The New 2020/2021 Trek Domane SL 6 | Aeolus Pro 3V wheel upgrade | Actual Weight

[@DCassidy42]

Much in the same way that aero is 80% contributed by the rider, weight is largely a result of the rider. If you are really concerned about 1-2 lbs it's much easier and cheaper to just cut back on food intake. Unless you are 5% bodyfat and competing for your career I don't see 1 or 2 lbs being a make or break factor.

[@phillipmoore6249]

dude for real....losing weight for regular riders is way better than bitching about 1 or 2 pounds lol

[@bikebudha01]

I think I have about 40lbs to lose before 1-2 lbs of bike weight makes a difference...

[@miket2646]

Im on a 2021 Domane SL5 and absolutely love it. You cant feel the extra weight once you're riding so its a non-issue. Furthermore, its ridiculously comfortable on long rides which translates to being faster on the second half of the day instead of getting beat up on a bike that you bought based on grams.

[@involuntarysoul3867]

if you want comfort try steel frame with non oversized heattube and steel fork, rides like butter

[@miket2646]

@@involuntarysoul3867 Agreed but its a very different type of ride.

[@SkinnyMalinkyLongLegs]

Only grams i worry about are the ones i snort.

[@Speedzone23]

I have tried out the bike today. Absolutely loved it. All people complaining about the weight of the bike should stop crying and loose that visceral fat to even out. It aint a race bike nor a true gravel like checkpoint is, its just unique. Looks stunning, drives smooth, its really fast and snappy and super comfortable. 2021 version is £2500, a whooping £300 less than Checkpoint sl5. What's the point of comparing it to Emonda sl5 which is a road bike? Emonda 56 frame weights only 1.5lbs less than Domane... emonda geometry is different, head tube is 2.5cm lower which makes a tremendous difference in comfort. I would highly recommend Domaine to anyone

[@johnmanuel7561]

Great review @land of bikes! I can’t overstate the comfort of the bike. I was able to ride 100 miles and not feel “beat up” on the ride.

[@CratersFreightersJax]

The SLR 6 is a dream to ride. A little more weight, but you don't feel the weight on the road. Very smooth and comfortable ride. The SL is less than a lb. Heavier.

[@k-mac5511]

I concur. Just bought my SL6 and it is a dream to ride!!! The weight is a non-factor once you ride it. It was a concern that was very quickly decapitated.

[@kendallcampbell8539]

CratersFreightersJax exactly !

@@k-mac5511 put some videos please

[@k-mac5511]

@ I don't have a KZbin channel. 🤓

[@kendallcampbell8539]

I have one too. I love this bike. So smooth so fast

[@kendallcampbell8539]

I’m 6’5 250lbs I have the 2021 Domane SL6 62cm it’s plenty fast! The bigger tires are great for comfort and they accommodate my size. It’s great for today’s road bike.... Potholes, curbs, occasional sidewalks, puddles and some grass. It’s a great bike I do it all jack of all trades one stop shop

[@ToddJones]

Awesome, glad you like it, I’ve never been disappointed with any Trek I’ve owned. I just recommenced this bike to my uncle, he loves it.

[@mkviz]

The Domane is a Cadillac compared to the Emonda. There is more feedback on the Emonda compared to the Domane. I was able to do a short test ride today around the parking lot at my LBS and I was surprised that the Emonda fit me better because I like how compact it is. I test rode a size 50. The specs say that the Emonda has a longer reach but I think if the Domane came with a shorter stem, it would be perfect fit for me. I know weight plays an important factor, but the quality of the ride and the type of riding should determine your purchase. I dont get too bent out of shape on weight but there seems to be a trend of bikes getting heavier and heavier.

[@robertofranco4223]

I didn’t get very well.... you meant that domane is way better than emonda??? Have u tried domane on uphills or long montains. I ride on flat mainly, but few times I take montains, that’s why I would like to get some review of it before I take the big step (buy it) Thanks

[@jp3595]

Great to see someone review the bike and being honest about the weight without trying to smooth it over with marketing/reviewer bs - 100% agree that weight is not everything but 20Ibs!!, come on trek you can do better than that, aren’t things supposed to get lighter every year not heavier :-( Surely a pair of 32mm tyres would soak up enough road buzz that you could then bin the front and rear iso to save a chunk of weight

[@DamascusHarris]

I run 28 GP 5000's at high pressures, so the ISO is great. What are we talking 3 lbs? Unless you race, or do major climbs, you won’t notice.

[@jimhaselmaier2075]

I ordered a 2020 SL 6 yesterday. I would say this bike is perfect for me. I'm 59. Been a recreational rider for many years. Even though not a racer I'd have sacrificed comfort for lighter weight in days gone by. But not any more. An extra pound or two on the bike is fine with me if, at the end of the day, it has been a more comfortable ride. I'm also moving away from cars, and the prospect of going to tires that would at least make gravel reasonably doable is extremely attractive. Why not buy a 2019? Frame clearance and the 2020 has a threaded bottom bracket. 32s for the road does seem wide. (I come from the 23s / 115psi days.) But from everything I've read people say they're not only comfortable but reasonably fast.

[@ToddJones]

Yes the t47 is a nice touch, but if you aren’t pushing 1000 watts and sprinting the chance of you having trouble with your press fit bb is nil. And you can fit 32s on the 2019. But, for the riding you are describing and if you don’t mind the steep jump in price then the 2020 is more future proof.

[@dcm6073]

Wondering how you are finding the Domane after 6 months on the road. I have an opportunity to buy a 2020 SL 5 or SL 6 for endurance riding and some shorter Randonneur riding. Your thoughts and comments would be greatly appreciated.

[@DDGreyduck]

Honestly this bike looks perfect for me and I bet I’m not alone. I am 38 with 2 kids. I dont have all day to ride just a few hours while the kids are at school. I am getting back into drop bar riding after taking 5 years off. I dont race, I want to ride less traveled roads and paths AWAY from cars. So for my area this means 70 percent chipped up potholed exurban roads and 30 percent well maintained gravel. I want to go fast, but I am riding for fitness and fun not competition. Trying to decide between Domane SL5, and Salsa Warroad/Warbird. Anyone have any advice or other suggestions?

[@ToddJones]

This bike is almost perfect for you. But I would add the Checkpoint to your list.

[@ToddJones]

This bike is almost perfect for you. But I would add the Checkpoint to your list.

[@joeengg1813]

Buy an XC MTB with racing tyres. You can go faster than a road bike on bad roads with atmost comfort , that a no road bike can give. Your average speed would be 25kmph

[@kendallcampbell8539]

I have the SL6 2020 it’s fast! It’s smooth! And it looks amazing. Bro stop being a weight weenie

[@graydonbardwell4637]

I worried too much about the weight until I bought one - absolutely love it. I upgraded my wheels to the Bontrager Aeolus XXX4, w/32mm conti GP5000TL... really happy with it.

[@Paulpedaling]

Seriously getting ready to purchase a 2021 Domane SL6. Currently I ride a 2020 Checkpoint SL5, almost exclusively on tarmac with very little gravel and a smidge of off roading. I’m not certain I’ll notice much difference but I’m eager to see if endurance is increased and the overall feel of the ride over time is different. Thanks for your vid its very helpful.

[@jcsrst]

I bought one for endurance riding. It's good for training. When I want to go fast I ride a System Six.

