The Most Interesting City I've Ever Read About

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Runesmith

Runesmith

3 ай бұрын

There be Monsters in Drakkenheim: get.monstersofdrakkenheim.com/3
ALSO TWISTED TAVERNS IS IN STORES WOOOOOOOOOOO
Sigil is everything you thought DnD would be when you cracked open the monster manual, and didn't realize all the monsters lived in different realities. Walk with me through the streets, factions, wards and tourist attractions of Sigil! I also highly recommend Planescape: Torment if you like Baldur's Gate and don't mind a lack of voice recordings.
The Lady of Pain is also one of my favorite concepts for a deadly threat, she exists more as a warning than a super strong monster. Gotta love that.
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@XumolsTV
@XumolsTV 3 ай бұрын
You forgot to mention that Lady of Pain may be a bunch of squirrels in the spiky robe.
@NertNeverlander
@NertNeverlander 3 ай бұрын
And it still be the most powerful entity in the entire DnD lol
@yaelz6043
@yaelz6043 3 ай бұрын
​@@NertNeverlandereach squirrel is a very high level wizard.
@thelegend8570
@thelegend8570 3 ай бұрын
@@yaelz6043 Each individual squirrel gets its own turn.
@yaelz6043
@yaelz6043 3 ай бұрын
@@thelegend8570 so that's how she kills so quickly.
@whade62000
@whade62000 2 ай бұрын
canon
@Cubics_Rube
@Cubics_Rube 3 ай бұрын
I think my favorite story of the Lady of Pain is from Spoony (back from his "good ol' days") If you piss of the Lady of Pain enough, and you are unlucky enough that she(?) does not kill you outright, then she will "maze" you instead. It's what Runesmith describes at 3:17 - an infinite demiplane where you will stay forever, or until you have learnt your lesson, which can be for almost forever. It's not a hedge-maze but it can be, and if the Lady is feeling fair, she might just put an exit in there somewhere. You don't need to eat or drink there, you don't need to sleep, it's pretty much a forever prison. Anyway Spoony told a story of some guy, who really wanted to stick it to the Lady for some reason, and be the first who escaped a maze, probably since she doesn't have a statblock and thus untouchable. So he brought a Minotaur, because they "always know the way out of mazes". And he brought it with the sole purpose of 1.) Pissing of the Lady of Pain. 2.) Get mazed 3.) Get right out like "yo whatup?" Anyway, he succeeded and got "mazed", and he indeed knew where the exit is... at the end of an insanely long, featureless, blank, grey and dark hallway... which was the entire demiplane. Never piss off the Lady of Pain, kids. She might be neutral, but she does have a _sharp_ sense of humor.
@MasterZebulin
@MasterZebulin 3 ай бұрын
Haha, I remember that story. God, I miss Spoony. ☹️
@Bob-lr2xp
@Bob-lr2xp 3 ай бұрын
Spoony was how I first heard of Sigil, as well as most D&D lore like the Blood War.
@Beepers559
@Beepers559 3 ай бұрын
I can’t help but imagine that if someone peeves her off enough, she skips the maze and straight up tosses them out like that scene from the emperor’s new groove
@RipOffProductionsLLC
@RipOffProductionsLLC Ай бұрын
"Thu stall not fuck with the Lady of Pain" is a great phrase to describe how Sigil's neutrality works.
@Bob-lr2xp
@Bob-lr2xp Ай бұрын
@@RipOffProductionsLLC "There is no killing the Lady of Pain. There is no fighting the Lady of Pain. There is no touching the Lady of Pain. If you ever see the Lady of Pain, run as fast as you can, as far away as you can, closing as many doors behind you as you can, and pray you didn't annoy her. The description of the Lady of Pain should have a section about beating her that simply says 'You can't. No, not even if you try that. No, not that either." -Spoony
@taterenforth6433
@taterenforth6433 3 ай бұрын
TLDR: You can use either the si-jil or si-gull pronounciation. Essentially, Sigil was called si-jil by everyone except for Zeb Cook, who said si-gull during its development, and that was a simple mispronunciation. The writers thought this was funny and put in a story about some locals killing a visitor to the city because he pronounced it si-jil. So now, according to Zeb Cook, both ways of pronouncing it are the 'official' ways. Which I like since I feel like two sides fighting over how to say a word fits really well into planescape.
@IrIcHiHaRu
@IrIcHiHaRu 3 ай бұрын
Thanks! I was one of the people in the last video asking about this in the comments
@raphezar2049
@raphezar2049 3 ай бұрын
This is just the "gif or jif"
@ZenFr0g
@ZenFr0g 3 ай бұрын
Sigil with a hard G sound just sounds so dumb. Siggle. Sigil with a J sound, it evokes thought of mystic runes or glyphs.
@taterenforth6433
@taterenforth6433 3 ай бұрын
@ZenFr0g I agree, but the hard G does sound more 'alien' to English speakers (or at least to me) so I can see people preferring it.
