The Gloam Eyed Queen is a Snake | Elden Ring Speculation Before DLC

[@stakesishigh516]

Miyazaki is sending a Godskin Trio to timdiggity’s house as we speak.

[@Bro-dot-]

Summon me and I’ll be there.

[@bossofdeath7862]

HE'S COOKING AGAIN ! SOMEONE STOP HIM !! HE'S SPOILING THE ENTIRE GAME !!

[@timdiggity]

Found Miyazaki

[@hassangames9134]

​@@timdiggity perfect video once again. Also one more detail about your MIQUELLA IS melina video is that both characters want a world of peace since melina will k!ll you when you become the lord of frenzied flame in other words melina and miquella will hunt you down for fking everything up

[@CodyLayne-j7v]

Hey man really appreciate your input. You give the best lore guys a run for their money.

[@CrimsonBladezz]

You want spoilers the entire dlc is about mequilla is trying to start the eclipse so he can bring godwin back to live… that the reason why he sent melania to fight radoghn because he was hold back to start and fate

[@CrimsonBladezz]

Oh st trina will be a boss fight…not mequilla but st trina the alter ego think of it has fight radaghon

[@garrulousgoldmask]

It was great collaborating with you Tim! (aka having a dissociative episode TOGETHAAAAAAA)

[@timdiggity]

And thanks so much for your great contributions! We will spoil the DLC for everyone.. TOGETHAA

[@garrulousgoldmask]

@@timdiggity Not even Michael Zaki himself can stop us! (*unintelligible but happy snake noises*)

[@WheatDos]

TOGETHAAAA, you will devour the very LORE!!!!

[@zlatkotasevski9609]

"Mom, the scary man in my phone is making sense again. Can you come and get me?"

[@nickperri6571]

Tim is just Miyazaki giving us the answers because we can’t figure it out ourselves. Miyazaki just acts like he can’t speak English so that he can secretly make this videos under this false name.

[@timdiggity]

Timdiggity is Miyazaki | Elden Ring Lore Speculation

[@CrimsonBladezz]

I doubt that clown even know’s the answer

[@HottiePersona]

sounds very marika like 😭

[@anakinskyguy500]

Both names have an M in it, coincidence? I think not!

[@SoldSoul22]

Bro is COOKINGGGGGGG who gave him the hidden files😭😭

[@carita3983]

This actually makes SO MUCH sense. Also the fact that the power of runes and other outer gods is manifested through the EYES, think madness, grace and dragon eyes. So maybe thats why shes taking something directly from the serpent's eye.

[@mrdeanypants]

I totally agree, that was the first thing I thought of when he revealed the snake art. Everything is connected to eyes in ER - to add some more to your list: the Beast eye, the Fell God's eye on the Giants, Astel/Falllingstar's Eyehead, the fact that the blood-star only appears to people who have had their eyes blinded (i.e. the influence of other gods diminished), the fact that we see a bunch of skulls around the Lands Between with glowing eyes which turn out to contain Runes.

[@MinerDiner]

I can see where you come from for madness and it's power being manifested through the eyes, but I'm not sure what you mean by the power of runes and eyes, grace eyes, and the dragon eyes. As far as dragon eyes go- that's only where the transformation into a dragon starts. The eyes become dragon eyes as the first sign of dragon communion but the power doesn't manifest from the eyes.

[@carita3983]

@@MinerDiner The tarnished are characterized by not having that yellow shine in their eyes... Meaning they can't see / are not influenced by grace (the elden beast or God thats part of the golden order). Godfrey used to have those golden eyes for example. The dragon eyes I see it as a form of transformation that starts by consuming or taking the power of dragons. Dragons also had a god that allegedly disappeared a long time ago. Basically, elden ring has this very clear connection between power and eyes. And also runes that you find throughout the world, the more runes they give you the more they look like irises.

[@Ezekiel_Allium]

I dont think there's a special dragon outer god though? Unless I'm forgetting something, weren't the dragons also followers of the greater will? Hence Placidussy's holy beams and such.

[@Zeminix]

​@@Ezekiel_Alliumnot all holy damage is that of the Golden Order or Greater Will. Just as not all bleed damage is from the Formless Mother, or flame from the Fell God. Placidusax states that it was abandoned by it's god. That could have been the Greater Will, but it very well could have been another god.

