The LINE that proves he's real

[@enzoamore8971]

"You're never too old to learn Snips" Darth Vader who is old learned from his son Luke

[@slewone4905]

What made vader is what saved him. People need to understand, Dark side is no evil. Love is a dark side trait. Jedi is forbidden in romantic love for that reason. strong attachments could cloud judgement of what is best. vulcan logic, The many is greater than the few or one. But love is opposite of that. The one is more important than everyone else. People need to understand, the opposite of love is not hate, it's indifference. Love and hate are both passion. Love proceeded hate. His love of his mother led to a sandpeople genocide. Love for his wife led to joining the dark side. But love for his son led to his redemption too. This is the question. Baylan did not wish to fight. The lesson partly was that fighting is not the solution for everything. Stop trying to find a war.

[@ionryful]

​@slewone4905 If you go with the original, George Lucas interpretation, the Dark Side is the corruption of the Force.

[@eevee9111]

Vader was in like his early to mid 40's when he died.

[@GrugTheJust]

@@slewone4905 Yoda states it best, "Fear leads to anger. Anger leads to hate. Hate leads to suffering." The inverse is attachment, attachment leads to love, love leads to obsession, obsession leads to control." The Gray side of the force is neutrality and balance.

[@embryblake4530]

@@slewone4905 Love is not a darkside trait, they just dont like it as jedi as it leads to attachment, and fear of losing those attachments which can ultimately lead to becoming dark.

[@voodoochild1975az]

I am fairly certain Hayden and Ewan trained harder than any other Star Wars actor. And longer. To the point I suspect both actors are legitimately dangerous with a real sword. But it shows up on film. Ewan and Hayden's saber choreography is ALWAYS few notches up on every other actor in Star Wars

[@Goaheadandstaymad21332]

Actually, Sir Christopher Frank Carandini Lee probably holds that title. He's trained with more swords than any other actor alive and he was a world champion fencer. Which he used for his fighting style as Dooku.

[@themuffinman5755]

​@@Goaheadandstaymad21332no he has a point, Hayden and Ewan's fighting choreography always seems like better quality than any other actor in the franchise. Lee was too old and couldn't do half the stuff those two could when he played Dooku. That's why most of his stunts were from his double.

[@ligma445]

@@Goaheadandstaymad21332 didnt he die recently

[@omegashenron8]

@@ligma445 he's been gone for about 10 years now, so not recently.

[@ligma445]

@@omegashenron8 oh

[@FirestoneAnimation]

Notice how Hayden is actually attempting to sound like his Clone Wars counterpart. And he's actually solid at it

[@mr.conductor4938]

The Clone Wars didn't exist back when the Prequels were made, and the show did Anakin justice. Hearing him do the Matt Lanter voice is perfection.

[@dacel88]

@@mr.conductor4938 Not only that, But Anakin was meant to be cocky, confident - like he was in the clone wars series, and in this episode. But the bad script in episode 2 and 3 made him more arrogant than cocky.

[@tristanlambert658]

The bit with him saying having a Palawan isn’t all it’s cracked up to be was perfect, indistinguishable from a Clone Wars scene.

[@badsaint1019]

Maybe, but I'm gonna say it is 20 years later and him being a smoker is also a factor. But it does make him sound more mature.

[@depoittier]

I'm glad I'm not the only one who noticed this. And it's kind of come full circle. Matt Lanter was originally trying to imitate Hayden for the Clone Wars. And for the Ashoka, Hayden is trying to imitate Lanter, and even goes so far as to try to adopt some of the body language from his cartoon counterpart. I appreciate that he's showing respect for the work others have put into the character since the prequels.

[@inyalgaico1563]

Its also proof that this is indeed anakin as thats something Ahsoka would not know

[@vegardnybakeri8148]

Unless Luke told her what happened

[@inyalgaico1563]

@@vegardnybakeri8148 yeah True but we have no reason to belive that this point in time...its also less likley since that would of led to a resolution of her view on anakin and her place in the galaxy about it

[@BC08]

The episode almost beats us over the head with the fact that this was Anakin and was actually taking place in the WBW. Jacen hears lightsabers clashing beneath the waves Ashoka is found feet underwater after being out of sight and undetectable by starship sensors for hours. Jedi or not - she can’t hold he breath for several hours Anakin refers to Luke Jacen hears lightsabers clashing Ahsoka didn’t die of drowning It happened, it was Anakin … clearly not meant to be a dream sequence.

