The COMPLETE History of TF2's 2fort

Believe it or not, 2fort's origins stretch back decades, reaching as far back as the 1990s. In this video, I go through every single version I could find on the internet leading up to TF2's release in 2007.
Thanks to the folks over at FortressOne for helping me put together this video. Go check them out here: / discord
Oh, and don't forget to join my Discord server too! / discord
0:00 Intro
0:36 "The Fortress" (Doom) (1994)
1:07 "Fortress of Doom" (Doom 2) (1994)
1:26 "fortress.wad" (Doom 2) (1996)
2:29 "2fort" (Quake) (1996)
3:19 "2fort5r" (Quake) (1998)
4:20 "2fort" (TFC) (1999)
4:40 "Forts" (Q3F) (1999)
5:16 "2fortsUNF" (Unreal Fortress) (2000)
5:52 "2Fortress" (Unreal Fortress) (2000)
6:15 "2fort4" (Unreal Fortress) (2000)
6:38 "2fort" (Unreal Fortress) (2001)
7:01 "2Forts" (Unreal Fortress) (2001)
7:28 "tf2_2fort" (TF2 Invasion Leak) (2003)
7:55 "TF2 - X-mas build" (TF2 Invasion Leak) (2003)
8:19 "wolf_2fort" (Return to Castle Wolfenstein) (2003)
9:28 "twofort.map" (Q4F) (2005-7)
10:02 "ctf_2fort" (HL2 CTF) (2005)
10:58 "ff_2fort" (Fortress Forever) (2007)
11:50 "ctf_2fort" (Pre-Fortress 2) (2007)
12:42 Concluding Remarks
If you want to see a part 2 showcasing a bunch of 2fort reskins and adaptations in other games since its 2007 release, leave a like and consider subscribing!
LINKS:
TF2 Invasion Leak: steamcommunity.com/sharedfile...
Interview with Robin Walker: www.quaddicted.com/webarchive...
All versions of QWTF's 2fort: • The Evolution of 2fort...
QWTF gameplay clip: • Quake Mega TF - 10/4/1...
Broken/Missing maps: unrealarchive.org/maps/unreal...
unrealarchive.org/maps/unreal...

[@QuakeWorldTeamFortress]

Nice work man!

[@Elroorl666]

ye

[@joshipan]

ye

[@nike5772]

What a roller coaster of nostalgia for some people, crazy that our 2Fort of today is partially based off of Doom.

[@LEDs]

Yup. I knew a little about 2fort’s history before starting this video, but I never knew about that one version of fortress.wad made in 1996 that really started it all.

[@C.A._Old]

@@LEDs Oh Yeah ! Best Team Fortress Born This map in August 1996 ! 26. Year Anniversary ! Meanwhile Gabe And Mike Created Valve Corporation ! Amazing Timing.

[@Fandestdh]

Unreal tournament spawn sound is a teleport to childhood for me

[@Dr_Dan_]

very nice. didnt know 2fort had SO many remakes. some of those even surprised me, like the Wolfenstein one

[@LEDs]

The Wolfenstein one really caught me off guard. I thought it was gonna look like 💩

[@byrguy1295]

Same here it was cool to see all the different versions. I wonder who finally came up with the idea to cover the bridge, it makes snipers far less annoying and easier to attack on 2fort. I only played TFC's 2fort and it was a great map without all the stupid sewer camping of TF2.

[@Vienna3080]

Crazy to think 2fort is nearly 30 years old

[@Nebula_Protogen752]

In that 2003 leak - It was just source code and 2 character models. the map was made by the Project Beta team. That map was not made by valve.

[@Nebula_Protogen752]

The readme file for this version of TF2 Invasion, literally says the map was made by Project Beta.

[@BaileyChap]

@@Nebula_Protogen752 Consider sticking this reply comment into the main comment so people will see it, interesting information all the same!

