The Most Interesting City I've Ever Read About

[@XumolsTV]

You forgot to mention that Lady of Pain may be a bunch of squirrels in the spiky robe.

[@NertNeverlander]

And it still be the most powerful entity in the entire DnD lol

[@yaelz6043]

​@@NertNeverlandereach squirrel is a very high level wizard.

[@thelegend8570]

@@yaelz6043 Each individual squirrel gets its own turn.

[@yaelz6043]

@@thelegend8570 so that's how she kills so quickly.

[@whade62000]

canon

[@Cubics_Rube]

I think my favorite story of the Lady of Pain is from Spoony (back from his "good ol' days") If you piss of the Lady of Pain enough, and you are unlucky enough that she(?) does not kill you outright, then she will "maze" you instead. It's what Runesmith describes at 3:17 - an infinite demiplane where you will stay forever, or until you have learnt your lesson, which can be for almost forever. It's not a hedge-maze but it can be, and if the Lady is feeling fair, she might just put an exit in there somewhere. You don't need to eat or drink there, you don't need to sleep, it's pretty much a forever prison. Anyway Spoony told a story of some guy, who really wanted to stick it to the Lady for some reason, and be the first who escaped a maze, probably since she doesn't have a statblock and thus untouchable. So he brought a Minotaur, because they "always know the way out of mazes". And he brought it with the sole purpose of 1.) Pissing of the Lady of Pain. 2.) Get mazed 3.) Get right out like "yo whatup?" Anyway, he succeeded and got "mazed", and he indeed knew where the exit is... at the end of an insanely long, featureless, blank, grey and dark hallway... which was the entire demiplane. Never piss off the Lady of Pain, kids. She might be neutral, but she does have a _sharp_ sense of humor.

[@MasterZebulin]

Haha, I remember that story. God, I miss Spoony. ☹️

[@Bob-lr2xp]

Spoony was how I first heard of Sigil, as well as most D&D lore like the Blood War.

[@Beepers559]

I can’t help but imagine that if someone peeves her off enough, she skips the maze and straight up tosses them out like that scene from the emperor’s new groove

[@RipOffProductionsLLC]

"Thu stall not fuck with the Lady of Pain" is a great phrase to describe how Sigil's neutrality works.

[@Bob-lr2xp]

@@RipOffProductionsLLC "There is no killing the Lady of Pain. There is no fighting the Lady of Pain. There is no touching the Lady of Pain. If you ever see the Lady of Pain, run as fast as you can, as far away as you can, closing as many doors behind you as you can, and pray you didn't annoy her. The description of the Lady of Pain should have a section about beating her that simply says 'You can't. No, not even if you try that. No, not that either." -Spoony

[@taterenforth6433]

TLDR: You can use either the si-jil or si-gull pronounciation. Essentially, Sigil was called si-jil by everyone except for Zeb Cook, who said si-gull during its development, and that was a simple mispronunciation. The writers thought this was funny and put in a story about some locals killing a visitor to the city because he pronounced it si-jil. So now, according to Zeb Cook, both ways of pronouncing it are the 'official' ways. Which I like since I feel like two sides fighting over how to say a word fits really well into planescape.

[@IrIcHiHaRu]

Thanks! I was one of the people in the last video asking about this in the comments

[@raphezar2049]

This is just the "gif or jif"

[@ZenFr0g]

Sigil with a hard G sound just sounds so dumb. Siggle. Sigil with a J sound, it evokes thought of mystic runes or glyphs.

[@taterenforth6433]

@ZenFr0g I agree, but the hard G does sound more 'alien' to English speakers (or at least to me) so I can see people preferring it.

[@the_original_MPG]

According to the last Ghostfire podcast, the official story is that it was always Sijill (I'm a grognard, I was in high school when the original 2e box set came out, no one called it hard-g). The writer's already got their hard-g-vs-soft-g yucks with the Giff. They need to knock this s--- off... they have pronunciation guides in so many of the 5e supplements, there's no reason they had to change this or introduce some dumb argument point where none need be.

[@andrewnewell1142]

The City of Doors: where you go when you’re in a Jam

[@jaivv247]

What about a jam that's ajar?

[@AW-sx8hm]

Very suitable considering the madame du pain

[@jacobhope6164]

Solid dad joke!

[@Fgway]

All i know is pain

[@philliptivis3082]

That joke sidled up and stabbed me in the kidney.

