The Deprogram Episode 48 - Conservopedia

[@frozengansit0]

I'm half Indian (native American) i use the word Indian over native American to remind everyone the so-called superior race was so superior that they didn't even know what hemisphere they were in.

[@Darloss9508]

So it wasn t just some Zizek joke, you people actually do that huh. Awesome.

[@ghostnoodle9721]

Honestly Nazis just seemed salty of their younger successful brother

[@frozengansit0]

@@Darloss9508 i do it. But I got it from zizek

[@joshuamarx8209]

The Lakota people on the Pine Ridge Reservation (prisoner of war camp #44) came to the same conclusion after AIM was crushed by the FBI..

[@goutamboppana961]

in what area of medicine does hakim do his job? how old is he?

[@KickinRadTopHat]

Conservapedia is really interesting to me because to even begin to believe the kind of stuff you find on it you have to lack an understanding of the world that i didn’t think was even possible anymore. It’s like how a medieval peasant would view reality.

[@wister8528]

not even a medieval peasant, they probably wouldn't spend their time coming up with this shit. like imagine fucking writing that fidel castro was actually dead and some 30 y/o replaced him with such tenacity to defend this statement

[@sykora9526]

I grew up in a conservative family, and thought their way up until I was like 16ish. The entire goal of conservatism is the maintenance of the status quo, living in their own little isolated bubble, and glory worshipping authority figures. They discourage curiosity, any time you question anything, the answer is always "because that's the way things are, shut up and be grateful". If they can control everything you see, think about, care about, etc, then you never see the real world. Just the world the capitalists want you to see. It also helps that when you're white, middle class (back in the day when that existed), and Christian, you don't face any injustices from the system. In fact the system actively courts you and makes you believe that it works, because if it works for you then it must work for everyone else. I was lucky enough to go to a diverse high school and see what others went through, and have people call me out on my shitty beliefs. A lot of kids growing up in conservatism don't get that chance. They live in a white only, often times gated community. And even if they don't, suburbia has isolated us all into our own little picket fence cubicles, and society told us not to trust our neighbors. So we stay in our bubbles. So a lot of those conservatives are too old and entrenched in their ideas by the time they even hear about anything alternative to the status quo. It's sad.

[@bobohonkins]

First 4 minutes are a real rollercoaster...

[@musicdev]

I saw this comment right as I loaded the video and it still could not have prepared me for what a ride the beginning of this episode was lmao

[@emanuelneagu14]

welcome if you're new

[@josephspurgis7782]

Sees comment:"fingered a dead man"

[@mrboomward]

“Not people, patients” is still somehow the most hilariously unhinged

[@bringurownvibe]

conservapedia- cites source Source- I MADE IT THE FUCK UP

[@CraigKeidel]

"Trust me bro"

[@Aermydach]

~24:00 Australian here. Sorry, JT. We haven't been on fire since 2019/20. Instead we've been underwater, thanks to floods driven by El Nino, the Indian Ocean Dipole and another ocean system I can't recall. Don't worry. When things dry out, we'll be on fire again.

[@bevis5372]

In my town they have conspiracies that the government is seeding the clouds to make it keep raining; climate change cope in Australia is real

[@Hjalteetwtefugkcl]

Lmao

[@comradelarry2558]

That's OK one of my conservative former co-workers was convinced Antifa and China were responsible for Australian wildfires. I'm sure there was uhhh Soros involved somehow...

[@goutamboppana961]

hahahaha wtf

[@seekingabsolution1907]

Just found out Habibi means my love and is a term of endearment for platonic and none familial relationships and that's such a sweet phrase. Makes me want to cry.

[@nicelittlestyleslad]

it's quite beautiful

[@KR-mm4el]

41:27 - Jt's Obamna impersonation

[@nicholascharles9625]

Yay hakim is back! I missed hearing about what kind of balls he's seen this week. Such a shame he wasnt in the 9/11 episode his perspective would have been great in that discussion. Also conservapedia claims Joe Biden is a marxist leninist and also follows socialism with Chinese characteristics.

[@mrmoth26]

Comrade Biden

[@Hjalteetwtefugkcl]

And xi jinping thought what ever that means

[@thomasprat7760]

And 79% of Americans don’t think he won legitimately.

