The PeopleMover is STILL Dead

[@ConnorCampbell-ch5mk]

This title is blasphemy, we all know it’s getting announced atD23 2026… right guys?

[@Lumber91]

POV im delusional

[@michaelhafey5670]

Facts! I checked it it’s on the top of their to do list

[@nicholastell8626]

…right?😅

[@Protato_Gamer]

For sure 👌🏻👌🏻👌🏻 practically confirmed at this point

[@FrappeInsider]

Guys get all excited because in 2026.. we will finally..... the unused structure.... that moves people.... ROCKET RODS WILL REOPEN!!!! Thanks guys go buy our merch. Okay bye.

[@ryan7032]

You think they're waiting for the 80th? The 75th is RIGHT THERE and it's an extremely big milestone!!

[@tufab3494]

You got a point actually

[@jerseyforhawks]

US: "we want the People Mover back". Disney: "Kick rocks, suckers".

[@katef96]

Trifecta of things fans want that Disney refuses to do: 1. Revamp Disneyland’s Tomorrowland 2. Bring Imagination back to its former glory 3. Fix the yeti

[@kdusel1991]

I really want number 2 and 3 to happen!

[@SlackerWannaB]

IF the concept art is at all accurate, the Avatar thing will be A ride…..and that’s about it.

[@joncarlos716]

Cost 💲 to much money

[@katef96]

@@joncarlos716 They’re willing to spend money gutting Rivers of America though, so…

[@kdaddy310]

I’m so tired of every new attraction being IP….

[@Paperheart0405]

I recently went on the PeopleMover for the first time. It 100% lived up to the hype.

[@kdusel1991]

I'm assuming you mean the magic kingdom one. It's so relaxing! It's lowkey one of my favorite rides in tomorrowland over there.

[@LiquidSteel_04]

@@kdusel1991 yeah.. the only one that exists

[@papapalps3513]

