THE KISSING BOOTH 2 Is The Worst Netflix Teen Romcom I've Ever Seen | Cynical Reviews

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[@mr.sandman3207]

there gonna be another next year I want to kill myself

[@victormanuel6231]

Hiiiii

[@PhoenixWrites2309]

I really like the "hey subscribers, I put myself through this shit for you, so watch an add and let me at least get paid for destroying my soul" add format

[@comradecid]

oi wheres the link to the first video?

[@cediviannareeda4305]

HEYYOUGONNAREVIEWKISSINGBOOTH3

[@mariahanover9335]

As a writer, the extreme popularity of the Kissing Booth deeply depresses me.

[@shadowwolf6205]

Don't lose hope. The whole comment section hates this movie,so there is still hope left

[@boom-h7f]

Same. I put so much effort into what I write and at the end books like these get adapted into movies. I am so disappointed.

[@TheRealMikanTsumiki]

boi, you do not wanna know about 13 reasons why

[@Anelleclosett]

I hear you.

[@bungiecrimes7247]

Go write me a novel with your tears you toddler

[@ayeshad5170]

What I hate is how they act like this guy and girl, who don't even have the intelligence to calmly communicate with each other, got into one of the most prestigious schools in the world

[@sorryifoldcomment8596]

Seriously...it's not enough that this POS film tells kids "this is how to act in order to get a gf." They also have to tell kids, "this is how you act to get into Harvard!" When in reality, even Arizona State wouldn't accept them. 😂

[@13MRBrooks]

Because bad writers want drama and thought this is about realistic they can make it

[@vuivraalbastra]

Tbf emotional intelligence is different from the type of intelligence you need to get into a good university. I know actual human beings that got into top universities while being horrible at communicating and having a bad relationship... I used to date one.

[@rgama1173]

@@vuivraalbastra emotional intelligence is also important, but sadly it is hard to evaluate, so this kids are probably gonna get kick out at some point in the future because they fail to act properly in the future

[@lookingforlove839]

@@rgama1173 my question is, how she got accepted to Harvard when her teacher said she's not smart or talented enough? There hasn't been any scenes that really show that she's booksmart. Atleast in Sierra Burgess, it was established that she's booksmart.

[@justineb3305]

Remember when everything was a better love story than Twilight? Yeah, no, this is worse.

[@tomatoketchup4381]

Twilight and the kissing booth still feature a manipulative male love intrest

[@cilliersvisser661]

And a pretty bland female lead.

[@johannaisolde]

the sad thing is that although this movie is sooooooo bad both of my teenage cousins say that thats there favorite movie

[@mattissilverbern7791]

Are we gonna ignore the imprinting shit? Cause I mean This is bad but looking at a baby and imprint is gross?

[@night-seeker666]

@@mattissilverbern7791 We call it "pedophile fantasy" where I'm from.

[@ellieholland8205]

The story writing is bad but forgivable when you realise it was written by a 15 year old. The fact grown adults thought it was a good idea to develop it past Wattpad popularity is just horrific.

[@x-itsamystery-x1132]

THIS. The adults should be blamed, not the kid.

[@SegniFreeman]

The After Series watching kissing booth get bashed continuously: 👁👄👁

[@LadyOfTheEdits]

Here I am doing my best when writing my own books. I barely have anyone reading them!

[@theaboveaveragefangirl]

I'm 15 and I can write a better script than that.

[@MrEndstage]

@@theaboveaveragefangirl well to be fair it was years ago not that it makes it right but only now are they trying to show more healthy relationships instead if dramatic ones. I mean look people still think riss and Rachel are a good couple after all these years.

[@podbites_snippets]

this movie is so relatable to us teens, we all have that one friend that suddenly pulls up a guitar from his ass and starts playing.

[@dougthedonkey1805]

Don’t forget about how we all have half of the other students in their mid-twenties. Gotta have a couple of decades of practice to fit a whole instrument up there

[@natsby4life842]

The Sims 4

[@defencebangladesh4068]

lol

[@DepravedCoTApologist]

To be fair, I knew a guy in High School who basically did that. It got annoying when every beach trip had a 30 minute mini concert of the same songs he knew how to play started around a bonfire

[@euphoria7372]

@@natsby4life842 Holy- oh my god, thats soooo true

[@d1nae]

So Netflix canceled "i am not okay with this", "anne with an e" and so many shows but are making a _3rd kissing booth_

[@underscoreliz]

broooooo I know right

[@olywilleventuallyanimate9646]

“I am not okay with this” was canceled? :((

[@lewis7909]

Money is money

[@jessicaisibor6157]

Aw what! WYATT OLEFF NOOOOOO

[@WillsonT011]

Don't worry they have "cuties" coming out just for you and everybody else🤣 😃 😐 😣 🤢 🤮 💀

[@matthiasmodeste916]

Her IQ is literally 2 how did she get into harvard

[@ngairebarr1708]

Lots of money and the power of Mary Sue

[@haldanandpako2755]

Bribes. Lots and lots of bribes.

[@sophiekouhai]

main character privilege

[@kovacthesaggy4014]

Cannibalistic purposes.

[@granite8236]

the suck

[@ananyanyan]

Elle- Sexualizes, kisses and goes out with a guy when she has a boyfriend Noah- Breathes the same air as another female Elle- Peace was never an option

[@jonahlazer2076]

wait... was this film ACTUALLY adapted from a Wattpad story? i thought that was just a joke people made relating to how garbage it is. oh my fucking god what the hell.

[@molly19kate28]

Ya it is

[@murdermeharry8703]

The worst part is the original wattpad artist might never live down the embarrassment. They were 14 and will probably be forever labeled as a bad author because of this.

[@handhelder823]

@@murdermeharry8703 that's the worst part, they will forever be labelled by it, even if they would become better in writing

[@murdermeharry8703]

@@handhelder823 yeah it really sucks.

[@faeriecat444]

WHAT? no fucking way wattpads are written by literal 12 year olds how could they seriously make movies from that 😭😭

[@truffeltroll6668]

Showing young girls that it's good to stay in toxic relationships yet again. Thanks Netflix, very cool

[@scarletwire2549]

Bruh not even highlighting how bad Noah and Elle are together not to mention how toxic. No one is even focusing on the poor other girl and lee because he treated her terribly and she still stayed with him

[@slj3332]

Well, given that most of these movies that start off as Wattpad stories. Are written by teenage girls. From what I heard this story was written by teenage girl who's about 14-17 at the time. I guess it's safe to make the assumption that most but not all but most teenage girls think this is good and fantasize about this type of relationship for some reason.

[@saininj]

This movie was just Marco and Rachel being disrespected for 2 hours straight.

[@kokichioma2875]

@@slj3332 you're not wrong. I definitely had a weird abusive dynamic fantasy relationship in my head when I was that age. If I watched this when I was 15 I'd have probably liked it a lot more than I do now. I've moved on to the more adult soft porn of Anna stuart and Nora Roberts... and by softcore I mean.... it's like if pornhub had good well written videos but it was a book instead of a video.

[@findingging5902]

Also showing young boys that being toxic is romantic and 100%okay (assuming young boys are watching these movies)

[@mcfroggyswaggy2062]

Elle: Can I get into Harvard? Harvard: No Elle: But I wanna be my best friend’s laugh Harvard: OmG YES

[@sourgirrll]

💀💀 lmao only in movies

[@daddylevi1721]

*I waNnA Be RaChEl'S KiNdNeSS*

[@stanfatou2002]

💀💀💀💀

[@faithjordan2385]

😂😂😂

[@gucciasalways]

What does that even meaannnnn

[@Ott3rpup]

“Aw thanks is honey” “You’re welcome

[@helpme7277]

Facts

[@AgainstAllOdds101]

That was so cute

[@sillysillygoose111]

yeah

[@iamnotreal0717]

That was amazing

[@shlaghyachaturvedi9499]

Seriously, that was adorable

[@goldengirl1883]

I hate how Elle has no ambition of her own; she applies to Berkeley not out of love for the major, activities, or anything about the actual college, but rather to continue her mother’s legacy and solidify her friendship with Lee. Then, she decided to apply to colleges in “Boston” with little to no research or care, just to become close to Noah. Not to mention all the colleges in “Boston” are extremely different and we still have no clear indication of what she is pursuing.