[@Nebula_Protogen752]

@@BaileyChap Its now a Highlighted Reply now, does that count?

[@Fernkarry]

Due to Wolf. Enemy Territory having gameplay features that require open areas, it makes sense that the version that was made for that game has a lot of exposed areas.

[@LEDs]

Did you ever play it?

[@Fernkarry]

@@LEDs a long time ago

[@ZaPpaul]

2fort5r on QWTF was the best version for me. The QWTF community made it more than anything, but the map was incredibly well balanced and made for some of the most amazing clan games I've experienced in my 25 years of clan gaming.

[@LEDs]

I’m thinking about making a video dedicated to the quake fortress community, FortressOne.

[@Ben_diez]

Damn, 2fort was born and polished/changed 20 times by greatest minds of mankind before i was born, of course i love to play on it.

[@Machtyn]

2:38 having been a Team Fortress player from the beginning when there were only 3 maps, I had forgotten that 2Fort didn't have that side opening on the battlement. It was a wonderful change when that was opened up. Prevented a lot of spawn camping. But, man, if you could set up a 3rd level sentry with this map, the game was over.

[@raphiecammayo4287]

I wonder if he’ll put “fortress forever” quite underrated

[@yourlocalfestivefurry354]

what

[@Slanik_Bab]

@@yourlocalfestivefurry354 basically tfc but source

[@raphiecammayo4287]

@@Slanik_Bab correct

[@C.A._Old]

Oh Yeah ! Best Team Fortress Born This map in August 1996 ! 26. Year Anniversary ! Meanwhile Gabe And Mike Created Valve Corporation ! Amazing Timing.

[@RainytheNB]

@@Slanik_Babtfc is already source. The original team fortress mod was not

[@ShapeyFiend]

I love Fortress Forever. It ramps the speed and movement from TFC instead of slowing it down like TF2 did.

[@heavenandhello6629]

Plus, there’s also a VERY cool Halloween version of 2Fort waiting in the steam tf2 workshop right now. It was made by steam user Ray Is Sucky but the map is still in beta right now and he doesn’t want valve to put it in the game until it’s out of beta. I playtested it and it looked so chilling. Sadly, the map has no spells but it has skeletons chasing you when someone caps. And it even has the sound of Monoculus groaning when blu caps the red intel. And just like every other Halloween map, it still has pumpkin bombs. There is also this exploit that I really hope valve never fixes, but it involves killing your own teammates with the pumpkin bombs by shooting an energy ball at them with the short circuit to make them explode when a teammate is anywhere near them

[@C.A._Old]

7:58 These Missing Texture is Snow's i see another video from Evolution Team Fortress Series.

[@ravensLitterbox]

who remembers tf2 ps3 edition? was the first one i played, i remember only being able to scream medic! every time i saw a spy , however spies were easier to detect then

[@KittStargazer]

Quake's Team Fortress also had a lot of versions of 2fort that offered different features. Two big ones being a night themed version of 2fort, with more team oriented colors and even a version of 2fort featuring 4 forts, known as 4f4. Since 2fort was the most popular map back then, it wasn't uncommon to see variants of it most likely created by other people in the quake team fortress community.

[@mayitriggeryou]

Hey man, great video! I used to play TFCTF in the late 90s and have maps and skins from then. Could you do a 3fort and 4fort video? Let me know if you want the maps.

[@Slogstin]

I've been making Doom Deathmatch maps for some time now and i'm kinda tempted/inspired to make my own interpretation of 2Fort now, using a more advanced Sourceport of course. Already got an idea, i'll try that later.

[@swein5399]

You missed Quake 2 Weapons Factory. My favorite TF style mod

[@angelivanovski7164]

great to see that people still play quake fortress

[@furycd001]

Thanks for the awesome video :) Thoroughly enjoyed watching it :) There was a version of 2fort for Medal of Honor. Can't remember which one, but possible allied assault....

