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An examination of Hwi Noree and exploration of the role she played in revealing the hidden aspects of the God Emperor. Spoiler warning if you are unfamiliar with Frank Herbert’s Dune series.
For over 3500 years, the God Emperor of Dune tyrannically steered the future of the Imperium toward the Golden Path, a meticulously executed plan aimed at ensuring the long-term survival of humanity at the cost of individual freedoms. This plan required his transformation into a hybrid monster, yet deep within the Worm God lay a delicate strand of pure humanity. This facet of his being was directly exposed by the appearance of a singular individual, Hwi Noree, ingeniously crafted to prey upon what some thought to be a latent vulnerability.
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@NerdCookies
@NerdCookies 5 ай бұрын
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@klyanadkmorr
@klyanadkmorr 5 ай бұрын
As a twincest fan, Ghanima and Letoll as individuals had a connection love from being preborn but having their parents memories they already knew understood sexual bonds but never did it with each other esp during possessed. In the book God Emperor it is said Hwe Nori bonded with Letoll worm stole his heart because the Tlhelaxu bred her with Ghanima genes to try and break him as she filled the same companion ship same mind the his twin had given him still she died leaving Letoll utterly alone for centuries.
@klyanadkmorr
@klyanadkmorr 5 ай бұрын
Eta forgot Hwi was Ixian and invisible but still Ghanima likeness was in her
@norad_clips
@norad_clips 5 ай бұрын
“Yes, I’d still love you if you were a worm.” “Bet.”
@chefntoast
@chefntoast 4 ай бұрын
😂
@IapitusMcHeimer
@IapitusMcHeimer 5 ай бұрын
Dune is an amazing series that covers so many eternal philosophical questions, like "What is the nature of free will?" and "Honey, would you love me if I was a worm?"
@Zatoichi242
@Zatoichi242 5 ай бұрын
Hwi was an excellent example of how no one else fully grasped the enormity of the golden path. Leto II's resolve and commitment was only able to be momentarily shaken at best.
@PearTree450
@PearTree450 5 ай бұрын
Really only her and Ganima
@nurlindafsihotang49
@nurlindafsihotang49 3 ай бұрын
Not irulan? The mother that raised them? That shielded them untill they can defend themselves even againt their crazy aunt Alia?😢 Wow..just wow...Irulan really get the short stick huh?
@PearTree450
@PearTree450 3 ай бұрын
@nurlindafsihotang49 No in fact she feared them in many ways because they were abomination, but it was never hinted that she even knew about the golden path and of its implications. Really only Hwi, Gahnima,Moneo, and later Siona understood the gravity of it.
@eszemaszeszed
@eszemaszeszed 3 ай бұрын
@@nurlindafsihotang49 if anything Alia got the short stick really. no one cared for her, no one was there for her. she was doomed from the womb, literally.
@rlarkinson
@rlarkinson 5 ай бұрын
I get the feeling she was the final push that was ultimately needed. Imagine thousands of years of many and different torments.. all torturing you mentally, physically & possibly even spiritually. Then this human is put in-front of you, and you are just so struck so much by her being this perfect form of all that's good about humanity that suddenly it all just clicked into place. I really think this is what he saw when he was "looking at her".
@fernandauribe2503
@fernandauribe2503 5 ай бұрын
Correcto
@chewface
@chewface 4 ай бұрын
And then she sleeps with Duncan Idaho for some random reason.
@gargoyles9999
@gargoyles9999 3 ай бұрын
@@chewfacewell he can’t really do the deed anymore so he said she could have a lover
@aliasfakename3159
@aliasfakename3159 4 ай бұрын
Leto II loved humanity so much that he became a godlike dictator to make sure humanity survived more than a thousand years. Like a super strict parent who knows their kids hate them but will be stronger for their treatment
@OreadNYC
@OreadNYC 4 ай бұрын
Exactly. Without the Scattering, humanity would have been destroyed. When humans fled the Imperium into far-flung parts of the universe in the Scattering, it increased the chances that at least some remnants of humanity would survive somewhere.
