The Darkside of Gorpcore

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In today's video, I do a lot of yapping about gorpcore.
A big thanks to Saeed Al-Rubeyi (Co-founder and Designer at Story MFG) for bringing this subject to my attention during a podcast he did with Throwing Fits.

[@nihilean]

ooo nani nani

[@sebastienleblanc5217]

Onani!

[@arko9151]

@@sebastienleblanc5217that is a sussy word in swedish

[@sebastienleblanc5217]

@@arko9151 sussy? In japanese onani means masturbation...

[@arko9151]

@@sebastienleblanc5217 in Swedish too!

[@sebastienleblanc5217]

@@arko9151 oh! interesting!

[@seanp2k617]

fashion trend should be called “boring normies discover high-end outdoor gear then proceed to make it their entire personality”

[@BurtReynoldstash]

Lol😂well said. All these guys on dating apps. Giving it large about “their” outdoor lifestyle. 😂 The only place they’ve hiked is the local mall. 😂

[@welfare_baybee]

This has been Seattle forever. It's the "engineer that goes to REI" look.

[@treestuffer]

just like "overlanding"

[@elijahedwards6571]

@@welfare_baybee Yep, damn near 30 and I've been seeing (and wearing) the style since I was a babe. It's a Seattle thing for sure.

[@welfare_baybee]

It's as Seattle as commuting on a dual sport with a crossing guard vest on haha@@elijahedwards6571

[@havenwisner6776]

Thank you gorpcore enthusiasts for making already expensive outerwear more expensive for me. Also Gortex patent is over due to age but brands still use it opposed to cheaper and better materials because they can markup the price with the Gortex label. Basically a marketing ploy at this point

[@zachariah7114]

Then stop the brand worship you claim to hate, if it's all marketing, and just buy less expensive outerwear. Problem solved.

[@havenwisner6776]

I only wear cropped I heart Firenze shirts and homemade jorts@@zachariah7114

[@CL-vz6ch]

​@zachariah7114 I saw a blue shell "goretex" type shell jacket in Primark for £22(?). It looked identical to an older Rab jacket I have. Big brands are overrated.

[@bickyboo7789]

What are the better and cheaper materials? I need a new winter jacket that's water proof yet breathable.

[@dashdashdash_]

​@@CL-vz6ch Primark is over rated and unethical, purchase second hand or locally if you really want to do something.

[@laylasupreme3248]

was expecting 13 minutes of Salomon slander but was instead educated about the textile industry 🤝

[@CrimsonCrux]

I still have a pair of Salomon shoes I bought in the UK. When I moved to the US, it seemed like a brand that wannabe operator larpers jumped on and made cringe, like 5.11 which honestly does good work pants.

[@AgentZeroO]

Wait, whats wrong with Salomon? Their shoes are top

[@laylasupreme3248]

Salomons are great, Im just a hater. People look straight goofy to me showing up to the function in full hiking gear when you know their ass hasnt touched grass in 4 months. But wear whatever @@AgentZeroO 👍

[@AgentZeroO]

@@laylasupreme3248 fair point

[@diltzm]

The Quest 4D is fookin amazing, but don't forget to change your socks.

[@nandohervido9408]

As a faithful lover of mountains and rock climbing, I want to thank you for doing this video and spreading all this valuable information about the outdoor gear industry. It is really hard to find brands that fully respect the environment in all their processes. I think all these fashion trends are destroying outdoor spaces and filling the mountains with idiots who put themselves in danger and do not respect nature but rather damage it. It's a real pity 💔

[@matimikk2275]

Perfectly said, unfortunately I have had the experience of seeing many people endanger themselves, but worse yet, others, and when I have had conversations with some about what got them into it, it was sadly vapid, shallow reasons like this. On a happier note, what type of climbing do you most enjoy?

[@picahudsoniaunflocked5426]

@@matimikk2275 I have a neurological illness that prevents me from climbing, but I lived in the Canadian Rockies & LOVE watching ice climbers & bouldering, free climbing. I love having all the comforts ready for them when they come back down too. I'm a supportive Base Camp B-tch lol. Nando didn't answer, but what's your climbing jam? Funny thing, almost all the ice climbers I knew were also cavers, & a few became certified cave divers.

[@matimikk2275]

@@picahudsoniaunflocked5426 As of now I stick mostly with rock, however the silly thing is, yeah I am looking at spelunking too, and plan on getting a diving cert this summer, however as far as cave diving goes Im not too sure as I dont have anyone to do it with, nor are there any caves in my area. And we love the base camp b-tches!

