The Poor Man's 5150? - Bugera 6260 Infinium

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[@Kidrock-nd2nx]

I have 2 non Infinum 6260 heads. Got the 2nd one from Sweetwater when they had them forsale for $250. What I did with mine is changed the preamp tube in the v1 until I got the sound I was happy with. Ended up with a Yugoslavia 12ax7. Watched a KZbin video of Friedman tweaking a Randall head with George Lynch. George Lynch had these Yugoslavia 12ax7 preamp tubes he liked. Tightened it up and made it more focused. So I got 2 of them. It worked .

[@newamerikangospel]

I like to run my 6262 with an MXR in the effects loop to emulate the resonance, and sometimes it sounds better than my 6505 or EVH. There is a really clean saturation that sounds great.

[@nomadronin7361]

If you really want a presence and resonance control try a BBE Sonic Maximizer in the effects loop.

[@timtim-it3me]

@@nomadronin7361 Love my Sonic Stomp.

[@entropiaamplification1129]

Emulate the resonance? BBE Sonic Maximizer? Guys... You can do resonance mod for Your own for less than 10$ and 5 minutes work. There's PDF instruction in the net, step by step, including photos how to do it.

[@newamerikangospel]

@@entropiaamplification1129 Prove it. Send me a modded one.

[@countzero5150]

I have two first gen 6260's. Both are modded with a resonance pot on the back of the amp. Took about 15 minutes to install, I just did it when I had the chassis out to bias them. I didn't even pull the pcb board to remove the resistor, I just jumpered it. It's really easy to do, the resonance is already there.

[@jeffreyschroder8004]

Been running the 6262 Infinium, for 2 two years. I boost the Crunch channel with an MXR 10 channel eq on theloop; and, it preaches. Thanks, Kyle 🤘😎

[@gravelrocks5588]

I have a 333xl infinium it's awesome

[@suffersystemstudios]

I own the 6262 and still love it. I had the 6505+ for over ten years, but decided to go the axe fx route and the 6262 came up for sale so it allows me to ahve some tube goodness when I need it or don't want to play the axe fx. Never had an issue with it and runs great. Noisey bastard, but sounds killer.

[@jorbv8]

Bought a pre infinium 6262 head a year ago off market place for 250AUD without the bloody foot switch. Just got it back from a full service 355AUD, 4 of 6 preamp tubes were replaced & now it breathes fire, i love the outta control gain. I run it through a 16ohm 2x12 and a 16ohm 1x15 , sounds farkn huge... I use the lead channel for my rhythm and a EHX Soul Food in the loop for solo boost

[@eds4754]

sounds better than I was expecting. IIRC Santiago Alvarez who’s been at Marshall a number of years was involved on several of the Bugera amps. Obviously designing for Behringer has different constraints but he knows his stuff. Would love to see gut shots inside the amps of these comparisons, often it can be an important factor as far as reliability/how easy it is to service/price etc. Some cheap amps are built quite nice and some expensive ones are surprisingly bad so it’s interesting to see and factor in on a review IMO

[@belligerentamateur]

I didn't know this! Thanks for the info!

[@eds4754]

@@belligerentamateur there’s a couple of interviews on youtube with him and also some great forum posts on the Marshall amps forum. Fascinating guy and a total genius, definitely recommend checking them out

[@semdallinga69]

The Bugera amps I’ve seen are genuinely pretty well built. I think the affordability comes from extremely cheap components like resistors, capacitors etc. The chassis and circuit board layout seem to be pretty well thought out

[@Stretchwreckedem469]

I will say this; the Bugera 6262 Infinium sounds really good if you have a guitar loaded with EMG's passive HZ pickup set. They're naturally lower output, like super low output. However, when boosted with a tube screamer and the gain turned up to either around 4 or 6, it sounds super tight, and it makes for a perfect combination.

[@nomadronin7361]

I just bought a 6262 and love it! Tone is very much in the 5150 zone.

[@AmishMutantPower]

This Bugera is a MONSTER!!!! Great Video 💪😃

[@AustinofDivebomb]

Miss mine! Perfect tour rig because who cares if it gets beat up but it sounds good!

[@garethlewis4586]

I dug my 1st gen 6260 recently...lead channel is ridiculously high gain, exactly as you say shines on crunch with a boost. However, I tried it with an sss strat and I'm amazed how usable all channels are. Seem almost like it's calibrated for lower output pickups. The reverb didn't sound that bad either 🤘😎🤘 Cool video man!