[@Bob-lr2xp]

One thing you forgot to mention is that the countless portals in Sigil are not always obvious. Literally any doorway in any building can secretly be a portal if certain conditions are met. Maybe it's saying a password, maybe it's having a pulse, maybe it's having a piece of jerky in their back pocket. So a shopkeep could walk into his broom closet, and accidentally portal into the Fire Plane because he was wearing a green shirt.

[@samuelrodriguez9801]

Oh God!

[@itzwizory9556]

This is unnecessarily funny with how specific the conditions can get omd

[@morgothable]

It is worth mentioning, the number of portals in sigil is equal to the number of enclosed spaces. Every arch, every door, every fireplace, every place where there is a piece of cloth hanging over the road and the donut itself is all connected to portals. You just need the correct key to open them. The key could be not knowing something specific, knowing something specific, knowing something general, having the correct item, having trash, feeling something general or specific... etc. I have a trap that i want to use in a future Sigil game. A guy waits for the party, creates a giant startling illusion and the party has to roll for whether or not it surprises them or they manage to keep control. If they are surprised by what is going on, then the portal they are standing in opens and transports them into an encounter on another plane.

[@AndalusianLuis]

I can’t believe he hadn’t played PlaneScape Torment until now!!

[@fraqtl.]

Rent too high, city ignored

[@chrishubbard64]

Ah the ultimate sandbox with infinite random options to choose from and stuff to do. I hope your dm is really good at describing things and making random stuff work. Also I love how the lady of pain is basically the only being in D&D without a stat block. Its just, "If she looks at you, this will happen, if you get her attention this will happen. Saves dont exists here, no munchkinry matters, the only outcome is Pain."

[@Daemonworks]

And in-world, while writers were a bit inconsistent, she's presented as an absolute blank slate. She doesn't seem to be any of the known classes of beings, she has no known needs, there's no known way to please her or otherwise curry favour, and even her most violent displeasure is absolutely cold and perfectly indifferent. There's no arguing with her, no debate, and no defence, but she's also absolutely even handed. If she floats down the road you are on, people will scramble to get out of her way, to avoid her gaze and to avoid gazing on her, but generally they won't all pop like grapes. She doesn't seem to have either compassion or cruelty, seems to acts with purpose rather than whim... but there is no stopping her, there is no explanation and no court of appeal. My preferred interpretation is that she is Sigil itself, alert and capable of defending itself from anything that might risk disrupting the hazy balance of the exact centre of all existence.

[@darienb1127]

​@@Daemonworks The Lady of Pain is just the in lore explanation of "rocks fall, everyone dies."

[@elwoodbrown7005]

I like AJ's description of the Lady as part of a triad of over-gods. AO represents lawfulness (creation), Tharizdun represents chaos (entropy) and the Lady represents neutrality (stability). I ran a planescape game and my lore for Sigil was that is was the last remnant of a previous universe. A demi-plane that is out of phase with the rest of the universe. That is why it can only be accesses thru portals.

[@shagohad3]

AO's only the overgod of forgotten realms so that doesn't really work

[@cut-outclassics8805]

Yeah Primus is a better choice then AO@@shagohad3

[@elwoodbrown7005]

@@shagohad3 if you look at a spelljammer map of the spheres, there are alot of unmapped primes. Who is to say that AO isn't only overseeing realmspace. Who is to say Primus isn't an aspect of AO. Or the other way around. The lore aspects are limitless.

[@shagohad3]

@@elwoodbrown7005 The already established lore. And because gods can't reach across spheres unless they have followers in the new sphere.

[@dylanboczar999]

I feel like you're better saying Io (the parent of the draconic pantheon) is fit for creation, since some of the lore hints that Io created the multiverse.

[@Grab_001]

Love the Mindflayer casually cooking up food at a stall. Some of the most vile and horrid beings in the universe. But that one...they found their true calling. Theyre doing what they love. They dont need the Elder Brain now.

[@Coryn02]

Living their best life. I truly envy them.

[@itzwizory9556]

Wouldn't be the first time a monster found its purpose in shawarma

[@therealdoomsage]

Holy shit he hasn't played planescape: torment. Yeah you're in for a wild ride, buddy.

[@Vyrlokar]

Seriously, Planescape: Torment is such a fantastic game, and while there are newer games that do the "uber deep decision trees that make every action matter and yet let you do whatever you feel like" *cough*Baldur's Gate 3*cough* Planescape: Torment is 23 years old and it's still a referent for this kind of games in my book. It's deliciously weird and really captures the essence of Sigil and the Planescape setting. I hope Runesmith ends up doing multiple playthroughs

[@therealdoomsage]

@@Vyrlokar Couldn't agree more!