[@DepravedCoTApologist]

Podcasting, obviously. We saw her do it for 10 seconds, so she's clearly going into that field

[@gracekim1998]

Good point

[@user-oq2eh1fo2s]

Andrew Meyer is podcasting a major? 🙃

[@UmbraMan1]

What am I doing Is mayonnaise an instrument?

[@CAMarino92]

Why does she need ambitions of her own? It's not like she's has character or something....oh wait...does she...have a character? a personality?....yay? nay?

[@juliasouza91]

The most frustrating part of this movie franchise is that they act as if getting into Harvard and UC Berkeley is easy.

[@ty-so1fp]

Elle and Lee are dumbasses no way are they going anywhere but Community College

[@weebymcweaberson8145]

Duh, Noah read a book once. That's how you know he's Harvard material

[@retrogaming2899]

Twilight the real question is how the hell did Noah get into harvest like this guy is retarted and is a generic rich kid so unless he paid his way in there is no way

[@lightning7665]

That’s the one thing I’m so confused about for all these teen movies. They make it seem so easy. And in the third movie teaser clip thing she made rejecting a call from Harvard so easy like bruhhhhhh

[@kfoster1935]

Imagine spending all the time dancing, creating dramas and doing the kissing booth and then getting in Harvard and UC Berkeley like it’s nothing harder than grabbing a sandwich in 7-11.

[@DPWFG]

Written by a 15 year old? Suddenly everything makes sense.

[@shinymetagross1666]

Netflix really needs to stop making wattpad stories into movies

[@gracekim1998]

Shiny Metagross agreed

[@thomasklein7914]

I'm 15 and this movie really increases my self-esteem when it comes to writing

[@skirk248]

@@shinymetagross1666 they can at least pick a good one

[@serpentofdays]

I think 15 year old me could have done a much, much better movie

[@autumnrose9655]

The real question is who sleeps in someone else’s bed without asking their permission first or telling them after? Who is she, Goldilocks?

[@deixhan2327]

Also, how did she get in? 😭

[@cacamas]

​@@deixhan2327and why

[@bellerica15]

“Uninteresting gremlin” is my new favourite insult

[@cilliersvisser661]

That's an insult to the gem from the 80s.

[@alexjewett7455]

I personally like to use "lobotomized starfish".

[@thedoomslayer6836]

Joey King looks like if Jenna Coleman got her head slammed against a wall immediately after birth

[@Nickel_The_Wise]

*WHO IS THIS CORPULENT GOBLIN, AND WHY DO THEY INSIST ON CALLING HIM 'VARYS'?*

[@snybies]

*Who has awoken the almighty Uninteresting Gremlin?*

[@captianviscount5261]

The most unbelievable part of this movie is that she's playing Killer Instinct with a ps4 controller...

[@thunblot78]

And that's the least stupid mistake in this entire movie.

[@BewareTheLilyOfTheValley]

Having played KI back on the Super Nintendo, I would love it if that gsme came to the Playstation. But there's much more I enjoy on PS than XBox so...alas, we are two loves who are not destined to get back together. Actually, I often got my ass kicked and those fucking half-circle combos with Jago giving me Nintendo thumb made it painful to even play with him for long. Then, tired out by the story campaign, I get to the end all for Idol to beat the everloving daylights out of me, brutal beatdowns that still haunt my nightmares. Nah...XBox can keep Killer Instinct 😂

[@rgama1173]

it hurts!

[@gluedthetree1272]

If you're gonna make someone play a game use the right controller

[@mousekateer627]

I hate myself for wasting my brain cells on this movie's logic but if they're trying to be trendy and going to make Elle a gamer (stupidly irrelevant) why use Killer Instinct ?! They could use Fortnite since it's newer and their target audience would play that

[@ziqqyziqqy]

"the battle of two tall handsome men over one uninteresting gremlin" the amount of times i've seen that trope should have killed me by now

[@CAMarino92]

That makes two of us

[@PowerBuffBoys]

To all the boys I’ve met before falls here too

[@ziqqyziqqy]

@@PowerBuffBoys and then both the girls dont get any consequences after diddling with another guy even when they have their own bfs. plus points when they blame the guy instead of acknowledging their own mistakes that they also did smfh

[@nadjak3410]

It's just teenage fantasies. At least girls don't shoot up their school for being rejected by boys. Instead they write on wattpad. 🙈 It's a semi-healthy outlet.

[@nikapipika]

@@nadjak3410 yes queen tell em

[@FoxInTheBasement]

I graduated university 6 years ago, and I'm still younger then the actor who plays Marco. No wonder teenagers are so insecure.

[@old_money_lady100]

Imagine teenage girls could have sugar daddy issues after this movie- For real, I only understand it If 17-25 years old play teenagers not any older, nevertheless 26-30 years old look quite young; and you know, Thomas Sangster is an exemption, he is freaking immortal and age backwards.

[@silashurd3597]

Frickin right facts bro!

[@haihai9022]

I’m 18, and somehow look much younger than them. But I think that’s unfair, since I am part Asian

[@gianna526]

I'm 15, and thankfully have realized that teenagers don't look 35. I grew up extremely isolated, and only recently witnessed real humans outside of my family. I had seen people in movies and advertisements, so I assumed that everyone was more attractive, more skinny, more muscular, and more mature than me. Once I met kids my age, I realized that I'm actually a pretty average teen, and I'm happy to be that way.

[@twentyonetortas5921]

How old were you then bs when you made this comment vs now vs Marco's age?

[@Coco-vm5xw]

HOW did she get into HARVARD? SHE HAS THE MENTAL CAPACITY OF A CHICKEN WING

[@dothmotherknowyouwearth]

Holy frick. Even highly intelligent people get rejected for different reasons and yet she gets in? As I heard, getting into Harvard means you have a passion for the field you are going into and I honestly don't see that here.

[@mariodelrio2387]

@@dothmotherknowyouwearth yeah

[@hamidsoltanpour2137]

"mental capacity of a chicken wing!"😂😂😂😂

[@ushiwakatoshijima4838]

Boi DO NOT disrespect chicken wings like that!

[@dontspeed3080]

How did she get into 2 schools and how tf is she still dating that SON OF A BIT## NOAH ESPECIALLY AFTER KISSING THAT OTHER DUDE and it's not a chicken wing it's a undercooked chicken biscuit wrap

[@misscypher9857]

Lee when Elle was drunk and stripping on a table at a party: Lee when Elle talks about how hot a guy is on the school’s intercom: *gotta go fast*

[@simarjotkour]

first Lee was drunk dude!

[@DussyBestroyer69]

?

[@dogouchu4356]

Oh well, he was at a party. He was enjoying himself then

[@planeteris3825]

I have zero understanding on how money is a problem for Elle when she lives in a big fancy house

[@Dani-bl7xz]

yeh like sell that house move into somewhere way cheaper and maybe have elle get a job to help with the tuition

[@planeteris3825]

And the fact that she is living in a house like that in LA

[@cgmason7568]

@@Dani-bl7xz no, a house like that in that area and a private school her parents are loaded

[@Dani-bl7xz]

CG Mason one parent do be dead tho

[@benwhittingham1139]

@@Dani-bl7xz get that life insurance

[@sierra9867]

Seriously though when she compares herself to an LGBTQ+ experience I had no words

[@evangeathan5964]

LITERALLY like if someone did this to me i’d punch them😐

[@ashleykings8263]

@@evangeathan5964 same

[@CharlieCat18]

Performative Activism at its finest

[@jhahsbbandn]

timestap?

[@emmachameli3196]

BRUH WHEN SHE WAS COMPARING HER EXPERIENCE TO HIS I WAS SCREAMING AT THE SCREEN

[@freedompancakes301]

Elle: *Sexualizes and talks dirty about a dude when she has a boyfriend. Noah: *Is near a female. Elle: Woah woah woah there.

[@NAME-yg8sl]

My thoughts exactly that is the reason I hated Elle to the point I like Noah. Although I didn't watch the 1st movie, now I hate both Elle and Noah and only like Rachael

[@danninmatthews5640]

Double standards

[@paulw5039]

Real life high school girls. The writers understand their target audience.

[@katesbreadslicer8404]

@@paulw5039 almost nothing is accurate to real life you’ve got to be stupid to think it is. Like he said It’s a Wattpad movie don’t take it seriously

[@paulw5039]

@@katesbreadslicer8404 The behavior OP is referring to is very common teenage girl doublethink. You'd have to be stupid to think it isn't.