[@bruhmoment5465]

2fort5r my beloved

[@TheBloodyPoint]

It's funny/fun to see people who did not live through this period and experience these things directly, discovering them.

[@Slanik_Bab]

Ah, i love playing as chaingunner on fortress.wad!

[@FearTheQuakeguy]

Great video!! This is amazing, i only knew about quakeworld team fortress and TFC 2forts. I kinda prefer pre fortress 2's 2fort more

[@Falgren]

I used to play the old Quake TF mod when I was like 12 years old... The memories :D

[@C.A._Old]

Oh Yeah ! Best Team Fortress Born This map in August 1996 ! 26. Year Anniversary ! Meanwhile Gabe And Mike Created Valve Corporation ! Amazing Timing.

[@LEDs]

Lol I love your comments

[@nikhedonia555]

Interesting video, it deserves more views!

[@LEDs]

Glad you think so!

[@Tbird761]

In my mind, 2fort4 was the version that really cemented itself.

[@Realmjumper4099]

Very informative thank you.

[@chuck_muckle]

Love the channel.

[@LEDs]

Love your support.

[@bledking]

Very cool video, I used to play TF Q1 and didn't know 2fort was inspired by Doom maps.

[@akkkarinn]

Nice video man

[@LEDs]

Thank you!

[@R00M409]

Love the mention of Unreal Fortress. Super underrated mod/game

[@mariquitaadriano4494]

Thank you for taking my request. You are the best😇❤.

[@LEDs]

💙💚❤️

[@christiangottsacker6932]

This is sort of a stretch, but Conker: Live and Reloaded had a tale of fort deux and it was sort of a hybrid of 2fort and some battlefield/wolfenstein vibes and it was one of the most fun maps. In fact i think it had two 2forts, one future, one past. They were a bit larger, to utilize some of the vehichles (some where airborne) but still a fun time. Also its a class shooter as well.

[@soulyouth]

well6 was pretty much a upgraded version of 2fort for quake teamfortress, I loved both maps so much !

[@MBP1918]

Incredible

[@mikeymayhem_]

You forgot about quake IIs. Idk if it was JUST included in the remaster but it has 2fort. I don't remember what it was called, but it wasn't called 2fort

[@foxden908]

the invasion maps where not made by valve, they where made by team gaben who was a mod team working on getting invasions code working the only things to leak with invasion was its source code and the human comando and alien comando models

[@jg7417]

Great list! Another early 2fort derivative worth mentioning is 2fort7wf (1998) for Weapons Factory, a Quake 2 mod. WF itself was inspired by TF and had similar classes, but with many additional unique and interesting weapons. Though you won't find much footage of it nowadays except for clan matches which tended to be limited to a handful of classes (marines, gunners and engineers typically). kzbin.info/www/bejne/d53bZIaZnLJ-gKM

[@LEDs]

Crazy

[@lord_razur]

Called it. Didn't leave my comment on the community post because I was second-guessing myself but I called it.

[@scootyman_]

Haha I DIDN'T know it!

[@SapphireWhiteTF2]

Best version of 2fort is "facing worlds" from ut99

[@man-of-nod]

"Fortress dot W-A-D" 🙄

[@LEDs]

🥲

[@guihermenegri6742]

❤ amazing video

[@LEDs]

Thanks! 😀

[@Faleko_Fares]

bro why you use the force-a-nature with the cleaver and the wrap assassin?

[@LEDs]

I like them

[@stupidratt]

@@LEDs you are being sentenced to execution

[@thanksomuch1557]

Haha I knew it!

[@Bubbyisagoodboy]

I played 2fort4 2fort5 well6

[@Pomodorosan]

5:19 "at the turn of the century" why omit the chance to say "at the turn of the millennium"?

[@LEDs]

Didn’t cross my mind

[@JanoschNr1]

I think we all think the same now: Wait whaaaAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHH!

