresident]

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We Are Revelation… We do not Forgive… WE DO NOT COMPLY… Game Over~ videos.utahgunexchange.com/watch/7-grandes-diferencias-entre-los-spetsnaz-alfa-vympel-y-gru_unIs3Mhp989qDUn.html The Sentinel… From now on` when YOU don’t like what the TV talking Heads say……..., You State it out Loud with Intention, and YOU just say to that 2D-HD 3D-CGI {trick or treat} +=+ [Holographix] Virtual Reality SCREEN: I DO NOT BELIEVE YOU!!! and speak it with “intention” of Your Soul, Your Person, and Your Spirits when you do not like them doing “Malfeasance” on their TV Screens to Their Printed Media: I Do Not Believe In You…, I do not believe in you….., and one last time too seal the deal: No matter what you once trusted “as information” now as one of we the (nonmason) of this world: I DO NOT BELIEVE IN YOU FREE MASON!!!! Once you are free from Their THEY LIVE “Masonic” TV mind control, then live out your days here in Purgatory as best you can my nonmason person… Mathew 28 - John 13:34 - 1st Corinthians 13 The Commander~ [///|||\\\] +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

[@quantumvideoscz2052]

@@thewriteinpresident Would you please be so kind to explain how does a giant comment quoting the Bible mixed with your own ideology and trying to say it's from Mathew 28, even though you talk about TV, help anyone in this comment section? Or how is it even remotly related to Homelander and this video?

[@elenastoian2179]

About the plane, didn't Maeve suggested he fly everyone one at a time to safety, and Homelander commented: "what and do that 120 times?" I seem to remember that for some reason.

[@tc2241]

Especially saying that it was impossible without killing someone and that the few they could save would only sell them out, that they were in a lose lose.

[@victorhugorodriguez773]

Yeah i think he cant do ir perfect like the People want, and spect

[@claudewinters2091]

Well all he had to do was control his laser eyes from the beginning and he wouldn't have had a problem... But since he was too lazy to care, those ppl had no chance of survival

[@TheMrawesomest]

Yeah, he might be able to carry the airplane and "land" it, but the people inside may not all survive. Flying them two at a time would also leave some to die. He can't fly as fast when he is carrying "normies" as acceleration would kill them. He is a living representation of corporate thinking.

[@rafaelalodio5116]

Maybe he couldn't save everyone, but he definitely could have saved some, he didn't tried he didn't cared.

[@cybertramon0012]

What I've always found interesting with Homelander is that the potential to be a real hero is there. You can see a better side of him from time to time, even if it's just an act. The human side, as you put it. The tragedy of Homelander is that if he had a real family raise him rather than being treated like a product from the beginning, he could've been everything he pretends to be.

[@myMelody4life]

Homelander: "I am the greatest superhero in the world." Vogelbaum: "You are my greatest failure." I loved this line and I absolutely loved how Dr. Vogelbaum is the only non-supe who shows no fear of Homelander. Even Stillwell seemed to show fear of Homelander from time to time and then finally admitted that she was afraid of him at the end of season 1. Yet when Homelander comes to talk to Dr. Vogelbaum about Becca, he first tries to ease his way into a conversation by starting with small talk and Vogelbaum immediately cuts through it and says, "You're here about Becca Butcher" and he even called Homelander "John", showing that he's the only one who truly knows who Homelander is. He's not even afraid to lie to Homelander. Yet even though he is later paralyzed by Homelander, I always thought their interactions were incredibly well done.

[@jacobunofficial1146]

Butcher wants to talk

[@unclehaver7006]

Both butcher and Edgar show no fear when they speak to Homelander

[@Nash-]

@ZAP GAMERZ I think there's a difference there, Edgar isn't scared because he has power over Homelander, while Vogelbaum isn't scared because he knows him

[@thegodssin3631]

I hate Vogelbaum

[@celestial1924]

@@Nash- Edgar doesn’t really have power over homelander, he did before, but after Homelander took over Vought, Edgar still didn’t give a shit about Homelander, and asked him why he was looking for his approval like he was his daddy lmfao, Vogelbaum, Butcher, and Edgar are the only ones who don’t fear Homelander imo

[@alisinchains]

IHE described Homelander as "Onision with superpowers".

[@Snaoe]

Where did he talk about it?

[@alisinchains]

@@Snaoe his I hate superheroes 2019 video

[@Snaoe]

@@alisinchains Thank you friend.

[@JohnSmith-op3qj]

Now that's just slander. Homelander is at least sort of likeable.

[@grasstastesbad5391]

i did always see onision as a greek god

[@henrygrace138]

Fun fact: Antony starr intentionally makes his voice abit raspy whenever he lands on the floor, this is because the altitude would make his voice box wierd, Antony Starr is truly one of the greatest actors to EVER exist

[@benscones9529]

I was unaware that that would happen, and it's even crazier that he does that despite most people like me not even knowing. The nuance he can put into his voice in all his scenes is just so enjoyable to watch.

[@M00nSlippers]

I find it especially incredible considering he's not even using his native accent.

[@henrygrace138]

@@M00nSlippers I did not know that, what is his native accent?

[@benscones9529]

@@henrygrace138 He's from New Zealand

[@henrygrace138]

@@benscones9529 seriously, I was not expecting that, his American accent is really good

[@BuildinWings]

The kid they got to play Homelander's son in S02 did an amazing job. All the layers of that character require talent to pull off, and he did it at a young age. He even avoided that pitfall teenage actors get into, where they want to play much older. Such a good show.