@Scweetoof
@Scweetoof 4 ай бұрын
He had to put on a lot of pressure and negativity , and completely change himself as a person to father a positive chance of human survival. Its tragic that humanity wouldn’t have been able to appreciate it until he was long gone, like you said much like people’s relationships with their tough but loving parents.
@chasefrost1401
@chasefrost1401 5 ай бұрын
Leto ll took the worm relationship question and said "Hold my water of life, and watch THIS"
@KaironQD
@KaironQD 5 ай бұрын
The Bene Tleilax succeeded beyond their wildest dreams in enabling the full culmination of Leto II's vision
@kaleiohulee6693
@kaleiohulee6693 5 ай бұрын
I was always fascinated by the idea that Leto II attraction to Hwi was her innocence. The corrupted being drawn to the uncorrupted because they are a reminder of what had been lost. She was a trap laid by virtue of not being a trap, whatever moral wrongs went into her existence she herself could not be responsible for her own creation.
@Stevie-L-n8g
@Stevie-L-n8g 5 ай бұрын
Leto was never corrupt! He hated corruption!
@kaleiohulee6693
@kaleiohulee6693 5 ай бұрын
@@Stevie-L-n8g different type of corruption. In Leto II's case it would be the loss of his humanity which he struggled with for eons. Hwi presented a path back for him he couldn't refuse.
@ZYXPQI
@ZYXPQI 5 ай бұрын
Duncan had a crush on his Boss's wife, he had a crush on his Boss's daughter and had a crush on his Boss's grandsons wife.
@greywolf1989
@greywolf1989 5 ай бұрын
This guy has to chill out
@curvygirllalaflame
@curvygirllalaflame 5 ай бұрын
He loves unattainable women
@Stevie-L-n8g
@Stevie-L-n8g 5 ай бұрын
You’re an idiot!
@bruss529
@bruss529 4 ай бұрын
He's a horndog! what can you say?
@Mytelefe
@Mytelefe 4 ай бұрын
The beef is swelling.
@b.thomas8926
@b.thomas8926 5 ай бұрын
He let it happen. I'm convinced that he knew that he had completed his mission and it was time to let it all go. I think that with his own power, he learned that humanity no longer needed his guidance because she restored his FAITH.
@TomFromMars
@TomFromMars 5 ай бұрын
Yes. His reign was always meant to have an end. The bene tleilax thought they could shorten it, all they accomplished was making the last moments of it more pleasing.
@b.thomas8926
@b.thomas8926 5 ай бұрын
@@TomFromMars Agreed. After all his sacrifices, he finally had a chance to enjoy a small bit of life at the time he needed it most. They made her, but SHE set him free.
@TomFromMars
@TomFromMars 5 ай бұрын
@@b.thomas8926 and i think Hwi was in the know about it. She was made to betray him but she gladly sacrificed her time with him (maybe she wasn't expecting it to end that abruptly though). In the end all serve the god emperor in some way even those who oppose him. The bene tleilax by providing a companion to him and the ixians by producing the no-ships he wanted for mankind before the scattering.
@nurlindafsihotang49
@nurlindafsihotang49 3 ай бұрын
The most tragic love story😢
@anarwally
@anarwally 5 ай бұрын
Leto II the God Emperor was a tragic figure. The scene at the end of the book where she says something like "I'll go ahead of you my love" is one of the best ever in fiction. It's been a long time since I read God Emperor. I need to do so again soon.
@Emy-fv5ny
@Emy-fv5ny 4 ай бұрын
Why? Did she die?
@Shan_Dalamani
@Shan_Dalamani 4 ай бұрын
@@Emy-fv5ny Falling off a cart into a chasm tends to be fatal. Yes, she died. Poor Duncan had to end up with Siona, who was one of the most unlikeable characters FH ever wrote.
@Emy-fv5ny
@Emy-fv5ny 4 ай бұрын
@@Shan_Dalamani And this Duncan has something with Hwi?
@Shan_Dalamani
@Shan_Dalamani 4 ай бұрын
@@Emy-fv5ny He was in love with her.