[@Kalatash]

Personally, I haven't played it either but I did know about its existence.

[@jonathancummins6234]

never even heard of it before now! Thanks for the rec!

[@therealdoomsage]

@@jonathancummins6234 I hope you like reading, if so you're in for a treat!

[@jonathancampbell5231]

Vecna came closest to defeating the Lady of Pain. He stole the divinity of the demigod Iuz and combined it with his own, which allowed him to become a Greater God, but he delayed his apotheosis and travelled to Sigil so that he could bypass the "no gods" rule and become a Greater God there, which in theory could make him the God of Sigil and the most powerful being in the multiverse. Of course, some pesky adventurers defeated him before that could happen, but he made it out alive before the Lady of Pain could end him (and she actually tried to). There is also a theory that the Lady is actually a prisoner and she's magically compelled to punish anyone who worships her out of fear that if enough people did so, she would be able to break free of her chains.

[@coyoteseattle]

Sigil really is the ultimate city of adventure. I'm glad it's getting some decent attention in 5e. Also glad that people are playing Planescape Torment! It's my favorite CRPG, just because it's so well written. And there's a lot to think about, in it. Even has some good comedy, especially if you have Morte, Nordom, Anna, and Grace in your party; they've all got great random banter.

[@satansbarman]

And there's so much lore in Torment too, hidden everywhere, like learning the history of the Gith with Dak'kon while unlocking spells

[@derpherp1810]

Zoro would perhaps be the worse guide or guard in sigil. He could literally kill anything but couldn't remain within your line of sight even if he wanted too, like he'd just straight up vanish behind anything that would break your line of sight. Zoro is so perpetually confused, he'd even be confused how he even got lost.

[@Grinnar]

Planescape Torment launched at a pivotal moment in my life and left a lasting impression that still influences my personal philosophy and my fictional writing to this day. I actually pre-ordered the game, way back when. Probably the first time I ever did that. I'm so old now.

[@tq3478]

The word is "wizened"

[@satansbarman]

I played it as a teen, back when it was a 4 CD game (huge in those days😅), and now I play it on my tablet. I started playing D&D in the last couple years, and DMing since November, I've run two one-shots directly inspired by Torment, the Modron Cube, complete with Nordom and Evil Wizard construct, and a quest to fetch the decanter of endless water from the catacombs to help Ignus, had Hargrimm, the Silent King, cranium rats and face in the wall. My players loved those adventures so I spread the word about Torment, might be 20+ years old, but still one of the best games ever

[@kjj26k]

Glad to see someone else who thinks Sigil and all its accompaning lore is just...the coolest thing ever.

[@rakjazza3154]

If you look close enough, there are some similarities between Sigil and Ravnica, things you can borrow from both Wards and Precints, from Factions and Guilds. And also from Ankh-Morpork, from the Discworld series. I remember the Ditch everytime Pratchett describes the river, and CMT Dibbler certainly would find himself at home in Sigil too.

[@HeavyTopspin]

If you really want your brain to melt, get hold of the old 2E Planescape books and have a read-through. There's just this amazing combination of silliness, utter insanity, and awesomeness.

[@orokusaki1243]

Can surely get them on drivethrurpg. And it is more than just Sigil and the Outlands, it covers all of the inner and outer planes - Plane-scape, after all.

[@RipOffProductionsLLC]

Oh yeah, old-school Planescape content has that Morrowind energy where you just know the writers were on drugs.

[@satansbarman]

I love that Torment got a mention, it's the game that made me fall in love with Sigil, long before i even knew about D&D 😅

[@georgeuferov1497]

Planescape is the best DnD setting, imo. It has so much lore, I could write a book bigger than all three 5e Planescape books combined

[@bastionsea2829]

I love that Zoro was the 'guide' to help find the portal back. For those wondering, Zoro would get lost in an empty corridor without doors or windows

[@ItsmeInternetStranger]

I absolutely adore Sigil. In my lore, the Dabus are insectoid creatures and are related to the Thri-kreen, who also can't communicate with words and have to draw pictures and stuff. And also, the locals call it "Si-jill" but tell non-locals it's "si-gull" so anyone who actually calls it si-gull is revealed to be an out of town bumpkin who everyone makes fun of. The place is probably one of my favorite locations in all of D&D.

