The Case of Paul Bernardo and Karla Homolka

Time to return to Canada and we look into the twisted and disturbing tale of Paul Bernardo and Karla Homolka. They were on a rampage for years in Ontario, and were only finally caught when Karla Homolka finally turned Paul Bernardo in. But that's not the end of the story.
Patreon► / thatchapter
Twitter► / that_chapter
Instagram► / that_chapter
Reddit► / thatchapter
Merch►teespring.com/stores/that-cha...
Sources►pastebin.com/uG9F4yUG
Music►
• Music from That Chapter
Canon in D Major by Kevin MacLeod is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution license (creativecommons.org/licenses/...)
Source: incompetech.com/music/royalty-...
Artist: incompetech.com/

[@kayveeproductions2957]

The fact Karla is walking around free with children is just the most disgusting things I've seen for a while

[@alialithe1]

One word ...... Canada

[@craftycrafter1960]

Is the most atrocious failure in Canada’s judicial history to date 🤬

[@chellefell1331]

did you see she was volunteering at one of her kids schools? DISGUSTING

[@johnbrowne3950]

Women get off much easier than men when it comes to sentencing. I have no idea why. In the end, however, Homolka will pay for what she did in eternity.

[@louismichael3571]

Thats canada. Life with NO PAROLE.... for 4 years. Its BS

[@mariamalzahem7512]

The photo was removed from the coffin by police in 1993. Thought I'd share that information, since it made me feel better knowing it isn't in there any more.

[@becgould3772]

Thanks yes that information does make me feel better.

[@EverGardens]

Thank you for letting us know omg

[@dannyb4884]

Thank you

[@Zach-Fetters]

That actually is good information to have after that. What sinister foul beasts. I wonder how that woman got that deal with no remorse being shown whatever

[@rickjames5998]

why did the police remove it? Or do you mean they were authorized to do so?

[@buckfidenmd5158]

She killed her own sister with her parents upstairs. How she’s walking the streets breathing is beyond me.

[@jamie_ghosh.johnson]

Well, a accidental death. Some sauce I have read, Karla never plan to kill her. They just wanted to drug her, so Paul had their way with her younger sister So Tammy wouldn’t remember any thing, but unfortunately she died from the drugs.

[@jennifermaddy2442]

I know it's so wrong

[@bakielh229]

She deserves a second chance, stop being a bigot

[@bakielh229]

@@jamie_ghosh.johnson Yeah that's exactly it, idky people love to get riled up about this. She's simply not an irredeemably dangerous person, she did her time and she cooperated with the cops

[@jamie_ghosh.johnson]

@@bakielh229 Perhaps, she not a danger to society now. But she have no regard what she have did, specially what she had done to her sister. I don’t have any sympathy for her as she should have, got just as much amount of time as her husband.

[@kait112]

The way Karla talks in police interrogations gives me strong Jodi Arias vibes

[@jenniealtieri1471]

Because they are both monotone with no affect.

[@222222ania]

Jodi Arias's victim was a piece of shit. Their victims were innocent, young girls that they raped. Like Jodi Arias is a saint compared to them

[@nessi777]

I too had Jodie Arias vibe when I heard her speak.

[@chrise842]

Occultism!

[@laurel_cloud]

I was just about to comment the same thing!! It's eerie.

[@HellAintHalfFull]

The photo of themselves that they put in Tammy's coffin really had a *we got you and we got away with it* vibe. Absolutely sickening and it's disgusting that Karla is walking free.

[@NikkiC777]

They are real POSs.

[@icannotpretend5834]

Yes!!

[@amthatdad3450]

I found that detail particularly evil. Everything about this case is evil, but that just punctuated the atrocity.

[@horroradorer]

I feel so sorry for Tammy and karla’s parents

[@jameshopkins503]

They actually believed that they "loved" Tammy and that she loved them in the same way. They were both very sick in the head people who sadly found each other.

[@lukassrensen4788]

The fact that Karla is walking free instead of say, being burned in a trashfire, while innocent people have rotted away in jail is fucked beyond words

[@joanford9247]

I like the being burned in a trash fire part, this whole case was fucked from the beginning, by the time the cops found out how involved she was the plea deal was done.

[@randoliof]

Canada's justice system is extremely weak

[@mazadancoseben4818]

Time to call Vera Ranczi

[@thislookslikepatrick5070]

@@randoliof as a Canadian lil bit

[@doggolovescheese1310]

Agreed

[@angelaramirez4144]

Actually, Leslie's mother locked her out as a punishment for breaking curfew. Imagine the guilt the mother lives in.

[@chanajohnson4833]

Ouuuuhhh I know she blames or blamed herself

[@deathdragonslayer1]

As she should.

[@shaldana]

I grew up with parents like that, was constantly told that if I wasn't home on time, I'd be locked out, if I was drunk, don't bother calling for a ride, that sort of thing. It's a really stupid thing to do to your kids, and the latter - coming home drunk - got me in trouble when I was 17. I got drunk, so I drove to my friend's house at 2am and her parents let me in without question. They were not nice people, but in a way, were better parents than mine. I could have killed someone, AND I would never have driven drunk except I was on a blind date and he tried to rape me. And I knew I couldn't call home. People are so stupid sometimes. I was lucky. Not everyone is.

[@SueP-D]

@@shaldana I am a firm believer in parents treating their children with respect. You can’t just always demand respect with no reciprocation. Kids screw up and need direction absolutely, but damn so many parents treat their kids like sub-humans.

[@shaldana]

@@SueP-D You're absolutely right. Respect was never something I had from my parents, and I actually was a really good kid - not that they thought so. The incident I described above was a one-off. I rarely drank, and my best friend was a good kid too. My dad is dead now, my mom is 80, so this was a long time ago, but growing up in that house took nearly 2 decades of therapy to sort out, and I'm writing a book about it now actually. Respect -- so much so, and it needs to be there from the start, not later on in life. When I was around 40, my mom decided she wanted back in my life more and actually tried to parent me. It was really weird. I owned a house, had a great career, was doing just fine. I was stupid and tried to patch things up with her. She hadn't changed a bit, and she doesn't understand why I can't stand being in the same room as her for very long. You can't get respect later in life. I've often wondered what life would have been like if respect had been there as a child, and not 4 decades down the road?

