The Founding Fathers to Manifest Destiny (Christian Nationalism Part 1)

[@adamrspears1981]

Freedom of religion And also freedom FROM religion.

[@mylesmarkson1686]

And also the freedom to stay the hell away from religion!

[@tulpas93]

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[@casper-z9rkls6gl]

FREEDOM from door-knockers . . . slick salespeople . . . smooth talkers . . . telemarketers . . . fake friends . . . hypocrites . . . Newspeakers ... Doublespeakers . . . gaslighters . . . strawpeople . . . swindlers, con artists, SCAMMERS . . .

[@owenoulton9312]

Without freedom FROM religion, there is no freedom OF religion.

[@bakedbeans5494]

@@tulpas93A bunch of losers.

[@DylanJuster555]

None of the founding fathers ever intended to found this country on any religion. They specifically stated the importance of separating religion and the state

[@user-sb7iy5nw9b]

Yes!!! 💯

[@mosesking2923]

Separation of church and state did not exist on the federal level but did exist at the state level. The founding fathers never wanted a single theocracy but 13 separate theocracies.

[@texasrefugee7888]

Lincoln said church and state were separated because Kings had always said they were God. And they did right up until the French revolution. The elite want that back and so they've dumped the gospel of Jesus for the prosperity gospel, which is the gospel of Jesus turned upside down.

[@AnnoyingNewsletters]

*_Even if_* the founding fathers wanted a theocracy, it's been nearly 250 years since the founding of this nation. America and the rest of the world have outgrown such primitive, superstitious tribalism, at least as a form of governance. If you still want to go to church on Sunday and let your kids be alone with predators during youth group, that's your right. 🤷‍♂️

[@DylanJuster555]

@@mosesking2923 pretty sure they wouldn’t want theology anywhere near the government. They intended for the country to be the Republic it is now, people can have their religion as long as it doesn’t infringe on anyones rights, and to that end having any state sanctioned religion would violate those rights. Plus if we’re being honest I’m sure they’ve seen what previous theocratic governments were like when religion and the state were one and decided they didn’t want theology anywhere in politics

[@divine-by-zero]

“A tool for power, dominance, and control” - so believed the emperor Constantine. He literally built a religion that all the splintered, fractured groups in the empire would follow with the express purpose of squelching dissent and assuring compliance. He himself was an initiate of Sol Invictus and never really converted - he went as far as creating a myth of a “vision” and a “conversion” but in truth it was just a really compelling story. Because religious people are easier to hoodwink and control.

[@jezebelvibes]

I feel like no matter how far I go back, there's always some dude in power using religion as a tool for power and control.

[@moonfire41]

Brainwashing never dies unfortunately.

[@JamesRichardWiley]

Sol Invictus is sun worship.

[@oakridgemall-8jl2h9f]

@@JamesRichardWiley The Proto-Indo-Europeans of the frigid Pontic Steppes in what are today southeastern Ukraine and southwestern Russia worshiped the Sun . . . desert tribes of Arabia --- where diurnal temperatures can exceed 50 C (122F) --- worshiped the Moon.

[@fnjesusfreak]

Something like "Religion has been seen by the masses as true, the wise as false, and the élite as useful" ?

[@cousinbuzzin9060]

In the late sixties, I would have been glad to have you as my U.S. History 101 professor. Jolly good show.

[@jezebelvibes]

Thanks friend :)

[@moonfire41]

Same for me only in my college years in the early 2000s.

[@Masterpirate1]

I would had loved to have Thales, Socrates, Aristotle, Pyrrho, Diogenes as school teachers the mid-80s. But the school board and PTA would have never gone for that.

[@melvinloyalist6758]

This year I’m thankful for you Kristi Burke and all your videos. You’ve helped me and countless others like me, for which I am very grateful. Don’t ever stop being your most authentic self because you make the world a brighter place!

[@jezebelvibes]

Thank you so much! That's so encouraging

[@eringo-bragh4243]

Amen

[@katwitanruna]

I was raised by teachers, one of whom is a historian. Christian nationalism makes me wince, partly because those people rarely follow the Christ.

[@marcozegikniet9301]

They follow Ayn Rand. Which is the opposite of the teachings of Jesus.

[@JesusLied_ReadTheBible]

They certainly lie a-lot like Jesus did!

[@kirstencorby8465]

I've long thought of them as "Old Testament Christians." Into the blood and judgment, not the peace and love.

[@casper-z9rkls6gl]

It's an open secret: they dismiss Jesus as a wimp; and instead worship the Trinity of Joshua, Saul, and Joab.