[@Theology.101]

Also, I like the theory from the 3e Demonimicon that AO, the Lady of Pain and Tharizdun have some sort of connection as the three Overgods that are fundamental to the Multiverse itself

[@crowbell3059]

that would cover the 3 moral alignments good would be Ao neutral would me the Lady of pain and evil would be Tharizdun

[@Theology.101]

@@crowbell3059As far as I can remember too, they’re the only three Gods that dont require worship for power. AO simply is, Tharizdun is the inevitable end, and The Lady of Pain has been around to watch it all Plus, Tharizdun made the multiverse when he used the Shard of Infinite Evil to make the Abbys, shattering reality like glass and ensuring he was in each fragment. The Lady of Pain, i suppose, would be the one to link all of the fragments of AO Tharizdun made

[@ronben-ezer8373]

there's no book in 3e called the demonomicon...

[@theenderdestruction2362]

​@Theology.101, then there's the light, which is basically the over boss itself, as if it says something someone does it, if the light tells the lady to the hokey pokey she does it why? Cause the light is basically just the dm, a being of pure good,evil, and neutrality creating and destroying worlds with the same warm and coldness as ever its been around so long no one knows its exstince in the multiverse besides AO himself and he's subservient to it

[@Time_Princess]

Always nice to see people talking about Planscape Torment, such a trip man.

[@MildlyOCD]

One of my DMs before they ghosted us had us start in Sigil. We destroyed half the city by session 2 because the fire Genasi in our party set fire to a bottle of the strongest alcohol in existence.

[@theguys3722]

Now i see Why your dm ghosted you😂

[@ridgetmacaroni7015]

I ran a game in Sigil and my players did smn similar under the Hive when they lit a torch in the sewers lol

[@lucjan1897]

this is daily occurence in Sigil, the districts will birth more buildings to replace the ones burned

[@Beepers559]

So lemme get this straight: You’re in sigil, the genasi (I dunno what that is unfortunately but it sounds like it’s good at setting things on fire) saw a bottle of alcohol so powerful it’s unmatched across the multiverse, and decides to create the planes’ biggest fire and destroyed HALF OF THE CITY. Lady of pain must’ve been real happy with the party for that stunt

[@fall-from-grace1008]

you know, there's a literal fire mage who did that and was turned into a portal to the plane of fire, you can probably visit him in the smouldering corpse bar.

[@jlaw131985]

The Terrasque running into The Lady of Pain would probably be the funniest encounter ever

[@tentacledhorror]

Aoskar didn't try to kill the Lady, he just tried to the over as the God of portals and take over Sigil. The lady killed him with a thought Vecna DID try to kill her when he was amped by a more ancient evil, and she defeated him. She can cause every portal in the city of doors to just stop working. Unlike other gods, she has never had stats published because you can not beat her. There is literally a rule at WotC to never give her stats. Just thinking about fighting her is dangerous. If she wants you dead, you die, it doesn't matter who you are. If Asmodeus and Demogorgon decided to team up and kill her, they'd die. If Chronus broke free of his dream and tried killing her, he'd die. To paraphrase Apocalypse, she is as far beyond the gods as they are beyond mortals. When she sends you to The Mazes, it's not like where squidward went, it's more like the Backrooms. You turn a corner in your home, and suddenly the hall is a lot longer than it was yesterday. You turn around, but the room you just left is gone, replaced with more hallways. Everybody's Maze is different, they don't connect, and you can never leave.

[@zachariahtrench7863]

Ao the OverGod?

[@tentacledhorror]

​@@zachariahtrench7863Aoskar, the God of doors. Though, if Ao tried to usurp the lady, he'd die too. Ao is the overgod, but he's only the overgod of the Forgotten Realms, and he is still just a god

[@flameknightdragon]

@@tentacledhorror and if i am not mistaken the version of the lady you see in most cases is not even her at full power.

[@tentacledhorror]

@@flameknightdragon I'm not sure she has avatars. I'm not saying that she couldn't if she wanted to have them, but I don't think she needs them. She has no worshippers to visit. She doesn't have to go to different worlds. She just watches over her city. When you see the Lady floating above the city streets, I believe that it IS the Lady of Pain.

[@quantummaniac5]

When I was running Strixhaven, my party wanted to do something different for the summer break between semesters, so I let them visit Sigil (where one PC's parents lived and worked as interplaner diplomats) and ran a murder mystery while ripping off characters from so many goddamn books because this is the one place where it actually makes sense for the party to meet characters from everything from Star Wars to Looney Tunes to Terry Pratchett's Discworld.

