The Key to Peace With Russia

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In Exodus Part 5, Jordan and the round table discuss chapters nine through twelve. The key themes discussed are free will, tyranny, and sacrifice. They address the following current events: Tyranny (Stalin, Jong-Un, Putin and Hitler), having children in today's climate, and the COVID-19 lockdowns.
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[@carlosmarcelovellosowendt4598]

Actually, western leaders have met him many times. You can google how many meetings Merkel and Macron had with Putin. He was the one who decided to get far from others. The last time Macron visited the Kremlin, in February 7, Putin has put him in the other side of a long table.

[@parabellum2674]

But as often as western leaders with each other?

[@baradin_aoe9991]

@@parabellum2674 Why would they? There are far more western leaders and only one russia. From my informational background there is more communication between Russian and Germany at the moment than between Germany and nearly ANY other state, although France and Poland are viewed as the most important countries and neighbors of Germany in the german political class.

[@logicaredux5205]

Why should Putin have sat near them or even paid any attention to them at all? The leaders of the West are narcissistic Satanic liars. One does share a meal let alone solemnize a treaty or plan with such? What fellowship can one have with such?

[@baradin_aoe9991]

@Manta Ray That is not what she said but drawn out of context of what she actually said. Please watch the whole thing. As I am German I can guarantee you that the information you have been given is incorrect.

[@baradin_aoe9991]

@Manta Ray well we are not going to convince each other. But here is something to think about: since 8 years russian troops stand in Ukraine and annexing territory (like crimea) and they expected to win that battle in 5 days or so. So how much of a threat to attack russia was there planned. She said it was there to give Ukraine time. But she never said anything of "attacking". So yeah we are not going to convince one another. So let's leave it be. Merry Christmas and a happy new year I wish you.

[@CharlesDickens111]

"So you're saying Putin wouldn't have invaded if Biden offered him a Big Mac?" ~ Cathy Newman

[@alanbrown214]

Maybe some caviar and a glass of champagne.

[@kennywong489]

@Manta Ray Russia doesn't care. They have nuclear weapons. Bases are approved by allied countries by the way, for their own security against China and Russia. In this world we have to choose a better overlord.

[@kennywong489]

@Manta Ray russophiles in my most humble opinion are dumber than russophobes... To think that one could never go the amok mode is against reality. Many people in our world sometimes give in to emotions and go all out. Why can't he?

[@nerzhul2455]

@@kennywong489 I blame russophiles for idealising Putin. Putin shouldn't wait 8 years to do something. If i was on his place, "SMO" would be run straight in 2014-15. With all the most advanced 'toys' and with very little mercy But I respect them and praise russian army, in their place USA would carpet whole country and miIIions would perish. It shows orthodox christianity soul still has empathy to previous brotherly nation

[@Sherlock245]

Putin would invade cause he did not want a big mac he wanted a quarter of your big mac meal including his.

[@michaelmcguire382]

My mother always told us, "The family that eats together stays together." Maybe the same is true for the world.

[@eqramer]

are you suggesting that Churchill should have been dining with Hitler to save humanity? if not, than I see no reason why now Western leaders should dine with Putin.

[@david97GP]

My mom would not do this and she's been divorced 3 times

[@ruthie8785]

Not when the guy you are eating with is literally poisoning everyone he doesn’t like.

[@simonmaskell9431]

Peterson would have been a big supporter of Chamberlain's appeasement back in the day. This is not a good solution.

[@internuts11]

Trump sat down with everyone and was ridiculed for it

[@Sherlock245]

Hitler sat down with everyone and demanded they listen or face horrible outcomes.

[@7thheaven-finalfantasy-hip717]

Facts

[@Phasma6969]

Liberal axioms are unwavering and impenetrable.

[@runswithbears3517]

Only by mouthbreathers. Everyone with a shred of sense understood that despite the man's questionable ways, that was a good thing.

[@jairoquintanilla9357]

You just said it, the way it should be mentioned!

[@opinion4755]

Peterson knows so little about the real Russia and probably international affairs he definitely has very little to bring to table on this issue. Some humility and would be nice from the good doctor in this regard.

[@opinion4755]

@@kd4315 I follow Peterson closely. But also I am from former Warsaw pact state and also a foreign affairs professional. What Peterson has said about the matter so far is a irresponsible use of his influence. I am confident he is out of his depth. Unfortunately he is not the only westerner center/center right thinker who is reflexively contrarian on Ukraine matter.

[@jamesm.9285]

You make an important point, no doubt. Yet it is no secret that Trump make the biggest steps towards peace with Russia that the Wedt has seen in a long time, and yes, he sat down and had a meal with the guy!

[@opinion4755]

@@jamesm.9285 in some way Biden is the ideal leader for this crisis because he is a Cold war era politician on the other hand maybe a trumplike figure or Trump himself could have prevented any military action with no damage to European security.

[@opinion4755]

there is a wonderful brand new 7 episode BBC documentary available on youtube called “Traumazone”. For those who haven’t had any dealings with modern Russia and Russians it can provide some insight.

[@opinion4755]

@@kd4315 not if you are Ukrainian with last 100 years with Russians doing what they did and if you’re USA that needs an old enemy vanquished or at least neutralized for very little inwestment so you can focus elsewhere.

[@birter3114]

This title is not clickbait but an embarrassment. If you name a video The Key to Peace With Russia and then talk 7 minutes about the importance of common dinner (which btw is something I'd quite agree with) it seems you're taking the issue way too... ivory-tower-ly.