[@The-BCM]

Snakes shed their skin -- so if you're right, I would think the "godskin" the Apostle's wear is actually the shed skin of that serpent itself, rather than just trying to mimic its appearance.

[@CNNBlackmailSupport]

Except they have faces and shit on them. Maybe certain ones do, but the ones in the game clearly have the recognizable features of individual people on their outfits.

[@metalface_villain]

doesn't their lore say they slayed gods and wore their skins though? am i remembering wrong? plus the skins they wear look made up of humanoid creatures not a snake

[@benjaminotalora363]

@@metalface_villain Maybe that's what they have to do now that the serpent is dead. It would give them a pretty valid reason to begin the godhunt if it's literally the only way they can reproduce

[@The-BCM]

@@metalface_villain Looking at the armor set descriptions, it only says they are made "by sewing together patches of smooth skin." If there's other lore bits out there that say it's specifically the gods they killed, I just don't recall it (I could be wrong). There are humanish faces on the outfits, but there's also symbols, shapes, and embroidery. I don't think that's definitive. The base skin is smooth & white...which also isn't like a typical snake but would match the specific one in the Story Trailer (assuming this theory is right).

[@StarlingInSpace]

@@The-BCMdon’t the faces also have golden eyes?

[@SmoughTown]

Great video Tim - you are cooking rn, loving the content!

[@timdiggity]

Legend! Thanks, that means a lot!

[@anaguma90]

The GOAT himself.

[@pop_x3]

Honey wake up! Timdiggity’s about to have another schizo episode.

[@tmbocelot]

I like that you present these theories with the tone you use. I can’t stand watching theory videos where I feel like I’m being yelled at or they’re choosing to act like if you disagree with them you’re wrong

[@Rune-l0rd]

I always thought the bracelet on Marika looked like a snake coiled around her arm.

[@Solibrae]

Yes, indeed. Seems a little ironic for a Queen of a culture which vehemently hates snakes, hmm?

[@Dastardly_Duo]

I thought the exact same thing. And it made sense when she later took them off

[@AntiRiku]

I love how so many lore channels have popped up recently with mindblowing theories. It's crazy how there is so much we've yet to understand about Elden Ring.

[@rexsybimatrimawahyu3292]

Bro held Miyazaki at gun point at this one to get the answers

[@OscarTheStrategist]

This is BLASPHEMOUS! 😂 I don’t care if your predictions are right or wrong, the curiosity and courage it takes to put up these kinds of videos is admirable. GG!

[@timdiggity]

Such a nice comment, thank you so much!

[@GenghisTron]

Hear me out. The crucible was a mating pile of snaked resembling a crucible knot. The Chinese Snake Knot symbolizes good fortune. In ancient Chinese culture the snake is considered the guardian of treasure and riches. It's also a symbol of wisdom and strength. This beautiful and unique decorative knot can be used to make a purse handle, a choker-style necklace, a belt or a bracelet.

[@somethingsomewhatoriginal6436]

like the curling snake emblem on the depraved perfumers armor set

[@GenghisTron]

@somethingsomewhatoriginal6436 and they're aligned with a house from a far off land... that deals with poison and rot... honestly it just makes sense.

[@chitowntexan9783]

At this point this guy is just a dev trying to point us in the right direction fr

[@Longboiquik]

😂😂😂

[@soldierqo]

Just continue, I like all your elden ring videos

[@timdiggity]

Woah, my first super chat! Thank you so much, will do!

[@soldierqo]

I really think that burned,kneeling lady in the trailer is melina, I think she was a twin sister of messmer and marika sacrificed her to ascend to the godhood (among others) and afterwards locked mesmer as Marika wasnt able to kill him

[@soldierqo]

based on this I would say that Miquela is really purely good character,extremly intelligent who found out about the truth…the truth would be that he would need to kill his mother and father,all his siblings to be able to start a new order.therefore he decided to quit the process and we will see in dlc what awaits us

[@timdiggity]

@@soldierqo I definitely agree that Miquella is a good character, based on what we know now. Maybe he will be revealed to have done some bad things. But as of now, I agree, I think he found out what Marika did and wants to put a stop to the cycle

[@bunkjer]

9:20 the blasphemous blade also drains/restores HP, which just further deepens its connection to the godskins 😳

[@sudhanshusinha623]

EVERY snake weapon restores HP

[@ironymaiden1089]

​@@sudhanshusinha623 well, not EVERY weapon. There is also the Devourer's Scepter, that steals HP with its skill, but not Serpentbone Blade, Coil Shield, or Venomous Fang (which, to be fair, were made by men for gladiatorial combat and lack legendary status, unlike Devourer's Scepter or Blasphemous Blade), nor the magma weapons, wielded by man-serpents, nor the godskin weapons.

