The IDAHO 4 | PCA, White Elantra, 1122 King Road, Victims & Injuries | PART 2

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Lana Marie

Lana Marie

Күн бұрын

#idaho4 #bryankohberger #kayleegoncalves #xanakernodle #madisonmogen #ethanchapin #truecrime
Part 1: • The IDAHO 4 | Timeline...
Intro: 00:00 - 01:21
PCA & bodies on the SECOND floor: 01:21 - 07:08
PCA & bodies on the THIRD floor: 07:08 - 08:30
Possible target(s) & cars in the parking lot: 08:30 - 10:46
THE Elantra / AN Elantra: 10:46 - 14:07
Door Dash: 14:07 - 15:15
Defensive wounds & injuries: 15:15 - 17:32
The families & evaluating information: 17:32 - 21:17
13 minutes & (lack of) evidence: 21:17 - 23:37
Videos:
• Moscow Police Department Press Conference, 17.11.2022: • Moscow Police Departme...
• Latah County Coroner talks about the victims, 15.11.2022: • Raw | Latah County Cor...
• Moscow Police Chief James Fry Interview 12-8-22: • Moscow Police Chief Ja...
Articles, etc.:
• Kuula 3D model of 1122 King Rd.: kuula.co/post/NW9rR/collectio...
• The affidavit: www.documentcloud.org/documen...
• Xana’s injuries: www.foxnews.com/us/university...
• Forensic autopsy of sharp force injuries: emedicine.medscape.com/articl...
• Steve Goncalves on Kaylee’s injuries: www.fox5atlanta.com/news/idah...
• Kaylee and Xana’s injuries, reported by Steve Goncalves: www.oxygen.com/crime-news/ida...

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@shaycase1834
@shaycase1834 4 ай бұрын
You are the most logical person discussing this atrocity. I’m impressed
@sole__doubt
@sole__doubt 2 ай бұрын
This case has so many unanswered questions that it attracts conspiracy theories. At this point I doubt we'll ever know what actually happened that night.
@shaycase1834
@shaycase1834 2 ай бұрын
@@sole__doubt the trial should be somewhat enlightening
@sole__doubt
@sole__doubt 2 ай бұрын
@@shaycase1834 I just hope it doesnt confuse me even more. Im not certain of anything but the fact that 4 people were killed. Fascinating case for sure, I have a million questions.
@Susiehighschool
@Susiehighschool 4 ай бұрын
For someone not actively covering this case, you are freaking impressive!! I’ve been following it like a full time job since week 1 & your info so far has been 100%. The level of knowledge you have on this case is that of someone who’s been deep diving since day 1 as well! No biases or inferences of guilt on a specific person, I give you major respect for that. This case is not what the media or even police have been feeding us. Something(s) is verrry very off here!
@jeffgrayson7639
@jeffgrayson7639 4 ай бұрын
Its entirely possible that Ethan struggled with wounds crawled towards the door before bleeding out and dying.
@brindlebucker4741
@brindlebucker4741 4 ай бұрын
I didn't know a lot about this case, thanks for the videos. Looking forward to part 3
@toneski3033
@toneski3033 3 ай бұрын
Regarding the two mattresses....the one in the foreground at 6:32 with the visible staining appears to be a single size bed, as apparently from MM's room where her and KG were found. The mattress in the second truck is a larger size (queen?) and is likely from XK's room where her and EC were found. This particular mattress doesn't have noticeable staining so it seems more than likely that XK & EC were found on the floor of the bedroom.
@lawofficesofandrewdmyers
@lawofficesofandrewdmyers 4 ай бұрын
Awesome review. Good perspective, which we all need. More.
@deborahharris2962
@deborahharris2962 4 ай бұрын
Thank you. I'll look out for part 3.