[@allemyr]

I took your advice and bougth last year Domane SL, only problem its 2022 now. Luckily its super comfortable! Thx for review

[@alexben927]

Bought the SL6 with some Aeolus XXX 4 wheels and Continental GP500 TR tires for road conditions and then a second set with original wheel on WTB Venture 40 Tubeless for gravel or light off-road adventuring. Was going to go for 2019 model but tire clearance did it for me to pair this with my Trek 1120 to give me all the bike I need from road to gravel to bikepacking adventure

[@k-mac5511]

Alex Requeno several months later and what is your review of the ride?

[@crownether9537]

You did what I would do if I had the money 😂😂😂

[@alexben927]

Love the setup, from bikepacking from San Francisco to Los Angeles to century rides to speedy gravel rides to comfortable hill rides this bike does it all for me.

[@ronj1215]

Just purchased the Domane SL6 (Black on Black..this "B" is on fire!) yesterday 8/31. I'm upgrading from the Checkpoint SL 5 (Cobra Blood). I'm riding 18miles Monday thru Friday and 21 every other Saturday( 73% pavement/road - 27% gravel in that TEXAS weather - Trinity Park). The reason for the upgrade, the Cobra Blood is fast but on windy days the drag is real...the bike becomes a tank. The first mile I'm whooping tail and taking names but after 4 miles the Checkpoint SL would struggle(you have to put in to much work to keep it going). The Checkpoint SL was burying all the gravel bikes and toe tagging quite a few road bikes at the park. I will put the Domane SL6( I call the bike "KITT") to the test Monday and report back next weekend. If you're out at Trinity Park next week between 5:30 and 8:30 don't be afraid to pull up and get some of this action( look for the two dudes riding Track bikes).

[@ToddJones]

Haha, thanks for the reply. I look froward to hearing about the report.

[@k-mac5511]

Ronnie Joshua waiting on your report. What’s the update?

[@ronj1215]

@@k-mac5511 The SL6 (Kitt) is on point...Kitt is lightweight and fast! What is so crazy, the SL6 is just as fast on on gravel roads(not heavily gravel - epic fail). The SL6 made me realize how overweight I am. I have busted Specialized's, BMC and etc( left them eating my dust) but that endurance of mines is TRASH!! I'm going for losing 50 pounds by 11/1 and hopefully Kitt and calisthenics will get me there! I was going to throw some Carbon wheels on but I think I'm going to leave the SL6/Kitt original and/or the way I purchased and just get a new bike. The next one will be a Canyon Aeroad but that is a later down the road. My SL6 is holding me down right now "PLUS" I need more wins with the new goal weight!

[@k-mac5511]

@@ronj1215 thank you for reporting. Happy, fast trails to you & Kitt!!

[@michaelabushacra1527]

Just picked up the SL6 and pretty excited about it. I’ve recently got into road/gravel riding and previously rode a built up Kona Jake gravel bike. Basically, this is my first fully new bike purchase. I was teetering between the domane and the checkpoint and would love to get any update on anyone’s experience. I’m literally looking at this new bike and hopefully not regretting the purchase hahaha

[@ToddJones]

Michael Abushacra congrats one the new bike purchase. From the type of riding you are doing I’d say it’s probably perfect, unless your gravel is really rough, you’ll love the bike.

[@michaelbriscoe9480]

I'm moving into Domane SL6 as well, coming out of a KONA Rove. I ride trails, pavement and gravel. The Domane SL6 had me at Hello (after the test ride, lol).

[@Noobynoobynash]

Thanks for the honest review, GJ!

[@Enzo575]

I had a FX4 Sport and upgraded to the Domané SL6. Huge difference! Much lighter and nimble and fantastic

[@b5thomas7]

Thanks for the no-nonsense review.

[@groad6551]

It’s nice to have a lighter bike but at the end of the day I will trade a pound or two for a comfortable geometry and the tire clearance is just right. Most of my rides are on normal but rough roads and not gravel so this is perfect for me.

[@sharpcsc998]

Too right!! Been struggling with the weight of the Domane. Wanted a gravel bike here in the UK and was very impressed with the Checkpoint SL6. 40mm tyre, yes. Tubeless yes! Comfortable yes! Ready for cyclocross yes. 9.08kg. It’ll do weight wise. Summary Versatile, great handling, do anything bike including touring, gravel, cyclocross and road. Used a spare set of DT Swiss alloy rims with 30mm road tyres and can now road ride competitively too!

[@raviatm]

i was back and forth between the domane and the checkpoint as well. went with the domane. how do you like the checkpoint?

[@sharpcsc998]

Ravinder Singh Hi. Very pleased as I did 3 cyclocross races here in Yorkshire over December and January and it continues to be very versatile. The wheel set is heavy at 3kg + so I’ve bought some Hunt 30mm carbon gravel wheels with Schwalbe Pro One in 28mm so that I can road cycle and weight is now only 8.6kg. Really happy with my choice. Hope you like the Domane almost identical.

[@raviatm]

Chris Sharp I'm loving the Domane so far!

[@jackpalmer9486]

I bought last years (2019) Domane. Saved a pound and $600.

[@salsalawyer]

Me too

[@Ateliersound1]

Yup..rim brake version with Zipp 302’s and its almost 2pounds lighter!..28s do me fine for the type of riding i do...looks great/smooth/fast/comfortable.. extremely satisfied with my 2019

[@dominicwalker9947]

Very fair reveiw, I don't know who would buy that with checkpoint in lineup.

[@arturnaumiuk8135]

Dominic Walker one who prefers threaded BB over press fit and addition of front isospeed

[@JGstunts22]

If you dont need bigger than a 38mm tire it's a better bike ... you get downtube storage, front isospeed, integrated cable routing (way better) , duotrap, and the threaded BB! Only thing the checkpoint offers over it is the adjustable stranglehold (would never use) and a 45mm tire(I would never use because I have a mountain bike).

[@k-mac5511]

Yeah, what he Arthur and stunts said. 👍

[@jbkstafford]

I have the SL6 2021. Fabulous. I upgraded from 2015 Domane which is a lot lighter but i haven't lost any speed. Safer, more comfortable and great for commute. And I don't miss the DI2. I think I prefer the positive feel of mechanical set. The gears feel a little more widely spaced, but you get a 1:1 granny gear climber which is great for old legs.

[@cesar0610]

Thanks for such honest review. I've gotta watch it before buying my 2020 Domane SL7 eTap. I can't agree more with your review. Being a 2014 Madone 4.7 owner and wanted to upgrade to a up-to-date bike I bought the Domane which I regret of have that bike. I just rode 2 times to understand that is a TANK and full of marketing promises. My legs hurt after 10miles like I'm riding my 2020 Farley 9.6 fatbike @20mph. I never fell in love with bike, also the AXS 12 sp groupset is a bluff. Sram came up with a great wireless idea to hit Shimano Di2 but is a piece of crap system compare with the bullet proofed Di2. As of today and just with 2 rides, I'm selling my Domane to get a 2021 Emonda SL6 or SL7 if budget permiting; or perhaps, a 2020 Madone SL6. I'm keeping my old Madone which still kicks butt like a new bike

[@JayakrishnanRamachandranNair]

Hey did you get a 2021 Emonda? How does it compare against Domane? I have domane now. Looking at an Emonda as well.