[@pacifictv7214]

Maybe you should have dinner with the person who posted this video so you guys can have peace instead of warring with him

[@TheLifeOfKane]

Nah, i think making a comment is all he deserves.

[@Andriy_322]

Polititians had talks with putin... Zelensky had Minsk agreements with him before a full-scale war... But as Golda Meir said “You cannot negotiate peace with someone who has come to kill you.” Russia brought to life not only Peterson's favorite Dostoevsky, but also Stalin...

[@aj9969]

I assume you missed the admission by Angela Merkel that the Minsk agreements was merely a stalling tactic to arm ukraine.. and Ukraine kept shelling donbas for 8 years while the Minsk agreements were in effect.

[@Andriy_322]

@@aj9969 Interesting if Moscow will mobilize also russian trolls and when? Russians shelled Mariupolis (that is a part of Donbass) for 8 months and killed 100 000 civilians...

[@aj9969]

@@Andriy_322 Russia hasn't even mobilized all its military reserves.. unlike ukraine who are putting 16 year olds in the frontline..

[@michaldemkowicz4536]

When I hear it suggested that that sharing a meal with Putin may have prevented Russia's belligerence, I am reminded of the pernicious naïveté of the early Wilson administration, which thought that tensions in pre-WWI Europe could be defused through polite conversation.

[@martynas5757]

Someone with actual brain, bravo

[@Tanmexam27]

Agreed!

[@user-dj2pq8xp6k]

It never works

[@SarahMc585]

Very informative. We never ate at the dinner table growing up, but my husbands family did. Now its a struggle for me to eat at the table but my husband always helps and reminds me to eat at the table. my uncle, a single father, made his boys eat at the table too. His boys really respected their father, God rest his soul. I will try harder for my husband, my uncle, and for God to eat at the table with my family.

[@RapturereadyforJesus]

After leaving home I never ate at a table with my children. While growing up, dinner time at my house was very painful due to my narc dad. Many mean words were spoken out of his mouth.

[@SarahMc585]

@@RapturereadyforJesus im sorry. that must have been very tense for you and your family.

[@RapturereadyforJesus]

@@SarahMc585 thank you for your kind reply!

[@alanbrown214]

My kids say we are the only family in their groups that eat together. We are known as “ The family that eats together”. I loved Dennis Prager’s comment about his dad calling bullxxx on him. My dad used to say, “ If all your friends jumped in the river, would you follow?” My mom explained that a rhetorical question is one where you don’t expect an answer.

[@hubrisnaut]

I don't understand this nostalgia around being called stupid by your father. My father would never say anything like that to me. He knew I wasn't going to do something incredibly stupid. We jumped in rivers all the time, sometimes of bridges. I'll tell you why. He brought me along with him wherever he could from the time I was born and I knew that. My father was a down to earth brilliant man that built something from nothing for us.

[@ruthie8785]

What banal advice. Good job?

[@guitarguru6916]

GW Bush met and talked with Putin constantly, said he looked into his eyes and saw his soul. That didn’t stop him from invading Georgia around that time. Obama sat and talked with Putin. That didn’t stop him for annexing Crimea and invading the Donbas in 2014. That didn’t stop him from committing the atrocities of the current war in Ukraine. What a deeply naïve, glib, and stupid conversation this is.

[@SoloMotivation]

To anyone who find this comment, YOU ARE AN IMPORTANT PERSON AND I LOVE YOU

[@suggadeg]

I promise you, I’m not

[@noobauditor2898]

Right back at you, take care of yourself 👍

[@ihavetubes]

😮

[@FewNewReasonss]

No I'm not, you're delusional.

[@Miriam-yx3wr]

😂

[@ExVeritateLibertas]

So, we didn't sing kumbaya enough with Putin or nourish his delusions of grandeur or make his ego feel "respected" enough; therefore we -- not he -- are to blame that he's raining terror down on 40 million people. Thanks once again, Dr. Peterson, for the precious insight. PS: I'm pretty sure just about every western leader over the past 20 years has sat down to dinner with Putin. Doesn't seem to have helped.

[@Tanmexam27]

And I was reading recently that Zelenskyy, Macron (and I think Merkel?) all sat down with Putin in Paris in 2019 for negotiations. The description of the meeting shows that Putin isn’t interested in all these great connections that the panel above is talking about. The following meeting was cancelled in 2020 because of Covid. And later the Kremlin refused to meet Zelenskyy in Donbas for further conversations. In spring 2021, the Kremlin announced negotiations will only be made after a “regime change” in Kyiv

[@ExVeritateLibertas]

@@Tanmexam27 Right. Peterson needs to stick to psychology.

[@arwenstrong2818]

​@@Tanmexam27 The West has been trying to placate him since G.W. Bush

[@Sorrowblast]

what you did though is threaten Motherland. Now reap what you've sown, with okrainians as collateral.

[@stevenicol1]

​@@Sorrowblastno one threatened Russia. More bollox

[@mobilesam7i]

Putin attacked Ukraine in 2014, everyone was eating with him at the same table. Also attacked Georgia (country) also was having dinners with leaders of developed world

[@wyqtor]

@Smart Kot At least they didn't bludgeon anyone to death on camera, like your Wagner boys - which BTW also have Nazi tattoos!