I’m a cast member at the Disneyland resort, I and many cast members are in full support of Tomorrowland getting a full redo. I have a full written report surrounding ideas and what could be done to Tomorrowland. I’ve been expressing these ideas to many cast members and they all appear to be in support of this. Because of that, I might as well dump this full thing here. WARNING, this is all just ideas with basic descriptions, so it’s not 100% fleshed out or perfect, here it is - Tomorrowland: This Beautiful World Intro: Tomorrowland is a place for children to grow and learn and to better understand the futures of tomorrow and what we can take away from it. It is for them to be both educated in the sciences and technologies of tomorrow while they are mystified by the wonders of then and fantasy. Outdated and modern is not a concept of Tomorrowland, beauty, reality, possibilities and plausibilities are what made Tomorrowland so special. This current iteration has lost that, relying on franchises and current concepts rather than pushing the boundaries of the future and its stories. Star Wars isn’t the future, Buzz Lightyear is the past and now, Autopia is long outdated and the Finding Nemo submarines are of the past. Tomorrowland needs to change, it needs to evolve beyond such crutches and stand as a place of new wonders and ideas of what tomorrow may hold for the newer generations. Attractions Star Tours New Name: Adventures Through Outer Space - Join Star pilot Nova and his AI companion Celeste as they give you a guided tour through the stars (Courtesy of the Outer-galactic Touring Corporation) - Nova and Celeste will give you a peaceful tour of our universe, launching from various space stations from various planets - Explore many a cosmic phenomena and structures, nebulas, planets, galaxies, stars, and much more… - Hijinks ensue as chaos is brought at every destination, whether that be cosmic events, fantastical space creatures, or even other humans who may want control of your ship - Nova would be an A-1000 animatronic (or the newest version whenever it would be made) with both him and Celeste bouncing off each other comedically, bringing an extra dynamic similar to C-3PO and R2-D2 - Nova would also interact with guests at the beginning, introducing himself and their tour - Star Tours itself would be rebuilt in Galaxy’s Edge, with the new iteration still retaining the current ride system (space travel can be rough) Buzz Lightyear Astroblasters New Name: Future Horizons: The Cities of Tomorrow - A peaceful, atmospheric and educationally focused attraction focusing on future developments of infrastructure and cityscapes and the future of civilization - Each section focusing on different aspects of civilization (transportation, sustainable living, better infrastructure, work and education, cultures and cities) - Utilize the space, top notch screen base technology, forced perspective, illusions and practical props and animatronics would give a sense of size and scale, tricking the mind into believing they’re in a much larger and grand space than they actually are Space Mountain - Unchanged, perhaps minor aesthetic and queue updates (so it doesn’t look like a dead mall) as well as updated projections and effects. Beyond that, it would stay the same Star Wars: Launch Bay - Reverted back to the Carousel of Progress, with state of the art animatronics and a new show, shows the progress of technology within the household. The timeline will be stretched out to accommodate for a final scene exemplifying the future of household technology (for example; Scene 1: 1920s, Scene 2: 2000s, Scene 3: 2080s, Scene 4: 2160s) - The second floor of the building, above Carousel of Progress, can become a smaller version of innoventions, an exhibit and lounge area, a place to see what future technologies within the home and beyond are to come Autopia New Name: Tron: Lightcycle Run - A brand new, original version of the coaster purpose built around the nature that surrounds Autopia - Focuses on virtual reality and how we incorporate the natural world into our virtual environments - Low to the ground lightcycle dueling coaster with a Blue and Orange team racing against one another in an intense and sharp lightcycle battle - The iconic white show building for Lightcycle Run would be rebuilt around the load station where Autopia’s queue and load station is - Half tunnels would be built around the track, lighting effects to simulate the light that trails the light cycles, similar to that of California Screamin (Incredicoaster). Hexagonal patters would fill the rest of the tunnel, lighting as well trialing behind the light cycles - At the end, as the cycles reach back into the show building, the winner’s color would flash along the show building, indicating who won the battle - Speeds would be random, each launch section having a random speed between 43 - 45 mph. This allows races to be close while still being intense and a winner being determined - This also allows the peoplemover and monorail to stay, as this coaster is low to the ground and wouldn’t intrude on their structures Submarine Voyage New Name: 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea - Revert back to 20,000 Leagues - New technology, better animatronics, educating children on deep sea exploration and the future of such exploration based on future technology - A ride that also teaches children fear, to embrace their fears, to step into the dark, and for them to recognize that things aren’t as scary as they seem at that it will always be ok Peoplemover / Astro Orbiter - The peoplemover would return, the track all clean and repaired with new narrations and new indoor show scenes showing off the rides and atmosphere of Tomorrowland. Perhaps added effects as well as the peoplemover traverses around Lightcycle Run - The Astro orbiter would also return to be above the peoplemover, bringing more thrills and a beautiful view of Disneyland. Also get rid of the Jules Verne aesthetic so that it fits more with the new aesthetic that would be brought to Tomorrowland (to be discussed in the “atmosphere section”) Shopping Tomorrow Landing - Would no longer exist to accommodate for queue space and anything extra for the people mover Star Trader - Retain the name, but instead would focus on non-IP merchandise and new and original merchandise focusing on the rides and experiences within this new Tomorrowland. Perhaps some Star Wars merchandise may remain, but that shouldn’t be the majority (we have Galaxy’s Edge) - C-3PO and R2-D2 can stay in the display window cause that’s cute Little Green Men Store Command New Name: Future Exchange - City based toys and devices and sets. Perhaps the Lego city sets and vehicle sets can be here for children. Holy original building and collectors sets as well can be sold here. Smaller toys and sets too Dining Galactic Grill - Can stay as is, perfect little quick service stop with a nice entertainment option (Tomorrowland Terrace), obvious aesthetic adjustments would be needed though Alien Pizza Planet - Retain the name “Pizza Planet” remove all elements of Toy Story and the aliens - Also update aesthetics to fit with the rest of the land and blend with space mountain Entertainment Tomorrowland Terrace - Bring back shows, perhaps 2 to 3 times a night, have dj’s and bands playing, bringing back entertainment to Tomorrowland Tomorrowland Theater - Either bring back Captain EO or an entirely new short film that would be played every other hour - Perhaps within the hours when the film isn’t playing, the Disneyland band can step in and provide some type of 15 minute stage show for guests or some other type of theater entertainment Starcade - Bring back Starcade, a new and innovative arcade showing off the latest in arcade and video game technology - Should be FREE FOR GUESTS. Guests already pay so much to get in, perhaps a custom time limit guests can establish for how long they want to stay, ranging from 20 minutes - 1 hour. They can leave as they please, not having to abide by the time limit once they’ve set it - People also can’t just hog a game forever, limits on how long you can play such as lives or a time limit would be established too to give other people a chance to play Atmosphere - Retro Futurism for the aesthetic, it’s the aesthetic of the future and what the world seems to be leaning into - Sharp points, rounded edges, pearly whites - Whites, deep yet vibrant blues and blacks should be the primary color choices with natural tone greens complimenting gently with nature - Plants and natural life should all remain, leaning into the emphasis on our own planet and nurturing it - The sphere in front of Pizza planet and Space Mountain should be changed to a beautiful display of the Earth, with ships swirling around it. Again, even though space and beyond our Earth has emphasis, it’s still about our own home and we should celebrate that rather than run away from it

[@lizs-js7dp]

There’s 100% chance they are throwing that in the bin

[@kdusel1991]

​@@lizs-js7dp yeah they would never change star tours to some original IP.

[@Tryingtohaveityall]

Why isn’t this the top comment. All this is perfect

[@Trainlover1995]

Lovely idea, but unfortunately, Disney won’t go for it. It doesn’t have enough IP-based rides, and that’s all Disney wants as a form of aggressively hawking merchandise of said IPs.