[@Nuggy1980]

I played 2fort for QWTF

[@Xeyvian]

Played the crap out of quakeworld 2f2. Would rocket jump the front into sniper nest and roll the snipers who kept killing me

[@FellaSimpleton]

Yo i actually suggested this!

[@LEDs]

That’s why I made it :)

[@FellaSimpleton]

@@LEDs thanks!

[@GregChudley]

You forgot ctf_2fort_invasion for the tf2 invasion update

[@heavenandhello6629]

Valve REALLY needs to give us an update that would update the lighting on the very first maps of tf2 which are 2Fort, Dustbowl, Gravel Pit, CP_Well, Granary, and Hydro. Because the lighting got fucked up on all 6 of these maps due to them having an outdated lighting system compared to every other new map that was added to the game in the years 2008-2022. Go watch youtuber Crowbcat’s “tf2 2007 and now” video to understand. Plus, I also want them to bring back all of the other old graphical details in that video as well regardless of the weak pc’s since we’re already gonna be dead by the time that nobody will be playing games on weak pc’s anymore. We also really need back the old spawn door for that spawn room on CP_Well that you respawn in when you die after your team capped the middle control point that lets you get back into the room regardless if you already exited it. I know that valve removed it because the enemy teams would easily get back into that room to get more health and ammo while trying to defend the warehouse control point, but the the thing is that valve forgot that it would just be a skill issue if people complained about that which is why we need the old door back regardless. And last but not least, about the fall damage grunting noises that you’re gonna see at the end of the video, I would really love for them to bring those back too along with the old leg crunch noises regardless if the grunts don’t sound like the actual voices of the classes because they would’ve became a meme nowadays just like the old minecraft “oo!” hurt noises and the roblox “oof!” hurt noises if they never removed them in the first place: m.kzbin.info/www/bejne/rWK6ZneLad-gd6M

[@dkskcjfjswwwwwws413]

valve needs to fix first person animations aswell, but theyll never do that also no the beta hurt noise sucked

[@heavenandhello6629]

@@dkskcjfjswwwwwws413 Nah, we still need the beta noises back. But what’s wrong with the viewmodel animations?

[@lychy645]

they removed the old noises because they sounded like shit

[@melc311]

@@heavenandhello6629 Nothing, he's just playing with viewmodel fovs higher than the intended 54

[@mickymoist]

You didn't mention the CTF mods at all... Hmmm

[@vxxmp1re]

now THIS is going on my sex playlist.

[@duncetheman]

Gzdoom texture filtering 😧😧😧😧😧

[@CygnusLaboratorys2056]

👍

[@WulfieZi]

What about 2fort invasion?

[@wiggytommy8607]

You know what I think would be cool? A version of 2Fort, but with the all of the differences from the other versions. Kinda like 2Fort+

[@chippotato5647]

That would be pretty cool, yeah! It might get a little complicated, though, figuring out which differences to put where, since some of those divergences each iteration has might overlap. There's also the question of the artpass, as just about every version of 2fort seems to have its own aesthetic, more or less. Medieval, futuristic, factory, snow, canyon, etc. I'm sure there are plenty of people out there that'd be able to figure all this out, though, or at least give it an honest try.

[@elchipplushproductions9340]

LETS GOOOOOO also THIRD!

[@alanmacdonald1457]

how dare you spend so little time on 2fort in TFclassic FTclassic ftw

[@UAVXP]

7:28 The whole "leaked beta" stuff is fake. There are no leaked 2fort maps in 2003 leak. All of the stuff you've shown is fan-made

[@Rudywtf]

somebody talking about the og team fortress when they werent even alive during its time. i remember when people with fancy vidoe cards could see through the water.

[@ultrascarlet5275]

He has mouselook on in DooM 😔

[@SleeperJohns]

Eww, mouselook in Doom. Turn that shit off. I want to see some tank's turret action.

[@JonCombo]

Shout out to bam4.bsp by Midori.