[@lastfewtokes]

*5:54* This has to be one of the most impressive police composite sketches in history. How could they possibly get every detail like this just from an eye witness account? Crazy.

[@woowaptibam5253]

I was thinking the same thing! It looks like it was done on a computer.

[@gregall1448]

And they let him go. 🤦

[@c0h090]

I went to University of Toronto - Paul Bernardo’s graduation photo on the wall is burned.

[@pillcosby777]

thats dope

[@HostileAtHeart]

@Sicario Warmonger Edgy

[@ryanpercival9823]

I've seen this on campus. Can confirm.

[@ryanpercival9823]

@Sean Charles loll im not there any more. Dont look at me XD

[@sundevilification]

The same happened to their home.

[@thatsonewaytolookatit3692]

She should never be allowed to have and look after her own children! That's outrageous.

[@Lucieyk]

For a split second I thought I had a spider on my phone screen lol

[@shannalae3907]

Omg I saw your profile picture n thought there was a little spider on my screen 🤦🏼‍♀️👀☠️LOL

[@shannalae3907]

@@Lucieyk same lol that's what I said before I even saw your post lol

[@victoriasherlock4598]

Google her...it seems her husband and kids are no longer with her

[@apcometri1919]

Dammit I thought that was a real spider.

[@snapmalloy5556]

The fact that people like her walk free is why I have no problem with vigilante justice

[@williamtobin7282]

Sometimes justice comes from the barrel of a gun. God bless the victims and their familys

[@lalaj5831]

A friend of mine was assaulted when she got off the subway in Scarborough and, judging by the description, it was Paul Bernardo. Luckily her screaming attracted attention from passers by and she was able to deck the guy and get away. The truly horrific part is that when the police were called they told us “since she is not bleeding, she’s not a priority.” We had to take her to another part of the city to get the police to even take a report.

[@taraw4633]

You can’t imagine how angry we are, as Canadians, she’s walking free.

[@misterdabalina4694]

Our justice system is a joke.

[@norml.hugh-mann]

Only YALL can fix that....a well timed blow with a baseball bat..(or a hockey stick) and she at least wouldnt be WALKING free

[@john123413]

has she hurt anyone since she got out??? no,...none of it would have happened if she never met up with that psychopath.

[@justkeepbreathing1524]

Shes walking free. 2 boys and is married as far as i know. She used to be a teachers aide at her sons school when she was in south america. Think about that. She moved back to canada semi-recently though.

[@justkeepbreathing1524]

I will say. It's fairly easy to keep tabs on her though. Everyone DESPISES her.

[@jaycievictory8461]

She married her lawyer's brother?! Wouldn't her lawyer have seen the tapes of her enthusiastically taking part? Wasn't he like, Bro, NO!!!!! 😧

[@Dawe360]

Any hole is a goal is guess

[@Gromitdog1]

He thought with his other head.

[@butch420cassidy4]

Guy sounds like a real winner... What's the fucks up with her Lawyer tho... Homie, how you let your own brother marry your serial killer client.. if he dies, that's in you myy g

[@pillcosby777]

Jaycie, he's a lawyer to begin with. Not all lawyers are bad but you're talking a profession with no morals. He helped her to live a normal life again after what she did. To me that lawyer and his brother should be murdered or jailed. welcome to canada's justice system

[@jana731]

@shannon mcdonagh well seems like she doesn't harm ppl anymore so seems like she changed. Also stop being rude to him he hasn't done anything illegal

[@redlemur9074]

I love how "Ken & Barbie" were both bleaching their hair blonde, and how neither of them bear an even PASSING resemblance to those dolls. Maybe Chuckie & the Bride of Chuckie, around the eyes mostly.

[@elynorah9665]

If she's married her lawyer's brother then I have to wonder what exactly the lawyer's brother gets up to. There should be a weekly visit from probation and social services to make sure those kids are okay. You can't tell me that suddenly she's little miss changed.

[@reconranger1370]

If I am ever in Quebec and I see her, I'll definitely give her the bird. She's just as much of a monster as Paul was.

[@circedelune]

If not worse. Hard to think anyone could be worse than him, but if anyone could, it would be her.

[@kiralevenson1706]

Lol...

[@kalishiva18]

Ask how her sister is doing

[@pattol666]

Karla lives 4 hours away from my city. I still have a hardtime with knowing she has daughters and is married and does school stufgwith other peoples kids. Cause she has differe t name now.

[@brittanyarnold7958]

I kinda think she’s worse, to offer up her little sister? To be as into it as he is? He got way worse once he got with her because she encouraged it

[@Londonguy1987_]

Just a horribly depressing and infuriating case. Mike is pissed off, everyone in the comments is pissed off, I'm pissed off. 😒

[@EvylFairy]

@majooismajor And disgusted.

[@cocolime6496]

I had to put off watching this video because I knew it would upset me

[@mg4mg281]

It takes a while until all dimensions are tidied up, please be patient all assholes fly out at the end. We apologize for the delay👽👽👽👽

[@truleeblest06]

OMG! She had children too???? Damn....

[@juliuszhorst8083]

What I don't understand is why they needed her statement if they already had the crimes on tape. Can't ask for a better evidence.

[@lindseyhudson1274]

I can’t imagine being Leslie’s parents who locked her out, if they’d only left the door unlocked for their daughter she would still be alive. When you have teenagers it’s better to have a deal with them that they can call you if they ever get drunk or ingest drugs or get stranded or if they feel uncomfortable or run into trouble. Their safety is more important than forcing them to follow the rules. Teenagers, even the most obedient, can wind up in a bad situation and knowing that mom and dad will save them with minimal lecturing can literally actually save their lives. I think there are several times where having that deal with my mom was crucial in my life. Give your kids the safety net that only you can offer.

[@StrummaChick]

Kind of sad this comment doesn’t have more likes. Beautiful parenting advice. I love it a hundred times.

[@strawberryseason]

Leslie's parents were cold and not good parents. Who locks their 14 yr old kid out because the kid did not meet curfew?? They are partially responsible for her death.

[@sweetiepie3359]

@@strawberryseason you knew her parents?

[@strawberryseason]

@@sweetiepie3359 no, but I've read books on this case. Her mom would lock her out.