[@PatoChu]

@@BC08this is Star Wars, you shouldn’t overthink it

[@BC08]

@@PatoChu I agree, given the fact that all context clues point to it really being Anakin we shouldn’t overthink it. It was meant to a real experience in the WBW

[@markosusnjara2049]

Anakin completing Ashoka’s Jedi training, helping her fully realize herself as her OWN JEDI, with the good of Anakin but not destined to fall like Vader 💯I also think Anakin is teaching Ahsoka how to become One with the force when she eventually dies. Incredible. And thanks for the vids man!! Love the humor combined with amazing insights. Keep it up!

[@gabzitoshorts]

and thank you for the compliments combined with amazing insights! :)

[@rcbmmines4579]

Yeah he taught her a lot here and it actually helped bridge her characterization from before and also bring it back there. She needed the will to live, the confidence to be a good master for Sabine, and the conviction that she’s Anakin and not Vader’s legacy.

[@slewone4905]

no, this is Anakin completing his training but not as a jedi, but more. He is saying to her to find her own path, rather than that of the Jedi.

[@rcbmmines4579]

@@slewone4905 He didn’t specifically telling her to be one or not to be, but he did emphasize the legacy of her being his Padawan as he was Obi-Wan’s. He wants her to be more than a warrior, but a Jedi is more than that “because I’m more than that”.

[@jurgenvermeulen5355]

This also means he'll be accepted as a Jedi master for completing an apprentice's training👍

[@rcbmmines4579]

Exactly! Man the choreography here (and yeah Anakin’s signature saber spin) definitely the closest we’ve had to Nick Gillard’s work. Also, I’m pretty sure they actually stop the deaging effect at the end as he lets go of his Dark Side eyes and before disappearing. That and remembering what Luke said, makes it clear that it’s actually Anakin.

[@Andalaeknir86]

Hos eyes weren't sith eyes, but they were red

[@rcbmmines4579]

@@Andalaeknir86 they technically can show up for non-Sith Dark Jedi, but not as common. Look closely, they're yellow outlined in red like they're bleeding. The saber's light just makes it look completely red sometimes. Otherwise they're the same eyes Maul and Sidious have. In ROTS, he only has them when killing the Separatists and right after Obi-Wan cuts him in half.

[@maxdos404]

She fought the real Anakin, remember that Kanan's son heard them fighting on the coast.

[@stewietinktink8441]

That wasn’t the real anakin that was a space ghost

[@maxdos404]

@@stewietinktink8441 Well, thats quite Anakin, He is the Incarnation of the father, he is the chosen one, after all.

[@TheTranscendentForce]

​@@stewietinktink8441​ "what is real?" (c) another chosen one's seeker

[@staskandan]

I think Jasen heard Ahsoka's fight with Baylan Skoll

[@ReapeX]

@@staskandan Baylan Skoll was no longer on the planet

[@DaenerysUchiha]

I love Anakin's spinny lightsaber moves you can tell he's just ready to bust out some killer moves

[@corndog5487]

My only problem with this episode is that even Luke's own father is ignoring him at this point

[@beewage5778]

No way! He was a force ghost at the end of RotJ and we have no way of knowing if he is still communicating with him at this point in the timeline.

[@corndog5487]

@@beewage5778 yeah but he never really stopped him or helped him from what we see. He could have easily intervened during Ben's nightmare problems or in grogu but he just doesn't

[@galacticgamingguy5906]

The only time he intervened seemingly was when Luke was nearly trapped on Exegol through a Jedi ritual. That happened in the book "Shadow of the Sith"

[@tvvistedv3nom26]

The sequels shouldn’t be canon

[@hanslubas]

Maybe he found out about that thing with Luke and Leia...

