The MAW IRREGULAR Fleet (and it's FOUR ERAS of Star Destroyers) Explained | Star Wars Lore

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EckhartsLadder

EckhartsLadder

4 жыл бұрын

On today's Star Wars Legends lore video, we examine the MAW IRREGULAR FLEET, which uses at least four eras of Star Destroyers (from the Venator and Acclamator, to the Imperial Star Destroyer and the Turbulent).
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@EckhartsLadder
@EckhartsLadder 4 жыл бұрын
Hope you guys enjoy!!! daala sux
@timbartschwolfman
@timbartschwolfman 4 жыл бұрын
Keep up the good work EckhartsLadder
@mr.starwars8863
@mr.starwars8863 4 жыл бұрын
Give us a battle breakdown for the Battle of Fondor of the Second Galactic Civil War.
@QJODRUMS
@QJODRUMS 4 жыл бұрын
Do Fondor please!
@chrissonofpear1384
@chrissonofpear1384 4 жыл бұрын
More NJO battles?
@goldenghetto7797
@goldenghetto7797 4 жыл бұрын
Please do a battle breakdown
@keatonburton6064
@keatonburton6064 4 жыл бұрын
I would like to see a Battle Breakdown of the Battle of Fondor.
@kelborhal2576
@kelborhal2576 4 жыл бұрын
DEWIT
@orionrokoh1290
@orionrokoh1290 4 жыл бұрын
I second that
@DarthAbaddon6480
@DarthAbaddon6480 4 жыл бұрын
I would like to see this as well!
@WilliamSmith-ev4kh
@WilliamSmith-ev4kh 4 жыл бұрын
I agree
@freezetasticvoyage19
@freezetasticvoyage19 4 жыл бұрын
I concur
@joefield8078
@joefield8078 4 жыл бұрын
Luke Skywalker: You killed Millions of people with the Sun Crusher Kyp Durron: Yea, but I feel really bad about it. Luke Skywalker: Okay, you can still be a Jedi.
@revantobias8567
@revantobias8567 4 жыл бұрын
it probably helped that it was Imperials.
@heavyarms55
@heavyarms55 4 жыл бұрын
Also remember that Kyp WAS under Exar Kun's influence, and tried to take his own life while destroying the Sun Crusher in the end. Further Luke had the blood of at least hundreds of thousands from destroying the Death Star on his hands.
@ericflyingraccoon923
@ericflyingraccoon923 4 жыл бұрын
@Tron awesome K/d ratio am I right
@chad9015
@chad9015 4 жыл бұрын
Well Luke destroyed 2 death stars so 🤷🏻‍♂️
@pubcle
@pubcle 4 жыл бұрын
@@revantobias8567 A third of those stationed on the Death Star were family and/or accommodations support. This is not accounting for prisoners.
@bernardomenezes808
@bernardomenezes808 4 жыл бұрын
We want the Fondor battle breakdown. Pls Eck
@bernardomenezes808
@bernardomenezes808 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Eck!
@pablolezgar
@pablolezgar 4 жыл бұрын
yep
@Smellbringer
@Smellbringer 4 жыл бұрын
"The beacons are lit, Fondor calls for aid." "And Daala will answer."
@Makapaa
@Makapaa 4 жыл бұрын
* insert [Brass theme of Fondor mixed with String section playing elements of Maw-ian theme] blaring at full volume here *
@keatonburton6064
@keatonburton6064 3 жыл бұрын
Nice reference to Lord of the Rings.
@stephenlutz6936
@stephenlutz6936 4 жыл бұрын
Her fleet makeup sounds something of that of a rebel cell trying to fight the Empire.
@dylanwight5764
@dylanwight5764 4 жыл бұрын
It also sounds exactly like what it is -- the remnants of a discarded Navy having been refurbished to the best of her limited resources and pressed into service under a single ideological banner. The Rebels would never be this grand unless they could manufacture new vessels with a distinct advantage over their opponents (which the MonCal designs provided). The Rebels would have preferred a fleet of smaller vessels supporting massed starfighter operations, so while I can see Rebels maybe scraping together enough crew for a skeleton Victory or Venator, I can't imagine them procuring such a large mishmash of antiquated capital ships like Dala's fleet.