@MPonygirl
@MPonygirl 3 ай бұрын
According to the last Ghostfire podcast, the official story is that it was always Sijill (I'm a grognard, I was in high school when the original 2e box set came out, no one called it hard-g). The writer's already got their hard-g-vs-soft-g yucks with the Giff. They need to knock this s--- off... they have pronunciation guides in so many of the 5e supplements, there's no reason they had to change this or introduce some dumb argument point where none need be.
@fraqtl.
@fraqtl. 3 ай бұрын
Rent too high, city ignored
@andrewnewell1142
@andrewnewell1142 3 ай бұрын
The City of Doors: where you go when you’re in a Jam
@jaivv247
@jaivv247 3 ай бұрын
What about a jam that's ajar?
@AW-sx8hm
@AW-sx8hm 3 ай бұрын
Very suitable considering the madame du pain
@jacobhope6164
@jacobhope6164 3 ай бұрын
Solid dad joke!
@terriblefez
@terriblefez 3 ай бұрын
All i know is pain
@philliptivis3082
@philliptivis3082 3 ай бұрын
That joke sidled up and stabbed me in the kidney.
@AndalusianLuis
@AndalusianLuis 3 ай бұрын
I can’t believe he hadn’t played PlaneScape Torment until now!!
@therealdoomsage
@therealdoomsage 3 ай бұрын
Holy shit he hasn't played planescape: torment. Yeah you're in for a wild ride, buddy.
@Vyrlokar
@Vyrlokar 3 ай бұрын
Seriously, Planescape: Torment is such a fantastic game, and while there are newer games that do the "uber deep decision trees that make every action matter and yet let you do whatever you feel like" *cough*Baldur's Gate 3*cough* Planescape: Torment is 23 years old and it's still a referent for this kind of games in my book. It's deliciously weird and really captures the essence of Sigil and the Planescape setting. I hope Runesmith ends up doing multiple playthroughs
@therealdoomsage
@therealdoomsage 3 ай бұрын
@@Vyrlokar Couldn't agree more!
@Kalatash
@Kalatash 3 ай бұрын
Personally, I haven't played it either but I did know about its existence.
@jonathancummins6234
@jonathancummins6234 3 ай бұрын
never even heard of it before now! Thanks for the rec!
@therealdoomsage
@therealdoomsage 3 ай бұрын
@@jonathancummins6234 I hope you like reading, if so you're in for a treat!
@elwoodbrown7005
@elwoodbrown7005 3 ай бұрын
I like AJ's description of the Lady as part of a triad of over-gods. AO represents lawfulness (creation), Tharizdun represents chaos (entropy) and the Lady represents neutrality (stability). I ran a planescape game and my lore for Sigil was that is was the last remnant of a previous universe. A demi-plane that is out of phase with the rest of the universe. That is why it can only be accesses thru portals.
@shagohad3
@shagohad3 3 ай бұрын
AO's only the overgod of forgotten realms so that doesn't really work
@cut-outclassics8805
@cut-outclassics8805 3 ай бұрын
Yeah Primus is a better choice then AO@@shagohad3
@elwoodbrown7005
@elwoodbrown7005 3 ай бұрын
@@shagohad3 if you look at a spelljammer map of the spheres, there are alot of unmapped primes. Who is to say that AO isn't only overseeing realmspace. Who is to say Primus isn't an aspect of AO. Or the other way around. The lore aspects are limitless.
@shagohad3
@shagohad3 3 ай бұрын
@@elwoodbrown7005 The already established lore. And because gods can't reach across spheres unless they have followers in the new sphere.
@dylanboczar999
@dylanboczar999 3 ай бұрын
I feel like you're better saying Io (the parent of the draconic pantheon) is fit for creation, since some of the lore hints that Io created the multiverse.
@chrishubbard64
@chrishubbard64 3 ай бұрын
Ah the ultimate sandbox with infinite random options to choose from and stuff to do. I hope your dm is really good at describing things and making random stuff work. Also I love how the lady of pain is basically the only being in D&D without a stat block. Its just, "If she looks at you, this will happen, if you get her attention this will happen. Saves dont exists here, no munchkinry matters, the only outcome is Pain."
@Daemonworks
@Daemonworks 3 ай бұрын
And in-world, while writers were a bit inconsistent, she's presented as an absolute blank slate. She doesn't seem to be any of the known classes of beings, she has no known needs, there's no known way to please her or otherwise curry favour, and even her most violent displeasure is absolutely cold and perfectly indifferent. There's no arguing with her, no debate, and no defence, but she's also absolutely even handed. If she floats down the road you are on, people will scramble to get out of her way, to avoid her gaze and to avoid gazing on her, but generally they won't all pop like grapes. She doesn't seem to have either compassion or cruelty, seems to acts with purpose rather than whim... but there is no stopping her, there is no explanation and no court of appeal. My preferred interpretation is that she is Sigil itself, alert and capable of defending itself from anything that might risk disrupting the hazy balance of the exact centre of all existence.