[@louiswindsor7334]

when anakin came out of the smoke in the clone wars and sad the immortal line "its anakining time"

[@SacGhostbusters]

I did think it was all in Ashoka's and that Anakin was just a figment of it but when he says he doesn't recognize the battle on mandalore, that's when I knew it was Anakin.

[@adamb89]

The one thing I like about Ahsoka is they finally show what she looks like without that head thing on. I always wondered, how do those head tails connect? Are they like horns or something, growing out of little nubs? And the answer is they just sort of gradually go from facial skin to head tail.

[@Darkdiver28]

Asking the real questions here

[@muddbath9522]

I don’t know why I see so many people saying this lol, we literally saw her without the headband in Tales of the Jedi, I guess unless you didn’t watch it, but if you haven’t then you defy should because it’s really good ❤

[@Darkdiver28]

@@muddbath9522 I guess the reason it’s a bit shocking, is because it’s live action.

[@muddbath9522]

@@Darkdiver28 ah that is a good point

[@jackduddle9449]

Whenever hayden is on camera the scenes are so emotional his acting is incredible

[@Patryc]

just help me save padme. i can't live without her 😭

[@2maddie184]

It makes sense if Anakin was a force ghost, it was explained that force ghost appear less blue and less transparent if the force is strong in a certain location, take for example Obi wan in hoth, he's barely visible because hoth is not strong in the force but in dagobah he's less transparent and even interacted with the environment (production error at first but was given lore by Lucas himself), but the world between worlds is pure force so it makes sense

[@TheRockinDonkey]

I heard once that Lucas originally planned for Obi Wan and Yoda to interact with Vader on the death star to assist Luke, but changed his mind, so I'm not even sure that interacting with the environment was out of the realm of possibility for a force ghost from the beginning.

[@2maddie184]

@@TheRockinDonkey we all can agree that what doesn't makes sense is somehow Palpatine returned and Rey Skywalker

[@ansal2525]

Not only was Anakin's force Ghost real, but he is also dual and can change from Vader to Anakin easily. Its great and scary at the same time. It was a good addition.

[@frname7665]

Anakin's force ghost isn't dual. He's in the light. This was just Anakin being one with the force and using this to show things to Ahsoka, creating things that aren't there, including "Darth Vader". Confronting her to an image of the dark side to force her to fight back.

[@BattleCrier]

The detail on Ahsoka´s short eye change was just a cherry on top.

[@fodonz]

He has full mastery over both his light and dark side persona. He embodies the balance of the force.

[@blitzwolfer4154]

I thought it was referencing how Ahsoka met Darth Vader in Rebels and said she refused to fight him because she knew he was Anakin, and replied with: “Then you will die.”

[@julianojosoa2145]

She said I will not leave you! Not this time!

[@fodonz]

She never refused to fight him

[@brettdouglas3433]

They're called member berries. It's what writers rely on when they have NO talent.

[@Gwynbleidd_117]

We NEED more lightsaber choreography like this. The prequels was the pinnacle of live action lightsaber duels. I was kind disappointed in the lack of Ahsoka using her lightsabers with a reverse grip though, especially in the sections where she is young Ahsoka again.

[@chrispekel5709]

I'm old enough to remember when people hated it because it looked like they were dancing and not trying to kill each other. It's funny how it's come full circle now the kids who grew up with the prequels are older

[@JustARTificial]

I've never wanted Star Wars to bring back confirmed dead characters like Sidious, but oh my god I really really really want Anakin to come back as more than just a spirit. Hayden is just a joy to watch and should have been in Episodes 7 to 9 as a mentor.

[@TheRockinDonkey]

Yes. If they had done it right, Luke would have been in Episode 7, they would have told the story of the fall of the new Jedi order, and Anakin could have advised Luke as a force ghost, the same way Obi Wan had in Episodes 5 and 6.

[@Mrkviczka]

He is probably the father now. So he finally bringed balance to the force.

[@sommojames]

I thought it was when Ashoka met Vader in rebels, but now that you point it out, reference to Luke makes more sense

[@itaylaevsky1504]

i thought so too!

[@barbarianjk2355]

Yeah because Ahsoka says "I won't leave you, not this time", not "I won't fight you".