@magisterrleth3129
@magisterrleth3129 4 жыл бұрын
@@dylanwight5764 Well, if you look at the lore, the rebel alliance did have comparable mishmash fleets at different times. Often using their more iconic Nebulon B's in conjunction with older CIS warships. It makes sense that they'd gravitate to the Separatist vessels, they all had a high degree of inbuilt automation, and the Recusant destroyer had half the tonnage of a Venator, and less than 5% of the crew compliment.
@dylanwight5764
@dylanwight5764 4 жыл бұрын
@@magisterrleth3129And of course, the CIS vessels already had readily convertible hangar space. You'd just need to overhaul life support on these decks and extend the deck space to help arrest incoming starfighters.
@brambo3011
@brambo3011 4 жыл бұрын
I'd love to see a fleet like that in episode IX
@princeofpokemon2934
@princeofpokemon2934 4 жыл бұрын
Well that makes perfect sense. For some weird reason I kind of had that idea when I first saw this video.
@XLjackbot
@XLjackbot 4 жыл бұрын
F in the comments boys for Pellaeon. A truly loyal imperial and the best of the empire.
@123455thatguy
@123455thatguy 4 жыл бұрын
Hey who knows, maybe he'll do better in the new canon.
@gokbay3057
@gokbay3057 4 жыл бұрын
F
@Grubnar
@Grubnar 4 жыл бұрын
F
@gameoflife9576
@gameoflife9576 4 жыл бұрын
F
@j.bproductions5424
@j.bproductions5424 4 жыл бұрын
F
@StopTakingDamnHandles
@StopTakingDamnHandles 4 жыл бұрын
Last time I was this early, the empire still had V wings in service
@michaelramon2411
@michaelramon2411 4 жыл бұрын
I like Daala. While she tends to be a poor tactician, she is actually a decent leader in terms of getting people to follow her, and just about the only Legends Imperial to put the good of the Empire/Remnant ahead of her own power. As silly as her run at GA leadership was, I think the conflict between her, the Jedi and the comedically long list of people plotting against her was neat. And the Imperial Remnant Election of 44(?)ABY is one of my favorite moments from Legends, just because of how absurd the idea of Imperial elections are.
@EckhartsLadder
@EckhartsLadder 4 жыл бұрын
Agreed, the election plotline, with no one ready or familiar with democracy, was hilarious.
@kgfalcon9394
@kgfalcon9394 4 жыл бұрын
Long live the Fel Empire!
@TheWingland
@TheWingland 4 жыл бұрын
What would have happened if UNSC had defeated he covenant forces and captured the forerunner fleet in Halo Wars instead of destroying the ships?. #askeck
@robertnelson9599
@robertnelson9599 4 жыл бұрын
Then the Covenant never would have destroyed so many human colonies, the UNSC would have reverse-engineered a ton of Forerunner tech, thus advancing themselves far quicker, and the Flood may never have been released.
@hardcase722
@hardcase722 4 жыл бұрын
I believe that the flood would of been released regardless because the Spirit of Fire already had left the Pillar of Autumn to its fate at Arcadia. The damage sustained in the battle would of made it need repairs at reach regardless. The. The covenant invaded making it flee, making random jumps and by chance make it to Halo having the covenant follow and they would discover the flood then. So in essence if cutter wasn’t such a cuck and went after sanders the pillar would of never taken as much damage making it need such repairs as to go plannetside.
@CedarHunt
@CedarHunt 4 жыл бұрын
The battle of Arcadia was in 2531, the fall of Reach wasn't until 2552. Pillar of Autumn fought for another 20 years before it fled Reach and ended up at installation 04. Cutters decision to recover Anders had absolutely nothing to do with anything regarding how that played out. If the forerunner fleet had been captured by the UNSC then that likely would have ended the human covenant war but we know from Halo 3 that the flood had already broken containment at installation 05 and would have found a way into the wider galaxy eventually.
@MrGoesBoom
@MrGoesBoom 4 жыл бұрын
Damn shame Palleon ( sp? ) was assassinated, always likes his character. Way better leader for the Empire than Papa Palpatine, Tarkin, or Daala any day IMO.
@chrissonofpear1384
@chrissonofpear1384 4 жыл бұрын
(pell-aeon)
@MrGoesBoom
@MrGoesBoom 4 жыл бұрын
@@chrissonofpear1384 Thanks, been forever since I read the books so couldn't remember
@lordfrostwind3151
@lordfrostwind3151 4 жыл бұрын
I hope he make a it to the new canon, he really did a lot to humanize the Imperial faction.