[@bwgti]

Sounds good. These used to be a poor option 3-4 years ago when you pick up a used 5150, 6505 or even a 50w 5150iii for under 700 US Dollars. Prices are not like that in 2021… Really enjoying the channel sir.

[@belligerentamateur]

Agreed here!

[@Kolibri92]

I've had this for +7 years now. Not a single problem so far with it. 808 to the front and it's a badass metal sound you get. Nice mids also. I actually think it tries to blend some Mesa into the sound as well so I wouldn't say it's purely a 5150 copy. But opinions, opinions. Great amp.

[@jamesfindice2871]

I like my 6262 NOT infinium. Bought it last summer and the amp is from around 2008. also the previous owner said it has never had any issues. There are JJ tubes in it now and I paid 100€ for it which is like 115$. So not a bad deal.

[@countzero5150]

The pre infinium stuff was the best in my opinion. I am not on board with the self biasing design of the infiniums. I have a first generation 6260 that right now is jj 6l6s biased at around 68%. I wanted to get a 6262 but after looking at the gut shots/schematics of the infiniums, it's just not something I feel confident I could easily repair if it breaks and let's be honest here, sooner or later all amps break. Whether it's the caps reaching the end of their lifespan, or a tube goes and takes out a screen grid resistor with it. If I found one that was cheap enough I might be tempted to buy it just to see if I could convert it to an adjustable bias and get rid of the infinium circuit entirely. Like the b52 at-100s and mesa triple rectifiers, the 6260 is billed as a poor man's 5150 but it sort of has its own thing going. It isn't better or worse than a 5150/6505, it just comes down to what sound you're after.

[@bourboulakas]

Congrats for your videos man. Few monts ago you promised to do a dsl20....still waiting. Keep rockin.

[@cappy781]

They got a sweet spot setting with a tube screamer thats sounds crushing! I had my bugera for a long time great cheap amp

[@tgchan]

If someone wonders: You can play it with 2x12 v30 at 4am (even in a small flat) and it actually sounds amazing (dual rectifier style) I was a little/ or maybe even more disappointed when I have opened up the volume later that day and it was much much brighter... lol/ But still, no master volume, no attenuator needed. It actually is almost exactly the same as my Marshall DSL1 in terms of volume and it sounds godly before the valves open up (the irony of it...)/ So yea... There's literally no reason not to pick up any big boy beasts, unless their volume knobs suck. 6262 infinium on my end; knobs feel very solid and easily controllable. I can easily set it @ 85db and below; whisper volume and it sounds as I have mentioned before, absolutely massive lol/ It's big and heavy @+-21 kg, looks fantastic/ For recording, I would go modellers, plugins, etc. for the ease, convenience and versatility but for practice and fun? Nothing else gives me personally so much fun. Actually almost everything digital after a while kills my will to play... I prefer the sound from modellers/plugins but it just rubs me in a wrong way, annoys and ultimately make dissatisfied with playing... go figure... I just wish the 6262 sounded as fat as before you open up the volume knob. I honestly thought I have finally found the amp of my dreams when I first played it super early in the morning... I still like it but... this is not what I've fallen in love with in the first place/. Actually I think the tone might be still there but I run my amps the worst way... all (except for gain and volume and reverb) at noon. I have fiddled with knobs and I think it was rather easy to actually make it very similar but my o.c.d. and probably other sh1te won't really let me set it this way lol I just need something naturally fat and muffled. Yea... I am messed up/ But still can't get my head round the fact that the amp sounds absolutely massive, full and bassy at super low volume and then brightens up a lot. But as I have said, equalisation knobs are very responsive and you can easily shape the tone you want. I still have a few days to make up my mind what to do with it. So far, two things bother me: 1. the footswitch is not available to buy anymore; when it craps out... you lose your channel switching ability and you cannot really substitibe it without anything else wildly available 2. I think a spring or preamp shield was rattling while standing on my 2x12 directly. It is supported with kitchen sponges now and the problem is gone but still... 3. When moving out... There's no way I am taking it with me lol... same for my 2x12; just too big and too heavy. But I would definitely buy 4x12 and big arse amp again if I had my own house/flat and didn't have a threat of being forced to move out. The magic of owing a 100 and above full valve amp is definitely real. The look of it alone is making me want to keep it...

[@resington]

Unboosted lead channel sounded great I thought.

