The False Appeal of Communism

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[@JordanBPeterson]

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[@warpshield]

Thank you for what you are doing for the world today to help us see thru the lies. As someone with Asperger's/HFA, moving into a pure relativistic society is hell on earth for me. If you ever make it to Atlanta, GA I would love to see one of your live events. God Bless you.

[@turkeyssr]

Take a listen to 2112 by Rush a Canadian band: We've taken care of everything The words you hear the songs you sing The pictures that give pleasure to your eyes. It's one for all and all for one We work together common sons Never need to wonder how or why.

[@SvartVargSkog]

NatSoc is not faciscm.

[@Tabu11211]

Please add a link to the full video on the shorts. Thank you. :)

[@vmwindustries]

Jordan, and you please tell people the difference between communism, and our centrist democratic capitalist socialist society. Because we pay taxes for schools and fire fighters, parks, and recreation.

[@arbiter8246]

Some Aryans were also sent to concentration camps for speaking out against the Nazis.

[@Victoria_Loves_Jesus]

@Cyber Ranger thank you, exactly

[@FHBStudio]

@Cyber Ranger Didn't Japan believe in their own glorious racial destiny all the same?

[@Sich97]

@@Victoria_Loves_Jesus But that doesn't make Peterson's argument in this video any less valid.

[@thaddeusal-britani1099]

Indians are literally aryan

[@jdee8407]

How many millions died for speaking out against the Communist?

[@rahn45]

"The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few, or the one." Poetic perhaps, but oh so easy to abuse and twist.

[@saughs]

For sure. The idea that the individual or the minority must be disregarded in the name of the "common good" has been a common denominator for some of the worst atrocities in history. It's a convenient excuse to get people to support evil, because they think the ends will justify the means. Evil is evil, no matter what your cause supposedly is.

[@ravenstarver1360]

In Spock's case it was in the context of voluntary sacrifice for the greater good. Taken to the extreme you force people to do what is best for the state.

[@Dengar004]

As a Trekkie I like to think that particular Vulcan credo was a call to voluntary self sacrifice, though I do admit it could very easily be taken as justification for violations of personal liberty.

[@ravenstarver1360]

@@Dengar004 yea exactly

[@zijianzhao8419]

Bottom up communism = generosity = virtue Top down communism = hypocrisy = evil

[@roymerritt348]

In other words, a poison which is bitter is actually better because most people will stay away from it. A poison which is sweet to the tongue and lulls you to sleep is worse because people don't know the harm until it's too late and their heart stops.

[@ryantogo8359]

True, but don't forget that they're both poison. It's just that the sweet one is harder to identify and defeat

[@davidjackson9680]

@@ryantogo8359we didn’t defeat the Soviet Union what happened in Russia was a success withou the soviets Russia Ukraine Georgia lots of other Slav counties would be illiterate and enslaved by the tsardom who made peoples lives hell stalin made big mistakes and was far from a saint but he took a region of uneducated people who were still using horse and carriage to get around when other counties already had cars and even with that huge setback they industrialized and caught up to the world on 40 years where under capitalism in America it took over a century to get to the point they did

[@jamesginty6684]

have you seen "'The Nazis Were Socialists!': Debunked Once And For All" by owen jones on youtube?

[@Styxswimmer]

​@David Jackson the only reason communism caught up so quick is because stalin basically said "work or die".

[@ADerpyReality]

Sugar

[@KeithCindyPanama]

HUD secretary Ben Carson said: Home property ownership is the path for family wealth 🎉

[@mrknarf4438]

It reminded me of this quote: "Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience." ~C.S. Lewis

[@Jokertech1995]

Thank you for this.

[@nuancecontraire]

This is from an essay of his?

[@Jokertech1995]

@@nuancecontraire No the author C.S. Lewis is attributed at the bottom.

[@davidbeppler3032]

America in a nut shell.

[@nellanellaperched6767]

Perfect quote

[@thanksfernuthin]

A government powerful enough to give you everything you want is powerful enough to take everything you have.

[@ruthnovena40]

The sep. powers in the constitution is so important. states have power. fed. gov. have power. BUT so do the republic( the people).

[@livewire2759]

@@ruthnovena40 The people don't have power. States and fed govts. have the power to use violence to force the people to comply, yet they don't even want us to have the power to defend ourselves against that violence, and we damn sure don't have the power to use violence against them... not as individuals at least.

[@kashifshehzad2328]

This applies to capitalist governments too.

[@bruhsoulz3347]

@@kashifshehzad2328 great point, at least a communist government is actually giving people something

[@adrianleusink1970]

Well said

[@alexref955]

“We will come to your country in the name of democracy” - Americans

[@neon3.641]

Nice whataboutism

[@nevadataylor]

... and America tore down all the democracies of the other competing countries. With all the resources it has, why isnt Africa a rich country again?

[@alexref955]

@@nevadataylor Africa is not a country

[@nimbus500]

@@alexref955Tbf @Nevadataylor 's point is just that a statement such as this sounds contrarian, when the deeper reality here is that all countries engage in the same business, which is to be powerful, while on average people act very diversely to the point that certain ideas arise, and that from these ideas, for better or for worse, the world is negatively effected in the sense that this power struggle destroys something good, so with any idea with need to be very careful with our conclusions

[@ArsenicPoisoning69]

RAAAAHHHHH🦅🦅🦅💥💥💥🇺🇲🇺🇸🇺🇲🇺🇸🇺🇲🇺🇸

[@darkcavelierxx6996]

The bad thing about communism is that its actually imposible to find a leader who will keep valuing the good of the people above his own for long periods of time.A leader who is ready to sacrifice everything for the country and has all the power to do so is infinitle better than 300 politicians who squable over who gets more money in their pockets while the people suffer but once that person falls from grace and thinks himself as a god its all over.Not to mention the fact that even if by absurdity you never get greedy there will be people who will stop at nothing to remove your from power to claim it as their own and do as they see fit with it

[@laurioho2041]

you mean like lenin and stalin.

[@vjmnn-kx3pv]

人民代表大会可以吗？

[@Blaze6108]

That's great, because communism is about systemic change and not picking a better dictator.

[@emilianosintarias7337]

what does communism have to do with a leader?

[@JasonGoodfellow]

The Soviets were 'worker councils'. Democratic centralism is way more democratic than what we have now. Why didn't it work yet? USSR was under developed, then attacked, then embargoed, had to deal with revisionism, then succumed to capitalist forces. Same as any socialist experiment.