@Emy-fv5ny
@Emy-fv5ny 4 ай бұрын
@@Shan_Dalamani I have to read this book...Don't care about the others, because this one sounds good. 😃
@grallonsphere271
@grallonsphere271 5 ай бұрын
I've just finished re-reading God-Emperor which, to this day, I consider the best of the original Dune novels. Regarding his relationship with Hwi, his sudden decision to relocate his upcoming marriage to the very place where his most obdurate enemies were congregated seem to confirm your intuition about her role. Despite stating he never looked into his own future, he knew he had to die under very specific circumstances and he seem to have chosen the when and where in the end.
@dodgyyoutuber9560
@dodgyyoutuber9560 5 ай бұрын
Then why did he let hwi die too
@Scweetoof
@Scweetoof 4 ай бұрын
@@dodgyyoutuber9560personally I imagine it was out of selfishness. He existed in a situation that already took so much from him, he didn’t have much of choice in combatting the pressure of the golden path since he was a baby. In death he probably wanted her to himself, he couldn’t have any “toys,” he always had to think for the betterment of humanity , maybe he felt he’d die with his favorite one and only “toy.”
@EthalaRide
@EthalaRide 4 ай бұрын
I don't know much about dune, but what I'm hearing here is Hwi Noree is basically _Smurfette._ She was designed by evil wizard Gargamel to sabatage the Smurfs and sow jealousy and chaos because she was the only female a smurf could be with, but she ended up being more of a boon to the smurfs than anything and helping them, and showing how good the smurfs are for accepting her. Hwi was designed to sow chaos and jealousy by being a perfect partner for the (secretly benevolent) tyrant Leto II God Emperor, and she ended up helping Leto II WAY MORE than she hindered him, reaffirming is journey down the Golden Path and showing how good he was for accepting her.
@jtownjumpcity5937
@jtownjumpcity5937 5 ай бұрын
This is my favorite book in Frank’s amazing collection. Soooo deep in provoking thought and teaching, story telling. Leto sacrificed him self selflessly, being a predator out of love, to create chaos making him a true hero. It’s actually so sad. Crap it’s so complex it’s hard to convey. lol.. I love how you are able to show that people aren’t alone in the depths of Franks work. Thanks again!
@calolson9572
@calolson9572 5 ай бұрын
Hwi was more of an aid to Leto than the Ixians ever anticipated. I find her character both amazing and tragic, which is also how I see the God Emperor himself. Thanks for shining a light on this fascinating character!
@abstractnonsense3253
@abstractnonsense3253 5 ай бұрын
Ah, sweet Hwi Noree. I completely get why the God Emperor fell madly in love with her.
@dodgyyoutuber9560
@dodgyyoutuber9560 5 ай бұрын
She cheats on him.
@malena5026
@malena5026 4 ай бұрын
@@dodgyyoutuber9560he was a worm lol he even had a lover at hand for her
@nurlindafsihotang49
@nurlindafsihotang49 3 ай бұрын
@@malena5026 like paul punished irulan to never have any touch, soft glances or CHILDREN OF HER OWN by his choice, his son Leto II cannot touch or giving his wife children by nature.....as they both are wife only in name. Gosh....makes me hates Paul even more. He trully makes Leto II pays for his karma 😿 But Hwi noree must be grateful, and felt she is more lucky than her step-mother in law.
@JarvisCosric885
@JarvisCosric885 5 ай бұрын
Impressive. Hwi Noree is one of the main reasons why I love God Emperor of Dune. Also, if there is a live action version of God Emperor of Dune, I vote for the singer HER or Nicole Scherzinger or someone really beautiful to play Hwi Noree
@kenaustinardenol1338
@kenaustinardenol1338 5 ай бұрын
I just realized something though I could be wrong. Both Paul and Leto 2 were thrown in a pivotal role in human history, but both always wanted to be brought back yo their basic human existence. Paul tried that by becoming The Prophet, Leto was brought back to that idea by Hwi Noree. Leto knew what his choice for the Golden Path would mean to him and it took 3500 years for the other forces of the universe to find out how to break him
@nurlindafsihotang49
@nurlindafsihotang49 3 ай бұрын
Alone, without ghanima and any companion...Leto II is a helluva worm-dude
@MatthewTheWanderer
@MatthewTheWanderer 5 ай бұрын
This is literally the first time I've ever heard of Hwi Noree.