@sole__doubt
@sole__doubt 2 ай бұрын
Really well done video. I really like how you broke everything down and made it easy to understand. Thats saying a lot with this confusing case. I also love how you say Hyundai. ;)
@KenKocur-xs4md
@KenKocur-xs4md 4 ай бұрын
Excellent keep up the good work! You are very interesting to listen to.
@oldworldchris4187
@oldworldchris4187 4 ай бұрын
Good content, you're paying attention to the case!
@silviin
@silviin 4 ай бұрын
All parents failed to ask the right questions and they all completely reject the idea that this could be a drug related crime... For them it's more important to portray their kids as angels which is their choice but it might lead to their kids never getting the justice they deserve... Bryan is not the guy in my opinion and I think they have nothing on him otherwise it would be public... Lastly I must say Bryan Kohberger's parents also fail to stand up for what's right... Covering their faces and hiding themselves instead of staying their son's innocence before trial...
@djjohnny5166
@djjohnny5166 3 ай бұрын
Excellent overview!
@joliebrown1511
@joliebrown1511 4 ай бұрын
Hi Lana I'm glad you're back with pt.2 let's get into to it, I've got my coffee. Keep up the good work.🎉🎉🎉 Jojo SC..
@shannonstirling1
@shannonstirling1 4 ай бұрын
Another great video! I really appreciate your intentional way of presenting the facts, as we know them via PCA. We'll done! Looking forward to your next post.
@shannonstirling1
@shannonstirling1 4 ай бұрын
*well done (stupid auto correct)
@tonystevenson26
@tonystevenson26 4 ай бұрын
Great job, but you mention the sheath being found BESIDE Mogen....later however, they said the sheath was found partially UNDER Mogen and BETWEEN a comforter....both cant be true....fishy fishy
@mountainguy7778
@mountainguy7778 4 ай бұрын
Very well done!
@toneski3033
@toneski3033 3 ай бұрын
I believe Frye didn't publicly expand the year of the Elantra on Dec. 7-8 because they already had their eyes on Kohberger and wanted him to think his 2015 was outside of their scope. And as for law enforcement referring to the car as "suspect vehicle 1" I believe that's just protocol even when it's just one vehicle. That way, if any additional vehicles are added to their case they simply go in numerical order with no need to amend the reports to add the #1 to the first suspect vehicle.
@jacquelinechellis4036
@jacquelinechellis4036 4 ай бұрын
Ethan could have been stabbed before Xanna and she may have tried to get away. He may have still been alive and struggled to help Xanna and fell before door while Xanna was being stabbed. Speculation. He was a threat to the killer being a healthy athletic man. Dont think he had any chance at all. Possibly multiple killers. If only one killer Ethan would be first with multiple killers say two then who knows but one killer really did alot of killing in a short time. Then the roomates didnt call 911 for 8 or 9 hours. Really weird.
@shaycase1834
@shaycase1834 4 ай бұрын
Sorry for another comment but I can’t wait til your part 3 comes out
@stevestevenson289
@stevestevenson289 4 ай бұрын
Very good👍
@Revolver1701
@Revolver1701 4 ай бұрын
I like that you cite sources.
@biancabluchel8795
@biancabluchel8795 4 ай бұрын
Excellent! Greetings from Germany.