[@brynmisk]

HP being Crimson Tears, the sap of the Erdtree. Literally regaining strength from destroying the Erdtree-blooded.

[@danehofer8558]

ABDUCTOR VIRGINS ARE SAD WOMEN WITH BABIES AND HAVE SERPENTINE FEATURES, including the internal snakes that grab you and pull you in!

[@JW86100]

@@brynmisk Taker's Cameo regaining HP to the wearer when killing another. Serpent-God's Curved Sword doing the same. hmmmge.

[@BigBadWolframio]

Yeeees, it also looked like an eye to me! And since runes look so much like irises and we can get them from crushing skulls, I theorised the threads are made of the same "material" (energy) as runes are, basically the power of the Elden Ring. And the intro about the seduction and betrayal, paired with the snake and tree imageries make this into a really compeling theory. PS: thanks for lowering the background music a pinch! It's still nice to have it there, but it makes it easier to listen to you ♥

[@mattiagaggiato5937]

gotta be honest, i don't care if all of this guy theories are right or wrong, i just enjoy the yapping

[@abdelrahmankhaled8239]

This guy has only 3 videos and he's single handedly melting the entire community's collective brain

[@WillsKing]

The "Am I crazy for thinking this" theories are exactly what we need right now. This is good stuff here

[@oswaldbelderiver6230]

After playing the dlc, i cant help but think of this video. Perhaps taking the golden strands out of the serpent's eye is the act that inspired "the priests of the Erdtree" to create the Iris of Occlusion. Maybe that serpent is the Abyssal snake, that may or may not also be the Gloam Eyed Queen. When Mesmer pops out the Iris of Grace, it would be out of the same eye that Marika took the golden strands out of. Maybe that's why she abandoned mesmer, because she fears the power of the Abyssal snake if it were to ever spring free.

[@FelipeSantos-wu1uf]

Also as we all know, the serpent seduced Adam and Eve to eat the apple, it could be the case that the GEQ (serpent) seduced Radagon, while Messmer, their son, represents the betrayal, then Marika went nuts and killed her.

[@anakinskyguy500]

I personally believe its the other way around, Marika used Radagon to seduce the GEQ, she basically did the same thing with Rennala

[@Dastardly_Duo]

​@@anakinskyguy500That would make way more sense. Marika has been the evil, manipulative one in the entire story. That's just her character

[@FelipeSantos-wu1uf]

@@Dastardly_Duo thats what the trailer wants us to think but it can be a curve ball

[@liamace1107]

Only problem is Miyazaki confirmed Messmer is Marika's child, so it'd be a bit complicated if he's somehow Radagon and GEQ's kid too

[@AJtehJetPlane]

@@liamace1107well as the statue in Leyndell tells us “Radagon is Marika”

[@pavonian7531]

So the Gloam Eyed queen was the god to Placidusax in the age before the Erdtree, when she gave birth to many demigod children including the godskins and the god devouring serpent. When the Numen people arrived in the lands betwene the Numen empyrion Marika (in the form of Radagon who had not yet developed his own personality) infiltrated the royal capital of Farum Azula, seduced and betrayed GEQ and when she went to pull the shards of the elden ring from her still warm corpse discovered their unwanted child within. Placidusax fled taking the capital with him, and Marika used her firstborn son as a weapon to subdue the lands at the heart of the old order whilst she built the new one. In the history books Marika would swap the roles of herself and the Gloam Eyed Queen, portraying the serpent as the traitor to the erdtree instead of the other way round and hiding all the evidence of the truth away in shadow.

[@OuroborosTheGM]

Holy shit, good job with the swapping story!

[@borismcqueen1959]

Smexy theory ya got there!