[@brittanyjsheets5115]

“We want a full redo!” So here’s 7 things we can revert BACK to…

[@tufab3494]

10:00 Dallin moving on to covering Epic Universe because of their Yoshi Omni-People-Mover would most likely be a sign of the end of the days. This man would become a real menace in no time, that's for sure lol

[@LittleNepotiz]

Therapy might help. I hear they even have a special diagnosis and treatment program for people obsessed with trains.

[@abee948]

STOP LOL

[@1unartic]

Yeah but is it worth supporting the unethical child torture?

[@michaelsullivan3581]

Therapy for people who are so deranged that they are not obsessed with trains? Ah, now that makes sense!

[@kdusel1991]

At least the peoplemover at the magic kingdom isn't dead.

[@happilyevanafter]

Yet. Bob, josh, and jeff will destroy it one day.

[@toyaliens]

nope

[@SlushysSecret]

Yes but their rivers of America is dead

[@toyaliens]

Beats decaying tracks!

[@kdusel1991]

​@@SlushysSecret we still have time to enjoy the rivers! Honestly I wouldn't mind if they kept the rivers but got rid of Tom Sawyer island

[@JP-1990]

Imagine if each land had a people mover. So for example Not only would we have a shiny and chrome one for tomorrowland, but you could have one in frontierland that looks like mine cars on a big wooden track, and in Fantasyland you could have pretty carriages on top of a fake Stone aqueduct looking thing. The possibilities are endless.

[@marskristin]

Yes please! I'd also take a Skyway across the park.

[@jasonrussell9637]

Rocket Rods Was a blight upon Disneyland

[@detsuh]

I got to ride Rocket Rods twice…. I also got stuck on Rocket Rods when it broke down twice.😕

[@AdCab77]

I went on it a few times. Didn’t break while I was on it.

[@alankroll1734]

I stood in line for 3 hours for Rocket Rods the year it opened 🙄

[@wraithkelso]

So I know a lot if Disneyland fans desperately want the Peoplemover back, but I think the “normies” (the average guest) couldn’t care less about it and just appreciate the shade the old tracks give the main walkway into TL. Personally I lean more that way myself however, I do want to see a return of a Peoplemover to Disneyland Resort, just not where most fans have suggested before. Iirc Peoplemover is an electric run mode of transportation while the trams are on a gas and the buses are most likely not electric. I want to see the Peoplemover replace the trams, and also be a way to get people from the future Eastern Gateway site to the esplanade without having to walk because that walk is going to SUCK at night after a long day at the parks. Walt’s vision of the Monorail and Peoplemover was a world on the move with intermodal transportation. So I propose that they honor the spirit of that idea and actually use it as a functional transportation system rather than a ride in the park.

[@jetsons101]

Not to date myself but I've been going to Disneyland when Holiday Hill was still there. I feel so lucky to have spent so much time on the Peoplemover, the Flying Saucer were lame. I still live close to Disneyland and now I take my grandson there MANY times a year. Dallin, "Never give up on the Peoplemover" Stay strong.....

[@DapperIndividual]

Realistically i dont see them redoing Tomorrowland or any other Disneyland attractions until after Disneyland Forward is complete. Closing down a huge chuck of the park like Tomorrowland will cause the overflow of guests to explode in the rest of the park, overfilling the capacity. When Disneyland Forward is complete, they're gonna have essentially another park to be able to corral any guests into while construction is happening in the main park.

[@TacoEX1]

And “Forward” will be “complete” in…what? 30-40 years? How many more legacy-attractions will be killed off or changed for “modern-audiences” til then?

[@zeroraptor_]

They're already doing that with New Orleans Square and Critter Country right now.

[@edfett7677]

I just want to be moved!😭

[@TacoEX1]

Bob says no.

[@stephanieferguson723]

My daughter is a junior in high school and she wants to be an imagineer. She loves art and robots and rides and Disney is secretly waiting for her to graduate because she has a great plan for all the Tomorrowlands in all the parks. Just wait a few years and she will fix it Dallin. She hears you.

[@johnnada.]

I’m with you about the Peoplemover - glad you’re carrying this torch ✌️❤️

[@jamesgeorgi6627]

Even Figment getting an update didn’t get confirmed yet. Kind of on the same spot as Disneyland’s Peoplemover

[@kdusel1991]

I hope figment gets an update! Imagination definitely needs a change!

[@fredlopez5213]

What makes that worse is how they teased Figment walking into Imagineering last year for what now seems to be nothing.

[@kdusel1991]

​@@fredlopez5213 I think changing figment to somehow work within the world of inside out/inside out 2 would work brilliantly.

[@MidwesternDiva]

They also teased IllumiNations (the greatest Disney fireworks show of all time) coming back with the music, and then nothing.