[@cesar0610]

@@JayakrishnanRamachandranNair I ended up buying a Trek Checkpoint SL 6, and I can tell you I'm so happy I made that decision. That bike is amazing, fun and versatile, Domane doesn't have nothing to do compete against Checkpoint. Fast, lighter, superb power train (Shimano GRX) Comes with 40mm tires on with a capability of going up to 45mm (I already set them tubeless and is a feather). Also I'm getting a new wheelset which I'll put 32c or maybe 28c to have them as Road Wheelset My plan is getting next year the Emonda or Madone. My old 2014 Madone needs a nice tuneup to bring it up to the ball park

[@JeremyLevyMusic]

I'll add my thoughts, I guess. I bought a Domane SL5 in a size 58 (I'm 5'11"). It was just a little too big for me, and the bike felt generally sluggish overall. The shop I bought it from let me try the Emonda SL5 as well, and although I thought it was too twitchy at first, I ended up exchanging it for the Emonda in a size 56. I'm much happier now, and really loving it. Feels much quicker and responsive. There's honestly not a huge difference missing the isospeed. The carbon frame already handles the shock absorption pretty well.

[@bpisan]

My story exactly…

[@edwardpetersii6276]

Emonda is a faster, more aggressive bike! With that being said, The Domane is not slow or sluggish! If you tried a 58 and then went for a 56, you were on a ‘bigger’ bike than you should’ve been! If you had tried the 56, which was beyond me why you tried a 58 and then bought a 56, you would’ve been more comfortable to ride ‘adequately!’ With that being said, an Emonda is a more aggressive bike! A Domane is a more comfortable bike that is supposed to put you in a more ‘upright’ position. People with bad backs and those whom cannot handle being on a bike with a more aggressive stance will benefit from this bike! You can ‘race’ on this bike but that is not it’s ‘main’ intention! Technically, with all it’s parts and technology, it ‘equates’ to adding up to a ‘race-worthy’ bike! However, with it’s geometry, more relaxed head tube and lifted stem, as well as ISO speed incorporation, The Domane is meant to be an ‘all-rounder’ road-bike, versus a ‘focused’, type of a road bike! A user-friendly road bike if you will! Honestly, if you’re not a competing racer, a semi-pro or pro, why the heck would you buy a pro racing bike, anyway? It’s a waste of money and like buying a Ferrari or Porsche, where are you going to ride a bike that’s so fast? The bike was fast enough for me! I just bought a Domane SL 6 and am changing the wheels! The weight of the wheels is not the only reason to change them! The hubs and bearings in the higher end Bontrager wheels, also contribute to the smoothness and confit ability, as well as speed of the bike!

[@JeremyLevyMusic]

@@edwardpetersii6276 Inventory was still low when I was shopping. Trek’s sizing guide put me on a 58, and I found one in stock at a shop an hour away. After riding it for a week, I realized a 56 would feel better. They didn’t have a Domane in 56 in stock, so Emonda ended up being a better option for me in multiple levels.

[@theaveragebear7873]

I have lower back problems (20 years of flying in the Navy). The Domane is the first bike that I can ride on a regular basis. I have ridden a few other endurance road bikes and owned a giant defy prior to my 2021 Domane SL6. Those other bikes are comfortable also but do not compare to what the ISO speed provides. On my Defy, I could go on a 60-mile ride and be ok, but my lower back would be stiff and in pain after the ride and the next day. I could ride my Domane every day if I had the time. So I'm ok with the weight if I can ride it more.

[@swanauto47]

I think I’ve been reassured on getting an Émonda SL5

[@Pascal61]

did you actually get it? and if yes what are your thoughts about it?

[@k-mac5511]

I got the SL6, its everything its billed to be. Yes a tad heavy for some but the plusses quickly negate the weight. Its a smooth, comfortable ride.

[@raviatm]

@@k-mac5511 same!

[@maxrott3345]

How do you like it on longer rides? I am thinking of buying the emojda too but am afraid it won‘t be comfortable for longer rides.

[@swanauto47]

Max Hasser I have it in a disc version and it’s pretty comfortable, it got a bit uncomfortable after 60 miles but it was mainly the seat not the frame. If you don’t ride in the wet or occasionally take it on gravels, you should probably go rim cuz I remember that bike in a rim brake version feeling super fast. Mines a 2019

[@aks1747]

I also have a Domane SL6 and I love it. I bought it because of the geo. There are not many bikes out there which fit to long leg / short reach / short arms riders. With 177cm I have a size 54, seatpost to max and no spacers beneath the stem. I changed to a different and lighter saddle, swapped the handlebar to one with less reach (93mm on the existing is way too much) and changed tubes. With these changes I instantly shaved off almost 0,5kg. I will also change to summer tires, maybe Hunt wheels, and this will drop another 0,7kg in weight resulting in overall approx. 8kg for this bike. Perfect.

[@ToddJones]

Yup you are exactly right, I’m shorter in the arms too and h1 geometry never works for me. Always been more comfortable on the Domane or H2 geometry. Good luck with the build.

[@craigbelanger4415]

After riding Madone's for my past two road bikes, I felt it was time to move into the Domane (plus I just turned 60 a few months ago so Mister Ray, your comments are right on!!!) and wanted something that wouldn't loosen my fillings when I hit a bump. Yes, this bike is significantly heavier than my 2013 Madone (shockingly FIVE POUNDS heavier), but I describe it as moving from a Corvette to a Cadillac. My first ride with it felt significantly slower (as I didn't hook up my computer yet) but to my surprise, I came in 2/10th a MPH slower than my normal ride. I will sacrifice that marginal speed for the added comfort any day. Plus I love the spare tube storage and the Flare RT light on the back. What a nice upgrade.

[@k-mac5511]

Craig Belanger I appreciate your review. Looking to get the stealth black for my 50th birthday 🎁.

[@davidpark7170]

Curious but have you noticed a big difference on the climbs? Does the extra cassette size make up for the weight difference? Also on longer rides of 50+ miles have you noticed any major loss on time compared to the Madones?

[@k-mac5511]

@@davidpark7170 I've had 007, as in James Bond, for a month. I've gone on multiple rides at 14-20 miles a clip on relatively flat trails and a scenic hilly trail around the lake. I have 222 miles in so far. The bike has handled extremely well on both trails. I feel I am riding stronger and faster and my riding partner does too. I rode twice by myself and showed improvement in my time, hill climb, and average pace from 12 to now 14. The other times have been at the pace of the group with multiple stops. Its a quick, nimble bike that offers the hill climbing capability and comfort I was looking for. I am very pleased so far. I will start training to ride a century and expect it to much more enjoyable on the Domane.

[@travisharrisphotography]

For me, I wanted the checkpoint. However, the bb90 bb was not something I was excited about, nor was the lack of front compliance (regardless of tire size). The new t27 bb along with front iso, and the ability to add 38c, makes this a really great platform for a "do it all" bike. Also the color selection is far better on this trim level. When the checkpoint has the new t27 bb and front iso it will be more of a close call (checkpoint for sure then). But for now... This is the better deal imo.

[@ToddJones]

Good reasons. Are you going to use it for gravel too?

[@nealspurgeon7547]

I was riding a 2017 Edmonde SL6 Pro and switched to the 2021 Domane SL6, the ride is more enjoyable but less aggressive on hills and take off. I did change the tires from a 32 to a 28 Continental Gator skin. I a 13 miles round trip to work and back at avg spd 19 mph and 62 to 100 miles on either Sat/Sun with Avg Spd 16 mph with traffic lights. I wanted a bike to start riding gravel and continue to ride endurance.