[@rayagray6321]

So coddle them and allow them to do whatever they want while you save them every step of the way? Yeah last time I checked that leads to spoiled kids who grow up to not know what consequences are. You should lecture them, you should tell them what they are doing is wrong and they are ruining their lives. Yes you should pick them up and save them if they need it but you also need to put your foot down. I would be locked out if I missed curfew and guess what I knew it was wrong and di it on purpose to stay at friends houses and got in alot of trouble as a kid, but I also had alot of consequences do to the choices I made, which made me learn I can't do whatever I want and I need to follow rules. Sometimes letting them fall on their a** and hit bottom is the best choice. Now I wouldn't lock my child out at 14 but they definitely would be getting punished for their stupid choices. I don't drink or do drugs and don't smoke cigarettes either. So they shouldn't. I'm not being a bad influence. This is why everyone is selfish and does whatever they want and will kill whoever they want, everyone let's their kids get away with everything including murder. Grow the f*ck up. You're not their best friend, and once they know they can get away with everything they will continue to do so

[@booooboooo2010]

The FBI's assessment was that Karla was almost overwhelmingly the person who wanted the two girls murdered and that Karla was the actual murderer killing the girls via strangulation. Paul is a monster. But also undeniably, Karla is a monster.

[@moseschrute]

Yes Paul wanted to keep Kristen longer but Karla demanded she be killed because they had Easter dinner at her parents’ house that weekend. Leslie also had to die because their wedding festivities

[@hermanmudgett8830]

Why would the FBI have had anything to do w this case?

[@Ms1up1down]

@@hermanmudgett8830 Nothing. This did not happen in the U.S.A.

[@alyssaheller7860]

@@hermanmudgett8830 the FBI studies all killers and rapists. Even killers from other countries. It was the FBI that first began studying serial killings and killers. The Behavioral Analysis unit was founded on interviewing serial killers in prison, and study every and all serial murders all over the world. Now, they get involved with and study,( purely for gaining info and knowledge of criminal minds, ) the worst offenses. Serial murders, rape, abductions and severe cases on stalking (usually, if a victim of stalking can get enough physical distance, a stalker will move on to a new target. Stalking is dangerous and can always escalate quickly and easily to violence. In rare cases when stalkers will cross long distances, the FBI will feel inclined to get involved. (Though, unless a case involves the passing of state lines or other specific criteria, the FBI has to be invited in by state or local LE who are on the case, unless the case is federal jurisdiction. But even if the FBI can't get involved directly with a case, they do study it purely for research, education, and information.

[@hermanmudgett8830]

@@alyssaheller7860 really? I wasn't aware of that.

[@keithdevlin1]

"They placed a picture of themselves inside Tammy's coffin." *Just how bad can two 'human' beings be?!*

[@georgie7647]

I pray the parents took it out once this shit show came to light 🙏

[@serioushex3893]

up until this point, i was like "Well, its pretty bad, but this is That Chapter, so its usually pretty bad.." "They put the picture inside the coffin" "....WHAT THE F..."

[@georgie7647]

@@serioushex3893 truly f*cked up

[@zariamonetwalker5147]

Wow....she should have hunted the shit out of them

[@amzznaylor2851]

That bit made me shudder, incredibly cruel

[@mortigus2878]

the photo they put in Tammy's coffin has me SOOOOOOOO mad smh rip girl

[@Sneezas]

Im not the only one! Its so sick of them...

[@annemiekvdbos]

@Leon Coombes was thinking the same thing!! I hope they got it out of here grave...

[@cagurl9113]

True sign of two psychopaths!

[@GoodestKitty]

I’m curious as to why no one at the time found that odd they wanted to do that in the first place. At that point no one knew they were twisted perverts, but still no one found it odd they were the last ones to see her alive? She never drank or shown interest in drinking prior to being with them? Then to top it off they put a picture of only them in her coffin, not even a family picture or her favorite item? I don’t know maybe their families are crazy too.

[@rosanajaquez3274]

Mortigus the photo is less creepy then how he behaved at Tammy’s funeral. Footage of her funeral was featured in an HBO documentary. He was by her coffin, touching her hair and calling her ‘our angel’. It was bizarre.

[@gratefuldreadness3249]

I never thought someone could make me laugh literally out loud while simultaneously watching Gruesome horrendous crimes. How can I not give it a goo w/ that guy

[@caeserromero3013]

He deserves 25 years for the rap alone...

[@theoneandonlyawesom1]

She ended up confessing to the murders cause in the initial interview the investigators noticed she was WEARING Kristen French’s Mickey Mouse watch. That alone should tell you she was just as sick as him if not worse. Fireside chat is horrifying.

[@yagesh287]

This has made me angry beyond words. I have changed my perception of Canada now. Even the middle east is better than a "liberal" shithole like this which lets child molesters free.

[@jude7223]

@@yagesh287 I'm sorry to break you bubble, but Canada isn't the only one. In every country there's sex offenders walking freely

[@yagesh287]

@@jude7223 The accused in court never walk freely unless the government is sympathetic towards criminals

[@jude7223]

@Yogesh babe, most murderers who had a sexual tendency were already booked for something in the past. Rodney Alcala raped a little girl, but they let him go, Alexander Pacteau tried to rape a girl before he killed Karen Buckley, Roy Withing was a registered sex offender before he killed Sarah Payne. No system is sympathetic towards criminals, but it's hard to predict which one will do something like that, and Karla managed to get the deal before they knew her full involvement in the crimes.

[@jude7223]

It is outrageous that she's walking freely, but it shouldn't change anyone's view in Canada, it happens all around the world

[@heathersealey592]

This is an infuriating case and has pissed off all of Canada since the start.

[@errornull390]

Why? This is what Canada wants for its “justice system”

[@jawusha]

@@errornull390 our justice system is a joke

[@klausfiedler64]

And yet the Canadian public doesn't seem to have the spine to demand the return of the death penalty.

[@diligaf1000]

Holly crap that composite was amazing looks literally exactly like him

[@scubasteve7207]

Mike, as someone who grew up in the area during all of this, I appreciate how sensitive you were in regards to the details of what happened to those girls, thank you respect

[@JaneDoe-rj4jn]

I’m from this area in Ontario and was 17 when this was taking place. When they drugged and raped her sister Tammy this was all done in her parents house they were staying at. The parents were sleeping upstairs when this all happened. She is completely sociopathic and all Canadians are sickened Karla is free and clear when she was just as culpable. The fact she has children is terrifying. If she was deemed a sex offender how she was allowed to keep her children I’m not sure.