[@kdusel1991]

I miss illuminations so much!! Luminous is fine and it's at least better than the hot garbage that was harmonious. but nothing and I mean, NOTHING will ever top illuminations!! Scrapping illuminations for harmonious was a huge mistake imho. Random disney IP just thrown together doesn't belong in Epcot. At least with luminous, the IP is integrated into the storyline of the show. Harmonious made no sense.

[@TacoEX1]

Truly shocked…

[@kdusel1991]

​@@TacoEX1 I will say that I do like luminous. The remember me/when she loved me mashup always makes me cry a little.

[@kevb7451]

I missed this.. when did the tease illuminations?

[@The_AGL_Group]

Pretty sure that was just a throwback alongside other historical park music and not meant as a hint. If they were suggesting that IllumiNations would return so soon, it'd be a massive black eye to the company for them to make *three* replacement shows only to scrap it all and go back. It would be nice for IllumiNations to return some time, but I doubt a remake would be anytime soon with how much money they already spent on trying to make a modernized night show for Epcot (music production and pyrotechnic engineering aren't cheap).

[@tufab3494]

14:44 "my YT diet will consist solely of Haunted Mansion and S.E.A." Please Dallin, PLEAAAAAASE. I'm starving for the old HM/Pirates/SEA focused content for a while now 😭 If Disney can't make their fans happy, at least make YOUR fans happy! Don't be to us what Disney has been to you (us all actually) 😅😂 (Rocket rods btw. What a journey those 3 videos were)

[@naosei3392]

Yes, please! Let's give a break to Living with the Land and the People Mover and come back to the Disney lore and original attractions again, may we? 🙃

[@Caleb-lc7tf]

Well, there’s always the Yoshi peoplemover, huh?

[@MarvinMartinez2001]

Here’s hoping The Fantastic Four turns out a success and Disney will see it and try to utilize retro futurism again into Tomorrowland and maybe people mover can come

[@ForEverEcsTasY]

When they build Pandora in the Simba lot, put COCO in the paradise grill area or Pier (OR next to the Pixar Place hotel) AND keep the Hollywood lot area open & available for now… UNTIL they build a Zootopia land there AFTER Zootopia 2 is released, they’ll make it a 2026 D23 announcement WITH Tomorrow Land news as well 😉

[@kdusel1991]

I'm just glad they're not changing the dinoland/tropical americas land to Zootopia land in AK.

[@blkbelt42]

💯

[@Quetzalcoatl_Feathered_Serpent]

Disney is likely going to avoid any massive changes to tomorrow land at least until they have established new lands or parks in the area. I feel this is their main plan as they know a major land refurbishment and change causes massive disruption. Pretty sure once they begin major changes to California adventure and expansion of the new gate and perhaps any major restoration or refurbishment of other areas of Disneyland they can go back to the people mover and tomorrow land. Its obvious now. That tommorowland and the people mover are linked. When we finally get word of the plans of the former people mover, it will be linked to the future of tommowland.

[@DimitriyMykhaylovDisneyFan]

I Was Very Upset that Tomorrowland Still Wasn't Mentioned nor Touched during this Year's D23, Especially with Figment

[@kdusel1991]

I was hoping figment would be mentioned and maybe some updates to Disney world's tomorrowland. Maybe something to do with the old alien encounter/stitch ride or maybe them scrapping the monsters inc show.

[@BadgerBarf]

Let’s go, an Offhand video is the perfect gift on a Saturday morning!

[@chloewildner167]

I have to admit, when Mirror said, “A land twisted and ruined…” I actually thought of Tomorrowland in DL first.

[@gregrhoades7320]

Rocket Rods... Is there any of your Disney fan connections that could make a CG POV video of what it would be like to ride the people mover at Disneyland today if it were functional? That would me awesome for that 4 hour people mover video

[@aaronochoa-fernandez2726]

Tomorrowland wouldn’t be tore down to bear or the foundation because their is a maintenance tunnel running from Buzz Lightyear Astro Blasters to the formers Innoventions Building. Innoventions building will stay because there is an access point for that maintenance tunnel. The people mover Loading Station is currently being used as Storage Space for The fruit cart in Tomorrowland and for the pin trading.But the Building itself was maintained over the years while the track is rottening away above Autopia.

[@dontgivetwothwips3615]

I think the Hades connection may be that you’ll get a people mover when hell freezers over.

[@Cymorill8]

What if they could refurbish the People Mover track to be a foot path? It’s a long walk, but surely they could add some sort of narration in the app that you could listen to on headphones, sort of a self-guided walking tour. How complicated could that be? It would be better than nothing.

[@Syrup-n3t]

As one of the biggest Disney land people mover fans, I’m sad that we did not get anything at D23😢

[@JaceL-ct3hq]

I am curious why anyone thinks this is ever coming back?