[@siliconcowboy2010]

I just bought one of these, 50 frame as I am only 5’ 5 1/2”. Very low bike, 32 cm tire, not suited for gravel but a great road bike. Downshifted needs adjustment but otherwise smooth and comfortable and gives me a nice low profile on the drops. Bars are very narrow but Ike like that. Overall a great investment.

[@robertwolstein8111]

I ordered a purple Domane 9 months ago. It arrived at my shop Friday. I get fitted tomorrow. It looks spectacular but yes it's a bit heavy. I currently ride a 2014 Domane 5.2. 31K miles on it.

[@ToddJones]

That’s very exciting, enjoy the new whip!

[@bikebudha01]

The best reason to buy the Domane is the geometry. Short reach + tall stack = super pleasant ride experience. Especially on longer rides...

[@TalesfromtheGreenway]

I'm riding 80% road, 20% gravel, inflexible and 40 something. I like to hammer it but be comfortable. If I can get the small size down to the mid 17lb range I'd be happy. I believe it's feasible swapping some parts, tires and wheels. Heading to have a look at the bike today. Thanks for the info!

[@ferree1709]

Checkpoint is an adventure bike. Gravel is now more competitive. I think the Domane is a true competition gravel bike now that you can put 40's on it if you thought you needed it.

[@ToddJones]

I still think I'd want a longer bike with gravel geometry tho. I do get what you are saying and i've thought the same thing. I was originally disappointed that the Checkpoint when it was launched wasn't a competition type race bike. But I don't think this is the answer. I wish they would launch a new Checkpoint with less braise ons in maybe a PRO model for more gravel racing. You never know, maybe a new one with a T47 BB is in the works.

[@gabrielrivest3872]

Rambling with similar thoughts lately. Thinking about changing my 2016 Boone to get 12mm through axles on all my bikes for easy wheel change. It seems like the best low cost versatile frame in Trek's line up is the Crockett. You won't be able to fit as wide tires as on the checkpoint but the frame seems much more optimize in terms of weight and performance. That seems like a bike that would be very capable on road and off road with better perfmance than the domane and checkpoint.

[@tommoss5824]

I have my 2018 Domane SL6 Pro with the Aeolus 3 carbon wheels since July 2018. I’m loving every minute, every mile, and I ride it daily. I ride with a lot of wattage, at a body weight between 220-240 lbs., and my Emonda has endured it all, masterfully! Not too keen on the new cosmetic changes for 2020, though. I’m close to pulling the trigger on the 2020 Canyon Endurace CF SLX 8.0 disc as my new main ride, but my Emonda isn’t going anywhere!

[@bernarddahl]

tom moss Emonda, or Domane?

[@stephenevans684]

Very much satisfied with the product .

[@spoudaois4535]

I have been considering the domane , check point and the specialized versions of the same types of bikes. Ended up ordering an Orbea terre because it has the new shimano 1X11 and you can customize the colors and crank arm length.

[@MedMed-fd9mh]

Good day can you help me choosing between Domane vs emonda and if there is any different between carbon vs aluminum because it’s seem the emonda lighter in aluminum form than carbon .. thank you for great video

[@joelberman5981]

Your thoughts make sense. Glad I bought last year’s Domane SL 6

[@jdickens111]

I know this is an older video, but wanted to comment on your comment on the Checkpoint SL7. Did you pick one up? I got one this year and love it! I think Trek hit the nail on the head.

[@geforce1969]

I'm thinking of getting a endurance bike like Domane SL5 or SL6 for long ride like trip for 100 miles or above, as i did have Giant TCR Advanced 1 KOM 3 years back but i still prefer to ride on my Specialized FS Elite Worldcup as it is more comfortable and sold off my Giant after less than 10 rides....I also consider to have Checkpoint so that i can ride on gravel or use it as touring bike since Checkpoint has lot of place to mount rack... then i still think the best bike for off road will be my FS... it is really a hard decision for me to go for.... For now I'm using my FS to ride with my friend for 100 miles trip but it is hard for me to keep up with long trip with the fat tyre, bike geometry and the weight, thus wanting to have a more comfortable ride so that i can ride faster, longer, and enjoy the ride without having back/shoulder ache...

[@troutcreekroadproductions7477]

My 2019 Domane SL5 weighs in right around 17.5 pounds after putting on a nice carbon wheel set on. This is pedals, cages.wahoo and mount. They really beefed up the 2020s and beyond for "areo" gains.

[@TalesfromtheGreenway]

Great video, It answered a lot of questions comparing with the checkpoint. I would totally buy this bike except there's no mounts for a rack or other accessories. To me it could if been an ultimate light touring set up or ulta event bike. Re the weight I found it was all in my head, I tested 2 bikes with 4lbs difference, mere seconds over a 10min climb. One bike that's overlooked and affordable is the crossrip, which they offer as a frame, accepts wide tires, racks, packs and regular axle wheels. Owning a set of high end non thur axle compatible wheels it was a great choice.

[@ToddJones]

Yes, and the Aluminum Checkpoint would be another great option with all the mounts and tire clearance you are looking for. Thanks for watching!

[@jamesthompson3336]

I love it's good looks but, I'd like to ride it at least 30 miles then see how I feel about it. I have the 2018 ALR5 Domane ( aluminum frame) and my bike is lighter then that. I love mine.

[@Vrfthee34466]

Rides great, would highly recommend.

[@k-mac5511]

Give it a ride. I think you'll be impressed by the ride as well as the looks of it too! 😎

[@k-mac5511]

Give it a ride. I think you'll be impressed by the ride as well as the looks of it too! 😎

[@RickinHKG]

Great video and opinion. I am looking for versatility. The Checkpoint might give me that over the Domane.

[@moreypc]

I ride roads that in general are pretty rough when running 25mm tires. First ride on my 2020 SL6 I PR'd four climbs and my everyday road bike is a 17 pounds Vamoots. I was a bit disappointed it didn't come with tubeless ready tires so my ride was after pulling the tires, tubes and strips then replacing them with Stans tape, 2oz of sealant and a set of file tread Gravel King 32mm tires. Replacing the tires and tubes was a 400+ gram rotational savings alone.

[@ToddJones]

That’s a lot more than I got, but I guess the tires I put on are 38mm. Nice!

[@moreypc]

@@ToddJones If you're on their standard G One gravel tire they're close to 500 grams a tire. I have two well used that are 480 and 520 each so heavier than the stock tires that come on it. The Stock tire with tube would be about 555 each (150 g per tube and 405 g per tire). Gravel King 32s are sub 300 grams, an actual road tire. basically you were comparing apples to oranges. Guessing the carbon wheels while significantly more pimp are really not all that light so weight was basically a wash.

[@ToddJones]

@@moreypc I just through them on since I had them close by off my checkpoint. It's similar to what I would run on that bike if I used it for gravel so I thought I would see what the weight came to. 100 grams less considering the heavier tire wasn't so bad.then.

[@Joshstros]

@@moreypc Other then the weight, whats your thoughts on the Titanium vs domane for a do it all bike, for comfort and 50-100 mile rides? Looking at building a Ti up or buying a 2020 SL5.. Budget right now only has 1 bike in it and I can't decide between the 2.. No where around me to test a Titanium build out so trying to get some opinions.