[@eringo-bragh4243]

@@marcozegikniet9301 She actually said that Christians were suckers because they sacrifice to (their) God and to others. I was quite a follower in my 20s & 30s, then I read Atlas Shrugged & The Virtue of Selfishness, totally antithetical to Christianity but actually a foundation for my Republican party

[@tofersiefken]

58, male, Exvangelical/Atheist since '22/'23 after 30 years drinking the Koolaid. I was "saved" during the Satanic Panic of the late '80s and immediately introduced to the type of revisionist history that painted the founding fathers as pious devotees of American Christianity. Separated myself from the cult beginning in 2015 when the "monster" came down the escalator and all the cult worshiped the golden calf but took a while to prepare for my eventual deconstruction. Thank you for this series. It's validating to my own experience to hear and know that I am not alone.

[@tgriffin3059]

Hate to break it to you, but the Founders WERE American Christians. This was overwhelmingly the case among the higher echelon Founders, the ones we've all heard of...and it was almost EXCLUSIVELY the case among the middling or lower level patriots of the time...The fact that you hate something so much....does NOTHING to alter the reality...

[@SeekingTheLoveThatGodMeans7648]

@@tgriffin3059 They were a mixed, often polluted bag, and actual history, not just the whitewash you worship, proves it. And even yet, were those of them who were actually saved possible to consult (it would be a sin to actually try) they'd be surprised and shocked at you. Benjamin Franklin, a free thinking man before God, allowed in humility that his soul needed correction. And because he did, his soul will have been saved and he will have seen the whole picture. How about your soul?

[@racerx4152]

now you have a new idol to worship.

[@Masterpirate1]

@@tgriffin3059 _Thomas_ Jefferson, Franklin, Adams, Madison, Paine were Deists, Unitarians, Quakers or (crypo) atheists. The devout Christians emerged nearly a century later, in the form of Jefferson _Davis,_ Alexander Stephens, Robert E. Lee, Stonewall Jackson, Nathan Bedford Forrest. *1-Peter 2:18* _“SLAVES,_ in reverent fear of God submit yourselves to your masters, not only to those who are good and considerate, but also to those who are harsh.” *Ephesians 6:5-7* _"SLAVES,_ obey your earthly masters with respect and fear, and with sincerity of heart, just as you would obey Christ. Obey them not only to win their favor when their eye is on you, but as *SLAVES* of Christ, doing the will of God from your heart.” *Titus 2:9-10* "Teach _SLAVES_ to be subject to their masters in everything, to try to please them, not to talk back to them, and not to steal from them, but to show that they can be fully trusted, so that in every way they will make the teaching about God our Savior attractive." *Psalm 123:2* "I lift up my eyes to you, to you who sit enthroned in heaven, as the eyes of *SLAVES* look to the hand of their *master,* as the eyes of a female slave look to the hand of her mistress, so our eyes look to the Lord our God, till he shows us his mercy." *Exodus 21:20-21* “Anyone who beats their male or female *SLAVE* with a rod must be punished if the slave dies as a direct result . . . but they are not to be punished if the slave recovers after a day or two, since the slave is their _property."_ *Leviticus 25:44-45* "Your male and female *SLAVES* are to come from the Nations around you. From them, you may buy slaves. You may also buy some of the temporary residents living among you and members of their clan born Into Your Country. *Romans 6:16* "When you offer yourselves to someone as obedient slaves, you are *SLAVES* of the one you obey - whether you are slaves to sin, which leads to death, or to OBEDIENCE, which leads to righteousness?"

[@SparklyCoconut-le3fu]

So glad you’re talking about this. I want people to understand that the kkk were Christian nationalists. People these days don’t know that some how

[@racerx4152]

equating all christians as The KKK or nationalists is nonsense.

[@robinette64]

I really like the way you are laying this out chronologically in an easy-to-understand format. Very helpful when trying to talk about this with others. I think a lot of folks caught up in this don’t really understand what it is and where it comes from. Keep up the good work!

[@AmandaDavis-g8p]

The Indians was here first and Christians also wanted to force Christianity on them and I think that the Native American beliefs is older than Christianity. Christians have always used their religion to control others. Thank you for your message Kristi it's Very educational ❤

[@dogwalker666]

The Christians did the same to the Celts and Britons.

[@charvaka9526]

The Founding Myth by Andrew Seidel is an excellent read.