[@JoeyActionTV]

@@JaceL-ct3hqbecause the track is still there

[@JaceL-ct3hq]

@@JoeyActionTV There are some rotting tracks that have been neglected and were severely damaged in the conversion to Rocket Rods. There are portions of the track that have sense been closed off. I don't see how any of that planted the idea that it was coming back. Disney have never once made any indication they have any interest in doing so. It's been gone 30 years.

[@JoeyActionTV]

@@JaceL-ct3hq the point is, people can hope that disney can do something, with that space, like replace the tracks lol Its possible to do that ya know

[@JaceL-ct3hq]

@@JoeyActionTV Possible? Maybe. The tracks run through a lot of the structures and it would be very disruptive and expensive to do so. And for what purpose? To revive a ride that's been dead for 30 years that very few care for. I don't see it.

[@sorceress1986]

One of the rules of manifestation is to speak your dreams and hopes, KNOW the thing you ask for will manifest...and then DON'T fixate on them. Let them go. It's the Universe's job to manifest. You just have to be certain, SPEAK it into existence...and LET IT GO. Perhaps our fixation on the PeopleMover is stymying our manifestation............yes? yes?

[@MattMcIrvin]

I'll just observe that none of the later Tomorrowlands outside the US has a PeopleMover, because this isn't anything with any kind of "tomorrow" connotation any more--it's decidedly nostalgic, and, at best, a mundane feature of today at airports and a few other places. If they do ever remake Disneyland's Tomorrowland, a PeopleMover, identified as such, is not likely to be part of it. That said, I do like the idea of having lots of "vibes transportation" rides, PeopleMovers in Dallin's more general sense. This is something the Tokyo resort understands.

[@wheelindisney5874]

One thing I have to keep believing is that a few imagineers in a dark corner of Burbank have some plans for a new Tomorrowland they keep tucked away in a secret place - one that is better than your shelf. 😄 I just know it must be there. And one day, those plans will get dusted off and announced for the whole world to hear. As to the Peoplemover, I am now clinging to a fantasy that includes a third gate at the Toy Story lot, a new parking structure at the Manchester cast parking lot, and a Peoplemover connecting the two.

[@gabrielrush3492]

Probably on D23 in 2025 for the 70th anniversary of Disneyland, especially for the announcement of the PeopleMover, aka the Rocket Rods.

[@TheNeverlandersFamilyVlogs]

No! No! We can never give up on the return of The Peoplemover. Until the tracks are completely removed, I’ll still believe!

[@writerpatrick]

It just celebrated the 29th anniversary of it's closure.

[@richardespinoza2839]

If you look at the Tomorrowland Train station construction wall from the Autopia Queue, There’s a photo of the PeopleMover, right there. They know we want it back

[@SA12String]

Okay, look. I loved the PeopleMover. It was there all through my childhood, and I rode it every time I went to the park.....BUT! I loved the Rocket Rods. I feel privileged to have been one of the very first of the public to ride Rocket Rods. Don't hate on Rocket Rods because it, for a VERY limited time, took the place of the PeopleMover. I want to see them both back. Rocket Rods was essentially Radiator Springs Racers v0.1, and they learned a lot about the concept of a high speed racer type ride. A lot of what they learned involved the considerable damage that happens when a high G ride is put on a slow speed track, unfortunately. Still, I want the PeopleMover back. Updated, for sure, but I honestly wouldn't complain if they just put it back exactly as it was in 1978.

[@thedistorychannel]

I'm convinced that New Tomorrowland is next on the cards. We had New Toontown (2022-23), New New Orleans and Bayou Country (2023-24). Once that wraps up, we need them to announce a new attraction for Tomorrowland that will cause New Tomorrowland to happen 😊

[@bradleyh7582]

D23 will need to have Offhand Disney onstage when they announce the people mover's return. He could walk on and the crowd would know the announcement.

[@melodiemeldrum3918]

I have a whole Pinterest board dedicated to my dream version of Tomorrowland. I took a lot of inspiration from Singapore's Garden airport, which is both futuristic and lush with greenery and water. It also has a People Mover-esque tram. I think if Disney leaned into a "green future" model for the atmosphere of the land, they could rake in the sponsorships from any number of big energy corporations.

[@fredlopez5213]

Micechat reported before D23 that a Peoplemover-like attraction was being planned for a New Tomorrowland, but Disney was starting to consider a cheaper alternative and just build a DVC lounge in the loading station instead (to make up for Launch Bay being demolished for a new E-ticket). With the recent River of Americas and Red Car Trolley News, it might be worth keeping an eye on this rumor.

[@wordledad]

This was a very therapeutic coping mechanism video. The only thing moving people in the Disney Parks is Offhand.

[@NateDohDoubleGee]

Peoplemover Tomorrowland: Likely won't come back to Tomorrowland UNLESS they move Star Tours to Galaxy's Edge. Once they do that, they can work on a large amount of track replacement. Then they can finish the rest of the track when Space Mountain goes down for normal refurbishment. The rest can be blocked off and replaced in sections. Peoplemover Disney Forward: Putting a new Peoplemover in the new Disney Forward area to connect portions of the parks (multiple stops) has a much higher probability of actually happening. This is a functional version of the Peoplemover - which means it's no longer a thing of tomorrow. Don't be sad though - that means they will have to create something from tomorrow in Tomorrowland!