[@logy650]

Yeah, the Canadian justice system is screwed ten ways to Sunday, even surprisingly more than the justice system in most of the States.

[@bibakroll8999]

Yes. Apart from the obvious, imagine what her kids have to endure when people find out who their mother is? And how do THEY view her?

[@joannapatterson4625]

Yep. I was 18 and living in Toronto then. I remember this case well. Absolutely horrifying and more so that a young woman was involved in those murders.

[@_Y.Not_]

Yes, I am from this area as well, I live 5 minutes from where Leslie's body was dumped in Gibson Lake, 10 minutes from Karla's parents home, 10 minutes from where Kristen was kidnapped,10 minutes from where she is buried and 20 minutes from their house in Port Dalhousie. My husband at the time (we were young married, I was 20) was questioned by the police in search for the infamous "Camaro" as we had one (as were many others, Paul's car turned out to be a Nissan 240SX). This affected the people here greatly, she could never set foot here again, she would be torn apart.

[@joeydepalmer4457]

children for dinner

[@kublakhan1334]

She delivered her own sister into the hands of a monster. I only wish that such a place as hell existed for her to go there.

[@guardiansanimalrescuestate7289]

It does. There’s a special place in hell for this evil.

[@FilthySoapCore]

And that photo in her coffin... that’s just sick!

[@Smallballzzz]

Aniek Scharenborg that part was like twisting the blade. It’s like taking her life wasn’t enough 🤬

[@williss1192]

Don't forget her Parents cared about her enough to 'rescue' her. I can't help but wonder how they reacted when they found out what they did to the youngest. They fail as parents as well.

[@3rd.world.eliteAJ]

@@williss1192 The only parent who failed was the father for being an abuser early on in her life, other than that they didn't "fail" anything, NOBODY can know what another person is thinking or wants to do, especially if it's killing your daughter..

[@Megs901]

“We’re moving on!” Thank you 😅 I really enjoy how you tell these stories. It’s the dry humor, the disgust and disdain you share, but also the respect.

[@hollyhayes9640]

She later blamed it all on Paul, even though she literally helped plan the murder of her sister, Tami. 🤬 Edit: for example, the drug that they used to put her to sleep (halothane) was stolen from the vet clinic that she worked at. Paul wouldn't have been able to do it without Karla's help.

[@magiccookies420]

The fact that there are innocent people in prison, people serving 50 year sentences over some marijuana, but Karla walks free just shows how fucked the system is.

[@dingo9696]

Nobody in Canada is serving 50 years for weed dummy

[@magiccookies420]

@@dingo9696 outcome may vary on race

[@dingo9696]

@@magiccookies420 show me one example

[@HoseTheBeast]

@@magiccookies420 yeah exactly stop spreading bullshit.

[@josephdale69]

Paul is now 56 and eligible for parole

[@Smashingit2022]

The picture of those two monsters in the coffin has me enraged. That and the fact they labeled Holmolka as a victim. Victim my arse!

[@SwagAli]

It's one of those cases that really makes me believe in eye for an eye justice.

[@joeycoco3261]

it's infuriating and it makes me sick that's she's walking free! i guess we all know women have more power in the legal system.

[@daytonasayswhat9333]

Some of that “patriarchal oppression” and “male privilege.”

[@reyannawynters1800]

When I heard that, I was about ready to be physically ill myself!!!! That poor child :(

[@kaceycruz3870]

She probably said that he threatened her to do all the stuff she did

[@violet640]

Mike : “ looks aren’t everything thankfully 😊, otherwise I’ll be screwed “. 😊mr. Mike - don’t you know you’re extremely good looking ! 😁😉.

[@jessicaannepaskow92]

I agree! 😘😉❣

[@chrisedwards8066]

I don't know how many of Mike's videos I've watched, but it's a lot, and this one was a truly horrifying story. However, due to Mike's story telling, his sympathy and respect for the victims and his dark humour, I got through it. Thank you Mike for bringing cases like this back into the light in such a way that they're palatable when the subject matter is so clearly NOT palatable. Awesome work as always!

[@packnetadaija]

The fact that she tried to volunteer at her kid's school.....I'm so glad everyone at that school was like nope we don't want her here

[@sarahal-e.5389]

Her lawyer's brother married her!! What a complete loser. He must be desperate.. I hope he sleeps with the lights on.. and watches his back

[@cocaineinmyvein]

"When Paul went to get us food" .... you didn't find that to be a GREAT time to escape, huh?

[@treeknome2642]

I grew up as a teen when they were searching for their white/cream coloured Camero. We were not allowed out alone and had to be home early. If allowed out at all. Was a scary time. My heart goes out to the Mahaffy’s and especially Mr and Mrs French. They spoke at our highschool a few years later. Thank you for your research on Karla “pre-Bernardo”. I have only ever heard there were no signs of any behaviour that would even suggest this happening. She grew up in a normal home is all we hear. Oh how my heart aches for Kristen French. Non of us here will ever be able to be able to get the image of her out of our heads. She was everywhere here in St Catharines. I’ve always wondered, “why her?” Breaks my heart. I wish there was more about her and her legacy than Bernardo and Homolka. Kristen was such a wonderful, kind beautiful young lady. Nothing she ever did deserved this. She is a special to me.

[@fernfreeman1729]

Each time I see anything related to those two, Bernardo and Homolka, I can't shake off the pain and guilt Leslie Mahaffey's mother must have felt then and now. That poor girl went through hell and back because she was locked out of her home by curfew. What a mess!

[@cakecakeham5823]

The photo of themselves in her coffin. That ground my gears.

[@DebTheDevastator]

You'll be happy to know that when she was exhumed her family told them to not put that, and the other things they put in, back in when they reinterred her. Those monsters do not get the satisfaction of that disrespect any longer.

[@ThomasDaBombas]

yeah that part really got to me too

[@prowlerpunk]

Yeah that was truly devastating.. Her soul wouldnt have rested peacefully at all..

[@vallove4life]

Me too......and the silence after.

[@For_The_Horde]

Happily i hear the photo was removed by police.

[@paigesteele4406]

“And this is where we beheaded the victims.... have you seen my perfume samples ? “

[@macklinillustration]

Priorities of a sociopath

[@adriandear8865]

'So he strangled her again, and i think i watched that time, i mean what the hell she's dead anyway'!!!!!!!!