@georgewhaley8951
@georgewhaley8951 4 ай бұрын
This is the first time I have heard of this character, and it would seem that she was a representation of a path that Leto could have been while on the Golden Path, had he not immediately committed so hard to the processes of ridding humanity of its self-destructive nature's. She is also a representation of what made humanity worth saving, and to prove that no matter how much of a monster someone presents themselves to being, if they hold no love for others, be they specific or in general, they would be unworthy of calling themselves humanity's savior.
@knghtbrd
@knghtbrd 5 ай бұрын
Hwi felt more like an object to me than a character, and while Leto described his attraction to her, I'd always thought it was Duncan's attraction that moved the story along. I was wrong though, Elaine has got to the heart of it I think: Leto knew what had to be done, and Hwi was indeed a temptation not to see it through, but more strongly a reminder of what had to happen and why. Siona needed to exist (and how many more bloodlines that could produce a Siona at any moment?) and his rule had to be terrible enough and just long enough to leave an indelible stain on people's memory: Never again allow any sort of centralized control of humanity, and never again can "humanity" as a whole be known. That is all, then Leto's sacrifice would be complete.
@andrewlim9345
@andrewlim9345 5 ай бұрын
Good analysis of Hwi. God Emperor Dune was a fitting conclusion to the Atreides saga.
@gargoyles9999
@gargoyles9999 3 ай бұрын
Leto: This Ixian bussy got me actin unwise
@gerhard7988
@gerhard7988 5 ай бұрын
I remain a big fan of your discussions of the later books of Dune since you include the fantastical art work instead of stills from the movies or TV show related to the first book.
@Jared_Wignall
@Jared_Wignall 5 ай бұрын
I always find your Dune videos to be very informative. Keep up the great work Elaine and have a great day!
@GilbertJones-cv9yf
@GilbertJones-cv9yf 5 ай бұрын
All of her being was a catalyst to Leto as a weapon against his Golden Path but unlike a normal catalyst her interaction also provoked a combining that was not intended by Leto's enemies creating unintended consequences.
@GholaMuadDib
@GholaMuadDib 5 ай бұрын
Thanks for another great video. She was an interesting character. I liked how the God Emperor knew she would bring about his destruction, but he still went along with it. I think it was a necessary part of his Golden Path. So he could move on to his next stage of existence. 8:53
@pendragon0905
@pendragon0905 4 ай бұрын
So, you mean to say that I like poetry because, underneath this callous and heartless exterior, I just want to... be loved? THROW THEM OFF THE SHIP! - Vogon Jeltz
@stsolomon618
@stsolomon618 5 ай бұрын
Loving the Dune lore.
@richardrickford3028
@richardrickford3028 5 ай бұрын
Like all really good writers Frank Herberts work is all about the unanswered questions rather than questions that are given formulaic answers.
@Shaitanshammer
@Shaitanshammer 5 ай бұрын
First. The title made me grin for some reason. Second, this video sums up almost the entirety of DUNE in a nice package.
@catinore3837
@catinore3837 5 ай бұрын
Thank you for this closer look at one of the more mysterious and intriguing characters from the later books. Just the other day I was reflecting on GEoD and how I really didn’t remember/understand what Hwi’s deal was, so this was some timely enlightenment :)
@kdog3908
@kdog3908 5 ай бұрын
Hwi Noree? We have entered the Deep Lore of Dune! Edit: Although she is, typically for Herbert, an interesting character, Chenoeh was a bit more compelling, imo.
@zardozspeakstome
@zardozspeakstome 5 ай бұрын
A wonderful choice of music for this episode. I actually think it would work wonderfully in a film version, especially as an end theme. A fitting musical accompaniment to a powerfully melancholic story.
