The Moment Vader Admitted Obi-Wan Could Defeat him a SECOND Time During Episode 4! (Legends)

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The Non-Canon Expert looks at Darth Vader's long history in regards to his desire for vengeance against his former friend and Master Obi-Wan Kenobi, but then focusing on Darth Vader's true thoughts during his second duel with the Jedi Master, explaining the doubt Vader had behind any potential rematch.
This is a Legends story for Darth Vader and Jedi Master Obi-Wan Kenobi with information found in a number of Legends sources, but particularly within the Legends novels "Star Wars: Death Star," "Star Wars: The Rise and Fall of Darth Vader," and "Star Wars: Dark Lord: The Rise of Darth Vader," as well as the Legends comic "Star Wars: Purge." I hope that you enjoy it!
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[@noob1saibot2]

Darth Vader won because his robot legs made him taller so he would naturally have the high ground above obi wan

[@SanchezS1998]

Noob Saibot it’s not just design... *It’s a feature*

[@Badookum]

@@SanchezS1998 are you related to Rick sanchez by any chance? lol

[@dantealfred7181]

but he was always taller than obi wan???

[@amirj5232]

Obi wan always has the high ground. *Always*

[@SanchezS1998]

Mustace Emoji No, but you’re not the first person to ask 😜

[@hexmaster23]

How Obi Wan could have easily triggered Vader: Obi Wan: “A Sith APPRENTICE? Even as a Sith you could never reach the rank of Master, Anakin.”

[@Magneekic]

Lol

[@TALKINGtac0]

And then he should have said "Fine, i'll let you strike me down so you can stop crying about it." Before standing still. Then Vader would have said "Well now it's no fun..." and Obi Wan would have lived.

[@wiselychosenname2867]

He is a master tho A master at getting caught

[@kpingvin]

[@mcthrull7417]

That would make him kill palpatine and then he'll say who's the master now obi wan? Then they successfully defeated palpatine without actually killing him directly and they can just team up on vader next

[@TSPH1992]

Little did Darth Vader know that Obi would troll him as a Force Ghost after death

[@sowmithrigadiraju2672]

Nice, black flash

[@Sandwich13455]

Tickling him at night, stopping him sleeping.

[@BJETNT]

Please tell me what trolling means?

[@madness3x8]

BJETNT basically internet slang for pranking or telling lies for laughs

[@BJETNT]

@@madness3x8 man thank you very much I'm not kidding!!! I tried looking it up and that's not the answer I got but that makes total sense now. Thank you for taking the time to answer and happy New year

[@victorbruant389]

Vader just can't compete with Obi Wan's level of being civilized

[@1beatcher]

And the ways of the high ground.

[@gaijinspice6984]

Hello there

[@victorbruant389]

@@gaijinspice6984 General Kenobi!

[@dametriw]

Civility*

[@KwabzModding]

Or his level of Democracy.

[@macwelch8599]

I’ll bet Darth Vader was surprised when Obi-wan let him strike him down

[@Lemontarts01]

He was, its no secret. In fact he shit himself

[@SkinnerNoah]

I bet he was kind of worried for the next few hours though. For all he knew, he could be attacked by a teleporting naked Jedi at any moment

[@josephburchanowski4636]

@@SkinnerNoah Hello there.

[@DillonM-mc6yw]

Floyd Money Mayweather 50-0 GOAT I definitely remember reading that quote directly

[@kwarrior2895]

@@SkinnerNoah Imagine Obi Wan force ghost deepthroating Vader and Palpatine walks like WTF!!! Or he is on the halogram and he humiliates Vader when he is giving annoucements and the officers start laughing at him.

[@darylsdesigns6679]

“I’ve been waiting for you, Obi-Wan. We meet again at last. The circle is now complete. When I left you, I was but the learner. Now I am the master.”

[@CaptiveReefSystems]

"Only a master of evil, Darth!"

[@Des7p]

J. Gona clash

[@LoveShaysloco]

@@CaptiveReefSystems by striking me down I shall become more powerful then you can possibly imagine

[@popbottles229]

Only a master at getting caught

[@moblinmajorgeneral]

"Your powers are weak, old man!"

[@THUNDERxX45]

In the legends, the Death Star was on a slight axis allowing vader to be standing slightly above ben. Ben, naturally, realized vader had the high ground and let vader strike him down, purely out of respect for the high ground.