[@zachtbh]

Maybe that's another reason why in psalms it says the Lord prepares a feast of table in the presence of my enemies..

[@Sherlock245]

When we are invited to someone’s house for dinner, we cannot open the host’s refrigerator and grab whatever we want to eat. We depend on the host to place dinner on the table for us. We wait to be offered food and drink. Thus, the statement, “You prepare a table before me,” highlights David’s dependence on God.

[@ruthie8785]

Haha imagine believing in god.

[@andreirosu807]

So basically the victims are at fault for not understanding the feelings of the agressor. Really ?

[@Bubble998Grunge]

@@demonlemon6454 The aggressor, the side that invaded another country, is the aggressor

[@BadEnglishDan]

My comment got delleted... After so many dths, you ask Why nobody sat with him? Why should we speak and eat with tersts? Can you imagine asking americans to sit and eat with Osm after nine elvn? And by the way we did. We where speaking with him directly, in the same room, and he called a west - a modern devil

[@savanar2008]

Agree. Many people forget how much visits were payed to putin just before full scale war. And a fact, that putin and Zelensky have met in person.

[@georgeshomodi3498]

Macron had been going to Russian FOR MONTHS. Same for Scholz. Jewish shill here trying to sound smart, as always

[@user-yc5um2pl5v]

@@savanar2008 The problem is, putin wasn't given a choice. All those meeting were only to inform him that the decision has been made and he were only to toe the line that was drawn for him. That he freaked out was only too expected.

[@thesunisup_]

@@user-yc5um2pl5v cringe

[@andriykovach2736]

No matter how much I admire the books of JP and generally what he says but politics is just damn not his area of expertise and some things he says is outright nonsense. Putin WAS VISITED by european politics, also after war broke out, - by Israeli Prime Minister Naftali Bennett in March 2022 and Austria's chancellor Nehammer in April 2022. From what I hear russians speak on TV, in their Federal Assembly and just from personal communication, this nation has gone collectively nuts! They will not stop unless somebody stops them.

[@bush_boi_bass_bone]

I didn’t think my most replayed moment would be Denis saying “coffee,” but here we are

[@czwartek565]

,,If you can't say to someone go to hell, then you can't negotiate." Jordan Peterson They can't say it. Same as most politicians.

[@nickdesanto6119]

"recognition of common humanity" tell that to the Ukrainian people he butchered. The time for negotiation is over.

[@jeroendesterke9739]

A good friend of mine was a teacher at Charles Darwin School in Biggin Hill, UK and she guessed correctly by observing closely some of the more intelligent pupils in her class, that they were the ones whose family used to eat together. From a personal point of view, I can certainly recall that we - as a family - always breakfasted, lunched and dinnered together as a solid unit. From those times we always had good conversations which 'pitstop' meals would never offer.

[@worsethanjoerogan8061]

I stopped eating with family when I was studying hard and just snacked in my room while studying. It actually affected my mental health and family relationships so I stopped. Eating supper with family is when you catch up with them. Do not ignore it

[@TheMonkeyking555]

If only British and French politicians had more meals with Hitler prior to 1939. Maybe more appeasement could have dissuaded Hitler from invading Poland.

[@kristoffergrdem7602]

It might be too big to call a single meal, and not a meal with Hitler but in general most peoples conclude that the way Germany was treated after ww l, led to ww ll. So may be it would have been best in 1920 to not put The German people Into this desperate situation. I dont see exactly how this is paralell to what happened in Ukraina.

[@TheMonkeyking555]

@@smartkot2875 WW2 only began because Stalin and Hitler had agreed among themselves as to how to divide Poland and the Baltic states between themselves (Molotov-Ribbentrop pact). Stalin is thus essentially as guilty for starting the war as was Hitler. Though he perpetrated greater evils than Putin (at least so far), Stalin ended up far more powerful and victorious than Putin will ever be. I’m sure Stalin would have had a difficult time imagining facing a military defeat at the hands of Ukraine (though maybe Stalin’s humiliation at the hands of Finland comes close).

[@TheMonkeyking555]

@@smartkot2875 Are you trying to say that Poland started the war?

[@angrytedtalks]

I have 4 brothers and Sunday lunch was our must attend ritual meal, frequently with two grandmothers. The large round table in the dining room is almost 300 years old. Every important celebration was photographed at that table, with me for over 50 years. We are a very close and supportive family.

[@UrbanClimber]

Thats nice where are you from?

[@petergonzalez1719]

I've been telling my homie's the same thing. You see it with rival gangs.

[@Kyle_00]

Does it helps establish non violent communication between gangs??? I've never seen that before

[@petergonzalez1719]

@@Kyle_00 Common ground. One might be dating a family member. I've personally witnessed that. There's also competition about who can cook the best etc. This is why people should never mess with a Gangster's lady. It's a death sentence.

[@filadido7271]

Sometimes silence is worth thousands of words ...

[@anthonyglickman6245]

I remember in my late teens learning at a friend's house that his step-father would tolerate ZERO BS at the dinner table. VERY shaping. Food and conversation around the dinner table is a benchmark.

[@UkeTube]

We are reliving the 20th century. Had Ukraine been recognized and supported by the west in 1917, Ukrainians would have gleefully defeated the Bolsheviks. Allied with UK, USA, France, Poland, and the West, Ukraine would have been the eastern bulwark against Hitler's fascism. Our history of death and destruction from 1917-53 would have been likely unrecognizable. Disgusted by Canadians and Americans who have no clue about the enormous calamity unfolding in Ukraine and repercussions for the world. Fight the good fight people.