[@moreypc]

@@Joshstros I would have no problem recommending a new Domane. Ti is nice no doubt, but the Domane does so much really well and has so many little things going for it that I'd pick it if I was doing one or the other. I'm actually going to be selling off my Vamoots, it's great and comfortable but it doesn't have the tire clearance I want now. It's a pure road bike and while it's great at that, it isn't great where I ride now. I had a 2001 and the current Vamoots is a 2014 so I have a lot of miles on them and I think the Domane is better at most things.

[@ronj1215]

Land Of Bikes..."DUDE" this Domane SL 6 is legit (I have put 113 miles on this deal). I see why you are confused with the endurance, gravel, aero etc....the Domane SL 6 is all combined in 1. This deal is lighter than the Checkpoint (Cobra Blood), faster(cuts through wind like butter)...floats on gravel "but not as fast on gravel" Checkpoint has a very slight edge "giving the tires". I'm not disappointed with this purchase! The Domane will hold me down next summer. I will try to throw some carbon racing wheels on this deal and get this deal ready for war(looking for all Specialized, Pinarello, Giant, BMC etc.)! Trek did the damn thing on this Domane SL 6! Take your Domane out...I'm willing to bet you anything that you will retire your Checkpoint!

[@ToddJones]

I like that challenge.. It wasn't mine tho but I will get my hands on one. Thanks!

[@mattiasstenmark4918]

I ordered a SL 5 2020 immediately when it was released. Before I've had a Canyon Endurace CF SL Disc 7.0 which is kinda of the same bike, but I wanted a bike with more tire clearance. Why did I choose the new Domane? Well, I got a really good deal because of a good relationship with my lbs. I want this bike to be somewhat capable during our weekly full-gas club rides. And I want it to handle gravel. But I also want it to be a good road bike for solo rides/adventures. Speed is fun so if it is marginally more aero, what is not to love? A few bikes ago weight was really imortant to me too. But then I got a slightly heavier aero bike, and then the Endurace and then I realized that weight is not important. At least not *that* important. I dont race on the road and we have no mountains so it doesnt matter if it is 8.5 kg or 7.5. That said, the SL 5 IS kinda heavy. But I bought new wheels (Hunt 4 season disc), saddle (Power Expert), lighter rotors, 11-28 cassette, new R3 TLR tires, new handlebars and I will remove the crankset and front derailleur to make it 1x with my Rotor 3d24+NgEco+AB Oval. This is pretty much half of the bike upgraded but it didn't cost me a lot and I will get the weight down to around 8.5 wo pedals. Not light, not for climbing maybe, but a really good allrounder. I haven't ridden one but just wanted to share my 2 cents. On paper this is imho a perfect bike for a lot of people!

[@ToddJones]

Love it! I’m so glad you shared. And that sounds like it will be an awesome bike. Please let me know how it turns out, and if you have social media that I can follow to see how the process is going!

[@mattiasstenmark4918]

Sure, the bike will arrive around 8/27 but you can check out vagcyklist on instagram if you want to. I wrote mostly in swedish but I will write about the new bike + upgrades in english.

[@lukaszkorzeniowski]

Mattias Stenmark Hi, what is the real weight of SL5 2020?

[@WouterVandewiele]

Thx for the review! I was planned to buy one next week, but hesitating again now :-( Had a Madone for years, but with all the cobblestones in Belgium, thought a Domane SL6 would be a good deal... whatever the weight. Maybe I'll have to test a few more bikes before I decide...

[@ToddJones]

The weight may not be as much of a factor as you may think, so far the people who have these bikes have been loving them, and that does not surprise me since Trek makes a great bike and from all their R&D I’m sure this one is better than the last. Definitely try one out.

[@arnocuyckens]

Also thinking about buying it Wouter, what bike did you get eventually?

[@k-mac5511]

Wouter Vandewiele I want one too, but hesitate at the weight. I’m just riding local. Maybe do a century at the Hotter n Hell once a year.

[@jakemaas2068]

I set up my 2019 Domane for gravel and cobble stone riding with 700x32's on carbon aftermarket wheels. It is a good climber and comfortable but definitely not as fast or as light as my 2014 Domane with Aerlos 3's and 700x25's.

[@joejoe8948]

I weight that same bike at my local bike shop, 21 + pounds!

[@k-mac5511]

Its a nonfactor once your ride it. Plus, I can easily lift it on my bike rack and ride it everywhere with no problems.

[@braulioperez181]

It is a beautiful bike, but is tooooooo heavy for enthusiastic gran fondo riders. Besides it is more expensive than almost all endurance bikes offered by other manufacturers. I have a couple of Trek bikes but I will be trading them to go for a better value for buck bikes in the market. Thanks for the video, very well done!

[@fookaiwai]

When you mean more value for buck which one you are mentioning?

[@jamesb.2064]

Had a Checkpoint AL model. Just traded it in on the new Domane SL6 . Upgraded the tires, wheels, handlebars, and saddle. Looking for comfort, better road performance and the ability to go off road when I see a dirt/gravel road and wonder where it goes!

[@ToddJones]

What did you go with for tires, wheels, bars and saddle? What’s the weight now?

[@winchester3000]

I am the one who is buying it. SL 5 version. Why? Because I am only allowed to have one road bike to do it all. Short and long solo rides on sub par road surfaces, group rides, triathlons and occasionally Ironman race with clip on aerobars. And I primariy seek comfort, not speed. As for the weight - I am between 90 and 115kg heavy, depending on how close the Ironman race is ;) , so have one kilo more in the frame I do not care. Only I plan to upgrade it with DI2, cause I love it on my Trek Fuel Ex and it will be easier to shift right from the aerobars.

[@ToddJones]

Thanks for sharing! If you are sticking to road how come you don’t go with the new Madone as it has an integrated proprietary aero bar option. Plus can handle a 32mm tire which would be great for rough tarmac.

[@Agent-vj3ns]

Your fat ass isn't finishing any triathlon

[@iamarunch]

@@ToddJones Can the madone SL 6 Disc handle 32 mm tyres? How do you check it anyway. I want a road bike which can handle bumpy roads.

[@robertkossayian]

Glad I found this video! I just bought the Checkpoint ALR 5. I mostly ride road but not for speed or climbing - just for endurance. I also try to hit some dirt and gravel trails. Sounds like if I replace the stock 40s with 35s I will be happier? And then when I am ready for more road, grab the carbon wheels and some 28s?

[@ToddJones]

That's what I would do, nice!

[@darktimus]

have been checking on this bike since launch. looking for a endurance bike for multi days cycling. the tire width of 35mm look good and the storage compartment look nice, but the price and weight is a negative for me.

[@k-mac5511]

what are you going with?

[@davidwebster2616]

3:50 - Subliminal messages run deep..haha

[@ToddJones]

David Webster haha, glad you caught that. I get more joy out of people catching things like that in my videos than anything else. Gotta have fun with it. Plus I’ve ridden enough Cannondale that I can rag on them a bit. Thanks for watching.

[@MB-tf9zl]

They don't make a Checkpoint in anything under a 49cm... That's why I picked up the Domane!

