The Future of Professional Disc Golf

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[@MasterDarkPoi]

Honestly I don't think there is a channel out there with this type of deep diving. I love six sided discs, and this is the type of information I love to get. Thanks for the research!

[@quaxie]

deff nothing currently posting, one of the better channels about disc golf. Some older channels had too much science.

[@hoff0839]

Heyy, DGV homie!

[@Ishiisan]

I think you're right. I don't know if you mentioned this but CNC is a great way to prototype for a mold.

[@kevinator213]

Also other companies that use injection mold could also use cnc machine and fine tune a special mold after the injection process

[@swcheshier61]

I am a toolmaker/machinist. I work with CNC lathes and mills. I have also worked with injection molding machines. One of the things about the undercut on the inside rim of the disc, that is not possible with injection molding. Anything that is injection molded has to have draft or slight taper to release from the mold. The undercut on that rim would basically trap it in the mold. Just a little FYI. I love disc golf too and I enjoyed your video.

[@discgolfswag]

I think a collaboration with techdisc would be huge. Using the data to craft the disc you need for your arm speed, spin, etc. Not to mention the physical aspects of it being able to be designed for better handfeel. Awesome video.

[@RecruitBillyEngel]

Already have a CNC with TechDisc on it

[@emilgranberg5189]

It might be that CNC discs will become more prevalent over time but I think that it's more likely that using CNC during prototyping prior to molding in mass production is even more likely.

[@theLizardof0z]

Combine this technology with the robot disc thrower from Simon's video, and TechDisc, and you can have an entire bag designed 100% to you.

[@SixSidedDiscs]

The future is here!

[@theLizardof0z]

@@SixSidedDiscs But who will fork up the $$ to make it happen and also make it reasonably priced...?! I don't know many people who will pay $40 for a disc. That 'used to be' the beauty of the game - it was cheap. Now people are desperately trying to profit off the Covid spike and they're driving interest down.

[@joeblow2426]

As mentioned in another comment, the price should come down as successful discs are mass produced by CNC. If companies like Innova, Discraft, and Latitude 64 get involved this may further lower pricing. As someone else mentioned the CNC cutting is essentially adding another step to the disc making process so the cost will always be higher, unless appropriate plastic could be sold to them in suitable solid blocks to machine at a similar price as the pellets. This would eliminate the molding process. I have no idea if suitable plastic is sold in the required larger size. I imagine ProtoFlyte would have already looked into this.

[@mahazroko6753]

This is all fine and dandy because it's relatively new (the TechDisc data and the consistent throwing robot) but it makes me slightly worried that the sport might eventually devolve into a pure numbers game, for example that the holes of the future will be shaped so tightly that you have to hit X disc at precisely (plus minus S percent) Y rpm, with Z speed, W nose angle, Q launch angle and T hyzer angle to be able to make it through the gap.

[@trev3971]

@@theLizardof0z For regular everyday discs, no. But if you're down to your last disc from your favorite run in 2012 and NOS discs are selling on eBay for $100, using CNC to make another batch at $40 a pop is a steal.

[@Asi32]

This is so brilliant. I have been wondering why no one has done this and was contemplating finding someone to do this with. I have so many discs which were bought for a specific purpose and the flight numbers indicate that the disc should "probably" fly close to those numbers, but to have say a super overstable disc be very very understable.....well that was wasted money. So paying a bit extra to get a disc you will 100% certain fly in a specific manor is great. Save money (no more "wrong" discs) , save time, (know what i get), and most importantly way less frustration. personal example is i thought i had a horrible forehand. Kept turning over 4 brands, extremely overstable drivers.....(they were extremely understable, despite all the features of being Overstable). Shared them with some other players at clinics and everyone just laughs their lungs out. So, this CNC disc is definetly the future. Hope they will set up shop and ship/sell to Norway.

[@SupersonicDiscsOfficial]

They might have overlooked something; if there are internal stresses in the blanks they are using, these stresses will be released when processed in a CNC machine, resulting in variations in the finished products

[@Migrean]

It's definitely a factor. Still, I would expect the effect to be less than a normal injection molded disc, as the larger blanks would cool slower, which should result in less thermal stress. I'd also go out on a limb and say that throwing the disc into a tree a couple times probably warps it more than that anyway.