[@Embassy_of_Jupiter]

I find it really interesting how some people live in a completely different world even with information traveling so fast. I've literally never heard of Gorpcore until now.

[@Finn-lp5uf]

where do you live out of curiosity? surely not the UK?

[@ObsceneSuperMatt]

The problem now is not speed, but the shear volume of information.

[@Embassy_of_Jupiter]

@@ObsceneSuperMatt Yeah, I think so too. I work with AI and the thought of the effort involved to sift through all that information, even in an automated way, boggles the mind.

[@ObsceneSuperMatt]

@@Embassy_of_Jupiter As a human, you can only see so much culture and memes and social trends, even if you spend all day on the Internet. I'm pretty amazed at some of the neat stuff the algorithms decide to show me, sometimes its fun to just go down some weird rabbit hole of recommendations.

[@MangoMang]

We're all getting our own personally tailored reality fed to us when it comes to anything which use recommender systems online, it's crazy really, sure we all get recommended certain things but I imagine it like a giant Venn diagram, and the further you feed the system your data (what you watch the most and how you use Google in KZbin's case) the further it pushes you in certain directions on that diagram. Pretty scary in ways I feel, it can polarise us when implemented haphazardly, since controversial content gets way more clicks than less sensational content, so it becomes all you see, giving the illusion that's how things are. This is probably fine if you understand how these things work but I worry for those who don't, they're the most likely to think their content is the norm.

[@AdventureAndySnM]

The guy eating the trailmix at 0:24 seconds is me Edit: I love trail mix

[@user-df2fl1pj6q]

Wow hello

[@user-df2fl1pj6q]

How was the trail mix? Did it have M&M's in it?

[@mymai5859]

Cool

[@AdventureAndySnM]

They were called "chocolate candies". I think someone at the factory licked off the ms

[@AlMondO93]

This was the style in the late 90's when people would wear a snowboard jacket at a drum & bass rave.

[@stephenimsong3462]

you just unlocked a core memory right there

[@flashywordz]

Hip hop in the 90s too! NYC rappers talked about wearing Gore-tex, and rappers would wear the Gucci ski goggles for no reason in their videos

[@savasolarov8424]

Rofl

[@KnjazNazrath]

Urban camo pants will never die!

[@dizzymindy6024]

The Grunge Era

[@TheTurtlesrockz]

As a portlander kid whos been in the pnw, I didn't know I was fashionable. I learned about gorpcore when tik tok boommed. I was like bro I need this jacket for the rain, it rains like 89% of the days here, either way I love my mountain hardware jacket, 8 years strong.

[@frida507]

Same for Sweden, didn't know it was a trend...

[@coolea]

WHEN ARE YOYU FONNA MAKE A BVIDEO ON BLACK METAL?????

[@leopertamo6619]

True

[@ThatGuy-ky2yf]

It's him, it's the guy

[@helderrodrigues236]

Black metal is abslutely DEEZ. We should have some DEEZ NUUUTS good genre being covered up PS: tnx for enlight me with this reccomendation in your post, coolea

[@M3talhead2]

Deez nuts

[@Truth-And-Freedom]

Yeah I'm black look at me look at me talk about meeeeeeeeeeeeee 🤣👍🤡

[@sniped96you]

Fjällräven does some great products without using gore-tex. But you have to use a wax on the clothes to keep em waterproof.

[@saftigesfruchtchen456]

good old sweds

[@klettersteig599]

Overpriced and uncomfortable clothing imo

[@Improbable_Studio]

Just a fyi, its true most of Fjällräven is like that but they developed their own version of goretex or was it dwr, something along those lines, and the problem with that was that it also was in some amount harmful. I read into it some time ago, so take the info with a grain of salt, but there is some truth to it ;)

[@oreocarlton3343]

Fjallraven waxing is a meme waterproof solution, clothes become air tight after waxing

[@freshpootube]

You have to keep treating Goretex to make it work too…so I’d rather try Fjallraven, wouldn’t you?

[@LegendaryPatMan]

Totally alternative perspective on DWR's from someone who hikes: you don't need GoreTex or similar. Staying perfectly dry while having breathable clothing is a brand new idea to humans since the 70's and 80's Prior to then we wore layers and allowed ourselves to get a little wet which would allow us to dry quickly by warming up, which is why wool was such a valuable material for so much stuff to wear And if you needed to stay perfectly dry, there were solutions to that too in wearing stuff like oilskins, or a modern thing like a nylon poncho which will be perfectly dry, but also not breathable and you pace yourself Gore Tex didn't solve any problems, only created them and it did so with sexy marketing. Don't believe me, go chat to a long term homeless person and see how they have survived and even thrived for years in the streets with no 1000 quid jacket and pants

[@vigilancebrandon3888]

THIS

[@Mas_Tagal]

Can you elaborate more on what oilskins is?