[@satansbarman]

I'm now picturing Rincewind and Luggage in the Smouldering Corpse chatting to Ignus 😅

[@OgieSifter]

*last session my character asking about the lady of pain showing interest and desire to get all close to the lady of pain all squeeze like* "The worst thing a being could ever do is draw attention of the lady of pain or worse, worship her!" *Gulp*

[@morgothable]

Yup, It is worth mentioning that it isnt just her gaze that cuts you. Her shadow cuts everyone it touches into tiny pieces. Hugging her is at best a quick and painful way to die.

[@Daemonworks]

To be fair, she can choose /not/ to casually liquefy people who, or her casual look around would depopulate entire wards. But yeah... putting the moves on the Lady of Pain is absolutely a way to find yourself rapidly unravelled into soup.

[@kjj26k]

Gotta commit to the bit hombre. Better make a new character in the background real quick like.

[@cypressz]

I seem to recall there was a bard of VERY high charisma that tried to romance her. It didn't work but she seemed less murderously angry than she normally is. I think he still died though, I can't remember where that story came from. I seem to recall her having a line about it being "impossible to be what he wanted." Long story short the Lady of Pain is not your waifu. According to her at least, she literally cannot be.

[@jasonbaker1887]

Sigil and Planescape in general was my favorite Campaign Setting ever I have all the old 2nd ed D&D supplements and modules for it. One of them talked about how there were other factions not mentioned in the main book for it. My favorite of them was the "Opposers". Their entire philosophy was to simply oppose whatever it was that the consensus was for. It had a quote with it that described the Faction as "Because Black is White unless its white in which case it's black, unless you say its black then its white". At least I thinks that's how the quote went.

[@ez_theta_z9317]

a group of people who literally cannot agree. amazing.

[@TheRealMycanthrope]

(Edit:) oh good, he mentioned it ❤ Planescape: Torment is an excellent (though dated) CRPG, if you're interested in a digital visit to Sigil (and other parts of the planes) and a great story, as well as a boatload of great writing, give it a shot.

[@bookbagfox]

Glad to see you’re giving Torment a go, it’s a brilliant game. I recommend that everyone gives it a go if have a decent level of patience for long dialogue, I really recommend it. It explores this city and its cool themes so well. It has a remastered version on Steam & GoG so it’s no hassle to get running.

[@satansbarman]

Also available on playstore, I play it on my tablet

[@shagohad3]

Fun facts about Sigil that I was hoping Runesmith would bring up. First, the events of Die, Vecna, Die!, one of the last 2e modules, has Vecna almost usurp control of Sigil from the Lady of Pain. In his brief stint of semi-control, he permanently altered the multiverse, explaining the rules changes from 2e to 3e. 2nd, if the Lady's shadow falls on you, you are flayed alive and your soul is obliterated. There was exactly one exception to this. A little girl walked into the Lady's shadow and had an actual, full on conversation with her before skipping off into the crowd. No one knows what they talked about. 3rd, the Lady is bound to the city itself. If she ever leaves or assumes her true form, the multiverse would be destroyed.

[@erikgilson1687]

I'm honestly kind of shocked it took Runesmith until this video to find out about Torment

[@Phamtomdark]

Man Planescape: Torment is one of my favorite games; played one or two ttgames in the setting, easily my favorite.

[@superbunnybun]

I always theorized that The Lady of Pain was an exiled dark power from Ravenloft. It's the only other place anywhere in D&D where gods cannot get in. So what if she left Ravenloft and took custody of her own place?

[@orokusaki1243]

There's certainly other ideas that can spring to mind, particularly if you can make your way through the Immortal rules of BECMI edition D&D.

[@SonySteals]

Torment came out way after Baldur’s Gate and it was considered more advanced. Definitely a must play back then.

[@omargerardolunamorales217]

Fun fact, appereantly it si said in some parts of the Lore that The Lady of Pain is Daughter of Io the God of all dragonkind and father of Bahamut and Tiamat, and it's not weird this theory considering that Io is one of the strongest Gods and in general entities of all time with Ao, Annam and Tharizdun and those four Gods that I just have mention (Io, Ao, Annam and Tharizdun) are far more powerful than the Lady of pain. P.S. To be fair the Lady of Pain is just as strong as a normal God, but she has an insane natural power over sigil, that's what makes her that powerful, her power over Sigil.

[@georgeuferov1497]

1:45 - not "the forgotten realms universe", the multiverse as a whole, including the Earth

[@cyborgcatrj6794]

I made a character who was born here. He grew up being the Sigil equivalent of an apprentice dock master. He ended up stowing away on a Githyanki Astral Skiff and hijacking it to go on all kinds of wacky Sci Fi adventures in the Astral Plane.