[@cupbowlspoonforkknif]

They should have already encountered this problem and come up with a solution. Metal can be annealed to relieve internal stresses so I imagine plastic can be too.

[@tktspeed1433]

considering they have abackground in machining, they are aware of that, steel also has those stresses and they will be much more of a problem when machining precision steel parts with 0.01mm tolerances compared to discs with probably something like 0.1mm tolerances.

[@ryanclements8099]

as a person who works within the CNC industry, it's only a matter of time before the costs come down for them; we see things like crankshafts and tiny plastic connectors being mass produced from CNC machines all the time - once they figure out what "stock" discs are for them, how many they can reasonably mass produce (or outsource to a lower cost geography), and stand the durability test of time, I would think the only discs that stay at ~$40/disc are their special orders. It will take some time for those savings gained during the prototyping process to be passed to the customer. They may not be the ones to figure it all out, but I have no doubt someone will.

[@jannejaakkola5836]

I work as a customer for both CNC and molding companies and feel like it's all about volume. The CNC just doesn't scale so if you can produce 100k products, the molding will be way cheaper. It's only if you truly require the precision or don't have the volumes that CNC becomes attractive. While 40$ is high for CNC made disc, I'd counter with "so is 20$ for a molded one". I think it's going to be much easier to drop 50% of the price for molded discs than CNC. Thoughts?

[@Peyto23]

Bro I came down here to say the same thing. And before I even watched the whole video $40 was my guess.

[@austindizzle33]

​@@jannejaakkola5836 and of that $20 I would argue that's mostly margin. The cost of each disc when you factor in paying off the mold and overhead etc is probably only a couple of bucks when you factor in material etc. They could be selling a disc for like $10 and likely still be making money. The margins on these discs at this point have to be razor thin and the cycle times will never reach the point with current equipment that matches the injection molded counterpart.

[@krispendleton4662]

This will take us into getting fitted for a bag of discs the way you do for a set of clubs. Super rad!

[@MJV90]

See if you can get a prototype where they go nuts with that inside angle on the grip. A envision it as almost a hollow wing, it'll redefine weight distribution in drivers with premium plastic

[@Rathe6]

I pre-ordered the CNC- (slightly less stable version of the CNC) and have had it for a few months now. The hand feel is incredible. The lack of injection-mold-related imperfections was immediately apparent. For my very amateur self, the consistency is not worth the price. However, if I were frequenting the MPO category in tournaments, I imagine this would be a game changer.

[@longway2pro]

13:35 this sounds like a great idea, but as the PDGA guidelines stand, it's impossible. For each minor change you make to a disc's dimensions, the manufacturer is going to have to get it approved for use in the PDGA. The idea sounds good in theory, but in practice, it's never going to be able to happen like that, and if it's a selling point the company is going for, it's going to fail, unless the PDGA significantly loosens their guidelines for approved discs.

[@adielcerriteno1990]

They can just have a line of approved discs they sell. Made in the variations they want. And some prototypes u can’t use in tournaments but u can still buy. Doesn’t sound impossible to me but not easy of course

[@Broken_Pixels]

That's the first thing I thought when he mentioned taking it to a tournament.

[@trev3971]

But the guidelines aren't actually enforced, because discs vary wildly from run to run and all fall under the same approval for their given mold. Similarly, discs like the Roc and Buzzz have had multiple mold changes under the same approval. I don't see how the PDGA would argue against tweaks when they don't care that two Innova TLs can have completely different profiles and still be legal.

[@Jason-Moon]

And 14:06 ... totally custom designed discs couldn't possibly be pdga legal, but I'd love to build a perfect bag like that to see how uber-dialed I could get.

[@Broken_Pixels]

@@trev3971 they're not enforced until someone complains, odds are most wouldn't, but I wouldn't take the chance at a b/c tier to get stroked or possibly dq'd because someone wanted to win that badly. There's a pretty big difference between comparing pdga approved innova molds and cnc molds that aren't, however I'm pretty sure their current stuff is legit, moreso for tweaking discs to all possibilities, perhaps they'll find a way around it if they take off

[@mahazroko6753]

The reason why they can do the inverted rims and the injection molders can't is that the latter can't get the disc to pop out of the mold without significantly bending the disc outwards.

[@cupbowlspoonforkknif]

I thought so. This opens up lots of different design possibilities for discs! Infinite possibilities. Maybe we'll see a new iconic disc in the next few years.