@gabormeszar9743
@gabormeszar9743 4 ай бұрын
Just a friendly reminder from the future : Bryan was not in a suicidal mood when the cowboys visited him in jail. 😢
@Susiehighschool
@Susiehighschool 4 ай бұрын
Also I can see red stains on both mattresses. For some reason I’ve always pictured Maddie asleep on her stomach & the perp coming in quietly & getting her quick & quietly through the back (possibly neck if we assume which mattress was hers 🥺) We now know Kaylee was sitting up in the corner, also that she got trapped so she would have been at the top left of one of those or bottom right. I believe Maddie had a smaller bed. Idk if either had a headboard so I’m not sure whose white frame that is. On Ethan, we get the idea he was on the bed, but If you account what was dripping down that back wall, that would have been where the headboard of the bed would be or the floor beside it. The mattress would soak up most of it so it’s always been kind of confusing how with Ethan being on that side of the room but likely on the bed, how there’s still enough liquid to drip down the side of the house unless he was also hanging off, or it was caused by poor Xana laying on an uneven floor. I know this is morbid, not trying to be dark but these details give us insight to how things happened. As detectives say… the crime scene will speak to you if you pay attention. This has always made the mattresses/patters based on what we have been told more confusing to me I would be curious of other’s thoughts on which one was which & where the victims ended up. These poor babies
@Susiehighschool
@Susiehighschool 4 ай бұрын
15:17 also XK dad talked to her & she told him that she was home w E eating pizza watching movies at midnight. So it’s surprising she’d order more food
@tonystevenson26
@tonystevenson26 4 ай бұрын
But Funke has them at Sigma Chi till 1:45 !??
@truthxposed8975
@truthxposed8975 2 ай бұрын
If Ethan wasn't killed right away and he was severely/mortally injured and knocked out, he could have come too and had enough life left in him to try to crawl to the door, but he bled out by the time he reached it. This attack could have happened with Ethan in bed, and then drug himself off of it trying to make it to the door. That's more than likely the THUD weve been hearing so much about.
@sherrykrause3410
@sherrykrause3410 4 ай бұрын
Look at Green all smug in the background. Why is he even there?! This is a POLICE press conference. This entire crime is his doing and he had the bal_s to cry at the first press conference. All I could hear was his dry mouth and lips smacking into the microphone!
@tonystevenson26
@tonystevenson26 4 ай бұрын
He is sooo suspect
@darjasrpcic2955
@darjasrpcic2955 18 күн бұрын
Bravo Lana.❤
@johnburton4189
@johnburton4189 4 ай бұрын
I would speculate the reason Fry said they were looking for a 2011- 2013 on Dec 7th was to not tip Bryan off that they had his 2015 car and him on their Radar as early as Nov 29th.(Reg his car to Wa. Nov 18th). Also wasn't it Dec 7th that W.S.U. called Kohberger in again to see how the altercation between him and Professor Snyder was progressing. A little covert assurance nothing was out of the ordinary. Looking forward to his return after Christmas vacation. However wouldn't this have been a golden opportunity to collect some fresh DNA that would be needed to match a Buccal swab once the time came for one....Serve coffee, soda, water, or maybe some touch DNA going over some paper reports etc.... They definitely had his licence plate number as a reader board doesn't red flag unless it has been put into the national system...... Oh for those that don't know, Kohberger was fired via Zoom Dec 19th 2022.....Snyder- Kohberger altercation Sept 23,, Meeting to discuss altercation Oct 3,, Meeting to go over improvement plan Nov 2,, Dec 7th see above, Dec 13th, Reader board Loma Colorado, WA. Plate CFB 8708, 12 days after the Dec 7th meeting Kohberger was fired, Kohberger was at PA. home.
@keefjustkeith
@keefjustkeith 4 ай бұрын
Why even bring up the car at all if they already identified the Elantra by November 25th. ALSO Doesn't it make M9RE sense that if the door dash shows up at the same time Bryan is supposed to be entering the home - that Bryan is the DD driver? Where is the footage of both the dd driver's & BKs car entering the area and leaving it as well? Audio from Linda lane only picks up the 1 vehicle doing the multiple 3 point turns and then leaving the area - where's the audio of the other vehicle leaving the neighborhood then. There's audio & video of a big black truck leaving at a high rate of speed.
@tonystevenson26
@tonystevenson26 4 ай бұрын
Yeah, the invisible DD diver ! Mabe Payne threw that in as a redherring....there was no actual delivery !?
@Champ1up
@Champ1up 4 ай бұрын
💥Another hit!
@jackiec9285
@jackiec9285 4 ай бұрын
They think M&K were killed first, wouldn’t M&K’s dna be on E & Z if one perp and one weapon? Thanks for the explanation of the crime scene
@hotpiegravy2347
@hotpiegravy2347 4 ай бұрын
On another note, I love your accent.