[@dellonman]

The road to hell is paved with good intentions and lined with the graves of the betrayed.

[@matridaakili7140]

This is deep

[@jamesginty6684]

have you seen "'The Nazis Were Socialists!': Debunked Once And For All" by owen jones on youtube?

[@magical5181]

@@jamesginty6684 Whats the history about nazis being socialists

[@salogenosse]

You will know them by their deeds. Much more good deeds remain from the communists than from their opponents

[@rifleman4005]

​@@jamesginty6684 yes. It was garbage.

[@tmcche7881]

A rose by any other name still has thorns that pierce the skin.

[@ganjaericco]

"Now a derogatory mention of recent attempts to seek the origin of justice elsewhere, - namely in ressentiment. A word in the ear of the psychologists, assuming they are inclined to study ressentiment close up for once: this plant thrives best amongst anarchists and anti Semites today, so it flowers like it always has done, in secret, like a violet but with a different scent. And just as like always gives rise to like, it will come as no surprise to find attempts coming once more from these circles, as so often before to sanctify revenge with the term justice - as though justice were fundamentally simply a further development of the feeling of having been wronged." Nietzsche, Genealogy of Morals

[@Headlock123456789]

Is that how the full expression goes? “A rose by any other name…” is all I heard before. Odd that I’ve never heard it complete like that. It’s a good one.

[@quentinkozma]

@@Headlock123456789 it’s not the correct ending of the phrase…

[@Michael-Archonaeus]

Life is like a dance on roses, it is beautiful, and it makes you bleed.

[@Headlock123456789]

@@quentinkozma What is it then? As I said, I’ve never heard it concluded before.

[@malcolmnicoll1165]

“Communism doesn’t work because people like to own stuff.” - Frank Zappa

[@seth7745]

And becasue people like not starving to death for "the greater good"

[@Cardoo46]

@@seth7745 where are there not soup kitchens or food banks in this country? Where are more people starving than anywhere in the world?

[@seth7745]

​@@Cardoo46 likely some 3rd world country somewhere. I don’t see the relevance.

[@seth7745]

@@Cardoo46 They greatest man made famine ever was Holodomor during the height of communism in the Soviet Union.

[@Cardoo46]

@@seth7745 more people live in poverty in socialist countries, the money is worthless and everything is very expensive.

[@luisaguilar7997]

“Communism achieved its goal in wanting to administrate things so that people could be free, only in order to achieve this, they first turned people into things” -Albert Camus

[@salogenosse]

When you are unable to manage yourself to perceive Communism, then you were already nothing more than a thing, a consumer, an NPC, Like a monkey, unable to live among people except in a cage.

[@alrizo1115]

Well capitalism did turn people into things too. You have a choice to be poor

[@nsgswitchblade1455]

The many commas make this hard to understand, but I finally got it. Good quote though

[@SusanaRosende]

There is NO FREEDOM in Communism; there is extreme censorship and control.

[@Cardoo46]

@@alrizo1115 well, if you’ve ever spoken to someone who actually lived in a Communist country, they say, it’s still a hierarchical system of haves versus have nots…people with money still have power. And those who don’t are powerless.. Go figure?

[@ThePiggiestOne]

What he's saying here is that if your Utopia requires lying and twisting reality, it's a guarantee for hell, the same way it would be if you would lie for a selfish, fascist and tyrannical end.

[@Morlock1943]

Some would say the same about american capitalism.

[@westcoastmediasolutions]

@@Morlock1943 America nor any country for that matter truly practice pure capitalism. Anytime you have social services, social programs, interfering of the markets etc you’ve polluted capitalism.

[@nielsdejong]

@@Morlock1943 Difference is, is that capitalism has reduced the amount of people who suffer under severe poverty drastically. Under capitalism, people die from diabetes. Under socialism/communism/progressivism, people die from hunger.

[@golagiswatchingyou2966]

All nations and ideologies lie, there is no real respect for the truth when it comes to power.

[@dontbugme7362]

The Commie UtopiaCrats want to build a wonderful world…and will kill anyone that stands in their way. It’s “for the greater good” you see…

[@KigreTheViking]

"Power attracts the worst and corrupts the best." -Ragnar Lothbrok.

[@MrLeolesh]

it just attracts the worst, and they are the only ones successful at attaining it for long enough to matter. The best want nothing to do with power, or will always lose to the corrupt in the long run.

[@Nyconbr]

Power doesn't corrupt good people, it's evil people that use corruption as a requirement to power. Power just amplifies the person's personality

[@mylifeisnapless]

@@Nyconbr You can trust me with power. I'm a good person. I won't be corrupted. Are you one of these good people? You won't be tempted, will you? No, you won't. Just like I won't, because we're good people.

[@redndeadlydragon]

DUH

[@CsillaX]

R.i.P. Ragnar

[@patientlywatching7775]

You cannot have communism and Christianity at the same time. That is a really succinct statement Dr. Peterson pointed out.👍

[@laurioho2041]

ofc you can, those two ideologies are inherently compatible.

[@ryandavies1968]

Capitalism has turned Christianity into a commercialism. Every Christian holiday is about consuming products now. If tomorrow it was shown to be profitable to ban it you can bet they would do so. Christianity also had a lot of socialist values that it shares with communism so unfortunately you have been misled by the ruling class.

[@flabiger]

​@@laurioho2041You should read the Catholic Church's Decree against Communism. Catholics who participate in Communism are excommunicated because it is incompatible.

[@midgetcowboy3454]

@@laurioho2041 Not really. What you may be thinking of is the general idea of Christian generosity, in which, as seen by the early church, the believers would sell their good and give their funds to the church in order to meet the needs of other struggling believers. That is drastically different from a government-enforced redistribution of wealth in order to create an artificial equality of outcome among the citizenry. You see? one is rooted in love, while the other is rooted in coercion and fear (and theft, if you really think about it). Not to mention the fact that when Communism is enforced, the common person finds himself in a greater state of suffering.

[@MrNinjaFish]

@@laurioho2041 You can't. Communism fundamentally requires the abolition of ALL religious and spiritual beliefs, even things like Buddhism and Paganism would have to be eliminated. Any kind of metaphysical thought is not allowed under communism.

[@JorgeHernandez-lu1mi]

Nothing that has to be sold at gunpoint or with jail threats will ever be worth much, it doesn't matter WHAT you call it.

[@ducklord3604]

Ironic considering you're describing America

[@ryandavies1968]

Tell that to the communists and union members jailed and killed around the world for simply being communist. And keep telling yourself capitalism is the ideology of "freedom".