[@kwarrior2895]

Height of individual does not = high ground. High ground = elevated ground. Obi Wan let Vader win to troll him as if to say you will always be a noob I never died and I am much more powerful literally immortal and live in a "higher" 😉 plane.

[@papapapa2856]

@@kwarrior2895 can't you read? Vader was on elevated ground during the fight because of the death stars angle. That's what the legends say anyway

[@blew9964]

Lmaoooo

[@jetflyer62901]

Kanwadyo Pinho I don't think that is why Obi-Wan really let him win.

[@tatern3923]

@@papapapa2856 LOL that's like arguing on a flat surface of earth you are "above" someone else because of the earth's slight axis....that's not how it works.

[@wakjob961]

And in the end, he beat up a old tired man...that basically gave up. Satisfaction denied.

[@DarthVader1977]

an* old

[@IAM-yj6xr]

Obi Wan let Vader kill him, so..

[@kwarrior2895]

@@IAM-yj6xr I know right it is like the biggest fuck you because he never actually died. Vader just made him immortal.

[@AkiraHisyamHobbiezz]

not gave up,obi wan knew his time is up,so he let vader strike him.

[@zicc616]

And on top of that Vader didn’t even hit him lol he disappeared before the strike hits.

[@East_Coast_Toasty_Boy]

"knew the tactics used by Obi-Wan and adjusted accordingly" I'm going to fight him in the hallway where there's no high ground, perfect.

[@erectilehydra7403]

Cant get no high ground on even ground

[@petrmiros9908]

Ashoka: "What is the height of stupidy master?" Obi Wan: "Im not sure. Anakin, how tall are you?" No wonder he was so motivated to kill him.

[@SonicSega0964]

*Stupidity. On an unrelated note, how tall are you? 😂

[@Dina-qk4qk]

@@SonicSega0964 um

[@genki2705]

🤣🤣🤣😂😂

[@Gameguy-gk8lx]

Even Vader must acknowledge the power of the High Ground!

[@Matihood1]

The high ground was a metaphor for superior tactics all along.

[@jbellflower83]

I recently watched fictional fight commentary of their fight on the auralnauts youtube channel and the one kept talking about how anakin's overconfidence allowed obi-wan to lead him from spot to spot until an opening presented itself. Even though it was a comical bit the points made were actually good. Anakin was reckless and overconfident in his abilities and ow just played defense and waited.

[@rockaloud06]

I love how often you repeat the same thing, but with different words every time

[@DarthVader1977]

Listen to Scotty Kilmer

[@AftermaThXCVII]

@@DarthVader1977 nice to see another Scotty fan on a different part of youtube

[@Propofol001]

Darth Vader ayeeee didn’t expect to hear about Scotty on a Star Wars channel. Nothing better than listening to this in a Toyota waving your arms non stop while talking lol

[@Soldier-wi8ps]

Bro stop that. This guy is TEN TIMES MORE WORTH LISTENING TO THAN FUCKING STUPDENDOUS WAVE! Jesus Christ THAT GUY, LITERALLY says the same thing over and over but reworded. This channel is sooooooo worth following. Never ceases to amaze me when it comes to lore. ❤

[@monkey.brains]

its kind of his shtick

[@TriscoG]

Imagine if there was a pedestal and ben stepped on it. Vader would have froze in fear!

[@justashitposter9372]

force P U S H

[@fumarc4501]

Obi Wan had one final lesson to teach Vader, and Luke had to see what he was up against.

[@MrZackavelli]

Obi-Wan never taught Vader anything.

[@somethingseismic7937]

Selling High Ground and sand bags! Works 100% against angry Vaders!

[@trajic9204]

@Leon He I think you want to go home and rethink your life.

[@trajic9204]

@Leon He I'd R/woosh you but nah.

[@Soldier-wi8ps]

I bid 100,000 Republic Credits!

[@OGDoomGuy]

I bet during their fight, Darth Vader was like "Good there's no high ground".

[@1beatcher]

And when Vader was stomping on Ben's robe after he killed him, he was thinking "who has the high ground now."

[@JohnDoe-vn1we]

Lame played out meme.

[@Alarcj7]

Obi-Wan's ghost: *Starts floating in the air* "I am the High Ground"

[@Lemuel928]

This is even ground now.

[@unknownalsounknown4238]

I disliked so it would become 66

[@eu-qu6kr]

hey i am a star wars fan from kosovo eastren europe i love hering and watching these episodes it really helped me to understand the star wars universe i hope for all the best and HAPPY NEW YEAR

[@starwarsreadingclub]

Thank you for watching, and you as well! I really appreciate it and it is awesome to hear that you are enjoying them.