@darienb1127
@darienb1127 2 ай бұрын
​@@Daemonworks The Lady of Pain is just the in lore explanation of "rocks fall, everyone dies."
@coyoteseattle
@coyoteseattle 3 ай бұрын
Sigil really is the ultimate city of adventure. I'm glad it's getting some decent attention in 5e. Also glad that people are playing Planescape Torment! It's my favorite CRPG, just because it's so well written. And there's a lot to think about, in it. Even has some good comedy, especially if you have Morte, Nordom, Anna, and Grace in your party; they've all got great random banter.
@satansbarman
@satansbarman 3 ай бұрын
And there's so much lore in Torment too, hidden everywhere, like learning the history of the Gith with Dak'kon while unlocking spells
@morgothable
@morgothable 3 ай бұрын
It is worth mentioning, the number of portals in sigil is equal to the number of enclosed spaces. Every arch, every door, every fireplace, every place where there is a piece of cloth hanging over the road and the donut itself is all connected to portals. You just need the correct key to open them. The key could be not knowing something specific, knowing something specific, knowing something general, having the correct item, having trash, feeling something general or specific... etc. I have a trap that i want to use in a future Sigil game. A guy waits for the party, creates a giant startling illusion and the party has to roll for whether or not it surprises them or they manage to keep control. If they are surprised by what is going on, then the portal they are standing in opens and transports them into an encounter on another plane.
@Bob-lr2xp
@Bob-lr2xp 3 ай бұрын
One thing you forgot to mention is that the countless portals in Sigil are not always obvious. Literally any doorway in any building can secretly be a portal if certain conditions are met. Maybe it's saying a password, maybe it's having a pulse, maybe it's having a piece of jerky in their back pocket. So a shopkeep could walk into his broom closet, and accidentally portal into the Fire Plane because he was wearing a green shirt.
@derpherp1810
@derpherp1810 3 ай бұрын
Zoro would perhaps be the worse guide or guard in sigil. He could literally kill anything but couldn't remain within your line of sight even if he wanted too, like he'd just straight up vanish behind anything that would break your line of sight. Zoro is so perpetually confused, he'd even be confused how he even got lost.
@Theology.101
@Theology.101 3 ай бұрын
Also, I like the theory from the 3e Demonimicon that AO, the Lady of Pain and Tharizdun have some sort of connection as the three Overgods that are fundamental to the Multiverse itself
@crowbell3059
@crowbell3059 3 ай бұрын
that would cover the 3 moral alignments good would be Ao neutral would me the Lady of pain and evil would be Tharizdun
@Theology.101
@Theology.101 3 ай бұрын
@@crowbell3059As far as I can remember too, they’re the only three Gods that dont require worship for power. AO simply is, Tharizdun is the inevitable end, and The Lady of Pain has been around to watch it all Plus, Tharizdun made the multiverse when he used the Shard of Infinite Evil to make the Abbys, shattering reality like glass and ensuring he was in each fragment. The Lady of Pain, i suppose, would be the one to link all of the fragments of AO Tharizdun made
@Grinnar
@Grinnar 3 ай бұрын
Planescape Torment launched at a pivotal moment in my life and left a lasting impression that still influences my personal philosophy and my fictional writing to this day. I actually pre-ordered the game, way back when. Probably the first time I ever did that. I'm so old now.
@tq3478
@tq3478 3 ай бұрын
The word is "wizened"
@satansbarman
@satansbarman 3 ай бұрын
I played it as a teen, back when it was a 4 CD game (huge in those days😅), and now I play it on my tablet. I started playing D&D in the last couple years, and DMing since November, I've run two one-shots directly inspired by Torment, the Modron Cube, complete with Nordom and Evil Wizard construct, and a quest to fetch the decanter of endless water from the catacombs to help Ignus, had Hargrimm, the Silent King, cranium rats and face in the wall. My players loved those adventures so I spread the word about Torment, might be 20+ years old, but still one of the best games ever
@MildlyOCD
@MildlyOCD 3 ай бұрын
One of my DMs before they ghosted us had us start in Sigil. We destroyed half the city by session 2 because the fire Genasi in our party set fire to a bottle of the strongest alcohol in existence.
@theguys3722
@theguys3722 3 ай бұрын
Now i see Why your dm ghosted you😂
@ridgetmacaroni7015
@ridgetmacaroni7015 3 ай бұрын
I ran a game in Sigil and my players did smn similar under the Hive when they lit a torch in the sewers lol
@lucjan1897
@lucjan1897 3 ай бұрын
this is daily occurence in Sigil, the districts will birth more buildings to replace the ones burned
@Beepers559
@Beepers559 3 ай бұрын
So lemme get this straight: You’re in sigil, the genasi (I dunno what that is unfortunately but it sounds like it’s good at setting things on fire) saw a bottle of alcohol so powerful it’s unmatched across the multiverse, and decides to create the planes’ biggest fire and destroyed HALF OF THE CITY. Lady of pain must’ve been real happy with the party for that stunt
@kjj26k
@kjj26k 3 ай бұрын
Glad to see someone else who thinks Sigil and all its accompaning lore is just...the coolest thing ever.