[@EverScrolls]

I also miss the Rocket Rods. I got to ride it twice as a child and it was insanely fun.

[@MannyEmm]

Thank you D! Bring back Peoplemover!! I remember riding the PM snd reading the, keep you hands and arms and legs inside at all times, sign…yet, look at Mickey, sitting with his arm, clearly outside the moving vehicle! If I had my way, I would forget that Disneyland future or whatever they call it, the area by the hotels, and focus on Tomorrowland. Why create whole new areas, which could potentially cause breakdowns, when we have a land INSIDE the park, which needs TLC! It’s like NASA, spending Billions on space exploration, to see what’s out there and to live in a Space Station, when there are so many problems on Earth, which, if they spent the billions here, can fix a lot of those problems. Come in, Disney….Josh….whoever….don’t be like NASA !

[@ner.tan11]

I really hope they at least keep the overhead track's design in tomorrowland, if they don't bring back the people movers. I really like how the overhead stretches of track feels and the style that it adds to tomorrowland. Even if it is decades old at this point, it still makes it feel futuristic. it's not a design you experience anywhere else and it makes for a fun experience when you're simply walking around

[@seaskiguy]

You said it shows that Disney ignoring Tomorrowland is because they want to do it right. I sadly disagree. I think it's because the corporation has lost imagination. They are too heavily focused on nothing but IP, and refuse to commit $ to anything original. Disney has always used IP, obviously, but that has also been balanced with original attractions. No more. It's like going to nothing but a commercial - still fun - but a commercial without the real magic and attention to detail that was Disney. I only need to mention the addition of a Cars-themed attraction in Frontierland filling in the Rivers of America to prove my point. Ridiculous.

[@elansmith9291]

With the direction they are taking things, Tomorrowland and people mover are likely to replaced with some kind of IP, demolishing the whole land maybe even including space mountain

[@very.happy.ben.]

if disney is planning on more than just an autopia refresh, then I think it would be logical for them move onto the innoventions building + submarine voyage as the next parts of the project. if they end up doing this, it could be feasible for the people mover to return *eventually*. Also they could just finish electric autopia and announce people mover next but i doubt it. considering half of the inside parts of the mover are either abandoned or empty.

[@DonnyG02]

Great video as always! Maybe one day it will be back….Keep up the great work!

[@nf1nk]

To get a new Tomorrowland, we must first find a positive vision of the future. There just hasn't really been one of those since they tore down the Rocket Rods.

[@richguggenheim]

Unpopular take: Build a wall around all of the Tomorrowlands. At DLR keep Space Mountain, and tear out EVERYTHING (yes, including Star Tours) else.the submarine and all that was once part of gummy glenn.(Is that part of Fantasy land or tomorrow land?) There is plenty of real estate there to put in 7Dwarfs or Tron, or some other e- ticket attraction.

[@TheWonderfulworldofkohlten1]

There has to be some people who works at Walt Disney Imagineering watching this video

[@parabolicphantom]

Dang Dallin. There's something about seeing that "Previously..." title card pop up that just sent me laughing.

[@nickliefo4997]

we need a Wall E takeover of the people mover, to give it an educational purpose but also to somehow have a way to sell snacks while you ride

[@DaffyTaffy93]

Why isn’t Wall-e at Disney in some type of ride that just makes so much sense

[@kdusel1991]

​@@DaffyTaffy93 they could scrap the monsters inc show at WDW and turn it into a WALL-E ride! That show honestly belongs in the new monsters inc land that's coming to Hollywood Studios!

[@frostedwheatly3879]

Okay, okay, hear me out: The Marvel Mover.

[@aliceincraftland3388]

I remember when Fantasyland at Disneyland was redone in 83. They move the tea cups right next to the Alice ride and moved the carousel where the tea cups where (if I remember correctly). I know it would take a lot more rebuilding of Tomorrowland and getting the People Mover working, but its not usual for Disney moving rides around.

[@punkuhr]

My beliefs on what they’re going to do with Tomorrowland is that they will continue to put it on the back burner. New rides and new lands (Disneyland Forward, items announced at D23 2024) are going to pull more guests in, and the expanded new area means you can pack in more guests and make more money. Fixing stuff doesn’t pull in much more money and doesn’t mean more occupancy. Once they are forced to renovate (or run out of expansion area), it seems like they are going to do exactly what you touched on. Tear almost all of it down and start fresh. I think the best thing they could do is return it to its former theme/former glory and make it a 50’s look at what the future could be. Retro future. Current times the future is tomorrow as new things and technologies are created daily and boundaries are pushed faster than ever before. Any future 2120 theme would be surpassed within years.