[@timonr2537]

One the things I loved about the show was how whilst watching it I forgot that Homelander was based on superman, that’s how well the characters are written . I never saw homelander as an evil superman.

[@RunnerX13]

I wouldn’t agree that Homelander “gets on board” with Stormfront’s Nazi ideology. Every time she starts spouting more racists and Nazi stuff he looks at her cross eyed and is like, wtf are you talking about.

[@MsLouisez]

I agree. I think he likes her for multiple reasons: - she is violent and unforgiving like him, they use that together - she was able to assist increase his likeability (memes) - mother figure He doesn't like her cause she is a Nazi, and when he noticed her antics he looks at her weirdly and then carelessly disregards.

[@Cloudy_Games_99]

Exactly

[@sryan9547]

Stormfront is racist, which implies that she actually does care for white people. Homelander doesn't care about anyone, he considers them below him. He liked Stormfront for other reasons and just went along with the Nazi stuff because Stormfront said she would make him a real god.

[@silverwhistle247]

Homelander is no racist, he looks down on all human

[@sharilshahed6106]

@@silverwhistle247 or supes that are not him.

[@kameronroberts1064]

The big thing in the comics was that the only characters that are trained in fighting are The Boys. The heros are pretty unskilled in combat because they never have to actually fight anyone. So yeah it just makes sense that they’d fight without any major choreography, like how regular unskilled people would fight. Unlike a series like Arrow, if I saw the characters fighting without any real choreography Id be confused, based on how much training some of those characters go through.

[@iamsamsamiam1121]

That's not really an excuse for bad choreography though... Like, you can have a fight between to unskilled people still look really cool. The fight between Butcher and Translucent was amazing despite there not being many flashy moves from either of them.

[@kameronroberts1064]

@@iamsamsamiam1121 I never said it was an excuse, it just make sense contextually within the series lmao. Butcher is CIA, or atleast ex CIA, it makes sense for him to know how to fight lmao. Again thats another example of a character being able to fight because they had training.

[@thekrakensdaughter]

@Casanova Frankenstein really? lol

[@solthegamer3769]

@@kameronroberts1064 He worked with the CIA under Mallory, but he was ex-SAS

[@ttv_mrjack6749]

@Dr.'sorders Yee stormfront was just some dudes wife that got super powers and was a nazi, kimiko was a kidnapped Japanese girl etc. None really know or ever needed martial arts.

[@DogInATaco]

I think the fact that every time heroes fight and it feels like it always devolves into a street fight is a good thing. It feels almost intentional. These people are celebrities first. They find out they have powers and are immediately put in front of a camera for the world to see. And that's what they're trained for. They're never actually trained to use their powers to their fullest abilities or even taught how to fight at the most basic level. They're so strong compared to normal people that they don't really need to be trained. But when we see them fight each other, we start to understand that they really have no clue what they're doing. Outside of a couple moves at the start, almost every fight just ends with the heroes beating the shit out of each other. Because at a fundamental level, that's all they know how to do.

[@patrickellison2939]

You are spot on about Homelander. It's his hints of mental fragility that makes him terrifying, because you know it doesn't take a great deal of pressure to switch him into full-on rage-mode.

[@TheRealGuywithoutaMustache]

We riot if Anthony Starr doesn't get an award for his performance as Homelander

[@bdachhakchhuak]

Oh my, hey lol

[@alessandrocoatti5186]

That would require greedy corporations to somewhat acknowledge how bad greedy corporations are

[@moonlight4665]

@@alessandrocoatti5186 Well Amazon let them make the series, so anything's possible

[@alessandrocoatti5186]

@@moonlight4665 i guess that's true

[@ajmalnayeem7881]

We raid Amazon and steal a million dollars

[@thanasispiliotis72]

Anthony Starr is a great actor who steals a lot of the scenes that he's in. I'm very interested what he does next in his career and also look foward to seeing him in the boys a lot more. also he would really good as reverse flash

[@abdelfettahmeddri9598]

Watch Banshee, JUST DO IT!

[@thanasispiliotis72]

@@abdelfettahmeddri9598 I've heard really good things about. I should probably Someday

[@TidusX16]

Honestly, if he was in the MCU I could see him be either Magneto or Dr.Doom. He has the intimidation role down. If he choose a lighter role he would be a great Scott Summers Cyclops or Ben Grimm.

[@thanasispiliotis72]

@@TidusX16 I agree. I also think he can be a good reverse flash. He definitely has the range to pull that off.

[@mbuit]

you're right, the actor really reminds of Michael Fassbender's Magneto but even more intimidating

[@whatsmayonnaise7070]

I love how you can have scenes where you almost feel kinda bad for homelander, but then your forced to remember he’s a horrible person

[@jameslough6329]

It is amazing that despite being a monstrous, evil, and irredeemable supervillain, the show genuinely makes you feel sorry for Homelander several times and even makes you empathize with him occasionally. He is a brilliant character

[@tc2241]

I like Homelander because he is a villain that makes sense. Even his terrible, evil actions are guided by some twisted internalized moral compass; which they explored in some of the later episodes in season 2. Without it, everyone would be dead

[@liamtreat5194]

Not to mention the show is clearly building up to him snapping completely, and just start killing everyone.