@rakjazza3154
@rakjazza3154 3 ай бұрын
If you look close enough, there are some similarities between Sigil and Ravnica, things you can borrow from both Wards and Precints, from Factions and Guilds. And also from Ankh-Morpork, from the Discworld series. I remember the Ditch everytime Pratchett describes the river, and CMT Dibbler certainly would find himself at home in Sigil too.
@satansbarman
@satansbarman 3 ай бұрын
I love that Torment got a mention, it's the game that made me fall in love with Sigil, long before i even knew about D&D 😅
@bastionsea2829
@bastionsea2829 3 ай бұрын
I love that Zoro was the 'guide' to help find the portal back. For those wondering, Zoro would get lost in an empty corridor without doors or windows
@HeavyTopspin
@HeavyTopspin 3 ай бұрын
If you really want your brain to melt, get hold of the old 2E Planescape books and have a read-through. There's just this amazing combination of silliness, utter insanity, and awesomeness.
@orokusaki1243
@orokusaki1243 2 ай бұрын
Can surely get them on drivethrurpg. And it is more than just Sigil and the Outlands, it covers all of the inner and outer planes - Plane-scape, after all.
@RipOffProductionsLLC
@RipOffProductionsLLC Ай бұрын
Oh yeah, old-school Planescape content has that Morrowind energy where you just know the writers were on drugs.
@georgeuferov1497
@georgeuferov1497 3 ай бұрын
Planescape is the best DnD setting, imo. It has so much lore, I could write a book bigger than all three 5e Planescape books combined
@tentacledhorror
@tentacledhorror 3 ай бұрын
Aoskar didn't try to kill the Lady, he just tried to the over as the God of portals and take over Sigil. The lady killed him with a thought Vecna DID try to kill her when he was amped by a more ancient evil, and she defeated him. She can cause every portal in the city of doors to just stop working. Unlike other gods, she has never had stats published because you can not beat her. There is literally a rule at WotC to never give her stats. Just thinking about fighting her is dangerous. If she wants you dead, you die, it doesn't matter who you are. If Asmodeus and Demogorgon decided to team up and kill her, they'd die. If Chronus broke free of his dream and tried killing her, he'd die. To paraphrase Apocalypse, she is as far beyond the gods as they are beyond mortals. When she sends you to The Mazes, it's not like where squidward went, it's more like the Backrooms. You turn a corner in your home, and suddenly the hall is a lot longer than it was yesterday. You turn around, but the room you just left is gone, replaced with more hallways. Everybody's Maze is different, they don't connect, and you can never leave.
@zachariahtrench7863
@zachariahtrench7863 3 ай бұрын
Ao the OverGod?
@tentacledhorror
@tentacledhorror 3 ай бұрын
​@@zachariahtrench7863Aoskar, the God of doors. Though, if Ao tried to usurp the lady, he'd die too. Ao is the overgod, but he's only the overgod of the Forgotten Realms, and he is still just a god
@flameknightdragon
@flameknightdragon 3 ай бұрын
@@tentacledhorror and if i am not mistaken the version of the lady you see in most cases is not even her at full power.
@tentacledhorror
@tentacledhorror 3 ай бұрын
@@flameknightdragon I'm not sure she has avatars. I'm not saying that she couldn't if she wanted to have them, but I don't think she needs them. She has no worshippers to visit. She doesn't have to go to different worlds. She just watches over her city. When you see the Lady floating above the city streets, I believe that it IS the Lady of Pain.
@jasonbaker1887
@jasonbaker1887 3 ай бұрын
Sigil and Planescape in general was my favorite Campaign Setting ever I have all the old 2nd ed D&D supplements and modules for it. One of them talked about how there were other factions not mentioned in the main book for it. My favorite of them was the "Opposers". Their entire philosophy was to simply oppose whatever it was that the consensus was for. It had a quote with it that described the Faction as "Because Black is White unless its white in which case it's black, unless you say its black then its white". At least I thinks that's how the quote went.
@ez_theta_z9317
@ez_theta_z9317 12 күн бұрын
a group of people who literally cannot agree. amazing.
@ItsmeInternetStranger
@ItsmeInternetStranger 3 ай бұрын
I absolutely adore Sigil. In my lore, the Dabus are insectoid creatures and are related to the Thri-kreen, who also can't communicate with words and have to draw pictures and stuff. And also, the locals call it "Si-jill" but tell non-locals it's "si-gull" so anyone who actually calls it si-gull is revealed to be an out of town bumpkin who everyone makes fun of. The place is probably one of my favorite locations in all of D&D.
@OgieSifter
@OgieSifter 3 ай бұрын
*last session my character asking about the lady of pain showing interest and desire to get all close to the lady of pain all squeeze like* "The worst thing a being could ever do is draw attention of the lady of pain or worse, worship her!" *Gulp*
@morgothable
@morgothable 3 ай бұрын
Yup, It is worth mentioning that it isnt just her gaze that cuts you. Her shadow cuts everyone it touches into tiny pieces. Hugging her is at best a quick and painful way to die.