@squadie1
@squadie1 4 жыл бұрын
Lord Frostwind have you watched rebels ?
@awommack1994
@awommack1994 4 жыл бұрын
@@lordfrostwind3151 Indeed, he represented the ideals of the Empire as most of its citizens saw it and the Remnant reflected that heavily after he took over.
@noneed4me2n7
@noneed4me2n7 4 жыл бұрын
Read every EU legends book and while I mostly ignore Disney canon content I love when you talk about EU stuff. Jacen Solo is a favorite and I feel his story is so compelling and tragic.
@joefield8078
@joefield8078 4 жыл бұрын
Disney cannon is HERESY!
@justinjeffries1554
@justinjeffries1554 4 жыл бұрын
Disney canon books are pretty good though
@kgfalcon9394
@kgfalcon9394 4 жыл бұрын
I've read almost all of legends and the moment they killed Anakin Solo I knew the effects were going to create amazing stories and I wasn't disappointed. Nothing in Canon has any development in comparison
@justinjeffries1554
@justinjeffries1554 4 жыл бұрын
@@kgfalcon9394 That's because New Canon is stuck in that "the main new movies aren't over so we can't tell any super reaching stories until we know how this one is over" phase. Once the saga is over we'll get more stuff
@dansmith7131
@dansmith7131 4 жыл бұрын
@@justinjeffries1554 I see what you're saying, but I don't think Disney will do that. They'll focus on what makes money, which are characters that people know. They won't create new characters like Thrawn, Corran Horn, Talon Karrde, and Mara Jade were in the 90's. They also won't take any risks like NJO did in killing off main characters for example.
@Martian2607
@Martian2607 4 жыл бұрын
I need the battle breakdown of Gondor because I heard a lot of crazy stuff happens during it!
@DerpyPenguin4747
@DerpyPenguin4747 4 жыл бұрын
Gondor calls for aid!
@talistrahan6374
@talistrahan6374 4 жыл бұрын
Wait, Gondor or Fondor?
@hUCK-
@hUCK- 4 жыл бұрын
@@talistrahan6374 l e l
@talistrahan6374
@talistrahan6374 4 жыл бұрын
No, no, I'm seriously asking lol!
@hUCK-
@hUCK- 4 жыл бұрын
@@talistrahan6374 He' a ' Make ' a ' Funny
@3xecutor338
@3xecutor338 4 жыл бұрын
I like to imagine in my head cannon it was Daala’s SD that we see coming out of the Maw “fog” in the Solo Kessel Run movie scene.
@calebpayne2384
@calebpayne2384 4 жыл бұрын
Are you going to make anymore battle of the dreadnoughts type videos?
@gmann1968
@gmann1968 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I'd like to see more animations as well. Can't get enough of seeing the imagination realized in such a spectacular way. Please like Caleb's comment if you agree!
@EckhartsLadder
@EckhartsLadder 4 жыл бұрын
Yep
@elbrando5557
@elbrando5557 4 жыл бұрын
EckhartsLadder Please make one that’s clone wars era 🥺🥺🥺
@elbrando5557
@elbrando5557 4 жыл бұрын
Or more than one ofc 😏
@strikeflyer
@strikeflyer 4 жыл бұрын
I read all of Legacy of the force books. It was confusing at some points, such as the Second galactic civil war (which was a very VERY confusing conflict). But it was a decent story, and Ben Skywalker was my favorite main character in the books. I also hated Lumiya and how she manipulated Jacen to fall to the dark side, she wasn't a bad villain, but I hated her actions and was glad Luke that killed her on Terephon.
@scott7173
@scott7173 4 жыл бұрын
I would love to see a breakdown of the the battle of fondor
@Arashmickey
@Arashmickey 4 жыл бұрын
The Jedi Academy trilogy was hit-and-miss for me, but most of the stuff about the Maw and Kessel was pretty good and a good fit for early Star Wars canon.
@chrissonofpear1384
@chrissonofpear1384 4 жыл бұрын
And nicely referenced into Solo, as well. Plus, explored further in the Han Solo trilogy books.
@InventorZahran
@InventorZahran 4 жыл бұрын
Darth Caedus is so much more interesting than Kylo Ren!
@scottlloyd9762
@scottlloyd9762 4 жыл бұрын
Hell stormtrooper #18 is more interesting than Ren.