[@LegendaryPatMan]

@@Mas_Tagal I'm not 100% sure, but if you ever say the thick yellow outfits that sailors used to wear to stay dry in high seas, it's that. I'm not exactly sure how they are made or what specifically is done to them to make them waterproof? It could be wax like Fjallraven uses?

[@joshuacapehart1900]

@@Mas_Tagal @LegendaryPatMan is correct. The thick yellow sailor jackets are oilskins, and Fjallraven's wax coating is similar. Oilskins in general use some combination of wax and oil. It can be a bit stiff and not at all breathable, but incredibly water and wind proof. It's a great choice if you are going to sitting or standing around in the rain. Any breathabiity comes from the design of the clothing, instead of the fabric.

[@LegendaryPatMan]

@ratinthefoxhole2373 yes... Because hikers sit in foxholes and live out of bergens for days on end while under constant shelling, night time raids and kamikaze drone attacks... For the military, personally as long as what they are doing isn't like the toxic hell of a burn pit, they need the best to perform in some tough conditions where morale matters. But I'm not talking about military uses, I'm talking about normal, every day people who just go for a day hike and are done for the day. You don't need insanely waterproof GoreTex gear to do that I have some nice kit, I live in Ireland, it's been raining for 4 days straight without a pause. There's no shame in not taking a hike because there's a storm outside that's literally knocking houses down. You don't need to go out in that or sit in a hole in the ground either in it. Forcing yourself to go out in conditions like that is only going to be problematic for 99.9% of people and take the joy out of a wonderful hobby

[@Kimiko11111]

it's so funny how hype culture has created a huge boom for goretex, but actual nature enthusiasts don't even wear it. fashion trends are so weird.

[@raw8814]

Cause these people just like their easily digestible and “stylish” version of whev normal people they’re stealing from

[@_______________00]

They don't? I'm pretty sure a lot of them do.

[@josephregan1007]

nature enthusiasts absolutely still use GoreTex.

[@dickbuttspeterson]

Damn I have a full dead bird shell outfit for when I snow shoe, so you're telling me I shouldn't wear it because of what again? Am I not a true outdoors person unless I weave my own snow gear from reeds or something?

[@jakubgrygiel9795]

@@josephregan1007 An umbrella is always a much better choice for a hiker in the rain, but you can't know that unless you hike a serious distance in a rain

[@daisydiltss]

Well said, glad you popped up. Looking forward to more of your videos.. That was super informative.

[@WoodEe-zq6qv]

Thing gets popular. KZbinrs make a 'dark side of' video. Thing gets popular. KZbinrs make a 'dark side of' video. rinse and repeat until the end of time.

[@xaviermelendez2639]

Hmmm... ok, from my recollection, folks were wearing "Gorpcore" as street fashion starting back in the 90s. Not sure what's so new about this, it's been part of street culture in NYC and LA for decades.

[@coolea]

You REEK LOL

[@treestuffer]

@@coolea you okay m8

[@mortenrl1946]

some of the old nerds in my scout group have been looking dorky like this since the 70's and still are

[@FrischesG]

One thing you haven't mentioned is that Arc'teryx has a division called LEAF (Law Enforcement and Armed Forces) that produces gear made for war. War and combat are amazing for the environment as we all know! Hiking, rock climbing, supporting gun lobbies... it's all the same 👍 Arc´teryx and Salomon both belong to Amer Sports.

[@tallyshay217]

Thank you for the information 🙏 I had no idea. Just when I thought I was safe from feeding companies tied to the military 😮‍💨 truly there is no ethical consumption under capitalism.

[@roflcoptre]

Can you explain this idea a little more

[@user-ng3sl6gp4s]

The other issue with traditional groe-tex shells is that the DWR coating that makes them good wears off in a couple of years, so really they aren't even durable. As soon as the chemical layer goes the waterproofing gets way worse. For anyone in the UK looking for a great jacket that IS sustainable, paramo is the best option going. I have been a climber/mountaineer for many years and they have stood by me so well.