[@HorusHeresist]

So the Key to Peace With Russia is a meal with Putin? Bruh...

[@zackdelich]

Yes. Because he has nuclear weapons. Zelensky does not.

[@bunsandbutter600]

I never know eating together is a so serious thing.

[@immanuelcunt7296]

It's one of the most basic signs of trust and openness.

[@morganophelia5963]

say no to kuru lol

[@johnsmithers8913]

JP is friggin' amazing. Never thought about these things, but once he mentions them, it becomes obvious.

[@cristianfernandez1874]

Is great hearing it here, I'm working on that with my wife because we have problems to eat together in our tiny appartment but eating with my family growing up was so great, even thou as I became a late teenager was less common.

[@Sherlock245]

When we are invited to someone’s house for dinner, we cannot open the host’s refrigerator and grab whatever we want to eat. We depend on the host to place dinner on the table for us. We wait to be offered food and drink. Thus, the statement, “You prepare a table before me,” highlights David’s dependence on God.

[@jonadams8305]

My father required that we always eat at the table together for dinner. As my sister I played sports and got our first jobs and my father started working nights, it was difficult but if you were home and we were eating dinner, you sat at the table. When I meant my girlfriend, her family never ate at a table. She had a roommate when we first got together and when I ate with them, we cleaned off their small table and ate together. Now we have a house and we made sure there was a spot for a dinner table. Also, eating while sitting on a couch or whatever is just such a pain in the butt.

[@Jason_MotoPhotoAdventures]

Perhaps a meal is a commitment to a duration. Starbucks can be escaped easily. A meal at a restaurant implies a lengthy duration that must be filled with conversation and enjoyed/endured to the end.

[@Sherlock245]

When we are invited to someone’s house for dinner, we cannot open the host’s refrigerator and grab whatever we want to eat. We depend on the host to place dinner on the table for us. We wait to be offered food and drink. Thus, the statement, “You prepare a table before me,” highlights David’s dependence on God.

[@silverdr]

Some people who wanted to sit with him were seated at the other end of a seven(teen) metres long table. Some were told that he has no time to talk because he wants to play hockey, etc.

[@joeavent5554]

Growing up in the 70s, Dad forbidded answering the phone during dinner unless he was expecting an important call.

[@RapturereadyforJesus]

Same at my house.

[@pookatim]

Dr. Peterson, I love you but you couldn't be more wrong about Putin.

[@ericvosselmans5657]

You fell for the western MSM bs. Sad

[@rodneypayne4827]

@@ericvosselmans5657 most if not all normies have. They want to be told what to believe and what to think. The last 3 years have shown this.

[@temujin9773]

@@ericvosselmans5657 if the msm said eating dogshit was bad for you would you eat it?

[@ericvosselmans5657]

@@temujin9773 yours is a typical leftist childish ignorant comment. chapeau. your brothers and sisters will be proud

[@marcinczapski8547]

man i guess you grew up with putin then? idk how people can believe the western countries under usa are any close to being good or the lesser evil.

[@Oheng75]

The Ukrain war isn't a putin problem. It's a russia problem. The terror on Georgian and Chechnyian soil preceded putin. russia occupies territory of all its neighbours (Karelia, Kalinigrad, Kurelia, . They attacked Poland and Ukraine back around 1920. And let's not forget the occupation of the whole of Eastern Europe.

[@timo7714]

The premise that nobody talked to Putin or sat in a room with him is just not true. Since i am German lets just look at official state visits in Russia over the last years. Merkel visited Russia and Putin atleast 14 Times in official capacity (5 more times counting Medwedew and 2 of those visits happening in the "last 3 years". Scholz visited Putin once in the very limited amount of time that he was chancellor and the war hasnt started yet. Remember only counting German chancellors visiting Putin in Russia, no visits of Putin in Germany, no telephone calls and no meetings during conferences outside of Russia. Stop blaming the West

[@ashleygatewood]

Everything my family and friends get together to do includes eating or we feel cheated:) I wouldn't have thought others didn't do the same and it would seem strange to me to spend time with friends and there be no meals involved. It's communal. We even plan hikes into the mountains around eating, either in the woods with small portable fire stoves or pizza joints and buffets after the trek is complete. There's something about huddling around a fire, eating good food, sharing our thoughts, laughing, enjoying the company. Maybe that's why I always hated 'dinner dating' bc it seemed too intimate for me. Eating is something most enjoyed when you are at ease with no sense of anxiety, being in the presence of others you know, not quite as trusting as sleeping but vaguely reminiscent.

[@ashleygatewood]

Oh, and books that incorporate eating food, I love love love. A Winkle In Time, when I was a kid, was the first one I really noticed and it stuck with me. The most recent I can remember reading, A Secret History was always incorporating food among the characters other activities. I love writing food scenes in my own stories, perhaps for this reason.

[@danmannz]

The multi-billion dollar question is, Where is Bruce Gore in all of this? his work on Revelations is the equivalence to Jordan's work on Genesis and more. He has just finished up on Exodus! such a beautiful and masterful!

[@GusGusk3]

I've been watching the episodes, really interesting conversations, at the very least thought provoking, which is probably a good thing to be. I'm a little sad that Dr. Douglas Hedley left after the 4th episode. His comments and interjections were very interesting.

