The Choice 2020: Mary Trump (interview) | FRONTLINE

Mary Trump is the niece of Donald Trump and the author of Too Much and Never Enough: How My Family Created the World's Most Dangerous Man.
The following interview was conducted by FRONTLINE’s Gabrielle Schonder on July 30, 2020 during our reporting for the “The Choice 2020: Trump vs. Biden” - FRONTLINE’s critically acclaimed election series featuring the interwoven, investigative biographies of both presidential candidates. It has been edited for clarity and length.
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[@alicat7281]

Now THIS is an example of a strong woman in 2020. Mary Trump strikes me as an honest, kind, and humble lady.

[@NLC519]

Hahahahhah😂

[@SirJohny5]

Haha yah right this lady is irrelevant

[@aaronseet2738]

Summary: Parenting matters.

[@cmhockey6586]

Your children's peer group has more of an influence of them than their parents

[@anovemberstar]

i reckon she became a psychologist to make sense of the utter madness present in her extended family ....

[@elik.webber1514]

With the History of the family ,you would think there wasn't any honesty or integrity ,then Mary talking about her dad shows up. A beau. lady that is very brave to be talking about Growing up in the family and The Donald and Grandad .

[@erincaitlin1655]

Yeah like getting a bouy to someone drowning in total dysfunction ...

[@bobgorbould8989]

Thanks I 8oooooooooooooxoooooooooooooooooooo9o the point is I just? I

[@smeyer9507]

Mary is a real person. She's not phony, or a liar. I read her book, as soon as it came out, and I could relate to her, as a person. Really enjoyed the book, hope she writes another one.

[@calicocritterscrafts886]

I was raised by a narcissist and abused. I have compassion and empathy. There isn’t an excuse for the way Trump behaves. It’s a choice he made and continues to make

[@irobu]

His kids seem to like him. I have a lot of nieces and none know of them know me like a daughter. This lady sounds disgruntled as hell...i mean even if i have something negative to say about an uncle I keep in the family n not public. She's very astute n capitalizing on liberals with her book...gotta give her an A as a business person.

[@tru_kru_bahbee24]

Right. Turning into a narcissist after being raised by one is like a hit or miss. One can be completely disgusted by the narcissistic parent(s), or admire them and fall in their footsteps. Many times, it is the "golden child" that becomes narcissistic, due to such deprivation of emotional support, coupled with a false sense of love and affection only when it comes to the most superficial of things ( i.e being praised for accomplishments, looks, etc.) When you factor in the blatant entitlement and lack of proper rearing from the parent, this creates the perfect storm to produce a self-centered, emotionally underdeveloped being that only places value on things that lack substance/depth. The scapegoat child, however knows early on that something is terribly wrong, totally resents the narcissistic parent, and is motivated to become everything that the narcissistic parent is not. In Mary Trumps family, Donald was the golden child, while Fred (Marys father) was the scapegoat child.

[@caoimhin61plunkett52]

@@tru_kru_bahbee24 I think I was the scapegoat. In fact now I know I was all these years later and was so for many years - even as an adult. It's insane. But I abound with compassion and empathy. I was abused by a priest too and then later in life when reporting but it was seeing the priest as a child and realising what it had made of me that helped me get over it. If I think of him as a child I see him differently. I feel for him. I am not sure it's 'choice'. I sensed immediately from him he had suffered as a child and has never gotten over it. I think he is very, very lonely. That is not excusing just thinking out loud after hearing Mary. I don't think many of us get perfect upbringings. I don't think it's up to someone else in the family to be judge and executioner. I am not in any way a supporter. But hearing this gives some context to his humanity. We were all children once.

[@whygohome172]

@@irobu those who have suffered narcissistic abuse are encouraged to EXPOSE IT.

[@irobu]

@@whygohome172 yeah while making millions. This lady looks disgruntled....depressed...PTSD...n unhealthy. It's sad what happened to her father n maybe coming out of the closet was tough....i just know she loves prime time 📺

[@a2zin125]

The most articulate, intelligent Trump I have ever listened to.

[@henryhill3778]

Widen your horizons and Wake up.

[@a2zin125]

@@henryhill3778 Do I wake up first then widen my horizons, or widen my horizons then wake up oh you wise sage?! A clown lover (voter) is incapable of assessing other people's depth, the circus is closed. Go home!

[@kathyellis6533]

I totally agree she is so interesting and intelligent. She has thought everything out so well and totally has Trumps personality down.

[@francedarc1634]

Im sure Mary was born intelligent, but she is articulate because she earned and worked hard for all HER achievements; NOT GIVEN to her like they were to her Trump relatives. Parents ruin their kids when they make things too easy for her children.

[@Sadness57]

Stop. You goon

[@TheSt0nerprincess]

Mary's book is absolutely amazing. Finished in one day and I cannot describe how much detail was used to describe such a horrific family.

[@joyced5953]

Please research what she said in the book because most of what she wrote is not true about Trump and his family. She is a very greedy woman and wanted money. The reason her father was not invited to the wedding was because Fred Trump Jr. her father, was an alcoholic and refused to come clean even when the Trump family tried to help him.