[@gormok9558]

​@@ducklord3604🤖🤖

[@nevadataylor]

Sounds like capitalism to me. Why isnt Africa a rich country again?

[@VON-O5]

Capitalism is the system that is sold at gunpoint. An example would be what happened in Chile. Chile at one point became a socialist society, this socialist system was democratically elected by the citizens. However, the United States did not like socialism, so they forcibly overthrew the democratically elected socialist government and replaced it with a capitalist government that murdered tens of thousands of civilians. This new capitalist government was NOT democratically elected, it was forced upon the Chilean people at gunpoint. Also, forcing a socialist or communist system with guns and violence is justified. Capitalism is the number 1 threat to humanity and destroying the capitalist system with guns and violence is completely justified and is an act of self-defense. The Chile example I gave is the exception, not the rule, the chances of a socialist or communist system being democratically put in place is extremely low. As of right now, if we want to implement socialism and eventually communism, the working class needs to organize and arm themselves. One last thing, the people who would be forcing a socialist and eventually communist system at gunpoint would be the working class, which makes up 99% of the population. The ones being held at gunpoint would be the ruling class, which makes up 0.1% of the population. Whenever a capitalist system is forcibly implemented through guns, the ones being held at gunpoint are the working class, and the ones holding the guns are the ruling class.

[@DarkCT]

precisely. you can commit so much pain by claiming your "doing good". theres obvious evil acts, and then theres ones sugarcoated as if they are not.

[@roberto2568]

we will lock you to protect you and the others, we will take your food to protect the planet etc etc .... the problem is people are blind. SRI LANKA needs to happen in every single country in the world! ...and the situation over there is just going to be mentioned few times and be forgoten (intentionally)

[@Tester-sh1mn]

*cough* Christian missionaries *cough*

[@blanktrigger8863]

​​@@Tester-sh1mnhristian missionaries are quite often blamed for what the state did, so this is a false comparison. (And even if granted that said blame should stick, the rest of the world could have been similar to the West if they didn't insist of paganism over and against the missionaries. Instead they remain hella steps behind.)

[@jamesginty6684]

have you seen "'The Nazis Were Socialists!': Debunked Once And For All" by owen jones on youtube?

[@duncanalderdice]

“Lying in the service of future utopia is just as much a pathway to hell as lying in the service of a fascist state” Well said.

[@fpereira77]

Well said, but what is he referring to? What does he mean. His words are empty. We don't have a single example in history of a true communist country. The communist manifesto does not leave room for dictatorships. If you see a communist country that is led by a dictator... Well then by design it's not communism.

[@paulboegel8009]

There is no utopia, and there never will be.

[@duncanalderdice]

@@fpereira77 Okay, I have a couple questions in reference to what you said: How wasn’t the USSR communist? What does “true communism” roughly look like?

[@HillcrestGames]

@@paulboegel8009 There might be a long term path to one that neither of us will see. A Star Trek sort of deal. Extreme near-infinite abundance paired with a strict meritocracy and voluntary culture of responsibility and duty. Maybe if people live to be 200 then more people will be wise rather than unwise and such a thing could be possible.

[@aquili1]

🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮

[@god-fearing6103]

"Power corrupts. Absolute power absolutely corrupts."

[@nevadataylor]

Kind of like this capitalist oligarch we live under now, wouldnt you say?

[@god-fearing6103]

@@nevadataylor True.

[@georgenelson3719]

We don't have a problem that is caused by capitalism, we have a gov that is 'run' by treasonous criminals. Capitalism is not evil, it is a human construct and thus is entirely what we make it to be. What do you suggest we replace the constitution and bill of rights with? I don't expect an answer from you, this is something for you to ponder -- systems of governance and economics do not dictate results, only people are capable of that@@nevadataylor

[@unionofsovietsocialistrepu5044]

The difference between them is that Nazism was racial exclusion and Communism is ideological exclusion

[@luigimrlgaming9484]

One has a limit, the other doesn’t.

[@anaderol5408]

@@luigimrlgaming9484 Interesting comment - I wonder what would have happened if Hitler had managed to exterminate all non "Aryans" and Jews - who would he exterminated next? Theoretically he had a limit but I suspect he would have continued.

[@salogenosse]

The difference is much greater than between Сapitalism and Nazism. Indeed, what is the difference between Capitalism and Nazism? Putting Nazism on the same level as communism is a dirty manipulation, like saying the Nazism was not so bad compared to communism and democracy.

[@unionofsovietsocialistrepu5044]

@@salogenosse I don't quite understand what you mean, could you please refrase the reply? I'm confused to answer it

[@salogenosse]

@@unionofsovietsocialistrepu5044 This is the manipulation that the pro-fascists use to shifting the Overton window. It's like comparing Nazism with Democracy. It's like saying that the only difference is that democracy is a utopia and lie, because there is no absolute democracy in real society, and the road to hell is paved with good intentions. So democracy ia an ideological exclusion, giving "no freedom to the enemies of freedom" even in violation of democracy

[@historymatters6627]

Why Free Speech is so important. ideology can only grow in the shadows, it is exposed in the light

[@davidbeppler3032]

Freedom of speech is not freedom from consequences of your speech.

[@historymatters6627]

@@davidbeppler3032 If there is evidence then there might be consequences, but not if it's just hurt feelings..

[@straaths]

@@historymatters6627 it depends whos feelings you hurt.

[@davidbeppler3032]

@@EarlOSandwich if it gets thousands of people killed, I suggest execution. What do you think?

[@mac9954]

Free Gaza he can't talk about it

[@Fotoschiki]

It's so iconic, isn't it? So lying, stealing and killing, especially in the name of some shallow substitute idol for god is wrong? Sounds a lot like a summary of the ten commandments. And what was the first thing that happened after Moses decended with the ten commandments? They replaced god with a golden claf. A hollow replacement for god that looks nice on first glance, but holds no value or truth. I don't see a big difference between an idol and an ideology. Human nature hasn't changed in the past millenias. But Somehow I find the idea soothing that people 4000 years ago were at least 98% like us. They just had a little less knowlege and no toilet paper.

[@rmg6497]

Thanks! I am an atheist and although I dont believe in communism, a state run by the church/mosque/temple is nightmarish...

[@laurioho2041]

but arent the tablets moses carried also ideology, presuming god didnt exists materially then how is the god calf any different to the moses and his stone tablets.