[@myopiczeal]

There are more complex molds that will allow the inverted rim, but they're even more expensive. The inner mold is comprised of several sections that can retract to allow the disc to be ejected without distortion.

[@GABRIELGIESEL]

Your video is one of the best most organized and professional informative videos for disc golf I recently remember. For that ? You gained a subscriber. Well done and I agree 100% I’ve been saying it since I started disc golf CNC production of discs is the obvious answer to the best quality most consistent discs. But it’s going to be expensive

[@markpennebecker5008]

How would customized disc dimensions work with PDGA approval? Would each new disc variation need to be approved before use in a sanctioned tournament?

[@jannejaakkola5836]

Thes videos are absolutely amazing in how they are informative, approachable and entertaining at the same time. My biggest question with the custom disc service is the PDGA approvals. How fast can they get the approvals and is there any way that could be extended to these personalized variants? In addition to the approvals, I have a big concern with the cost. With CNC the cost is more or less fixed. Whether you make one or one million discs, it will still take that same x minutes to produce one, so there is no scaling. With molding, the starting costs are high but the more you produce the less of an impact the mold cost has on the product. If CNC companies start to pop up, it's going to be really easy for molding companies to discount their prices and still make profits. I bet one disc from molding will not cost more than 2$ to produce so there is a lot of air there. Finally the absolute accuracy is a bit misleading. Once you bag the disc, it will never be absolutely the same. Every single throw changes it so even if you start from the same point, you can't just replace the one you lost and think it will be now covered for years to come (unless you order a new one for every round). So having bunch of discs with some variation is actually what most players look for. In any case, this is a really interesting "invention" and looking forward to seeing where they end up.

[@alexbailey6959]

Incredible video, so proud that you covered a topic like this and are a native to our area!

[@PWheat23]

I preordered one of the prototypes about six months ago and asked them all to sign it. I of course wont throw that one but it does feel pretty dang good. My best description would be, it feels like a domy DX Destroyer. I want to buy a thrower, but a little worried about the durability at $40. Anyone else put this disc to a stress test? On a side note, I love that this company is right here in my home town, OKC. I wish them the best!

[@Pie3.1]

Been talking about cnc discs foe a while. They figured out how to hold them without warping! Kudos. Now we just need the flying ring to be made and accepted for that big dog 1000 ft. Driver. Thankyou andYour welcome. 👋😎✌️

[@scottcrawford3745]

Well; I bit the bullet, and ordered the whole set of 4: +, -, "null" and i versions. With your discount code, that came in at $188 CAD delivered, or $47/ disc. That's actually not all that bad, considering they're nearly prototypes, and that more players than just myself will get to try them and wring out the paces. They'll get well used by several player skill-levels, and thoroughly sampled. Thanks so much for the video, the content in general, and of course, the code. Keep up the good work and bringing us the Disc news from all over the industry and sport.

[@natlwrestler2003]

Thank you for doing this video. I saw that CNC had molds on PDGA's approved disc site and was super curious!

[@caseysmith544]

I see 3D Printed discs become more common as I see this version of CNC having a flaw in needing to carve out disc molds from big pieces of plastic not really used by many companies making only recycled plastic except Trash Panda and one in Pasific Northwest USA who is Claiming to melt used shore plastic down for use in pellets. I do see some companies using ideas for quick tests before a mold is made in CNC using negative of disc dimensions. I see molds going CNC so a redo can be made again in exact specifications for a company. CNC is how Discmanina was able to make a very similar disc of all old molds they used from Innova only making just a hair off so mold flew the same but was not a clone waiting for a lawsuit. Mainly Issue came because of Innova unwilling to look for a new plastic company when Innova eventually had to get a new supplier for plastic because company Innova was using for plastics going into Champion/Glow Champion, Metal flake Champion, and Star/G-Star was no longer operating, shut down due to stress and Corona Virus in 2021.

[@InbredJed82060]

Added this video to favorites. I was psyched when I saw this. I start following them when the CNC got approved. I'm not on the ambassador team. This is also my favorite KZbin channel. It's a good day

[@tylerking7890]

Thanks for sharing and making this video! Been playing disc golf for about 3 1/2 years now and finally, "runs" make more sense to me because of your explanation, so thank you for that, too!! This is pretty dang neat. I think there's certainly a future of disc golf where this becomes more prominent. Maybe a tad more expensive and not as widespread as injection molding, but I think it's so cool to be in a sport that's young enough that new things like this come along and can just add more complexity (and accuracy) to it.