[@eu-qu6kr]

@@starwarsreadingclub thank you so muchhh

[@oddadicion4393]

O Shqipje 🇽🇰🇦🇱

[@eu-qu6kr]

@@oddadicion4393 o nenqim breee

[@yetigriff]

Kosovo isn't eastern Europe. It's southern Europe. Also Kosovo is Serbia.

[@marzdaalien5144]

“So there we have it!” Me:😪

[@marzdaalien5144]

Dang that last part 😳

[@kys125]

@@marzdaalien5144 Yeah he shook it up for this one bruh!!! 😮

[@marzdaalien5144]

I literally paused it to type the first comment then played it again and finished and had to type again lmaooo

[@DarrelsWonderland]

Another happy landing!

[@roigergoololo3966]

...was that of his robes after Vader struck him down.

[@Mtab2260]

Man obi wan’s enemy’s always living off of their hate of him jeez

[@KwabzModding]

He is the biggest troll in star wars with the highest sith Maiming count.

[@mykellederickpalad7883]

His lightsaber style is basically the highest level of trolling

[@dariusfarrel3228]

Literally everyone that obi wan faced at least wanted to kill Kenobi the most, because kenobi is just the master of trolling

[@sebahlechuga264]

@@dariusfarrel3228 well dooku trashes obi wan so bad lol

[@feralcyborggaming1531]

For Obi-Wan being that dangerous. You're welcome.

[@_Dovar_]

I miss these simple days of reading old Star Wars books. Years after "Revenge of the Sith", years before the dark times, before Disney...

[@sciencefliestothemoon2305]

A more civilized read, from a more civilized time.

[@unrestrictedcoconut4386]

Ngl I'm not counting the Disney trilogy as canon, to me it just doesn't make sense in the universe or with the characters

[@israelarellano8335]

Prequels were ass. Disney sequels were ass.7/9 of the main movies are ass

[@gershomtan5879]

Israel Arellano compared to the sequels the prequels were classics.

[@Mecha82]

@@unrestrictedcoconut4386 You are so blinded by your hate.

[@CaptiveReefSystems]

Man! That Emperor is one handsome dude!

[@cvo7617]

Lol

[@zazahaver]

I'd fuck him

[@blackpowerdiva4958]

😂🤪

[@hajka7887]

DEW IT

[@00yiggdrasill00]

It really is an amazing moment. Vader walks away thinking he won, and in his narrow view he did, but obi-wan accomplished every goal he had on the death star and beyond. The jedi had changed and the sith didn't see it coming.

[@Smoothalcoholic]

Vader was confused Because he felt thAt ben was still There but There was only a robe and a lightsaber…

[@Twiggy_00]

I love the way you word things. Even when you repeat things you do it in a satisfying way or changing it and adding necessary info. The ending was also hilarious 😂

[@moviereviews541]

"If you strike me down I shall become more powerful than you can possibly imagine!" . . . Way to go Vader! Obi Wan has the high ground for eternity now! Lol

[@baconpuppy2648]

Isn't anakin also a force ghost?

[@endlessw]

Even in canon as soon as Vader learns Ashoka lived he thought about how she would lead him to Obi-wan.

[@delta2372]

Unpopular opinion but I hate Ashoka and the clone wars

[@217adaptiveperspective]

@@delta2372 random but okay

[@armaniwebb4467]

@@delta2372 hmmm....a surprise but a welcomed one.

[@johnconor8698]

you're a fucking idiot seriously

[@PrinceRevan]

Delta 23 I'm with you. Never liked it. Even though it technically was pre-Disney, all of the events during the show weren't acknowledged during Episode 3, and NEVER COULD HAVE HAPPENED during the Episode 2-3 gap.

[@delgande]

I like the interpretation that vader nerfed himself at mustafar by going completely into the dark side and so not utilizing his light side connection. His connection to the dark side was new and weak and that's how obi wan won

[@gph752]

I absolutely love this video and all the logic seem 100% to me !!! So interesting 🤔

[@supershark_9692]

vader: now i am the master! windu's force ghost: Not yet

[@andrewhinson4323]

This is legitimately the best and most satisfying explanation for the evolution from martial arts mayhem to a more realistic fencing/kendo face off!

[@TheBacknblack92]

It's a great in universe explanation to make up for what was actually technical limitations in our universe. The props used for lightsabers in ANH were extremely fragile and prone to breaking when attempting to film duels. This led to them using a more defensive and slower style of combat

[@christophersandidge8257]

For not knowing he was this dangerous then. Great video.