@aidanhart9871
@aidanhart9871 4 ай бұрын
Just when I thought you couldnt get any better 😅😅😅 what a woman.
@ty9884
@ty9884 3 ай бұрын
I think Suspect Vehicle 1 had Pennsylvania plates, which do not include a required license plate on the front bumper. Suspect Vehicle 2 was the same car, only after BK changed to Washington license plate number CFB-8708, and a second plate is required on the front bumper in Washington. He put those on Dec. 5, 2022 after changing the registration on Nov. 18. I've never seen a detailed official explanation of this, but did deduce it and it makes sense. I don't know of any suspect vehicles higher than No. 2, although I have seen unofficial reports that Emma Bailey had a white Elantra, too. There was a wrecked Elantra found in Oregon that the Moscow PD quickly discounted as being attached to the crime (though it was registered to the owner of 1122 King Road.) Very confusing.
@pinspopbubbles
@pinspopbubbles 4 ай бұрын
@AnaPaula-cw7up
@AnaPaula-cw7up 4 ай бұрын
Lana if Ethan and Xana's location is as you described then how did the blood run down the outer wall? one of the two would have to be supported by the headboard of the bed. So either Ethan wasn't blocking the door or Xana couldn't be seen by the cop coming down the hall.
@LanaMarie
@LanaMarie 4 ай бұрын
Yep, that's exactly what i'm implying. My guess is that Ethan might have been on the bed and that's how the blood got to the outer wall. There's a true crime case, i don't remember which, but it was about a woman who was killed in her bed. There are crime scene photos of it; the mattress was soaked, but there was also a huge puddle of blood on the floor next to it. Depending on the position of the body, i think it wouldn't be impossible for someone to be on the bed, but also their blood to be seeping down to the floor / outer wall.
@AnaPaula-cw7up
@AnaPaula-cw7up 4 ай бұрын
I agree with you. It is difficult to unify what is described in the PCA and the external images showing the blood. In photos and videos (TikTok) of the room, it appears that the bed was against the wall where there was blood. Lots of questions in this case.@@LanaMarie
@nuca9087
@nuca9087 4 ай бұрын
hi did you watch netflix's new avatar series? i see all sorts of opinions about it on social media and i personally thought that all the costumes looked so... well like halloween costumes. they don't resemble a piece of clothing which has been worn out snd lived in, they're so saturated and unnatural even for a fantasy show. id love to know your opinions if you saw the show💛
@LanaMarie
@LanaMarie 4 ай бұрын
hey :) i haven't seen it, unfortunately, so i can't give my opinion. i do think i'm gonna talk about costumes at some point again on this channel. i've also been toying with the idea of making a second channel just for costume-related content (cosplay, fashion) and have this primary channel be more social-commentary oriented.
@nuca9087
@nuca9087 4 ай бұрын
@@LanaMarie its alright :)) i love your costume reviews sm💜 especially you roasting amazon's lotr
@NYmomAdrienne3915
@NYmomAdrienne3915 2 ай бұрын
The pictures were enhanced by an outside expert which limited the years of make of the Elantra in that time, eliminating some later years
@sherrykrause3410
@sherrykrause3410 4 ай бұрын
And the police never fixed the request to the public to expand the car search to 2011-2016!?
@truthryder8947
@truthryder8947 4 ай бұрын
Imo, one of the attackers had to of left from Xana's bedroom window. That's why the ladder is propped up against the ledge outside of her window. Just my opinion.
@sherrykrause3410
@sherrykrause3410 4 ай бұрын
I’m still questioning whether or not Brent Kopacka is really dead. His online obituary on Legacy i read a message that also could have been faked and it was a good yore from “Emma Bailey” stating how much she’ll miss coming by his place with all those pizzas (or some type of food). Indicating she was possibly the Door Dash driver.