[@oreocarlton3343]

Goretex jackets are water sponges after few years or one wrong wash and their breathability is pretty bad until it starts, Ill be looking into Paramk

[@CaptiveFreedoms]

Loss of dwr coating through wear/washing and fluffing of the fabric caused by abrasion allows wetting out of the outer fabric. If the outer fabric wets out they’re still waterproof just not breathable so you get wet from the inside rather than the outside.

[@oreocarlton3343]

@@CaptiveFreedoms there are also micro tears of the goretex and those are accelerated once outer fabric stops working as it should since it stops protecting the raw goretex

[@JellyFlavoredGerman]

Paramo is exactly the same: Polyester coated in DWR that needs to be re-applied.

[@dr0n3droid]

​@@JellyFlavoredGermanYou missed the part where he claims to be a fanboy. You know fanboys don't do logic.

[@EdwardMarakhov]

genuinely both the most entertaining and educational video i've seen on youtube this month

[@myname-mz3lo]

really ? your algo must suck .

[@redwarf8118]

your interests must also suck

[@AutoMattOn]

really high quality video. everything i like: clear point, solid research, no timewasting. you earned a like and a sub. well played sir.

[@Improbable_Studio]

First of all great video, production is immaculate. As someone who used to promote and jump on trends quickly, II like the perspective on how you convey your point, it personally something I've my self have struggled quite a bit with conveying in my videos. But on another note, the justification many people make when they wanna enjoy the outdoors and start hiking that you need to buy a bunch of gore-tex gear and top-of-the-line models is just absurd (especially fashion people), as someone who started out being a boy scout in Scandinavia I learned that 99% of the gear you use you already have. What I mean by that is you don't need special shoes or trousers or rain jacket, bags and so on, find your most comfortable pair of sneakers 2 pairs of socks a pair of pants and some sort of jacket and then just go, when you start doing 100kms or longer trips you need to gear little more up but that comes more natrually. When i was younger that way of dressing was a little weird for many, so i incorporated it as i went. Sorry for that yaping, again great video.

[@Wildernessoutside]

I disagree with that ,it’s all good and well just putting on trainers and going out in nature ,but if you get caught out in nature then your fucked and exposed to the elements,which can end up being a life threatening experience ,of course you don’t have to drop 500 quid on a jacket but you do need to be properly insulated from the weather and be wearing the right shoes as trainers don’t cut it once you start to get up high

[@willsonj]

⁠@@Wildernessoutside Me too. The only expensive outdoors thing I own is a pair of On waterproof walking boots. You absolutely don’t need designer everything to enjoy the outdoors. However, decent, functional boots are a must for any serious walking. The ankle support is so much better than trainers, and a bad sprain at the top of a mountain could be deadly. Walking with wet feet for hours is also a bad idea.

[@wrong_trousers]

Thank you! I really appriecate it. As someone who's gotten through annual 2 week long hiking camps since the age of 8 on exclusively the cheapest hiking gear from sports direct (my mum would always buy the stuff not realising how bad the quality was haha) what you've said resonates with me. Obviously, certain environments and conditions require specialised clothes but I don't think that should make they are exempt from sustainability discussion especially when there are alternative technologies that can be used. Btw, I came across your ERD video a month or so ago and really enjoyed it. I hope to see more content from you soon :)

[@dr0n3droid]

​@@wrong_trousersMom: We have gorpex at home

[@Kapulot]

@@willsonjhigh end outdoor wear was never and still isn’t considered ‘designer’ by people who buy it for it’s intended purpose, that has been created buy the folk who’ve bought it to be ‘on trend’. I’ve hiked and camped for years and own a fair bit of high end gear, but I’ve never bought any of it with the intention of wearing it to look on trend, the clothing has specific purposes and being that its well made, means it lasts me for years.

[@szxnv]

glad to discover this channel, surprised why its not more popular given the quality of these videos :)

[@wilisubocz9462]

Totally agree. One thing worth knowing is that a good gtx jacket will last you for ten years of use in the mountains and then it has a relatively smaller impact on the environment.