[@19gt92]

This years Checkpoint has GRX gravel gearing, Last year the Checkpoint had a ROAD compact. Imho I’d rather have a compact for mostly road so for 2021 I’d go Domane over the Checkpoint, then you have to factor in the T47 BB vs the Press-Fit BB. Again I’d rather have T47 as I’ve seen customers have issues with Press-Fit

[@JGstunts22]

I went back n forth over which to buy . Checkpoint or Domane. I rode both , to me It came down to I rode 80%road and 20% gravel . If I road more gravel than road I think the checkpoint is it but to me the geometry of the domane fit me better and because I ride primarily tarmac but I can also do gravel when I want to . I think the domane with a 35-38mm tire is about as versatile bike as it gets. But the checkpoint can do the same lol . So really whichever you like more . I think between the 2 if you ride mostly road get the domane , of you rode mostly gravel and need a 40mm-45mm tire get the checkpoint. But to me with mostly road and the fact that even when I ride gravel its light gravel i couldnt see needing bigger than a 38mm tire ever . If i need bigger i take my fuel ex8

[@buildsexualarousaldefeatth6313]

Your bikes is the best choice

[@hellomonkey1239]

I have this bike and I think it comes down to comfort and choice. I love this trek domane bike is smooth, light and it picks up very good speed. Good job trek makers

[@nanezferrer3565]

can i change the tyres with gravel tyres ?

[@hellomonkey1239]

@@nanezferrer3565 see if your bike a suitable for those type of tires best way to go take in to your bike shop I get a better option. I wanna say is on but that's what I know for the bike that I have

[@nanezferrer3565]

does this domane have a built in tubeless tires ?

[@hellomonkey1239]

No

[@noonster55]

Great video. I struggled with a lot of the same ideas on which new bike to get. I agree with you on many talking points. If this bike was going to be the only bike I owned, I would probably get it. For me, it's just too heavy for a road bike, especially for the price... It's sort of an expensive compromise. I have made up my mind... light road bike, light gravel bike, and a light mountain bike.

[@arturnaumiuk8135]

noonster55 what is the light gravel bike at the same price point?

[@getoutdoors2693]

I’m having the same dilemma over the checkpoint vs domane. It has been killing me. I ordered the checkpoint sl frame and a second wheel set and I am worried I will need a road bike to keep up with group rides. Please give me your advisory

[@JibbaJabber]

Wow, is that bike made of alooominum!!! Trek have missed the target on this one - big time! I own the previous generation Domane. Like most owners, we will never ride fast enough to gain the aero benefit of 1min per parsec, lightyear, whatever! What we want is more comfort, lightness, sexy, practicality, more sexy, more comfort, and then aero. Notice that weight is not on the list, since most of us have taken care of this using our own well design "hidden" storage repositories. In summary, why pay more to get less!! Get last years model while you can👍

[@ToddJones]

Touché

[@siscapasla334]

Yep, I have the 2019 Domane SL 5; so smooth, eats up hills and been through a couple of fondos this year, not to mention it's lighter than the 2020 models. Will swap the stock Affinity wheels to the Aeolus Pro 3 for next season. I LOVE my bike.

[@bitcanics6892]

It’s more weight because it’s more durable and extra carbon which is needed for gravel and warranty

[@niqvuk]

Cant wait to upgrade from my previous domane and add new zipp 303 legoo

[@WildOutdoorLiving]

Those wheels are 200ish grams less than the Paradigm Comps. Bigger tires add a ton of weight so only seeing the difference you see here isnt super surprising. In terms of who it's for.. The fit between the Domane and the Checkpoint is sigificantly different so that may sway decisions. Personally I would go Checkpoint at this point but I did really enjoy my last Domane.

[@ToddJones]

Very true, although the these schwalbe G-one's are actually pretty light. I was expecting the same weight savings as a mountain bike tubeless setup, but I wasn't thinking straight, obviously. as for the geometry, the Domane has a taller slacker geometry yet the Checkpoint feels more stable and confident. and comfort and ride position in my opinion are a result of a good fitting. The feeling of how the bike handles is the result of the geometry. The Domane seems like it would be more stable but I found the checkpoint to be. That said, The Domane is a great handling bike, and I quite enjoyed my last one too. There is no firm line between the two bikes, both are great, thats why I find it so tough to figure out how to separate the differences. Thanks for your input.

[@salsalawyer]

Love the Skittles box comment, lol

[@felicitycarus9948]

Hey there - thanks so much for your review. I have just bought a Domane SL6 - and love it though it does seem to ride like a Volvo. Is this a problem? I don't know yet... at first I'd been thinking about the Edmonda. But perhaps I didn't need anything quite so punchy. I do long-ish hilly rides and though I don't do gravel, there are some pretty choppy sections of roads on my usual routes which it handles really well. I am wondering whether the 32mm tyres slow things down a bit plus the weight (!!) was surprising - it weighs the same as my 10 year old CAAD 10! It does seem to transfer power much much better though which makes up for the weight so hills and everything else feel a little easier and I'm certainly less tired from the road buzz after long rides. Overall, I'm pretty happy. However, I'm thinking of switching to narrower tyres. What are your thoughts on that?

[@ToddJones]

Narrower bars seem to be the trend, I switched to 40cm on my Emonda. Feels fine but hacebnt notice too much of a difference. If you can handle 28mm did tires they would feel faster. But if your roads are really bumpy then stick with the 32s. I think the Domane is a great bike and I’m considering switching back to it from my Emonda.

[@londonlionel]

The Specialized Roubaix manages to add compliance without adding so much weight.

[@andreaioli2715]

I wanted to write it. You preceded me ;-)

[@njsarn]

I looked at the Specialized Roubaix but trek has compliance between the frame and the person only (seat and handle bar iso speed) but still kept it solid stiff between the pedals and the frame making energy transfer to the road efficiently. I also had a Canondale Synapse, it rides smooth as well (squeaks here and there when pushed) but it was always 1 mph slower than the Domane, so I sold the Canondale as it was not stiff enough at the energy transfer places.

[@spakls103]

Yousef Anani I have the Emonda 2021 sl.6 it comes in at 18 pounds 2 pounds different

[@kurtd1935]

So one reason I am looking at it is for the SL 7 etap version which weighs 19.3. I am primarily road and currently have a TCR but looking to go more relaxed geometry. Why should the Domane not interest me? Even for the SL6, the 2019 is not that much cheaper than 2020 unless you can find a good deal.

[@ToddJones]

Hey Kurt, if I were to buy a Domane I would go for the SL7 also. The SL6 is on close out from Trek, and they have lots of stock, but you are right, it’s only $600 less. I’m guessing you could get $1000 off if you are lucky. From a pure road bike perspective, I would still go with the 19 SL6. But they don’t make that SL7 with AXS in last years model, so there yah go. I am curious as to the riding you’ll be doing? And have you had a good fitting? What is making you look for a more relaxed geometry? Of course it’s a way different bike than the TCT, but not many are that long and low.

[@kurtd1935]

@@ToddJones Thanks for the response. May come down to budget. I've had the TCR for nearly 10 years and like it but now am doing less racing and more 50-60 mile group rides. I moved to 25" tires but still it's a fairly harsh ride. Plus getting older so comfort is more of an issue. So having a more relaxed geometry, compliant ride at least for everyday is attractive. Plus the extra pound or two is not necessarily bad for training especially if it improves comfort. I did get a fitting but long ago a couple of years after purchase. I will likely keep the TCR around for the occasional races. Open to suggestions though.