[@JoviBootlegs90]

Yeah I wouldn't mind if Denis left but no...he's too narcissistic and attention needing to leave

[@corvoattano9303]

@@JoviBootlegs90 could you elaborate? Why do you say that? I'm genuinely curious

[@Josh-sj9ig]

I loved Dr Douglas! A really hot piece of toast x

[@jdg7327]

I'm not a religious person nor I am very fond of blind faith. However I can say that having an hour or so of just solemnity and reflection and a shared lunch towards people I don't even know is so wonderful. I'm not a member of any church but I keep the Sabbath holy.

[@leospektor1]

"Sharing the dinner brings people together." Bring the dishes to this table!

[@ebb_]

Well said. Peterson is obviously one of the smartest

[@mariobaratti2985]

Keep your friends close but your enemies closer.

[@Sherlock245]

When we are invited to someone’s house for dinner, we cannot open the host’s refrigerator and grab whatever we want to eat. We depend on the host to place dinner on the table for us. We wait to be offered food and drink. Thus, the statement, “You prepare a table before me,” highlights David’s dependence on God.

[@Strusprawa]

Jordan Peterson continuously shows how little understands Russian strategic culture. Just stop and educate yourself mr Peterson - not from Dostoevsky books but from geostrategic books. Best choice to start is MacKinder

[@evelanpatton]

To you & yours, I hope you are releasing the old of this passing out of the darkest night of the year & identifying the light of the new year that you want to seek✨🎄Blessings become the light that is witnessed in faith before the righteous behold the shine. Happy holidays & a good New Year to you & yours. 💙

[@TheFlametalon]

You cannot negotiate with evil, they don't operate on the same level as normal people, they will always find a way to get rid of anyone in their way.

[@skeptical5982]

When you say "evil" I assume you're talking about the E.U and the U.S who started this whole thing?

[@josephtravers777]

'Normal' is a setting on a clothes dryer

[@aperta7525]

@@skeptical5982 No. The US did not. The pocket of tyrannical people in the US did. Most of us don't have a clue and those that do have a clue are forced to endure those that are doing this.

[@TheNamesFarquaad]

@@aperta7525 explain? What did they do?

[@aperta7525]

It's true, that's why you don't throw your pearls before swine nor dialogue with the Devil, but look at how popular Satanism and Paganism are these days...

[@Peter-Oak]

I wish there was the mentioned Jewish father at this table, so he could point out the painful naivety of what is being said. Evil, greedy, murderous men exist and they do what they do, no matter the number of polite dinners you'd offer them - they know they could take your house and offer you your own food, served by no-longer-your wife. Then smile at your suffering with true joy.

[@JonnyCrash]

I'm really glad Jonathan Pageau was a part of this discussion.

[@MoiLiberty]

Pageau brings a symbolic worldview to a group of Ph.D level scientific materialist who have not experienced a "symbolism happens" moment.

[@Sherlock245]

When we are invited to someone’s house for dinner, we cannot open the host’s refrigerator and grab whatever we want to eat. We depend on the host to place dinner on the table for us. We wait to be offered food and drink. Thus, the statement, “You prepare a table before me,” highlights David’s dependence on God.

[@victoriacarr6685]

Dr Peterson you are one of the most influential men of our time and could aid so many nations in trying to speak truth and negotiate. You are a champion of fairness.

[@LomuHabana]

Haha, if Peterson is the one to safe “many nations”, our world is doomed.

[@mikekavalerchik5226]

In Russian tradition ironically there is a saying. When I eat I'm Deaf and Mute. It's impolite to talk while eating

[@timmorin6657]

It's also unsafe, when you talk you inale and exale, if you have food in your mouth and throat at that moment you're basicaly asking to choke. Also grandma may beat you over the head for being impolite.

[@ebb_]

In Ghana too

[@voyager667]

It is not impolite in any way, at least for last few decades. This saying was used by my grandmother when I was a kid to shut me up when I was talking too much and not eating, but people usually speak a lot while eat.

[@mikekavalerchik5226]

@@voyager667 listen to your grandma you still talk too much

[@ebb_]

@@voyager667 😅😅

[@bigboy7927]

Have a meal with Putin may be your last meal considering his past behavior. 😵☠

[@TheSinzy]

Corrected: considering the behavior assigned to him by anti-Russian media.

[@Strusprawa]

@@TheSinzy those antirussian media are with us in room?

[@stevenicol1]

​@@TheSinzyhe's killed his dissidents all over the world.

[@TheSinzy]

@@stevenicol1 and you know that from where exactly? What are the names of those dissidents?...

[@user-pq9um6cm4g]

I m russian. I visit LA often. I talk to people. They see that i am normal, educated, not barbarian, open minded and want to find common ground. Unfortunately, it's almost impossible for russians to come to USA due to visa problems, price of dollars and bad English. Plus our propaganda from both sides wants us to be divided. Divide and conquer. But russians and Americans have much more in common, that they want us to think

[@blossomchinaka1167]

We always ate at the Table in My Family when we were much younger but changed somehow gradually as we grew older. I have just learned something very new, key, and critical for every Family to remain together even the Nation(s). Thank you, Sirs. I will take what I've learned on...