@keatonburton6064
@keatonburton6064 4 жыл бұрын
I think Elan Sleazebaggano is FAR more interesting than the massive, rotten, stinking shit pile that is the entire Disney Canon. SUCK IT, HOUSE OF MOUSE!!!
@timbartschwolfman
@timbartschwolfman 4 жыл бұрын
#AskEck What did Palpatine think about the people of Coruscant during the time of the Empire?
@chrissonofpear1384
@chrissonofpear1384 4 жыл бұрын
Useful dupes...
@princeofpokemon2934
@princeofpokemon2934 4 жыл бұрын
How confusing was the battle of Fondor, on a scale of one to ten?
@ToastGamingNCrew
@ToastGamingNCrew 4 жыл бұрын
ItS a TrAp!!!
@heavyarms55
@heavyarms55 4 жыл бұрын
Less that it was confusing and more that everyone betrays everyone else at least twice.
@pretzelbomb6105
@pretzelbomb6105 4 жыл бұрын
7.527301
@princeofpokemon2934
@princeofpokemon2934 4 жыл бұрын
@@ToastGamingNCrew I'm glad you're a fan of Admiral Ackbar.
@princeofpokemon2934
@princeofpokemon2934 4 жыл бұрын
@@pretzelbomb6105 make it more simple please. Because I'm horrible at math.
@kgfalcon9394
@kgfalcon9394 4 жыл бұрын
I still think one of the greatest losses when legends was killed was not seeing the jagged fel/jaina solo empire evolve into what it was in the legacy comics
@junmadine2000
@junmadine2000 4 жыл бұрын
Your battle breakdowns are my favorite content you make. Would love to see more from any era of star wars.
@OutlawTwilight
@OutlawTwilight 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for using the best text from that particular novel to describe the Maw Irregular Fleet at the Battle of Condor.
@derrickdinwiddie8759
@derrickdinwiddie8759 4 жыл бұрын
Fondor battle breakdown sounds awesome!
@ThatOneCoconut
@ThatOneCoconut 4 жыл бұрын
I love your legends content. Keep it up
@revangofficial
@revangofficial 4 жыл бұрын
I love videos like these. Keep ‘em up!
@MrSoiree
@MrSoiree 4 жыл бұрын
Interesting info on the Maw fleet. The books around the Maw I found very fun to read. I love the space ship side of Star Wars.
@thebaccathatchews
@thebaccathatchews 4 жыл бұрын
#AskEck Which Halo ship--any faction--would best fit in the Star Wars Universe?
@ToastGamingNCrew
@ToastGamingNCrew 4 жыл бұрын
probably forerunner or alien ships if anything, although i could see some UNSC ships being a mercenary vessel
@brambo3011
@brambo3011 4 жыл бұрын
4:12 When Eck began narrating Daala's entrance into the battle I got chills (ik it's partially excerpts from the book), it gave me a thrilling Episode IX vibe, a hope that there are at least some old capital ships like a Venator or Mon Cal or something for the Resistance to fight with besides frigate and corvette-class vessels. I mean how cool would it be to have a scene like the one in the recent teaser where the Resistance has some ancient capital ships or pirate ships, or some rag-tag capital fleet to fight the good fight? Idk, it may not happen that way, but damn would it be cool! Ecks great narration also makes me really want to get into legends books now Loved the vid Eck, & I would love a battle-breakdown for Fondor, more battle breakdowns is always great imo!
@kostakatsoulis2922
@kostakatsoulis2922 4 жыл бұрын
Please do the battle breakdown I love those SO MUCH.
@liaml.e.5964
@liaml.e.5964 4 жыл бұрын
Yes please! I've never fully understood the battle of Fondor and I'd love to see a decent breakdown.
@TheJedaiHero9000
@TheJedaiHero9000 4 жыл бұрын
Really liked and enjoyed watching this. If you haven't already, talk about the Doomgiver from Jedi Outcast game, please and thank you.
@Wastydest
@Wastydest 4 жыл бұрын
Please do a video about Jagged Fell and the Fell Dynasty!