[@stevewebber707]

One of my issues with Christian nationalism, is that it hinges on what Christianity is. And Christianity is regularly redefining itself, with heavy weight coming from the culture of those in that faith. There is a constant and complicated interplay between our culture, and our religions. With both of those shifting and evolving over time. Claiming that process is in one direction only, would be ludicrous. I have no problem admitting that we draw aspects of our culture from Christianity. That said, if they want to imply that the bible provides the epitome of moral structure, I will strongly disagree. Maybe Christian nationalists can harmonize their religion with modern ideologies. But to pretend that the bible is the primary source for our nations founding ideals, including the secular ones, is not taking history seriously. In our politics, if you can't defend a position without appealing to the authority of the bible, I see no reason I should take that position seriously.

[@captntorthenaer-do-wellcad3191]

You're awesome! Just say'n! Carry on!

[@Edowin-jz2sj]

Great series, thank you! I am an alleged descendant of John Adams and after hearing claims that our Founding Fathers intended the U.S. to be a Christian state in the early 2000s, I've done some research on Adams, Washington, and Jefferson in particular and there is a degree of contradiction depending on the source, but I get the impression that Washington was a devout attendee of Sunday church, though he did not express religious views or opinions publicly. Jefferson was a "deist" who believes God created existence, but never communicated or intervened with humankind or performed miracles and he openly criticized religion in general. Adams held similar views to Benjamin Franklin about the role of church in society (he also denounced Thomas Paine, like Franklin), but attended a Unitarian church which denied the divinity of Christ and did not believe in the holy trinity.

[@adamc1966]

Paine was a hard-core Deist. His books were all about his criticisms of christianity.

[@Reed5016]

In general, I don’t think we should be as concerned with tradition and the founding father’s intentions for our nation, so much as we should be focused on the freedom and rights of humanity as a whole. Instead of making America “great again”, we should be trying to make it better than it ever was before. And not just better for a small group of people, better for everyone as a whole.

[@deconstructingpatriarchy]

Aho to this....this is absolutely one of the rabbit holes my mind keeps wandering down. Why do we keep insisting that all these old texts are authoritative over a completely different world and culture now? But then I look at my own historical studies that are infusing my work...and get that these beliefs are SOOO embedded into our cultural DNA through all the stories that have been told and retold for thousands of years until people do not even see how they are driving us. So I have made it my mission to help people see these invisible beliefs our world is built on. Because then maybe we can see how ol' fashioned they are, kick them to the curb and create new stories!

[@stevepowsinger733]

So you want to make the whole WORLD better? A noble gesture and we certainly must try to be helpful, both for the people and the earth. Nevertheless, Americans and their allies must first ensure that their respective countries are mindful of their material sufficiency and be protective of national security. The world is a dangerous and fragile place, with wars going on constantly and we cannot look out for other countries so much that we neglect ourselves. I agree it needs to be a better place while mindful that we could slip backwards by focusing too much blame on ancestors as they were moving forward slowly with the advance of science and the Industrial Revolution.

[@26beegee]

“In God we trust” added to money in the 1950s, “under God” added to the pledge in the 1950s. Pat Robertson (lawyer who couldn’t pass the bar exam) was instrumental in the Right to Life movement and the new evangelical movement. 🤬

[@timmacwilliam9519]

They had other slogans on their currency before that. In 1935 they had E. Pluribis Unum on some of there currency, coat of arms, etc, which is Latin for "Out of many, One" It is noteworthy to mention that in early Judaism they were not monotheistic the way we think of monotheism. They were Henotheistic which means they acknowledged many gods but followed and worshiped one. The 1st commandment echoes this thought, "thou shalt have no other Gods before me, for I, the lord your God, am a jealous God" This implies God, and those he was addressing, the Israelites, were well aware of the fact that there were other Gods. Yahweh was specifically the patron deity of the Israelites, (not the world, much more the universe) Chemosh was the God of the Moabites, as another example, and defeated Yahweh in a battle... archaeology confirms this on the discovery of the Mesha Stele (Moabite stone) Yahweh is not omnipotent! He is also a prophetic failure. in 2 Kings 3, Yahweh's prophecy of victory is a failure, and a Moabite god's wrath drives Israel into retreat. In the Moabite Inscription, Chemosh's wrath ends in Yahweh's defeat and the fleeing of Israel. Yahweh is not some sort of omnipotent or omniscient being in much of the Bible. This is completely contradictory to Christian theology and the nature of God.

[@hiamanda]

This video dropping on Thanksgiving is THE POWER MOVE

[@jezebelvibes]

I worked SO hard to get it done on time 🥴😆

[@robertchambers5630]

Thank you so much for your hard work and research. I've only had a small bit of knowledge about christian nationalism and looking forward to more of your videos diving into this. Cheers!