[@nicholascharles9625]

@@thomasprat7760 the number isn't nearly that high last I checked maybe among Republicans but I couldn't care they're different shades of shit. In the green book kadaffi in the problems of democracy chapter he pretty much destroys liberal "democracy" in 2 pages and explains how its a form of dictatorship. Ironic coming from him but the man was spitting facts.

[@nicholascharles9625]

@@mrmoth26 God I wish

[@emperorspock3506]

Re: Solzhenitsyn, it's also worth noting that he was a frontline officer of the Red Army when he sent the letter. He one hundred percent knew that military counterintelligence opens and reads all that stuff, usually pretty explicitly, with stamps, bureaucracy, and everything, it's normal shit in wartime, and especially frontline, conditions. So there is an idea that the letter was intentional, because our future Nobel laureate just didn't want to die in the last few months of the war, and he knew that he would come very much alive (if a bit inconvenienced) out of imprisonment. And sadly, he was right.

[@anmolt3840051]

LMAO ... Smart of him. Imagine if he was a Muslim American soldier in Afghanistan/Iraq. Would have ended up being tortured and vaporized at a CIA black site

[@cephalonbob15]

Night shifts are perfectly fine and doesn't destroy your health. meanwhile hakim: looks 80 at 40

[@Sasheto05]

Wait is he 40? He sounds younger.

[@TheMoistestNugget]

@@Sasheto05 i think its just the meme

[@geobot9k]

@@Sasheto05 I think he's ~ mid 20-ish

[@kevinmulkerrins605]

@@Sasheto05 They said that he's the youngest, and JT is about 30 based on some of the things I noticed him saying

[@kevinmulkerrins605]

I'm easily older than all of them because I remember JT saying that he was picked up at school on September 11th. I was hungover that morning

[@miaumiau679]

Thanks hakim ive been having hiccups lately 😭😭 now i know what to do

[@Ajente02]

We have a weirder, more openly fascistic version of Conservapedia in Spanish: Metapedia. It's a fascinating read for anyone interested on the twisted (and most of the time self-contradictory) worldview of actual fascists and neonazis. Also, as a Political Science graduate, I can 100% confirm: I had not a single Marxist teacher.

[@nusquamnemo4780]

Había olvidado que Metapedia existía XD

[@52flyingbicycles]

Both my AP Microeconomics teachers were very clearly laissez faire capitalist yet that class nonetheless was highly informative of my left wing politics

[@PotatoZak]

45:40 "I would eat Lenin's ass if it would make him rise from the grave." -Hakim, The Deprogram Podcast - Episode 48

[@YenRestherac]

I won't forget that😭🤣

[@Yupthatsme_7D]

glad to hear all your voices again

[@minhducnguyen9276]

That's why "Fact over emotion" as the buzzword only work for the conservatives for the first few years because that's an invitation to a citing sources fight which they know they can't win.

[@populus024]

I absolutely loved JT’s Obama voice! I literally burst out laughing

[@lucidity1]

I am always surprised at how much text Conservapedia has, given it's likely typed with one hand on the keyboard and the other on the "joystick". I thought this was a hilarious episode but, if any of you died inside from hearing this, Hakim knows just what to do with you now that you are a lifeless husk.

[@aimless_aimer7936]

I like knowing my opposition tbh. There are some conservative ideology videos explained by conservatives that I've been watching lately and it's just fascinating seeing them define themselves.

[@dragsvart]

a follow up to this episode might be interesting. I imagine conservopedia has some crazy articles about transgender people and lgbt people in general.

[@billul1]

I think the "Authoritarian Scotland" thing might reference that time the youtuber count dunkula got arrested for uploading video of his dog doing the nazi salute. It was legitimately like a big culture war thing at the moment and that line might've been written back then.

[@petrosstefanidis6396]

45:19 omg what did my poor ears just heard!💀

[@will823]

The introduction of the PATIENT SANDWICH

[@matthewroberts6833]

I remember Dave Barry, a famous American Libertarian comedy writer, spent a good five months cracking almost nothing but Fidel is Dead jokes back when the rumor started up. Slightly better than his usual material, frankly.