@slave_to_snoozing
@slave_to_snoozing 4 ай бұрын
do you know the artist ? i don't think it was indicated in description.
@marknovak6498
@marknovak6498 5 ай бұрын
The defeat attempt by distraction was a brilliant twist. It made us care about the God emperor as a person we can empathize with at the inflection point.
@grognardattirant2446
@grognardattirant2446 5 ай бұрын
Ahah, I happen to be coincidentally doing a painting about Hwi Noree. Great work as always.
@LaineyBug2020
@LaineyBug2020 5 ай бұрын
It is nice to hear someone affirm Leto's love for humanity!
@Uraniabce
@Uraniabce 5 ай бұрын
I am fascinated by the intensity of the bond between Hwi & Leto & how much intensity & passion Frank Herbert poured into their interactions & what was, for Leto, anyway, a very brief relationship.🤔
@nurlindafsihotang49
@nurlindafsihotang49 3 ай бұрын
You'd be suprised how fleeting moment of tenderness could last in ones memories
@gszd55
@gszd55 5 ай бұрын
Such an engrossing read, first read in my late teens, I got so much more out of it mid-life. Thanks for your indepth analysis of Hwi.
@therearenoshortcuts9868
@therearenoshortcuts9868 4 ай бұрын
The Beauty and the Beastie... "a Wolf?" "no a sand-worm" "holy...." "but he's a super-rich god emperor though" "ok i'm interested now"
@cthulu8mytoast
@cthulu8mytoast 5 ай бұрын
I would absolutely love, if an attempt was made to bring the God Emperor to the big screen. One of my all time favorite novels.
@aSinnerMan7
@aSinnerMan7 5 ай бұрын
Does anyone else want to give Leto II a hug and say, "I love you, brother. It's not your fault"?
@mirceazaharia2094
@mirceazaharia2094 5 ай бұрын
I just want to thank him for doing what absolutely NEEDED to be done, no matter how bad or seemingly evil. I really like his sort of character - being ultimately moral and yet spitting in the face of conventional morality.
@nurlindafsihotang49
@nurlindafsihotang49 3 ай бұрын
Not me! I will cries "JUSTICE FOR LETTO II, LET HIM FREE!!"😢
@viridianacortes9642
@viridianacortes9642 5 ай бұрын
I kinda wish Hwi was a total accident. Instead of being genetically engineered and used against the worm king, I wish it was not part of a conspiracy or plan. Sometimes, dictatorships and evil are destroyed by the most random and unplanned things. By things outside of their control (the very thing they fear).
@TillionTirrion
@TillionTirrion 5 ай бұрын
Always my favorite Dune content, Thanks!
@NerdCookies
@NerdCookies 5 ай бұрын
Thank you for the support!!
@Ferrari308-GTSi
@Ferrari308-GTSi 5 ай бұрын
Worms need love too.
@GoldenPhil
@GoldenPhil 5 ай бұрын
i am a long time fan of your videos. But this is video is one of your top ten. I really liked your interpretation on why Leto became a sandworm and Hwi's importance to the golden path. Great job
@NerdCookies
@NerdCookies 5 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@shanenolan5625
@shanenolan5625 5 ай бұрын
I think malky was her father. But she was raised to think of him as her uncle. I noticed in one of the chapter woutes one is from a history of leto 2nd. Ten thousand anniversary edition of his death. I think her breeding pushed technology. No rooms , no ships , it was necessary for the golden path, he could let go . I like her honesty or how she was sort of mslkys opposite
@thomriley1036
@thomriley1036 5 ай бұрын
Anyone ever see that Star Trek TNG episode called "The Perfect Mate"?
@Uraniabce
@Uraniabce 5 ай бұрын
Yup! I was thinking about it too!😂
@gregsonvaux4492
@gregsonvaux4492 2 ай бұрын
I was telling my sister about the book "God Emperor of Dune" and when I got to the character Hwi Noree, she said to me: "Wienery? the woman's name is Wienery? Is that a place where hot dogs are made?" Sdaly, I never thought about the character's name the same way after that.