[@Leo_Carrilo]

I always thought Marika had something to do with this whole thing about Placidusax's god fleeing. I really like your idea

[@RubALamp]

Whether this turns out to be true or not, I like this interpretation of the story. The only thing that seems to be a bit of a reach is Placidusax being the consort to the Gloam Eyed Queen.

[@Zeminix]

​@@RubALampconsidering dragons can take a human form, I don't think it would be too far fetched.

[@Weivarr]

Just this week I had a thought watching the Godskin Noble at Gelmir, with the snake skin in the background, that maybe the skin / armor of the godskin's is made of the shed skin of a snake that has eaten gods. Rykard's face appearing on the God-Devouring Serpent could mean that the faces of other gods a different snake has eaten would appear too. So the GEQ being a snake would fit that nicely ;P

[@Shuggen84]

Right! And the God Devouring Serpent ate not only gods but Rykards soldiers, I think the ghost in volcano manor was eaten, and theres corpses all over rykards arena. The devoured may manifest in the skin thats used to create godskin armor.

[@Nhillus47]

you spittin fr

[@artevar_]

Coming back to this video after it has been implied in the dlc that melina (the only candidate to be the gloam eyed queen) might be Messmer's sister Knowing that messmer had the base serpent eating away at his kindling since birth it would make sense that his "younger sister" would also be afflicted

[@seth_kori]

2:30 couldn't help but notice the giant snake head in the background that looks pretty close to the one in the trailer

[@Sai-bm8hj]

Thinking about it now, Marika gave birth to the omen twins after she got rid of the crucible and so it’s like there was a curse upon her. If the Gloam eyed queen really was a snake, it would make sense that Messmer was cursed with the snake form after Marika had Maliketh slain her, thus cursing her lineage.

[@timdiggity]

Ive been thinking the same thing after playing the DLC. Marika’s victims seem to repeat themselves in her children. Malenia’s rot curse even has a parallel with Romina and the Church of the Bud being burned in the war.

[@Sai-bm8hj]

⁠well, yes!

[@Yggdrasillpeter]

@@timdiggity You know, you may actually be completely right about the thing in the opening sequence of the trailer being a snake. It is the Abyssal Serpent SHORN of light, meaning it once possessed light. Shearing means to remove fleece or hair, and those golden strands that Marika removes sure do look like strands of hair to me.

[@AzazelHash281]

it makes perfect sense, because as we know, runes come from the eyes, same as madness appears in the eyes

[@JC-Alan]

I came back to tell you that you’re right and I can prove it. At the least, Melina was like Mesmer in stature/physique.

[@EuclideanVision]

To fit the GEQ still being human so as to be Empyrean (if it matters) - she could be wearing the skin (cast-off or not) of the Serpent God, grafting its power into herself? Great video!

[@lunateac]

Dude i LOVE this theory and ever since fighting messmer a few days ago i CAN NOT get the whole snake imagery out of my head. After finding your video today it made *click* on so many levels. I was wondering WHY and HOW Rykard found out about there being a snake deity and why he turned to THAT ONE specifically if Marika always forbid everything related to snakes and it was so frowned upon. Why was he SO obsessed? Maybe because in his position as being a PRAETOR he found out about some of the stuff marika tried to hide away - as well as marika ASCENDING to godhood because of - possibly- taking something from a very snake? Your image about the "womb" actually being a snake blew me away - also the mention of the beast eye WHICH IS ALSO WITH A PURPLE HUE is SO fitting. Now after we know that Marika literally used SEALS in the form of EYES to seal away something - I had a thought: Theoretically if Messmer and Melina are related and one has a literal Eye-seal - might Melina ALSO have one of those seals (on the side that is closed?) sealing away a part of OR even the soul of TGEQ. Because in the game we find 2 items that FIT this purpose so wonderfully: Marikas Soreseal (which I think is the one Messmer got that says: "This legendary talisman is an eye engraved with an Elden Rune, said to be the seal of Queen Marika. Solemn duty weighs upon the one beholden; not unlike a gnawing curse from which there is no deliverance."

[@timdiggity]

You get it! We’re not crazy! And great point about the “serpent never dies” quote, that makes a lot of sense with the whole “defeated” thing! Also, did you see what’s hidden in the woods just North of Bonny Village?