[@Stefan_1306]

How naive can Peterson be? Western politicians invited, sat down, and spoke with him regularly before the war. Obama and Putin even had lunch together in 2015 if that's worth noting. Politicians in my country Austria even joked with him, our previous foreign minister even invited Putin to her wedding and danced with him not long ago. None of it changed his authoritarian, imperialistic, and murderous intentions, as we've seen and as the Ukrainians now get to experience, and why would it? Would Stalin or Hitler have changed if someone had invited them more often to a dinner? Btw, Trump told Fox News in March that he would threaten to nuke Russia if he were still president instead of sitting down with Putin. Does Peterson even listen to his political hero?

[@siriusluminus]

The title is misleading. It should be about the meal as a religious and social ritual. Unless the message is actually meant to be that a meal could literally be the decisive factor for bringing peace to the conflict. Then it is just total nonsense!

[@elektrotehnik94]

The clickbait is absurd. Jordan's video titles are nowdays pandering to the algorithm, looking for cheap salience. Before, the titles were trying to summize a meaningful reason to watch any Jordan video - to humans. This reveals the deeper corruption of spirit & corporatization, that is seeping into Jordan's finished products - videos. There is still goodness & virtue here - there's just a bit less of it. ^^ ❤

[@hubrisnaut]

We know this about eating together. We had family dinners around the table at least 5 days a week when I was growing up in the 70s. Deeper, It is the coming together over something.

[@Sherlock245]

When we are invited to someone’s house for dinner, we cannot open the host’s refrigerator and grab whatever we want to eat. We depend on the host to place dinner on the table for us. We wait to be offered food and drink. Thus, the statement, “You prepare a table before me,” highlights David’s dependence on God.

[@hubrisnaut]

@@Sherlock245 I give carte blanch to my guests for the most part. it is the sharing of God's providence. I was bringing attention to the act of bringing attention to something. Over meals as spiritual in focus as an instance. I know animals do it. I don't think that diminishes it's nature. There is giving and kindness in it. Perhaps there is a knowing about reciprocity. I'm just exploring these things.

[@Sherlock245]

@@hubrisnaut but that is wrong understanding of scripture of that verse its not about being nice.

[@hubrisnaut]

@@Sherlock245 ok. what is it then? we will gather around your words

[@Sherlock245]

@@hubrisnaut not mine dear naut. Your not a Christian and your not interested so impossible to explain with your kind of behaviour.

[@mullichsir6568]

Fun to listen those conversations. Tho still a bit scary that reality could appear as putins police, knock at my door and try to bring me to die on Ukraine land, as second militarization wave would start. Thats special feeling, that some strong uncontrollable wind of history, could catch me out and unwillingly throw far away from my home, to die on foreign land. I read about that in Tolstoy or Vasily Grossman novels, but its feels abstract till day, that i for first time realize that im at risk to be forced to participate in war. But i guess, Ukrainian got that feeling since 24 feb, as Russian solders are aswell. We have great amount literature which describes that all, but why we still have go through it over and over again. Still, its just police, not a rocket that can fly right in my window. I still sit there in my Moscow apartments. And why that im here safely listening JP, instead of actively protesting and probably being jailed? Thats also the question i have to ask myself over and over

[@roronik2820]

Готовишь почву для карточки «хорошего русского»?

[@imnotanalien7839]

Wonderful thoughts on having a meal together.. and a very funny comment by Dr. Peterson about drinking a Starbucks coffee with a ‘potential’ friend 😂😂 (hint: no teeth required)

[@benjamMin278]

Starbucks helps the Poor without proper drinking water in certain African countries. 💧🌍 China has helped with investments and infrastructure there as have others. And there’s no wrong way to eat a Reese’s 🍫 or for that matter to “fix” or assuage societal ills in the world. Maybe with water and soil and fire. 🔥💧☃️ And possibly a Good Samaritan. 🐑🦁 🌙 I would suggest we all sit down to a meal “separately together” at the Festival Night of Lights. 💫💫💫 ❤💚❤️

[@PratapYogeshRaghuwanshi]

You don't need your teeth on coffee

[@Sherlock245]

When we are invited to someone’s house for dinner, we cannot open the host’s refrigerator and grab whatever we want to eat. We depend on the host to place dinner on the table for us. We wait to be offered food and drink. Thus, the statement, “You prepare a table before me,” highlights David’s dependence on God.

[@freesk8]

I'm an atheist and a huge Jordan Peterson fan. I make sure that my family of five eats together almost every night. It's true. Eating together is a very big thing.

[@Sherlock245]

When we are invited to someone’s house for dinner, we cannot open the host’s refrigerator and grab whatever we want to eat. We depend on the host to place dinner on the table for us. We wait to be offered food and drink. Thus, the statement, “You prepare a table before me,” highlights David’s dependence on God.

[@jeanladoire4141]

Macron went to see putin, putin made him sit down across a 10 meter long table lmao

[@andriykovach2736]

🤣👍

[@aguyinavan6087]

This is the problem. If you sit down at a table with bad actors all you get is more bad actors who want to sit at the table with the powerful guy. It's like when a dog barks. If you play with it when it barks you're going to get more barking. Do we want more barking in the form of threats of nuclear use?

[@joelsterling3735]

Somebody knew what they were doing because we have our big Christmas dinner today. This is right on topic.

[@benk.psy32]

The constant cutting-off is the one and only gripe I have with this whole series (which I waited for with immense anticipation for over two years). Each member of the panel (with the exception of Oz perhaps) cuts off the other repeatedly, making it unbearable at times. That being said, the amount of meaningful information residing in these videos is insurmountable. Calling it magnificent would be the understatement of the millennia.