[@jennifer60515]

@@joyced5953 It’s time to be deprogrammed. He is a snake oil salesman, a demagogue and a traitor to this nation, STILL praising a monster like Putin after he invaded Ukraine. Furthermore, he is a race baiter and he divided this country to an extent that I have never seen in my lifetime. It is going to take YEARS to undo all of the horrors and atrocities he committed while in office. Please let him go, he is a LOSER and he never gave a damn about you or anyone else. The make America Great bullshit was a ruse he used to gain the trust of the people who see him a savior. To the contrary, ma’am, he is the devil. Allow him to fade into obscurity where he belongs.

[@johnbolton2149]

Took me 3 days I think. Don’t book-shame me.

[@lesliegoodman-malamuth9796]

@@johnbolton2149 Not at all! Good on you for being a reader! 😊

[@kenbranaugh8251]

Most families are pretty horrific

[@Jackson_Roch]

Mary is a well rounded, educated professional doctor. She has nothing to hide. Thank you Dr. for shedding important and much needed light on this situation. You were not malicious in your writings. I made huge strides in understanding the illness one might have in a non speculative way.

[@dianad3080]

Agree with your comment. Her book was enlightening and I also didn't feel that she was malicious in her writing. Compared to other books I have read about Trump by people who have observed him as President and were revealing the 3rd side to a story such as Jim Comey's book and investigative reporting such as Bob Woodward's first book titled "Fear". She gives a more personal perspective to Trump the person and his actual childhood that explains a lot as to why he is the way he is. Having said that, all it did was confirm my thoughts that he was/is a bully, selfish and narcissistic and her book shed light that he pretty much got it honest from Fred Trump who definitely doesn't get any "Father of the Year" or "Role Model" awards. It didn't change my opinion of him as I'm still disgusted, but the book help shed light for sure. At some point people have to deal with childhood issues and Trump's pride and ego doesn't allow for him to acknowledge that he is wrong about anything and he literally has the compassion of a robot. I've always viewed him as first and foremost a threat to our national security and the NYT reporting recently confirmed I was right in worrying about that for the sake of our country.

[@nannettenerenberg9267]

You have turned the corner for the American people. Personally, your lead and the many who followed, has helped my own personal health and my well being. Being in therapy most of my life, I understand your Uncle's behavior, the madness he carries around by reason of his beginning, it always starts at the beginning, doesn't it? I am very sorry your father was a recipient of this madness. I am very thankful that you like me had the inner strength to break the patterns and rise up to see the light. You may not see it every day but when you do, it shines especially bright upon you! Thank you!

[@skontheroad2666]

@@lifesabeach3424 You are 100% correct. And what is worse is that no one even bothers to look into Mary's past legal battles and the fact that she has already sued the family. And lost. It puts a whole different perspective on everything she says, writes and does. She certainly hasn't done all of this--write the book to enlighten the world, and then go on a worldwide book tour, giving interviews to anyone who will listen (and write a check)--simply out of the goodness of her heart. And considering the world we are living in, her publishers didn't even have to pick and choose which cities to go to and what interviews to do. With Zoom she can says yes to everything! The upside to 2020--win or lose--she is laughing all her way to the bank!

[@kathleent6653]

@@lifesabeach3424 She has no reason to lie she’s an educated, accomplished woman and that’s why Trump doesn’t like her ,she knows the inner workings of the Trump family and she tells the truth. He doesn’t like that he can’t control her! That’s my take. you see how he treats people that go against him in anyway.

[@misstmemrs]

Donald trump actually discusses negative things and very straightforward about it.

[@catherinegaehwiler7550]

She is very insightful and I appreciate her honesty. I think she is generous to share her family dynamic so we can understand Donald’s bizarreness. She’s helping us get a fuller picture of what we are dealing with.

[@purplenights1]

How can she be "insightful" since she has had little to do with the President since he has been in office? She is a sad case of a jealous woman who did not get a role in this administration, and this is her way of getting back. And you know the Trump family will never forgive her for this betrayal of family, and she will always be considered an outcast from this day forward. She is just like these stupid 20-plus some women who have claimed the President sexually molested them in some way. They quickly faded away when they found out that their claims were basically ridiculed. And this is how people will look at Mary Trump and her "tell all" book, as a scorned family member who was not invited to participate in the Donald Trump administration. I'll bet she would have been first in line had she been asked.

[@danmenzel7229]

@@purplenights1 . Most of Trump's crimes are in the public record.

[@KLeClerc13]

@@purplenights1 you need help.

[@elizabethardrienna8577]

Cassandra Stornoway Rolling my eyes after reading your nonsensical comment. I think your brain is dead literally.

[@margaretirish705]

People are saying, "How can she be insightful" ?? -- she says herself she spent a lot of time in the house/ with the family when she was younger. You can know/observe/hear stories about your family without necessarily seeing a lot of them in recent years.

[@spoda81]

I could listen to Mary all day she has such a calming voice articulate, well spoken thank you Mary for your courage.

[@beaugoss4833]

Why she refuses to be interviewed by people other than one's that hate Donald Trump?? Also ain't it a coincidence that she not only has a problem with Donald but the Entire Trump clan? Ya'll wrap your head around that for awhile

[@spoda81]

@@beaugoss4833 ok trumpy

[@beaugoss4833]

@@spoda81 WTFK EVER BUT I'M RIGHT

[@williammotsko8151]

@@beaugoss4833 troll.

[@kevinwasserburger3119]

@@beaugoss4833 It's not complicated. The entire trump clan, with the exception being Mary here, are exceptionally terrible, vile humans, who are objectively awful.

[@notabene7381]

To paraphrase George S. Patton, "We have elected the wrong Trump".