[@sommojames]

@@barbarianjk2355 tnx, passed too much, did not remember the dialogue

[@Kevin-zz9du]

Nope. You're forgetting this is Disney... who made the sequels with no roadmap. I guarantee you, that line was only there for nostalgia baiting purposes, just like his very appearance. I guarantee they didn't think it through. Also, force ghosts don't look like that. And in Canon, that is the only way the real him could appear and talk to her. Or... They're violating canon, to really put him there, just to boost ratings... I mean... he DID become a force ghost and could appear to her, but where's the blue glow? The transparency?

[@LSB44446]

He was so fucking good in this episode. When his hair starts to go crazy he looked just like his young self when he fought Obi Wan

[@CodaCode]

ahsoka is buddy-buddy with luke now, so it's very possible that he just recounted the battle to her. but very cool for them to throw that line in there

[@theghost6412]

I can see Hayden has learned a lot since the prequels, his acting is far better and he is really doing the roll justice now and really putting in the effort for the fans with little mannerisms and quirks that have been added since in the cartoons. Lots of homework done and I am stoked for him and the others.

[@chrispekel5709]

His acting has always been good. He was just very badly directed by Lucas. Other stuff from around that time he was good

[@theghost6412]

@@chrispekel5709 but he has gotten better though

[@RangerEthan369]

He also says "I'm not familiar with this battle" during the siege of mandalor

[@prestongiles9917]

I love how Hayden's Anakin sounds a bit more like a mix of his original portrayal and Matt Lanter's

[@productivestruggle9489]

"Ive heard that before." "This is how i responded."

[@IdoEDITSok24]

0:15 thos is the best part 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😅😅😅

[@lorenzo2141]

The "I won't fight you" is also what Ahsoka says to him in star wars rebels when they fight, I think it's closer to the Ahsoka's line that luke's

[@dascientist8443]

She says “I won’t *leave* you”.

[@lorenzo2141]

@@dascientist8443 Close enough

[@rhov-anion]

@@lorenzo2141 Not really close at all.

[@etiennedeleage6804]

I love how they referenced a line for the 40th year anniversary of return of the jedi

[@LUNITICWILL]

it's Anakin as a force ghost talking to, and training, Ahsoka. he had one final lesson to give, as did Qui-Gon to Obi-wan at the end of his show

[@deityjc]

The whole "will you live or die" thing really stuck out to me. I think she was likely stuck in a limbo, and Anakin appeared to help her decide whether or not she'd fight against her own death. The reason it was so vivid was probably because the planet was a force nexus similar to Dagobah, considering it was filled with wildlife and had little to no technological influence and was therefore more strongly connected to the force. Meanwhile her body would've been kept alive underwater with the help of the force almost like Vader or Maul when they should've died. Of course this is all speculation from someone who hasn't brushed up on Star Wars lore in years. Tldr: It probably was Anakin's force ghost summoned because Ashoka was on the verge of death and didn't want to continue fighting (aka living).

[@hyp3rblade]

I think can speak for the people who saw anakin show up here We all shat ourselves when we saw the chosen one walking in like an absolute G

[@wessnyder117]

It is probably his Force Ghost getting Ahsoka to come back. Like how Obi-Wan came to Luke on Hoth.

[@Rkralv]

Anakin skywalker have taken the place of the father and has become the balance of the force

[@comradeshadovshki]

We need more Anakin and Luke in Disney Star Wars series. The sheer amount of joy these characters bring to the internet (Mando season 2 finale+Book of Boba cameo and this episode of Ahsoka + Obiwan) .. you can just see it in all the fan reaction videos that pop up during those moments. These are the characters fans crave and want to see, and we're seeing a resurgence in love for Hayden where he was unfairly maligned during the prequel era due to Lucas's bad directing skills. An Vader spin off show (with Hayden playing Vader hunting down remnant Jedi with Inquisitors and dealing with the Emperor, along with flashbacks of Anakin) and spinoff Luke show post RoTJ (maybe use Sebastian Stan as the actor with very light deepfake work in post) searching for Jedi and Sith relics and learning to accept both the light and darkside of the force in harmony (and seeing the new republic begin to falter around the edges)... both of these shows would be a literal license to print money for Disney and rekindle passion for Star Wars the likes of which we haven't seen yet. If done properly the Luke series could even go to some lengths to bridge the gap and help repair the story between RotJ and the Sequel Trilogy to help merge it in and retcon some major issues introduced by the sequels. But mostly it would be a love letter to the fans who made SW as popular as it was and the ones with the greatest disposable income to boot.