@TheWingland
@TheWingland 4 жыл бұрын
Vs matchup Brute or Brute chieftain from Halo vs A Predator from the Predator franchise. With 2 rounds First round unarmed and unarmored. Second round fully armed and armored
@samsoren3684
@samsoren3684 4 жыл бұрын
Fondor battle breakdown! I would love that
@Mikeg_-hc7hv
@Mikeg_-hc7hv 4 жыл бұрын
I love all of your battle breakdowns. DO IT *palp voice*
@ryancarrell3186
@ryancarrell3186 4 жыл бұрын
Man, the Chimera and a Venator going out in a blaze of glory years after both of them are out of date is so cool
@CoAndCoLaptopAccount
@CoAndCoLaptopAccount 4 жыл бұрын
I would love you to start doing a character bio series talking about characters (like daala) and their history.
@johncipriano3627
@johncipriano3627 4 жыл бұрын
Great video
@jakeromm8943
@jakeromm8943 4 жыл бұрын
Great vid iv always been curious aboud the make-up of the maw irregular fleet and on a side note id love to see a break down of the battle of fondor and although it might work better as a mini series a deep dive into natassi dallas history in star wars legends but either way keep up the awesome work
@aaronabdo6637
@aaronabdo6637 4 жыл бұрын
Of course we want the Fondor breakdown!
@RandoComand0
@RandoComand0 4 жыл бұрын
Battle of fondor!!!! Sounds great!
@inertloki5193
@inertloki5193 4 жыл бұрын
Definitely do a battle break down please:)
@gcarrlifecorp
@gcarrlifecorp 4 жыл бұрын
We definitely want the breakdown!!!
@magosmarechferracioli1128
@magosmarechferracioli1128 4 жыл бұрын
Dala: Has the Chimera, one of if not the most famous Star Destroy in the galaxy. Also Dala: *Y E E T*
@lightspeedvictory
@lightspeedvictory 4 жыл бұрын
When did Luke begin to rebuild the Jedi Order? I definitely know he started before his retirement from the New Republic military as he tried recruiting Corran Horn after the liberation of Coruscant and just before the Bacta Wars and there were some Jedi around during the Dark Empire crisis but that just seems like a drop in the bucket... (plz respond with an answer regarding lore and not in xyz and abc books) #askeck Video suggestion/request: X-83 Twintail vs. Tie Defender (Legends) A thorough analysis/breakdown/explanation of post-Endor Tie models
@chrissonofpear1384
@chrissonofpear1384 4 жыл бұрын
Pretty much right from the start, but until Kyle Katarn and Corran, he didn't meet many candidates. There was Flint and Kiro, in the old Marvel comics though, earlier on. But Flint betrayed him.
@Keihryon
@Keihryon 4 жыл бұрын
He didn't start the Praxeum until just after the events of Dark Empire.
@40kthrawn30
@40kthrawn30 4 жыл бұрын
I know you said you didnt want to but would love to see this battle breakdown plz eck
@ArcticHawk2003
@ArcticHawk2003 4 жыл бұрын
Keep up the great work! Feel like a little kid again!
@lla361
@lla361 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you!!!
@scribbles7204
@scribbles7204 4 жыл бұрын
Yes to breakdown of Fondor
@LtDavidB312
@LtDavidB312 4 жыл бұрын
I’d totally be down for a video of the confusing Battle of Fondor. ...Then again, I’m not the one dissecting, analyzing, and explaining it. You are a glorious glutton for punishment, sir!
@epicfail9271
@epicfail9271 4 жыл бұрын
Full breakdown of the battle of fondor!
@JarrisGames
@JarrisGames 4 жыл бұрын
Would love a fondor breakdown xx
@shpaedy9385
@shpaedy9385 4 жыл бұрын
Who would win One state of the arc super star destroyer Or one A-Wing boi
@UncleMike14
@UncleMike14 4 жыл бұрын
The asian space terrorist takes it 9 times out of 10
@chrissonofpear1384
@chrissonofpear1384 4 жыл бұрын
With a little cruiser support...
@Arashmickey
@Arashmickey 4 жыл бұрын
intensify forward fire power, lest they swiggity swooty on through
@mylesmcarthur642
@mylesmcarthur642 4 жыл бұрын
You forgot the SSD had no shields left.
@chrissonofpear1384
@chrissonofpear1384 4 жыл бұрын
Not around the bridge any longer, yes. In fact, the model does show MORE than two 'shield generator domes' upon the surface of the Executor, with more mounted below the tower, and two behind it. But the shields had already been weakened or fallen (which means small arms fire could even hit the domes) before they are destroyed.
