The Problem with Niko's MIDI Pack (Plugin Police # 9)

okay im done with midi stuff and laryngitis for good. jk theres actually a part two with the updated review.
WATCH PART TWO▶ • Nikos Midi Pack Review...
2.5/10
CHAPTERS▶
0:00 INTRO
2:41 MIDI DEMO
3:05 REVIEW
5:25 OUTRO
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AUDIUS - audius.co/weaverbeats
#nikomidipack #midipack #pluginpolice #musicproduction

[@JimLarranaga5k]

I bought one of his midi packs. The most helpful part was his PDF sheet of chord progressions that are sorted by mood. If you understand the Nashville Number System, you can easily see (and hear) how those chords evoke certain moods and vibes. From there you can create your own variations. If you want a copy of the PDF, I got you! Just send me $27.

[@nikokotoulas]

haha I'll send you $27, thanks for grabbing the pack

[@mymindfulnesschannel]

@@nikokotoulas Niko comments on all the positive comments that have quite likely been paid for so that the negative and more truthful comments sink below. Ugly business model, sorry but it's true.

[@nikokotoulas]

@@mymindfulnesschannel that's just not accurate dude. Weaver Beats even made a new review video giving the pack a good rating. I didn't pay him nor do I even need to pay people for reviews. We only got sponsored videos with influencers to help promote the pack more. I monitor all comments on videos here and there to get user feedback and respond to customers. And to reply to comments like this so people can see my point of view and hear my side, cheers.

[@Sergio-nb4hj]

@@mymindfulnesschannel I would agree but I posted a really negative comment last year and he responded lmao

[@Schyler]

You want a trash melody? I got you

[@Iceshrooms]

🤣🤣🤣

[@Yuniek]

it was good

[@sereanaduwai8313]

Fantastic-saved me as I was already querying various issues with he pack.

[@coldwindz8413]

You are the best Weaver!

[@ApexBeatsArchive]

It even has little hairs going up the side LMAO

[@Weaverbeats]

sometimes it be like that

[@CannadyLawBeats74]

Cool Dude, Great Video Bro!!!

[@loughrin]

I bought the Best midi pack and the Ultimate midi pack. I was a bit skeptical at first based on how sales-y the marketing pages were, but this is hands down the best MIDI that I've ever bought. He also has a 14 day money back guarantee. If you're thinking about it, I would say it's been worth it for me.

[@nikokotoulas]

thank you so much :)

[@sekritskworl-sekrit_studios]

Where can I buy midi progressions for Country, Bluegrass, for non-drums?

[@spacestranger8803]

Im about to make a midi pack for snare loops

[@Weaverbeats]

i think u onto something there 🤔🤔

[@onedeep9771]

Definitly should do that

[@dj_adam_g_uk]

😂😂 I find 808 midis so unnecessarily too, would only work if you build the whole beat around that midi or none of the route notes would be in key

[@Coqui-Media]

A loop pack for cymbals....hi hats would go down a storm lol

[@eternalinfestation]

Make them all 4/4 on the 2 and 4 and just bpm 50-250

[@AztechXX]

Thanks a lot mate !

[@vargemrecordestudio4901]

His products I say the Nikos midi packs are all excellent!

[@nikokotoulas]

thank you for grabbing!

[@wlaaaaaaaaaa123]

that intro, fucking KILLLLED me bruh hahaha

[@chrisanthony5501]

SSL 2+ REVIEW BIG DAWG

[@d4ben]

Your hilarious dude....thanks heaps

[@d4ben]

And by the way bro your assessment is spot on, this product is crap in fact the only thing worse than it is trying to get a refund :-(

[@Rehbet]

I hope you recorded some falsetto during the laryngitis

[@paulb6181]

the niko midi packs dont work and i am now trying to claim my refund, totally useless. i have tried to open the midi packs in ableton and the are no sound waves or anything just totally blank.have i done something wrong.

[@Weaverbeats]

yes you did something wrong, they are midi files, they are not audio files, you are supposed to have a synth or something play the notes.

[@prod450ketchy]

i made the mistake to buy a plugin called octave deluxe, its apparently a vst made for trap beats, but bruh like a lot of the sounds in it sound like some nexus presets with fx on them... i paid 69$ us, i regret it

[@kennethjohnson9816]

Damn I just bought it this morning, now imma be mad when I get to it

[@tjmworldwide]

I love how cut dry real these reviews are 😂💪🏽 go weaver ! Expose these people for scamming youthful producers full of potential

[@avationmusic]

the "best dad hands down" hand painting in the back made my day🥹

[@smeeh1007]

🤣🤣MAN, you crack me up! very entertaining!