[@martytruelove5026]

She is living in a Fantasy,but in reality,it's a Nightmare.

[@moseschrute]

@@adriandear8865 And in the full footage of this tour she’s still PISSED that Paul served Leslie champagne (laced with sedatives) with her crystal champagne flutes from France. No care that a terrified girl was being raped in the next room at the time. Seriously she goes on about it for a while

[@twinklorballin693]

She should have had that deal pulled as soon as those vids were found. It’s unbelievable that she only got such little time and is walking free. Love you Mike 😀

[@samuelcooper7867]

I used to go to the highschool of Paul Bernardo. His face isn't just scratched out of the yearly graduates on the wall.... His entire graduating year has been removed.

[@ckom0007]

Ugh, this was hard to watch. She should have lost her deal when the tapes demonstrated she was a willing participant. Very very sad!

[@CircumcisionIsChildAbuse]

a woman getting away with committing crimes...that almost never happens! (sarcasm intensifies) 14:48 this is quite possibly the WORST way to understand something. Denying your own capacity for malevolence by refusing to put yourself in that position and ponder why and how, you are denying your own capacity for malevolence and potentially harboring those feelings to arise at moments without your control. You control yourself first by acknowledging your capacity to do harm, and capacity to suffer. by refusing to place yourself in the position of someone who is willfully harming someone, you are completely ignoring that part of you that does exist, but remains unacknowledged.

[@BlGRED619]

That's the thing once the deal is offered you cant go back on it

[@rowanwood5397]

it's pathetic that they government would make.a deal with that. multiple aspects of this case are pathetic

[@theangrylizard1990]

A number of writers have said that, and that other later revelations should have put her in prison for longer. What this video does not mention is that her first lawyer (not the one whose brother she married) was one of the best criminal trial attorneys in Canada at the time. He was also a dog person, and had a beloved dalmatian whom he brought to the veterinary clinic where Karla Homolka worked. Karla was apparently very kind to the dog and this left a positive impression on the lawyer. This might have made him especially zealous in his defense.

[@SpydersByte]

@@BlGRED619 not true at all, like C Lee said above me. It makes no sense why they let her get off after seeing those tapes.

[@michellezimmerman8019]

This case outraged every decent Canadian from coast to coast and it's a damn big country. The fact that Karla ( now Debbie ) has 3 children of her own and enjoys a very comfortable life with her spouse is absolutely sickening. She gave back nothing and did not even have to pay by completing her sentence. She was mollycoddled in prison, protected from the chronically over-imprisoned aboriginal/African Canadian prisoners sentenced to twice the time for nowhere near the offenses she committed. Due to the incredibly high profile of her case, nothing could happen to her that would showcase how racist and classist our departments of corrections are. Now she's free, he's still upright and sniffing air, and there are still victims out there who've never received one iota of justice. Their collective crimes victimised this country. The French and Mohaffey families still have to endure their daily devastations. My heart goes out to them, and to their lost daughters.

[@pickledragonrebel]

Very well put

[@l.4231]

PREACH

[@deborahcabot3100]

Well said.

[@wendytimms4515]

Well said. As a Canadian, I know we all feel sick about the entire situation. These are 2 evil people.

[@Dentropolis]

As I understand it, she served her full sentence.

[@w.b.5369]

If you didn't know how bad the justice system is in Canada...now you do.

[@ruthlessnsavage1958]

I know this case and I avoided watching this because it’s disgusting and terrifying. I finally gave it a goo tonight, and you did a great job! Thank you for sparing the details and respecting the victims.

[@englishcountrylife3805]

I can't believe that woman is walking free. She should have got life. The same as him.

[@missbraindamage]

Yep.

[@sometimesometimenot]

Yup. They didn’t even know all the details before her deal was official... the whole thing was awful.

[@kenhaughton1142]

Hes out on day parole or will be soon. In the rural Port Colborne area.

[@sometimesometimenot]

Ken Haughton who, Bernardo? He was turned down for day parole

[@sarajenivieve3419]

She also has 3 kids...after killing 3

[@_paintedbypicasso_7981]

I hope wherever she goes she never has a moment of peace I hope everyone around her knows what shes done. Those girls didn't deserve to be taken in such a horrible way.

[@nachononna8750]

She lives in quebec. She volunteered at her kids school

[@Milkbutter]

She's a sociopath, she will never know what "feeling" anything is.

[@MyName1992]

Holy shit that composite was insane! It looked like a photo of Paul! Whoever made that up was seriously talented

[@kirkberryleo3307]

Mike I love how you research your stuff. You are very right in many ways. I’m from St Catharines and as a contractor for the gas company at that time I actually did the furnace maintenance on Doug Frenchs (Kristins parents) equipment. I also ended up getting redirected by police on my way to turn in my gas company paperwork when they found Leslie Mahaffys’ body in Lake Gibson . Karla got an easy deal… Paul will never get out hopefully

[@mijiah]

The idea that she can just live freely and have a normal life when her victims and her victims' families cannot absolutely horrifies and disgusts me. I absolutely breaks my heart for the families who are grieving but will never truly see justice for their loved ones.

[@nicolenotizieeamici]

i honestly say if i was one of the family members, especially the mother of one of those girls...she would not last long.

[@borealiswan2363]

Well unfortunately that's the way it works in this g..dd..m effing country. The criminals get all the breaks, the money, the help, dadidadida, and the victims are treated like criminals, like what happened to them is their fault and they had it coming. The police ? Too lazy

[@horsepanther]

It makes you really wonder what her own parents think of her getting off so easy, and not only getting married again but having KIDS. Those are their grandkids! Such a horrific situation all around.

[@icequeenhr7523]

@@horsepanther can't imagine what they've been through. They most probably don't think about it too much.

[@pierrearr]

In my opinion the people making the decisions about these ridiculous sentences should be put behind bars too.

[@FatLeonard84]

One day her kids will find out who she is and what she did, that should be a intense conversation

[@hayley8715]

They'll probably be as messed up as she is.

[@dr.coomer789]

@@hayley8715 yeah they'll be like, ''woo! Yeah! Rock on *mother* !"

[@bladoodyscabloody1143]

i think it should be world law that if your convicted of murder, you should not be able to have custody of children. i mean they literally let a raping child murderer go, and then said " yeah they can have some kids " how messed up is that ?