[@SapphireRose0205]

One of the D&D cookbooks, Heroes' Feast: Flavors of the Multiverse actually has an entire section of recipes purportedly from Sigil, including my favorite, Silverfruit Pie!

[@Daemonworks]

It's core design was "philosophy with clubs" - and both the "social group" and "weapon" meaning of the word club. Each faction is based around a fairly well thought out philosophical position. My favourite, the Bleak Cabal, are nihilists who have come to feel that everything is meaningless - glory, honour, morality, all of it. So they run charities. Because if everything is meaningless only an absolute idiot would make life worse. It's also kind of terrible to run using D&D. It's workable, in a "if all you have is a hammer, all problems are nails" way, but the system just wasn't designed with a setting where your landlady might be a beholder, and the local bartender's a lich. Fate, apocalypse or other narratively- focused systems that care more about flavour work fantastically well.

[@Jgbart1]

Oh my gawd! I've played Torment a lot of times. Fantastic game and truly the one, where having high inteligence and wisdom make You awesome, especially further in game. Masterpiece.

[@monkeibusiness]

I feel like two things deserve a mention about the lady of pain: 1. She probably wasnt always the ruler of Sigil. 2. She almost got overthrown once. Not by that god. He got mazed, still is there probably. Could be a cool plothook.

[@orelyosif5852]

Yo, I was just reading about it! Also, check a guide on how to speedrun becoming a Mage in Planescape: Torment. The game is balanced more towards that role, and most of the cool story elements are hidden there.

[@satansbarman]

As a Mage you want to have decent conversations with Dak'kon and Ignus, both for spells and lore

[@simplyjud9330]

Runesmith you're the best keep it up

[@AW-sx8hm]

Oh sweet I recently thought of planescape torment again and was wondering what you'd think of the setting and the goofy rebus chaps.

[@jtyranus]

I think ogling the Lady's cans might count as worship. . .

[@EnordAreven]

Oh, to hear someone whoes just discovered Planescape Torment for the first tike 😊

[@dillpickle987]

This just reminds me: I can't wait for the new Vecna: Eve of Ruin book to come out! The blurb on the back describes how the adventure takes you to different settings not just including the Forgotten Realms, but also Planescape, Dragonlance, Spelljammer, Eberron, Ravenloft and even Greyhawk! I suspect Planescape in particular plays a big role due to the multiverse-hopping nature of the adventure.

[@shagohad3]

And, because it would be a callback to Die, Vecna, Die. Where Vecna tried to take over Sigil

[@dank_smirk2ndchannel200]

I’m imagining the Lady of Pain being like that one anime where a girl sees ghosts but she has to pretend that she doesn’t or else they’ll kill her.

[@Axiom_Link]

I mean honestly… I love all 3rd party content but the ghostfire gaming creators is all you fucking need. You guys all crush it. 😍

[@TheUglyGoblin]

Aw I've been wanting to cover this book for awhile! (But haven't finished reading the whole book yet @_@)

[@mrsatterday5287]

I know there might not be much lore, but I would kill for you to do a video on the Giff.

[@bryanmerchan773]

This is exactly what I needed to finish a character I was building, thanks!

[@nadie154]

Planescape could be one of the only games where you can complete the entire game without fighting the bosses. just talk and convince them. Or let them kill themselves, or let others do it. Also the true sociopath route is really f'd up

[@Aufsammelkabbler]

Wow, I just got so many inspirations for my next Adventure! Thank you very much, this pace is great!

[@AzraelThanatos]

There is only one place you can't, normally, get to via a portal from Sigil...unless it decides to let you. World Serpent Inn has opened to link there every once in a while, but it normally means bad things are happening in Sigil since that thing is odd.

[@MutatedPixelation]

Really gonna need a sigil sitcom in the vein of Seinfeld.

[@KaosFireMaker]

Other fun facts. That spire at its base fully shuts down all magic. It is also infinitly tall. Yes you can see sigel on top of it, its still infinitly tall

[@Cryptic_Orbit]

Loved the video!! That was an extremely good explanation for where Sigil is, just another quality vid

[@Fallenmonkd20]

Me and the boys on a quest to the lady ward -we gonna meet our end in the lower ward ditch-

[@CarpeDiem-rm2vm]

Good Video. Nice. Keep up the high quality.

[@drakevegas7073]

As random as it sounds, I've always wanted a donut-shaped world in a setting specifically because you could look straight up and see other parts of the world. The ultimate conclusion of this being that you could travel straight up to make it halfway across the world.