[@SurprisedBuffalo-ug3rf]

Love her!!!!❤❤

[@catherinekittykat]

I ALWAYS love listening to Mary. She says so many things I think and see. And I also have felt the same way about TOXIC POSITIVITY, said so perfectly by Mary.

[@gailmarie65]

Love listening to Mary

[@celticman1909]

As long ago as the 1980's I recall Trump expressing a desire to be President. Because Trump is a severe narcissist, and the Presidency is the epitome of masculine executive achievement in our society, Trump always felt he should have it.

[@lovely-mk4rt]

Insightful 🕊 I would love to have the brilliant beautiful woman as my neighbor and friend. Kindness and honesty is what I intuitively believe when listening to Mary 🌺

[@rekunta]

Aloha

[@rebekahcuriel-alessi2239]

Yes. She absolutely radiates true self love and acceptance having taken the "hero's journey".

[@HollowayIP]

She's in full possession of all the answers to questions the whole world has right now. We need this woman right now.

[@sjenner76]

I think it important to note that Mary Trump’s perspectives and fears aren’t stated as being ideological or political. They are stated personally, based on her personal experience and professional experience dealing with people like President Trump. I would also note that so much of what she says mirrors what other people who personally knew President Trump have related, even old friends and allies who suddenly found themselves on the wrong end of this or that perception, and had concerted efforts by the President to ruin them. Speaks for itself.

[@frederickweeksjr.1189]

FACT

[@butchlane4609]

Except Mary Trump actually has the professional credentials to back up her assessments.

[@frederickweeksjr.1189]

@@butchlane4609 FACT

[@sandeannabeckker6788]

@@butchlane4609--FYI, Mary Trump is no doctor. She had no medical degree of any kind. All she did was take some mental health courses when she was in college.

[@janellejulianajoy]

@@sandeannabeckker6788 She' has a Ph.D. in Clinical Psychology, you don't an M.D. for that.

[@RoyAH.]

Frontline: Always some of the best journalism. Thank you.

[@RoyAH.]

Karen Byrd: You need to be more positive.

[@sheilamichaud9945]

All lies

[@RoyAH.]

@@sheilamichaud9945: Yes comrade - wink, wink.

[@RoyAH.]

@Karen Byrd: LOOK! The Country won! Whoot, whoot! Let’s see if baby trump can see himself to the door.

[@davinathorne5215]

@@RoyAH. I think it might need a couple of Marines to carry him out.

[@Ndeye-hu8ou]

You father is proud of you for clearing his name. As new Yorkers that's all we heard and knew "an alcoholic looser". Far from it.

[@cocomajoko1]

Mary’s dad had a disease called alcoholism

[@mikesmith6267]

.......That's funny because I'm a New Yorker and I have never heard Trump call his brother an "alcoholic looser" as you say, nice try lying though.

[@HUNDREDACREWOOD.]

@@mikesmith6267 So, because YOU never heard it, nobody else has ? You Trumpers are so pathetic. I assure you, she knows Trump far better than you THINK you do. Nice try lying though... Get a life, Chump.

[@TheTeknoDiva]

I was born/raised in NY, and my family (except for my Mother, who I am embarrassed to say. Supports him), knew the rumors about Fred, what Dinald and Fred Sr. Did to. His oldest son. They are terrible people. I want to vomit, thinking ANYONE would vote for this satanic individual.

@@mikesmith6267 -*loser

[@loumartinez9692]

i appreciate the composure she exhibits while discussing her own father’s life which is clearly something that troubles her. u can almost feel the pain conveyed on her face. she is so brave.

[@Deenique16]

Honest too

[@csa1435]

... Indeed, you can 100% feel it. The historical roots with this family is beyond mental. Extremely extremely deep beyond comprehension ... the mental putting one against each other, the sad dysfunction of it all.

[@sheilamichaud9945]

Exactly she is troubled! Deeply troubled! And miserable! She's a horrible person. Trump should sue her for slander! She was a child when her father died. She doesn't know a god dam thing he was feeling or thinking . Give me a break

[@tracer740]

@@sheilamichaud9945 - You're already broke in an intellectual developmental direction.

[@midsummernight2009]

@@sheilamichaud9945 ohhh and you know more about her family than her. She also is highly educated in the field of psychology, she even lectures at the university. What can you bring to the table and dare to bad mouth her??

[@tatianadentremont-selesky670]

If you understand the unique dynamics of narcissistic families with predatory tendencies this makes perfect sense, otherwise, this is outside of the possible and real.

[@ronaldo19832]

Tatiana d'Entremont-Selesky i grew up around few of these individuals and you are right. Hard to understand for the average person

[@ronaldo19832]

Jason Henley it's worst when they grew up with money vs if they make money in their lifetime.

[@MartineReed]

@Jason Henley Dumb troll.

[@zefft.f4010]

The "toxic positivity" of Fred Trump is a good metaphor for the "toxic exceptionalism" of the modern American national consciousness. I guess that's why Donald Trump appeals to so many.

[@shannon9780]

If ever there was a “perfect” recipe for making a chronically depressed person who is left with no other outlet other than to self-medicate with alcohol or anything else, Fred’s story and the story of his siblings is that. Mary is so brave and her resilience is inspiring, along with her ability to take something so very personal and painful and be able to see it from an objective case study shows incredible strength. She shows us the importance and what it takes to break cycles that are toxic or negative in our own families; sit down, deal with the emotions to where you can separate yourself from them and do what you can to understand each side without thrusting blame on those involved and removing responsibility from same. Way to go Mary! Loved the book!