@kumardias9348
@kumardias9348 4 жыл бұрын
Would love to see a full battle breakdown of it
@teamredshirt
@teamredshirt 4 жыл бұрын
I’m not kidding, when the Chimera popped out of hyperspace on a Collision course with the Anakin Solo during the Battle of Fondor, I cheered my ass off. I cheered a bit even hearing you reading it, though my dude, you gotta put some feeling into epicness like that, otherwise it becomes a bit difficult to know when you are quoting or just being your eloquent self.
@sayvionwashington1939
@sayvionwashington1939 4 жыл бұрын
Pellaeon: Okay, we're finally getting the Empire back on the right tra- *Daala busts down the door* Daala: Guess who's back to run the Empire? Pellaeon: Aw shit! Here we go again!
@woswosa4064
@woswosa4064 4 жыл бұрын
MiaaaaaaauW --> another great video Eckhartsladder
@LoneWolf20213
@LoneWolf20213 4 жыл бұрын
#askeck why didn’t we see more remodeled CIS ships and vehicles in the rebel alliance, even if its in small numbers, it should have been noticeable at least
@magosmarechferracioli1128
@magosmarechferracioli1128 4 жыл бұрын
I always figured it was for two primary reasons. 1. The C.I.S. ships had an extremely negative connotation to them. The galaxy saw them as a sign of evil and as such would be near suicidal in a political sense. 2. The C.I.S. ships were not designed to be fast, instead acting as ships-of-the-line. The Alliance needed fast, maneuverable, not slow and powerful. The Recusant is really the only ship in the fleet, barring corvettes and light frigates, that can fill that role. What's mote, keeping those ships up to date would be a challenge. The Munificent was already out of its element in the Clone Wars, being a patrol ship and freighter first, and while it can be quickly and easily refitted with new weapons, the Providence and Lucrehulk would take time. By the time the Alliance became the New Republic and had the means to refit these old juggernauts, better alternatives were found. The Confederate Navy was a slapped together affair that just so happened to be really powerful due to diversity. The Lucrehulk, Recusant, Munificent, and maybe the Providence (I remember reading somewhere that the Providence was originally supposed to be a cruise-liner to rival their Mon Cala rival's creations, but was pressed into service by the Confederacy. It was coincidence that the ship was so effective at war) were not purpose built warships.
@LoneWolf20213
@LoneWolf20213 4 жыл бұрын
@@magosmarechferracioli1128 true, but still, these ship's were powerful, needed little crew, are battle-proven, and shown to be well-armed for there size, so I still say, why not
@magosmarechferracioli1128
@magosmarechferracioli1128 4 жыл бұрын
@@LoneWolf20213 The issue, again, comes down to how the Rebellion fights. Hit-and-run and rapid movement. The C.I.S. mainline ships aren't designed for that purpose. They aren't fast, barring the aforementioned Recusant, or maneuverable. What's more, propaganda. Palpatine was smart, albeit unintentionally, in making a vast majority of available ships for a rebellion seen as 'evil' by the galaxy at large.
@LoneWolf20213
@LoneWolf20213 4 жыл бұрын
@@magosmarechferracioli1128 they remodeled many of the ship's and such, also, when you think about it, the CIS were battling to be freed from a corrupt Republic, which has turned into a tyranic empire, I'm sure many would believe after some time that the Rebel's are indeed good, and while the ship's arn't made for hit and run, we know they used the ship's in the past, so all I'm asking is why weren't they used more in magor battle's or as a mobile base, the Lukrehulk is the perfect mobile base in that regard than
@magosmarechferracioli1128
@magosmarechferracioli1128 4 жыл бұрын
@@LoneWolf20213 That is true. The CIS ships were versatile, and many could fit a dozen roles. The issue comes down to the timing and the utility. When the ships would have been the most useful was during the early days of the rebellion, hot on the heels of the Clone Wars. Fear and propaganda were the Empire's business, and the familiar form of a Lucrehulk would be a horrible sight for the denizens of the galaxy. In an ideal galaxy, yes the CIS ships would be dead useful, but the war was far from ideal. The Munificent lacked speed and shields to survive an engagement with Star Destroyers, the Recusant was too large and lacked significant fighter bays, the Lucrehulk is just damn slow and in a pound-to-pound fight would lose to ISDs, especially when a concentrated fleet comes. The Providence has many of the issues of the Recusant, save for its increased armor and weapons. The issue is it lacks the firepower to really compare to the Imperial cruisers. Sure, in time the stigma would be lost, but then would it matter? The Mon Cala cruisers had a strangle hold on the Rebel and New Republic navy for a time, and the Quarren lacked the experience to recreate new warships. Many CIS ships saw use in the fleets of warlords and other factions, but the cost to retrofit them was too much, especially when said ships were expected to fight ISDs. The CIS ships were amazing combatants for a bygone era. They were fighting an entirely different war altogether. As an example, imagine the Nazis using a World War 1 dreadnaught. Even retrofit, would it be any use against a battleship of the second world war? Yes, the CIS ships could serve as support or raiding vessels, but when the big battles come you need to bring your A-game. The Empire didn't bring Victory or Venator-class ships during Endor, they brought the heaviest hitters they could. The Rebellion could only do the same, see the MC series cruisers.