[@markakien]

this the way i see it, my last GTX jacket lasted 10-15 years, my new one will hopefully last the same, that could be 2 jackets in 30 years not that bad on the environment in the grand scheme of things

[@MuffinGamingMC]

most people buying goretex aren’t making this calculation tho

[@jedgarren2901]

I live a couple miles from an entrance to The Great Smoky Mountains National Park. I grew up backcountry hiking, rock climbing, whitewater kayaking,etc.etc. I've been wearing outdoor clothing all my life. I spent my summers working at my Uncle's motel in Townsend, Tennessee. Working at his Townsend property gave me the opportunity to work as a Backcountry Guide to the army of tourists that use Townsend as a jumping off point into the Appalachian backcountry. My choice of outdoor kit is a direct reflection of my experience here in The Great Smoky Mountains

[@indigowendigo8464]

Hey man I grew up in knoxville and we love Townsend. Y'all have done such a good job keeping the place nice and not crazy like pigeon forge. Hope it stays that way. Loved swimming at the Y and the sinks but we've had to discover new swimming holes because of the crowds

[@ck891]

Good for you lad

[@LilyGazou]

Beautiful area- I used to visit my brother when he lived there. Great hikes.

[@banksarenotyourfriends]

I live on a hill farm in the Pennines and have always just used army surplus jackets and wool layers to stay warm in poor weather. They're cheap as chips and last forever, and they were made in the 1990's so the Carbon has already been spent on their manufacturing whether I buy them or not.

[@me5969]

I always tell lads who are getting into outdoors stuff to do that. I still use my old bergan and smock from the Herrick days. Only use them really for wild camping because it was still the 95s which is perfect for our woodland. I was never a fan of the mtp although it was getting phased in while I was there. Anyway it's all still in good nick. The only thing that is knackered are my old Lowas... And me

[@randomnobodovsky3692]

@@me5969 DPM pattern clothes were extremely good. When your guys phased them out, surplus was popular here in mid-eastern Europe as working clothes and even for everyday use. MTP indeed seems like it fits no particular terrain/climate, just like all those Multicam derivates.

[@LilyGazou]

Sounds like paradise. Is it open country or any forests?

[@chestnut4860]

I got "army surplus pilled" by comments such as these and brought a a jacket from my local military surplus store. It was missing a the inside of one sleeve and rank of that smell of something that's been in a closet for 500 years mixed with sweat. Wtf are you people buying?

[@austinbased1976]

Great vid G. I started following when I saw the work wear video. I'm from where Carharrt is from and still mainly runs out of still. Glad to be here

[@hurleyhandouts3949]

This is my new favorite channel

[@crudepuppy4325]

Your videos have been great so far, can’t wait for more content

[@wrong_trousers]

Thank you! I have lots of videos planned and will try and get into a more consistent upload schedule.

[@lobo-uh2tb]

​​@@wrong_trousersgore tex was one of my favorite materials 😭i wonder if vibram soles are ok or there is a similar problem with them ?😥

[@L.mob1]

First time seeing your content and I'm hooked! Much love ❤

[@darylthoms1862]

Great information in here. This is something thats gotten into my head as a rock climber and somebody who makes there own clothes. I live near a textile mill that produces waxed ripstop cotton fabrics and plan on making gorpcore style clothing from this fabric to try and combat this. Also to try combat the micro plastics that come out of washing clothes with different kinds of polymers in them.

[@LilyGazou]

Great idea.

[@jeodoretoel]

the best and funniest video i've watched in probably the last 20 minutes. Well done!! take this gold kind stranger!

[@thisisaloadofbarnacles7729]

you are grossly under rated new sub keep up the good vids i can tell you put lots of time into them

[@samefacebutadifferentperson]

graffiti artists used to nick arc’teryx jackets as it was a grail tool for bombing/tagging in the 90s/2000s and that reference point played a part in them being used in Virgil’s fashion shows etc. only a middle class hippie would think all the youth wanna wear em cause hiking is now cool lmao

[@thegentlenerd7453]

Yo I was just thinking about that old movie which included that guy talking about racking gorpcore and selling it do you remember what it was?

[@evankurdi6646]

Loved this video! When I started getting into hiking and researched outerwear companies, it became clear to me a lot of people didn't know you had to renew the waterproofing on even the most high-end jackets, assuming it would last forever. I wish you mentioned Nikwax in the video, because it's a great pfas free, water-based treatment. They make different kinds for different fabrics, and offer it as a wash-in treatment if you don't want to worry about missing any spots when spraying your clothes (I've read that the wash-in makes the inside of the garment less breathable, but I didn't notice a big difference in my Helly Hansen jacket with pit zips). Just make sure the brand of clothing doesn't recommend against Nikwax, as some DWRs are incompatible and it might streak or stain. Also, normal laundry detergents and especially fabric softeners will degrade the performance of DWR treatments!! So many people have probably put their dirty jacket through the wash, and wondered why expensive clothing they've only had for a few months starts wetting-out quickly.