[@zoronicthezor2442]

​@timdiggity what you find there could be closely related to messmer, as just nearby is the important emote "O Mother," which is used to get to Marikas hometown. This could imply Messmer emerged from the snake skin in Bonney Village, as his Abyssal Snake form is a white snake. It also wouldn't be the first time for a souls game for something to crawl it's way from a husk/adjacent vessel in a human form (i get heavy Orphan of Kos vibes)

[@ShinStriderHiryu]

new theory, messmer and melina are the sons of the gloam eyed queen, thats why messmer has no eyes, because marika removed and replaced with her soresseal, and melina has her eye sealed, only revealed after you burn the entire golden order with the frenzy. Or something like that

[@theneef174]

Man I wish the dlc said like anything about the gloam eyed queen

[@eldur565]

I hope I can play the dlc without already knowing every fucking plot twist because of your videos

[@caydespliff181]

From the first time I saw this trailer it looked like godskin cloth that marika was reaching into. it has the same thick folds, white color, and you can faintly see stitching. however we see a godskin in the temple of eglay in the volcano manner- this could tie into that. snakes definitely have a role that we don’t fully grasp yet. Also it seems strange that marika would reach into a snakes eye, where as reaching into the parted cloth of a corpses’ clothing makes more sense. (after typing I have a thought, snakes’ eyes turn a milky blue color just before they shed their skin- this is an oily secretion that helps the old skin slide off, so…assuming the gloam queen *was a snake, maybe this skin shedding was where the idea for the godskins came from? maybe the color of her eyes influenced her title as queen?)

[@Solibrae]

That's great thinking, maybe the Godskin Apostles originally wore their own mother's shed skin, but then moved on to using the skin of other Demigods after she was killed, as a way to both gain power and get revenge on Marika!

[@caydespliff181]

@@Solibrae that sounds like something I could really see being true!(maybe) didn’t even make that connection

[@Solibrae]

@@caydespliff181 Indeed! Well, your comment helped me think of it, so it was a team effort. The Godskin Swaddling Cloth says that it is "made from supple skin sewn together" but not what that skin comes from, so maybe we're on to something here! We'll just have to wait and see.

[@planetzdr]

1:38 Love to see the use of Neon White’s music in an Elden Ring speculation video of all places. Such a dope game.

[@SirianXM]

Tim you crazy, Frenzied Flame adherent... You're speaking heresy! (and making so much sense!)

[@camusment]

Thank you!! I was thinking the same thing. I always thought that swishy swirly thing behind Marikas statue could be a loose snakeskin. The reverse roles of seduction and betrayal between "Eve" and the snake seem very interesting too.

[@SoundOfMan]

Eyes and tears have so much significance in Elden Ring, and other FromSoft games too! For example in Sekiro, the Divine Dragon also dwells in another realm, has a closed left eye, and its tears are basically the most important item in the game.

[@jimb.598]

Love these videos! The beauty of Elden Ring is that it leaves room for open interpretation and speculation.

[@blazecow1133]

Great video also the gloam eyed queen's sword looks like two serpents intertwining

[@uninhibition31]

It's amazing how much information and speculation can be gleaned from a cinematic. Keep up the great work!

[@yellowflash511]

IM SOLD BRO AGAIN KEEP IT COMING WE EDGING HARD AT THIS POINT

[@Longboiquik]

Pause bro

[@YumFitzsomeone]

YOU DID IT BROTHER! THIS IS WHAT WE'VE BEEN LOOKING FOR!

[@Skinhead_Stan]

This is exactly what the community needed, a certified, unrepentant, balls-to-the-walls schizo. Your vids bring back memories to the early days of Dark Souls 1 theory crafting that went on back then. I honestly don't even care if they're even close to true or not, they're just too entertaining.

[@rkatlr5508]

im 5 seconds into the video and had to pause because the music choice just punched me in the throat. thank you for reminding me of that song

[@sudhanshusinha623]

I haven't seen these many theories since game of thrones ended

[@timdiggity]

I was one of the guys posting crazy theories on Reddit about Game of Thrones back then too lmao

[@devinguy]

Everyone thinking it's a womb when runes are literally kept in the eyes of everything in The Lands Between. Goddamn this guy SMART.

[@KitsuneShapeShifter]

I love it, awesome thinking! So, as Miyazaki, let me tell you this part of the Lore. Gloam Eyed Queen is the TWIN of Marika, and Godwyn is the TWIN of Messmer.