@BrianMartininc
@BrianMartininc 4 жыл бұрын
Good point, good point, I’ll finish it next time. Good point, interesting point - I’ll finish it in another story, 😆😆😆 epic video full of open threads
@gundog39
@gundog39 3 жыл бұрын
This is a perfect example of "just because something is old doesn't mean you throw it away". :)
@macwelch8599
@macwelch8599 4 жыл бұрын
Interesting video
@pubcle
@pubcle 4 жыл бұрын
Legacy of the Force is a favorite of mine. I adore it and wish it would have a movie series. I thought it was an excellent way to bring in all the major characters yet alive and really create a compelling war. I was really, really sad though that Paelleon died, he was always one of my top characters alongside Palpatine, Tarkin, Vader, Thrawn... okay I like almost all the Imperial leaders. The way it tells the fall is so good and understandable, I love seeing the Empire as something other than evil villains. I really love the old EU, it was wild and free to explore, it could expand the universe immensely and while it ran into the occasional contradiction or really dumb flaws it was so wide and varied and surprisingly well connected despite that, even then you could just choose to ignore pieces you didn't like and take on the stories you did. I loved the sheer size of it and the world building. I love everything about the Maw Installation, I think Dalaa should have been much more capable than she was portrayed in the initial assault on the New Republic, the Knight Hammer should have been recovered, keep it a massive threat, but she was still a great character and a great story.
@xXCORRONXx
@xXCORRONXx 4 жыл бұрын
Would love a battle breakdown
@ImagineFragons
@ImagineFragons 4 жыл бұрын
I 100% want a breakdown!
@CommissarTommy22
@CommissarTommy22 4 жыл бұрын
That could be a good idea for a Star Wars video game, you have to build up a fleet of ships from across all the ages and engage in pirate and mercenary tasks to sustain them. Maybe add a chop shop where you find parts of ships and fuse them into Frankenstein creations
@WolfieGreymane
@WolfieGreymane 4 жыл бұрын
Deff wanna see a Battle Breakdown on Fondor
@glennlaroche1524
@glennlaroche1524 4 жыл бұрын
Me: hmmm.....what's on YT? Eck: posts new vid Me:😁
@mattjennings101
@mattjennings101 Жыл бұрын
Yeah what was the rationale behind that appointment? "Hey this warlord has been basically a pirate ever since she tried to murder the galaxies greatest hero and his school. she only helped us as a happy coincidence stemming from personal loyalty to a guy who happened to be on the side of democracy let's make her supreme leader"
@theclonelieutenant5976
@theclonelieutenant5976 4 жыл бұрын
Sir. With all due respect i find it quite electrifying to find old ships still roaring their cannons even after they just like me and my brothers called too old to serve.
@bloodysunday1899
@bloodysunday1899 4 жыл бұрын
I would love a Fondor breakdown
@LuoSon312_G8
@LuoSon312_G8 4 жыл бұрын
It's like see some crazy commander salvage, rebuild, and refit famous WW2 warships. And sending them out to international theaters.
@narri214
@narri214 4 жыл бұрын
I always thought it would be cool to see a SW novel about daala and her faction hiding in the maw and how they where developing / interacting with the Galaxy at large while remaining hidden to all but a few.