[@nothingbutintroverted4372]

@@liamtreat5194 i don’t think that’s what their doing they are building him up to a breaking point but i definitely don’t think his major breaking point with be completely outwards they have set him up to hate a part of himself that he can’t control his humanity, so much and have so much inner turmoil i feel like his breaking point will be very internal obviously with some casualties what should be interesting is how he pulls back from that because it’s still his need to be loved vs his turmoil

[@victorygame7296]

Ya’ know in the Italian dub he has the same voice as Superman? That makes him even more terrifying

[@anon2427]

@Wes LMAO

[@hylianchriss]

Italian Superman? That sounds like a joke.

[@ultimatestupidman8445]

@Wes And in the Brazillian dub of Fairy Oddparents,Cosmo has the same voice as Superman

[@jerryeberts]

@@hylianchriss ... "Hey! I'ma gonna run away, but like-a really fast-a!"

[@switchclaw]

"I'ma Homelander 🤌🤌"

[@AdamIqball]

Actually, i disagree with the plane part, they just used basic physics on pressure. Homelander was correct that any attempt to stop the plane at this speed, would be like trying to stop it with a missile, it'll stop alright, into a million pieces. However, one way he actually could have saved them, was when he was suggested to take them out one at a time. That could work, but he retorted the idea saying he'd have to return 123 times. So although he couldn't save the plane, he could have saved the passengers easily, he was just lazy af and as you said, he saw it as a pr stunt opportunity anyways.

[@pieguy6992]

He could've went under the plane, grabbed it somewhere around its center of mass (or maybe somewhere near the front?) and _gently_ carry it to safety. He wouldn't even need to land it ON LAND, he could've just set it down in the water, and if he did have to land it on land, he could just slow it down and then land it vertically. But obviously he either didn't think like that or it would've just been too hard for him because he's a pathetic weak man with no talent

[@eeg-rh7jv]

The passangers were doomed. Nobody can survived being transported hundreds of thousands of kilometers per seconds with bare hands and no protection.

[@shiftmym9079]

@@eeg-rh7jvI guess, at least some of the passengers could have been saved still

[@eeg-rh7jv]

@@shiftmym9079 Even then, Homelander doesn't work by this logic. People would be downright rioting that he let a plane with hundreds of people die, even if he realistically couldn't have prevented it. It would be a PR disaster and from a pragmatical standpoint it was the best choice for Homelander

[@saucevc8353]

@@eeg-rh7jv He could’ve used the life rafts and put all the passengers on there so he didn’t have to transport them so far.

[@spidashaw700]

Anthony Starr is an amazing actor. One of the few actors that makes me legitimately feel fear from their character. Whenever I watch the boys I feel terrible for whoever has to interact with him cus they are just seconds away from getting lasered

[@tentonmotto6779]

For the record: Homelander did not exactly get on board with Nazi ideology of Stormfront i.e. he did not embrace or believe in it, which is why he easily betrayed her memory in the end. Rather he was completely indifferent to her being a Nazi because from his point of view all ideologies, philosophies, moral values and religions are the same - nonsense that is beneath him, as you correctly noted. Not to mention that delving into all this book stuff and forming an actual belief of his own requires a lot of mental and emotional work and that's a big no-no for Homelander. He is just chasing popularity and at the moment Stormfront's methods and spin worked better, so he wanted to ride on that wave. When she fell from grace he abandoned ship. Whatever ideology seems more popular at exact moment in time would be "his" spin.

[@Champsr0ck2247]

White man has such a bigger superiority complex he ignores white supremacy is fucking funny to realize

[@cornelljohnson8224]

He bought into the parts about HIM being superior.

[@pallab1234]

He looked interested when Stromfront said he would lead the Nazi army. Before that he looked indifferent. He liked the fact he would lead, he did not care about any particular belief system be it Nazisim or whatever.

[@kevincoelho3872]

Exactly. He is too “pro American” to ever truly accept those beliefs.

[@bobjim4126]

Indeed. They also subtly showed he was on the ride simply for popularity. When she said to Ryan "White genocide" Homelander actually raised a brow and quickly recollected himself. He does whatever needs doing in order to gain control and gain his "godly" status among his fans. Homelander has no belief except in the need of wanting to TRULY exists. And you truly exists when your name never disappears - even after thousands of years.

[@whodatboi2567]

My understanding is that Homelander was scientifically correct about not being able to stop the plane. It's like the difference between stepping on a nail vs laying on a bed of nails. Granted you are correct in that the show heavily implied he could have saved many lives if he tried. Also I think Homelander's desire to be liked has moreso to do with the isolation that comes with his powers coupled with his childhood trauma. In a way the show perfectly captures the alienation that Superman experiences as, unlike Superman, Homelander has the freedom to get away with being vulnerable and "emotional".

[@haitang6062]

He too powerful so he never try to break his limited, he usually laser to kill erything show how lazy he is

[@moanamayer]

I dont think the point was that it was possible or not. I think what mattered is that he didn't even try.

[@alexbennett7018]

@@moanamayer exsactly even if he couldn’t stop the plane hitting the water a real hero would have tried to slow its decent so it’s impact was as survivable as possible and then gotten as many of the survivors as possible into life rafts. not to mention the only reason the plane was crashing was because homelands recklessly used hie eye laser on the last terrorist in the cockpit killing the pilot and destroying the plan’s controls.

[@brandonjones5879]

It's funny because characters like Superman have had added abilities to them that make them capable of performing feats like lifting a plane up. I believe the current belief is, Superman flies with telekinesis. So when he's lifting an object while flying he's lifting it with his mind not his physical strength. Getting back to Homelander, we sat down our friend who is a big superman fan and had him watch the Boys "Plane rescue" and naturally he was annoyed about him not being able to lift the plane, but we had to sit down explain to him how through actual physics he wouldn't be able to. And the discussion about Superman's abilities came into question.