[@eingyi2500]

​@lauri oho I don't think the idols or the ten commandments were necessarily symbolic. In the Bible, and presumably to the people of the Levant at the time, Idols weren't strictly symbolic but literal manifestations of gods at the time. The ten commandments aren't really idols or symbols either because they're simply a set of rules, but they needed to be written down somehow.

[@AgentSmith911]

"Communism is great!" Communism fails "But that wasn't real communism!"

[@K1ERKEG44RD]

Communism is a stateless, moneyless and classless society, where it is collective ownership to the means of production. The USSR was a federal state, where they used rubles and the means of production was owned by the Nomenklatura upper class.

[@Paul-bd7fe]

@@K1ERKEG44RDokay and the next communist state that fails will be called something else afterward too. It won’t be different this time, abandon ideology.

[@hyfade1245]

Tell me one communist nation.

[@conrmunistcat]

Yes comrade

[@saumyashah4831]

​@@hyfade1245Vietnam, Laos, Cuba Here I gave you 3

[@SaithusX]

I had to listen to it a few times. But it's so profound but at the same time such an obvious statement of what I've been pondering and thinking my entire intellectual life.

[@Cyborg_Lenin]

Its not profound. He explains the most basic idea like fascism being nationalist and communism being itnernationalist. Then made a motalisation on lying pretending that he disproved socialism in any way.

[@con.troller4183]

"... what I've been pondering and thinking my entire intellectual life." If you think that what Peterson just said is profound, your intellectual life is still in diapers.

[@kornelijekovac9793]

Seems like JP doesn't want to understand, communism, the real ups and downsides of real-socialism and the reasons it all collapsed the way that it did.

[@weom1536]

everyone knows communism is meant to be international

[@commercialrealestatephilos605]

The “angels” of the means of production didn’t exist then or now.

[@mustang607]

So many eggs broken, and never an omelette. What does that say about that omelette recipe?

[@Tester-sh1mn]

@@mustang607 It says to get a better fucking chef!

[@adrianleusink1970]

I swear I grow new brain cells whenever I listen to this man. He helps me articulate things so much better in my own life.

[@alvodin6197]

You must have fery few to begin with 😂

[@adrianleusink1970]

@@alvodin6197 You do realize you failed to spell a two syllable word while criticizing someone else's mental capacity?

[@underlord3761]

​@@alvodin6197 you misspelled "very". 🤡.

[@Brick-rv9ov]

@@alvodin6197 there’s no coming back from that one

[@mark-catalinapullen431]

Those glial cells hop a bus for JP shorts brother!

[@williamlafond1319]

Putin be like : "Damn Canada, chill out with the socialism!"

[@MCRuCr]

Every time I listen to that gentleman, I learn a new fancy word

[@parasocialbondsmetaswvoits9078]

interesting

[@forscience9977]

"Aid in the flames" Damn

[@christiancarter0688]

I wish you tube gave an option for saving shorts

[@thewainbows9238]

Love, just love for his intellect his compassion his voice and his message.

[@andrewwillard5773]

Never thought of it that way.. 🤔

[@johnton6488]

Me neither, so I thank JP for an idea. And to further develop his idea of an communism paralleling a Christianity I think this is cardinal error to think that when we let people to get back to their origins they will show a best of them and the paradise will reign on earth. Hell, no! It would be much better, inspiring and motivating thinking of human kind has and is on a complicated path full of mistakes and misery to evolve from animals to an angel-like beings.

[@UranoSteam]

They did their devilish job as intended then. Glad you did now.

[@SA-ig6se]

When people think it’s possible to own nothing and be happy🤡.

[@phantasma8401]

@Russ Ingram 🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑

[@SA-ig6se]

@Russ Ingram communism is a pipe dream that requires the state to enforce it, whether that state is unelected corporatists or Marx loving bolsheviks is irrelevant, someone has to enforce that redistribution of wealth since the majority of sane people are not keen on giving up their wealth and somebody will always be in control of the resources (World Economic Forum or Soviet government)

[@isaiahd5396]

Its possible to own nothing and be happy but you wont be safe ecspecialy when the goverment owns everything

[@dravenocklost4253]

@Russ Ingram when you find out many liberals picked up or were taught by socialists, you will realize we are already near a communist country.

[@Skibbityboo0580]

@@phantasma8401 Ahhh yes, the man gives a detailed account, and you can get away with a single emoji as a response, but somehow he is the sheep.

[@user-ch9my3to6j]

Now I want this guy to be my professor

[@maryw4609]

Profound statement on Nazi and fascist and utopias roads to hell thanks Jordan 😊🎉

[@stannis7640]

Nice!

[@limeros88]

The path to hell are paved with good intentions.

[@ericburns3843]

Then the path to heaven is paved with bad intentions

[@ericburns3843]

I guess that explains Christianity

[@Cyborg_Lenin]

As if bad intentions don't lead to hell.

[@laurioho2041]

define "good" intentions.

[@nawwk79]

“In theory Communism is great, but in practice it’s horrible” - Sun Tzu

[@fr1nkly]

not likely since he was born around 544 BCE

[@ducklord3604]

Why fake a quote for no reason

[@inesxenia]

Comes from the people who practiced racial segregation way till 1960-s, who also sterilized black and Indian women and stole Indian children to be put in white families well in 1970-s. Look hard at the mirror.

[@hindenburg1596]

Are you dense lol

[@stefanschultz601]

it's dumb even in theory because it contradicts human nature. you have to be idealistic beyond reality to honestly believe in it.

[@rabenrabarbersohn3374]

This spurious argument shows that Jordan Peterson has no knowledge whatsoever regarding the theoretical and historical differences regardibg communist and fascist ideology. Arguing in this kind of simplistic way leads nowere except maybe to hayeks horseshoe-theory, I would really appresciate if you would only talk about things that you have some form of expertise in to a big audience online.

[@-cMc-]

It's very predatory

[@nicknoyb8067]

So is democracy. Our Constitution stated that we were a Democratic Republic emphasis on the word Republic now that has been stripped away and we're a democracy and you are labeled as a corporation not an individual. This is why legal definitions matter, because they're used to keep us all enslaved. Just because you don't see any bars doesn't mean that you are not in prison. Fact is you could not get ultra rich by any stretch of the means if you're a person with any kind of empathy. So basically if you could make so much money that you know you're great great great great great great grandchildren could not possibly spend it all even if they tried yet you let most of the world just suffer in poverty and you're okay with that, you are not an empathic person. You are a psychopath like the ones that rule the world because good people with empathy can't find it in them to be enough of a monster to take the power away from psychopaths. It's the age old problem of not being able to kill a monster without becoming a monster yourself.