[@Geno746]

You may say that his heart breaks when he sees her kiss that guy but I see it as the actor realizing the movie sucks. That is not a face of sadness but one of regret

[@anmolgrewal9011]

for instance, jacob elordi (guy who played noah) was so, SO much better off in euphoria (a series on HBO)

[@mimi-xx]

@@anmolgrewal9011 wait, kissing booth dude is NATE?? wow the hair really does change everything because i never even noticed

[@anmolgrewal9011]

@@mimi-xx YES LFMSKKAAKKFKDF IKR ITS SO INSANE

[@AlphaCTango]

So... The vibe I'm getting is "The Kissing Booth" is basically "Twilight in California."

[@tommysilvertongue42]

Y E S

[@ahardworker2154]

Yep just take away the world most boring vampires and wear wolf ever and you'll get this movie

[@fyrentenimar]

But without any supernatural element, so even more boring.

[@origamipein18]

Or Fifty Shades.

[@Mert_Yanik]

Its the love Child of twilight and 50 shades but with out the kink or the supernatural

[@akikogurashi2866]

The fact that they portrayed the “gay” people in the movie as having no personality traits and significance in the movie other than just being gay and making Elle seem like a remotely good person for helping him and having a point of view on him coming out to her that would be accepted by the majority of people watching is just offensive and it’s like they put the “gay” scenes in parentheses because if the movie was a sentence and those parts were in parentheses they could just remove the parts in parentheses without it having any effect on the sentence other than just it being an add-on.

[@GalaxyDogenut]

Yeah.

[@annulizbeth]

I'm going to slip into a coma because of how sweet it is-

[@annulizbeth]

*Slips into a coma*

[@GalaxyDogenut]

@@annulizbeth erm.

[@oppaloopa3698]

Yup. This is how we are treated in like every single movie. Straight Girl Savior is a real thing. Cause ya know, no gay can learn to love themselves and other men unless a heterosexual woman gives them a paragraph of encouragement that is really just about her own relationship issues.

[@Happymali10]

"Everything has to revolve around her despite her having done nothing." Are you talking about twilight?

[@analigiabatres9114]

This is one of the few films where if you said still a better love story than twilight and you'd be lying

[@sarroumarbeu6810]

And yet twilight has it's books as a redeeming quality....and this *gestures at this soon to be trilogy* got what again??

[@krashagigupta1432]

Twilight is not this bad. I know it gets a lotta hate, but in twilight I feel the characters are more self aware, the books definitely that, and I think the same about the movies. Like I understand the motivations of edward and bella. They cannot be compared to these people. Just my opinion. I feel the teenage content has either declined in quality or I have grown up. Either way I don't like the comparison. Twilight has it's demerits, but I feel it's 10 times better than this piece of television.

[@elizaelise5192]

I mean, in Twilight, Bella was hella bland but what made her different was that she was human while the other main characters were supernatural. In this movie, Elle is literally just a girl shown to have no talents or personality whatsoever.

[@standstillabby7940]

with the twilight renaissance everyone started watching it again but more for comedic purposes and realizing that Edward and Bella's relationship was really toxic and a lot of things didn't make sense/were wrong, i honestly cannot wait for that to happen to this movie

[@rafif1662]

That "Get in the car, Elle!" Was honestly terrifying for me and I've been privileged enough to not experience abuse. I can't imagine how triggering that must've been

[@sarroumarbeu6810]

Same here...lucky enough to never had that happen to me yet I flinched when the jerk dude-bro did that

[@AK907LSD25]

Sure seems like alot of people are upset over that scene. The only thing to take away from all this is what a brainless shit film is not how awful and triggering him hitting the hood is, good God people have some thicker skin.

[@grettoonist4997]

@@AK907LSD25 The film neutralises this kind of abusive relationship, and your response is that people get some thicker skin? As someone who hasn't gone through such harrowing experiences so I couldn't possibly imagine the extent to how insulted some victims of abusive relationships would feel seeing this comment. This is really, really scummy of you to say. I don't take The Kissing Booth that seriously due to how dumb it is, but do you think that scene isn't going to cite anger for the film brushing the scene off? This is what some abusive relationships are like, someone showing physical violence to get the victim scared enough into admission due to the abuser manipulating them to stay. Slamming your hand on the hood and yelling "Get in the car, Elle!" This is a bad situation. I can't believe I need to say these words. Then again, I can't believe I need to specify that when dealing with such sensitive topics, you should actually show some level of maturity. I'm not claiming you aren't allowed to make black comedy, but in certain situations, this is unacceptable.

[@AK907LSD25]

@@grettoonist4997 the highlight is you saying in certain situations this is unacceptable meaning reality, which is 100% correct that behavior is not acceptable in reality. But this is some piece of shit Netflix film. I couldn't come up with a metaphor that's more distant from reality if I tried. So hurt feelings in this context is trivial at best.

[@grettoonist4997]

@@AK907LSD25 Yes, this is a terrible Netflix film that has very little good about it, so whatever it does or says, you would figure it's not worth this level of criticism because it's a terrible Netflix film that has very little good about it? Why? What reason would that be? And besides, it's not that accurate of a case since it's on Netflix and was popular enough to warrant two sequels, so it's not like you can say, "Didn't get that much attention!" The film could be even more incompetent in terms of storytelling and filmmaking, but still wouldn't change the messages that it would be conveying to its target demographic. And the situations are barely resolved, so again. You think that this would have zero implications that aren't acceptable to present? Quite a few Netflix originals are typically not of high quality, but regardless, Netflix is still a major distributor of films, they're even a member of the Motion Picture Association. And films like these being happily released are the very reason why people mock the way Netflix hires almost anyone they come across. Yes, these are fictional characters so this would be even more obscene if they were actual people in real life. Because that wrong message would be emphasised. But being a lackluster Netflix original wouldn't and shouldn't mean they have no responsibilities or tact.

[@tardarsauce1842]

My girl classmate literally cried at this because she said the drama and romance are so "beautiful", *I laughed internally*

[@Sultanachan123]

Based

[@Ornithorhynchus.]

laughing externally would've been a good choice xD

[@CEAsfg]

@@Ornithorhynchus.yeah I’d laugh in their face lol

[@Ornithorhynchus.]

@@CEAsfg lol xD

[@fandyus4125]

When After came out, a bunch of my classmates were talking about how good it is and how they went/are going to see it. I died inside when I heard that.

[@babygirl6189]

I would say that Elle should've chosen Marco (the less violent and non-gaslighting guy), but Marco doesn't deserve that.

[@ananyanyan]

Same with Chloe, they were both decent people and that would really show the audience that relationships don't always work out and that's okay

[@taxevasion117]

plus them being closer in age would've worked out way better

[@Lunar.phant0m2]

Marco is an actual decent human unlike noah who’s a pedophile and an abuser also a massive red flag 🚩

[@georgeray1906]

To be honest Elle doesn't deserve to be with anyone since she's as bad as the brothers.

[@lolinontot7642]

I think Marco should've ended up with Chloe

[@jaydenvaporwave1772]

“They never had any chemistry beyond hot guy and.....girl” bruh that line had me dead.

[@eva8102]

Ummm. It is hard to say but I agree.... This whole diversity thing sometimes ruins the movies... Sorry not sorry.

[@mariebunn45]

Diversity doesn’t ruin movies, directors and writers don’t know how to properly do it. You’ve been watching horrible movies with ‘diversity’. Watch a good one and then come back.

[@eva8102]

@@mariebunn45 mmm. Another negative person. I din't even see this bullsh*t. But everything in this world is going wrong right now. Directors and writers are just mumppets in this movie industry. They have no power! Times changed. So STFU you piece of sh*t. You don't know who you are dealing with!

[@serenedystopia3488]

@@eva8102 Try Euphoria(not a movie, but still).

[@eva8102]

@@serenedystopia3488 Tried! F*cking goood!

[@jiggerblayne]

I feel like her saying the movie was “critic proof” is code for I hated the movie but it pays my bills so I can’t say anything bad about it so I wanna challenge the internet to trash it.

[@Xehanort10]

No film is critic proof because all films can be criticised.

[@seanbirch]

Xehanort10 that’snot what it means...

[@UberMan5000]

@@Xehanort10 I think what she meant is that the film would succeed, no matter what any critics say about it.

[@thecopperpenguin963]

That, and they’re going to make another movie no matter what.

[@ssharkbait]

UberMan5000 thats how a lot of movies are. Especially teen rom coms. Teens will watch literally anything as long as it has cute boy, plain boring girl who get boy for some reason, and quirky gay/black sidekick who make funny joke or is sassy. That’s how you know Jamie King has sold her soul cause I would think most established actors want quality over quantity. But hey, money.