[@mrdzha9519]

thank you for video. btw nice back-sound and montage!

[@bloop2880]

This is a really good video and summarizes the outdoor luxury issue along with the fashion trend side really well. I'm an ecologist and in 2018 I was buying trail running shoes that I was gonna wear for a 3 month project in the bush in South Africa. I bought a pair of Salomon shoes that were about $200 (way out of my normal budget) and ugly as shit, but comfortable, so I knew they'd be good for the field. They were neon and I would've never worn something like this in public. In 2021 I was back in NYC (where I'm from) after living away from a while, and I was so confused by the dozens of people wearing Salomon shoes, that are still ugly as fuck, but walking down the street in Brooklyn with an iced coffee in their hand. Good quality products for people working in the outdoors field has been co-opted by these gorp whatevers, which makes the price go up while incidentally making the quality go down. Thank you for highlighting the PFC/PFAS issue in this video as well, I knew for a while now how dangerous they were but somehow had no idea GoreTEX was a huge part of this. Kudos for a very succinct and on message video, I hope a lot of ppl have learned something from this!

[@salvatorian97]

Well put together, informative and concise. Joke delivery was Supreme (pun intended). Subbed xo

[@jakobfreh3281]

This is literally Coolea but for fashion and I love it

[@based3765]

you are a legend bro, this is a very important piece of content that would definitely contribute to the well being of the nature

[@fat80832]

Lmfaooo just discorered your vids today & everytime frank is mentioned that high pitched sample makes me crack 😂😂😂

[@bluebooper]

Amazing video, great coverage of these confusing details

[@hopsikra]

Thank you very much for the research and for the Patagonia example, I was about to buy one hard-shell but gonna switch to a PFC-free one :)

[@milderg]

Awesome video, didn't know about the PFAs. Still prolly gonna wear my dead bird on hikes until it starts to delaminating, since I got it used on REI I got that thang on me fr

[@vincentkr3w]

Thanks for making the video and growing awareness. Even though the trend has brought about some highly versatile pieces I love and enjoy every day, I literally don’t mind walking around looking like mid century Swiss alps mountain rescuer. Subjectively more timeless and elegant anyway!

[@willybobstylin]

From the uk myself, when we and mates were teenagers and hip hop heads we all knew about Goretex, down jackets and outdoor gear from that era so naturally it’s what we all wore to hang out in winter evenings to smoke and get up to no good 😂 it’s crazy to see such a boom in outdoor gear with gorp. Great vid man

[@reecemcnaughten4160]

the green washing bath clip was sick!

[@gOnzoLT]

This was a great video mate 👍

[@Tragic_TV]

Honestly an amazing video

[@jimmycburfield5997]

Manchester 1989! I remember the band Happy Mondays suddenly dressing like they were off on a days hiking. Also very much a football casual look from late 1970’s A good Berghaus jacket was ideal for attending a race!!! I had a North Face jacket that I bloody loved in 1994.

[@sssnrrr]

Thanks for making this video. This video slaps

[@xanoks1116]

great quality vid, love it

[@mattd1659]

Joking aside, this is actually quite an informative video. I learnt a lot, even though I still want a jacket with a cool bird skeleton on it

[@tjdoyle8511]

I've never heard the terms gorpcore before haha but this video was very informative. Cowboys/ranchers/ farmers and trademans etc. have been wearing waxed canvas for years due to its ruggedness, waterproofing and breathability. I think fjallraven had been using waxed canvas but maybe more of these "trendy" brands will start following suit.

[@Random-es7yo]

Fjallraven G1000 is great. I never really had a coat lasted more than a couple of years before I bought one. I have a couple must be going on 10 years old and they just look better than new. Cotton and leather and merino wool are still the best materials.

[@lt3880]

Waxed jackets still arent breathable unless they specifically design in vent flaps, and many are built with harmful polyester linings so dont beat goretex on that anyway

[@OayxYT]

I am very interested in seeing developments with these outdoor brands phasing out PFC's just simply due to the functionality of them. I am a storm chaser who regularly uses a shell jacket however I find it hard to recommend this kind of jacket to my chase partners due to us all caring about the environment (especially with us understanding the chemicals interaction with the atmosphere) as well as the price. I think Fjallraven is experimenting with using wax as an alternative which I see as good however the price is still a big issue.

[@nola281]

This sounds so bizarre to me. I had two winter parkas, one was Patagonia and the other was a Columbia. I lived up north, on a mountain and regularly hiked. The temperature dropped down to -30 on a regular basis and was below freezing for most of the year so I needed those to just live there. They weren't cute or fashion statements, they were survival necessities.