@titoburrito777
@titoburrito777 5 ай бұрын
She was more of the flint stone for Leto 2. I adored his love for her.
@sid2112
@sid2112 5 ай бұрын
The poor girl. Poor Duncan too.
@MackeyDeez
@MackeyDeez 5 ай бұрын
The Llaxieu were very clever when they created Hwi. They figured that if someone of Malky's calibre can gain the foundness of the God emporer. Then a woman would again his heart and mind. Just like the Bene Gesserits who plan was to create a human messiah who they can control. The Llexieu figured that they can create a proxy who they can control. If Hwi was successful in swaying Leto II; he wouldn't realize that he has been usurped until it's too late.
@sgt.grinch3299
@sgt.grinch3299 5 ай бұрын
Masterclass episode. Thanks Elaine.
@Kabayoth
@Kabayoth 5 ай бұрын
Hwi Noree. The line from Helen of Troy comes to mind. "A face that launched a thousand ships." In a way, her role in the story is quite insulting. She fulfilled her destiny to the letter. She's also written as something of a flake. Herbert had a chance to redeem her, and chose not to. She dies at the moment of the completion of her mission. This book in the series was difficult to take in. Few of the characters show redeeming qualities. Duncan is uncharacteristically confused throughout. Leto is a preachy know-it-all who surrounds himself with incompetent goons. Moneo is typical of the breed. Absolutely nothing he suggests is taken seriously (so why have him around?) The terrorists trying to bring Leto down are feckless and easily dealt with. The Fish Speakers are mindless cannon fodder. I forget her name, but the one assigned to infiltrate Duncan's trust is transparently Leto's girl for all to see. Leto never misses a chance to tell someone how wrong they are. Even when Hwi exposes the trap she represents, he tells her how wrong she is. These are not the compelling characters we've been accustomed to. The only reason Leto lasted so long is he surrounded himself with people too oblivious to notice his weakness to water. He holds everyone in contempt because he's brought lasting peace, and they have the nerve to bitch about it. His subjects loathe him because he won't stop interfering with their daily lives. Furthermore, he makes no effort to improve the society he inherited. The Scattering is the ultimate example of his failure to his disregarded subjects. In Heretics, Duncan finally returns to his own agency, but why reduce this focal character to this low point? Why is this highly intelligent Leto such a clod at the levers of power? Why kill off Hwi Noree when she could have grown her own legend? Herbert likes to talk a feminist line, but he revels in abusing his female characters. Irulan, Hwi Noree, Chani, and even Jessica passively drop away when their part is played.
@tokyo_taxi7835
@tokyo_taxi7835 5 ай бұрын
I hated Hwi. It seemed like all she did was cry.
@maxstirner6143
@maxstirner6143 5 ай бұрын
Bro, it's a book written in the 50s. It's more than feminist for it times. Lol. Too much words to whine about nothing. Lol
@southpole76
@southpole76 5 ай бұрын
Yep. somebody needs to call it out.
@tsopmocful1958
@tsopmocful1958 5 ай бұрын
​@@maxstirner6143Please check that decade.
@valentine8161
@valentine8161 5 ай бұрын
​@@maxstirner6143Dude why would that even be a good thing? Nothing influenced by feminism is ever good
@lsporter88
@lsporter88 5 ай бұрын
Moving and thoughtful commentary. Superb presentation as per usual. You're a very talented Woman.
@NerdCookies
@NerdCookies 5 ай бұрын
Thank you kindly!
@JesseRignall
@JesseRignall 5 ай бұрын
Love the lore vids, thank you!
@jerrysstories711
@jerrysstories711 5 ай бұрын
Honestly, I always thought this plot was just kind of dumb. I mean, the guy went 3500 years without falling in love or letting it affect his judgement, but they’re just going to engineer the girl that will suddenly make him fall in love? And even if all that happened, don’t you think he’d be so jaded he’d dismiss his own feelings of love as a weakness?
@neonwitch
@neonwitch 5 ай бұрын
Good job! I want to ask, what is this ambience melody in the background? It’s hypnotic!