[@MusoManUK]

brilliant

[@DodgaOfficial]

Man I must admit, I've bought two of his packs. I think it's because I'm having a inspiration drought right now, and midi packs like these are a good starting point. I never use them by themselves, just as a starting point when I'm having some inspiration issues.

[@dancemusic6384]

some of the marketing is annoying, but I also own the packs and really enjoy using them as well

[@ErickMcNerney]

I bought some too, and feel the same as Weaver Beats does. I found them the opposite of inspiring. The marketing way over sold them. And so when you hear how mundane they are it's just kind of a let down.

[@peytonduck1]

@@ErickMcNerney spot on Bro..I got haggled at checkout and paid for a couple extra stuff. Pretty much complete trash. Every melody is simplistic and boring. Just like up the the scale and down the scale boring..Progressions are just a mess and repetitive..Wish I woulda saw this first!

[@firerhyme]

@@peytonduck1 you can get the refund still

[@peytonduck1]

@@firerhyme you gotta submit tracks you made with the pack in order to get a refund..screw that. I’ll pass and and just take the L

[@agentcalm]

As someone who cant play piano I'm finding this pack really useful. For 27 bucks I'm finding it helpful. Would i pay say $100 or so? Not a chance. Scaler does look good and not a price. 60 euro in our money so roughly the same in $US. There's not a huge difference in the exchange rate. Would I get Scaler later on? Possibly. It seems to have extra cool features like key detection which is always handy.

[@nikokotoulas]

thanks for grabbing the pack

[@mymindfulnesschannel]

You know, you can get better plug-ins for free.

[@SumnSumnSumnHTK]

Where you been hiding bro? We need to do a collab video!

[@dj_adam_g_uk]

Should do a trio with ave, that'd be👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼

[@katana2seppuku]

It's good if you wanna practice making beats n wanna self produce. Like if you're good at recording but don't understand chords. It's really good for learning how to lay out chords n practice your drums n bass. I think it's helpful, it's probably not to someone that's musically inclined in that sense. I'm good at writing, recording, n mixing but I'm not good at producing like that. So for anybody wanting to buy, just know it's a good start but not for everybody. It has its audience

[@Henckio]

Midi-pack users: 'I am a producerrrrr!!' No, you combined prefab midi with (most likely) prefab sounds. Thats not producing, thats not writing, thats just fooling yourself you have any talent.

[@colinjames2469]

totally

[@k-awticbeats5765]

i have the exact Hands down best dad hand prints on my wall... now i feel ripped off lmao

[@Schyler]

Sonarworks for sure

[@therealrobstark2916]

I think the best way to use this is if your not inspired you can use the midi pack as a jump off point. I wouldn’t feel good about just slapping a midi pack in picking a sound and calling it a day. That’s not art if that’s all your doing

[@mrt5017]

Thanks man. I was gonna buy this... dont know how it grabbed me.. but it nearly did.

[@user-oh4ky7rv5i]

I dont understand who buys this. First of all, you can find many of these free tbh, and i feel like they never have any value. If anyone wants midis just hit me up

[@fluctura]

Actually, some melodies from the pack are inspiring / good to learn from. But yeah, the price is from moon. 9$ would be ok

[@darrenjharris9907]

I did get the Niko Chord Pack a year ago, based on their no questions asked money back guarantee. I looked at it, went to get my money back, and they said you have to upload a video of you using the chord pack. I said no I dont due to your ad: no questions asked money back guarantee. They refused. Buyer beware!

[@samsepiol3268]

I’m weak 😂

[@cikguarsyad2127]

nikos midi pack vs unison midi, which one?

[@johnmichael9360]

Niko's MIDI Pack - it's not even close

[@HumanTouchArt]

The problems this midi packs have is 8 BILION people have the same melody ....

[@lukather1]

Someone name some good midi packs ?

[@Weaverbeats]

unison blueprint isnt bad, its different than the other unison one and the niko one though.

[@lukather1]

@@Weaverbeats £ ?

[@hmongstar2000]

I just order the 1000 + pack $27 plus the $17. Yea, its false advertisement. There are nothing close to what they advise. What I got was, Ka, Ke, Ko, Ker sounds. It sucks...

[@nikokotoulas]

I don't understand how anything is false advertisement. Everything in our ads is given in the pack. And more. This is just another troll comment full of nonsense.

[@BennyParcher]

Ahahahahahahaha duuude this is great 👍👌👏

[@twntyxx]

Bro his ad just ran right before this video 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@nikokotoulas]

😎😎😎

[@Prod.Uisce1]

The comments on his videos are filtered, there are a bunch of comments complaining about the pack he hearted but did not help at all. He is a con man and kudos to you

[@delga2001]

ahahah thats how reviews should be done

[@Beatsbasteln]

27€ for a bunch of midi data that can easily be reproduced in a single day is 27€ too much

[@cr0wnnoize808]

Lol I'm not buying anymore M/packs after my last purchase. 👍📽

[@BoDiddly]

Where were you looking during the video? It wasn't the camera...