[@porgskilledluke7086]

In the comic, Homelander accidentally destroyed the plane by trying to carry it

[@harrygeorge7748]

I like the use of laser eyes in the boys. It’s Incredibly violent and gruesome, realistically so. And it shows that the typical Superman, or any hero, could use their powers to do whatever they want but the fact that they use them for good is what makes them heroic. It’s cool.

[@La.Criminaleria]

That last fight scene in the second season IS GOLD. Loved the roughness of it.

[@jerryeberts]

Me-ow!

[@erlend6338]

@@jerryeberts ok

[@ronaldomontero3624]

​@@jerryeberts are you a cat now

[@adamg4912]

The aspect that everyone keeps missing is that Homelander does care about one thing: his own popularity. If he actually didn't give shit what other people thought of him, then he WOULD be the stock/boring Evil Superman. And the interpretation of the airplane scene doesn't ring true. One aspect of The Boys is satirizing superhero tropes by being more realistic. One scene that was cut from the comic is how the Butcher's wife died from during pregnancy because a super baby burst through her body. Something fans always joked would happen to Lois Lane if she was pregnant with Superman's baby (see the scene in Mallrats). A scene that survives is what A-Train's super speed would do to a civilian if he bumped into them... Homelander is telling the truth. Physics wouldn't allow him to save the plane without flying right through it. If he could've saved the plane, he would have but again, not because he's a good person but because it would be a MASSIVE PR opportunity to get love from the masses. This is why he chose not to save a handful of people because they would represent his failure to save everyone.

[@danielshore1457]

Yeah tbh what I took away from the plane scene is not whether he could stop a plane or not, but the actual fact that he didn't try to save anyone on the plane, like that's a good contrast with superman cause like if superman couldn't stop the plane he would still try to save the people, which already creates a separation between maeve and homelander cause like she still wants to try and save some of the passengers

[@stevenesbitt3528]

I think maybe you are forgetting that the goal was to get Vort into the US military, and this crash was used to progress this.

[@guitarfan01]

@@stevenesbitt3528 I think it's more like if he had saved the plane, it would be evidence that Vought should be helping the military, and if the plane crashed, he could spin it as "too bad they didn't let us help" like he did in the episode.

[@walteraiue5850]

Bro you talking about physics, the guy *can fly* so he sure could use his power to at least make the airplane lands on the ocean

[@bryfunkenstein]

Larry niven wrote an essay on the difficulties of Lois lane having a baby by superman. I think its called Man of Steal Woman of Kleenex. There may be a youtube video about it.

[@ioanavasile9970]

The show makes a point that every supe has a great weakness, a Kryptonite. Black Noir has peanuts, there's even a discussion earlier in the series about the great weaknesses. Homelander's great weakness is narcissism, as it is made apparent by the last episode.

[@margarethmichelina5146]

Homelander's weakness is his loneliness and he wants someone to love him. That's why he desperately wants to bond with Ryan, his son and he's also proud to see how Becca raised him properly so that's why he always let Becca go. That's why he's also cringe when he sees the video of himself in the public. Starlight's weakness is how she is not willing to stand up because she is raised by overly protective Christian mother. But, she's starting to get more confident and be able to stand up to herself and everyone. Maeve's weakness is her PTSD and alcoholism. She's always get pressured to work with psychopath Homelander and she's always giving up so easily. As soon as she sees Starlight, she sees her old self as a hero who genuinely help everyone. A-Train's weakness is his desire to use Compund V as his drugs and the perfect epitome of how The Flash always feel everytime he's not fast enough. The Deep's weakness is he is not as good while fighting in land and everyone else sees him as a joke. Basically pre-Aquaman before Jason Momoa makes him cool. Black Noir's weakness is nut allergy. That's why he refused to eat Almond Joy from Starlight and the IT lady. Translucent's weakness is his arrogance (well most of The Seven has) because he believes no one can get him for being invisible until Hughie explodes him. Stormfront's weakness is her racism towards non white people and motherly love because she lost her daughter and that's why she feels Ryan should belong to Homelander as a Supes and that's how she got defeated by him.

[@ioanavasile9970]

@@margarethmichelina5146 I agree on most fronts. You explored this much better than I did. I still think Homelander suffers most from narcissism. When it appeared that Ryan didn't have powers, he pushed him, just to prove that he is like him, hurting him in the process. At the end of the last episode, HL is given a choice about the video. He chose to be lonely, but adored by fans. That to me signals his narcissism more than his loneliness. Although he is a little bit of both, the narcissism is what is used against him in the battle.

[@lukayaroslav9914]

@@ioanavasile9970 Yeah, but Homelander always want attention and good public image. That's why he's stressed at the end of Season 2.

[@digitaldevil696]

I'd argue that the biggest thing about Superman is that his portrayal isn't necessarily about the godlike mythos. Sure, he has those incredible feats of power, but... The main truth about the farm boy from Smallvile is that he has always been willingly choosing to embrace his humanity and not to put himself above the mankind. He isn't representation of an ancient god, but of the existential choice to retain integrity and human decency, a counterpoint to a nihilistic cynical "humans are power craving bastards" outlook. And to me it's a much more powerful mythos

[@evanrocha3579]

The plane scene is actually a great example in the comics as well. It's not that they aren't capable of saving the plane, it's that they've never done actually difficult heroics and when they do they failed miserably and never want to try again.