@Despotic_Waffle
@Despotic_Waffle 5 ай бұрын
I wish there was more modern art of Hwi Noree. All art I found of her online is from the 60s
@agesflow6815
@agesflow6815 5 ай бұрын
Thank you, Nerd Cookies.
@NerdCookies
@NerdCookies 5 ай бұрын
My pleasure!
@ironwarriorkrieger4011
@ironwarriorkrieger4011 5 ай бұрын
I don't know why, but everytime I think of Leto and Hwi all that comes to mind is the song "The Longer I Live" from the Dracula musical. Idk why, it just fits for some reason.
@nurgle333
@nurgle333 5 ай бұрын
Love this channel
@erichpizer1
@erichpizer1 5 ай бұрын
great art work
@EnterTheFenix
@EnterTheFenix 5 ай бұрын
Film-only fans are going to tune in to this like... What now?
@shanenolan5625
@shanenolan5625 5 ай бұрын
Thanks Elaine did get a notification yet but saw the new upload
@patrickkinnear8625
@patrickkinnear8625 4 ай бұрын
Now that the new dune films are incredibly successful, i can't help but imagine what a God Emporer of Dune film would look like. My own limited imagination tells me that it would be almost impossible.
@NameNotAChannel
@NameNotAChannel 5 ай бұрын
I noticed upon listening through the books again, that her name, Hwi Noree is HIGHLY reminiscent of the Fremen word for the Death still... Huanui-nau. Different, but similar... and both essentially served similar functions. Was she Leto's deathstill? Perhaps.
@davidlewis8814
@davidlewis8814 5 ай бұрын
That he was vulnerable to her, or indeed, to anything, gives the lie to the whole “god” notion, no? My understanding, poor though it be, is that a “god” is invulnerable, except perhaps to a lack of faith.
@YurinanAcquiline
@YurinanAcquiline 4 ай бұрын
I think it depends on the religion. Old gods could be killed in Nordic Egyptian, Greek and Roman mythology. Abrahamic faiths tend to have invulnerable gods.
@davidlewis8814
@davidlewis8814 4 ай бұрын
@@YurinanAcquiline an excellent and erudite response, thank you, as they are rare indeed.
@tuckernutter
@tuckernutter 5 ай бұрын
It made no sense why they never made a ghola of her, as im sure Herbert would consider if he wrote book 7. She knew the God emperor in a way every single Duncan that know him couldn't. She deserved so much better than what happened.
@cedricthomas4867
@cedricthomas4867 5 ай бұрын
The bait that hooked tha Wyrm!
@madbug1965
@madbug1965 5 ай бұрын
Messiah > The Golden Path > The Scattering
@mathieuleroux9912
@mathieuleroux9912 2 ай бұрын
Some times when I think about Hwi Noree story a weard question come to my mind. If Hwi had been weded to the God emperor before their death would she had been made empress consort of the known univers or not? It doesn't seem clear. I know it is pointless question to ask, but if anybody know the answer it would be greatly appreciate if make know.
@CantankerousDave
@CantankerousDave 5 ай бұрын
Not to be confused with Lair of the White Worm.
@johndevillier2852
@johndevillier2852 Ай бұрын
The Tyrants only weakness…❤
@multimediafan6777
@multimediafan6777 5 ай бұрын
These Dune videos make the Dune lore so much more accessable 🤌
@NerdCookies
@NerdCookies 5 ай бұрын
Glad to hear it!
@bradfordreed6175
@bradfordreed6175 5 ай бұрын
They certainly give me something to chew on for my next read-through (I'm re-reading Children of Dune now).
@maxmercer1931
@maxmercer1931 5 ай бұрын
His army, the Salmon Talkers
@iceguy9723
@iceguy9723 5 ай бұрын
Good commentary though I think Herbert wasn't quite sure what the Golden Path was.
@Dariogrossi0
@Dariogrossi0 5 ай бұрын
sempre bello vedere questi video
@Biblejuice83
@Biblejuice83 5 ай бұрын
Are you going to do videos on the expanded books?