[@ToddJones]

So I could talk all day long about weight, and honestly weight isn’t that important. If you are going to try and save weight, saving it on the wheel set is far more advantageous than the frame. The thing about fittings is that your ideal position won’t change regardless of the bike, you’ll just choose the right frame size to suit your fit position in its most ideal form. The geometry being more upright really means nothing as you could just frame size down to get a more aggressive drop. So the geometry being an endurance geometry is what provides a bit more confident and stable feel, which I think is what you are after. And in terms of the best option for you. If you are after AXS than this years Domane is at the top of the list. If you potentially might ride gravel then the checkpoint SL7 would be a great option that can also handle road... there are just so many options now that I get confused about it.

[@kurtd1935]

@@ToddJones Thanks for the great tips. Will definitely keep those in mind.

[@kurtd1935]

Just wanted to add a comment about the weight. I just spent a week riding in the hills of Spain on a 2019 Domane SL6 - weight 19.07 pounds according to the website (granted not the 2020 model but equivalent to the SL7 I am looking at). Averaged 5,000 to 6,000 feet of climbing per day and I never felt "held back" by the weight of the bike. Sure, the Emonda would be lighter in the hills and yes I might want a Madone or Emonda if I was racing but after finishing 50 or 60 miles of solo riding each day even with 6,000 ft of elevation gain, I was glad to have the comfort that the Domane offered and would gladly trade that for the extra 2 pounds in weight penalty. And I certainly don't classify as a fat old man described in some of the comments below. Here's a hint - get stronger, enjoy your ride, and try not to discard the legitimate priorities of others.

[@edwardpetersii6276]

Checkpoint is an Adventure or Gravel bike! A Domane is a ‘comfort’ road bike! I rode road bikes for years! They’re not the most comfortable! You’re in a bent over position and pedaling for hours, at varying speeds! You’re stopping and going, again, in a bent-over position! You know how ‘bad’ for your back that is! Bike simulations and real riding are two completely different things! I only say this because people in the gyms, in spin-classes and on trainers think it’s the same thing! It isn’t! When you’re on the road, bumps, potholes, avoiding cars, people, etc. It all takes a toll on your body! The Domane has the ISO Speed, incorporated, a higher head tube and upwardly angled stem height. The bike is made to be more cushiony! So, it feels, ‘less’ fast! Also, a Checkpoint has a lower, down-tube, protector for riding on gravel and again, two completely different bikes! Why you are comparing the two is beyond me! The Checkpoint is like an off-road road bike, while the Domane is made for people who ‘cannot’ ride a ‘race’ specific road bike, for longer distances and periods! People with physical problems, arthritis, bad backs, neck problems, etc. The jarring and abuse that a super-quick, light, race-ready bike can cause to a person’s body isn’t for everyone! I’m 52, worked in construction for 30 years and am not as ‘physically’ capable as perhaps, 20 years ago!? I want a nice, comfy road bike that when I feel able, I can go a little faster and ride a little more ‘aggressively!’ Period! If you don’t get that, I don’t know why you’re researching so much! After some research, you ought to be finding out some answers! I think some of you are trying to see something that isn’t there! I know FOR A FACT that neither the Emonda or Madone are for me! I cannot even sit on them comfortably! The Domane, what a great bike! I jumped on one for a test ride a week ago, rode 3 miles, spiritedly, with my casual clothes on and just a helmet, as I was all smiles and no back pain when I arrived back at The Trek store in NYC! You have to choose the bike that’s right for you! Forget about what Trek writes about these bikes! It’s advertising! You have to try and ride them!

[@mightybaker]

Great review... question: would you go with the BMC Roadmachine 02 Three or the 2021 Domane SL5?

[@burakikizler_]

you've well translated my thoughts starting from 6:44

[@MFDopey85]

Great review mate. I have a 2019 Trek Emonda SL6 Disc and want a second bike. Cant decide between a Domane or a Checkpoint SL6

[@ToddJones]

Thanks mate, tough choice and will depend on terrain. If primarily on road then I’d go for the Domane. I did love my Checkpoint tho and will be buying another one eventually.

[@blaiseeisenbeil5617]

Great videos mate. I’d like your opinion. I enjoy long days in the saddle but I also love a challenging climb. Comfort is very important to me but so is a lightweight bike. Any recommendations on how to balance these two? Domane all the way? Or can Emonda be tailored to be an endurance bike as well as climbing?

[@ToddJones]

Hey mate, the Emonda is not built for comfort at all. Aggressive geometry and pretty stiff. It is very fast ok smooth roads but on rough roads or if you prefer an upright position I would go Domane all the way. My next bike will be a Domane as I find myself putting on longer slower miles these days.

[@rudyelizondo1935]

Great vid, I totally agree with you on the Domane. Also, 20 lbs is heavy in any road/gravel bike. Heavier weight means more exertion period, so you can’t travel further.

[@JGstunts22]

I find it funny when people complain over 1 or 2 lbs on a bike ...if u loose 2 lbs and boom all of a suden its lighter. A 240lbs guy on a 17lbs bike will not move faster than a 180lbs guy on a 20lbs bike lol

[@miket2646]

Traveling further is about comfort translating to staying fresher, longer.

[@emilioc700]

Built my 2020 Domane SLR with optional Pro Endurance geometry specifically for gravel racing. 54mm between forks and stays. Fits 42c no problem. Pro geometry perfect for gravel, low offset fork, low BB, shorter CS, longer TT, slightly steeper angles than standard. I think the SLR might have more tire clearance than standard, not sure. Google "2020 domane gravel build" to see my build.

[@ToddJones]

I googled it, a lot of stuff comes up, can you be more specific?

[@ToddJones]

Never mind, I’m guessing it’s the orange one. Beauty bike man, I’ll give you a shout out on my next video.

[@ToddJones]

Email me photos or share a google drive link or youtube link with a video of your bike to [e-mail] and i'll feature it in my next video if you'd like.

[@emilioc700]

done!

[@clobber66]

Checkpoint over Domane it’s more versatile plus I ride emonda if it’s purely road. The Domane is a void all of its own it’s geared more for road riders who want to ride a wider tire in winter with mudguards? Thinking about that they may as well buy a checkpoint? I bought checkpoint to get rid of my super fly which was mainly used on canal towpaths. I still have a fuel if I want to go MTB riding.

[@ToddJones]

I’ve had similar thoughts, sounds like you have it figured out, thanks for sharing.

[@craigwoodgate8804]

I have the domane SL 5 and its a great bike

[@V.Philly]

@Land of bikes .. if you had to choose between domane SL5 or Roubaix sport, which would you pick? (2022)

[@zodgzod]

I have an SL4 that I bought last year (the only 58cm Domane I could find in the UK last June) with the Tiagra swapped out for 105 (mechs) and Ultegra (cassette and brakes), but the change that has made the greatest difference is swapping the 2.1kgBontrager Affinity wheels with tubes for Hunt Aero 50 carbon wheels (sub-1.5kg) and Challenge Strada Bianca tubeless tyres. The bike is now under 9kg (just) and even more comfortable. It's a joy to ride.

[@zodgzod]

Oh and I lost 6kg too. That made the most difference!