[@irinaicious]

To disable Devils and Satans cancelling works the best. Evil needs to meditate to transform. When you emphasize with narcissists they feed on your empathy and suck life out of you. Isolate evil, let them eat each other.

[@Sherlock245]

When we are invited to someone’s house for dinner, we cannot open the host’s refrigerator and grab whatever we want to eat. We depend on the host to place dinner on the table for us. We wait to be offered food and drink. Thus, the statement, “You prepare a table before me,” highlights David’s dependence on God.

[@irinaicious]

@@Sherlock245 When you invite Evil for dinner it can eat you first or your kids like Putin eats Ukrainians.

[@IanGerritsen]

I can't be religious, but I 100% recognize something in the traditions (codified solutions to problems we've forgotten existed) we've lost was essential. I'd even resort to accepting an overtly religious government at this point to claw back a little of what we've lost before it's too late. Sadly the only things that seem to compete in ability to provide a higher moral power are nationalism and socialism, the first can be problematic and the second seems guaranteed to be ruinous.

[@Sherlock245]

When we are invited to someone’s house for dinner, we cannot open the host’s refrigerator and grab whatever we want to eat. We depend on the host to place dinner on the table for us. We wait to be offered food and drink. Thus, the statement, “You prepare a table before me,” highlights David’s dependence on God.

[@fugitive88888]

Well JP I have the most respect for you...but living being a russia neighbour I have doubt that you can have peace with Russia

[@NZobservatory]

“Everybody must surrender to Putin. It’s the only way to make me feel safe. I don’t care about anyone else.” - Jordan Peterson, 2022

[@wyqtor]

Pretty pathetic coming from a person not afraid to stand up to the SJW steamroller.

[@user-ou6ff8ms9w]

Could you sent a link on his words?

[@wyqtor]

@@user-ou6ff8ms9w Here you go: kzbin.infoaBvwLuBcqGc

[@edembadro888]

Jordan you are not Geopolitical!!!! You don’t know what you said about UKRAINE !!!!Peace with russia after they will lose!!!

[@I_Love_Boobs]

This helps explain to me some habits I have regarding eating. Thank You guy for this video!

[@Josh-sj9ig]

Is Jordy still on the benzos? Have a Maccy D's with a dictator? Mans gone bananas...

[@cezaryspiz3157]

Mr. Peterson is a Canadian psychologist, so when he talks about Canada or psychology, it's worth listening to him. But when he starts talking about Eastern Europe, you quickly notice that he has no idea what he's talking about.

[@laststand6420]

I have got to see this show. So many high powered minds discussing things that matter.

[@marchess7420]

absurd. chamberlain thought he had great personal interactions with Hitler.

[@ivannastepaniuk9706]

lol I can almost hear my teacher saying about this "discussion", "This is water! This is sand! There is no substance here! There is nothing here! It's empty words!" Also, it is not true that no one talked or dined with putin. Merkel and the likes almost kissed his shoes all the time trying to please him. Not standing up to a bully (and putin is way worse that just a bully) only encourages him. But I get it, now you have to say what you're paid to say.

[@virn333]

It's really sad what happened to Dr Peterson. He's crazy now

[@TheMuseumGuyIsrael]

The Hebrew word for "offering" or "sacrifice" is actually Korban (k.r.b.n.), meaning "something which brings closer". It's sharing in eating. Not giving something up

[@stern729]

Навалили огромное количество оружия для войны и думают теперь - "а как остановить войну с Россией?" Идиоты.

[@spookyt8692]

They talk about eating with a man that’s ordered many poisonings….

[@Joshualbatross]

Bring Pageau with you, they're both Orthodox!

[@keithadams1538]

Macron did meet up with Putin. Manchurian Macron had zero flexibility and here we are

[@PCH12r]

As Russians say about the war in Ukraine, to justify their actions - " не все однозначно" (not everything is obvious) - while committing genocide against "Khokhols". Good for you JP for reiterating Russian propaganda messages! Go ON! solution is following for you - either embrace Solzhenytsin's fascist ideas or educate yourself in history!

[@schroederscurrentevents3844]

Firstly, whether or not Russians say it, and Russians are not necessarily supporters or Putin and the war, do you believe that geopolitical negotiation is obvious?

[@PCH12r]

@@schroederscurrentevents3844 Agree with that. I generalize here, but if you ask majority of them who are inclined to be neutral would answer with that phrase. Or maybe "я политикой не интересуюсь".

[@PCH12r]

@@Warspite39 oh boy! How should they speak with each other. Evebody talked with him. Russians love open hearted talks (душевная беседа). That is why JP thinks everything can be settled with this type of conversation.... but Have you or JP heard phrase " России умом не понять" ...I guess not,..so Read Russian classics. 😁 He is utterly wrong about Russia.

[@alexsilent5603]

@@PCH12r I would say that we only defend ourselves against the aggression from USA and its Ukrainian puppet.

[@Sorrowblast]

No, we say objective truth: state-404(okraine) is an artifical, nazi state supported by west to threaten and destabilise us. Therefore, denazification and demilitarisation of said artifical, stillborn state is being executed. Incase you’re a liberal soyjack, I’d love to also point out that white-blue-white are the Color’s of OMON truck ;)

[@samwebber3109]

I just realized this is the first time I got clickbaited by jbps channel lolll putting the key to peace with russia in the title

[@johnnytass2111]

Peace with Russia. It's what's for dinner!