[@nilothesage]

It's a callback to the fight they had in rebels

[@gudaran]

well at least she didn't say "I won't fight you... daddy"... that would have made the exchange much more awkward...

[@druidkhan6066]

Should remember the cave on Dagobah, some places are strong with the Force, so while it may or may not be Anakin, its possible the Force to recreate important figures who were part of a Force user's life.

[@themole4369]

Wondering if the world between worlds is the location that force ghosts project themselves from.

[@jeremysra]

Ahsoka takes place AFTER The Book Of Boba Fett, it means she already met Luke and he could have told her about what happened in ROTJ

[@Thungur1337]

Anakin is the balance.

[@randomrazr]

her blue sabers sound different from the clone wars show. got the sound effect of them igniting wrong

[@sosaix3545]

I knew that the second the line was uttered; and remember, Luke said it multiple times - the one you showed here, and again when hiding in the shadows from Vader: "I will not fight you!"

[@khonsu70]

Can’t help but wonder after seeing this episode - were Luke’s battle with “Vader” in the Dagobah cave and Rey’s vision of her “lineage” on Ach-to also manifestations of the World Between Worlds? Seems like it can be accessed at locations that are strong with the force when powerful force users are present, and that it’s purpose is to teach them something important/transformative. Possible?

[@marco002]

No. Suddenly everyone forgot what is a foce vision.. And suddenly everything is WBW for most of the ppl.. Ahsoka was not in WBW, she had a force vision

[@DJFowFow420]

I like this idea

[@DJFowFow420]

​@@marco002are you dumb ? That shit was 100% the wbw

[@Traumglanz]

@@marco002The thing about Ahsoka is that she has a special connection to the WBW and she was apparently gone for a day and did not show up on the scanners until she did. So it most likely was the real deal.But you are right, it could have been a force vision too.

[@marco002]

@@Traumglanz The problem with that is that Chopper detected Ahsoka in the water while she was still fighting with Anakin.. as she could not be in 2 places at the same time then she was not in WBW.. moreso, there were no Portals or echoes from the past/present/future there so it was deffinietly not WBW

[@DokterCreeper]

Ahsoka also told Vader that she would not fight him and then she did anyways. So that's why he said he's heard that before.

[@donovan1345]

Exactly, some people just grasp at straws, sometimes. And this dude forgot the whole chatting with Luke before he died, as well.

[@llvllercyplays8545]

No she didnt she said she wouldnt leave him again.

[@ThesonofAJR_edits]

It's over Ahsoka I have the high ground

[@pansprite6218]

I think it's referention to battle on Malahor when Ahsoka destroy half of Vader helmet and said "I won't leave you, not this time".

[@struggleskywalker1025]

No, it was a reference to when luke said it to him on the second Death Star

[@rrrw.01]

Nah, Ahsoka also said that to him in the Sith temple in Rebels. For me the proof was that Jacen “heard” the duel through the Force (showrunners letting us know it definitely wasn’t a “dream” Ahsoka was having, rather something actually happening on another plane of existence).

[@FirstLast-xk6fd]

She said " I won't fight you" to Darth Vader in either animated series or game cant remember which

[@fooltheroyal8691]

It's already canon in star wars rebels that Asohka has already met Vader and is in fact aware he is what remains of Anakin- that said, I cant imagine this meeting going over with a "I won't fight you" When she already has and lived to tell the tale.