[@tsifirakiehl4250]

I think this movie should have ended with Rachel, Chloe, and Marco realizing how much these people suck and leaving together to have an actually healthy friendship.

[@rieweeg]

As someone who is lgbt, I hate the "representation" netflix shoves in their movies and shows. They spread misinformation about bisexuality and every other lgbt characters personality is " I'm gay owo"

[@capylost]

EXACTLY

[@emissalty]

Yea they just put gay characters because they want to be diverse like at least give them a point

[@tanukimika]

Representation is not putting in some minority character just for getting diversity points without actual putting in the work, it's taking your time to develop the character and treat them as a person while putting them on the same level as every other character in the story. The Dragon Prince does this amazingly well, most other Netflix products don't

[@ayarriba9093]

I'm bisexual, and I'm not someone who wears my sexuality on my sleeve. Not because it's a secret, it's just not something that defines me. I wish I could see more characters whose sexuality doesn't entirely define them, there is far more to a person than who you go to bed with.

[@azuregriffin1116]

@@ayarriba9093 indeed. I do rather like Dr Who for that, particularly Capaldi's era. Madam Vastra is still best gurl, even if her kissing her wife got people angry. Actually, pissing off homophobes is a bonus...

[@MrNewRevolutionary]

Seeing the sparkle in Cynical's eyes as he said his long distance relationship was worth it literally has tears coming out my eyes. So sweet. Glad you're happy!

[@frankisnot1148]

I know right, it's just such a wholesome little detail to watch! Heartwarming. Unlike the movie ofc

[@dannnarutam]

Ikr?? It was so sweet 🥰🥰🥰

[@SilkyLew]

He found his queen in New York like in Coming to America lol. Nice

[@marijafrankovic1959]

I dont think hes ever happy sometimes he just suffers less

[@gabee7268]

Right! This channel has come a long way, I’m really glad people are bothering him to make videos now

[@edgarnello9165]

This movie just screams Not like other girls.

[@vivieckman7058]

exactly,like no offense but Elle isn’t even that pretty,like in BOTH movies she gets both of the “hottest/popular guys in school” and it makes no sense because she isn’t that special

[@jabby6709]

“I’m not like other girls... I’m WORSE”

[@hosie7230]

@@vivieckman7058 Elle is the prettiest girl i've ever seen...

[@anahiisbeast2878]

hosie well then you need to see more girls

[@hosie7230]

@@anahiisbeast2878 or you should get a taste

[@UzUMaK1-Lee]

This is why netflix is awful. They could have made a second season of The Society or I Am Not Okay With this, and that would've been incredible, but *no.* Instead, they made *three* kissing booth movies.

[@silashurd3597]

And cuties!😡🤯

[@silverprimus321boi9]

Their best teen Netflix series might be never have I ever. It's full of cringy pop culture references, but it's got a pretty good story and interesting characters

[@redacted8567]

They could’ve done more Jupiter’s legacy, but no. We get Gaslighting: The Movie.

[@UzUMaK1-Lee]

@@redacted8567 Yeah. They could've done Daybreak season two. We got 365 days. By now, young royals is the only reason I still have netflix

[@airplanes_aren.t_real]

Or day break, although that episode where they completely broke the 3 stories set up and the ending kinda sucked in my opinion I still want another season to explore the characters because aside from the main one and his romantic interest the other characters were really interesting

[@jentoons5732]

It’s films like these that give me confidence about my writing/storytelling skills. The Kissing Booth is so bad, yet the script approved by Netflix. Maybe I have a chance to do something with my writing and art after all...

[@NJGuy1973]

Just take your script, get rid of any nuance, and throw in a bunch of '80s references. That should do it.

[@vietinis7050]

Bestie your writting is probably 100 percent better than this garbage

[@bluehydrangea5506]

As someone who also writes....%100 this.

[@murdermeharry8703]

Bruh my writing is legit booty cheeks and probably worse than this but i still get confidence from it 😂

[@vietinis7050]

@@murdermeharry8703 broo i bet that your writting is still better then this wattpad story

[@alainamaas1906]

I am not a creative writer, I’m actually a terrible writer and I dread it. However, I genuinely think I could do a better job than this script.

[@mariodelrio2387]

Anyone with at least some writing skills can pull something off

[@bellatrixharrieblack]

I have done this level of writing when I was 12 and just discovered teen romcom lol

[@aliallail9874]

I have dreams that would make a better story than thing, and I had a nightmare about phantom dice.

[@Ashley-Lopez]

I like to think I’m a decent writer at least; I have a few works I want to have started by the end of this year :D

[@hexthekid7125]

@@mariodelrio2387 a todler can write somthing better then this

[@SussySerbo]

Cynical's relationship with his GF is disgustingly wholesome

[@WalkmanWillWalkAllOverYou]

I now have Diabetes from how Sickly Sweet it is.

[@lovestumacher]

Agreed

[@fluffiedoom]

I think it's awesome ^_^

[@jarrodedson5441]

@gamewizard I um what

[@vcagande7998]

How dare he show us that genuine smile on screen when looking at his girl

[@AleMazza100]

Those "Spaghetti alla Bolognese" are a crime against humanity. And Italianity. As an Italian I feel outraged. On a side note: you are great!

[@annacarozza9812]

Lo so, vero? Mi hanno fatto quasi vomitare!

[@christinachri1035]

when I saw this I was considering telling my italian grandma btw I'm italian 2

[@argumentativedreamgirl]

esatto

[@ninis22dg]

Concordo

[@clarab325]

Same here, I was physically in pain

[@SuperAbdul19]

I stopped breaking into someone’s home just to watch this video

[@drspaghet]

Well then lol

[@felixk1293]

A true hero

[@thegreenitalianmachine1835]

Dude, show the video to the dude and watch it together.

[@Ev1lLion]

Wait!!! So it was you?

[@jungkodd]

I stopped eating children for this

[@May-scribbles]

The whole “you can’t be friends with the opposite gender” thing is so old and idiotic. Like, imagine someone saying that a gay man can’t have guy friends or lesbians can’t have female friends... it’d be so obviously flawed. Then this movie actually insults gay people’s experiences WHILE propping up this trope in multiple ways - including Lee basically emotionally cheating on Rachel with Elle with the third-wheel shit. Dammit, why do I care so much about this dumpster fire of a movie?? Thanks Cynical Reviews. Great.

[@blissm3dia482]

Yeah it’s great

[@anonamass9244]

exactly, that gay couple was essentially a prop to make the main character look better. Pretty insulting

[@FirstLast-jr3we]

What if your bi, can you have no friends?

[@boarlegion5077]

You definitely can be friends with the opposite gender, it's called "The Friend Zone."😭

[@brucite1005]

@@FirstLast-jr3we This would also be pan but yeah ...

[@arsonmarkscheid4381]

when they have one gay kiss and the whole straight movie is under lgbtq+ category in netflix

[@fangal12]

On my carousel Chloe is the cover shot because black I guess 😆

[@PIZZAdayisback]

Netflix just does that sometimes y'know

[@daisybrianna77]

"Just think of the ad revenue." KZbin: *plays ad*

[@yiropu]

hahahahahaha that happend to me 😂😂😭😭 XD

[@Finn-tt6vk]

@@yiropu SAME!

[@PIZZAdayisback]

What time in the video?

[@Mialikesthings]

It happened to me as well.

[@nikolatrpkovic1674]

What Lgbt representation should be: just a character that happens to be lgbt, also not a stereotype. What it shouldn't be: what it is in this movie

[@beanus7394]

what it shouldn’t be: LITERALLY ANYTHING AT ALL LIKE THIS GODDAMN MOVIE 😀😀😀

[@williamjones2503]

Any kind of representation should be like that. Characters who merely are a minority but they have a personality, goals, and a character arc instead of making the character revolve around their minority status

[@dothmotherknowyouwearth]

_Brooklyn 99 would like to know your location_

[@beomiebear8038]

Even another bad netflix movie did better on making a gay character than in this one, in case you wonder which one it was, it was in to all the boys I've loved before

[@diva23luv]

William Jones Yes! Thank You!

[@elisabethholm3259]

NO ONES GONNA TALK ABOUT HOW UNREALISTIC THE COLLEGE ADMISSIONS PROCESS IS?? LIKE LITTLE GIRLS ARS GONNA WATCH THIS MOVIE AND THINK THIS IS HOW IT WORKS. AS A SENIOR APPLYING RN THIS JUST UPSETS ME SO MUCH.