[@gabrielhersey-sanders3768]

Resington!! I would love to see a collab with you and Kyle. Your content and production is bonkers good and would be awesome to see you both release a vid! You two have some of the best metal guitar content on KZbin hands down.

[@resington]

@@gabrielhersey-sanders3768 cheers man! I wouldn't say no to something like that.👍

[@belligerentamateur]

@resington I am certainly down for something like that!

[@booganaga123]

Just found your channel and I think I'm here to stay just because of the xDisciplex AD shirt. The gear reviews are fun too!

[@belligerentamateur]

Hell yeah. I'm actually in a band with the drummer of xDx called Human Animal. Erie Hardcore, baby.

[@booganaga123]

@@belligerentamateur Dude! Your cover of Two-Faced rips!

[@pupstop1]

Nice demo, but I would have liked to hear the insane amounts of gain you spoke of. Usable or not, I'd like to hear what is sounds like with the gain on 8-9 on both channels just to have a reference. Great video, Thanks

[@massttrshrdrharmonicminor2002]

Dude, you hit it with the TS and BAM.

[@Crunchifyable2]

The resonance is in the circuit. It's basically set to like noon or 11 o clock internally. You can't adjust it due to patents. I guess I don't really see the issue because it's one of those things that has a sweet spot and you don't want it maxed and you don't want it off.

[@smeemusic]

This amp sounds like Velcro lol. It’s usable tho so that’s something. I’ve been wanting to hear this amp for a hot minute.

[@christopherallen5603]

I was a bit of a skeptic myself on the infinium system but mixing L6's and 34's is what sold me to buy a new 1960 about 6months ago.. it's as close to the old Sylvania 6CA7 sound as I'll get for the money in terms of cost of tubes

[@rickygonsalves905]

Sweet! would love to see a demo on one of those old affordable b-52 all tube amp heads. They look like they're trying to clone a rectifier, but at least it has a resonance control.

[@belligerentamateur]

I plan to, as soon as I can fidn one!

[@thedudeofshaving1749]

Amp sounds great to me

[@yamaha4902]

Ive read into so many and watched so many videos, i haven't gotten to hear many big amps in person, i think my bugera with my randall jaguar cab and my jackson 7 string soloist with fishman moderns sounds pretty damn sick

[@ulfdanielsen6009]

Dear Kyle, thank you for calling the amp Bugera instead of Busjera.

[@markolivares6943]

Sound fucking killer dude 🔥

[@texacomann]

Bugeras reliability gave them a shot ☠️the bugera is a China Böller that shoots in the air and blast after putting a Power plug into your socket. I have lost 3 of 4 devices! Yes they Sound phantastic but not long......

[@fish86stang]

I like it I would recommend it for sure

[@JMK-kb1yq]

Bugera: the diet coke of high gain

[@haydenhoffman3008]

Love that chuggy riff at 16:10

[@SquirrelNuggets]

A local shop has one of these for around $350. Thinking about getting it after seeing this. Gonna be my first tube amp if I do

[@GPaulTheThrashKing]

Bro. I had a bugera combo that I ran into a marshall cab. That thing failed me at almost every show I played with it. I rejoiced when I swapped it with a real 5150! (They sound good when they work tho.)

[@symbolicacts6056]

Was it one of the newer infinium ones?

[@hebguy420]

Had that problem with the 333xl and was the infinium model as well

[@DR440]

This was the thing that confused me about the Bugera amps over a decade ago. Back then you could buy a 5150 for $500-600. I know because I owned three at once. The 5150 was a well proven amp by that point. Now the Peavey 5150's are like most stuff =expensive. First one was a '92 block letter (no difference between it and my '96 version-don't believe the hype). The best 5150 Peavey I ever heard was the combo version plugged into a 4x12. It was more aggressive than any of my head versions. I believe the issue with the Bugera amps was a certain connecter would burn out to the board. And it was very common.

[@GPaulTheThrashKing]

@@symbolicacts6056 nah, it was an original one. Maybe the infiniums are better built but I swore off Chinese gear after that experience.

[@DudeMcGuybro]

@@GPaulTheThrashKing The early models had a specific component that would melt inside of it, and they fixed that issue since. The infiniums are much better too, given the tube assistance it gives you.

[@CalanReichel]

This amp required an EQ. My bandmate got one to counter my 333xl (fat ass low end) and side by side it was like ice pick thin.