@tonystevenson26
@tonystevenson26 4 ай бұрын
Emma ain't good for nothing except delivering drugs...
@sherrykrause3410
@sherrykrause3410 4 ай бұрын
There is a recording (JLR) of a girl asking two Jack in the Box employees if they knew the Door Dash driver’s name. And they did not but they replied that the driver was a female with dark hair.
@1allstarman
@1allstarman 4 ай бұрын
It seems the killer(s) knew who was in what rooms . He passed by the room on the first floor to continue up the stairs . For the murders to hapopen in such a short time ( i heard about ten minutes ) they must have known who they were looking for and where they were . Unless it was just random homicide, but then why not check to see who was in the first room you passed by ?
@DanaPecoraro
@DanaPecoraro 21 күн бұрын
I thought I read that BK drove a sonata?
@Sunflower57-n6t
@Sunflower57-n6t 2 ай бұрын
I wonder if Eathan and Xanna were just in the wrong place at the wrong time bc I think all the chaos woke them up and that made them target I think it was the girls that was the target every one knew they would be together
@tee-boppin_em8147
@tee-boppin_em8147 4 ай бұрын
The Hyundai Elantra's from 12 to 16 or this practically the samething.... You sure Ethan and Zana were by the door??? Because in the crime scene photos you can see blood seeping out from the inside in the location where Zana's headboard to her bed would be...
@shishymishy
@shishymishy 2 ай бұрын
Ethan could've been stabbed on the bed then gotten up and tried to close the door after the perp left. Then he passed away by the door while closed. I've seen many videos of people getting stabbed and they keep walking/being active for a while, just to succumb to blood loss after a bit.
@bradharris7797
@bradharris7797 4 ай бұрын
DM AND BF ARE INVOLVED AND KNOW A LOT MORE!!! BOTH SHOULD BE IN JAIL
@rodgers1161
@rodgers1161 4 ай бұрын
I think investigation as a whole is a joke and give LE as a whole a grade of F. As far as secrecy and cover up which in turn speaks corruption.. I give a grade of B, it seems the only proficient thing LE fairly good at is this and must have some practice at the former?
@anon-lo6ik
@anon-lo6ik 4 ай бұрын
give me your interpretation of this part of a sentence in ID4 PCA, assuming no spelling errors: "video of a suspect video", which I believe is found where LE was describing what time the takings happened, maybe, pg. 6? I'm assuming PCA may, but rarely, contain permittable lies, and hearsay is permitted for probable cause processes. so, creative writing is part of the skill set of crafting a PCA Thx in advance You provide very valuable content.
@tedmatheny7784
@tedmatheny7784 4 ай бұрын
They went a bit further than creative writing.
@anon-lo6ik
@anon-lo6ik 4 ай бұрын
@@tedmatheny7784 They have video of a suspect?
@tedmatheny7784
@tedmatheny7784 4 ай бұрын
@@anon-lo6ik not likely, but they know who it was & why, & they planted evidence.
@anon-lo6ik
@anon-lo6ik 4 ай бұрын
​@@tedmatheny7784 its catholic education from top to bottom then. same at it ever was: its not the words that count, but the rulers who entertain/slap, cut/edit them onto paper/screens. we people are merely the screen or paper being projected upon. Where did BK find his record; while driving around, sometimes at night? "where was my record?", bk quizzed in his youth and throughout his days. by the way, bk, what were you driving, anyway? the death penalty debate, he snarkily sang.