[@veggieh8r]

The whole thing about the plane in the book was that they didn't know anything about saving a plane in midflight. Nothing about physics or cabin pressure or how their super strength would affect lightweight aircraft materials or even a little teamwork. The show simplified that to Homelander just not giving a fuck. Plane couldn't be landed so he got rid of the witnesses and developed his own narrative.

[@jbo4547]

False, Homelander specifically said that he couldn't just stop the plane to* fly it somewhere because thats not the way things work

[@teriyakisoup748]

What are the real physics behind trying to hold a plane midair

[@veggieh8r]

@@teriyakisoup748 Someone in these comments said it best: it the diffence between standing on one nail or standing on a bed of nails. One of the supes tries to hold up a jumbo jet they're just going to go through it.

[@QueenNeptune]

@@veggieh8r i don't think that makes sense. He would just have to slow the speed the plane is traveling at. He could just hold it from the bottom like we have seen Superman do a couple of times. He wouldn't go through unless he is apply force it by actually flying through it.

[@veggieh8r]

@@QueenNeptune Superman (and most comic heroes) take a lot of liberty with physics. Like when they pick up a car or bus with their bare hands. Go outside and lift your car with a jack directly under the floorboards and let me know where it ends up. A plane is significantly heavier and a person by scale is way smaller.

[@slicktop2jz855]

Saw a comment on KZbin....Superman is how America sees itself....Homelander is how the rest of the world sees America

[@IzayaLee1725]

It's not tho

[@slicktop2jz855]

@@IzayaLee1725 😂😂😂 Keep telling yourself that. America is the joke of the world that claims to be the definition of truth and justice. I'm Aussie, btw...and trust me, we tolerate Americans, we dont like them. Need I remind you of manifest destiny....

[@sheezy2526]

@@FSAPOJake haha so true. They even have statues built to glorify those genocidal maniacs. Imagine how Jews would feel if there was a statue of Hitler in Israel.

[@buckhunt6832]

@@sheezy2526 rip slicktop lol

[@robertdolcetti1992]

@@slicktop2jz855 Literally centuries ago. Also, how are the indigenous peoples over there prick?

[@caiuscosades362]

That scene where child homelander is in a empty padded room with nothing but the doctors waving at him through a little window in the door will stay with me forever.

[@zaboknowsbest13]

One of the best villain performances of all time. The dread that comes over you every time he's on screen is unmatched.

[@denvergray8943]

I thought the whole airplane scene was actually clearly self-explanatory. Homelander made several quick, careless decisions that entirely left the impending crash as his responsibility. He then immediately weighed the value of any life(other than Maeve) against the fallback of his mistakes and had no issue letting everyone die or outright killing them himself. But I'll totally believe an apathetic disinterest in making an effort was a chunk of those calculations. As an aside, he truly couldn't catch the plane. But he could have saved, at the very least, a lot of those people.

[@Wolfman7870]

Ehhhh, I don't think he could've though. If he committed to trying, he'd have to fly extremely fast to the ground with about 2 to five people. Assuming the physics of thier world is as real as ours outside of persons with powers, flying people with no protective gear from that altitude would kill them as the speed he'd have to fly to make a return trip would snap thier spines and air pressure would explode thier lungs, they'd freeze to death etc. He could've saved a few like that airplane scene in Iron Man 3 but they'd expose him and deeply damage Vought which as a sociopath, I find completely justifiable in his position.

[@denvergray8943]

@@Wolfman7870 Well the plane should, although it isn't stated I don't believe to be fair, should have been losing altitude without controls. That offers potential for oxygen and temperature, but how fast he could fly without killing them and how many at a time he could take is absolutely up for debate. It's possible he couldn't save many, but based on his showings it's still my opinion that he could have made a decent dent at least. And yeah, his logic is perfectly sound and it fits his moral outlook perfectly as well. Homelander being Homelander, that situation probably would end up with the same result regardless of what he did or how he did it haha.

[@PredatorH2O]

There are parts of the plane that can whithstand the plane's weight. Even easier when it's on the air. He could save them but it he never feels like putting effort.

[@joiceraiana]

That's my thoughts too, he was the culprit for the crash, he lack of care handling the situation was at fault. He would have to put a effort to solve the problem he caused or he could just not, he choose not. In the end doesn't matter if he could've save those people, some or all of them, he simply didn't gave enough of a fuck, and they dying was even less troublesome for him, less work and nobody would call him out about the mistakes made while fighting the terrorists. The point is not if he could is that he didn't even tried. He didn't want to try. And that's why he would never be a comic book hero like spiderman or superman who wouldn't stop trying, even if kills them, or even a redeemable anti-hero, who at least would feel bad for their part in the whole thing if they actually couldn't do anything about it.

[@nrpbrown]

Seeing him vulnerable at times this season was really chilling for me. Just made him feel even more unpredictable.

[@level58deathknight18]

Homelander actually couldn't stop the plane, because of the reason he actually gives: his hands would punch through the hull. Superman lifting massive things by his hands would be like you lifting a loaf of bread by two toothpicks: the small surface area, with all that pressure, would poke holes.

[@charlie-obrien]

A plane....any plane can be supported by the structure that the landing gear is built into, even under stress, otherwise no plane could ever land. With Homelander you have to always consider the psychological aspect and his deep feelings of inferiority. Physically he may have well been able to lift and carry the plane to safety...BUT, he wasn't sure if he could and therefore did not want to attempt it and possibly fail in front of Maeve. He is a messed up kook and for sure most of his shortcomings are self imposed, but in reality he might not really have any limitations. And yes I write this after having watched him battle Soldier Boy and Butcher, both of whom he is afraid of.