[@cheesecrew]

For the point near the end about melina not showing the eye. The eye that is Gloam is the same one that she had closed with the claw mark seal. In the frenzy ending, that seal has faded(most likely cause Maliketh ded at that point). You can still see a sort of 'scar' where it once was. So she had it the whole time; it just wasn't shown until that cutscene. Im not convinced about Messmer possibly being born of Radagon and this potential snake. Im fairly certain Radagon doesnt start existing until well after the GEQ and Erdtree creation events

[@hoitheguy]

Demigods born of a single god are cursed by an outside god, and since its been confirmed that Melina is Messmir's sister, it would make sense that she would be cursed by another serpent god, the Gloam Eyed Queen.

[@LogoMotive11]

I was literally up late last night trying to piece together what exactly the Gloam Eyed queen is and this theory has me reeling. Really really feeling the connection with snakes + godskins. Great vid.

[@dubzilla1979]

you can find white snake skin in bonny village in bushes not far from "O mother" gesture

[@_bo7o]

Never even thought that the sack or "thing" that marika is taking that gold strand out could even be a serpents head dam

[@Jesus-jq5zw]

An eye!! I totally was thinking about something else...

[@SenorBassam]

You’re not alone 🥲

[@freshhands9461]

We all did...the others just won't admit it 😂

[@phantomleaves]

@@freshhands9461 I... I admit it

[@GelyelFish]

Whenever people suggest it's a womb... Well they do mean womb, but I think it doubles as a euphemism here lol

[@murasamex]

🐈

[@JBrukarz]

The blackflame sigil looks like two or more snakes wrapping around itself to create a shape. The shape itself looks like the silhouette of a snake head! The double helix pattern is seen on MANY things in the game, but the Godslayer sword itself seems very much reminiscent of two snakes mating. You are COOKING bro!

[@durkee8823]

Mesmer was the love child of Radagon and the Gloom Eyed Queen. Red hair and snakes were the give away. Also in the trailer talks about an “affair” and “betrayal”.

[@Crabo99]

Radagon hair was red cause of the giants. I think all of this happened before the war of the giants.

[@CrimsonBladezz]

Doesnt make any sense maliketh kill the gloam eye queen what ever that thing its not her

[@Goon3rd]

“Taboo the game” Loving it

[@tarrencetherock1938]

that would actually be really cool if true

[@blucosmic7751]

Radagon is a player god damnnnn

[@potionsalesman]

gotta say the DOPAMINE hit of hearing that Sonic Adventure 2 song made me realise that this video is going to be a banger

[@RecusantEcho]

Umbasa as my witness the boy timdiggity gone done it again.

[@michaelostergren3516]

My brain exploded with past information as soon as i saw the thumbnail.

[@jipowap]

Three heads missing from papa super dragon. Two great snakes, bodiless dragons...

[@JoshBourke]

This makes some sense too. If it wasnt a snake but a dragon head cut from Plasuesidusiax

[@ponz3974]

Dude is the best Elden ring theory channel after a few videos. This is a crazy run so far.

[@ladooshka]

Timdiggity should take over George Martin's A Song of Ice and Fire and finally finish it for all of us. An amazing imagination!

[@kevexcellent]

I suggest you look at the beginning scene from the perspective that Marika is gigantic compared to a "normal-sized" human.

[@kevexcellent]

C-Sections are sometimes performed with a vertical incision.

[@AzariahWolf]

He's right! Ain't no rule says a snake can't be an empyrean!

[@CoperliteConsumer]

It all makes sense, god skin, snakes shed their skin, they likley started by using her skins...

[@Rose_in_Blue]

Coming back here to say I'm disappointed in the lack of people drawing the connection between "the abyssal serpent, shorn of light" and the events of the story trailer. To have been shorn means someone decided to shear you, harvest you, of something. The serpent was harvested of light, just like Marika did to the something (which is likely the serpent) in the trailer. DLC Spoilers below. So the same serpent that was used by Marika to ascend ended up within Messmer. My understanding of why this happened comes from the rite of the Gate of Divinity; a lord and a lord's vessel are required. For the serpent to have inhabited Messmer, I think it was present within his father. Radagon, who would seem the most likely candidate for Messmer's father, was the vessel and Marika's actual first lord was the serpent whose light was used in the rite of ascension. When Messmer was conceived the serpent went on to him, leaving Radagon and revealing the opportunity for Marika to eventually seal away the serpent within her firstborn son.