[@MisterSouji]

If Obi Wan wanted to win, he'd just have to bring a step stool. Portable high ground.

[@RyanTheDark]

My lord uploading another video, I see.

[@branflakes1299]

They say the high ground is a path to many abilities, some considered to be unnatural.

[@whisperwalkful]

Its a path to many natural abilities

[@acesway9583]

Imagine throwing the SAND that came from the HIGH GROUND at Vader. Would you do it?

[@pliskenx51mm83]

Ace Sway. Its what Vader might do after words that would have you regret it.

[@acesway9583]

Plisken X51mm Good point

[@Alarcj7]

Another reason to why is this one of my favourite duels.

[@terrelldurrance652]

I love the remasterd version available...it is awesome!!! The original...where Vader approached Obi wan slowly......is classic if you watch it from the view that Vader KNEW Obiwan damn near killed him in the first duel and worried Obiwan could do it again. Hence, the slow approach.

[@neilmurphy966]

"Their fire has gone out of the universe.." - Tarkin doubting Obi Wan's survival.. "...be the spark that will burn the First Order down" - Poe Dameron, later General, 35 years later... So, the slow burn of reaching out with feelings, hope as well as hatred..

[@armaniwebb4467]

Online clickbate articles be like: "Learn this one trick Vader knows, the JEDI hate him for it"

[@cybersurf5]

Vader could not know during the second duel that the most powerful Sith of them all, Darth Lucas, was capable of time travel and could harness the relatively new force powers of CGI to rewrite Vader’s backstory and make him seem more badass on Mustafar than on the Death Star.

[@Obi-Wan_Kenobi]

I could have always defeated Anakin in Episode IV. We are shown many times that age does not hinder a Force user's fighting ability (as seen with both Count Dooku and Yoda) and I never became weaker on Tatooine as a Jedi's power flows form the Force and you don't need conflict to increase your Force ability. Inner peace, meditation, and morality is all you need and those things are easier to find in a peaceful seclusion vs a time of conflict so my time on Tatooine only helped in this regard. Let's also not forget that Yoda was also in exile and he was still a being fully in tuned with the Force. If Yoda could do this that so could I. I deliberately lost to Vader to teach Luke a lesson, the lesson about not fearing death and overcoming loss. Luke the true evil Vader represented and that in death we often become closer to the Force than we ever were before, that death is nothing to fear and one should not be attached to this life. And perhaps most importantly, it was never my job to kill Vader. That was always Luke's destiny as he was Vader's son and represented the next generation of Jedi. It could only be Luke that both corrected both the mistakes of his father and ushered in a new era of the Jedi that learned from their defeat at the hands of the Sith. Luke would learn form the mistakes of the path to forge a brighter future. It had to him who defeated the Sith to let the Jedi rise once again.

[@Shoesucks]

Obi-Wan Kenobi my man wrote a whole book

[@seanyee7850]

*HELLO THERE*

[@AkiraHisyamHobbiezz]

but obi wan...disney destroyed everything...the mary rey sue is the the bullshit choosen one!! the force betrayed us!!!

[@boulettex1838]

Hasn't Darth Vader become just too strong?

[@cody123mph]

Your powers are weak old man

[@henrikg1388]

"I have the high ground! You cannot win!". 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@CaptainCoolzCT-]

If Old Ben Kenobi used his melee attack on Vader from the episode 3 game, the duel would be over in a second. *_BONK!_*

[@Gor85]

This is great explanation and analysis. Vader had decades to learn his mistakes. He learned his skills from the begining basically. It made him even more powerful and dangerous because of his cybernetics. He gained experience and calmness. Wisdom comes with years. Vader didnt look scared. He was totally in control. And the redemption and prophecy fulfilling had begun. Nice final strike pun.

[@cerromeceo]

Thumbs up if you're about to go watch Darth Vader vs Obi Wan remastered fight after this video

[@DarthVader1977]

you're* about to

[@cerromeceo]

@@DarthVader1977 you not the real Darth Vader. Stop

[@cherrycola4476]

The remastered is garbage.

[@kenshin6804]

Cherry Cola wait what remaster are we talking about?

[@cerromeceo]

@@kenshin6804 youtube it

[@deangentry5080]

How much time elapsed between Obi Wan's final duel with Darth Maul on Tatoine and his final duel with Vader in A New Hope? Also, what was Darth Maul's birth name, and why was he still going by Darth after loosing the Sith apprenticeship? And what did Maul think about Vader and vice versa?