[@kevinmulkerrins605]

Hakim: You are correct about Romney. Ish. It was a long time ago, but I think that Ted Kennedy was part of drafting it before he died. It's also worth noting that Romney was governor of Massachusetts, which is kinda toe to toe with California as far as the liberal to progressive spectrum goes. So while Romney is a Republican, he's historically had to portray himself as a moderate, at least here in Massachusetts

[@thatponybro6940]

yooo, Hakim is back, inshallah!

[@danielmuradgultom8282]

*Alhamdulillah

[@Ryan-dp4rs]

Mashallah

[@PMac13]

"Where's your citation?" *hands crack pipe* "there's your fuckin citation"

[@crashb800]

The AIDS denialism take is about homophobia. People attached HIV and AIDS to gays so having a weird take on AIDS is likely about homophobia.

[@boltedmeal8182]

We're getting Ecofascism when climate change really starts hammering down. Start organizing! Thank you for the laughs :)

[@miserychickadee]

Ooh, Conservopedia! That takes me back.

[@jakobsmith4046]

The other day I got an ad for a conservative search engine don't remember the name but I clicked it and searched Marxism just for laughs and most of the links were from the heritage foundation😂😂

[@wordofyourbody3252]

I do that with Christian colleges in the US. So entertaining.

[@salvi92]

Yes let's goo Hakim is back im obsessed with this podcast

[@jansecj9472]

Funny how every time these conservative "intellectual" minds try to describe socialism or marxism, they end up describing fucking capitalism with 100% accuracy.

[@bullymaguire1087]

I work in a kitchen/cafe at a hospital and I can confirm we demolish food meant for patients all the time. The other day my manager literally gave me some Oreos meant for patients so I could put them in my pudding

[@adamthethird4753]

Hakim my guy, good to hear you again.

[@thomasprat7760]

Damn I was getting desperate. I need my weekly hour of Hakim.

[@InGenSB]

That was the funniest episode. D&D session with rimming necromancer as a class, anyone? And yea, Poland is stronk with conservative cop&paste nonsense...

[@TheDoctor7557]

As a Pennsylvanian this information saddens me

[@KekusMagnus]

Oh god, I remember hate-reading that 10 years ago, never knew it is still a thing, though it clearly has not evolved since

[@djdrogs]

Hi guys. I've been listening to your old podcasts after finding them via second thought. As an anarchist I've always tried to raise class consciousness around me and in my family, and I think your content are great tools to help with this so thanks' for all the work you guys do! I do have some personal doubts about communism, and if you have the time I had a couple of questions regarding your talks and communism in general that I hope you can answer. When, in the L's of former socialism, you spoke about the bad thing's people say about socialism you touched on surveillance and censorship. While I agree with what you said about the current system, I was left feeling a bit concerned because you kinda did some "what about ism". Do you think mass surveillance is acceptable or necessary in a socialist society? Also, I may be showing my ignorance here, but do you think the hyper centralisation and specialisation of the soviet union was right? Or do you think they should have made cities/regions more self sustainable? I'm concerned you didn't mention mass starvation as an "L", but if I have my history wrong I'm open to being educated. Of course I understand nothing exists in a bubble and there were many factors at play, including western interference and the geographical/geopolitical situation, so I'm interested in your opinion on these issues. I also have some concerns about separatists, or people who don't want to be part of a socialist society. Do you think socialism should consider those people, or are they just to be absorbed by any means or excluded? Does it necessarily need to be all encompassing? The drive to eliminate other ways of life (travelers, tribes) is one of the failings of the current system imo. Basically I am educating myself about communism with your help and I just want to put my mind at ease before getting my little brother involved. (I'm only at episode 11 so apologies if you've covered this stuff since). I know you guys don't speak for all the socialists in the world, but I wanted your personal take because I find your content so well put together I want to share it. Thanks again for the work you're doing! Keep it up! D.

[@andresabourin2423]

Can someone explain the Contrapoints thing they were laughing at? I haven't watched her for YEARSSS

[@Bob-bs9ok]

Gonna bump in case someone anwers

[@Ajente02]

Where did they mention Contrapoints? I didn't heard it.