[@tedgemberling2359]

Good research. To find White's letter, you would probably have to go to an archive. If you go to a research library (like at a university), a librarian would probably be able to tell you which archive it's in. I worked in historical collections for quite a few years. At our library we had an original letter of George Washington, as well as many letters of Florence Nightingale.

[@stephaniesmith9479]

Check out Thomas Payne, The Age of Reason! It’s a short, but really compelling read, and it is the book that set me on my journey to atheism!

[@stevepowsinger733]

He went way beyond his Common Sense book and, anyway, after the Revolution the populace entered a phase conservatism.

[@ecocentrichomestead6783]

Religion IS a tool for dominance and control! Every time a charismatic person has an issue with something, s/he calls it a commandment of God.

[@secularsunshine9036]

*Excellent presentation.* I'm a life long atheist, as my family is secular and from Sweden. Wishing you all Holiday cheer. Thousands of years ago long before Jesus, way back in the Neolithic, It is the Sun which is rebirthed in the passageway of an ancient tomb, the Grand Passage Tomb in the Boyne Valley, Newgrange Ireland. In 1350 BCE Amenhotep the fourth created a monotheistic god from the solar disk, then known as the Aten. Some of Amenhotep's work can be found in the bible as Psalm 104 also known as "The Great Hymn to the Aten". Christians pay homage to this man after a prayer, "Amen". Today our hearts bring back the Light in a celebration from Scandinavia which lasts over several days during the winter solstice known as "Yule". Predating Christianity and originating thousands of years ago. Known as a Norse festival called "jol" named after the Norse god Odin. The Norse being the ancestors of Vikings with the ancestor of the Vikings dating back over 12000 years ago in Scandinavia. The rebirth of the Sun being the oldest known winter solstice celebration, we celebrate the rebirth and the warmth of the Sunshine (Love, Peace, Happiness, Goodwill to man)… Have a Wonderful Winter's Solstice. "Songs about the Sunshine" "kzbin.info/www/bejne/Y5POnWWZl5iVnKc" thank you.

[@stevem83]

Wow. This conversation is extremely important. I love this conversation along with the recent talk that Mindshift has had about what secular society needs to do in order to fill the void that religion has left.

[@dianacortinas521]

Wuauuuu me encanta el canal. Estoy en el proceso de desconstruccion. Tuve una mala experiencia . Estaba vulnerable y me recomendaron leer la biblia y escuchar a pastores. Viví tres años horribles al miedo , queriendo pasar pruebas , creyendo que tenía demonios etc. Es lo mas horrible que he pasado . Igual empecé con las muchas contradicciones que hay en biblia. Tenía que morir en la carne. Que estupidez. Estuve tan engañada.

[@dogwalker666]

Welcome to reality.

[@Jalava_DaFlow]

Wow thank you so much for the time and research you put in to presenting this to us in a intellectual and thoughtful manner you rock keep up the good work

[@LittlePhineas]

I'm glad to see you expanding from your core content to deal with the threat of Christian Nationalism. Conflating religion and politics is always dangerous. I appreciate the amount of work you put into your videos, and I hope with this new branching out you'll be able to reach some who mistakenly think that America is a "Christian Nation".

[@tulpas93]

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[@Dingolia]

Thank you so much for the upload!

[@patriciakumar115]

Thank you, Kristi. I look forward to your next video. You're doing a fantastic job with explaining this very important subject.

[@jezebelvibes]

Thanks so much for being here!

[@OniNaito]

I hope that this series gets a lot of visibility.

[@tulpas93]

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[@elgozk]

I appreciate you and your work, Ms. Burke. Thank you for the time, research, passion and humanity that go into all of your videos.

[@TheEscapeDiary9th]

These are the conversations many are unwilling to have anymore. They ain’t wanna hear it and they tryin to remove these truths from schools.

[@RobertStambaugh-l5r]

Jesus is the truth .

[@TheEscapeDiary9th]

No.

[@joshuadouma999]

​@@TheEscapeDiary9thVery odd to state Jesus is the truth when there are other truthful statements that can also be made isn't it? Although I'm not persuaded by the Christian interpretation of Jesus being the truth.

[@TheEscapeDiary9th]

@@joshuadouma999 Is my comment being interpreted as "Jesus is the truth?" If so, that wasn't my intent.

[@joshuadouma999]

@@TheEscapeDiary9th No not at all. I was just referencing the first person who replied.

[@randallpickering9944]

With Kristi it's always a barbeque, as sacred cows get roasted. Keep up the good work.

[@mylesmarkson1686]

I'm hungry!