[@unstable_7071]

​@@nicknoyb8067 88

[@nicknoyb8067]

@@unstable_7071 I'm old bro wtf does 88 mean ?

[@maxsthoughts6204]

Jordan Peterson says absolutely nothing no matter how long or how much he talks. It’s astonishing really

[@perniciouspete4986]

You're misnamed: (the "Thoughts" part).

[@cnm7558]

r u that stupid?

[@lisal6121]

This man is fascinating. He always leaves me with new reasoning to consider. Thank you. ❤

[@lkpnda287]

Great vid!

[@mosesmanaka8109]

Jesus warned, "I come in My Father's Name and you will not accept Me, yet someone else will come in his own name and he you will accept".

[@pornsakpongthong1092]

bummer

[@masada2828]

Where’s the quote?

[@mosesmanaka8109]

@@masada2828 John 5:43

[@ddggfcff]

So Lenin is the Antichrist?

[@douglasgrant8315]

He completely described today's Democratic Party

[@con.troller4183]

You just declared your ignorance of both Communism and the Corporatism of the Dems. Your ass and your elbow. Without using google, which is which?

[@douglasgrant8315]

Corporatism's aims is communism.. And they're using the Democratic Party to achieve their goal.. George Soros had blatenly said this about globalism purpose as a one world society. Meaning they rule we obey.. They want total control-total authority. You dont agree with them they will turn your bank accounts off.. You don't have to throw you in jail just make it impossible for you to do to pay your bills. You're the one that just doesn't get it...

[@con.troller4183]

@@douglasgrant8315 "Corporatism's aims is communism..." BUAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Stay stupid. It suits you.

[@Arcaryon]

Democrats are mostly neo libs and at most social democrats, social democrat meaning social policies funded via a capitalist system, like paying for public education or if you want to exaggerate, public roads. Point is; talk to communists. They will make it very clear what they think of the democrats and you may actually learn a thing or two instead of having to rely on hearsay of a psychologist who thinks being good at one thing means being good at another thing regardless of how uneducated he is. I mean, have you even ever read Adam Smith’s SECOND book? The one people pretty much don’t know even exists? Go ahead, take a look. See how the father of capitalism thought his ideas should be implemented.

[@markoradulovic2825]

I can't wait for him to make a video "the false appeal of capitalism"

[@kenarbes]

Capitalism, for all its faults, has done more to lift people out of poverty than any other system. You can get rich by working. You can get rich by inventing a product other people need. Under Socialism and Communism, you can only get rich by rising in the Party. Don't confuse Capitalism and Rober Baron Capitalism.

[@truefilm6991]

Exactly!

[@hapwn]

Socialism is communism under a different banner.

[@thenewjoe7620]

Every democracy except the USA, practices socialism

[@EvertonMarques]

Most socialists deep down secretly support communism

[@desapole]

that’s just not true. engels himself had some unsavoury things to say about socialists. socialism leaves space for thriving trade and a healthy democracy

[@hapwn]

@@desapole maybe to a point. But understand where it can lead to, when lead by power hungry people who want nothing more than to control US!

[@warrenarthur5629]

It helps to take your partisan glasses off to see that the banner is different. There is a lot of variance on the left, and saying such things is not going to have you taken seriously by them. Preaching to the choir is easy, but preaching to the pagans takes work, and most importantly better thinking and understanding. Of course and echo chamber is nice to be in, but doesn't help in the long term.

[@caluchi]

He is sooo right !! 💯 All those who lived the Communism & the Socialism knows the truth .. a big pathway to HELL

[@MrJeffrey938]

I agree when he says that most people who say that communism COULD work, mean that it could if THEY were in charge. But that doesn't mean it can't work.

[@bradforddean1]

100% true

[@Danny2k38]

Where is this from, anyone have the full video?

[@shanedulay4651]

the link to the full video is in the description

[@bobhopkins3520]

If you can take anyone’s value proposition, like communism, and boil it down to “the end justifies the means” you have identified evil

[@con.troller4183]

" “the end justifies the means” " You mean like Liars For Jesus do? Right. Anything to save people from some imaginary eternal punishment. RIGHT?

[@noway905]

@@con.troller4183 all that disbelieve are condemned already. In these Last Days the wicked, even when presented with truth and undeniable, unexplainable wonders and miracles, will STILL refuse to repent of their wickedness and suffer forever unimaginable suffering. You will remember these words in your punishment, forever. Imagine that. But not for the made up name jesus, which is only around 500 years old. But for the truth of the story you refuse to believe. Gonna suck to be you, real soon.

[@Arcaryon]

The ends of capitalism justify the means by which they are achieved - does that make capitalism “evil”? I don’t think a lot of big ideologies are really evil. The roots of fasc*sm for example are today perhaps some of most misunderstood set of ideas on earth because people associate it with evil and yet so many people are simultaneously practically obsessed with birth rates, not falling behind as a society and talk about being afraid or desiring to be strong - are these people evil? Is imperialism evil? Is colonialism evil? Is communism evil, is democracy evil, is authoritarianism or liberalism evil? I think all of these ideologies can be evil and all of them can be good and everything in between, it depends on your perspective as much as in the ideology itself. The reason why I say this is because if people assume something is evil they often do not engage with it and loose out on important lessons. I am a centrist not in the sense of only thinking in terms of “balance” but in the sense of not liking big ideologies being portrayed as perfect or evil. There are an immense number of branches of, for example capitalist and communist schools and many further variants to the point where identifying one singular idea often becomes a rhetorically impossible task. Individualism is not evil, neither is collectivism, the methods used are what help us define these things better but even they are far from perfect measurements.

[@benniejohnson81]

Thank you, Dr. Peterson! You will be remembered in history as one of the great minds of the 21st century. C.S. Lewis characterized communism as “…a counterfeit to universal charity…”. Another gentleman, whose name I cannot recall at the moment, said that, “…it wasn’t that communism was such a bad idea - but it failed to factor in the depravity of man…” God bless you!

[@ducklord3604]

I can guarantee he won't

[@benniejohnson81]

@@ducklord3604 and how can you make such a guarantee?

[@satokumasmom5348]

Damn Jordan you are looking extremely healthy....love it....stay strong

[@Pepsi-ix8wd]

You can thank the commie Russian doctors that treated him so he can go on KZbin and praise capitalism I guess.