[@motimobo]

Columbia waterproof jackets are one of the worst polluters of these nasty insidious substances. Humans lived in that region where you were for thousands of years, leading an actual "outdoors lifestyle" without relying on toxic forever chemicals to deal with inclement weather. Wool, fur, waxed canvas and a good shelter will keep a human warm and dry in most conditions. First ascent of Everest was completed without artificial fibres laced with a cancer causing chemical brew. Also Otzi the Iceman, managed without these bio-accumulating immune system destroying "survival necessities".

[@maghrath1]

great video. on a different note but kinda the same topic- i'm still not over how the blundstone boots became so trendy and are now literally the new uggs. i didn't see it coming but i guess it's part of the outdoor lifestyle takeover

[@alex_n8863]

Interesting video, I've been wearing outdoor gear my whole life, didn't realise that I was "fashionable"! 😂 I've heard of these chemicals, but this video has definitely meant I'll research more before my next purchase! Thanks 👍🏼

[@adevilcamehere8692]

great video, evidently days of work

[@scottyelder8351]

This was brilliant a really interesting view thank you .

[@BigBellyEd]

The thing is… you can easily find membrane waterproof garments from other brands that don’t use PFAS at all! Some of them are Polyurethane based. So looks like Goretex is just lazy and greedy.

[@b.e.a.r6127]

I have gotten really into hiking and bought all my gear for around 700 pound, told my friend to do so too and he bought a arcterx jacket for 600 😭

[@istivatu]

Bro is 2 for 2 on videos right now, keep it up!!!

[@millennium_actor]

fantastic video, subbed

[@andrewksadventures]

I guess I've been living under a rock! Never heard of Gorpcore. Thanks for the video. I did my own research years ago and stopped using anything with Goretex or equivalents. Never thought it worked all that well any.

[@12226]

you're gonna pop off no cap frrrr

[@v0Xic]

Dude every time I see that book smart Vegeta saying tetrafluoroethylene I bust out laughing.

[@LilyGazou]

Working for outdoor gear companies in Washington state, I get everything from the sample sales for a few dollars. Outdoor Research, North Face, Carhardt, REI, Eddie Bauer, etc etc. Same with snowboard equipment and tents and packs. The thrift stores around Seattle are loaded with the stuff, some still with original tags.

[@trumanb4758]

Good vid. DnB Tune at the end?

[@ericjenkins2737]

I’m a mountain/trail-runner, this is just how I’ve always dressed. When I’m not doing that I’m in a black metal band shirt, Levi’s & Vans…do I get a fashion award?

[@Vid_Master]

Yes here it is: 🏆

[@BenVallack]

My current thinking on this is Paramo for actual outdoor activities and Barbour for the street. No membranes and no forever chemicals in either. I own a Shakedry jacket (review on my channel) and find that pretty compelling (it doesn't use or need DWR) but it's ultimately very delicate.

[@lobobolo2402]

The use of Mongolian (Tibetan maybe) throat singing as Britain faded in got you a like sir

[@NollieBackShuv1]

great vid, subbed.

[@hufass]

graff writers been rocking gorpcore before it was cool

[@friskfyr9773]

Thx! I tired of hearing that Frank Ocean started it! Smh

[@davidanddavidstrading]

Other than that! Great video! Glad I subscribed.

[@alfredoghost2306]

Living in the pacific northwest (yes portland area) everyone has columbia clothing. They don't use gortex and are pioneering new tech that doesnt need to be resealed. (Outdry technology). They have stuff that is effectively gortex though called omnitech. The first time i saw a Arc'teryx jacket i thought it was some off brand jacket of columbia. All the businesses around here get access tokens to columbia that they give to thier employees to Columbia's "employee outlet". Essentially same stuff you see inline but like 20-50% off. Northface is more of a seattle thing and Arc'teryx is something ive really only seen online.

[@felixkrell890]

subbed, sick content

[@PartanBree]

The problem is that I do indeed live under a rock in one of the more meteorologically challenged areas of the bog island we call Great Britain, so I had no idea that I was participating in Gorpcore. I thought I was just wearing a coat.

[@RascalCreations]

11:56 this point is really interesting to me haha. I’ve definitely seen more and more people on hikes wearing matching gortex clothing sets, rather than a bunch of random clothes put together from the back of a wardrobe recently haha. It’s just interesting…

[@sfmay12]

Love this!!