[@eringo-bragh4243]

Yum, pass the sauce

[@tartgreenapple1]

Thank you Kristi. I know the decision to address this wasn't easy but I appreciate it. I'm going to like, comment and do whatever I can do to get this out there. It's important. Again, respect and gratitude.

[@jezebelvibes]

Thanks so much for the encouragement and support!

[@pacificbob24]

This series is so valuable and educational Kristy.

[@tulpas93]

Please become a member of the FFRF! Donate to their Action Fund! 🎉

[@martinwhite8333]

Thank you so much for the hard work, analysis, high quality and tone of your presentations.

[@SharlaO]

Happy Thanksgiving 🍁 I’m hugely grateful for you and your videos! Thank you ❤ I hope your holidays are full of joy

[@Skyyyssss]

Hey, love the content. One thing I would have liked the viewers to know is how the Hudenasuanee (Iroquois) influenced the founders. For example Federalism, having representation in government, the separation of powers. This Age of Enlightenment that people speak of is directly influenced by indigenous cultures. Europe’s population lived under serfdom, which ended in the 1600’s and 1700’s. Coinciding with the early contact between indigenous people and European people

[@jezebelvibes]

Thank you for sharing this! I have only a surface level knowledge of the enlightenment, so this gives me something new to learn!

[@Casperrenee228]

Thank you Kristi for what you do & why you're doing it. You are so right that we all need to come together. Love the video! ❤

[@thehaunted1]

Love you, friend. I shared your same experiences and it took my nearly my entire life to get over the trauma...still struggling to a degree

[@TradeRoboticscom]

Kristi, keep on doing what you're doing ! Obviously very well researched presentation ! You're doing extremely valuable work for today, and most certainly, for future generations Thank you !

[@jezebelvibes]

I appreciate your support! 😁

[@dragonhealer7588]

Kristi, this is wonderful! You did a lot of work for this😊❤

[@jezebelvibes]

Thank you! I've been glued to my computer for weeks, lol

[@davistrevor]

Awesome series so far Kristi! Keep up the great work!

[@ericchang5360]

I think this is a great series you’re doing. Please take a look at the Treaty of Tripoli, article 11. Signed by John Adam’s, it states "As the government of the United States of America is not in any sense founded on the Christian Religion"

[@Andre-qo5ek]

we need people to get back to the spirit of the constitution: "WE THE PEOPLE of the United States, in Order to form A MORE PERFECT UNION, establish JUSTICE, insure domestic TRANQUILITY, provide for the COMMON defence, promote the general WELFARE, and secure the Blessings of LIBERTY to ourselves and our POSTERITY, ..."

[@eringo-bragh4243]

Yet I don't see how this maps onto Project2025 which seems like a prescription for minority rule.

[@tulpas93]

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[@TheWorkingClassroom]

It is very funny to see how the people who call everything they don't like "unconstitutional" also don't understand that what they want to do with Christian nationalism is explicitly unconstitutional.

[@MarkLander-cq9rw]

Just listened to channel for the first time. Subscribed right away. I like what you are doing. Keep up the good work.

[@Konsciencia1111]

Happy Thanksgiving Kristi!!

[@rjcavalli9202]

Thank you Kristi. Your perspective is refreshing. Your research into what is presented is outstanding. I too will often seek out a comment or quote from the original source. Thank you for your comments on native American Indians. It's amazes me how Europeans have justified stealing of lands and people. America was created by taking the land of the people who had been here for thousands of years. We then stole labor by enslaving blacks, all in the name of God. It always great to listen to your content. Having open discussions is the way to understanding each others.

[@jezebelvibes]

I appreciate you being here!

[@irinaatanasova2335]

Harassing everyone who is not the same as you and forcing yourself in other people's lives that are none of your business and trying so hard to oppress them - these are not "values"! This is ABUSE! Plain and simple.

[@Dingolia]

Exactly, this. Christian Nationalism is abuse.

[@tulpas93]

Well done! Perhaps I'm biased, being from Danbury, CT 😊 Build up that wall between religion and government! Please support the Freedom From Religion Action Fund and, if not them, Americans United or Christians Against Christian Nationalism!!!

[@shariwhitico6235]

This series is fantastic. Thank you so much for this l!

[@pacificbob24]

Thanks!

[@jezebelvibes]

Appreciate your support!

[@harveyangel4534]

Good job!