[@guccicupcakeandsunshineboo6315]

College admissions process is the most stressful thing I have ever done in my life. They really want us to believe that little miss dumb dumb here who spends her time podcasting and entering dance dance revolution competitions and third wheeling her best friend’s date is just gonna get into Harvard because she wants to be closer to her man? That feels like a slap in the face.

[@anuwilson9039]

@@guccicupcakeandsunshineboo6315 *It feels like a chainsaw in the face...*

[@guccicupcakeandsunshineboo6315]

@@anuwilson9039 true!

[@jezeeeeeeeg]

For real, if I were in the movie; I would have gotten into all the Ivy school's for sure

[@BiBiren]

We don't do essays during admissions. We had entrance exams. EXAMS!!! Literally the most stressful and the scariest part of college admission. Why? came from a high school which didn't teach calculus and I failed the exam because of it. We even had to pay for it regardless of the result, despite from what I've heard from other countries that the tests are free. This is a totally inaccurate portrayal of highschool graduation life, directed by someone who probably never been to highschool.

[@_mylo_xyloto_1816]

Elle: *kisses another dude on LIVE TELEVISION and does not suffer any consequences* Noah: *is friends with a girl* Elle: T R E A S O N

[@shr1mpsush1]

Emily from Emily in Paris had a better moral compass.

[@_mylo_xyloto_1816]

@@shr1mpsush1 and she was a self-centered daft dimbo

[@halo129830]

I will make this 1k likes

[@gdplayer8768]

That comment pretty much summarizes the entire movie

[@thea_jpeg]

Elle: and I took that personally.

[@gogobaronbunny]

as a gay man the fact elle literally basically said “i understand your struggles 🥺” fills me with such anger and confusion i cannot even begin to explain

[@cheesecurls8705]

Elle is a heartless character and the worst thing about this is that she is hardly ever reprocussed for her actions, for example when she cheated on Noah and nobody ever spoke of it again in the film, also when she basically wrote a wattpad fanfic about the new guy at school and broadcasted it to the entire school and NOBODY ever speaks of it again and that entire subplot was all just a ploy to get Elle and Marco to start talking. Not to mention how she was completely clueless about how she was destroying Lee and Rachel's relationship even after confrontation because ofc Rachel forgives her after 1 convo. Besides Elle I think the second most toxic character is Lee for trying to control Elle's entire life and treating his girlfriend like absolute garbage the entire time they were together. Lee also seems to care more about Elle dating his brother than his own brother because when Elle dates him Lee is an infuriated piece of shit but when she cheats on him he litterally doesnt mention anything about it. Also that one goth girl that was from the intercom scene that had absolutely no relationship to Elle at all is seriously the girl that yells at her and flicks her head in the first film because she interrupted her make out sesh.

[@Chill-fq8cj]

Periodt sis 😭😭😭

[@albertthepeacock8020]

I hate how the KB 1&2 is lumped in Netflix Originals with Bojack Horseman and F is for Family,both superior forms of entertainment over Generic Teen Movie

[@chong6140]

pooja singamsetty true but i dont agree :3

[@notmuch1213]

@@chong6140 I- make it make sense

[@CerealExperimentsMizuki]

Eri and Marco and Fio and Tarma are Four characters.

[@galaxyocicat5660]

The main characters in this movie are toxic awful people. How much more if the teenagers watching this modeled themselves and their relationships after them?

[@shadowwolf6205]

I'm scared for all people, who think that these are "good" relationships

[@cilliersvisser661]

Precisely, but these execs know how to play teens like a keyboard. "Le PlainJane McMary Sue hooks up with Attractive Male. Insert Trendy Song & Vapid Styles. Yay Money"

[@LeonardoHernandez-eg5dv]

I'm a mexican 8th grader and my classmates love this movie (especially the girls), they think Lee and Elle are an example of a good "Best friend" relationship Please kill me

[@luisalfonsocecilio7374]

@@LeonardoHernandez-eg5dv I am at 9th grade at Philippines and many Filipinas love this movie and adore their relationship

[@gracekim1998]

That’s a awful situation 😨

[@misspopcoin2204]

She actually gets accepted into Harvard, & in the kissing booth 3's trailer, she gets a call from them & rejects it. If you get a call from Harvard & you don't answer, I promise you you're not getting a second call.

[@llel1416]

I'd say so too - if they even bother calling someone who's not responding to their acceptance letter in the first place...I mean I guess they have a long waiting list full of people who actually wants to go there. But Elle is so "special" I'm sure she would get away with it.

[@MashZ]

@@llel1416 I bet Harvard would be begging for her to respond to the letter

[@gracekim1998]

Yeah even though I don’t know much about Harvard, that sounds right

[@prakash-fn6cx]

but i am sure she is gonna get a call and fall in love with another hot guy there AGAIN its just so predictable that its not even funny anymore

[@nightowl6349]

MissPop Coin ikr

[@ananyanyan]

The only good thing about the movie was the "I'm British, you wanker" and the "Do you believe in charity?" "Yeah, that's why I'm talking to you"

[@squigglypop8748]

Elle and Lee’s relationship is so toxic and far gone at this point. There is literally no redeeming quality about their terrible friendship. And Lee is by far the WORST character in both movies. A lot of people are empathizing with Rachel and I get what Lee did was shitty but the writers put absolutely zero effort into her character and her relationship Lee. So when she blew up at Elle for something HER OWN BOYFRIEND DID- I just couldn’t care less about the plottine or her character. I still can’t believe that Elle and Noah got back together at the end. After all the miscommunication, the lies and eventual cheating they still end up together in the end. It’s a story with zero consequences and characters barely take responsibility for their actions.

[@tubulartortoise2557]

Too bad, we’re getting a 3rd one! I can’t wait! For this review!

[@thunblot78]

Its almost like it was written by a 17 year old who doesn't understand relationships

[@mrsnobody309]

I know it's like what was the point for all of that if they stay together, I feel like it's gonna be the exact same in the third movie but just in college and they'll also have a kissing booth oh dear god...

[@jayc7171]

I mostly agree w/ this. I don’t think Lee was the worse character in the first movie, ( he was still pretty shitty don’t let me wrong) but Noah’s def worse than Lee in the first one w/ being super controlling ,manipulative and borderline abusive.

[@vuivraalbastra]

@@jayc7171 Why is there a debate who's worse between Lee and Noah when Elle is worse than both of them? She lets some stupid rules they made up as kids control her life, she cheats on her bf repeatedly, she lies to her best friend for months (mostly in the first movie but she is not honest in this one either), she makes a scene at a family dinner instead of just saying that she can't come or something, she takes all of Lee's time when she knows he has a girlfriend. Sure, the other characters are at fault too, but Elle is the most consistently awful in my opinion.

[@talia7027]

I looked through the comments looking for anyone mentioning how Noah is legally an adult and beating up Marco (who's seventeen, since he's younger than Elle) would probably getting arrested, so I decided to do it.

[@aayushikapse1428]

FINALLY SOMEONE-

[@chanela.7786]

He never did fight Marco tho. They made it seem like he was when he did that Arthur fist🤣 but I guess Chloe talked him out of it

[@lonesavior]

Also, Noah got into a lot of fights, enough to require counseling. Unless he was a genius and a legacy, his application wouldn't be viewed favorably.

[@어머조]

Ok I'm fourteen and the last time I was talking to my friends about this movie they were actually fangirling about how it was so sweet and romantic. These people really need to think about how they're influencing kids who haven't been through real relationships.

[@wyun220]

sweet and romantic....? literally every single relationship/friendship Elle has is toxic as helllll.