[@Jiron127]

Maul was just going by maul in rebels. It was about 2yrs

[@chuchotheace3126]

I absolutely love how deep Star Wars rly is compared to what ppl might see on the surface

[@mikevasquez1103]

It makes one wonder how differently events would have played out if Obi-Wan had given Vader just one little force push back down into the lava river instead of that "YOU WERE THE CHOSEN ONE!!!" speech.

[@phoenixramirez3961]

I thought about that too my conclusion is he wouldn’t qualify for dark side social security lol

[@thelegendarypancakebutterf9363]

High ground

[@yuothineyesasian]

If not for me.... For having the high ground.

[@badbeardbill9956]

I’ve heard the music in this video in a Macey Dean KSP video

[@michaelverdon7252]

I noticed as vader got older he’s not as impulsive but he’s more calm in a coldly calculating way which is what I assumed he worked on to improve himself in the dark side and as a force user and just to become more powerful I assume he purposely meditated to improve on that and it does make a big difference on him succeeding in his fights and missions and that explains how he’s now successful all the time but before would fail because he would just do things without thinking them through

[@mediacenterpc1]

High Ground!

[@Zarcondeegrissom]

strike him down Vader wanted, he never understood just how profound the techno union anthem ""It's hard to say goodbye (Techno Remix)" would be. The tunes of DJ Wat Tambor live on, lol. Great vid SWRC. B)

[@Bael_KnightMage]

In a way, Vader lost to Obi Wan the second time, too. He never actually got the killing blow. Obi Wan vanished into the force, forever denying Vader his desired vengeance. That, and there weren't any clear signs of Vader having an advantage, with the way they were both fighting with such reservation. I think that denial of vengeance alone defeated Vader.

[@newworldlifemysticmelech]

They fought 3 times since skyealkers fall.. mustafar … kenobi beat him…. And the obiwan series they fought and skywalkers lost again….. the 3rd time on the Death Star it was a draw and obiwan let Vader stick him down .. literally lol

[@ragedice6853]

he had the high ground...

[@DarknetDude]

"Hello, there."

[@NORWOODShadow]

All about that high ground

[@Le_Petomane]

Or Alec Guinness was an old bloke in a one off film, that he hated and couldn't move very well.

[@Ghostmotorfinger]

Living rent-free in Vader's head for 20 years. Is the ultimate troll job by Obi-Wan.

[@egliptor]

Maybe I missed this, didn't Obi wan allow Vader to strike him down? When watching the movie obi wan just stood still saber raised to allow him to strike him down to allow Luke and the mob to escape giving them time and distraction. Even in the image it displays obi wan holding his saber straight up neutrally.

[@MrBiggles53]

With all the grief Darth Maul gave Sidious & Vader over the years, remember how quickly Kenobi took Maul down when he decided to do what was necessary. In stead of waiting Maul out, Kenobi manipulated Maul into using the same attack used to kill Qui Gonn Jinn. In the Episode 4 fight, all Kenobi had to do was distract and delay Vader, which Kenobi did, then resolutely stepped into the Force to guide Luke when Luke needed it the most.

[@SealofPerfection]

Obi Wan's first words to Vader as a Force ghost: "Hello there!"

[@campionedi1764]

For not knowing he was this dangerous!

[@Kvng-_-]

We need a good "Lord" varder video game that would be about his time after the battle on mustafar

[@mtheg7220]

At least youre a master at getting trolled

[@landonletterman831]

Obi Wan's true power was revealed by the fact that his robes, nor his lightsaber, got so much as singed by Vader's lightsaber. Clothes protection! (tutamenes [sp?]- like what Vader uses to catch Han's shots by hand, he's not letting them hit his robot limbs, he's actually using the force to bleed away [most of] the energy harmlessly)

[@denniscleary7580]

Obi wan always get that high ground

[@TripDarlin]

Master had the padwan’s number and always would do.

[@ozmozis6073]

What did Vader do with Obi-Wan's lightsaber after the duel?

[@almostbrazilian24]

This cat talks like an airline stewardess 😂

[@Robert-mi6tn]

Nothing unexpected, as Vader never had the makings of a varsity athlete

[@anoobiscooking1193]

Obi quit like a bozz

[@casteddu6740]

The real difference between the first and the second duel was that in the second there was no High Ground

[@MastaKilla63]

Ha! This was uploaded on my 24th birthday!