[@Blandyman]

May god have mercy on all those led down the primrose path of collectivism, and upon the innocent lives lost by their machinations.

[@Cyborg_Lenin]

Oh please. Capitalists killed 5 times more people.

[@laurioho2041]

"There is not, nor should there be, an irreconcilable contrast between the individual and the collective, between the interests of an individual person and the interests of the collective." Stalin

[@UnBesoDeCristal]

And why, historically, has communists have been the only consistently resistant party against facism?

[@BrianBourgeois-]

Fascism is simply the other side of the coin. It’s still the same coin.

[@dirtabd]

So Jordan doesnt know the Nazi’s werent Communist? Dr of what again? The Nazi’s hated Communist too idiot.

[@mdorn6592]

It's strange how the younger generation who is quick to reject Christianity would be so eager to jump on the communist/socialist train...I do however realize that they don't have an Ayn Rand of their generation. She definitely painted a picture of a place that I knew I never wanted to go...

[@EcclesiastesLiker-py5ts]

And Rand herself, of course, found solace not in Christ but capital.

[@luc8254]

It's actually not strange at all

[@khurramaziz2430]

Christianity and Capitalism don't go hand in hand, not even one bit. Capitalists, as can be seen in the world are willing to bend morals for money. I'm no Christian but I think Christian as the people of book abide by a moral code.

[@warrenarthur5629]

Its precisely the conflation of Christianity with capitalism that has caused problems in this respect. If you don't like capitalism, the oft-proposed association doesn't engender much support for the other.

[@mdorn6592]

@Russ Ingram If she lived off social security it means she worked and paid in to it...But because she lived through a time period where Russian Czars stole her family's business and her family had to stand in bread lines I think she was more than qualified to write about communism and communist worms ("some of us are more equal than others") that leeched off of hard work of others

[@Happydayz552]

Jordan peterson for Canadian prime minister? 🧡 2025 could be your year

[@nexilitas7030]

Canada doesn't have a president.

[@HugoStiglitz88]

Anybody but trudeau

[@cyrusbaker3551]

He nails them so eloquently.

[@Emma-tb6fv]

Well "cyrus", that screaming coming from your property could only be one of two things, either you have an eight-year-old sharing your MILs patio room, or you have a coyote in the spare room.

[@Arcaryon]

I am not even a communist but Peterson is embarrassingly uneducated on certain political issues time and time again and this example here is no exception. He argues like a green eared first semester, it sounds decent as long as you know absolutely nothing about what he is talking about.

[@shutdownexecute3936]

Where is the argument?

[@lucyhardman2267]

If you create a false version of reality and invent dragons to live in it, you'll end up chasing and slaying the wrong things, all while the real dragons grow bigger and bigger. When you finally snap out of it, the whole village will have been torched.

[@DarkFlamesDarkness]

You could probably replace dragons with the word monsters as people invent monsters & they actually exist in the real world.

[@JoelEmmettMcGarrity]

Hope you’re doing well Dr. Peterson. All the best!

[@DonTerhune1200cc]

Perfect breakdown of key differences between communism & naxism. 2 different entrances which lead u2 the same pit of hell.

[@VON-O5]

I fully agree with the Nazism part, but fully disagree with the communist part. Capitalism is what leads us to hell. Capitalism is not about freedom or the individual, it is about making more profit for 0.1% of the population by any means necessary. In capitalism, there is no freedom, the workers who actually MAKE the products are not allowed to dictate what happens to those products and how they are sold. People are FORCED to work jobs they hate in order to not die of starvation or thirst. Workers are NOT payed according to the value they provide, they are payed as little as possible and the majority of their deserved pay gets stolen to fill the pockets of the ruling class. This means that hard work does not matter in capitalism, the ruling class reaps the rewards of your hard work. The ruling class do not contribute ANYTHING GOOD to society. The ruling class contributes to the continued misery of the majority of humanity. Yet despite their lack of good contribution to society, they are the ones dictating society, they are the ones with all of the money. I thought capitalism rewarded hard work? Capitalism also demands infinite growth on a finite planet. It needs to be constantly fed more profit and as quickly as possible, regardless of it's affects on human well being. In order to do this, capitalism extracts finite resources from our planet and uses them up at a fast speed in order to make a profit. Capitalism is making our environment slowly uninhabitable. Capitalism has killed FAR more people than communism ever has and communism has saved FAR more people than capitalism ever "has".

[@ramblingguy3439]

The Waffle House has found its new host

[@gitfoad8032]

That's the type-A secret 'disappearing' 'police, right there: "There are only hunters & farmers".

[@jameskile5113]

Lying in the service of a future utopia sounds a lot like the bullshit of the Christian religion. You said it yourself Peterson, communism was a good substitute for Christianity because it lies for a utopian ideology. How is this not exactly the same as you promoting Christianity whether or not it’s actually true?

[@villepakkanen4833]

weirdo

[@blueberrygod8275]

God he is dense. Communism was significantly better in every way than any form of capitalism.

[@zenxel]

Ask Ukraine, Poland, Lithuania, East Germany and other former socialists. There is a reason those countries treat communists like Nazis

[@blueberrygod8275]

@@zenxel If they treated them like nazis they would be revered. Neo nazi presence in Ukraine and these former soviet states is very strong.

[@zenxel]

@@blueberrygod8275 Only Ukraine has strong neo-nazis presence, Poland and the others hate nazis. Specifically, I meant they treat communists like how the West treats nazis. Which is, a general hatred for them.

[@Chloethemarxenjoyer]

​@@zenxelShut up. Communists were targeted in the holocaust.

[@zenxel]

@@Chloethemarxenjoyer Are you that dense? Ukraine and Poland were targeted by Communists. What exactly are trying to say?

[@lunaazaleaamity3391]

I mean there is an entire political spectrum between the two but go off I guess

[@jtmmmm27]

People tend to gravitate to ideologies that don’t allow for independent thought. Fascism/Communism/Progressivism all have that in common, once they become open to interpretation even from the most ignorant they fall apart like a house of cards.

[@adamstanisaw2892]

thats why you need to force to ensure no one has enough independency. So communist state must be totalitarian. Otherwise it will not stick together.

[@cyberneticsiren]

In our society communism is a sin. For which we used to be punished legally. Not only that but to really get into leftist politics involves completely rejecting the current system, our politics involves imagination, our politics involves reading books, our politics is a commitment to the idea that a different society is possible even as everyone tells us otherwise. How are we the ones lacking in independent thought? Ur not special for supporting capitalism in a capitalist society.