[@diva23luv]

You’re a really smart 14 year old. Hopefully your friends will listen to you and not internalize this relationship/friendship garbage

[@Shenaldrac]

Pfft, you think some idiot 15 year old writing this as teen fiction is going to care or think about that? Like, I honestly don't think it's reasonable. They clearly don't have the life experience to realize that this kind of thing is bad, like your friends. What's the alternative? Not allowing people to write publicly viewable fiction until they're an adult and have experienced a predetermined amount of life? That seems not great from my perspective. No, I think the blame really needs to fall on the people who pick up these awful stories and think "hey let's make this a full novel/movie and make it big!" like this and 50 Shades. Those are people who are old enough and in my mind have the real responsibility to not promote abuse and unhealthy relationships. Without those people these stories would be far less known, and far less damaging. Just the fact that they wouldn't be implicitly endorsed by so many people by virtue of managing to get onto Netflix would remove a lot of the danger. Like, when you just read some story on wattpad or AOOO, you know on some level that that's just some person's personal writing, no more or less valid than anything you might think or write. But if it gets taken up by a movie studio, given attention and money, and put on a big site like Netflix... Well, people wouldn't allow a dangerous, bad film to be so public! So clearly this all must be okay and reasonable behavior. And of course it's not, adults are incredibly not infallible, but as a kid or teen I know that wasn't quite how I saw the world. Even if it's not a conscious thing, I think it is something that a lot of people wouldn't even realize. Anyway that's my thoughts!

[@jessicaisibor6157]

Its true i was the kids

[@olezka_dostoevsky]

As a Wattpad writer, I feel upset that things like this exist. I think I put effort and thought into what I write and all of this just y'know... *shame*

[@lynaluu5136]

25:25 the deep stare that Noah and Marco gave each other contains more chemistry than any relationship in this movie

[@ElPastalero]

I watched his Raycon ad because I felt bad for him that he had to sit through this whole movie.

[@potato.gh0sty517]

Me too

[@hayreddinbarbarossa661]

For solidarity??? He still gets paid if we skip it or not. But I applaud your commitment.

[@cranberryrosebud]

I sat through this whole movie, and I didn't get paid.

[@mbbbits4847]

Me too

[@lilium9361]

Me too lol

[@smaandre522]

The fact I actually see people on insta and tik tok, saying they want a friendship like Lee and Elle, and a relationship like Elle and Noah… So you basically wants an abusive relationship, who you can’t communicate with, because he’s hot and will forgive you for being a cheating bitch because you were suspicious of him, and act like you’re the only victim? And a friendship where you’re manipulative by your best friend, and cockblocking him, because you don’t understand that you don’t have to be with him, because you’re to stupid to realize, just so you can dance with him? Okay…

[@cheeseisherelive]

PEOPLE WANT THIS?! Geez legit Lee and Elle are such shit people and shit friends to each other and people WANT THAT?! Oh how brainwashed they are 😣

[@smaandre522]

Cheese McCheesey for real. Some people even think this is one of the best Netflix movies 🤢 They got no taste to be honest

[@cheeseisherelive]

SMA Andre it makes me genuinely feel so bad for the young people stuck with this garbage and abuse and think it’s normal 😔

[@cheeseisherelive]

Master Bates I agree Harley and Joker are interesting and complex but imo they should never be goals either! They’re toxicity and manipulation at its finest, honestly.

[@vanroyal244]

@@cheeseisherelive My generation feels like a f*ing punch line.

[@ezra351]

I just want everyone to keep in mind that "Lee" is 24 and just got married, his "girlfriend" in the movie is 30 years old, frikin 30 year olds playing teens!!!!!!!

[@BrainDead6669]

Literally riverdale and everything else on tv, no teens play teens except maybe stranger things but these are exceptions

[@just-trying-my-best-everyday]

THIRTY? RACHEL IS THIRTY? SHE LOOKS TWENTY!

[@swarakotamraju9463]

Y’all should watch never have I ever, the actors are like 17 to 18 and they play 15 to 16 year olds. Honestly refreshing lmao.

[@cbdhfbrjsjw5286]

@@swarakotamraju9463 the guy who plays paxton is 29 haha

[@swarakotamraju9463]

@@cbdhfbrjsjw5286 well I was talking about the three female leads but ok

[@meganlindner1925]

14:14: the goth girl was in the first movie: she was making out w Noa but then Elle interrupted them by asking Noa for the kissing booth.

[@saininj]

Was that really the same character?

[@kathrynvincent1563]

The Act and Euphoria proved Joey King and Jacob Elordi can act. This movie proves they can’t save a shit script (but not many actors can fix fundamental issues)

[@meghansullivan6812]

Jacob Elordi holy shit! The talent! And the Act is soooo freaky and good

[@allier1867]

true. whoever her agent is, accepting the kissing booth was a bad move

[@zacharyrosemann]

She's very good in The Act(its on Hulu if your interested)

[@de341f6]

the hilarious thing about the movie is that it makes you realize Joey King isn't even pretty because she looks just like Gypsy Rose Blanchard, who was practically medically mauled. Joey King's face is so askew it makes me wonder why she would portray a girl pretty enough to score the "hot guy"

[@tiaaaron3278]

Joey King looks like a discount version of Martha in Dark.

[@coolfrog7145]

Producer: let's create a gay couple and add a black woman for ✨diversity✨

[@meridianflower]

Oh yeah and make her bad guy for fun :)

[@jessediaz4342]

"Hahaha we are so quirky we added in gay characters and a black women we are so progressive with the kids these days hahahaha"

[@simplynoodles9304]

Javaria Lewis is it just me or did they play the “jezebel” trope?

[@meridianflower]

Simply Noodles Now that I think about it, they definitely did.

[@xxgirl101xx]

Of course they can’t be main characters or have any sort of actual effort put into their creation because that’d be hard, but look, we acknowledged that gay people and black people... exist! As stereotypes and plot devices! How progressive!

[@gremlin15]

TBH, Marco was actually an ok character. He did not kiss Elle, but she kissed him. Yeah he wooed her, but he did not ask her to cheat. Also, about the earring scene, ELLE LITERALLY SEES CHLOE IN HIS ROOM ON VIDEO CALL??? DOES IT NOT OCCUR TO HER THAT IT COULD HAVE FALLEN OFF THEN AND GOTTEN KICKED OFF???????

[@theflaminglitten-fo6jd]

yea they deserved way better, I would even want to be with elle if she was ganna replace me with the next hot guy she sees never go for a cheater, if they do it once, nothing is stopping them from doing it again

[@zminah_]

definitely

[@xxxmaysilssss690]

I would agree with you, but Marco still got too close to Elle even after finding out she was in a relationship. He constantly flirted with her and made suggestions that they should get together (from the “I would never treat you like that”). Plus after she kissed him, he tried getting into a physical fight with Noah for no reason, which was a dick move. The guy’s been fucked over and cheated on by his girlfriend which was perpetuated by Marco himself, and he had the audacity to try and rub it in Noah’s face and get him to fight? He just became very unlikeable from that, and even after Elle rejected him, he still implies that he’s not gonna give up on her.

[@zminah_]

@@xxxmaysilssss690 truee

[@emmachameli3196]

marco > noah any day lol

[@AJ-cv7sp]

It's actually so insulting, how she got into Harvard. I mean, people study their asses off, keep practicing the interviews in front of their bathroom mirrors in the middle of the night, get deprived of sleep, forget to eat , etc. JUST so that they can have good grades, be confident for their interviews , and be considered eligible to enter to Harvard, and then Elle comes along. She literally gets into TWO amazing colleges without doing ANY HARDWORK, just writing a lousy essay and sucking at the interview. I mean, I loved a few series in Netflix but it's surreal how they think that they can just do anything with the story, make it the MOST used and thrown shit, make unbelievable scripts and want everyone to believe that's how reality works . I'm like, so pissed.

[@goingunder2548]

Not even just that, but can we please normalise just idk going to a university not in the national top 50? Or even just the local community college? I'm autistic and remember thinking how great it would be to go to the university of Manchester or something. But it was too far away and I wouldn't have been able to cope. So I went to a closer university and its ok! Im not lesser because of it. The university I went to was still a good rated university. It just wasn't in the UK top 5 universities. It annoys me so much that every one of these movies has to end with them going to the most prestigious college in the country. Its so unrealistic and I bet it makes the kids who watch this feel like crap, and that would be a large part of the audience. And ironically these movies usually try to tell you life doesn't have to be perfect etc.

[@PhilipWester]

Now, now, "The Kissing Booth 2" is perfectly balanced with "The Kissing Booth". In TKB1, Noah was the abusive one and in TKB2, Elle is the abusive one. In TKB3, they'll both be abusive!

[@justjoannak]

OMG 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@clarab325]

Love thatt

[@personwithamid-lifecrisis6289]

Spoilers: I'm not sure if this is true as I've never watched any of the Kissing Booth movies. But I did come across some spoilers for the Kissing Booth 3. Noah and Elle will separate, same goes for Lee and Rachel. They reconcile a few years later, with Noah and Elle deciding to remain as friends and Lee and Rachel getting back together.