[@rmannayr2129]

JUST BRING THE PEOPLEMOVER BACK!

[@dis-springs]

*Rocket Rods.* It bugs when people keep talking about "fixing" the Yeti. Especially since the simple solution is hiding right underneath that stupid strobe light. Here are the 3 steps... Step 1: Hire engineers to remove the existing Yeti. Plasma cutters, reciprocating saws, sledge hammers, crowbars -- whatever it takes. Step 2: Hire a second team of engineers to reinforce the ride and structure so that continues to work reliably and safely. Step 3: Task Imagineering to review the empty area. Then have them design and create a brand new Yeti animatronic that they can install into that space. Or, if necessary, one that they can build and install WITHIN that space. A brand new animatronic built with lighter and stronger materials and 2024 technology. Problem solved.

[@RUE-FLA]

You forgot step 4. Figuring out a way for it to positively affect the stock price. Because unless you can do that, the project doesn't have a chance in hell of getting green lit.

[@Undrave]

I bet if the Tomorrowland movie had been a hit they would have went through with a refit of the entire land...

[@ConnorCampbell-ch5mk]

The Jean Lafitte pronunciation reference 😂 brilliant Dallin, brilliant

[@DrStarlander]

I'm hoping they announce a Tomorrowland overhaul at D23 in 2026 for opening for Disneyland's 75th Anniversary in 2030. That may be too tight of a construction timeline though. If so, they could close most of Tomorrowland (retain access to Space Mountain from Plaza Inn area?) and start demolition before D23 and then use D23 to tell us exactly what is coming with a model. I would like Tomorrowland to take on more of a dense, detail-filled "future city" feeling (by dense and detail-filled I mean like Zootopia at Shanghai) instead of the 3-4 giant landmark world's fair-like buildings Tomorrowland has had so far. I want to walk around in a vibrant retro-futuristic city.

[@ReverendPuck]

I want a COMPLETE redo of Tomorrowland, but I also want to move Star Tours over to Galaxy Edge where it belongs. And I want the Peoplemovers to return, but I'm looking at connecting both ends of Downtown Disney and parking lots and even the Hotels on the west there. Maybe look to changing the route of the Monorail as well to expand it into the areas we know are coming.

[@rmannayr2129]

WE NEED THE PEOPLEMOVER BACK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@SluiceGooseProspecting]

We are spoiled here with the people mover at WDW. It's a great ride to just get off your feet and relax.

[@ChristinaCavaness]

I loved the people mover as a kid and as an adult.Its a nice relaxing ride and I wish they would bring it back

[@thomasstanley3008]

It’s looking now like the only way we can get the peoplemover back is if it’s tied to a proven marketable IP. So, maybe they need pitches for movie tie-ins that wouldn’t completely insult the audience? I mean, it used to be the original Tron attraction. For what it’s worth, if I was able to afford to attend D23 and go that panel at the Honda Center, I would have started a Peoplemover clap-along chant at some point during the presentation. It was at a sports venue after all, so I feel it would have been appropriate. Or maybe I could’ve held up a sign saying “Peoplemover 3:16.” Sigh.. missed opportunities.

[@toshibavoodoo]

PEOPLEMOVER such an easy win for Disneyland! Poor leadership....

[@Gooby-boobbby]

Disneyland is better off without the people mover lol

[@toshibavoodoo]

People Mover, and a new SkyWay that goes around MAtterHorn would be spectacular! Both could be next level, with reverence for past Disneyland. NOTHING BUT LOVE.

[@quakercarlos1]

i think the new people mover should be a Wall- E ride

[@wdwnutjm]

I never got to ride the "Rocket Rods" but I'm guessing we must have ridden the People Mover the first time we went to Disneyland in the early 90s. GREAT 3 part video!!

[@michaelschroeck2254]

I’ve never been to Anaheim ( as I call it) but know people who are passionate about the people mover and have learned so much about it. Honestly I don’t know how they could possibly bring it back and update the track since it is a huge part of the land. They would havecro close Tomorrowland for a couple years to make this happen. Unless they get good planners who can devise a way to repair the tracks in sections…..to me an older Imagineering from the 90’s could come up with a way, but the newest crop I don’t think has the wherewithal.

[@experiment626eventing]

Hi dallin i think one day you need to do a video on the extremist of extremely rare characters to meet, ive fallen down a rabbit hole and im talking characters like Friar tuck, Bowler hat guy, Rabbit from pooh, Duffy, etc. Hope u take this into consideration

[@Kyle_The_Mighty]

I don't know if it will take as long as you said, but I don't think they can do a Tomorrowland renovation quite yet. If they're going to completely close an entire land, they need have those people go somewhere else and they can't do that yet. Once at least something is done with Disneyland Forward, then you can start to see a Tomorrowland renovation

[@jeffreycharles5035]

Everyone dropping HHN videos today and Offhands here with the Peoplemover content!