@Daemonworks
@Daemonworks 3 ай бұрын
To be fair, she can choose /not/ to casually liquefy people who, or her casual look around would depopulate entire wards. But yeah... putting the moves on the Lady of Pain is absolutely a way to find yourself rapidly unravelled into soup.
@kjj26k
@kjj26k 3 ай бұрын
Gotta commit to the bit hombre. Better make a new character in the background real quick like.
@cypressz
@cypressz 3 ай бұрын
I seem to recall there was a bard of VERY high charisma that tried to romance her. It didn't work but she seemed less murderously angry than she normally is. I think he still died though, I can't remember where that story came from. I seem to recall her having a line about it being "impossible to be what he wanted." Long story short the Lady of Pain is not your waifu. According to her at least, she literally cannot be.
@Time_Princess
@Time_Princess 3 ай бұрын
Always nice to see people talking about Planscape Torment, such a trip man.
@bookbagfox
@bookbagfox 3 ай бұрын
Glad to see you’re giving Torment a go, it’s a brilliant game. I recommend that everyone gives it a go if have a decent level of patience for long dialogue, I really recommend it. It explores this city and its cool themes so well. It has a remastered version on Steam & GoG so it’s no hassle to get running.
@satansbarman
@satansbarman 3 ай бұрын
Also available on playstore, I play it on my tablet
@Phamtomdark
@Phamtomdark 3 ай бұрын
Man Planescape: Torment is one of my favorite games; played one or two ttgames in the setting, easily my favorite.
@TheRealMycanthrope
@TheRealMycanthrope 3 ай бұрын
(Edit:) oh good, he mentioned it ❤ Planescape: Torment is an excellent (though dated) CRPG, if you're interested in a digital visit to Sigil (and other parts of the planes) and a great story, as well as a boatload of great writing, give it a shot.
@jlaw131985
@jlaw131985 3 ай бұрын
The Terrasque running into The Lady of Pain would probably be the funniest encounter ever
@Aufsammelkabbler
@Aufsammelkabbler 2 ай бұрын
Wow, I just got so many inspirations for my next Adventure! Thank you very much, this pace is great!
@Cryptic_Orbit
@Cryptic_Orbit 3 ай бұрын
Loved the video!! That was an extremely good explanation for where Sigil is, just another quality vid
@superbunnybun
@superbunnybun 3 ай бұрын
I always theorized that The Lady of Pain was an exiled dark power from Ravenloft. It's the only other place anywhere in D&D where gods cannot get in. So what if she left Ravenloft and took custody of her own place?
@orokusaki1243
@orokusaki1243 2 ай бұрын
There's certainly other ideas that can spring to mind, particularly if you can make your way through the Immortal rules of BECMI edition D&D.
@erikgilson1687
@erikgilson1687 3 ай бұрын
I'm honestly kind of shocked it took Runesmith until this video to find out about Torment
@SonySteals
@SonySteals 3 ай бұрын
Torment came out way after Baldur’s Gate and it was considered more advanced. Definitely a must play back then.
@SapphireRose0205
@SapphireRose0205 3 ай бұрын
One of the D&D cookbooks, Heroes' Feast: Flavors of the Multiverse actually has an entire section of recipes purportedly from Sigil, including my favorite, Silverfruit Pie!
@Jacecam32
@Jacecam32 3 ай бұрын
So Sigil is my favourite city in DnD and has been for like 20 years. I used to use it to end campaigns since Sigil is built from the abandoned parts of other plains of existence. I had a labyrinth that the lady opened up once every century. The first (insert number of party members) who reached the centre won a gift and a favour from the lady. And yes I used a glyph generator to have her servants explain details and people sometimes got them wrong. These can be short campaigns (I usually make them at least 2 but I've had some run 5-6 sessions) and every door they enter shifts realms. So you could be wandering a slice of the Abyss and then end up in the fire realm. These were less story-driven and more murder hobo/puzzles. and sometimes I put a time limit and I've had parties lose. Stuck to wander the labyrinth until they die or find an exit. One player took his character's win into his own DMing and created a "lost library" he'd asked for all magical books as a favour and that was too much even for the Lady, but she gave him a book telling him the location of all magical books. So he used that and an amulet of planar teleportation to build up a huge floating library that after he died kinda started shifting planes randomly. It was cool to hear him so excited about it.
@AW-sx8hm
@AW-sx8hm 3 ай бұрын
Oh sweet I recently thought of planescape torment again and was wondering what you'd think of the setting and the goofy rebus chaps.
@quantummaniac5
@quantummaniac5 3 ай бұрын
When I was running Strixhaven, my party wanted to do something different for the summer break between semesters, so I let them visit Sigil (where one PC's parents lived and worked as interplaner diplomats) and ran a murder mystery while ripping off characters from so many goddamn books because this is the one place where it actually makes sense for the party to meet characters from everything from Star Wars to Looney Tunes to Terry Pratchett's Discworld.