@immortan-valkyrie90
@immortan-valkyrie90 5 ай бұрын
I love the thumbnail art! Was it commissioned?
@NerdCookies
@NerdCookies 5 ай бұрын
Nope, not commissioned. It's by Gorrem aka Devon Cady-Lee
@nurlindafsihotang49
@nurlindafsihotang49 3 ай бұрын
Hwi Noree like Irulan, is wife only in name.😢 But she is far more luckier because at least she have the respect and love of Leto II and cant have physical relation because biology.... She is far more luckier than Irulan.😢😢😢
@johndevillier2852
@johndevillier2852 Ай бұрын
…he God Emperor also new Sonia was the One he had been creating in his Golden Path…🖖🏽
@Kheperaunghk7
@Kheperaunghk7 5 ай бұрын
Nerd Cookies I LIKE YOU. However Your light skinned representation of Hwi Noree is inaccurate. Both Noree and her uncle Malki were described as "dark skinned". "The God Emperor of Dune is my most favorite book of the series. I fell in love with it at 16 in the 1970's, believing if it ever gets made into a movie there would be Black Actors in those roles. Is there really going to be another, "Hunger Games" racial unnecessary controversy on this one too? WHY is this so hard to get right? Oh, I KNOW.
@kelly8107
@kelly8107 5 ай бұрын
Thank you!!! It's infuriating! Give Dark Skinned individuals their proper due!
@ThompPL1
@ThompPL1 4 ай бұрын
Nice ! . . . Herbert gave us a Key within a Key in Hwi. 🔑=> 🔐
@Davepool-hs7vr
@Davepool-hs7vr 5 ай бұрын
I wonder what Duke Leto would think of Paul since arriving on Arrakis and as well as Leto 2
@jaccat4336
@jaccat4336 3 ай бұрын
I’d like to think something really deep & existential. But in reality it probably just be WTF happened after I died!!! 🤯 Coming back to see that your son is a messiah, grandson is a worm, and your friend is a clone who dated your daughter would be…. a lot to process 😅
@Davepool-hs7vr
@Davepool-hs7vr 3 ай бұрын
@@jaccat4336 I would be like “I came back to this?”
@theSoundCarddatabase
@theSoundCarddatabase 5 ай бұрын
Thank you.
@AnnaBellaChannel
@AnnaBellaChannel 4 ай бұрын
A bit late to send him a girlfriend to become a wife when the bloke is already a God-Sandworm.
@oliverforrest4488
@oliverforrest4488 4 ай бұрын
Love destroyed him, very poetic death for villains.
@summer7603
@summer7603 5 ай бұрын
Worm love is best explained by Kirsche sounding stream
@Jetstoanywhere
@Jetstoanywhere 5 ай бұрын
THIS is how you write a good female character .
@Wavemaninawe
@Wavemaninawe 5 ай бұрын
There are plenty of well made and interesting female characters throughout the series. Thankfully, Herbert recognized that women are moral agents, whose actions effect the world around them. And hence they should be portrayed as such.
@Jayjay-qe6um
@Jayjay-qe6um 5 ай бұрын
Wish we can skip the upcoming Dune Messiah film, and just go to God Emperor of Dune.
@butterchuggins5409
@butterchuggins5409 4 ай бұрын
Man, i gawta lern howta reed
@lemecordinair
@lemecordinair 5 ай бұрын
Never understood why Herbert decided to go so far...
@ajcnini5124
@ajcnini5124 5 ай бұрын
2:33 come on 😂
@susancrandall9810
@susancrandall9810 5 ай бұрын
He had a writer
@slymongoose420
@slymongoose420 5 ай бұрын
I know this is off topic but man that xmen 97 episode was awesome can't stop thinking about Gambit.
@lawrencereid2767
@lawrencereid2767 5 ай бұрын
First 🖤 and great as always
@Stevie-L-n8g
@Stevie-L-n8g 5 ай бұрын
And it’s pronounced Chaany, not Chainey!
@crippletime
@crippletime 5 ай бұрын
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