[@berryreading4809]

Great video, although I think many people overlook the fact that Goretex (the formula and processes atleast) has HUGE contracts with several militaries and various other major government and large corporation supply demands, so they probably care less about making a worse product for some tiktoks or naked hikers than making sure they meet the durability and waterproofing requirements of multiple nation's militaries at a time when many of those militaries were/are changing/upgrading their former mainstay uniforms and camouflage patterns... (also helps explain the time-line) Sorry earth, Uncle Sam needs new uniforms, sleep systems, and tents in mutiple camouflage patterns before goretex replaces this with an unknown variable for long term durability... Oh and any other countries that have similar contract needs where the military can be exempt from certain environmental regulations that may be in place already, normally applicable to any other non government organization... When a 20 year old surplus M-83 woodland camo rain jacket still outperforms a new $400+ rain jacket from companies literally fu king a hole in the earth during mandatory yoga sessions (or the crevice in a rotten tree) then goretex fu cking the earth metaphorically a few more years until a non compromised alternative is developed becomes a bit more understandable... Whenever goretex finally switches over they too can take advantage of earth's natural "pockets" and pay their respects and apologies too I guess... 🤣👍

[@bhuuthesecond]

In South Africa in Tshwane young men were wearing gorpcore since the late 2000s. People here have been wearing it for the past 25 years without even knowing it would ever be a thing.

[@maurokramer9409]

What is the music in the beginning of the video?

[@GetOffUrPhone]

oh, that explains a lot about seeing arcteryx becoming so commonplace even amongst regular folks who don't care about fashion. had no idea about gorpcore lol. Was confused to see it popping up because arcteryx jackets were real popular among graffiti writers to steal and show off and thats what i always associated it with lol. kinda like the polo booster gangs in the 90s

[@gintaraszukas9672]

I did not expect this to be an actual unironic video with that title.

[@Safewoood]

Ive waltzed around in ski gear my whole life and now im suddenly afassion icon

[@SunnySunny-kh3co]

Great way to finish video with a heavy jungle drop;D

[@cholera1186]

Fascinating video

[@ianthrockmorton9167]

I must be the Übermensch of Gorpcore, since I have access to government issued/restricted Arc'teryx gear and other goodies. Never knew this was a fashion thing, but it totally makes sense...

[@elijahedwards6571]

What sector of the government is issuing Arc'teryx. I know tech giants do sometimes... never heard of gov doing it though.

[@ianthrockmorton9167]

@@elijahedwards6571 Not issued normally, but only available to government/Fed employees and contracts. Often LEO have access to purchase these items too. It's not "issued" per say, but if you're not the one paying for it not much difference in my book. Are you familiar with the LEAF series? Usually tech giants don't have much use in buying their folks (i.e. issuing) combat knee pads and balaclavas.

[@bihansiceklone]

@@elijahedwards6571im guessing military, sounds like this stuff would be very useful to soldiers being exposed to the conditions outside

[@skyscraper5910]

Kinda late (is gorp still a thing?) but great vid/topic.

[@CyborgNinjaNinja]

You really dropped a lingo sound bite😂

[@boris770]

this is the best video i think i have ever watched

[@_R_E_D_A_C_T_E_D_]

Just learned about Gorpcore and I straight up hate it. It's why I now have to spend 1500+ USD for a new set of Arcteryx leaf alpha when it's soon worn out from years of outdoors hobbies...

[@zachariah7114]

And WHY do you have to buy Arcteryx?

[@TheMcspreader]

'Cos it fits over his fleecy pelt and works with cloven hooves.

[@From614th]

Good take and video, learnt a few things :) thx

[@mr.b5187]

Gore also strong arms companies into using their membrane as they’re the most popular brand in waterproofing. Fortnine does a seriously good dive into Goretex from the motorcycle end of outerwear.

[@ulflyng4072]

So for the breathable membrane to work, you need a warterproof treatment on the outside of the fabric......🤔.....why then have the membrane?

[@kid-red]

great edits

[@jdowns]

The original Hunger Games film costume design (in the games) was definitely early in the gorpcore trend/wave.

[@honkhonkgetbonk3331]

what is the source of the first clip of the man under the rock?

[@backseatslidepuzzle]

There's this waterproofing spray called atsko water-guard i bought because it was advertised as a silicon-based spray. Does anyone know if it contains fluoride chains?

[@gustavgnoettgen]

Never heard of it until this video. Which happens a lot for some reason.