[@Grab_001]

The Lady of Pain does not want to hear about your problems. She does not give a shit about your grievances. She does not want your worship. She doesnt even want to acknowledge you. She's hyperfixating on her special town and she does NOT want to talk to you about it. (Also I imagine the fact that she isnt a God and doesnt want to be worshipped as one is due to the fact that if she became a god, she also gains the weaknesses of a God, and can therefore DIE like a God. Whatever she is, its better than being a God.)

[@Rutgerman95]

@5:23 That reminds me, you can find a few guys from the Dark Sun setting, right? Any plans to cover its word of Athas?

[@IcyPhilosopher]

Brought my characters here about a month ago. They're still trekking through the Wards and having a good time. They just beat an empyrean at the Bottle and Jug who was the reigning pitfighting champ and now they're going to find a portal to limbo where they can ask the githzerai to help their homeworld that was invaded by illithid. Good times. Also, I am playing Planescape now too. Would love a video on that.

[@wahoobidy4912]

The funniest part is the mad lich asseseract didn't even fuck with the place. Bro, who literally would boil infints in there mothers breast milk and age them to adult hood with the power of a god because they voices in head from the dm told him, won't fuck with sigil. Also if I can recommend one thing please look into it because it makes liches so much more cool, pathfinder 2e liches are both awesome in design and so much more interesting. For an example, there's a lich called a cluster lich that uses a philiatry as a hive mind and have spare bodies they use to further there goals or for the other voices in there head to have a body of there own. Also they don't eat souls, so they don't need human interaction in any way. Just them and there study. Forever. Please look into it I think it's super cool and shows what it means to be a lich.

[@wahoobidy4912]

Also liches can survive without their phylatry. There soul moves on, but their mind stays in there body, slowly decaying as the necrotic energies eat them and there mind until there nothing more than a all consuming object. And the only way to stop this is by ripping your own soul out of the after life and forcing it into another phylatry, usually against its will.

[@SockieTheSockPuppet]

2:48 - I knew something was up when he just referred to them as "stupid insufferable a-holes". They're a faction that's great for acclimating newcomers to the city and its environment, but clearly he only cared about how some people in-setting see them as greedy and have a "pull-yourself-up-by-your-bootstrap" kind of mentality (even though that's literally the adventurer's mindset by nature).

[@Americanbadashh]

Calling ahead to stores, is just good advice in general. Even for your local convince store. If you're a regular chances are they might listen if you're looking for something special.

[@canis2020]

I don't know if you guys ever watched top gear or the grand tour but there is a store in China that is a drive through door store. I imagine that's what Sigil is like

[@matthiasarran270]

I used this city(sort of ) in my last game. The BBEG blackmailed the god in charge of the plane, allowing his armies to just go wherever they wanted.

[@CJBerdomas]

In the words of Spoony: Though Shalt Not Fuck With the Lady of Pain.

[@ElJorro]

This is great. You explain things very well

[@chattychatotchannel]

man I wanna play planescape torment now (I love sensates I just wanna go around places being like man I'm just here to experience stuff :) )

[@ce5122]

amazing game

[@CaptainDog87]

In the Lore(talking the actual AD&D Books) the pronunciation of the cities name was an easy way for people native and people not native to catch each other. A Native from Sigil would immediately identify a non-native just by the pronunciation, and characters with lore of the planes would be able to notice the reverse. Also you forgot that Sigil has it's own accent and slang.

[@Usagi33353]

FUCK i want to run a multiversal campaign, hoping from one plane to the next with Sigil as the hub

[@francisweller839]

Everyone’s making fun of the squares until someone jacks the circles off your car

[@clericofchaos1]

I based the capital city of one of my nations on sigil. Mainly in the way that every kind of creature lived there and everybody did business with everybody else with no issues. I like that concept.

[@GodOfWindSikar]

You never played Torment?! Oh boy, prepare for a ride!

[@dovahkiin_brasil]

"Another clueless stumble on our cage eh? Fret not Berk, old cobbler here can reveal all Sigil's darks, as long I get the right amount of jink hehehe. Now come into mine alley hideout, before those Harhead cutters get in our way. I have some cake for you inside hehe."

[@deltarno7502]

Love the video, haven't been to Sigil since guiding a nameless scar covered man to his ultimate fate. Good times.

[@marcusc9931]

My favourite Sigil faction are the guys who research everything because they want to control the multiverse by abusing RAW in-setting. In 2e, their members coud have some extra spellike abilities that they could use a limited number of times before reality patched over the given exploit.