[@kyoshisgf7562]

@@personwithamid-lifecrisis6289 I watched it and that is what happened

[@meagtaylor3392]

I'm bi and getting real sick of gay characters being thrown into movies with no actual character or personality, other than "gay," simply for brownie points. If you can cut out the character and lose nothing it's not representation.

[@night-seeker666]

Oh don't complain, this is the best representation ever, is what I'd say if I was shilling the movie. Honestly, same, sick of it.

[@hannahelizabeth1571]

Exactly. People are not fucking props

[@bro-rm5xo]

@@hannahelizabeth1571 👏

[@gracekim1998]

Yeah what they’re meant to do is write the character right because at the end of the day they’re still PEOPLE

[@crypticscrutiny1153]

Shallow fan services such as these are just trying to tick the boxes and offer as broad an appeal as they can. See? Is got something for everyone!

[@miskatonic6210]

The Intro is still a better horror movie than Slender Man.

[@GalaxyDogenut]

Indeed.

[@nailahc.8615]

*Y e s* 👁👄👁

[@guestusersomething4340]

That’s a pretty low bar

[@GalaxyDogenut]

@@guestusersomething4340 yeah.

[@GalaxyDogenut]

@Black Ninja oh.

[@emscnpck]

sierra getting into stanford is actually realistic because she had good grades and spoke 4 languages

[@emilymay6369]

I hate how Marco says she’s worth it at the graduation, like no she’s not she played with his feelings then ran off to her boyfriend

[@SegniFreeman]

Now that I watched it over . I see what everyone meant. I was always shipping Marco && Elle. But I’m reality Elle is really dense💀💀 Anyways Stan Marco && Rachel

[@Potato-gn4di]

They have no idea how hard getting into Harvard is, hell people who get straight A’s for all their life (like me) still can’t get in

[@bergonath8851]

*their

[@ruranrin2197]

*their

[@Randerson2409]

*their

[@spooplegeist5260]

they’re*

[@nevergonnagiveyouup4279]

*thair

[@abcdef-yx1vy]

the fact that elle was mad about noah having a girl bestfriend and was jealous of her, but she failed to realise that she is literally the same thing for Rachel. Atleast Chloe didn't third wheel into their relationship like elle did in lee and rachel's. Also, she is only friends with dudes herself. How you gonna get mad at your bf for having a girl friend along with 4 guy friends, when you yourself don't have a single girl friend🤦

[@theoverratedchannel6225]

Not 2 mention she also got thirsty over marco’s workout video...wouldn’t that b considered cheating in it’s OWN way?🤨

[@abcdef-yx1vy]

@@theoverratedchannel6225 exactly and she was literally spending quality time with a dude behind her bf's back but was mad at him for having a girl friend??

[@theoverratedchannel6225]

Pooja I swear, elle’s such a hypocrite!😑💢

[@Veronike._]

What do you expect? They did this in to all the boys I've loved before 🤦🏾‍♀️

[@theoverratedchannel6225]

Beauty Universe oh yeah! I 4got. Which is weird b-cause the kissing booth basically copied “to all the boys I’ve loved before” sequel!😂😑💢

[@mothman5883]

This gave me memories of me and my male bestfriend, (i'ma girl) and he had a girlfriend, this girl KNEW I liked other girls. Despite this, was very very jealous of me.. and thats not the wrong part, she was jealous... of his FAMILY.. HIM hanging out with his FAMILY. Yeah, imagine being jealous that your mans loving his family. Crazy

[@hanaortiz7596]

you didn't talk enough about how lee didn't respect his girlfriend's reasonable wishes and then let his best friend take the fall for it even though elle didn't know how bad it was making rachel feel and lee did... i hate that man so much

[@sita9071]

Ugh ikr, when my friend and I were roasting this movie we felt so bad for her. Rachel deserved better.

[@GirlDo3]

Lee is the most toxic. He constantly tries to control Elle and lashes out at her when he can't control stuff such as who she dates and where she goes to college. He somehow landed a girlfriend and he neglects her and makes her feel unimportant and he gives no fucks about his brother. I truly hate that caracter.

[@ppeggy45]

Ummmm

[@andreakim8986]

In this movie all the characters got worse Lee is just 10x more toxic not only manipulating Elle but completely discarding his GIRLFRIEND Elle actually cheated after ASSUMING Noah cheated and lead another guy on only to discard him Noah.........got less protective and got a better haircut Rachel.....I honestly feel bad for her, her boyfriends a total douche

[@simplynoodles9304]

i guess you could say being toxic and abusive runs in the family ✨✨

[@andreakim8986]

Simply Noodles honestly

[@night-seeker666]

The director says that it's because he had a friend that kept breaking their rules or something, but the first movie established that those rules are supposed to be bullshit, so Elle is both supposed to be the hero and the ass. Choose one or the other. At least Batman v Superman portrayed Ben Affleck as the villain.

[@jemimaizua4711]

@@simplynoodles9304 yep

[@fastasgaupthebargaining7174]

Who is Rachel again

[@MistySophie]

I wish they did Cloe a lesbian, even just saying this like "I'm not into boys", instead the whole unrelated gay scenes they just put in the movie. It will make the whole Noah/Cloe thing better and also put an LGBTQ person there causally, without making a big deal out of it

[@alien-rat]

(Spoiler for Bridget Jones 2 ahead.) Not to spoil the movie if you haven't seen it and intended on watching it, but the directors did that exact plot twist in the Bridget Jones sequel and it was hilarious.

[@stefanie_irl]

Nat-Stew Maybe you should have said what movie you were going to talk about before spoiling it because some people may think that you’re talking about TKB

[@alien-rat]

@@stefanie_irl I edited it so there would be no mistaking the film I'm mentioning.

[@itskatie5720]

I thought cloe was lesbian for the whole film and she was gonna reveal it at the end but nope lmao. Idk why but I felt a lesbian vibe from her as I my self is lesbian so I just thought that.

[@alien-rat]

@@itskatie5720 It certainly would have improved the film at least a little bit if that had been the case.

[@lovekalopsia8459]

are we just gonna ignore how elle DECLINED A CALL FROM HARVARD?? LIKE WHAT?!

[@thepinkelephant2520]

WHATTT 💀💀💀💀

[@justreviews8081]

Fun fact: the actress who plays Rachel, a 17 year old girl, is 30 YEARS OLD in real life

[@day6atemywallet78]

WHAT!

[@lightyagami4535]

Please don’t tell me that Lee’s actor has a big age gap compared to her 😖

[@shubhisharma4642]

The actors playing Chloe and Taylor are also pushing 30

[@pphillips2005]

Summer Izzie he’s 24 so not super big

[@SarahsKnight0]

Oh, good. Now I don't feel dirty for thinking she was smokin' hot ... and also way too good for any of these other characters she hangs around in the movie.

[@taags]

What the hell does ”critic-proof” mean? Nothing is critic-proof.

[@jozzen77]

I think its because the movie had terrible reviews but still was hella popular

[@joshuagraham5750]

*Insert joke about someone’s Mother*

[@cilliersvisser661]

My initial interpretation was more akin to The Emoji Movies' rebuttal to critique. But that's pretty unfair to Strong Independent Emojis.

[@tanvidesai7004]

*Cinemasins has entered the chat*

[@thatrandomaccount4342]

@@joshuagraham5750 YOUR MOM!!! - Richie from It

[@boboblueblue2]

The only reason Noah got into Harvard is because his rich ass parents probably donated a $2.5 million dollar expansion to their main library.

[@NJGuy1973]

There's a term for guys like Noah at Harvard: "development cases." That means "substandard student who, despite having rich parents, gets asked to take a year off before enrolling."

[@subtleartofdisappointment5867]

I remember the movie was filmed in South Africa in Cape Town and my friend played an extra. She told us about the filming and we were so excited to watch it 😭

[@clarab325]

wait that’s actually pretty cool tho 😭

[@berisadm]

Noah can’t be just friends with a girl without being suspected of cheating, but How does elle not understand how Rachel feels when she’s basically doing the same shit by hanging out with lee all the time 🤔🤔 I love bad movies but this is not it , we don’t need or want sequels for it !!