[@zabnickers]

You know damn well she will just fill their head with lies and they will believe her. Most likely think she's "innocent"

[@lollypoofy]

Hopefully this video speeds up things

[@geraldherrmann787]

oh boy, "good looks" is in the eye of the beholder.

[@elrea-lynnpeach6640]

Mike one of the reasons i love to watch you and the topics you bring up, is because how much i can see the care and compassion towards the victims and their families. You may add comedy to the way you present your topics but it's the love i see, coming from you towards the people involved. *not the assholes who hurt the victims. I can't get enough of your way that you let the world know about these animals. Keep up the awesome work. !!

[@fionaskittle]

The only thing scarier than the frequency of your uploads is the fact that you'll probably never run out of cases to cover.

[@perfectlyyoubeauty]

Underrated comment 😉

[@sint0xicateme]

Twice a week. Every Tuesday and Friday for the last 2.5 years.

[@fasteddy9505]

Great comment

[@kelliedoxiern4308]

Think about all the ones not caught that are still loose.

[@pierrearr]

@plot twist sex and crime for sure but we don't know if there will be racism in 10000 years

[@emplugee2272]

I love how she is trying to play victim now for harrassment. Like her crimes weren't worse.

[@alliecattlopez537]

No matter what, you gotta give it her...sold him out, & threw him under the bus, pointing all fingers at him....signed the deal, then they find out the real truth. They made a pact with the devil.

[@breannayn]

So many people try to use this defense now because of her. It’s infuriating.

[@garrysekelli6776]

Canada is a shytshow when it comes tö punishing murderers.

[@jessejennings3828]

Has tapes but case depends on her? I call bullshit.

[@emplugee2272]

3rrlia - Exactly

[@seashell8225]

If you actually met Karla at the school where your child goes, what would you do? Would you have to move to a new home with a new school district? Would you try to get her fired to get her away from all the children? Lord, what a mess of a woman.

[@detrajackson5992]

I cannot believe he was questioned TWICE, and they did not arrest him. He LITERALLY LOOKS JUST LIKE THE DRAWING!! The victim and the artist gave the most accurate depiction of the perpetrator that I have ever seen. Such a shame so many deaths could have been avoided by this evil demonic crazy couple!

[@kiralevenson1706]

Whoever did the sketch is a master! As if he drew him in person! Impressive!

[@ImperfectionGuaranteed]

The artist, victim, and whoever helped her recall, together did a marvellous job.

[@redrumtruecrime]

The artist is only drawing from getting the description right, I saw a documentary on YT about a police sketch artist and her uncanny likenesses to the suspect and subsequent mug shot, she even advanced the age if the suspect went on the run for decades,. The cops got their guy purely through the public recognition from her sketch. That Bernardo one looks computer generated though?? Although it can't be due to the era, weird.

[@gerry5134]

Also whoever gave the description to the artist must have had an amazing memory !

[@erikacomstock9995]

The spitting image...and the cops let him go.

[@Trrippy_Shades]

Look back at it 👀

[@whereisCarmenSandiego]

THEY PUT A PICTURE OF THEMSELVES IN HER COFFIN I just can’t get over that

[@kendrak2716]

That really disturbed me too

[@Trrippy_Shades]

so

[@ghostmyers2019]

Luckily when they exhumed her, the photo was removed by police and the family asked them not to return it.

[@thenibnetwork4638]

Pure evil.

[@aurea.]

That's some peak psychopathy right there.

[@fluffypink6unny]

“If Paul was a dog you’d put him down.” 🤣

[@robbiefryer3645]

“Forty Words for Sorrow” is the book I read when I first heard of this case and one of the greatest books I’ve ever read. Growing up in the area around this case, whenever I hear the places the book is referring to, it sends chills down my spine. Would Recommend it a million times over to anyone. By the way, fantastic video as always!

[@wildnfree101]

Paul says he made a mistake. That has to be the understatement of the whole year.

[@bruh-mb1rd]

To him, the mistake he's talking about is being caught!

[@ozosmanlitorunu]

@T Iger more like, understatement of the century

[@susanavery6760]

Damn thats the only word of sorrow he could come up with?

[@staciacarney8085]

The close-up of Mike gagging after he described the beginning of Paul and Karla's sick, depraved relationship is priceless. "If Paul was a dog, you'd put it down." Truer words were never spoken.

[@williamtobin7282]

I'd put them both down. Humanly, because I'm nothing like them. This coming from a guy who's NEVER even HIT a woman in 60 years. God Bless the victims and their family's. Ps Saw an interview with Bernardo about 18 years after his conviction and he's such an arrogant goof he wouldn't last too long if I was in reach of him..

[@remotelylucy]

my new favorite channel. this dude has amazing narration and character. binge-watching all his videos

[@aliceepalermo5047]

‘I hope the future is better than the present’. I’m watching for the first time 2.5 years later. No longer in an active pandemic but I can’t say that things are much better past Mike!

[@sarahurbanova6745]

Imagine to have mother who is serial killer. Her poor kids.

[@persephonespomegranate]

Imagine being the brother of the lawyer, knowing about those tapes and STILL marrying her?!! What the actual f-. 🤯

[@libbynone6546]

Imagine being child, knowing that your mom and her ex-husband killed your aunt. I would be scared that I will be next.

[@sepulchrums]

Have you heard about the case of Sandy Kemp? I don’t remember how old it is, but basically people believe she killed one of her daughters because the daughter confessed saying her mom killed her ex husband.

[@derekweinerttv4163]

They're just happy that she was freed cuz if she wasn't they wouldn't be alive . I know this because I am the product of an affair and I am the best looking son lol cuz my mom is hotter than his first wife

[@heathernikki5734]

@@sepulchrums yes! And took her son!!

[@Easyflux]

The fact that they put a picture of themselves in her coffin, just to remind her in death who killed her.. How sick and twisted do you have to be to do something like that.. That detail just really rubbed me the wrong way..

[@cgr8826]

It's a really sinister photo

[@pickledragonrebel]

Rightfully so

[@serenitypam1807]

yes agree that this would have been weird even if they didnt kill her....... it deserves the death sentence for them both for being so arrogant about it

[@lizwilson3609]

It shows how truly sick and a liar she is, her own sister.