@satansbarman
@satansbarman 3 ай бұрын
I'm now picturing Rincewind and Luggage in the Smouldering Corpse chatting to Ignus 😅
@ElJorro
@ElJorro 3 ай бұрын
This is great. You explain things very well
@orelyosif5852
@orelyosif5852 3 ай бұрын
Yo, I was just reading about it! Also, check a guide on how to speedrun becoming a Mage in Planescape: Torment. The game is balanced more towards that role, and most of the cool story elements are hidden there.
@satansbarman
@satansbarman 3 ай бұрын
As a Mage you want to have decent conversations with Dak'kon and Ignus, both for spells and lore
@downdogy9099
@downdogy9099 3 ай бұрын
I had a campaign called Siege on sigil, the idea was that a powerful entity found a way to suppress the lady of pain and launched a mass attack on the city in an attempt to take control so that they can have access to all the multiverse
@ce5122
@ce5122 3 ай бұрын
wasn’t that vecna
@AzraelThanatos
@AzraelThanatos 3 ай бұрын
The easy way to suppress her is to, somehow, get the World Serpent Inn to open to Sigil... Mitchifer mentions in the adventure that it happens in that when it happens the "Owner" seems to immediately go quiet...and if the party goes through, there seems to be a lot of panic and paranoia as the Lady also disappears for the duration. A lot of other things seem to go crazy with it, and both the Dabu's and the Serpent Girls seem to freeze up and just stand there staring into space. It was a very freaky story there.
@nigelhirth2181
@nigelhirth2181 3 ай бұрын
Yeah kinda. That was the in-universe explanation for the jump from 2nd to 3rd edition. Vecna was able to force his way into Sigil, but only for an instant. That was long enough though for the whole multiverse to be reformatted. The only way he was able to accomplish it was he was the literal God of Secrets at the time, IIRC.
@downdogy9099
@downdogy9099 3 ай бұрын
@@ce5122 I don't know, I was also like 16 at the time lmao
@downdogy9099
@downdogy9099 3 ай бұрын
@nigelhirth2181 interesting, if I ever decide to run the campaign again that info would be pretty helpful for lore and worldbuilding
@bryanmerchan773
@bryanmerchan773 3 ай бұрын
This is exactly what I needed to finish a character I was building, thanks!
@CarpeDiem-rm2vm
@CarpeDiem-rm2vm 3 ай бұрын
Good Video. Nice. Keep up the high quality.
@simplyjud9330
@simplyjud9330 3 ай бұрын
Runesmith you're the best keep it up
@Jgbart1
@Jgbart1 3 ай бұрын
Oh my gawd! I've played Torment a lot of times. Fantastic game and truly the one, where having high inteligence and wisdom make You awesome, especially further in game. Masterpiece.
@IrIcHiHaRu
@IrIcHiHaRu 3 ай бұрын
yeeeaahhh I love this place im so glad it got covered, the dabus fascinate me
@drakevegas7073
@drakevegas7073 3 ай бұрын
As random as it sounds, I've always wanted a donut-shaped world in a setting specifically because you could look straight up and see other parts of the world. The ultimate conclusion of this being that you could travel straight up to make it halfway across the world.
@miggypeso909
@miggypeso909 3 ай бұрын
Ahhh good ol’ Planescape aka D&D:Rifts. Best setting in the game and where my old group would “crossover” our Rifts characters to D&D stats and play over there for a spell. We had an incredible couple of sessions where our characters were doing their best to keep a certain Splugorth Lord of Atlantis from creating an alliance with Asmodeus to assist in the Bloodwar and then conquer the multiverse. How fun. CS troops raiding a Drow cavern and Sunaj Assassins keeping a Githyanki war party from taking one of their secret outposts in a pocket dimension. From Center to Sigil,so much fun.
@georgeuferov1497
@georgeuferov1497 3 ай бұрын
1:45 - not "the forgotten realms universe", the multiverse as a whole, including the Earth
@cyborgcatrj6794
@cyborgcatrj6794 3 ай бұрын
I made a character who was born here. He grew up being the Sigil equivalent of an apprentice dock master. He ended up stowing away on a Githyanki Astral Skiff and hijacking it to go on all kinds of wacky Sci Fi adventures in the Astral Plane.
@EnordAreven
@EnordAreven 3 ай бұрын
Oh, to hear someone whoes just discovered Planescape Torment for the first tike 😊
@jtyranus
@jtyranus 3 ай бұрын
I think ogling the Lady's cans might count as worship. . .
@mrsatterday5287
@mrsatterday5287 3 ай бұрын
I know there might not be much lore, but I would kill for you to do a video on the Giff.
@enk335
@enk335 19 күн бұрын
was just watching a video by Josephd about this, and fell in love with the lore.
@deltarno7502
@deltarno7502 3 ай бұрын
Love the video, haven't been to Sigil since guiding a nameless scar covered man to his ultimate fate. Good times.