[@jtmmmm27]

@@cyberneticsiren It’s nothing to do with the specific politics of these ideologies, the problem lies with the absolute “truth” that they are based upon that inevitably leads to corruption. The difference between Communism vs Capitalism in this regard is that if it’s not working in capitalism then it will be out competed by something more competent (not necessarily something perfect) where as if something isn’t working under Communism then whatever is ready to improve the system is attacked by those with the absolute power bestowed upon them by the population to protect their own positions of power. There is a direct comparison to be made where Capitalist systems act like the Scientific community where all ideas are subject to scrutiny from all people and if they can find a hole in a current theory then they are free to formulate their own and out compete the old inefficient one. Communism on the other hand plays out much like a clandestine theocracy where you can only improve the current systems with the existing paradigms of the current ideology and to act outside of those paradigms will see you punished as a blasphemer.

[@Cyborg_Lenin]

Well try to. Here i am, a dreaded socialist. Blow on me and we will see who is ignorant.

[@jtmmmm27]

@@Cyborg_Lenin Socialism isn't the same thing as Communism in an Idealogical sense. Socialism is a pool of resources paid by the population for services that might not be attainable to everyone, Communism is based on the idea that no individual can own anything and the State having authority over every aspect of society.

[@sbkenn1]

Communism isn't the problem, human nature is. Power almost always leads to corruption.

[@ducklord3604]

That's why socialism has no centralised power system to stop corruption.

[@MrVidman14]

So then communism is the problem simply because it doesn’t account for Human nature

[@m_alcoves]

Agreed

[@xxmagicmushroomboixx6370]

As a socialist myself I believe it could be done by the people communist/socialist governments creat dictatorship witch leads to a problem we as a society demonize marxist ideology because of that fact i also think people don’t do enough studying on communism they watch the news and hear how horrible it is its time for a change! Weather or not older generations like it capitalism is becoming a dated system wich leads to massive spikes of joblessness people with a failing economy for example COVID or from 2007 to 2009 were we saw another depression.

[@laurioho2041]

workers of the world unite

[@mykolarieland8048]

It is time for you to approach everything you do during the day consciously. You should constantly control your thoughts and feelings. Any negative thought in your consciousness must be nipped in the bud. Protect yourself from everything that contributes to the existence of negative thoughts and feelings in your consciousness.

[@nygeriunprence]

And how do you do that?

[@chickenmonger123]

@@nygeriunprence With industrial strength copium.

[@warrenarthur5629]

@@chickenmonger123 "copium", nice-one, I shall use that phrase elsewhere unless you object.

[@ravenstarver1360]

@@warrenarthur5629 copium has been in meme use for a while now

[@ravenstarver1360]

Yea avoiding all negative thoughts is unrealistic and often negative thoughts are important to change things.

[@kevinbetsy-w9424]

The rise in popularity of far left socialism/communism in the western world, even after we’ve seen the horrors it visited on humanity, is beyond comprehension

[@jamesanthony5681]

Be mindful that the former USSR which called itself a socialist state was anything but a socialist regime. Likewise, Nazi Germany.

[@Arcaryon]

Na, the issue is that the USA is still running mid 20th century capitalism and expects it to just work. There is a reason why Europe is more social and overall different from the USA that we had to deal with the fallout of having capitalism, monarchism, imperialism, fasc*sm ( which imo. kind of belongs close to imperialism though most people will not agree in an academic setting and I respect that this is the dominant opinion on the matter ) and communism much more intimately as opposed to mainly just discussing its impact from the side lines. The USA for example never had to conclude its imperialism chapter via outside pressure, it merely evolved because there were basically no natives left, it finished what the original settlers started and conquered an empire which it then settled and today is a fairly consolidated state. Likewise, it never had to deal with the fallout of having a really powerful monarch with armies that were too strong to be defeated and not an ocean away while being busy fighting a major war, it never had to deal with communism because thanks to the WWs destroying its main competition which was able to delay the effects of competitive international trade which is now, also thanks to a lack of regulations, creating very uncomfortable positions for so many younger US-citizens. I am leaving out a mountain worth of factors but basically the youth in Europe, the youth usually being the people with the most to gain and the least to loose, has a well known alternative as opposed to just being familiar with unregulated capitalism and of course a couple of communist theories and the comparisons to Europe. In short: the USA was able to avoid a discussion Europe was forced to have in the after math or the world wars. It had once given a couple of meaningful answers too around the same time but eventually abandoned these lessons. Also keep in mind that I am currently incredibly tired so apologies for the rough outline.

[@robopope7584]

I think I need to mention that George Orwell joined a Trotskyist militia in the Spanish Civil War that later became known for fighting the communists almost as much as the fascists. And then the guy who helped him publish his memoir of that experience was an MI6 agent, and the guy who got the first English translation of Mein Kampf published.

[@jamesjrdollenmeyer8301]

They were both Malthusian. I am beginning to think that the whole bloody mess was a set up to lower the population of the planet. Then I start to question all wars. Even Napolean.

[@30markom]

By describing communism, he described Christianity perfectly

[@jmeds94]

Except in Christianity the only promises of utopia are in the next life. Not in this world.

[@figofigo7908]

Communist generally Atheist

[@martinpat94]

The problem is that communism usually devolves into things like dictatorships cause humans are very fallible. Doesn’t mean we shouldn’t try for a utopian society, just that we need to be careful on the steps because they are greased by greed

[@sn3495]

When there is no checks and balances with peaceful changbility of government through Free Market Democracy, government bureaucrats have unlimited control of power through government control of means of production....

[@Cordajwsma7282]

My only problem with communism. Every time a country calls itself that it turns into a shit hole. It feels bad because communism only works in a perfect world with out greed.

[@Toimeme612]

So we should really be careful, because a utopia has never been done, so we don't know how it can be done right now. If the comunist utopia will exist, I think it won't in decades but in many centuries.

[@parizadgandhi6578]

You sound like a crazy person.

[@user-xk1ff4gp7k]

Stalin killed his many Jews as Hitler

[@thenewjoe7620]

can this not be sad about the journey through democracies?

[@pannik_lucas]

A main difference is that you can have a say in their diversity that even disagrees and criticizes such democracies, and your chances of being arrested, persecuted and executed are lower.