[@cheshires_top_cat]

This made me very sad. I don't want to live in a world where offhand disney doesn't hold out hope for the peoplemover. I refuse. Change your mind!~ Hold out hope!

[@GarethMonteiro-ul5mj]

I guess the anticipation for a potential announcement was the only thing Moving.. People forward in their seats..

[@2012myles]

I would not be shocked if Fantastic 4 is part of a future Tomorrowland overhaul. The concept art I’ve seen from the upcoming movie might fit.

[@joncarlos716]

Disney never finishes any concepts to spec it’s just a scaled back version of the og version now

[@CDRachelsauthorofMMroman-ee4ci]

towards the end you remind me of that scene from always sunny where charlie is going mad with the photos on the corkboard. i kept expecting you to spell out the words "ROCKET rods" somehow.

[@thedisneycentralhub5876]

Maybe the Disneyland Peoplemover are the friends we’ve made along the way

[@Alex-sh2ll]

I think they’re just redoing all the rides so they can say when epic universe opens that they have a “new park” too. It could be to Disneys benefit if crowd size stays small because they’re not increasing capacity.

[@powerpup97]

When you showed all the footage of D23, I was looking hard to see if I could find me anywhere. Maybe if I knew what times you shot that footage, I could estimate where I was at that time.

[@MCastleberry1980]

As cool as the Villains Land sounds, I definitely saw that and thought "Dark Universe at Universal has them worried" lol

[@kazuthesamurai7346]

Come to Chiba, where the Oriental Land Company takes care of and upgrades Tomorrowland unlike Disney

[@jondbm]

Tomorrowland? More like Damaroland. There will need to be a movie with a Peoplemover type vehicle in it that they can attach an IP to before they would bring it back.

[@Atyomommahouse-p2m]

Need a big hero 6 redo style version of the people mover

[@sunshinesky6926]

Rocket Rods.. had the same seating arrangement as Splash Mountain (DL)

[@ZeroExperiment]

Thank you for your optimism and hope, Mr Offhand. I personally have lost faith with disney, so your positive outlook is refreshing! I’m just waiting for prices to go down so I can go eat a churro and sniff the tasty Pirates water

[@DannyNoval-i6d]

I have a theory about the future of Tomorrowland, particularly in relation to the PeopleMover and the overall redesign. With Tokyo Disneyland's Space Mountain undergoing a major upgrade, we've seen designs that emphasize organic curves and rounded edges, reflecting how nature has no straight lines. This could hint at a broader vision for Tomorrowland's future-one where architecture seamlessly blends with nature, embodying a more harmonious and futuristic aesthetic. I believe Disney is waiting for Tokyo's Tomorrowland to be fully completed before making any big moves in the U.S. parks. Once they've finished constructing the new Villains Land in Magic Kingdom and the upcoming Frontierland Cars ride, they'll likely turn their attention to Tomorrowland. My guess is that they'll temporarily close it down for a massive overhaul, similar to what we're seeing in Tokyo. With the recent opening of the new Tron ride, it’s clear they won't shut down Tomorrowland until other attractions are ready to keep guests engaged. But once those new lands are in place, I think they'll give Tomorrowland the reboot it needs, taking inspiration from the Tokyo version. Whether this happens in Orlando or at Disneyland first remains to be seen, but that’s my take on what might be in store for Tomorrowland's future.

[@mattwedgeworth7332]

There needs to be a people mover from the new park to the parking lot

[@TELarkin61]

Disney - "Sure, we'll bring back the People Mover, but we'll have to get rid of the Matterhorn."

[@disneyguy3116]

I would love to see a Tony stark modern people mover that would connect tomorrow land to Avengers campus!

[@michaelsullivan3581]

Thank you so much Dr. Schmidtz! The Society deeply appreciates your devotion and attention to detail! This three part series was, in a word, tits, and, mayhaps, we can not even wait for the 4 hour non-Rocket Rods expose'! Good day, Maestro!

[@cvcjr13]

Looking forward to a new People Mover at Disneyland, and not just at the Disneyland Forward expansions as has been proposed, but at a brand new Tomorrowland (okay, they keep Space Mountain, they keep Autopia and they keep the Monorail. . .). . . Now, if they tear down Tomorrowland and rebuild it, will it be at least two stories tall? And will the People Mover transport people between the two levels? Imagine that - a People Mover that transports people to someplace! . . . Oh, and definitely NO to Rocket Rods, Deadpool! . . .

[@crablobster958]

It's been a long while since we have seen Creepy Mickey!

[@Greeneyesamurai]

If you had the ability to give Tmw Land a complete overhaul, what would you do in terms of rides, dining, and aesthetics?

[@justaguy2182]

We’ve all been through 4 stages of grief when it comes to the Peoplemover We’re still getting to acceptance, but we’ve been trying for a few decades.