[@mrhistorybuff]

Great video. So happy to see this addressed. I am a US History teacher, and I proudly teach the truth that there is zero question that this was quite intentionally the first secular nation established since before the Crusades. Part of this was due to what the Puritans did in Massachusetts. They fled England over religious persecution and came here only to create an even more struct theocracy. Rhode Island, Connectucut, and New Hampshire were all founded by people who fled, or were banished from Massachusetts for rejecting Puritanical rule. Our founders knew this. They also knew the Salem wutch trials were caused by religious hysteria and the gulibility it cultivates. Religion embraces whatever power helps it retain its own power, thus our secular nation and potent First Amendment. I don't agree that many in power share Franklin's view. While those in power have no qualms with personal immorality, I think many of them wholeheartedly believe their own myths. That is why they are trying to end abortion and reverse marriage equality.

[@casper-z9rkls6gl]

The Founders were also well aware that The Protectorate "republic" of England, Scotland and Ireland failed because people had been stifled by Oliver Cromwell's theocratic, puritanical rule. Long-cherished traditions like theater, folk dance, Christmas and other holidays and festivals were banned because they were "pagan", and drinking and fashionable clothes curtailed. So fed up were the English that they begged Charles II to return and govern them as king not long after Cromwell's death. And then there's the Thirty Years War, in which a third of the population of the Holy Roman Empire (Germany) perished over religion and politics.

[@tgriffin3059]

Oh, I have no doubt as to your 'pride' in what you teach....but there are serious questions as to whether it's the truth. The more you read, the more you see that this was never envisioned as anything else BUT a Christian nation. I bought into your nonsense when I was younger. I felt you guys had to be right....I mean, who would be so foolish as to tell lies that could be so easily dispelled? Then, lo and behold, I looked for myself...and discovered that you people are simply offering up a version of history that you prefer. This place was OVERWHELMINGLY Christian. While not a true theocracy, it was Christian, to its' very core and rind. And until recently, nobody had any problem with it. At the time of World War ll, FDR-not just a Democrat, but the GREATEST of the Democrats-issued New Testaments to our embarking troops. Amazing that a man in his position wouldn't have been aware that we're supposed to be completely secular....You people are just lucky that Americans don't read...you'd never have gotten away with this lie for this long if people simply looked for themselves...but some enterprising Republican politician might well benefit from bringing some of this to the attention of the public.

[@theCommentDevil]

​@@tgriffin3059you're reading some crazy stuff if you think all that

[@tgriffin3059]

@@theCommentDevil What? You mean the First Amendment?

[@theCommentDevil]

@@tgriffin3059 I mean thinking that America was envisioned as a Christian nation. Giving bibles to troops is not evidence that we aren't a secular nation. Religion is a huge part of the culture, but not law and policy.

[@montymartell2081]

I remember in the 1990s watching the studies of babies turns out 1 year olds and 2 year olds have more morals then adult preachers and religious people now let that sink in

[@PolymorphicPenguin]

I missed these videos when they first went up because I was visiting my family for Thanksgiving, but I just want to address Benjamin Franklin's contention that we need Christianity to promote virtue. As a Christian, I do think that if you obeyed every teaching of Jesus, you would be a virtuous person. However, I also see wonderful people like Kristi who are atheists and some not-so-wonderful people who are Christians, so I have to admit that simply being part of Christianity isn't a guarantee of virtue. To get any virtue out of Christianity, we have to let God change us into the person that he wants us to be. God always gives us the option to stay the way we are and remain immature in our faith. There are definitely parts of my life that I need to submit to God's transformation, such as the anger I feel when people don't treat me the way I want to be treated.

[@jezebelvibes]

What a great way to approach your faith. You've found a really genuine way to stay true to your beliefs while maintaining empathy, understanding and openness. That's so important and appreciated.

[@lunatrick7098]

Not everything he says does though. Read the bible... he regularly condemns people to hell, kills trees and pigs, advocates theft, only selectively heals, advocates for antifamilial attitudes, declares to bring the sword, enacts public violence and vandalism, defends the torah with its institutions of slavery and genocide, and tells the poor not to worry about their concerns but be like him and live off other people. One of the greatest anathemas is the idea of gentle jesus meek and mild!

[@lindareese4579]

Your a very good teacher Kristy..❤

[@Akindmind-oe7ol]

Nicely done Kristi! Keep on telling your story!

[@kirstencorby8465]

Good work, Kristi. People have to listen because you speak from experience. Keep on. Happy Thanksgiving!

[@mleary001]

Wow. Your new series is off to an incredible start. You are making an exceptionally important contribution to people’s knowledge and to the public conversation on this topic. Thanks so much!

[@brianmurphy767]

The Founding Myth by Andrew Seidel is a fantastic book on this topic as well.