[@thenewjoe7620]

@@pannik_lucas is that so? Compare america to other countries. Tell me the last time the people and voted and things changed? Democracy is just a way for the corrupt to escape accountability

[@pannik_lucas]

@@thenewjoe7620 The problems of democracies do not remove the sins of communism, neither what I said. The fact that you are able to write this is proof. If you expressed anything like it in Soviet Russia, high chances are that you become an enemy of the state / party. Besides, whatever you mean with "things changed"? All goverments, no matter how incompetent they can be, are responsible for something. Good or bad. "Change" is one of the few things in history that actually does not change. Funnily enough, socialist examples tend to do it for the worst in many aspects.

[@thenewjoe7620]

@@pannik_lucas you have a western skew of communism. Communism tenets do not have anything to do with oppression or repression, that is bad actors in power. Do you think your democracy as it stands today, is free, or just any better that what say the CPC is? How many poor, homeless, addicts are in the west . Compare that to communism.. These same problems do not exist anymore. And don't go back to Stalin and Mao, because unfortunately if it wasn't for them and what they did in their countries, Russia and China couldn't be who they are today. The large famines, always pointing to how evil communism is, was just the industrialization of society, without proper thinking of consequences

[@thenewjoe7620]

@@pannik_lucas only the USA, doesn't use socialism. USA is not by any means or standards proof of excellence in governing. The American people's lives have not gotten better since the 60's Except for the small fringe unimportant lgtbq peeps

[@anlfrat8411]

This is great to remember next time I talk to my commie friends

[@pornsakpongthong1092]

just do us a favor and off them

[@Cyborg_Lenin]

Trust me, a commie. This is bs that Lenin had to deal with a 100 years ago. Engels had a whole book "socialism utopian and scietntific" where he talks about this question. You aren't bringing up anything new. Peterson didn't even make an argument against communism, he just said lying is bad.

[@sofiwuu3001]

It's pretty damn obvious mental illness blablabla shame you can make a living over it that's how capitalisme lose to communisme 😮

[@theBCdream]

He spoke what I was thinking

[@user-gz3rb7uw6z]

Common good has to be specified. For me : - Promoting everyone's Free Will on all aspects of their lives, as long as it doesn't trample the freedom and security of others. - Being inclusive and know that we are All One. Which doesn't mean we necessarily agree on everything, but that we can respect each other nonetheless. This would be a good start

[@kburns2470]

The only thing that worries me in your comment is the "being inclusive" bit, though I think you mean it in the good sense, in the former sense of what it used to mean, which is a good thing. The term has been so twisted and butchered in our times that it raises concerns now when we hear it. The term is now mostly used by bigoted people - actually bigoted, as in the sense of being intolerant towards and unwilling to consider others' viewpoints and thoughtful criticisms of their own views - which is really something we need to change. We need to take back these kinds of words and use them in their original, sensible meanings.

[@user-gz3rb7uw6z]

Exactly Ego twists every good messages. That's what even the Crusaders did back in the days. Killing muslims and jews "in the name of God" Now it's with trans agenda and victimising races and pointing fingers at other ones for their past troubles. All coordinated by evil forces most cannot even comprehend

[@RobertMJohnson]

No one needs to be inclusive, V 14; they simply need NOT BE exclusionary with laws. the second you start thinking of the collective, you instigate tribalism, groupthink and identity politics which leads EVERYONE down the path of destruction. our constitution exists to PROTECT THE INDIVIDUAL, not to PROMOTE INCLUSION. If i want to be alone, read books, practice witchcraft and eat insects and not be bothered, shouldn't i have that option?

[@laurioho2041]

So youre commie, welcome to the club buddy.

[@booperdee2]

Thats how i generally conceive of the difference between the 2. The fascist perspective is that the strongest are most deserving, and the communist perspective is that the weakest are the most deserving. The emphasis of what is important are an opposing binary, and by definition theyre within the same presupposition of things being deserved based on the general idea of "success", but who is deciding how much of what is deserved by who is always the problem, and we're certain that a centralized all-powerful organisation isnt the thing to do.

[@skorathereckless6449]

I would say fascist say collective is embodied in state and you live to serve it.

[@Cyborg_Lenin]

No. Under communism everyone is universally deserving based on their needs. Weakness has nothing to do with it.

[@ExpendableRedshirt]

Jordan please do some basic research before talking about subjects of which you clearly have no knowledge. Try reading about what communism is. Here's a clue it isn't Stalinism nor Maoism. Sometimes politicians are not what they claim to be.

[@Paradisusinfernalis6815]

Communism persecuted all people - based on class, origin, nationality, language , religion, wealth, occupation, political affiliation, status, family membership, friendship… at any single point anyone could find itself on the other side of the interrogation table and behind bars - There is a famous Soviet prison joke : guard escorts prisoner to his cell after he was sentenced to 25 years and asks - what did you got sentenced for ? Prisoner says- well for nothing ! -no, you are wrong - for nothing they give only 10 years !

[@juniornunez5658]

Now I understand

[@szeltovivarsydroxan9944]

I asked my father once "What is the difference between Nazis and Communists?" And he said "Shall I give you the answer by millions or tens of millions?"

[@Cyborg_Lenin]

Yeah you father was pretty dumb. Good thing communism was there to stop the nazis. They were planing to kill hundreds of millions.

[@heinrich6294]

What is the difference between Nazis and Democrats? Should I give you the answer in millions or hundreds of millions? Referring to Afghanistan war, Iraq war, Vietnam war, whole African slavery which took one century, American slavery which enslaved Africans more than 2 centuries. Their is no point in comparing only the total deaths caused by systems.

[@goldfishi5776]

lots of tribal politics going on today.

[@Alaska-Jack]

The Christians no longer want Muslims they no longer want people who bow down no longer want to forgiveness. We already know what’s going to happen. We don’t need any more warriors the more soldiers no more Christians need apply. We already have that filled. We are doomed and we will become the victorsspoiler alert😅 so if your Muslim good luck in the afterlife and maybe you should like be a little nicer to the gay people yeah kind of angry with you right now Muslims

[@privet671poka]

He says this like there is no lying in democratic countries. God, and how much!

[@alvarojneto]

Democracy and communism are not mutually exclusive.

[@Renaultforum]

This new vertical format of video you cannot stop is stupid

[@ruuman]

Blame youtube, they push this format to compete with tiktok.

[@sydneydias940]

PERFECT QUOTE! JUST AS IT IS.❤🇺🇸

[@conanclarke9308]

The current capitalist model at the moment, has made society more selfish in western w world, The system has widened the gap between rich and poor creates obesity unnecessary environmental damage . Young people are putting of having kids because of expensive housing and lack of job security. No system esp in purest form works.