[@shamino1000]

Yeah, sure Jordan. That will fix it. Great insight.

[@JoeKawano]

The central ritual Christian ritual is actually basically the feast they were discussing from Exodus

[@raskolnikov1461]

Jordan should send Mr Putin an invitation. He is the biggest gangster of our history…

[@myleswelnetz6700]

Replace Putin with someone more benevolent, and I don’t care who.

[@montanagal6958]

It seemed strange the war started at the same time the trucker's protest was gaining attention. Who really knows what to think except nonstop wars since Vietnam seems wrong.

[@rihhard1072]

Im half Russian and live in the Baltics and I'm afraid you're dead wrong on why the date was chosen for the war. It was deliberate but had nothing to do with anything in the western cultural zeitgeist (Im still baffled people point to western culture as the reason for this war, its nonsense). Ukraine was planning to switch a bulk of their energy grid over to the EU from Russia on 24.02 and during this period of switch would be in an autonomous state of operation. Russia was hoping to exploit this fact as the chaos might grind electricity operations to a halt. Also consider that theres a huge celebration of Victory Day in Russia on the 9th of May, which would have been right on time with plans for Kremlin to parade their new 21st century victory.

[@andreilikayutub3496]

Nonstop wars is the natural state of nation states. When has there not been war?

[@Sherlock245]

When we are invited to someone’s house for dinner, we cannot open the host’s refrigerator and grab whatever we want to eat. We depend on the host to place dinner on the table for us. We wait to be offered food and drink. Thus, the statement, “You prepare a table before me,” highlights David’s dependence on God.

[@Laotzu.Goldbug]

The key to piece is that there will be no peace because this is not a dispute, it is an existential struggle. regardless of what you think about the morality of one side of the other, the practical facts are that a Hegemon never brooks the existence of a rival castle. One or the other will be destroyed, no less inevitably than two species feeling the same ecological niche will never just "get along". America and its global system is the world hegemon. Russia, as the Soviet union, lost the cold war, which was an existential struggle. In every other instance of this throughout human history the losing side was dissolved, at least as a competitive power, by the winner. we can make the case that because of nuclear weapons this process has been delayed by 30 years, but as the old saying goes "you can do everything with a bayonet except sit on it", and ultimately that bill will have to come do. Russia, in terms of the geopolitical entity that we understand it as today, is very near its end; not because of anything anyone else is doing to it, but because of what it has done to its own society over the last century (demographic, social, and political suicide). Whether it takes others with it or not is the open question.

[@jonscotty3647]

Awesome discussion 😇

[@thefountainhead6175]

Parenting has been sliding down,down for many,many year's, it's a real saddness & unpleasent...

[@gdl-nik]

I have no respect for this human being. He was talking about russia and putin in positive ways just to feed his ego or for rusiian money

[@reblokha]

I'd call this Stockholm syndrome & Messiah complex.

[@pavelpatapau4653]

Jordan, you need to do basic preparing, before you actually said something so stupid like "how often people try to sit down with Putin in the last 3 years"

[@dmytrorastorguev8131]

Think about it I invite you people who sit at this table to come to Ukraine in Kiev, perhaps no rockets will fly around during your visit. Come and share a meal with me. Im a common Ukrainan. Not a celebrity nor a polititian. Id like you all to see what is happeing here and try to feel common people not what you see on media or news articles. You might draw some conclusions during a visit and may be even change your mind in some sence. What you talk about in this bit is rational. I agree with most. But I feel you're quite distant from reality talking about what's happeing from you positions. Im not trying to convice you in any way. Im just a bit sceptic on how easy you think about peoole who is to blame in whats going on.

[@Dimka43]

Out of all the people Jordan always talked in his speeches about how the Soviets killed 20 to 50 million people during Stalin's regime and you have a guy that's following Stalin's footsteps 100%. It's sad to see you flip flop like that.. listening to this is like going to my mechanic for dental advice, you're actually good at what you do stick to your profession cuz you make people doubt the 7 years of listening to your work..,

[@mizninvictor2189]

WTF should we sit down with a BLOODTHIRSTY MONSTER???

[@andersborgius9315]

A long time fan and having eternal gratitude for helping me to changing my life. I’m a musician, writer and producer with some note after 30 years in this business from Sweden. And after listening to you’re programming/talks production online I’ve always wondered about who in gods name are in charge of your audio? This particular segment, as wonderfull as it is, is ridicoulsly pumped up with all kinds of compressors and limiters on the audio that makes the whole production seem unnecessarily invasive and not at all a calm “table talk”. Of course adapting to all of our phones and tablets but this is just to much. And it’s not good enough for the quality contend you deliver. So that’s my comment on this talk. Other then that, nothing but respect and love for you. /A

[@awesomeplay8076]

You people understand nothing about russia and putin. Don't get me wrong, I like and respect Peterson's work and himself. I am Ukrainian, I have been in Ukraine since the beginning of war. You do not have peace with hitler-like person on his conditions. But we shall have peace. When Ukraine drives the last invader off of its land. And than there will be slow process of healing of our nation.

[@InsaneAI_UA]

200 000 killed. Let's eat. I can't simply follow him. I had so much respect for Mr. Peterson yet this is delusional.

[@miraculixxs]

Grown men totally agreeing that eating is key. Duh