@felafnirelek8987
@felafnirelek8987 3 жыл бұрын
I'd love to see some stuff about Legacy, with Cade Skywalker and the One Sithc
@razayousaf2796
@razayousaf2796 4 жыл бұрын
Things in Star Wars Legends tend to get a bit...crazy...after Gilad Pellaeon dies
@magosmarechferracioli1128
@magosmarechferracioli1128 4 жыл бұрын
It's a conspiracy! Pellaeon was the glue that held the galaxy together.
@bandit4153
@bandit4153 4 жыл бұрын
0:33 we were 1 second off from greatness. Why must you do this.
@redtob2119
@redtob2119 4 жыл бұрын
Yes please do the battle of fondor
@IzzYonWheelzz
@IzzYonWheelzz 4 жыл бұрын
I would like more stuff involving Jacen solo because he was my favorite character in legends. A truly frightening man with the power and the will to achieve what he wants. I mean at the end he had one on him and his sister still had to trick him to beat him
@dvazquez5652
@dvazquez5652 4 жыл бұрын
You should do a ship breakdown of the Bothan Assault Ship from the NJO
@kgfalcon9394
@kgfalcon9394 4 жыл бұрын
I agree, it's one of those ships that's brought up as modern and scary good but then fades
@jasonmills8203
@jasonmills8203 4 жыл бұрын
I would like to see the Fondor Battle breakdown. I have not personally read the fate of the Jedi books but I loved the Legacy of the force novels and in fact am re-reading Betrayal.
@hotshotx1598
@hotshotx1598 4 жыл бұрын
Gotta do a EAW: Remake battle with the Irregular fleet now Eck
@simonwillis1529
@simonwillis1529 4 жыл бұрын
At last you explained one of the most interesting fleets
@spamviking
@spamviking 4 жыл бұрын
Jedi Search was the second EU novel I ever read, and I bought it mainly because of the pic of Daala on the front. I just had to know more about this Imperial officer.
@KapnKrowe
@KapnKrowe 4 жыл бұрын
Love her or hate her, Daala was spittin straight facts on Tsoss Beacon
@Pingthescribe
@Pingthescribe 4 жыл бұрын
"Doesn't make a whole lot of sense, and I don't want to talk about it" - the Legacy of the Force series in a nutshell. I made it up to Sacrifice and couldn't even open that one! I've had people who defend the series even apologize for Traviss's books in there!
@rhysproudfoot2667
@rhysproudfoot2667 4 жыл бұрын
Full battle breakdown of the battle of Fondor. Pretty please 😁😁😁
@lazarmarkovic9404
@lazarmarkovic9404 4 жыл бұрын
I would like to see more battle breakdown
@THEARMADYLSQUAD
@THEARMADYLSQUAD 4 жыл бұрын
I would like a breakdown of Fondor as well
@ArK047
@ArK047 4 жыл бұрын
See Pellaeon's long service off with a Battle of Fondor dissection!
@joshuacanales6419
@joshuacanales6419 3 жыл бұрын
Please do a battle breakdown of the battle of fondor during the second Galactic Civil War as well as the battle of Kashyyyk during the second Civil War as well please
@ajcox6549
@ajcox6549 2 жыл бұрын
I once again request a battle breakdown of the NJO's Battle of Ebaq IX from Destiny's Way
@michaelswainjr.9090
@michaelswainjr.9090 4 жыл бұрын
The End of [now] Legends era was messy is an understatement
@UncleMikeDrop
@UncleMikeDrop 4 жыл бұрын
Regardless of faction affiliation, it's always nice to see military leaders in Star Wars actually learn from their mistakes and innovate. The Maw Irregular Fleet is emblematic of both.
@jejeakle
@jejeakle 4 жыл бұрын
Can you do a whole video on the Jedi academy trilogy? It’s really good
@lucbisaillon2609
@lucbisaillon2609 4 жыл бұрын
For a Fondor battle breakdown!
@forthencholordofadmirals2763
@forthencholordofadmirals2763 4 жыл бұрын
Reading the NJO series working my way to LOTF and FOTJ
@farooqali8142
@farooqali8142 4 жыл бұрын
Eckharts please do a battle of fondor
@erwanviel5884
@erwanviel5884 4 жыл бұрын
Timestamp : 4:19 Me: We were on the verge of greatness, we were this close
@hanzotherazor1995
@hanzotherazor1995 4 жыл бұрын
Tarkin had a lover?!?! I took him as a pay for it kind of guy. Not for Hookers but S&M type stuff. Tarkin speaking “ Now grab my Death Stars! “
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