[@DrLeckon]

I'm currently running a western fantasy campaign and am only really planning to go to level 8ish(if we even get that far lol) and I now have the idea to send them to sigil one way or another if by the end they want to continue with their characters lol

[@creditsunknown7974]

I'll be honest it dosent seem very neutral to send somebody to the Torment Nexus cause they said "hi" or silently said "please help me" but that just me. Also I know her whole shtick is being undefeatable but I want to believe that since she is pure neutrality, if you somehow managed to make her give a prayer for herself, she will be forced to send herself to the Torment Nexus, same if you manage to make her attack herself, which would just generate a eternal self destructive loop for all of eternity. Im sure you can go with the basic answer of her just saying "No" to all that, but I do think its interesting to look at this undefeatable being and think "how can I defeat them". Anyway back to the Torment Nexus with me-

[@GeebzGBZ]

"It's pronounced Cigel" I recognize that the council has made a decision, but given it's a stupid ass decision, I've elected to ignore it. Just gaslight WotC into calling it Sigil, clearly.

[@beoweasel]

I'm kind of amused that Runesmith did a video on Sigil before playing Planescape Torment. That said, if you haven't started your playthrough: WISDOM IS YOUR MOST IMPORTANT STAT. While there are no wisdom-based classes available to the PC (He can't be a Cleric due to Plot-related reasons, and there are no Druids in the game), Wisdom dictates how much experience you gain and it has the most ability checks. :V

[@Theology.101]

Ay wait til you see this shit, I found a map to a place got El Dorado. I swear its real dude, we gotta go find it, its a city made out of gold in the middle of one of the most dangerous environment on the planet

[@Ghastly_Grinner]

The fated are cool. They are D&D objectivists. Darkwood is probably the best faction leader by far.

[@SockieTheSockPuppet]

Reading up on them, and unfortunately knowing Runes' proclivity to let personal beliefs bleed into his comments on these stuff, I think I know why he just insulted them without even a smidge of elaboration on what they do, like he did with the others.

[@ez_theta_z9317]

ngl. i really want to meet the mindflayer chef in the market ward. what are they cooking.

[@TheTerrainWizard]

I’m running this on Fridays :)

[@downdogy9099]

I had a campaign called Siege on sigil, the idea was that a powerful entity found a way to suppress the lady of pain and launched a mass attack on the city in an attempt to take control so that they can have access to all the multiverse

[@ce5122]

wasn’t that vecna

[@AzraelThanatos]

The easy way to suppress her is to, somehow, get the World Serpent Inn to open to Sigil... Mitchifer mentions in the adventure that it happens in that when it happens the "Owner" seems to immediately go quiet...and if the party goes through, there seems to be a lot of panic and paranoia as the Lady also disappears for the duration. A lot of other things seem to go crazy with it, and both the Dabu's and the Serpent Girls seem to freeze up and just stand there staring into space. It was a very freaky story there.

[@nigelhirth2181]

Yeah kinda. That was the in-universe explanation for the jump from 2nd to 3rd edition. Vecna was able to force his way into Sigil, but only for an instant. That was long enough though for the whole multiverse to be reformatted. The only way he was able to accomplish it was he was the literal God of Secrets at the time, IIRC.

[@downdogy9099]

@@ce5122 I don't know, I was also like 16 at the time lmao

[@downdogy9099]

@nigelhirth2181 interesting, if I ever decide to run the campaign again that info would be pretty helpful for lore and worldbuilding

[@tyrongkojy]

"It feels like old timey Bauldur's Gate". Yeah, kinda a reason for that.

[@GlGAPEPE]

That really updated my journal

[@adjothemodest]

Now just imagine playing Torment 20 or so years back, with no knowledge about DnD, having no idea of what's going on in this crazy place, with these crazy companions game offers... Ah, the day I understood I'm a bit crazy...

[@satansbarman]

That was me, also played Baldur's Gate 1 and 2, and Dark Alliance 1 and 2 having no idea what D&D was 😅

[@gongbreaker]

I believe that Lady of Pain is the only avatar of Ao. But hidden behind the mask so even the gods don't know who they are dealing with.

[@shagohad3]

She's not, because Sigil is multiversal and AO is just the overgod of Forgotten Realms.

[@marcusc9931]

It also inspired the Citadel Station from Mass Effect series.

[@lordnul1708]

Feom what I rememby, the reason why Sigil's name is pronounced that way was so that the locals can recognize outsiders by the way they pronounce the city's name.

[@enk335]

was just watching a video by Josephd about this, and fell in love with the lore.