[@slawton17]

She fought anakin as Vader in rebels, here she's fighting anakin as anakin, the image of him here is the anakin she knew and grew fond of. It makes sense she doesn't want to fight the good version of anakin

[@fooltheroyal8691]

@@slawton17 Not everyone makes the distinction that Vader is a different person like Obiwan and Luke, Leia certainly never did and Asohka had the same mindset. She does see Anakin as Anakin and Vader as Vader, but she sees them as the same person. So this was just an oversight in lore because they only took knowledge of Asohka from clone wars but 100% forgot about rebels, clearly.

[@slawton17]

@@fooltheroyal8691 obviously she knows they're the same person but you're missing my point. Anakin in this scene represents the good memories she has with him. When he was Vader she didn't share anything with him.

[@refinedzero]

I completely agree, I thought the same, how could she know such a detail?

[@reckszkingzactivitiesrkat.4134]

Anakin is a force God now at this point 🔥🔥🔥

[@crazyrenwick4700]

But he can't beat Ashoka in a fight?

[@reckszkingzactivitiesrkat.4134]

@@crazyrenwick4700 It was training , designed to get her confidence back in being a warrior instead of giving up on life not a fight to the death type story scenario here ✅.

[@crazyrenwick4700]

@reckszkingzactivitiesrkat.4134 ah ok fair enough. Not seen the episode in full. Thanks for clearing that up

[@reckszkingzactivitiesrkat.4134]

@@crazyrenwick4700 Not a problem it happens.

[@coffee_drinker2912]

For real for real.. Which makes it real.

[@clairemadeinheaven]

OUR BOY REALLY SAID THIS IS WHERE THE NICK GILLARD CHOEREGRAPHY BEGINS LOL LOVE IT

[@TenmaStupidity]

memberberries.....lots of memberberries.......

[@akuladoctor7355]

It is well known, that the force has the ability to temporarily bring people back to life as force ghosts. Originally these ghosts had some limitations, and in legends the limitations became clearer. However in Disney canon it seems they can basically do whatever they want. Now we could assume, that the world between worlds is a special place where the ghosts wield much more power, and thus can manifest as if they were flesh and blood. But in my opinion Disney just desperate at this point, and try whatever they can to bring back old characters. Even as a short temporary thing for the hype.

[@zerronprime9683]

There is a part that says this is anakin. When tge madalore siege scene comes up, he says, "i do not recognize this battle".

[@blackviper1850]

the lightsaber spin was made in the obi wan episode with the flashback

[@eevee9111]

It's wild that Ahsoka is older now than Anakin was when he died.

[@plague6174]

They're the same age by this point. Anakin died at age 45 during ROTJ, while Ahsoka would be 40. Assuming her show still takes place 5 years after ROTJ like Mando s1-2 has, she's now 45 while Anakin would've been 50. But if her show is taking place slightly later than that then yeah she's def outaged Skyguy.

[@eevee9111]

@@plague6174 She's supposedly 47 or 48 in the show.

[@plague6174]

@@eevee9111 Hmm alrighty

[@edwardjohnson6744]

Jacen looking down over the water listening to the lightsaber duel through the force was confirmation enough for me. But what do I know?

[@filipbuskovic3373]

It is good that Lucas successor continues following the ancient knowledge.

[@whereschavo3953]

Hes a force ghost.

[@joshuaflynn7324]

Pretty sure Ahsoka told Vader "I will not fight you" in rebels, which this series heavily carries off from, so I believe it was referring to that and not Luke.

[@frankm9529]

Its just proof Filoni can't do anything except copying better work

[@violabeaumont3758]

This was the real Anakin in the world between worlds. This is the True Chosen One having mastered both the light and the dark.. giving his Padawan one final test. Hera's son could hear their lightsaber duel through the force. This was not just Ashoka's imagination.

[@justchill8946]

does someone know the backround music at 00:24? i mean the title not the artist (Kevin MacLeod) help would be appreciated

[@TheAnimatedWonders]

As much justice as this did to Hayden's portrayal of Anakin, his ability to act, and also the continuation of the Clone Wars series, I did miss hearing how Anakin spoke in the original prequels. If there was a scene in this where he even had a glimpse of his prequel voice mixed with the Clone Wars voice, it would've been great, but this did feel like Clone Wars Anakin brought to life which is also great too

[@chueki5874]

Can't have everything

[@TheAnimatedWonders]

@@chueki5874 To be fair it does make sense. This Anakin is mentally 35-40+ whilst the whiney Anakin was late teen early 20s. Still cool though

[@aidankreltszheim3599]

I wish Dave filoni directed obi wan kenobi. He would’ve given us everything that we wanted.