[@carolross1517]

Just finished her book. Very disturbing and sad. Really felt for Mary ......both her, her brother, mother and father treated so horribly. She is very insightful and wise....and brave.

[@laraoneal7284]

Ross Carol I totally agree.

[@helenaleahy9396]

She did this for the 💰,hope it makes her happy!

[@carolross1517]

@@helenaleahy9396 she did it to show why Donald Trump is the highly disturbed malignant narcissist that we know him to be. Very illuminating read. Her brother, father and mother as well as herself were treated very badly by Trump and his siblings. And if she makes money off this book....she deserves every penny. Unlike Trump who used his father's fortune to make himself look like a success. Total fraud.

[@elizabethardrienna8577]

She is greedy and crazy because money has blinded her consciousness.

[@cocomajoko1]

I love her book a must read. Explains a lot

[@joselrobles875]

Thank you thank you so much for your work Mary

[@Nonameforyoudangit]

Very much appreciate her straight talk. She doesn't pull any punches.

[@Jupiter_Crash]

Alan Lusk - Ad hominem attacks just tell us you’ve got nothing to add.

[@DeRussellMasina]

I'd rather her be the Trump in the oval office!

[@BruhWhyDidTheyChangeThis]

Kewl Khid that’s not really saying much

[@christiansoldier77]

Nonameforyoudangit A lot of what she is saying is a complete fabrication. Use your brain . How can she have all of these insights to how her grandfather thought??? She just wrote the book to make money.

[@lesliegmn3927]

@Christian Soldier Mary is the oldest grandchild and had far more exposure to her grandparents than anyone else.

[@felixcat4346]

What an awful family.

[@pavelow235]

Pot meet kettle.

[@aslanjudah33]

Because yours is perfect.

[@shonaharris9328]

My heart felt sad listening to Mary about this family. Very sick family.

[@punchcat0736]

@@aslanjudah33 you speak volumes of yours

[@NYCOPERAFAN]

She is the only surviving member of it who can be considered any sort of human being.

[@gingernightmare9152]

Thank you. Mary is it so hard to suffer in the immediate family. I can appreciate your sacrifice to break the silence.

[@etcetraetcetra3173]

I just realized, Mary T. explanations of her family situation, in this video particularly, is like like having a free lecture on NPD and it's impact on family dynamic, and how it shaped the personality of it's member. Brilliant.

[@catherinekittykat]

I feel bad that Mary has to keep repeating herself so much, trying to help save us from more danger. Yikes! Grandpa was a monster and created a bigger monster. Thanks for all you are doing!

[@denisemarie7991]

I just read a story about trump picking up junior at college, said he was tasking him to a major league baseball game. He knocked on junior's door and he answered it wearing a yankees jersey, trump smacked him in the face and told him to put on a suit and meet him in the car .... yikes. His roommates witnessed it.

[@notabene7381]

To paraphrase George S. Patton, "We have elected the wrong Trump".

[@catherinekittykat]

@@notabene7381 Totally Agreeeeee!

[@Sadness57]

She has zero facts or basis on her Russia allegations

[@denisemarie7991]

@@Sadness57 this whole russia situation is confusing. However, Trump does have connections to russia, and they seem to be shady. Indirect money laundering for sure from before he was president. Either way, trump is the KING of accusing with ZERO proof. THE KING.

[@perezfecto]

It always amazes me how much of our self is carved by childhood/ parents/ upbringing.

[@RWSCOTT]

refreshing to hear someone call the power of positive thinking an awful book

[@xino_z]

@Christian Reyes that's not a very positive thing to say to another human being

[@truth9133]

Toxic positivity is actually cruelty to those who are in pain

[@corryjookit7818]

You might wish to not comment about "toxic positively " as this is surely best described by a survivor of this . Even Mary keeps to the edges of this topic. My Mother was a Narcissistic Personality Disorder person. . A living hell in a real life.

[@corryjookit7818]

Mary, I'm leaving this comment as I was brought up ( sort of ) by a Mother with NARCISSISTIC PERSONALITY DISORDERED PERSON . I had quite a lot of abuse from this woman. She never stopped or wasted the opportunity to brag about the Facts and to remind other people who came her way, and who could change the conversation around her to become about her. This even happened with complete and totally ignorance of the people, and she became an expert. EG My My cousin who stayed on at school to obtain a better job, got a Summer job in a Lawyer's office. This would completely change to become, that my cousin was working in a Lawyer's Office, practically running it, as she finished up the last bit particularly because the people standing by to go home, were making it obvious they were leaving. I think I got upset when taking all the pieces and placing them together. She ieft me in such an uncomfortable and unwanted way.. A secret response began to ferment inside me. It wss awful.

[@rwnbus]

Watching this at 4AM. Surreal, speechless, goose bumps and all that. Such an amazing interview that I couldn't take my eye off. Thank you so much.

[@danishbiochem]

It’s takes guts for a family insider to spill the beans. I believe her more than CNN or anything.

[@plunderpunk2]

@Dave White LAZY rebuttal... all it takes is DERP.

[@mythoughts2649]

Eye witness.

[@llc1976]

She has her dad's eyes, pretty grey blue. Grateful for her writing and speaking.