[@richardbetances9096]

Kristi, thank you for your honesty and historical reference. I never realized the Christian Nationalism was on the move but thank you for bringing this to my attention.

[@sherriecoke8015]

Thanks for all your hard work.

[@Jojojump3268]

Thank you so much for giving voice to this wonderful history.

[@terrilj]

Thanks!

[@rsnsol2490]

loving recapping the history here. thankyou

[@maestrareynolds9085]

I stayed away from your site for a while due to the negativity I felt it had toward people who believe in Christ. I do very much appreciate what you are focusing on right now as I am terrified of this white Christian nationalism. Thank you for taking this on.

[@Andre-qo5ek]

personal belief in any gods is generally fine ... until people start preaching it as truth without evidence and cramming it into society and government , a line has been crossed. especially here in America where we have a first amendment that prohibits religious governing bodies. thought speech and assembly are protected... action on the other hand... actions have consequences. it is a shame you feel negativity. keep in mind it is not often the Person that people are negative towards. it is the long history of harm the religion has, the overwhelming current harm some Christians are doing today. there is a fundamental difference in the acceptable level of epistemology that certain people have that the religious do not; we are talking a 400 year gap in epistemology. it can be very frustrating to talk to people seemingly from a different time period. no negativity here. just conversation.

[@tulpas93]

As a non religious person who is not a Theist or Deist, I welcome you here and wish you all the best in health and love! ❤

[@arthuryi3130]

Thank you for the video series. The truth you speak of in this part about the Founding Fathers hurts for Christians. Their version of how the American Government was founded contrasts with what really happened. When you think how much of the Declaration of Independence and Constitution we were taught in school as compared to the whole documents, it is only a fraction. And then you add facts like the "Third verse" to the Star Spangled Banner by Francis Scott Key, you realize how slavery and racism prevailed at that time. The other parts to this series about Christian Nationalism will be interesting.

[@oakridgemall-8jl2h9f]

What they never teach in high school history class due to political correctness: Thomas Jefferson, Benjamin Franklin, Thomas Paine, James Madison, John Adams, John Quincy Adams, Alexander Hamilton were Deists, Unitarians, Quakers (or outright crypto-atheists).

[@Warrior-re5fn]

You absolutely nailed it. Keep doing what you're doing and hopefully opening those closed eyes to what's real. Thank you Kristie 🤟🏼😀

[@kenpeters4744]

So informative. I will be re-watching and taking notes. This helps me communicate the dangers of this christian national BS. I believe there are many podcasters and influencers being supported by christian nationalists and paid to put out their propaganda in a manner that supports your theory about cowboys. I am amazed at the nullification of critical thinking due to these media outlets pushing that tough guy cowboy attitude. This is only my personal opinion.

[@jezebelvibes]

I first read about this romanticization of cowboy culture in the book "Jesus and John Wayne" by Kristin Kobes Du Mez. It was such an eye opening read on how this happened! Higly recommend it

[@sundayoliver3147]

@@jezebelvibes Thanks for the recommendation! Looking it up.

[@whitey11801527]

I'm enjoying very much hearing your perspective. I'm atheist myself, but I came from a religious background that was far less anti- free thought and intellectualism . I'm grateful for you educating me on the exodus from a much more restrictive background.

[@johnelwoodclarke5366]

Right on.

[@GymLeaderEddie-v7]

Boosting ❤❤❤

[@HaXaW5150]

Look up Ben Franklin and The Hellfire Club. And,, what do all religions and cults have in common? CONTROL of the people.

[@RobertGraziose]

Ben Franklin, George Washington, and 40% of the constitution signers were Freemasons. They are from what I've heard far from Christian.

[@barneykunkel8452]

Kristi, as I have commented before, your mode and manner of instruction is a great vehicle to get the truth and supporting information to our hearts and more importantly, our minds. I am always anxious to view each of your segments and it’s weird that it always seems like you are always talking to me. I am sure others pick up on that as well. This series on religious nationalism is so full of irrefutable historical facts and I am watching each segment over again to make sure your words are fully ingrained. You are absolutely the best and if this is what you having ADHD is like, I want some of that. Thank you.

[@justinjones8780]

Happy thanksgiving

[@j.whisper2379]

Ben Franklin was describing many of the people living in Red States today!

[@jesstaylor3856]

I'm glad somebody's starting to say heritage foundation Koch brothers in the Federalist society vice done the program on Christian nationalist 2021 very interesting

[@JGarner511]

Thank you so much for this series. I’ll be watching for new episodes with eager interest.

[@auntietara]

Good job! You’re kickin’ it!