[@Parents_of_Twins]

Might have something to do with Obi Wan intentionally letting him win as well. It's funny based on that summation if Vader had found Obi Wan earlier on most likely Obi Wan would have killed him, or left him as just a stump this time in an ants nest. It would have been hilarious if Obi Wan and Vader had a second duel on Hoth and Obi Wan cut off Vader's limbs at the hip and shoulder carved Bob into his chest and left in a river to freeze to death. Then he could have really trolled him on the Death Star. "Well what you think Darth Bob third time lucky?"

[@CiabanItReal]

I left a like for *not knowing he was this dangerous*

[@saiyik9493]

The architectural plans of the Death Star... no sand, no lava and no high grounds...

[@bigdaddytrips6197]

If not for meeeee,eeeee ! For not knowing he was this dangerous

[@ricardopuente7192]

shame these are legends

[@Jessopiun]

THIS HAPPENED 😭😭

[@gianlucaborg195]

I wonder if Obiwan took Vader out.... ironically Palpatine getting a new apprentice if Vader died would mean that Luke would not likely manage to save the Rebels above the moon, Endor, in Return of the Jedi, as this other apprentice would have to be likely killed and Palpatine too, albeit like had little effect on either the space or the terrestrial battle, perhaps though, this other apprentice would help out on Endor or stop the Falcon. Hmmm the faith of the Rebellion becomes most ambiguous then. Keep it up my friend!

[@ahmadag1820]

remeber luke trained and git so much stronger if they trained with yoda how much stronger obi wan would get with his increased knowledge of the force obi wans light saber dueling atrophed due to lack of practice but his knowledge inceased tenfold if him and luke trained with yoda they would have both gotten very strong

[@pepperVenge]

I keep watching these videos. And when I watch them, I watch all the way threw, so may as well subscribe. Also, I like how all his non sequel Trilogy video's get hundreds of thousands of views, and his Sequel Trilogy video's gets only Tens of thousands of Views xD

[@imperialistopinions2276]

Hard to believe how much of a threat Obi-Wan still was

[@MrZedblade]

No wonder he doesn't like sand.

[@NtheHecker]

Vader worried for nothing. No highground this time.

[@screamingindigital1980]

Obi wan lost on purpose like he knew Luke needed a spark in order to go down the hero's journey there's no other way so he sacrificed himself for the better good .Remember instantly he started talking to Luke "run Luke run" .In the end obi wan knew he wanted vaders redemption as well he wanted Anakin back .

[@cana1526]

It’s not about power, it’s how you use it.

[@shadeofshattered3]

I find it funny vader never considered the environment area important for engagement a battle station with a room temperature vs lava planet

[@yes2594]

Thx

[@bust2007]

So Vader not got he’s revenge ... that’s cold

[@apollyonkatastrefia1586]

I like the recently revised scene better

[@Parents_of_Twins]

Anakin was arrogant which is why he failed against Obi Wan and why he failed to obtain the rank of Jedi Master. In truth Anakin was a horrible Jedi but a powerful Force wielder. Anakin did not learn what it meant to be a Jedi.

[@t.j.9745]

The frame @ 0:47 is that the new Padmé or is that just a random jedi?

[@jekhilawrie1455]

A third time u mean

[@trentsmith8523]

yeah I think that there were several reasons why anakin lost to obi wan on mustafar. The first being that obiwan was a master of shinso and could deflect anything anakin could throw at him. The second being that obiwan knew anakin moves which made him easy to predict. The third was anakin relied heavily on the dark side which made him much easier to defeat for obiwan.

[@sergiofernando6870]

Obiwan s light saber was suffering from erectile dysfunction due to his old age😂

[@silverpslm]

I consider when battles involve personal matters, the battle between Obi Wan and Anakin is a great example. Anakin lost not because of his skill, he lost because of his mind. The loss of his wife, the death of the academy. You know his mind wasnt clear. The High Ground was just bait. Constantly being doubted of his power. Obi Wan lost the second time because, regardless of Vader, Luke entered the room. And if Obi Wan struck down Vader a second time, it could have scarred Luke forever. So he accepted defeat.

[@davidvarney418]

Long story short Vader was older, wiser & more experienced the second time. Or in his own words: "When I left you I was but a learner, now I am the master..."

[@ethanvern4600]

Obie wan was still better even at that point but kenobi let him win to inspire Luke

[@sebahlechuga264]

@@ethanvern4600 there is no way in this time vader is way superior