@tedmatheny7784
@tedmatheny7784 4 ай бұрын
@@anon-lo6ik oh, he unalived 2 of them. and he was unmasked in a way that would require a fisa warrant, and fisa warrants are only legal on foreigners, not american citizens,
@SteveReneMedia
@SteveReneMedia 4 ай бұрын
❤❤ You did this so well. It's absolutely beyond belief how many other suspect DNAs and vehicles have been ignored after all the moms and Emm / Deme drug odose arrests were suddenly dismissed. Then the Door dash no 911 call? Really? I truly believe those murdered were witnessed by the surviving occupants / DRUG TRUCK student yelling Xana Xana who had to have heard and seen the crime in progress. 400 witnesses are being called by defense and maybe from the time the victims must have needed help from the attackers. Not just one attacker. Sorry if all the wounds don't match the knife from a sheath found what weapons were used? Maybe like a machete, axe or golf club causing sharp force injuries. Again, all completely ignored by PD. 😮😮
@tonypena1
@tonypena1 4 ай бұрын
They HJ climbed the ladder to enter Xana’s room
@shaycase1834
@shaycase1834 4 ай бұрын
Hopefully the jurors they pick are as analytical as you are.
@tonystevenson26
@tonystevenson26 4 ай бұрын
Jury selection in Latah has me worried !
@InconitoBandito
@InconitoBandito 4 ай бұрын
His words were, “It appeared, “ as in it wasn't there when ISP went amd checked and the other officers before I arrived 4 hours late. But I noticed it unlike anyone else with my two years being a cop ans never having been in a crime scene like this. Hahaha, Payne and Blaker have almost the same statements. It's a copy-and-paste That sheath is a red herring. It's well known the snap was made of brass, and DNA doesn't last longer than 12 hours; the fact there were 20 skin cells makes that likely to vanish sooner, but let's say 12 hours, well if it wasn't found till 430ish then that's 12 hours from when they want to say ( after they said 2 or 3 ) that sheath wasn't sent to the lab that night. I doubt it was tested on Monday, so how was there any sample left?? Ortham has said twice they can only run and get results around 12 weeks, but they did the HBO special in 6-8, so eight weeks. How did they get a profile so fast for this case? The car looping was a Crysler 300; the other cars were a Ford and an Elantra - those only once passed There was at 430 an f250 with a turbo that went to 1122, and it's on LL, you can here Murphy barking and the truck back up, doors open It was brought up many months ago, but finally, someone with an audience brought it up, and played the footage. It's crystal clear That when the house door was left open, Murphy was taken or left to run loose
@NYmomAdrienne3915
@NYmomAdrienne3915 2 ай бұрын
I was just wondering about your experience and education in forensic science, investigative methodology, victimology and general crime scene analysis. Did you live in a Greek party house off campus to understand the things you may get used to and lifestyle and noise tolerance?
@andresmartinez3716
@andresmartinez3716 4 ай бұрын
same old
@Susiehighschool
@Susiehighschool 4 ай бұрын
6:31 anybody else notice the gallon of red liquid by the blue cooler behind the truck? That wouldn’t be a color of kool aid mix I’d take with me on that day… any chance it’s not kool aid?
@user-bw1vs9us9y
@user-bw1vs9us9y 4 ай бұрын
You are right. Where is the DNA. He must have been dripping with blood. Where is it? The eye witness does not say he was carrying a knife. Where is it? This baffles me.
@tomvan6008
@tomvan6008 4 ай бұрын
Even if you take Bryan out of the picture how did multiple people not leave any evidence behind. Multiple people would increase the odds somebody stepped in blood etc.
@tonystevenson26
@tonystevenson26 4 ай бұрын
What blew my mind was even the dogs couldn't pick up a trail !
@tedmatheny7784
@tedmatheny7784 4 ай бұрын
I know it's fun, but I wouldn't put too much thought into it. You haven't been given the truth and they'll never let it out, so any theories you make are based upon lies. I promise you.
@MikeRyan-uz9pw
@MikeRyan-uz9pw 4 ай бұрын
Ethan might of did it and took his own life we don't know what exactly happened as of the actual stabbings were and how many times..he could of did it and took his life no disrespect just looking for justice
@jorudin1680
@jorudin1680 3 ай бұрын
Hi Lana, is there a way to contact you outside YT ? I am not very SocialMedia savvy. The above @..1680 is not valid.
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