[@Rothhammer_Customs]

This is great, I’m a cnc machinist and have tried a few times to make a disc but can’t get wing profile correct. We have one we use that’s aluminum for our weekly buddy round that is a first place trophy.

[@curtisridenour]

Gateway reusing the cut material is awesome. Well done CNC/Gateway!

[@samblackhole]

This is really cool, have you heard from other manufacturers on whether they want to implement CNC production methods?

[@vega1221]

As a process Engineer, very interesting but a few questions: Can you reduce cost by automating the CNC machines to build custom discs JIT (Just in time) to reduce excess material/production costs? Also, with the custom discs how does that get PDGA approval? Love the idea but to be competitive, need to reduce cost by doing something closer to JIT, therefore they only manufacture the discs ordered.

[@Dubya1886]

Great breakdown of the manufacturing process, I didn’t expect that from this video! I have a CNC- and it is truly a great disc. The plastic has a great feel in the hand and my noodle arm can bomb it about 300ft. I will get the midrange when it comes out!

[@bubbawatson1852]

You did great job on this video, very professional looking, and sounding, and your lax speaking, is perfect tempo.

[@TheEvilDead44]

the problem with the custom cnc tooling is that it wouldnt be sanctioned approved. but this is really freaking sweet

[@hotmustardseed]

I have an NSH 3D printed disc. I wonder how much faster/slower it is to 3D print vs CNC. 3D printers are pretty cheap. Impressive innovation!

[@justwondering1926]

Imagine you walk into a store and they hand you a tech disc and say go throw this and tell us about the shots you like to throw, how big your hands are, what’s comfortable etc. You try out some examples, throw in a field a couple times. A computer or engineer then takes that data says thank you, your driver line up will be ready for you in a week. You go back and you have custom discs overstable understable neutral all feeling similar and exactly as you like, a forehand disc, and the speeds that you throw. And there’s a file with your name on it so they can recreate your discs whenever you need more.

[@rogerhuston8287]

I'm interested in the custom disc program, however, I still have a lot of questions. What about lighter discs, say I want a 165g or a 155g? Also, does a disc with different plastic blends, cut exactly the same, fly exactly the same? Or do the different plastics just cool slightly differently in the same mould therefore giving them different fly characteristics?

[@Crouchdown]

The dimensions aren't the only variable in flight. The plastic polymerization is a random process but this is very cool especially the inverted rim

[@DragonDisc]

I would love to try one of those CNC discs 💪🏽

[@solidstate90]

In my opinion, the only way we'll see companies choose CNC over injection molding is if a CNC machine specifically designed for machining plastic parts comes to market, significantly reducing the initial cost. This way, similar to a 3D print farm, you could have multiple machines creating hundreds of discs or more per day.

[@andrews6323]

As a CNC lathe operator, avid disc golfer, and Gateway enthusiast i gotta get my hands on one of these.

[@tonylooper4932]

I'm not sure if you mentioned surface finish. This might matter most to those of us who like to use a "fan" grip for some throws (I like to use a "fan" grip for putt, approach, and even some fairway shots). I think this could theoretically be done with injection molded discs also, but a CNC turned disc could have a different surface finish on different surfaces of the disc. At least different "zones" (as measured from the rotational axis of the disc) could have different surface finishes. And the top surface could have a different surface finish than the bottom surface.

[@Holycow723]

If you buy the 3 pack with discount code it's like getting a free disc. $80 for all 3. Pretty cool..

[@DavidBogenhagen]

What about the tooling cost related to cutting the 2nd side?

[@AvroDiscGolf]

Very cool! For rapid prototyping of an injection-molded disc, I have found 3D printing is also a great alternative. It is cheap and easy to set up, but the quality isn't as good as those CNC discs!

[@KobOneArt]

Such a great and informative video! I appreciate the great insight... and what they're doing is amazing! Keep up the great work!!

[@trevorkruse9188]

I have been waiting for this discussion being that I play disc golf and work in the field of manual lathe and CNC production. Costs would be so expensive but if you want that new technology Taylor Made ball golf driver to boost your game you’re going to have to pay for it, right?