[@belligerentamateur]

yeah, a 5150 circuit without a resonance control is a nono. lol

[@TheRosswise]

I been having a Bugera 1990 since 2010. It's a clone of the Marshall JCM 900 with more gain. Really sweet amp, you should check that out if you get the chance.

[@belligerentamateur]

I've owned a couple, definitely 900 copies.

[@blackhorizonband]

Stench sounded pretty nice in the intro at least

[@JohnSmith-ef2sx]

I love the idea of bugera copying the higher end models cause I think some of these companies are being a little greedy with their pricing. That's their prerogative and it's fine but it's a free market and bugera exists to help the consumer. Wish they'd do more.

[@belligerentamateur]

Can't say I agree with this statement, sorry. A company taking american circuits they didn't design, copying them and shipping them off to China is definitely not something I'd want to support.

[@JohnSmith-ef2sx]

@@belligerentamateur Well maybe. However I'm glad bugera exists solely because I don't like monopolies in the market. Love competition . I mean the big name amp companies steal ideas too they're just more discrete. For example the first tube amp was invented and everyone copied.

[@malettastudios9416]

All of my friends on the forums are sick of hearing me say this story, but I always gotta mention it. First Bugera was the 6262 non infinium model. (Musicians friend sold them for like $250). And I got it, and the Transformer blew in 2 days. But I loved the sound so much, I went ahead and bought a new 6262 Infinium model from Sweetwater, and that died on me in 3 days, (two days before a show) and it had the same issue. The Quality wasn’t there. They sounded amazing, but I quit, and bought a 6505+. I also had a friend who used a non infinium 6262 for three years and it never died on him, and I had a friend who used the Trirec Infinium for about 9 months, and it died on him, Mid Show, Mid Song at random. And numerous stories of people having them die in a few days, few weeks etc. Hit or miss for sure.

[@belligerentamateur]

Yep, definitely notorious for reliablitity issues.

[@johnmurphy5739]

Yup - I bought a 6262 infin from Thomann last year, and the channels were linked ie couldn't get full high gain on the lead chan unless the gain was cranked on the clean channel ... neither bugera nor Thomann could understand that so I returned it and they sent me another. Same problem- and then a tube blew in the second one too. I sent it back, refund time. Pity.... They sounded great tone wise. I bought a used 5150 and never looked back since!

[@texacomann]

I have 3 defective bugeras and my fourth works for years, what a fucking bad story with the bugera stuff!

[@larslevinberget9558]

Cardboard...that frequency that appeared when James Brown began hot-rodding the Peavey VTM120 based prototype that would later become the 5150 EVH120 and they worked very hard to get away, and out of that process, grew the tone of the 5150...lower efficiency speakers would better this problem, like G12M25 or G12H30 greenbacks, or Eminence/Peavey Blue Marvel for a more mellow hi-range

[@ace-rob71]

hi, really nice review. Is there a Balaguer Espada guitar? thanks

[@chrishussey1134]

I got one .. It’s my second tube amp ever.. Kinda badass.. Too me

[@solidsnakec20]

rough start, but exceeded my expectations

[@barryprosser1370]

I really dig this amp. Thanks for selling me one a while ago :). Question does the 5150 have a bright switch like this unit? It does seem to have a lot of different options for a great price in my eyes. \m/

[@belligerentamateur]

Yep, 5150 has the bright switch on the Rhythm channel

[@Gorazd1974]

Dont sayin it has too much gain (distortion) because death metal guitarist need it for rhytm and for endless solos too 😋😊😊 Bottom is floppy because you have passive pickups; its bad controlled, that amp just needs to play with active EMGs or Seymours.

[@DR440]

Resonance or depth control is very beneficial for the tones I go after. Kinda lost without it actually.

[@jeremyfickas5137]

I bought that and the 333 both are awesome amps you just have to dial them in

[@riffsnoleads]

Biggest failing for Bugera is that every one I have played always seem to have a spikey top end and squishy/fizzy distortion. However, I really like them, with enough knob tweaking it is a very serviceable amp. In 30 years everyone will want one for that BOOTEEK sound. That weird feedback sounded like one of the preamp tubes was going out or shaking. Then again, spikey highs and squishy gain.

[@michaelveach2408]

I’ve had same problem. Changing V1 and phase inverter with JJ fixed it for my ears.

[@nathanhogsed7475]

The "weird" feedback you're hearing in between notes and chugs is sympathetic resonance happening behind the nut. Thats what my guess would be.