[@Jaydoff]

@@charlie-obrien The parts of the plane that bear the load of the landing gear are structurally different from the bottom surface. Landing wheels are also a lot bigger than a single person and put in multiple places on the plane. Im assuming a lot of the downward force of a plane landing is transferred to forward momentmum with the wheels spinning and is dispersed along the length of a runway. That plus the plane is in an uncontrollable nose dive going much faster than a plane just before landing, so it would take a lot more force to lift it up. That being said, what Homelander said earlier about not being about to create lifting force while flying is bullshit. Maybe he doesn't have enough power to lift a plane, but the fact that he can fly in the first place means he can create some amount of upward force in air.

[@charlie-obrien]

@@Jaydoff Anyone here who has worked on planes or flown a plane, please raise their hand..... 🙋

[@Jaydoff]

@@charlie-obrien Ah I see you've flown a plane therefore you have a masters in physics thanks.

[@charlie-obrien]

@@Jaydoff Well I did more than turn the pages in a comic book. And yes studying the structure of a plane is involved in flight instructions.

[@Shlogger]

It's really fascinating watching a character who just from his presence alone creates so much tension. Anthony Starr does an awesome job portraying an emotionally fragile superpowered psychopath. You just really feel the fear and contempt from everyone around him. Everything he says is either some kind of threat or just kind of gloating over his position in the world and everyone just has to put up with it because, well, they want to live and he could literally pop off at any moment and nobody could do anything about it. I think you nailed it on the head with the comparison to the elites running things at this point and how helpless we all feel as they move their plans forward. That's what's kind of refreshing about the show. Everything is super bold and brazen and in your face but at the same time they address a lot of underlying thoughts and feelings and opinions in society in a somewhat more subtle way and aren't scared to lampoon all the different groups equally for the most part. I pretty much avoid all superhero shit at this point but I make an exception for this show because it's just really well done.

[@ytubeanon]

I still think if Homelander had just washed his face, Ryan would've ended up choosing him over Billy Butcher lol

[@_hariomverma]

Damn 😂😂😂 you got it right man

[@izunahosaki6133]

i don't know... Ryan knew that stormfront was his girlfriend and she was the one who attacked his mom while Butcher tried to save her. plus when Homelander arrived, the first thing he did was being sad about Stormfront dying, not his mom dying, so i think Ryan went with Butcher mainly because the connexion with his mom, although for sure the blood wouldn't have helped Homelander's case...

[@thehorrorcounselors4747]

😂😂😂Seriously tho If homelander came to me with blood all over his face saying come here in an aggressive manor I would leg it

[@silverdragon996]

Gotta say, I liked the fight scene at the end of S2, and counter to popular belief, I liked S2 just as much as I liked S1, they are both amazing pieces of media.

[@splash_067]

@JLingz Biggest Fan the heros felt more threatening in season 1

[@lpphillyfan]

I liked Season 2 better.

[@bonnogglebob8702]

Hello I'm bon nogglebob and I'm gonna do a triple backflip offer the empire state building

[@nerd_nato564]

@ShutterShocked From what I know, most of the backlash was internet nazis realizing that Homelander wasn't actually supposed to be a power fantasy. The usual "stop putting politics in our shows, you call everyone nazis these days" bullshit.

[@katherineshimkus9511]

Soldier Boy is Homelander's actual father, yet they're nothing alike. Soldier Boy may be an AH, but he cares about people and genuinely wants to keep them safe. Soldier Boy was born in 1919 and fought alongside the troops in many of history's most famous wars. He knows how to be a soldier and what it's like on the battlefield. Homelander was kept so isolated from the world, he's almost incapable of forming meaningful relationships. His whole life is 100% manufactured and managed for him, it's likely he could never manage on his own without Vaught. Homelander will do anything he can to keep his public unaware of just how dangerous he truly is. He let's people die in a plane crash and still spins it in his favor. Thank you for coming to my TED Talk.

[@witchcraft3853]

Soldier boy actually didn’t do shit and he’s just another overpowered degen supe. So sorry to tell you he didn’t storm Normandy with the troops (at least in the show) he was only there for a photo shoot a few days after the war. I also don’t see where you get the idea that SB gives a shit about anyone lol. SB and Homelander are both top tier garbage. They’re both pretty cool for sure but neither of them truly care about other people.

[@MysteriousTomJenkins]

Soldier Boy never fought in any war, that was all lies. Why do you think Vought was trying to get Supes into the military in the modern day? Because they never had Supes in the military before, Soldier Boy was a fraud like every other super. I forget the exact scene but he even tells Hughie he never fought in any wars, just took photos for PR and propaganda.

[@Jenna-in4br]

What? Soilder boy was never in any battles, they even say in the show that he would show up for a photo op and thats it. The only time he was in the field he killed people even on his side in violent horrible ways, him and his little gang saw it as a fun game.

[@sikozen]

YAAAAASSSS!!! OMG I'm so happy I found you. I feel like a LOT of people really miss the nuance of that character when held up other stories of Super Beings (whatever we end up calling them). Starr does a great job showing the cracks in the Super Being facade.

[@L3ON360Z]

I think the show was trying to be more realistic in physics, so Homelander holding the plane up would be impossible without him breaking through the plane and splitting it.

[@teriyakisoup748]

I agree

[@anitaremenarova6662]

Still, he could've saved many people if he tried.