[@whitedragoness23]

I do believe they wanted to continue to torment her even after death, but one of her sister was the other killer and even allowed that photo in there...her mental state is truly messed up

[@TheChristianNomad]

She regularly went out to look for victims, at least three of the women she was the one who found them, told him about them and lured them to him. She was actively hunting for victims, but barely got a slap on the wrist. I hate this case so much.

[@anniehills3580]

I was looking for this story, and realised you have more videos than anyone I watch!! Congratulations on the success of your hard work!! I like your voice, accent and storytelling style! Thank you!❤😊

[@ryanmichelle6624]

That is like the most accurate composite sketch ever lol

[@47nrubreddew]

🔥🔥🔥👍

[@eddie1808n]

Facts lol

[@LongLiveMandy]

Somebody better had given them a raise 🤣

[@Charles-ze6ge]

for reeeaal

[@echojuliet7918]

just working 7Tap on a clip to paste it in the text box.Tap on a clip to paste it in the text box.Tap on a clip to paste it in the text box.Tap on a clip to paste it in the text box.Tap on a clip to paste it in the text box.Tap on a clip to paste it in the text box.Tap on a clip to paste it in the text box.Tap on a clip to paste it in the text box.Touch and hold a cwp on pin it. Unpinned clips will be del hour.

[@Prosegoldmusic]

“ he gave his forensic...bullshit...whatever ?! “ as eloquent as always , mike bless ya

[@sallypalmer6482]

Thank you Mike for your great real crime documentaries.

[@papillondogs4297]

I avoided this episode as it was a little too close to home. At the time that Leslie Mahaffy went missing, the night of that remembrance party, one of the other kids at that party was Leslie's best friend (BF) and she was a foster child of ours. BF was the last person to see Leslie before she headed home. BF moved to a group home quite soon after this happened. She was hounded by police and by Leslie's parents as they all assumed she knew more about why Leslie was missing. It was a horrible situation for everyone involved. Leslie's favorite flower was the daisy. BF had daisies on everything she owned. She suffered greatly from the automatic assumptions made. Mike, you never cease to amaze me. I naturally followed the case closely as it developed. Still, you brought information to this video I'd never heard before. Kudos to your research capabilities! Luv ya too.

[@laboucan74]

“A pair of hotties.. apparently and allegedly” lmao the shade 😂😂

[@beerskittlez9503]

..in the shade suffering blindness N touch

[@surfside75]

A hottie eh, oh my..😍

[@acidsteve9837]

@geeralseenspeer she does look like someone who would forgive rapists if they are good looking lol

[@freelivinghippieshit]

The edits of the pictures of “Barbie” in jail as post cards and the background music is just bellissimo 👌🏻

[@melaniebrylow3900]

So weird too that she is riding a rocking horse and in a child's playhouse...what kind of prison is that?

[@nozoto]

@@melaniebrylow3900 Minimum security prison aka holiday camp. Because Canada's LoLjustice, apparently.

[@elizabethvincent1645]

This case is truly appalling, the depths of wicked depravity some people can reach is beyond words. Your presentation as always is excellent. especially as your sense of revulsion, in this case, is so justified.

[@TheCrystalBoat]

They are so disgusting. I can't believe she is free when she was as involved.

[@tatevancleve1802]

" They had a lot in common... mostly being fucked up" This guy is hilarious

[@gaseouschip8957]

Agree! The little quips he drops in his videos are amazing lol

[@TomboyGirlfriend]

Usually he's really clever in his videos but he's really killing it in this one

[@JW-vd4il]

I already heard more than I ever needed to about this case... But I knew Mike would have plenty to say about this horrendous couple and sure enough, he did not disappoint!

[@PrismanSP]

Not really, I find him very cringe

[@ohioagainsttheworld676]

i cannot explain the disgust i felt when he said the couple put a photo of themselves in her sister's casket. think about having a smiling, happy photo of your killer with you for the rest of existence.

[@ohioagainsttheworld676]

@Aleesha morton thank god, that's disgusting really

[@claudinejames7731]

I doubt G-d would be giving paul and karla any power over that innocent girl now or ever. Where those 2 monsters are going they won't be a bother nor have anything to do with harming anybody again, except maybe each other for all eternity. A bit Dante of me, couldn't help it as neither one shows an ounce of regret or even honest level of repentence for what they did. Her sister ! dasterdly.

[@graydi66y]

The photo was removed from the coffin in 93 when she was exumed to gather more evidence. She was again put to rest without it shortly after.

[@numanumantis5462]

@@graydi66y that’s good to know, I was under the impression it remained there and it always haunted me and made me angry.

[@222222ania]

killers and rapists, idk why y'all skip the rape part, dying while getting raped is a pretty awful thing and much worse than ''just'' getting killed

[@jacksonstarky8288]

I found the channel about a week ago and I've been bingeing to catch up since then. As a Canadian, this is a case that has particularly horrified me. The response of a young Paul Bernardo to the news of his paternity says to me that Paul was determined to make his mother regret ever having that affair. If Mike sees this and is looking for subjects for further videos, another Canadian case that I'm surprised hasn't received more attention on KZbin true crime channels is Clifford Robert Olson.

[@hanselmansell7555]

OMG the postcards from prison bit, I'm dead.. tell mum I went out laughing.. 🤣🪦

[@xoxoxosaidie2765]

This was one of the first case that really shock me like she really sacrifice her baby sister and is free and was able to change her name

[@chelseagirl278]

don't forget that she learned French and got a law degree in jail. Canada. ARGH

[@nataliereb4902]

@@chelseagirl278 good Lord, that's NOT JUSTICE! How awful.

[@chelseagirl278]

Natalie Reb agreed. I feel for the girls and their families

[@D-me-dream-smp]

She was completely complicit in the horrific acts and its horrendous that she has her own children when was a willing participant in taking children from their parents.

[@whitedragoness23]

She had kids, I’m sure she says oh my sister was a mistake to kill, now that I’m a mother I know how it feels to lose a kid. She is using her kids to uphold an image of being “normal”

[@karenneill9109]

My mother and I had a brief encounter with Paul Bernardo. I will never forget it. Both my mother and I instinctively sensed that there was something very wrong with him, and we only later discovered that it was him. I was a teen at the time, and it was a powerful lesson in trusting your instincts.

[@watsonspuzzle]

Tell us more!