[@earlefelkins5511]

And we still do despise him.

[@lelandlee5008]

AND YOU REALLY DON'T KNOW WHY...OTHER THAN YOU HEARD HE'S THE BOOGIE MAN...YOU JUST HATE THE MAN YOU DON'T CARE ABOUT AMERICA IT'S ALL ABOUT HIS PERSONALITY HE'S NARCISSISTIC YOU DO UNDERSTAND WHAT THAT MEANS...HE REALLY DOES WANT TO BE THAT GUY WHO SAVES AMERICA BECAUSE COME ON AMERICA IS SO MESSED UP FROM THE POLITICIANS WHICH HE IS NOT...A BUSINESSMAN AND WHAT'S THE WORLD AND AMERICA REALLY ABOUT BUT A BUSINESS...I TELL YOU THIS I PRAY THE LIBERALS WHO WANT CONTROL DON'T GET IT I'AM SICK OF BOTH SIDES HONESTLY

[@tonitalas1757]

Despite

[@patriciaduffymusic3584]

Wonderful, Mary. So illuminating. I'm very sorry for the painful life your dad experienced; this is where my heart hurts for you. He deserved a happier life. Your despicable uncle deserves zero space in my brain, other than to rejoice when he leaves the White House. I wish you and your loved ones joy and peace of mind through all this, and I commend your courage in sharing this story. Love you.

[@Mel-tw6qv]

Dang, some people should not have kids.

[@arvindjain169]

Thank you Front Line +PBS) for plain and uncompressed interview

[@m.trevino9830]

Thank you for your insight!

[@tootsla1252]

She makes the last four years make sense.

[@marionkidwell3196]

Yeah, what part, the lowest gas prices in forever or maybe low unemployement or taxes. Or how about a secure boarder. Maybe it is the stepping up of actually taking down the child traffickers.

[@diannediamond8643]

I hope she gets the millions she was cheated out of as a teen. I so appreciate the very important book she wrote to understand the despicable man in the white house and his despicable children.

[@jeanreynolds1425]

Not possible, Dump owns 421 million in loans. The Ds should make her a go page, so she will get some justice from all the money he stole from her and lost.

[@skontheroad2666]

So, everyone in the family is despicable apart from her??

[@triplethreatcga2358]

The fact that Mary feels cheated out of Millions explains why she hates President Trump.

[@skontheroad2666]

@@triplethreatcga2358 100%! I personally am going thru a family legal battle over a smaller amount ($1.4 last time I checked. Which was before Corona), but enough to piss me off. And it has been 7 years, but I still think about all the reasons that the others should not have control over the money, and it eats at me day and night. Especially as the person who wrote the will (who has clearly passed) is not here to make it right, which she could--and would!--after hearing just one statement. I understand why Mary is angry, but the entire country does not need to be part of her own personal anger and trauma. It is ridiculous and absurd. And most of it are probably either lies or just misconstrued truths about Trump. They should not affect our election, no matter when her agent decided to publish the book!

[@kathypiazza7228]

jean reynolds exactly- where would there be any $$ if he is so broke unless he is forced to sell Trump Tower, Mar a Lago , the family mansion called Seven Springs near Bedminster NY. Most of the other condos & hotels or commercial buildings are either paying for TRUMP signage on a building he has zero ownership of, others he owns a small percentage or units that he rents to tenants. He may have to sell off a multitude of property to pay Mary & her Brother & to pay back the $72 million to the IRS & the loans coming due in the next few years. He may end up absolutely broke!!

[@christopherjohncampbell2594]

Its always interesting what Mary Trumo has to say . I believe she is being very genuine and measured .

[@elizabethcunicelli7023]

Thank you Mary....very informative and I understand your uncle much more now and he is a deep threat to our democracy. Vote him out!!!

[@saardfetner8620]

To be a leader, you can't be washy wishy-washy.

[@toorjatoorja2388]

Most importantly she's a clinical psychologist.

[@SuLuNa143]

A really important point I believe. We trust them to prescribe our Xanax.

[@copley1992]

Which doesn't mean she is correct about views on events when she was a child without those credentials. Don't get me wrong, I am NOT for Trump. I believe he is damaging our country in a horrible way! I am glad she is speaking out with her personal views.

[@wryckingbaul8612]

You're a dummy, Su. Psychologists don't prescribe medication. Jackass.

[@mp-pb5ck]

106,000 clinical psychologists in the USA, in addition to 6% of college students in the USA receiving degrees in psychology. Considering this, likely difficult upbringing around her troubled father, her obvious distaste for her family / Trump, and biases she holds, her background does not necessarily signifying her having absolute insight let alone any implication of omnipotence.

[@Wall2000x]

Pointing out Toorja, that Mary has a degree in clinical psychology, she is not a practicing psychologist in New York. She does not have a license, which is telling. She also recently went to court to sue her uncle over her inheritance, all comes down to greed and money. Sour grapes.

[@irmaknight2573]

Please share this video with family and friends....People need to know the truth.

[@catherinedonnelly1025]

I wish it were that simple ...my brother will just say it’s fake news etc I must admit that he is in a cult & It’s just too exhausting for me to deal with cultists !!! We are in dire need of a Deprogrammer I’m so hoping that Joe Biden will be that for America 🇺🇸

[@ARichardP]

12:34 “Everything’s great, he’s always right, nothing’s ever bad. And it’s this toxic positivity that completely elides this entire realm of human experience and emotion but that also puts up a barrier to facing things that need to be faced if they are counter to his preferred narrative.”