[@10Shun]

This podcast (episode) should be required listening/watching to elementary students in public schools of America. It's an integral part of my own civics review as I waiver in my belief that this nation is what it's all cracked up to be...

[@DarqueSyde66]

The shift that was felt during desegregation is the same shift I felt when Obama was running for President. I did a presentation on that several years ago. Truly looking forward to the next video.

[@ronwhiteleo3352]

Say it loud so the people n the back of the church can hear you

[@johncomeens]

You did a fantastic job covering the political aspects of Christian Nationalism. I want to help fill a critical gap from the religious aspect. I don’t know if you intend to cover this but the First and Second Great Awakening movements are essential to understanding Christianity in America. I hope you can find some time to cover these topics.

[@justinjordan8884]

Great video, great insight, love this new series!

[@deconstructingpatriarchy]

Yes, there is so much to uncover. The biggest piece I keep coming back to in my research and understanding is that Christianity was used by Constantine back in 330 A.D. in order to solidify his hold over people. He saw it the one male God religion, to be a unifying force for the Roman empire. How can we ever see Christianity as anything but this type of power for the elite on top and that is what I will be diving into on my channel and Substack and already have. But as I keep saying, absolutely adore your brain, Christi Anne thank you so much for all you’re doing and hope we can join forces.

[@jebaker2]

Once again, really well done

[@insanetubegain]

Great content.

[@Multichick]

As an older American, i can assure you, we were taught about freedom of religion! Being that most of my ancestors migrated to USA for RELIGIOUS reasons- they were living in a place where their religion was not tolerated… IMO, equality of all people of the USA was the ultimate “Ideal” - the founders knew they could not see the future, so they decided to frame the Ideal of equality & freedom… 💜💙🤍❤️💃⚖️ - prior to the Dobbs decision, the Constitution EXPANDED rights through the years… with Dobbs, for the first time, rights were REDUCED. 🙏 thank you for your work

[@tommartin2360]

Dang Kristi! This is well researched and rich! I would watch your videos from time to time and they were quite good but this is at another level. Subscribed! Also the length is good. I rarely watch video longer than an hour

[@PxsDD]

This installation is such a great overview of why i just can't get with christianity and view it as inherently evil. Cant wait for the next video!

[@isaishaq]

Dear Kristii - Peace be to You - Regards, from UAE - Dubai

[@barbarasmith2693]

This was excellent! Keep going, Kristi. This is awesome.

[@dustcircle]

You're a great teacher

[@stoneybologna1982]

"....and liberty for just us, not all"

[@Gfc1980]

Thank you for the excellent video. My mom, who is a hardcore evangelical that wants God back in our government ……..meanwhile she is always criticizing/bad mouthing other Christian denominations. Last month, I asked her which of the hundreds of variants of Christianity she would like to see in charge of our government, and how it would square with her Pentecostal beliefs if, for example, it was Catholic or Jehovah's Witness. I think that question really made her think. A theocracy is a terrible form of government.

[@Ketumak]

Interesting! I'm British and to my way of thinking, the USA sort of had two founding points. The 18th century Founding Fathers were, as noted in the video, Enlightment Rationalists and thoroughly secular. They wrote the US constitution and Declaration of Independence. The USA, though, brought together 13 pre-existing colonies. The oldest colony was Massachussetts founded a century earlier by English settlers: the Pilgrim Fathers. They were stongly Protestant. So two foundings, two groups of fathers, one religious and one not. The founding that matters though, is the 18th century one. It actually set up the new nation. I suspect Christian nationalists are (deliberately?) confusing the two foundings.

[@MybridWonderful]

Well met. Just wanted to compliment you on your production value getting better.

[@mouthymormonmetalhea]

Very interesting video. Growing up mormon I was definitely taught that the constitution was inspired by God, and many christian nationalist ideas are baked into the religion. Also the Book of Mormon was produced during this time of colonialism and the Indian removal act. As someone who researches Mormon history and the origins of the movement I'm very familiar with all these concepts portrayed. These ideas are still very prevalent today with top leaders still encouraging people to vote republican, and for the entire gospel being about evangelizing, taking over the world pretty much with lds ideology. I heard someone say that christian evangelism is just the intellectual arm of colonialism and many of these manifest destiny ideas still persist in "traditional" families. I do love the fact that you aren't asking for money. The ex mormon channels I typically watch are constantly pining for donations. If I'm not giving money to a church why would I give it to people who discredit them? Your videos are very thought provoking. I think you are doing a wonderful job. Keep it up!

[@arnoldbongcayao6061]

I like this video.