[@da-rj5cs]

Of COURSE it’s an eye that’s where all runes are kept dude is a legend

[@chrisl8787]

The biolizard boss track during the intro is inspired.

[@timdiggity]

Hopefully we can go Super Sonic in the boss fight against the Gloam Eyed Queen

[@TheVinster420]

This level of cooking belongs in a 3 star Michelin restaurant

[@Aanderan]

given the more info we've been given on messmer; maybe the brother and sister received aspects of the serpent in a similar fashion as Morgott and Mohg inheriting their curses from seemingly past ages. Messmer explicitly getting actual snakes and an abyssal flame that eats away at him You could even take the "affair" very literally with this being how Messmer and Melina were conceived. Said thing looks awfully like a mollusc with it's pearl or certain genitalia lmao

[@mushroomy9899]

we know you have miyazaki, we’re willing to give into your demands.

[@kreadapelu8813]

I’ve been pointing at that thing and shouting Eye and being kicked in the sack since the release. I even gestured towards the living corpses of Godwyn.

[@tristanneal9552]

I genuinely really thought it was a vagina, but turning the image 90° and drawing out the rest of the head won me over.

[@JackisaMimic]

I really like the idea that the GEQ, or that this entity, is actually part of a large serpent. The symbolism of birthing is still present, but we could extrapolate from it that perhaps the Golden Order was born from blasphemy, or deception. The deception angle is already present with the narration of the trailer, and serpents are seen as sly and deceptive creatures, so by putting the two together I think you may be onto something. Great video!

[@timdiggity]

Exactly! The womb/birth imagery still seems intentional, even if it ends up being an eye. Thanks for watching, Jack!

[@MC-Juggernaut]

Miyazaki about to put you in the evergoal if you keep this up

[@Longboiquik]

😂😂😂

[@thesilentabyss8563]

I though it was an eye too, didn't think about it being a snake though.

[@falgalhutkinsmarzcal3962]

Another connection between the GEQ and Snakes are that Snails are crepuscular in nature, coming out at twilight. Miyazaki designed the Snails as Snakes intentionally. If he had wanted the Snails to be actual Snails he would have had them designed as such. Snails are hermaphroditic (like Marika, and perhaps the GEQ is, too). Another interesting detail to note is the Imps in the catacombs are said to use "serpent-tongued" weapons in version 1.00. The more I think about it the more it seems like tge catacombs are essentially like snake tunnels through which a large snake might once have passed underground. What if the Imps originally served the GEQ, or the Ancient Serpent god? This might explain why there are so many Snails underground (in Nokstella and the Crystal Caves). Finally, there is a strange coincidence in Miquella's study room in Elphael that needs addressing. Some people have pointed out that there are pots and jars of plants in the study room and that these plants resemble the ones that are shown on the dlc art wherein Miquella is riding Torrent. But what nobody mentions are all of the SHELLS in his collection on the tables. There are snail shells, sea slug snails, spiral shells, oyster shells, and several other types of shells in his little compartment drawers. It seems an odd detail to have included.

[@BoodymeatJr]

You definitely cooking my guy. It could be that the “god skin” is actually the snakes discarded skin as it grows that they fashion into clothes in reverance to her appearance.

[@RyeBreadGangster]

Could be that the Gloam Eyed Queen was devoured / joined with a snake like Rykard

[@andrewvisser5409]

This theory and your other two videos that I immediately binged last night kept me thinking about it in my sleep and woke me up once 😂 you’re a genius bro

[@LePeppino]

I would just like to, once again, point out that I was subbed to this madman before he blew up lmao Seriously man, this is amazing and does indeed make alot of sense to me! Now we wait for Ziostorm's and Quelaag's reactions haha edit: oh yea and still 100 bonus points for being a Sonic OST enjoyer

[@myronhawk2854]

Maybe like how there were two trees, and two wars, (one of light, one of shadow), maybe the god devouring serpent is the opposite form of a god-birthing serpent.