[@iwasontoeveryplay8874]

Her “Envy” video

[@52flyingbicycles]

She releases like one video per year so you haven’t missed much

[@RedScareClair]

I definitely didn't see Mayor Pete's dad coming. I completely thought it was going to be AOC and Bernie. I guess going after the less obvious proves how deep your research is 🤣

[@charlesdaloz2547]

To be fair, Joseph Buttigieg was probably more of a leftist than AOC and Bernie. One of the main things he did in his career was to translate Gramsci's Prison Notebooks from Italian to English, which you probably wouldn't do if you're not some kind of socialist Either way he is indeed pretty irrelevant to mention lol

[@Akaykimuy]

I'm glad I actually did have left leaning professors at uni, and in high school my history/philosophy teacher was explicitly socialist

[@charlesdaloz2547]

42:45 hey, does anyone have a source for the racist Arendt quote? I can't find one

[@Ajente02]

If it should be somewhere, I'd guess is in his book _"The Origins of Totalitarianism"._

[@52flyingbicycles]

If socialism is a religion because they have statues, does that mean the Confederacy was a religion?

[@diegojensen8628]

Conservapedia is wild to me

[@MMReleese]

Would be cool if you could make an episode about what's going on in Iran right now

[@tankpiggy]

I have always wanted someone to cover that dogshit website.

[@wister8528]

more polish representation in conservapedia

[@kahldrialeighsun1208]

I wish there was a live chatroom we could all hang out & talk in...is that what discord is? I missed the boat on some things for unfun health reasons. ❤

[@anmolt3840051]

Honestly better that way. Too much social media is not good for health

[@djglockmane]

That Is what discord Is yes

[@kahldrialeighsun1208]

@@djglockmane Thank you😁

[@BeyondFunction1]

There's no way this guy isn't the spawn of Phyllis Schlafly.

[@ohanneskamerkoseyan3157]

The deprogram files should definitely do 44:04 - 46:00

[@mbg8733]

You didn't even mention E=MC2. Direct Quote: E=MC2 is liberal claptrap

[@CraigKeidel]

The guy who wrote that definitely thought highly of himself when he hit submit lol

[@nektariosorfanoudakis2270]

A looong time ago Conservapedia had an article on the Greek Civil War, (or was it the Greek Resistance?) which was basically the pro-EAM version! Who did this to poor American Conservatives?😭

[@CollieCam]

Hello, Comrades!

[@shanefoster2132]

Obamaism. Beautiful.

[@salsicha5305]

As a Brazilian I apologise. Our right wing is as unhinged, if not more so, than the American one. The left is better though.

[@maxmeggeneder8935]

Dear Yugopnik, iconoclasm doesn't mean what you think it means. O7

[@shenbapiro1291]

Badempanada on when

[@joshuaparsons887]

Bruh

[@donthavemyoldphonesoimaden6947]

Woooo

[@RuhrDim]

😁👍

[@RomanianStrongMan]

hakim, stop self-deprecating on your english! you speak with a command of that language!

[@VivaciousBelligerent]

I really want to like this video, but it will take the number of likes from 969 to 970, and I just can't bring myself to do it....

[@VivaciousBelligerent]

So I'll just double-comment for the algorithm instead ✌️

[@ClassicalTraining]

It has changed now, so you can like that, and all the other videos, and the Hakim, and the Yugopnik, and the Second Thought, and the First Thought videos! P.S.: does that really bump the algorithm? How does that work? Does the algorithm promote the videos that have more views, or likes, or comments? Or shares?

[@pallingtontheshrike6374]

13:55 it's just anti-semitism but dressed up lol

[@pomopodo]

Anti-war conservatives? Si just paleoconservative

[@Literally-hw6jv]

not a word on the iran protests? Very interesting.

[@YaBoiHakim]

not the topic of the episode my man

[@toomuchadam875]

@@YaBoiHakim how dare you not cover that specific thing that's going on in the world in an episode with a clear topic! 🤓

[@adamgibson473]

There was way too much chuckling and laughing. This was a little hard to listen to.

[@lucidity1]

I am always surprised at how much text Conservapedia has, given it's likely typed with one hand on the keyboard and the other on the "joystick". I thought this was a hilarious episode but, if any of you died inside from hearing this, Hakim knows just what to do with you now that you are a lifeless husk.