[@VashTS21]

cant wait to see you guys tackle the 3d printed discs

[@ninjalectualx]

I got this video recommended right after watching Simon Lizotte throwing a machined aluminum disc so I was expecting something very different 🤣

[@relmukneb]

Very cool, but I think you're still overselling the precision/accuracy a bit. Getting blanks from an injection mold will still lead to slight changes in the density of the plastic and even if cut to the exact same shape will fly slightly differently. They will also still beat in over time and change the flight characteristics. The customization is really the coolest thing imo

[@nickfotopoulos5323]

You can perfectly seal a mold. The gap is left intentionally so you can easily see when a proper amount of plastic was injected. You know how tires have those little rubber hair like things sticking up everywhere. Those serve the same purpose.

[@stephenfrancais]

Very interesting. Seems like that in the future we will get “fitted” for a bag of discs just like golfers get fitted for a bag of clubs. Exciting stuff.

[@dihlund]

This is of course very typical for many kinds of products. Simpler versions are produced cheaply in high volume for the average consumer, while high-end versions are produced in less volume using more time consuming and more flexible methods, like machining. The latter are higher quality, more precise, often custom made, but naturally costlier. Each method fills a space, but the challenge for the high-end alternative is typically to hit a marked big enough to make it commercially viable; usually the price needs to be higher than any marked is willing to pay. The customizability and wider design flexibility is certainly interesting, but I think what is more interesting is that if they avoid injection moulding completely and create the blanks another way, you open up a lot of other material choices.

[@bobbymusick]

Great stuff here! Keep up the excellent work. How about the plastic density?

[@quaxie]

I agree the idea of the same disc people will buy.

[@WakeNBakeDK]

How do you get different weights?

[@Veggamattic]

I assume they get understable when beat in like any disc.

[@dblevins343]

I kept waiting to see the cost. As I suspected, these are substantially more expensive because you are adding an entire step into the process of making a disc. While it is true prototyping could be faster (which is where I really see them getting used), this slower production time would far outweigh the benefits in my opinion. This is exactly why I don't see them taking off. $20-25 is already a hard pill to swallow. $40 is pretty steep. I understand that costs could possibly work their way down with time but this is too much money discs. At the end of the day, most discs fly how I'm expecting them to fly (given their plastic type). While some companies seem to be more consistent than others, we have plenty of great options at the much cheaper price. With that said, I can see professionals using them. They aren't paying for their discs after all. Simon himself has said that he loses around 2-3 discs every time he plays Maple Hill for casual rounds. Players like him would love the consistency provided by this and the cost is a non-factor.

[@jackdhammer]

All good points.

[@txmxer]

I'm surprised they can produce them for $40. And while molds cost money, CNC setup is very pricey. The other issue will be getting the pdga to sign off for use in competition. I think that could be done but would not some additional rules in the technical standards. That would likely impact custom discs produced onsite or in general.

[@danfranks1828]

Do you think cost will come down? I remember when full hdtv 50” was $600-700. Today you can get the same for $250-300

[@KhufuhK]

I wonder if they'd be able to clone a disc. Maybe some sort of 3D scan and then cut to reproduce.

[@SixSidedDiscs]

Sounds likely!

[@mahazroko6753]

I had an idea of making brand new beat-in discs. Imagine being able to buy a new yet already well seasoned KCPro Roc (or a Destroyer, or any disc that flies well when beat-in) mold with all the dings and scuffs already there, but in extra durable premium plastic that would last you a very long time.

[@justbrowsing5279]

Conceptually this is a huge game changer. If there aren't unforeseen issues. Combine this with the new disc throwing robot and we could have some seriously accurate flight numbers with seriously consistent performance from disc to disc. We'll see. I'd be happy to pay more to really know what I'm getting. These people should get in contact with the disc robot guy immediately.

[@McSlobo]

Cool... but, well, CNC machines wear out too... so your machined copies aren't necessarily identical. That's where the time goes too: maintenance. Traditionally CNC is better suited for manufacturing complicated and costly objects than plastic plates that can be manufactured super cheaply using other processes. You could use CNC machines in combination with casting: cut that angle inside the rim and remove flashing. Less wasteful than cutting a disc completely out of some blank. I'm also wondering if some post heat shaping could be used for discs - because you can remove bumps at home with just hot water and some weights.