[@johnkyl123]

Wait why is anyone debating this?… Anakin is confirmed to be of the force enlightened as of the end of 6 and 7,8,9. Episode 6 remaster fully confirms he enters the panel with Qui-gon, yoda, obi-wan and the fodder force sensitives. But in episode 9, he’s directly present through the force. We see him as a force spirit and Kylo the entire duration of the third trilogy can sense the sith malice that Anakin left behind on the helmet when he ascended. If he wasn’t still present within the force after dying, he wouldn’t have manifested as a neutral entity and the energy residing on the helmet would have dissipated instead of still being active. See any sith belonging explanation in direct lore. Anakin manifested to Ashoka in this, no different then Vader on dagobah to luke. If you want an example to draw relevance from in how star wars re-uses same imagery to drive the basis that the force repeats itself. Except it’s actually him and not a force projection, because he’s dead and can now act freely within the universe as a force spirit. They do not interfere with the universe aside of that which they are meant to do by the laws of the force. What ties it all together is blind man in rebel one, that gives us canonized late game confirmation that the force as it’s own plot device, within a plot, is truly the reason for everything. No one actually has an individual fate, the force is one big movie that plays out how it wants too. Doesn’t matter who’s involvement. It’s already pre-determined. The force allows them to appear when it is deemed the next set of events, which is why we only see them manifest themselves in times of trial, crisis or resolution. It wouldn’t make sense if it wasn’t actually Anakin anyway, because she would have no divisible lesson to learn in re-living the events. If not for anakin making it clear. The force doesn’t use dead people as a motif, instead it allows that person’s spirit to interact on the mortal place for said purpose they must complete. If Anakin wasn’t dead already, then it wouldn’t be Anakin. But because Anakin is dead, that is indefinitely Anakin because the force would not use an otherwise resting spirit. Meaning anakin, just as yoda, qui-gon, obi-wan; This is how anakin chose to manifest to Ashoka. He directly taught her darkness and in understanding that neutrality, this is why in-turn Ashoka is so powerful.

[@davidm4566]

Ahsoka also told him that in Rebels when she faced Vader.

[@lisaerk8487]

No she didnt. On malachor she said to him "I wont leave you, not this time." With him responding "then you will die." She NEVER said "I wont fight you".

[@nathangames1576]

I thought the same thing; looked for the scene on YT to double check my memory. It was faulty.

[@davidm4566]

@@nathangames1576 I'm pretty sure she did. She said she wouldn't leave him this time for sure.

[@arkhamguard6479]

I know it's weird, but I just realised Luke looks a bit like Bobby Kennedy

[@benjaminmella9208]

IT RHYMES

[@psylocke1107]

Ahsoka told him that during her confrontation with Vader on Malachor V in Rebels. So yeah. It makes sense he heard it before because she already told him (Vader) before.......................

[@armandomendoza7371]

She told him that she wouldn't leave him, not that she wouldn't fight him

[@overheatedeskim054]

My gawd why so many people keep saying this. Ahsoka said it to vader last time she saw him and then she fought him. This is a force memory to decide if she lives or dies she was currently drowning in the ocean she didn't teleport to another dimension.

[@shadowsun649]

This is Anakin FR FR 😂😂😂😂😂

[@darthtalyn]

Ahsoka said it to him in the sith temple during a season finale of Rebels. So it could be in her mind. But I don't think so.

[@Anthony-wf7qb]

0:31 7 years

[@3adgamd3r]

Well yeah, of course we haven’t seen it since the movies, they literally had months each movie to practice and perfect the fights, TV shows get like, a couple weeks to get something put out So of course Hayden and Ewan can bring their skills back, they had A LOT of time to develop those skills, and Hayden seems to have kept up with it to some degree, probably for fun

[@Fallen_AngelXx]

i personally think its when he fought ashoka in star wars rebels

[@youngtoneski7868]

i like the theroy that when they die they take the father daughters place. i just wonder who will be the brother?