[@christopherh5672]

Mary is amazing I have to say she is soo intelligent, calm and has values complete opposite of that toxic family. Her poor dad

[@Frenchylikeshikes]

I find it interesting to hear about her dad. He seemed like a nice guy for what she says. I don't think being a pilot is a failure at all, but what do I know.

[@mythoughts2649]

Gaël Hervé hiking&birding He sounds like a decent person.

[@pattymccollim8847]

Mary's Dad was truly a great person - look at her!!! Unfortunately he accepted the family's disfunctional belief system and lies. Mary's Dad was the scapegoat. Cruel evil people choose an enlightened people to abuse, not people who is similar to him/her self.

[@lesliegmn3927]

Being a TWA pilot was top of the heap for airline employees at that time. My mother had been a TWA “hostess,” as they were called, and I grew up in a neighborhood near LAX that was heavily populated with active and former airline folk. So Freddy’s career choice was most unfortunately viewed with scorn by his father and brother Donald. They were about the only ones at that time who wouldn’t have said, “Wow, TWA,” impressed, at that time.

[@triplethreatcga2358]

@@lesliegmn3927 No reason why any airline pilot can't retire a millionaire. As airborne heavy equipment operators, they make BIG money for very little actual work. Outside of the takeoff and the landing, it's time to kick back and chit chat and talk about investments.

[@Virgocygni56]

if to be a pilot could ever be considered to be a failure then one shouldnt buy an airline ticket... According to the donald mentality would Neil Armstrong be a failure? Fact is :( and not in an alternative way) that the trumps supporters have anabled a Psichopath So you trump supporters do not find excuses you like the trumpism in yourselves because you are part of this failure

[@jesseparaguya5544]

You are okey Mary. You are so honest and truthful. The exact opposite of your uncle.

[@davidcopperfield-notthemag397]

'When he realized he got away with EVERYTHING...'

[@soozeelaw5057]

I never had a doubt she embellished anything. I once dated a guy, who's sister said to me," my brother is a nice guy if you can get past his selfishness.". Needles to say, I couldn't get past it. My point being,this is his blood telling us exactly who he is and where he came from. Believe it!

[@DrumToTheBassWoop]

It’s like entering a contract.

[@jw362]

Fascinating interview. A thoughtful, intelligent, educated family member describes Trump, the scattered, aimless, bombastic poseur.

[@jw362]

@R M if that’s the story you have to tell yourself-but underneath you know the truth: Trump is toast!

[@ltlwatcher]

She has better vocab than Donny's.

[@pan-semitistcommunist4181]

@R M he's a politician but that's about the only thing in your comment that's true lmao. I wonder what average IQ scores look like on the political right...

[@sheilamichaud9945]

Boy do got it all wrong!

[@TheaterPup]

Mary is awesome, especially in the way she stands up for her father, who was clearly a far better man than Donald ever will be.

[@lesliegoodman-malamuth9796]

I grieve for Fred Trump Jr., a man I never met, for being a kind, generous man whose friends and children treasured him, who died too young-all alone. His parents stayed home from the hospital that night, and brother Donald chose to go to the movies!

[@6214silenttt]

She’s very articulate compared to Trump who can’t put two sentences together. I wonder what happened there.

[@melbatoast667]

She had the good fortune to not be raised by Tr*mp.

[@Mrs.TJTaylor]

6214silenttt Donald Trump’s speech pattern is very typical of psychopathic persons. It’s “word salad”. When Trump speaks, he’s trying to keep from revealing too much and at the same time trying to figure out what the listener wants to hear.

[@JeffreyGillespie]

Trump is deliberately inarticulate. It's part of his spin.

[@Mrs.TJTaylor]

Jeffrey Gillespie Plus, he’s dumb as a doorknob and apparently content with the fact as he won’t do the work necessary to become a better informed person.

[@signalfire6]

He was more articulate years ago. He's showing the signs of Adderall and stimulant abuse as well as barbiturate use (to sleep); he also only supposedly gets a few hours of sleep a night. Showing signs of dementia, as well as his underlying lifelong psychopathy.

[@jahbrown14]

Explains why Donald's favorite words are great, fantastic, tremendous. His dad really did a number on him.

[@wintergoat1]

Thank you for sharing. Keep doing what you are doing

[@marcwampach4097]

Mary shows Donald as a real human being. She explains beautifully how Donald's family was sheer hell for the children.

[@1991jdclark]

Her family is very much like my family. My mom and dad saw me and my sisters as pretty enough to catch good husbands, .We didn't need an education that was for our brother. We would get husbands. Refused to pay for our post-education and threatened to dump us in foster care if too difficult. They were not rich but well off. This was in the late 80s mid 90s.I don't think most people in North America understand how many families of means and some prestige treat their daughters like chattel. I never understood how people immigrate for a better life but don't want the same for all their children

[@maijaliepa119]

💙🙏💙am so grateful for this interview💙🙏💙ThankYou💙🦋💙BlessingsBlessedBe💙🗽😷

[@betsystewart9786]

I Trust Mary Trump

[@christopherjohncampbell2594]

Thank you for writing this book Mary . I am not an American . I am Scottish . But over here we are watching with concern as this run up to the Election rolls out with Trump’s behaviour getting more and more extreme . He is never going to admit it when he loses . Its all going to get really ugly and I predict T will insight his base to take to the streets and be violent . All v worrying .