[@Cabe71]

it's $10 more than a limited edition disc, and with this code it's on par with one. not that bad of a price point for perfection

[@momentomoridoth2007]

the future is additive, not subtractive. you can reproduce even more exact conditions with 3d printing. I have 4 3d printers, and also own some subtractive tools like a lathe and a mill. a 3d printer with a temperature-controlled enclosure is much more consistent.

[@MattJenkins1979]

Big manufacturers are not going to go to CNC for mass production. A subtractive process like CNC is way too time consuming to be profitable. I would highly doubt the time comparison is accurate because they are likely molding multiple discs at a time. It sounds cool, but will likely be a niche product at best.

[@Carter_Martinson]

I see trashpanda having a great supply of good plastic!

[@pappaparadokset5500]

Just ordered the two-pack after watching this!

[@dustinharville7546]

As a cnc machine operator , I approve.

[@martyjenkins3631]

Are any of these approved for tournaments?

[@SixSidedDiscs]

Yes, the CNC, CNC+, CNC- and CNCi are all approved by the PDGA. www.pdga.com/technical-standards/equipment-certification/discs?manufacturer=303579

[@martyjenkins3631]

@@SixSidedDiscs But the approved discs all have very specific weights, rim depth, depth to diameter ratio, etc. If you change the disc from the approved model, do you not violate rule 813 by modifying?

[@SixSidedDiscs]

@@martyjenkins3631 That's definitely a fair question and I would assume yes, changes to the shape of the disc would probably require additional approval. There is time and cost associated with that but I'm confident in saying if a player wants that equipment bad enough, they would find a way to get it approved, or as we've seen in the last few years, the PDGA is certainly not above making changes to their rules, and then rolling them back, perhaps approval guidelines of the future will be different and just include things within a certain set of parameters...who knows? But I do still believe there are some very exciting implications to this technology improving. Also, just a quick side thought, what's the difference between intentional changes to a design on a CNC machine versus the natural inconsistencies of injection molding? Was the Destroyer approved in DX plastic? Because its made in dozens of different blends and they are awfully different? Anyways, great question and thanks for watching!

[@Munchylego]

Great video! Just ordered one.

[@SirFroth]

I like this I think jake wolff would be good for this company he’d be able to design his bag for all the crazy throws he does

[@mategajdacs]

Greg you would be great in some kind of scientific tv show, like a How it’s made

[@RobertHanz]

I mean obviously it will have less variance than molding due to the process.

[@More-Sauce-Man]

You're not exactly right about the molding... there are molds that are made of softer metal so they can be easily and cheaply changed to make those small changes before final production. So the cost savings there aren't quite as high as you make it seem.

[@thegrizzly52]

discs change so much during their lifespan, I just don't see the value in having a "perfectly" replicable disc.

[@Joellivin]

Hopefully the pdga will give some sort of blanket approval as long as cnc cut discs fall within certain dimensions.

[@SixSidedDiscs]

They are all approved so far: www.pdga.com/technical-standards/equipment-certification/discs?manufacturer=303579

[@Joellivin]

@SixSidedDiscs thanks for the reply, I was talking more about the future possibilities of more custom discs that the customer can tweak slight dimensions of to get the exact desired flight. Altitude players (I'm in the Denver area) come to mind. If the pdga views each of these slight differences as a different "mold" then approval could be a nightmare.

[@kimmomatikainen1843]

@@SixSidedDiscs But if they make customized discs on order, those won't be PDGA approved and that doesn't matter if it is not used in PDGA sanctioned event. Could make the weirdest bag ever for fun rounds.

[@mahazroko6753]

Well, a disc having to be PDGA approved is done so that all the discs don't exceed (or are less than) a certain dimension, weight, rigidity and have a specific wing profile (have i missed something?). Out of those four you could theoretically only change the wing profile and otherwise have the same, standardized disc shape (there is a bit more to it i know, but still) that would fall under the confines of the rules. I doubt the PDGA would be willing to budge too much, there is money to be made with discs approvals, but perhaps they would be willing to meet them half way or something. I mean as long as the discs are safe (i think the rigidity requirement is there because of that) and don't exceed the maximum weight and dimensions (diameter, height, rim width) i don't see a reason not to open the whole thing to experimenting.

[@ChadSolberg]

At this point I cannot afford a disc at that price. But for new players this will be amazing. They wont have already sunk a ton of money into inconsistent discs.