[@dookieeater]

Your shirt is cool. Loved that band.

[@belligerentamateur]

My hometown fellas

[@JohnSmith-ef2sx]

I wish you played leads too even its just a nice bend with some vibrato ... It's ok though not a deal breaker. I like hearing lead tones and I like your demos , but again not a deal breaker. You're a good rhythm player and i'm being a whine ass. Keep up the good work. You pump out content on the regular, props.

[@belligerentamateur]

Would if I could my man! I'm simply not a lead olayer, unfortunately.

[@redkurn]

just got one today in a trade. 😂

[@chrishussey1134]

Non infinium model Really old.. I am not sure about difference But it’s fun

[@al76groovekeeper]

Like your playing!!!!!! Best amp for the buck….2000s peavey shit all good they made some sick basses in guitars ….

[@williamwebb8908]

I've only had one Bugera and it lasted exactly one rehearsal and half of a 45 min gig before it burned out leaving me feeling very embarrassed.

[@Iamadroid]

Amps are so subjective. To me the mud killer boost sounded muddier.

[@BradRocker]

Mud Killer brings that one home !

[@brandonbanks32278]

This is expected from Behringer....who created and owns the Bugera Brand. But gotta hand it to Behringer... They give the poor man what he asks for. Damn Decent products at a low price.

[@Darrell081]

Almost everky video I see is some guy showing off his speed with a ton of distortion. I understand that a lof of the players today want that because it fits the music they play. But for us old octogenarians couldn't you have a small section where you show the clean tones you can get so we can see if the amp is usable for us.

[@mikekakonikolas7407]

With the resonance mod this amp rips!

[@jessebreakspear6656]

I think it sounded just fine I would be worried about how repairman-friendly it is though I mean if it costs 600 bucks to fix it might as well just get a real 5150 in the first place. it would be the perfect thing if you only play metal once in a blue moon kinda thing though ya know? and you know I see all these crazy expensive distortion pedals for like $300.00 why bother with that when you can buy a whole amp for $300. LOL idk

[@1thess523]

I've seen a demo of the 1990 vs JCM 900 and it is like a 99.9999999% match

[@belligerentamateur]

Had that one for a minute as well. Def 900 HGDR tones all day

[@MisterTee]

I used to live by a Bugera dealer and these things broke down if you looked at them the wrong way

[@YungPariah]

Is there a huge difference between this and the regular 6260?

[@belligerentamateur]

I beieve just the Infinium tech, and some of the reiability issues fixed.

[@dougleydorite]

Holy shit that axe is sick

[@belligerentamateur]

Thanks man, I love it!

[@dougleydorite]

@@belligerentamateur does the different positioning of the guitar sitting on your leg have an impact on your picking? Better or worse?

[@Justintwoguys123]

What power tubes would You recommend to swap out for the stock ones?

[@empirelight5477]

I don't get all the booger references in amp nomenclature. Is it a Friedman thing?

[@thedanksavatron7782]

Nissssssssssssssssssce 🍻

[@bernardfoshage9901]

I feel like if Hollywood were to make a bio film about you, a young Matt Damon would be the perfect actor. Just sayin....

[@donsmith5385]

The Peavey XXL is more of the 5150 then that amp

[@belligerentamateur]

Can't say I agree. The XXL is a solid state Ultra circuit, where as this is a rip of the 5150 circuit.

[@donsmith5385]

@@belligerentamateur ha ha the Ultra circuit is just part of the XXL, I can’t really say the Bugera is a rip since they are made in Berhinger city right along side with all Peavey amps.

[@barrygomez5968]

Did you fall out of love with your duality?

[@belligerentamateur]

Not one bit! Just been trying to rotste other stuff on the board!

[@thedudeofshaving1749]

3rd

[@christianboddum8783]

No love for the tones on this amp... FWIW

[@roaldyboy]

You talk too fast, inarticulate, and don’t have a clue on how to set the tone on a tube amp! Slow down, take some time, figure the amp out on your own before you make a video exposing your lack of knowledge! Just saying

[@belligerentamateur]

Awesome, I actually accomplished every goal I set out to achieve! Appreciate the affirmation!

[@roaldyboy]

@@belligerentamateur Ok Well I’m glad for your success You are an incredible guitar player btw! Congrats

[@squidmissiletv]

This this is definitely made for d standard and down.