@havoksaar7905
@havoksaar7905 3 ай бұрын
I love your videos! Epic and funny job on this one. I have been thinking I recently watched a show and it had the main character digging through trash to find discarded magic potions, magic items, and just trash. So has anyone run into the idea for D&D of what happens to the magic item trash?
@GlGAPEPE
@GlGAPEPE 3 ай бұрын
That really updated my journal
@DrLeckon
@DrLeckon 3 ай бұрын
I'm currently running a western fantasy campaign and am only really planning to go to level 8ish(if we even get that far lol) and I now have the idea to send them to sigil one way or another if by the end they want to continue with their characters lol
@TheTerrainWizard
@TheTerrainWizard 3 ай бұрын
I’m running this on Fridays :)
@yungo1rst
@yungo1rst 3 ай бұрын
if it goes on sale i will look into purchasing planescape, looks interesting.
@Rutgerman95
@Rutgerman95 3 ай бұрын
@5:23 That reminds me, you can find a few guys from the Dark Sun setting, right? Any plans to cover its word of Athas?
@jonathancampbell5231
@jonathancampbell5231 2 ай бұрын
Vecna came closest to defeating the Lady of Pain. He stole the divinity of the demigod Iuz and combined it with his own, which allowed him to become a Greater God, but he delayed his apotheosis and travelled to Sigil so that he could bypass the "no gods" rule and become a Greater God there, which in theory could make him the God of Sigil and the most powerful being in the multiverse. Of course, some pesky adventurers defeated him before that could happen, but he made it out alive before the Lady of Pain could end him (and she actually tried to). There is also a theory that the Lady is actually a prisoner and she's magically compelled to punish anyone who worships her out of fear that if enough people did so, she would be able to break free of her chains.
@george5483
@george5483 3 ай бұрын
I kind of need you to do a recap of Torment now. :P
@necktye1315
@necktye1315 3 ай бұрын
Man, i bought this set, i love it. Unfortunately im a terrible dm and don't ever expect to use it
@chattychatotchannel
@chattychatotchannel 3 ай бұрын
man I wanna play planescape torment now (I love sensates I just wanna go around places being like man I'm just here to experience stuff :) )
@ce5122
@ce5122 3 ай бұрын
amazing game
@Americanbadashh
@Americanbadashh 3 ай бұрын
Calling ahead to stores, is just good advice in general. Even for your local convince store. If you're a regular chances are they might listen if you're looking for something special.
@shagohad3
@shagohad3 3 ай бұрын
Fun facts about Sigil that I was hoping Runesmith would bring up. First, the events of Die, Vecna, Die!, one of the last 2e modules, has Vecna almost usurp control of Sigil from the Lady of Pain. In his brief stint of semi-control, he permanently altered the multiverse, explaining the rules changes from 2e to 3e. 2nd, if the Lady's shadow falls on you, you are flayed alive and your soul is obliterated. There was exactly one exception to this. A little girl walked into the Lady's shadow and had an actual, full on conversation with her before skipping off into the crowd. No one knows what they talked about. 3rd, the Lady is bound to the city itself. If she ever leaves or assumes her true form, the multiverse would be destroyed.
@dillpickle987
@dillpickle987 3 ай бұрын
This just reminds me: I can't wait for the new Vecna: Eve of Ruin book to come out! The blurb on the back describes how the adventure takes you to different settings not just including the Forgotten Realms, but also Planescape, Dragonlance, Spelljammer, Eberron, Ravenloft and even Greyhawk! I suspect Planescape in particular plays a big role due to the multiverse-hopping nature of the adventure.
@shagohad3
@shagohad3 3 ай бұрын
And, because it would be a callback to Die, Vecna, Die. Where Vecna tried to take over Sigil
@IcyPhilosopher
@IcyPhilosopher 3 ай бұрын
Brought my characters here about a month ago. They're still trekking through the Wards and having a good time. They just beat an empyrean at the Bottle and Jug who was the reigning pitfighting champ and now they're going to find a portal to limbo where they can ask the githzerai to help their homeworld that was invaded by illithid. Good times. Also, I am playing Planescape now too. Would love a video on that.
@shawnhowe7311
@shawnhowe7311 3 ай бұрын
Nice job
@mr.makepeace3465
@mr.makepeace3465 3 ай бұрын
Gave me the perfect idea for a large sci-fi city hub that Imma create now for a game I won't get to run any time soon. 🤷🏻‍♂️
@austa10
@austa10 3 ай бұрын
I need a complete campaign in this place right now!
@mistercheese1887
@mistercheese1887 3 ай бұрын
I can vouch for drakkenhiem. My group and I are having a blast with it.