[@Chain_Star_Productions]

Outro music?

[@brettduffin8412]

Doubt this will work. Higher production cost will kill it, and all that consistency is out the window after 15 throws... there is the issue of different plastic densities which is not touched on.

[@ronsmiththumber]

Can you do a review of NSH discs?

[@SixSidedDiscs]

They are the 3d printed discs right? I reached out to them but maybe I’ll have to order a couple.

[@ronsmiththumber]

Yes, he has twenty different designs pdga approved and is one of the most creative thinkers I know. Do reach out again, he is a part of your description of the future of disc golf

[@kendricsomonfrek]

This sounds like the future of big manufacturing prototypes

[@rogerhuston8287]

I HATE buying the same disc, years later and have it fly completely different. It is one of my biggest agrivations with the sport. Makes loosing a disc you really like, doubley bad.

[@ChrisSolarski]

Great video!

[@DeadphishyEP3]

Custom will be a problem when it needs to be PDGA approved.

[@nataledinatale1198]

Good Stuff!!

[@aamrusch]

I picked up a CNC from their kickstarter, and my only complaint is that they get their plastic from Gateway. Their premium plastic is nowhere near as durable as other vendors, ant it also just feels like junky plastic.

[@stoehr]

Code doesn’t work anymore. Ain’t no way I’m gonna pay 40 bucks for a disc. Was gonna buy one with the discount code.

[@davereilly2546]

I think if they bring a cnc machine to the course and make a custom disc, theres no way that disc would be pdga approved

[@TheKobool]

Every company that does injection molding should use cnc for prototypeing.

[@bmfitz2647]

I’m interested! 😅

[@JJ79_]

As a cnc machinist I say it's way too expensive and still lots of varibles when machining the plastic. Just watch the video and you will see the disc wobling a lot when it spins on lathe. Also if they drive to the course and machine while waiting I'm pretty sure the price is not 39,90 ;)

[@tktspeed1433]

the wobbling is probably the blank not being completely centered

[@JJ79_]

@@tktspeed1433 It is and thats why it's not reliable way to do discs.

[@seth8141]

If they can make me a new "understable" destroyer., (where the rim is pretty much straight. flies like a beat in destroyer.) I'll buy em because I hate buying discs and how the disc flies is just how the batch went. Maybe buy another? No thanks.

[@kimmomatikainen1843]

GStar? Pro plastic? Buy used Destroyers that are beat in for you? That is what I do. Or I give/sell new Destroyers and buy/get those back with half the money when it is too understable for the bigger arm. You don't even have to pay the price of a new one and you get a better one. Few times I have swapped one new Destroyer to two almost perfectly beaten ones. There are also a ton of molds that are less stable Destroyers.

[@mahazroko6753]

I had an idea of making brand new beat-in discs. Imagine being able to buy a new yet already well seasoned KCPro Roc (or a Destroyer, or any disc that flies well when beat-in) mold with all the dings and scuffs already there, but in extra durable premium plastic that would last you a very long time.

[@RiverWilliamson]

Doki-doki [heartbeat] disc?

[@arise2]

Promo code aint working 💀

[@SixSidedDiscs]

I believe it has expired

[@SRDiscgolf]

Just ordered thanx for the discount i am fascinated by the concept

[@jonthomas3065]

I proposed machining discs years ago and people told me I was crazy.

[@tomt760]

#INNOVA

[@myopiczeal]

Gonna say it right now: CNC is not the future of disc golf. It might be useful for rapid prototyping, but for mass production, injection molding wins every time. So I can't have a disc tailor-made for me. Oh, well. At least when I buy an injection molded disc, I'm not paying $40 for a gimmick.

[@jojodamajicmunky]

The ingenuity and outside the box thinking in the disc golf world is incredible. I can definitely see pros loving the idea of customizing their discs. With the injection process is it physically impossible to have an inverted rim (ie it sticks in the mold?). I can see a world where even just inversion/rim modifications are done after injection molding. THE FUTURE IS NOW!

[@curtisridenour]

I bet the Clash Discs Tone undermold would allow for an inverted rim. Hmmmmm

[@JerichoSprague]

Hmm precision custom disc I was just going to affect the PDGA approval

[@thehyzerline]

Very similar to how a Professional Golfer has his irons, bent, weighted, lofted to his exact swing. I can 100% see pros at this level.