[@emmalee8548]

yeah he didn’t even want to save the little girl. he couldn’t save everyone so he let everyone die to save his reputation

[@anitaremenarova6662]

@@emmalee8548 Nope. He could've saved everyone. It was just too much effort on his part.

[@dustinthrift763]

That’s what happens in the comics so you right

[@Michael-lo6pc]

I've always had an issue with Superman carrying a plane. Thin aluminum shell, does not make a good Hardpoint. The strength of the hero isn't the issue, a needle is plenty strong enough to hold up a soap bubble on it's tip, but it won't end well for the bubble.

[@reapermaster1233]

exactly

[@cornelljohnson8224]

I remember them trying to explain this, in the 90's I think. Sure, Superman is strong, but his main power is actually tactile telekinesis. When he touches something, his power is what's keeping the the structure intact. It's also why bullets bounce off his costume.

[@PropheticShadeZ]

Um, kinda, he just would need to take his time and it would work, especially over water, if he applied gradual pressure he could significantly slow down the plane or change its course, allowing it to land in the water safely or get out of the stall, your physics is accurate but its still possible, just not how it is shown

[@brandonweatherstone2380]

I remember in the comics they had one explanation in like a DC/Marvel crossover event, where Reed Richards examines Superman's powers and comes to the conclusion that his power isn't incredible physical strength but incredible telekinetic strength, which allows him to fly and carry massive objects because he can apply his mental energies over the things he carries equally, and that technically his only limit is what he thinks he can do. But I'm pretty sure this isn't a canon explanation, and besides, its comic books, so you kinda have to take these things at face value.

[@darlalathan6143]

In the '80s and '90s, both Superman and Superboy's (clone of Superman) origins, many of their powers, including super strength, are explained as telekinesis, like X-Men's Jean Grey/Phoenix, This is how they lift large objects, such as airplanes, ships, skyscrapers and tow planets on chains through space in the comics and movies.

[@storysnob1022]

Amazing video. Love your careful dissection of stuff like this. 👏🏻👏🏻♥️

[@dongregory533]

Homelander is by far the creepiest, most unsettling villain in the history of television. Anthony Starr deserves an Emmy. He's phenomenal as Homelander and does a great job of illustrating Homelander's low-key psychosis. He's absolutely chilling in the role.

[@presidenttogekiss635]

What Homelander meant about the plane is that, because he is much smaller than the plane, when he tried to grab it, the plane would simply tear in pieces. The reason a character like Jean Grey can hold massive amount of weight with her mind is that she applies equal pressure to all parts of the object. But someone with superstrenght is the equivalent of trying to hold a person with a needle: the needle simply punctures the skin. It's a physics thing. It's a play on how the way superman's powers work would not be as useful in real life.

[@david.s.k.secure.8714]

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[@PropheticShadeZ]

He just needs to stop the plane slowly, its a complex problem, and he didnt want to think about it that much and he didnt want a partial win

[@presidenttogekiss635]

@@PropheticShadeZ I don't think Speed is the issue. The issue is that whatever piece he tried to grab of the plane would just tear off.

[@cheetoschrist5685]

@@presidenttogekiss635 Still, Homelander definetely has the tools, he could fly slowly beneath the plane and deaccelerate it, or try to push it backwards from the cockpit, but any action like that requires a minimum of effort and finesse, which Homelander completely lacks

[@drumer960]

He may have been able to hold the plane from specific points that are stronger like the landing gear or the taxi point but it might have failed and he didn't necessarily know or care to try.

[@superllama5509]

Are we not going to comment on the fact that homelander is a literal representation of American domestic and foreign policy which is why him jumping onto stormfronts nazi ideology almost immediately was such a gutsy move on the part of the creators

[@jbo4547]

@Casanova Frankenstein lol too bad its all shite anyway

[@aplace5791]

@Casanova Frankenstein half of America is obsessed with the “superiority of white people” & socialism.

[@MsLouisez]

@@aplace5791 you put socialism and white supremacy in the same sentence. I forget that Americans are afraid of socialism.

[@connorgolden4]

Except homelander wasn’t ever on board with Stormfronts shit. He didn’t care for her ideology, only her.

[@Vapor817]

@@connorgolden4 like many american conservatives, they dont believe in any of that bunk, but it keeps them in power so they won't go against it

[@alexjames4770]

Physics wise, (assuming Homelander’s strength is literally just strength) he was absolutely correct about his inability to save the plane. It wouldn’t matter how strong he is, the surface area of the plane versus the force focused on the size of a single person would cause the plane to crumble around him. He would just punch a hole through the hull, just like if you try to lift a book with a needle, the needle will just puncture the book. I do think he decided too quickly the plane couldn’t be saved, (and obviously him frying the controls essentially caused it) but his assessment of Maeve’s suggestion was correct. That’s why DC Comics retconned how Superman’s strength works, suggesting he projects a field that surrounds what he lifts, which is why he can lift planes and carry buildings without them falling apart.

[@dede-bq7sg]

Love the happy music un the back, really fits the mood.

[@aaaaAlexandra.Clawaa]

I don't know if they did it on purpose, but I wanna see more of Black Noir! I'm too curious!!!

[@Nat-gh2tt]

I actually like the fact that The Boys had to be more focused on character development than big over the top action sequences. I will say It was almost poetic to see a powerful being like Stormfront get the lowest budget beating of her life by getting jumped by three other heroes. Shaky cam and all.

[@timothymills8047]

I loved it

[@WheelerKyle]

Star's acting is so damn good, it CARRIES the show

[@quinnmarchese6313]

Season 3 has this awesome moment where Soldier Boy, Billy, and Hughie, the latter two amped up on the new temporary V, all take on Homelander at once and its the first time Homelander actually has to try and his reaction is to run away.