@TheUglyGoblin
@TheUglyGoblin 3 ай бұрын
Aw I've been wanting to cover this book for awhile! (But haven't finished reading the whole book yet @_@)
@johnymite
@johnymite 3 ай бұрын
Another absolute banger
@markfarnsworth3340
@markfarnsworth3340 3 ай бұрын
I mean honestly… I love all 3rd party content but the ghostfire gaming creators is all you fucking need. You guys all crush it. 😍
@matthiasarran270
@matthiasarran270 3 ай бұрын
I used this city(sort of ) in my last game. The BBEG blackmailed the god in charge of the plane, allowing his armies to just go wherever they wanted.
@canis2020
@canis2020 3 ай бұрын
I don't know if you guys ever watched top gear or the grand tour but there is a store in China that is a drive through door store. I imagine that's what Sigil is like
@AzraelThanatos
@AzraelThanatos 3 ай бұрын
There is only one place you can't, normally, get to via a portal from Sigil...unless it decides to let you. World Serpent Inn has opened to link there every once in a while, but it normally means bad things are happening in Sigil since that thing is odd.
@dank_smirk2ndchannel200
@dank_smirk2ndchannel200 3 ай бұрын
I’m imagining the Lady of Pain being like that one anime where a girl sees ghosts but she has to pretend that she doesn’t or else they’ll kill her.
@marcusc9931
@marcusc9931 3 ай бұрын
It also inspired the Citadel Station from Mass Effect series.
@ashra8281
@ashra8281 3 ай бұрын
I planned a really cool murder mystery in sigil and had loads planned Ans thennnn half my play group can't play so never mind rip
@Bofrab
@Bofrab 3 ай бұрын
If I ever run a session in the Sigil, one of my shopkeepers is gonna be a dragon who is selling stuff from his hoard because he has way too much stuff that isn’t money, and only wants gold.
@BooksRebound
@BooksRebound 2 ай бұрын
You should try City of Stairs by Robert Jackson Bennet, and also The Saint of Bright Doors. Very interesting books!
@jikrebelloza
@jikrebelloza 3 ай бұрын
you should read the City of Kaer Maga from Pathfinder 1e, for me thats still the most interesting city I've ever read
@Sephiroth391
@Sephiroth391 3 ай бұрын
Hell yeah! Sigil
@AscendtionArc
@AscendtionArc 3 ай бұрын
Psychonauts Milkman level! Thanks for this.
@rodolforupp292
@rodolforupp292 3 ай бұрын
At first I read the title in the image of this video as "City of Dogs - The Most Interesting City I've Ever Read About". And now i really need runesmith to make that title into a video.
@CaptainDog87
@CaptainDog87 3 ай бұрын
In the Lore(talking the actual AD&D Books) the pronunciation of the cities name was an easy way for people native and people not native to catch each other. A Native from Sigil would immediately identify a non-native just by the pronunciation, and characters with lore of the planes would be able to notice the reverse. Also you forgot that Sigil has it's own accent and slang.
@MichaelJosephSonger
@MichaelJosephSonger 2 ай бұрын
I always felt like the designers saw Labyrinth and thought they would turn it into a campaign setting.
@SockieTheSockPuppet
@SockieTheSockPuppet 3 ай бұрын
2:48 - I knew something was up when he just referred to them as "stupid insufferable a-holes". They're a faction that's great for acclimating newcomers to the city and its environment, but clearly he only cared about how some people in-setting see them as greedy and have a "pull-yourself-up-by-your-bootstrap" kind of mentality (even though that's literally the adventurer's mindset by nature).
@jamespatton9780
@jamespatton9780 3 ай бұрын
I remember playing the game TORMENT it was set in the city of SIGIL along time ago does anyone else remember this game?
@clericofchaos1
@clericofchaos1 3 ай бұрын
I based the capital city of one of my nations on sigil. Mainly in the way that every kind of creature lived there and everybody did business with everybody else with no issues. I like that concept.
@Theology.101
@Theology.101 3 ай бұрын
Ay wait til you see this shit, I found a map to a place got El Dorado. I swear its real dude, we gotta go find it, its a city made out of gold in the middle of one of the most dangerous environment on the planet
@marcusc9931
@marcusc9931 3 ай бұрын
My favourite Sigil faction are the guys who research everything because they want to control the multiverse by abusing RAW in-setting. In 2e, their members coud have some extra spellike abilities that they could use a limited number of times before reality patched over the given exploit.
@chattychatotchannel
@chattychatotchannel 3 ай бұрын
oh yeah I'm pretty sure your damage also gets like rounded out or something and made way weaker or something? I'm dumb and bad at mechanics but uh idk can't remember the details lol it's something to do with neutrality
@adjothemodest
@adjothemodest 3 ай бұрын
Now just imagine playing Torment 20 or so years back, with no knowledge about DnD, having no idea of what's going on in this crazy place, with these crazy companions game offers... Ah, the day I understood I'm a bit crazy...
@satansbarman
@satansbarman 3 ай бұрын
That was me, also played Baldur's Gate 1 and 2, and Dark Alliance 1 and 2 having no idea what D&D was 😅
@lioco6124
@lioco6124 2 ай бұрын
anyone got any tips for running sigil. how to i capture the true volume of stuff in my descriptions and quests.
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