[@TheAnn2shoes]

Phew! Just read our comment and how right you are about 'taking to the streets and violence'!

[@StoneColdFox17]

I come to you from the future to let you know you spot on predicted that one!

[@teresalegler2777]

So admire Mary Trump’s perspective on her family history. Great conversation. Thanks for this interview.

[@zachcloutier3111]

I love Mary Trump she's so down-to-earth and such a nurturing woman!!! Like I say all the time I'm really thankful and really proud of myself for supporting Hillary Clinton in 2016!! I really wish that she would be our current president right now with Tim Kaine!!! I definitely miss Barack Obama as president so much. He has been such an inspiration to me since 2008 when I was 12-13 years old!!! I miss reasonable, thoughtful and calming leadership!!! I'm really hoping that Joe Biden and Kamala Harris win in November to abolish QANON, to dedicate the memory of RBG and to keep Barack Obama's legacy that he worked so hard at, I'm really hoping that Joe Biden and Kamala Harris win in November officially!! Elizabeth Warren, Eric Swalwell, Bernie Sanders, Amy Klobuchar, Pete Buttigieg and Cory Booker will make great cabinet members!!! Hillary Clinton will make a great US AG!!! Hopefully Barack Obama and Michelle Obama can be members of The Supreme Court!!! The systemic racism in this country needs to end as well!!

[@relentlesskevin1970]

If I ever have a phone call with her, I'm gonna announce loudly "I do not consent for this phone call to be recorded!", but other than that I like her.

[@skontheroad2666]

Too bad you could not vote in 2016. And hopefully you will learn how to form your opinions, which should not be based on "the news" as we know it today, but rather on listening to the actual sources and then forming your own educated opinions. Not those of disgruntled, angry, bitter, exciled family members who are using a pre-planned moment for their 15 minutes of fame to cash in. Mary Trump has, self admittedly, spoken more to the media in total than she likely has to Trump, directly and meaningfully, in life!

[@relentlesskevin1970]

@@skontheroad2666 Are you one of those WWG1WGA idiots?

[@skontheroad2666]

@@relentlesskevin1970 I have no clue what your acronym stands for--nor do I even want to waste my time looking it up, as I am completely done with these ridiculous labels-- but I can assure you that I am no idiot!

[@relentlesskevin1970]

@@skontheroad2666 Alright. You don't think it's odd though how so many people from Trump's past have stepped forward to warn us that he is incompetent and malicious?

[@denisemarie7991]

Losing is unacceptable to the point of DENIAL.

[@trinidad2450]

This was the best interview Mary Trump has given. She gave very insightful and penetrating responses. It was very helpful to understand the seeming erratic behavior of the man Trump, how it originated. I genuinely feel sorry Trump turned out the way he has. Nevertheless, I will NOT vote for him. My vote is going to Joe Biden and Kamala Harris. 💙

[@rachaelm2473]

🐑

[@trinidad2450]

@@rachaelm2473 Mary Trump knows better than you or me what kind of a man her uncle is. You know nothing about me, and yet you stoop to try and insult me with the 🐑. No one wants to believe the truth even when they see something with their own eyes. Biden is not perfect, but he’s NOT Trump. If you want to vote for Trump, that’s your choice, I respect that, and I won’t belittle you. But I too have a choice, and.... I already cast my vote for Biden and Harris.

[@beawinna9878]

Anyone seen Mary's latest interviews? She couldn't stop smiling. Thanks to my fellow Americans who have stood up to this bully. Now we have to survive as best we can. What a horrible mess he's left us.

[@jakevendrotti1496]

Hear hear! 👍

[@conor_2579]

She has such an incredible physical resemblance to Pres. Trump; could not be more different in thought.

[@lolitamorris2943]

She seems so natural, genuine and well rounded. She is very insightful!!!

[@sharingmythoughts1552]

My heart breaks for Mary's Dad as I listen to her describe the way he was treated by his Father. So sad.

[@gregorypeterson9]

UNBELIEVABLY SAD!!!!!

[@eblgraphics]

My God that is the recipe for a monster...

[@sheilamichaud9945]

What the hell is wrong with you people? Dont you have a mind for yourself?

[@tracer740]

@@sheilamichaud9945 - It is painfully obvious that you do ... you only accept and believe what you want to hear. This is a typical syndrome concurrent with extreme right-wing hostilities.

[@robinalecia7554]

She is brilliant loved her insight on family dynamics and exposing the dark side of her family and how this goes on in many a family. How sad we’ve come to this in America

[@666happygirl2]

I THANK YOU MARY FOR SPEAKING YOUR TRUTHS, AND BLESSINGS TO YOU 🙏🙏🙏

[@IFYOUWANTITGOGETIT]

When he loses his Presidential protection, I would advise that the best way to reduce his power would be to go after those who enable him. Forget going after Trump. That just turns him into a martyr. Go after the people who commit his crimes for him.

[@marionkidwell3196]

What crimes would that be.

[@amiegee3134]

I really like her, she seems very level headed, like someone that would be easy to sit down with and have a conversation.

[@laraoneal7284]

Excellent interview. Ty Mary.

[@cherylsegal3907]

What a great interview; much deeper questions you don't hear from other interviews.

[@davidcopperfield-notthemag397]

I wish Mary would explain my life to me. She is exceptional.