[@RTDice11]

5:18 THANK YOU Everyone just takes HL at his word, when the dude is clearly putting more effort into rationalizing abandoning the mess he made than actually trying to fix it

[@od3910]

If you can make your audience identify with your antagonist one moment then do something to completely alienate them the next then you have a great villain. It's scary when we can understand people's reasoning. If it's just an evil dude then most of us won't be able to empathise at all so we can separate ourselves from "the bad" entirely. But when you can't that really gets under your skin

[@aitothechamp7263]

I identify with homelander in every scene

[@Riz-au-lait]

@@aitothechamp7263 I too, often murder hundreds using laser eyes, so relatable

[@S.D.323]

@@aitothechamp7263 seek professional help

[@stanbravopodcast5549]

Dude you are easily one of the best movie/tv review channels on youtube. Never change.

[@tesstucker3311]

I’m not normally the kind of person who loves the villain character in a show, but Homelander is fascinating to watch.

[@jerryeberts]

There's lots of anti-heroes who are way more fun than an actual so-sincere hero. He's some character, I agree.

[@aaronstanleystanley8922]

Honestly I liked the ending fight scene for season 2 but also I was just really on board with stomping out a nazi

[@gunnarsoderhielm3425]

Yea it most certainly was not the epic, highly choreographed and very skilled fighting style you see in marvel movies and the likes. It was a bunch of people who simply fought with whatever street skills they had, going on full emotions and basic human instinct, which both felt fitting for these characters who don't need to train to be expert fighters, and also just cathartic to see them let loose and curb stomp a nazi.

[@kyransawhill6650]

There's also just something satisfying about the raw nature of it. It wasn't some big action sequence. It was a bunch of the actual heroes kicking a fascist scumbag while she was down. That's something you'd never see in a blockbuster superhero film or TV series, let alone most action movies and shows. You never see the hero kicking the villain while they're down because it's ugly and not proper. But when it's a Nazi, it's far from inappropriate. It's hard to imagine Captain America giving Red Skull that treatment, but it'd be satisfying as hell. Even more satisfying with Stormfront, though, because she's someone you could see existing in real-life. She isn't some agent of Hydra with a gimmick or cosmic MacGuffin she's after so she can conquer the cosmos or whatever. She's a much more real look at the kind of American fascism that Hitler took inspiration from as he was coming into his ideals in Germany and how it persists to this very day. The kind of evil you can't simply stomp out, but if you could just get your hands on the people peddling it and stoking that fear in millions of others through their dog whistles and agitprop, you'd give them the same treatment she got in that scene.

[@ajaysidhu471]

@@gunnarsoderhielm3425 yeah the punches also looked really fake and feminine lmao

[@Dragonlochd0815]

Antony Starr is just perfect as Homelander, one of the best played roles i had the honor to see. Every scene with him is just pure gold, he is as threatening and intimidating as it gets, even if he is just talking or pretending to be nice. I love this show so much.

[@Battones]

Anthony Starrs performance is for me the best ever superhero performance. The layers he shows in his character is amazing and scary. I feel like I would be scared meeting him IRL.. :)

[@RastaGamesful]

Antony Starr really great actor. I first saw him in "Bunshee". After "The Boys" he became one of my favourite actors!

[@OdysseyTag]

The show is SERIOUSLY done well. It's my new favourite. I'd recommend it to anyone who's tired of the typical superhero tropes and would like to see a bit of that subverted.

[@dcmarvelcomicfans9458]

In that case I highly recommend you watch Big Hero 6 animated movie Megamind The Crow kickass defendor Chronicle and Unbreakable and Deadpool( the first) the first Incredibles movie

[@m_winewood]

@@dcmarvelcomicfans9458 chronicle was fuckin awesome

[@splash_067]

@@m_winewood definitely,I should watch it again someday

[@beegee80]

Homelander is one of very few characters on film/screen that actually scares the shit out of me every time he's up there. Antony Starr does a great job with him.

[@ExpletoryPenguin]

Great video, with incredible points. Here in 2022, I would be really interested to watch a follow up analysis from you about him, after season 3 wraps up

[@teddcuizon3964]

I'm glad you spoke about the plane scene because I've been saying all along that homelander just refused to save the plane instead of him not saving it because he couldn't.

[@lugaruclone]

Honestly the version of an alternate superman that most resonated with me was also on Prime... The Tick. There is a Superman type character who is in practice just as wonderful as Superman but at his core he is deeply insecure and constantly worries about what humans think about him... alternating between great acts and great resentment. Also the Boys show is better than the comic in pretty much every aspect, Ennis in extreme mode is just insanely shallow... grossout sex, grossout violence, 5 pages of dense exposition, rinse, repeat.

[@goosgasgas4862]

This... Although I found the whole story around the history of Vaught and 9/11 to be incredibly interesting, even more interesting than what they came up with in the show, reading the exposition dumps from The Legend and Mallory was the equivalent of reading excruciatingly long wikipedia articles with drawings.

[@grahamstrouse1165]

The Tick is a completely different kind of story. The Tick is all a send-up of super-hero tropes but the character himself is COMPLETELY different.

[@Whimzy74]

You nailed it. The scene where Homelander takes out the Daredevil guy is still the most haunting scene for me. Also agree that he can't be redeemed and that exploring his humanity shouldn't be seen as a redemption arc

[@margaretroberts4876]

Great Video! Love it!