[@josephbrakohiapa5815]

hello LOB aka Mr. skittles (that was a good one) - it's fairly flat where I live and depending on the wind conditions on any day I can go road or gravel. I've been leaning towards the checkpoint as it seems a purpose build gravel that can go road. whereas the Domane seems like a road endurance bike that can go gravel. 1) is that a fair statement..? cause, I'm a bit stuck. priority is comfort and handling. 2) if I go checkpoint do I sacrifice much when I hit the road..? 3) also, I have no experience with a 1x11 and assuming I should go for the 50/34 option to road days - but curious your thoughts. you sort of answered the question in your stream of consciousness at the end but your specific feedback is appreciated.

[@ToddJones]

Joseph Brakohiapa hey Joseph, thanks for the question. If you had to pick between the two I would weigh how much road vs gravel, and what type of roads/gravel. If the roads are super smooth and the gravel is packed, I’d go Domane, it is an amazing bike that is extremely capable. I just rode with my uncle who has an SLR and he kicked my butt up every climb. So the bike can climb too. If the roads are pitted then riding a wider tire like a 28 or 32 is just as fast and way more comfortable, so really either bike, but riding loose/rougher gravel the Checkpoint may be the one to go with. If you find you need 28mm tires then that is better suited for the road (Domane) bike, as running 28’s on the Checkpoint is fine but not ideal. In the end I think you can see how I find it hard to reason through this decision, and ultimately I’d recommend trying both before you buy. You can’t really go wrong with either.

[@rbrock2928]

thinking about upgrading my heavy oe wheelset on my Crockett 5, and was looking at the Aeolus Pro 3V. However this review is making me think twice. What are your impressions of the new Paradigm 25 Comp?

[@arturnaumiuk8135]

R Brock look into Fulcrums

[@allenk9342]

"If it is just road and you want a comfortable road bike, gran fondo bike, a bike that can handle a wire tire then honestly buy last year Demone. It's probably on sales and it's phenomenal bike and it's lighter" I was struggling to decide either buying a used 2018 Demone SLR frame and build according to my liking and budget or a brand new 2020 Demone SL6. The above conclusion pretty much sums it up and I am going to call the seller for now (hopefully still available) cause that's exactly my intention of swapping my caliber Cervelo R5 for the disc Domane. Thanks!

[@gniewnyloki]

What is your impression in comparising Domane previous generation for the newest one? Which is better in road performance?

[@ToddJones]

Until I ride the new one it’s hard to say. But comparing SL6 models I’d go with the 19 as it stands. I don’t need to go wiser than a 32mm tire, but that’s me.

[@josephirvan707]

what is better ? 2020 domane sl6 or 2019 domane sl6 from price and performance points

[@philweezer4763]

I am interested in a new Domane but I'm curious on your reason to get last year's model. There is still a 2019 SL6 at my LBS. Between the two, the geometry is the same with some visual differences probably from the aero "upgrades". Also the 2020/2021 has the larger downtube with the internal storage. Those are probably what contributed to the weight gain, but I'm guessing the rest is the same. The newer one has the internal storage, can fit wider tires, cleaner internal wiring, and T47 BB. Even though the 2109 is about the same price as a new SL5, I've been reading stay away from the BB90 like the plague even though it has an Ultegra groupset.

[@ToddJones]

My reasoning for staying with the old frame and not feeling the need to upgrade is based on the older frame being lighter, costing a lot less and still being an amazing road bike. My rational is that if you are using it for road riding and don’t plan to venture into gravel then the older model is still amazing and can be had at a great price. The new model is fantastic tho, so which ever one you end up with you’ll be very happy. And yes visually the bike has changed, it does get aero styling and wider tire clearance. So it will come down to your riding preference. Ultimately if you do go with the older model and ride mostly toad you aren’t missing out too much...

[@philweezer4763]

@@ToddJones Fair points. I would've bought the 2019 already but reading how (universally) bad the BB90 is, made me stop and hesitate. I know there is nothing wrong with press-fit BB's and its more of the manufacturer's tolerances. But if I'm spending that kind of money, I don't want to deal with known problems. I know Trek's warranty is pretty good, but you never know unless you have to go through it. I'm still thinking it over, maybe too much...

[@ToddJones]

Philweezer it is a valid point to consider. I personally rode Trek road, cross and mountain bikes for years and never had an bb90 issues.

[@gypsygear4102]

Sorry, first time watching your channel, but i can't put any weight to your opinion when you don't ride the bike.

[@paul_hd1875]

So if you go to your LBS is it a requirement that your rep own and ride every single bike in the shop? Probably not. Point being... one doesn't need to own or ride the bike to know things like, geometry, weight, aerodynamics... etc... to recommend it to a specific rider.

[@johnnste1]

I got the previous model SLR6 for half the price of the new SLR6, couldn’t be happier with it. I think it’s internal cable routing into the down tube looks better than the new bike’s going into the top tube too. The new prices are just ridiculous. You could buy a decent motorbike for the same price.

[@salsalawyer]

I have the same bike in BLK and gray. Major discount but I couldn't tell the difference

[@ssejati]

How would you compare to Roubaix or diverge ? Which one is better now ?

[@benjaminshowalter2058]

You aren’t really doing an apples to apples comparison. Those carbon wheels alone would’ve shaved well over a pound off the weight of the bike, had you not been weighing them with 38 mm gravel tires.

[@cdofm]

I have the Domane AL3 and I thought this would be a nice upgrade but it is as heavy as my AL3 for no weight savings I really can't justify the cost difference.

[@k-mac5511]

What about the components? Would that be an upgrade?

[@cdofm]

@@k-mac5511 I now use the domane on my indoor trainer and I have upgraded to the specialized roubaix which is quite a bit lighter and has the ultegra di2. I couldnt turn down the deal I was offered for it. 50% off the 6800 dollar price tag was the deal maker for me.

[@k-mac5511]

Chris O that’s a steal of a deal! How sweet!

[@mikechivy]

How much faster do you think the Madone is over the Domane? Whether its last years or this years Domane? I am so torn on which one I want. Its an expensive mistake.

[@sweetgrassdairy8482]

Just got a Madone. Riding a 2018 Domane. 3 to 4 mph faster averages for me.

[@ToddJones]

Depends how fast you ride normally. The faster you average the more benefit you’d get from the aero bike. Also, what’s your riding position like, and aero helmet? How deep are the wheels? It can potentially make a big difference.

[@fernandodasilva2662]

É possível colocar rodas 650b , e qual seria a maior medida de pneus ?

[@DolleHengst]

There are full suspension XC bikes out there that are lighter than this road bike! Available to the public, stock. Domane should be an endurance marathon bike. Around 8 to 8.5kg with Ultegra. Including pedals. If i want a gravel bike, i'll buy the Checkpoint.

[@joeengg1813]

This weighs almost same as my Bmc teamelite te02 hard tail.

[@DC-ih8bv]

Riding a checkpoint alr 5 now. I just need that sweet spot cause I think it’s just a bit beefy on the road ( plus I’m 195 lbs ). I sold my Cervelo R3 cause it was too light for me and I was overpowering it. Looking for something in the middle. Would this be a faster ride ? A lighter ride ?

[@k-mac5511]

Yes it will. I think it will be everything you're looking for, wanting, and then some. Its a great endurance, do-it-all, ride anywhere bike.

[@seanganesh421]

Us heavier guys need stability and comfort above all else. Light riders will never understand this. I got this bike and I'm loving it. I ride some poor tar roads and good gravel. Its fantastic!