[@shurley96]

Awesome analysis! I hope it turns out. Massive symbolism in the idea of a Woman, a Snake and a Tree at the beginning of creation - having seen how fromsoft have drawn on real-life religion and myth, this fits almost too well.

[@kayhaich]

Yggistral ;)

[@Ontos99]

'Is she Starscourge Radahn for some reason?'. I spilled my water on my lap. thanks Tim

[@FlyingFox86]

Could the Gloam Eyed Queen have been the god to Placidusax's Elden Lord? It makes a little more sense for a giant snake to choose a dragon as a consort, rather than a humanoid choosing a dragon. Also, you find destined death (which was taken from the GEQ) in Farum Azula.

[@BudravenOG]

I feel like the golden threads Marika pulls are like the threads of fate from many mythologies. Needles and thread and weaving all seem to have a symbolic place in this story. Like The godskin stitcher, the tailoring tools and sewing needles both regular and golden, Miquella's needle, The unalloyed gold needle. Pest "threads", Godskin swaddling cloth and Lord of Blood's favor an oath-cloth.

[@ostravamasterson4178]

Fucking finally someone realized this, now please explain to the rest of the humans that Fia is FortIssAx, We kill her soul (lichdragon) leaving only her body to replicate what happened to Godwyn, soulless lovers in body only rhymes

[@timdiggity]

Hmmmmm that’s actually a damn good theory. I hope we get more lore in the DLC about how the dragons could turn into humans

[@kayhaich]

Exactly, this is how dragons are humping with humans and making babies

[@matiasluukkanen7718]

Fia is a Tarnished from outside Lands Between. Fortissax tries to prevent Fia desecrating Godwyn further in dream. While we kill the dragon, he fails.

[@besterb14]

This is the Canon I totally subscribe to. Thanks for the great video!

[@A_Koenig]

Rmemeber the cinematic trailer that shows Godwyn being murdered with the cursemark of Death and something (the Rune of Death?) moving to his lifeless eye?

[@Destruxtionstyle]

If somehow both theories of Melina and the Snake are the GEQ, it would sorta explain why Melina’s right eye in the Frenzy ending is devoid of all light if the strands of Gold were pulled out of it don’t you think?

[@Cragdor47]

Although Seath the Scaless wasnt a snake, he did have pale white skin and was obsessed with Immortality (aka the rune of death in Elden Ring). So maybe the Gloam eyed Queen will drop us the Moonlight Greatsword :)

[@timdiggity]

Exactly! Definitely giving me Seath vibes. Also can’t help but notice a similarity to Priscilla as well. Priscilla wields a scythe(common symbol for Death), is an unwanted crossbreed child (likely of Seath), and she is said to be “the antithesis to life”. So, death. I think if the GEQ has a human form, there’s gonna be some Priscilla vibes

[@antoninodarioconti6347]

...so Messmer is speaking to Melina (Yes, I think Melina is in a way the GEQ) when he says "Mother, wouldst thou truly Lordship sanction, in one so bereft of light?". Because Melina helped the Tarnished through the game. That makes more sense than speaking to Marika. Because Marika is not really helping.

[@jacquesbonhomme8198]

You're probably right, and Melina is Messmer's sister. Too bad the DLC says NOTHING about the GEQ

[@TOUGHEYES]

Wait, it actually makes sense! She's in both of their eyes! In Messmer's right eye & Melina's left eye, traces of her power remain! Because they bring definitive powers of Death through different contexts & iterations. That's why his eye is sealed with a Soreseal, before a different means is employed for Melina, but hers only opens at the Frenzied Flame ending. Gloam Eyed Queen got back at Marika for killing her, by embedding herself into her lineage. Then other aspects of curses got in, such as Omen Horns, & then the Rot, & as with Miquella.... The ironic twist of another self, within himself, which he then, well, you know.....

[@joemac3738]

Love this idea!! Best theory yet, IMO!!!

[@ChurchAtNight]

Keanu Reeves: “Whoa.”

[@KaydeanRavenwood]

Not just a Snake. Remember Rya? Remember how she has...memory problems?

[@Longboiquik]

AWWWW SHEET TIMDIGGITY BACK AT IT AGAIN W THE WHITE VANS

[@JK_Scarlet]

It would be cool if we fought the gloam eyed queen snake and the serpent hunter has the same properties as the Rycard fight