[@LKH-jd8ft]

Oh yeah and lets not forget how she always accused him of cheating but ended up being the one who really cheated i-💀

[@liviwaslost]

L2K7H 000 cheaters don't want to be cheated on

[@MeWe-fh1lu]

@@LKH-jd8ft that's sad like she should have not gotten that so called "happy ending"

[@berisadm]

L2K7H 000 funny how she can kiss a whole other dude on stage humiliating Noah and that’s just glossed over. While accusing him of cheating only on suspicion 💀💀💀

[@LKH-jd8ft]

@@berisadm tea!!!! Oh yeah and how she was slow dancing with Marco and went on a DATE with him while talking about not trusting Noah💀 And then there are people (fans) who say " idc Noah cheated" like they didnt even watch the movie and saw ELLE CHEATING and how they explained why Chloes earring was under Noahs bed... honestly Elle is the worst character from the WHOLE movie and we are supposed to empathize with her 💀 LMFAO she didnt deserve Noah nor did she deserve Marco

[@lilybliblablubb5023]

At least this movie makes me feel better about being single. I'd chose the single life any day over whatever these characters are supposed to have

[@personguy2662]

Couldn't agree more.

[@chrisakaschulbus4903]

not having social interactions at all seems more pleasurable than what those "characters" are going through

[@oculttheexegaming2509]

Me too.

[@lunabearsong2043]

Absolutely agreed.

[@ruby-cn5qe]

that "get in the car Elle" scene was actually so triggering for me

[@bats5472]

Legit scary

[@sniff.6186]

Mhm. Yes.

[@lgbtqiarights]

understandable tbh. i got kinda scared too since i’ve experienced verbal abuse for a lot of my life, and still do

[@sarassmiles8679]

Reminds me of legally blonde “get in the car Elle”

[@laurelmcfarland7316]

The fact they bang RIGHT AFTER IT is even worse

[@Firefly-pc1rk]

Ok but what if someone took a video of a girl like what they took of marco.....everyone will be pissed! We need to stop doing this

[@michellecieoffi4846]

As a gay man myself, when I first watched this ... shitpost, not gonna disgrace films by calling this a movie. I was SO confused by the introduction of the gay arc. I was like, "Who is this guy? He's not Noah's brother. Elle doesn't have any friends." and by the end I was basically the Avacado kid. "False gay narrative ... Thaaaaannnnnkksssss." Edit: I still have access to my parent's gmail account on YT and forget to switch out sometimes. So no Michelle is NOT my name.

[@analigiabatres9114]

😂😂

[@Kickiusz]

Whatever you say, Michelle.

[@michellecieoffi4846]

LOL

[@ayaan4482]

and not a cishet playing the saviour as if she ended homophobia 🙄✋

[@fatimahaljazairi]

@@Kickiusz bro wtf how you gonna offend someone because theyre named michelle (even tho it aint their name)

[@drawingdame7718]

Wait a minute, I just had a thought: If Dance Dance Revolution is such a big deal to the characters, to the point where there's a DDR competition with a cash prize consisting of thousands of dollars......why not just make the characters that are into DDR (Elle, Lee, and Marco) actual, competitive dancers? Like part of club or something? Then you could explain how Elle could get accepted into college (dance scholarship), why she's so good at DDR, and have an actual REALISTIC competition with a bigger cash prize (I've never in my life heard of a DDR competition, but I'm pretty sure there's plenty of dance competitions out there) Also instead of a kissing booth just make it a charity dance off or whatever?

[@rigbyricenoodle]

DrawingDame the people that wrote these movies are not that intelligent 😺

[@dustinmaandig4331]

But that would require actual creative thinking

[@larissajoy]

I think they actually are in the dance club of the school, pretty sure that's the reason they have to make a booth for the charity fair in the first movie.. but yeah since they are, the movie could establish that a lot more..

[@boopbleepbloop]

Thats because the writers have 3 braincells and dont think how a film based in realism isn't realistic.

[@personmcdudeguy]

there are absolutely ddr competitions. and there are a few that do have relatively large cash prizes. theres a few ddr youtubers on here that upload screencaps of their competition wins. i know this because i have a friend that plays competitively and has been obsessed with ddr since 5th grade.

[@ruiaram]

When elle went to senior year,she was supposed to get smarter,not dumber.

[@night-seeker666]

Shhhhh, don't tell the white girls.

[@SilvesterBathroomStallone]

Lol a tenth of the students of my year who graduated are in jail, you can get through high school and still have the intellectual capabilities of old wood.

[@justinthibodeaux8601]

Well its not like school teaches valuable life lessons or even valuable lessons period for the most part

[@alexman378]

Not really. Kids come out of school a lot dumber than when they enter.

[@Komi-san-lo6oj]

Seriously, what is worse is that Elle didn't apologised to Noah about kissing Marco whereas Noah apologised to Elle because she thought that he was cheating on her with his best friend which in the end it was just a misunderstanding....

[@THEFRISKIESTDINGO]

The gay couple. Yeah, that 40 year old guy finally got the courage to kiss his 28 year old boyfriend. Why does everyone look so old?

[@AndyBrussainJackson93]

The few minutes when Cynical talks about his long distance relationship is more romantic than this 2 hour long movie

[@phantasmagoric3069]

Andy Brussain Yeah, that was cute

[@bowlrr]

Who asked for this?? First one gave me cancer. I don’t get how anyone can feel sorry for anyone in this film, I hate everyone in this, they basically made another Bella, who had every hot guy obsessing over her and had everyone in the school for some reason so interested in her.

[@TesKal41]

*Bowlr* learned *Mega Cancer*

[@terra_the_nightingale135]

Bella at least talked back to Jacob and got angry at him from my memory. Bella was extremely boring and didn’t do shit but in the last movie became somewhat interesting yet Elle is not only a doormat and gets everything handed to her but is just awful. It’s like they took Bella and gave her steroids and more privilege of getting everything. And Wtf even is Lee in this damn movie???

[@ClockworkChandelure]

You know, compared to Elle Bella seems like a girl power icon. I mean, Bella in the movies punched a werewolf once- broke her hand, sure, but hey.

[@terra_the_nightingale135]

Yuri Bazzone ya least she fucking did SOMETHING 😂

[@Vexominous]

I hate how Netflix continues to finance trash like this but cancels good series like Messiah.

[@jeannarox]

Im from florida and my high school hosted a “field day” (it was called the senior olympics) where seniors would group up and compete as teams. It wasn’t mandatory but the super involved students partook in the festivities

[@one_piece-nut2692]

Why is everyone so toxic in that movie... Oh a 17 year old made it with their over enthusiastic imagination 🤦‍♀️

[@terra_the_nightingale135]

Over enthusiastic and delusional on how the world works... also needs to get some priorities straight considering how everyone is selfish and/or a doormat in this movie.

[@wonderlust1308]

15... yikes

[@Vaguer_Weevil]

@@terra_the_nightingale135 "Over enthusiastic and delusional to how the world works" just describes the majority of people in general nowadays. "Obnoxious and retardant" is how I'd describe it, yes I meant to type retardant otherwise my comment would be automatically deleted again if I used the actual word.

[@omnical6135]

they were 15, which is worse... imagine becoming an adult and living with your cringy wattpad story that had atleast two movies

[@cooliostarstache5474]

*15

[@briseisu7254]

MARCO DESERVES BETTER!!!!! and i rlly dislike this movie it’s so cringey 😬

[@michellecieoffi4846]

For real, he's buff, a musician, bilingual, not a misogynist, and he wanted NOTHING to do with Elle? Perfect.

[@MateoTorrre]

Saw this movie cause my sis was watching it. Dude could do so much better than her but dude caught feelings

[@michellecieoffi4846]

@@MateoTorrre please tell your sister that this is NOT what a relationship should be and how to tackle the issues in a HEALTHY way.

[@Marvelfanatic3658]

@@michellecieoffi4846 lol It's probably too late 😂

[@Kai-tn4yx]

@@michellecieoffi4846 I think she knows that :) Also, parents should raise their children, not movies.

[@Citizero]

She looks like she is his mum because the actress is a 30 year old woman playing a teenager.

[@SoWhosGae]

Meh I've seen younger girls look older than her tbh 😂

[@ZyroShadowPony]

@@SoWhosGae I've seen older women in my workplace who look younger than they are

[@Citizero]

@aye bruh not her

[@SoWhosGae]

KittenPyroNao That's pretty common. Some people have better genes.

[@ZyroShadowPony]

@@SoWhosGae true, I was surprised a new employee was 48 yet she can pull off 27

[@shototodoroki4868]

Dredd 2: The sequel fans of the film, fans of the comic and critics want to see Kissing Booth 3: Has no fans who want to see it over the age of the author