[@karenneill9109]

jackybaby1999 My Mom and I were waiting at the GO train (commuter train) station to pick up my sister. A man walked past our car- cutting across the parking lot. He was maybe 20 feet from us. Both of us reached up and locked our door at the exact same time. We kind of chuckled, but talked about why we did that- what was it about that man that rose the hair on the back of the neck? Within seconds another man came out of the same place the first one- and it’s very unusual for anyone to come from that direction. The first man was very well kept, the second man was scruffy. We talked about why the clean cut one made us wary, but the scruffy one made us feel much safer as he walked by. He was arrested the next day. As soon as we saw his photo on the news , my Mom and I shouted “Oh my God!! THAT’s the Guy from the parking lot!”. The first man was Paul Bernardo, the second one was a cop tailing him. I couldn’t have had a better lesson in trusting your instinct. Still gives me goosebumps.

[@nessie7377]

i have seen a few people do this story...... this is the best version. well done.

[@colddripgaming]

This is one of the most 90's things ever

[@tsaristo7053]

Every time there's a new video by That Chapter, everyone in my house runs to the TV and buckles up. My parents and I are proud Ontarians (life long Scarbarians), so this case really hits home. The video was up for 20 seconds, I said "It's on Karla--" and my mum just sprinted over haha. She also never refers to this channel as "That Chapter" it's always "please put a Mike on."

[@PatriciaBenton]

"Put a Mike on" is one of the most mum things I've ever heard.

[@tsaristo7053]

@@PatriciaBenton You made her day!

[@traciemartin3785]

@Tsaristo Lol! I love it! Your mom is too cute! I feel the same way she does-"Please, put Mike on!". May God continue to bless you and your family, dear! 😊🙏

[@PatriciaBenton]

@@tsaristo7053 Awwh, she's adorable! :)

[@daytonasayswhat9333]

It’s never very good. There’s almost always a better version of the stories that he presents done elsewhere. Nothing he does is unique or original. It’s just lame rehashes of old, already covered stories.

[@kitaheard4790]

The clips of American Psycho and how you edited her pics in prison made my whole month.

[@addictlee2008]

Lauren Rogers The only good thing to be said for Him, is the burning 🥵 of his psyche as he sees Her with the new freedom and happy life, complete with hubby and baby. Truth is, that I say “ I would love to see her catch fire, with only a lead pipe to try and put her out “ Just don’t tell Paul. I would love to be the best man at her wedding

[@TheSPARTANusm]

A song so catchy, most people don’t listen to the lyrics. But they should! Because it’s not just about the pleasures of conformity and the importance of trends, it’s also a personal statement about the band itself.

[@sierralarars]

@@TheSPARTANusm would you happen to know what the song is called by any chance? I've been searching for it over a year without luck, I'd love to hear the full thing!

[@beerskittlez9503]

OMGs ..I'm MENTAL ..I THOUGHT THATS HOW SHE actually SENT out HER MAiL 😂🤣😂🤣😂 that is HELL'arious N morbid all @ the SAME TIME ..EWW I FEEL DiRTY

[@beerskittlez9503]

@@addictlee2008 🤣😂🤣😂🤣🤯

[@abbysomnia624]

I know this is a horrific story but oh my god, the edits in this video, Mike, were top notch. Especially between 20:33 and 20:56.

[@Pleiades-111]

Your videos are brilliant, Mike. Matured into professional productions over your time on here.

[@maverickblah]

As a Canadian living in Montreal, I remember all the controversy when she was released. Especially since she went directly from the prison to the Radio Canada studios for a live TV interview.

[@swweets]

With an Iced Cap if I remember right

[@bassmentier]

@@swweets yup. For the non canadians, an "iced cap" is a frozen coffee beverage from "tim hortons." Tim hortons is a coffee/donut chain (that has severely lost its charm) founded by ex hockey player tim horton (RIP) Themoreyouknow.gif

[@awesomefromallsides]

You're quickly becoming the bright point in my Fridays .. I used to go to my favorite bar every Friday, but since covid I haven't had a Friday night out in months. Thanks for being my new "Cheers"

[@ThatChapter]

I'll raise a glass to that!

[@commonsense571]

“Where you pray none of these murderers know or want to know your nayayame”

[@insonaty4230]

Agreed! No better way to start your weekend but with a new That Chapter episode and a good ol' drink. Cheers, folks!

[@brianr8581]

just go do it! How much of your life are you going to flush before you realize there is no rewind button..... ive hugged people that are supposed to be positive and guess what I lived..... should have been there to see the relief a hug brought! People treat them like they are the plague...

[@HalfdeadRider]

@@ThatChapter Dat*

[@caroline710.]

Thank you for telling the real story. It's infuriating when it's told with her as the victim and happens a lot.

[@jacobrommel3112]

Dude I love your videos man. You have a good personality for it. Thanks for the video man! 😎

[@JANDK2004]

“Did you kill Elizabeth?” Paul: Well that’s a loaded question. Um. No. No it’s not.

[@villixeb]

That cracked me up! It's only loaded if you actually killed her

[@cheeseisdelicious111]

Exactly. What a tool

[@kevindube7096]

“Define the word ‘kill’ for me, please” 🤪

[@LisA-if1ej]

@Ben Siener I think he said it more like depends on what the meaning of is, is.

[@P9rkour90]

Ewww

[@AcidRayne100]

0:45 "Looks aren't everything, otherwise I'd be screwed" Mike, you're a good looking lad, with a penchant for telling a good story. You got nothing to worry about. On the other hand, Karla is walking around, married with kids, while I can't even get a text back!

[@Blaquebarbgamer]

He is a cutie, I thought that too.

[@krisfleischer7467]

AcidRayne100 Karla is living lavish.She probably has some demented sugar daddies

[@sammymcmumma]

Mike is lovely, is he single??? My sister needs a good Irishman in her life. Just as I have! Plus a brother-in-law that I can chat murder and mystery with during boring family BBQ's ...bonus!

[@alexandrabromley947]

Agreed! Mike, you're a cutie!

[@MrSouthernlord]

When Karla stops walking around I am sure she will text you back then but I am concerned about why you are contacting her. 😊

[@itsamandaabb]

I just searched this case as it popped up on my Snapchat feed and I couldn’t be more excited Mike covered it 😂😆

[@madisonimogen1028]

Omg i love y for the delivery of the facts. Well done.