[@joebarkley975]

Ahsoka also said she won’t fight Vader though…. In rebels prior to their duel

[@alex-oh8bh]

I Didn't GET THAT!!! i thought it was something like in their duel in Rebels

[@a1pha_star]

on god on god, respectfully.

[@theunderdog9353]

I myself also think he's the real Anakin, but I also haven't ruled it out completely that Luke simply told her about this moment off-screen and that's how the Anakin "hallucination" knew about it. Unlikely? Yes. Cheap? Hell yes, but it's Disney Star Wars. I've been burned before... If another episode in the WBW doesn't happen and we don't get the answers to the burning questions after this episode, then I think that in itself will be the answer. For now, I am trusting Dave. He's done a great job so far, but you never know... Time will tell!

[@ianlee1305]

Ahsoka told that line to Vader in rebels.

[@tianfromthebrickworld8487]

Wtf of corse he is the real ANAKIN and of course he is aware of his actions, he is literally a type of God now, he can go from the dark side to the light side as he wants, he is the chosen one, everything Anakin did in this episode was coldly calculated by him.

[@frname7665]

He doesn't go to the dark side. He used an image of him on the dark side to confront Ahsoka to her fears and force her to fight. Anakin as a force ghost is in the light. Not "split" between light and darkness

[@tianfromthebrickworld8487]

@@frname7665 no inventes mmds porfa, el es un tipo de DIOS, EL ELEGIDO. EL.UNICO, EL ES STAR WARS

[@anarchicxi8628]

AHSOKA ALSO SAYS IT IN REBELS

[@rafiki1017]

Anakin also heard that before when her and Vader fought at the temple on Malachor. It COULD be Anakin, but they’re not literally in the WBW because that’d mean Anakin was actually at the siege of Mandalore. But you can’t change the timeline. So it’s probably just a vision, but that’s still good. If it was Anakin, he wouldn’t have turned back to the dark. So maybe it’s the force manifesting itself as Anakin. Or Anakin was just pretending to go dark to teach Ahsoka.

[@Goaheadandstaymad21332]

Ahsoka said she wouldn't leave him, not that she won't fight him. Luke said that he wouldn't fight him.

[@barbarianjk2355]

I think they're actually in WBW, but the Clone Wars part was just a vision of course. Anakin has the role of master guiding his apprentice. He's just too self aware and his reactions are very complex and nuanced. So it's not merely a Vision.

[@BillPlunderbonesTew8]

we got a Luke and a Leia reference in this ep

[@jackwuzhear]

Not quite - when Ahsoka confronts Vader in Rebels, she says the same thing after she damages his mask, to which he replies, "Then you will die."

[@ericcarver1341]

Really good point

[@cyril-rr2jk]

Is this before or after the events of the Boba Fett and Mando series? If before, then you're right. She couldn't know. Otherwise, it's reasonable to expect that Luke would have told her about the events over Endor, including his initial refusal to fight.

[@fidelavila8620]

No, she said that to him in Rebels.

[@Beeruspvm]

Also Jacen heard the lightsabers. It's real!

[@jonahbutterfield5792]

She said the same thing to Vader before their fight in rebels. Though yes it also was as vader. So that’s 2 times he’s heard that

[@snappedsquire8479]

Unless I am mistaken, she said "I won't leave you", not that she wouldn't fight him

[@jonahbutterfield5792]

@@snappedsquire8479 ah yeah I think that’s all she said. I’ll have to go back and see

[@RealDoctorMuffins]

She said "I won't leave you, not this time. (Vader ignites lightsaber) Vader: Then you will die@@jonahbutterfield5792

[@JOMNIplays]

0:33 it’s not 5 years after ROTJ

[@EQU1US]

She said that to anikan the last time that they fought

[@SogonD.Zunatsu]

Bitter sweet if you understand they basically had her do what Luke did in Episode 6 so she can replace him going forward since they can't use him due to the sequels.