[@annalisa14]

Mysogyny needs to be explored and discussed in every year of high school.

[@robinantonio8870]

And narcissists

[@silva7493]

I enjoyed reading her book, which was weird considering I've felt the subject revolting for 50 years. It's also weird feeling admiration for a member of this family, though I haven't ever found Ivana terribly offensive I sure can't say that about any other of the Trumps I am aware of. She has such a clear sharp mind, and she's really good at expressing this.

[@Tropicaluv]

Interesting interview. . Thank you for sharing.

[@saardfetner8620]

A good way making money by talking about Donald. God bless President Trump always.

[@cathylindeboom5108]

This is one of the best, most astute, insightful analyses I've ever heard. Good for you Dr.!! Thank you for sharing this very important information about this very disturbed man. You've been heroic exposing the pathology in him. You've got such an amazing intellect AND heart/conscience - I wish you'd been president instead. And sorry about your cat way back when. :(

[@TheAnn2shoes]

Hear hear.

[@grandpadavid45]

She really helps to understand the "mad king" wannabe we are all being subjected to.

[@jeanwoodhouse6456]

"the loudest one in the room- is the weakest one in the room"

[@davinathorne5215]

Of course. That has been painfully evident over the last four years.

[@RichieDigs]

As a rule I've never trusted anyone with a spray on tan.

[@mothersgauri4137]

Yes...it is so weird that he thinks he needs to do that !..especially since he hates brown people.

[@larazanz]

@@mothersgauri4137 well he doesn’t tan himself brown per se.

[@cocomajoko1]

@@mothersgauri4137 Lol 😝

[@erincaitlin1655]

Yeah, a real snake oil sales man ... Says it all.

[@maijaliepa119]

💙🙏💙ThankYou💙🙏💙Mary for Putting Yourself Out There Giving Us Your Experiences With Your Family💙🙏💙😷Blessings💙🦋💙😷

[@theanastacia1920]

Mary is such a Brave Woman! she took the risk and she did well!

[@jmlewis435]

This interview was fascinating!

[@ej3016]

and her book is more fascinating

[@denisemarie7991]

"Trump made a bad situation worse... to benefit himself" a definite pattern.

[@sandyjohnson4182]

Mary Trump; "My grandfather never took responsibility for anything that was bad." That encapsulates the example Fred Trump gave to his children. True leaders lead by example. One of the most important examples a leader can set is taking responsibility for the bad as well as the good which takes place under their watch. If Donald's example from his father was to deny responsibility for anything bad, that perfectly demonstrates why he himself takes no responsibility for leadership in fighting the pandemic and why he will not accept responsibility for losing the 2020 election and continues to fight the outcome by any means, no matter how foul and outrageous. Everything bad is the fault of someone or something else. It can NEVER be HIS responsibility. That explains why he (AND HIS FOLLOWERS who mimic him like mindless automatons) speak and act as if SOMEONE ELSE was in charge for the past 4 years. Everything bad which has happened during that time is SOMEONE ELSE'S fault. Remember the demonstrations in Portland and other cities? Trump said that that is what the city streets would look like if Joe Biden were President and the Democrats were in control!!!! But what was happening was taking place while HE was in control!!!! He simply COULD NOT acknowledge that fact!!!! The most dangerous kind of leader is a wanna be "leader" who cannot accept responsibility for their mistakes and failings but who ONLY craves praise for anything positive which happens to take place during their watch, even if the positive has nothing to do with them. Donald Trump IS that sort of supposed "leader". One who crumbles when they face adversity and thrashes about to find someone or something else to blame. Which is why Mary Trump has said; "He's the weakest person I know."

[@kenadams5504]

He's currently in Court for attempting to Defraud the last election results (with co-conspirators) . Don't forget ,his Capitol Hill riot was incited out of his insistance that his election failure was because of fraudulant vote counting.....the same crime he is now in trouble for !.As you said ,he accuses others of what he doing wrong , himself.

[@siewtohong7138]

Thanks Mary for the book, it was certainly an eye opener

[@evacaraballo2647]

Love to listen to this lady l see her honesty I wish her the best luck this year one Americans to another thank you 🙏

[@carichaos1651]

I love this women. Standing up for what is right. ✊🏻🖤

[@matthewscopelite5303]

DJT could have been a good man if he wanted to change for the better, he just didn't want to.

[@angelm.bouchard3722]

Ignore the polls and trolls. Vote too save democracy in America! Vote too big to rig! Vote country over party! 🇺🇸🇺🇸Biden/Harris 🇺🇸🇺🇸

[@marionkidwell3196]

Ha ha ha boy are u in for a big surprise

[@gilgemash]

Wow! What a lady! What an intelligent human! 🙏🌈🌞 Fabulous interview, Madame Interviewer 🙏😁☕🌞

[@francruz5824]

Smart, you can tell she’s educated and analytical. Speaking grammatically correct, proper English, you can understand clearly. Armed with a proper Education(Psychologist), she is a good source of objective analysis of Donald Trump’s behaviors being played right before our eyes. She has concrete examples of her statements and theories.

[@sydney13ism]

Mary, you are just fascinating, as few have such intimate insight as you. Love hearing your grandparents' stories. I have always wondered what kind of monsters they must have been in order to produce such a weak and horribly insecure, broken soul.

[@lindaosborne2967]

Mary Trump, you are such a beautiful lady. Great interview. Thank you.