[@Weaverbeats]

i just couldnt stop looking at niko on my computer dude okay?!?!

[@BoDiddly]

@@Weaverbeats Lol! Yeah, Niko can be hot in some cases I guess.

[@lotusblack7535]

you should review the unison midi chord pack.

[@Weaverbeats]

i did already.

[@lotusblack7535]

@@Weaverbeats nah i know you did like 3 videos and always mention it, this was a bad joke💀

[@Weaverbeats]

oh damn i got wooshed

[@itsrelativ3967]

This is why I have Chordjam. When I'm running out of ideas one note just creates the chord but not the melody. I don't want pre-made MIDI melodies. It reminds of those cheesy Nokia ringtones from like 2002-2005.

[@artifica0]

Bro you is Ill go rest

[@Weaverbeats]

naw im good, voice was cracking a bit when i started recording but its 100% normal as this was uploaded 😂😂

[@argiopeMusic]

I needed this laugh so much - thanks Weaver, I think I found a new favorite channel...

[@onedeep9771]

Man you've saved me about 90 dollars already and this is only the second video

[@himengmeng]

i wish i saw this video i purchesed

[@suitandtieguy]

I got you

[@prodbyseemingly1958]

You're a hero bro

[@Weaverbeats]

i work for the feds

[@chuckfoster1953]

Beware checking out with any Niko purchase, I was charged $97 for midi I did not want.

[@himengmeng]

Customers who are unsatisfied with our MIDI packs may qualify for a refund on ONE pack. To qualify, we ask that you send us a demo song you produced using our MIDI. We’re sure that after spending a bit of time with the pack, you may change your mind. If not, let us know why when you send us the track. If you would like a refund for Niko's Ultimate MIDI Pack, we ask for three demo songs given just how extensive the pack is.

[@nikokotoulas]

We've unfortunately had people going through and buying all our courses and MIDI packs (hundreds of dollars)... it gets really bad and immediately people ask for a refund like 10 minutes after purchase. It's something someone suggested we put in place to limit the amount of scammers and people doing this. Hopefully that makes sense. Normally when someone is genuine we do refund everything that it doesn't work for them.

[@TerenceKearns]

Go look at the latest scaler 2.5 update, then come back and decide if you need thousands of midi files lying around...

[@k-awticbeats5765]

fucking hated this pack too, did buy scaler shortly after which I actually use lol

[@nikokotoulas]

thanks for the feedback - why did you not like it? I went through your beats and noticed a lot of the drill/trap ones have similar melodies to the trap/R&B folders in the pack.

[@omniinvestments7128]

@@nikokotoulas LOL! 🇬🇷🙏🇺🇲

[@MikePproductions]

Review sonarworks

[@Weaverbeats]

I have, search weaver beats Sonarworks

[@micahb-eazy4084]

Some of is pretty decent and all of them is not two bar or four bar loops a lot of them 16 bars

[@Weaverbeats]

read the description

[@adriatic123]

Chords are not bad but melodies are unsingable. If composing top melody is so easy everyone would be doing it and earning dosh

[@LiamKillen]

NIko's checked out Russell Brunson FOR SURE

[@nikokotoulas]

Russell who? 😎 Don't know him. Nice channel btw, I've seen your vids (on the OP-1) before buying

[@BrunodeSouzaLino]

Quality over quantity. So, no Waves Mercury for you.

[@colinjames2469]

I would rather pour boiling water in my ears

[@ocnb]

Don't really agree with the review - his midi pack is great for when you reach a bit of a creative blind spot - I usually just run a few and something will pop into my head.

[@Sey_Les]

"I had 4 fathers, growing up was weird" lmao

[@fitawrarifitness6842]

So is it worth the $30?

[@Weaverbeats]

maybe, if you are really really really struggling writing melodies, otherwise no.

[@r2beat2taylor35]

i had 4 fathers growing up was wierd lol omg i am dying laughing right now i couldnt finish the video i had to stop and laugh

[@dewonnejacobs5466]

I can't believe I got got smh

[@archielaborde8213]

Please do a review on a ghost hack plug in. They use the same sales tactics.

[@BreakzTerrorist]

But they actually sell good samples you dumbo

[@archielaborde8213]

@@BreakzTerrorist you know you might be on to something

[@ErickMcNerney]

What if I made a MIDI pack of improv? I'm actually serious. All of these bland, ho hum chord progressions. We need something unexpected. The midi industry needs some spice. Perhaps it can help you not kill yourself, too - by renewing your faith in the MIDI industry. That could even be used as a marketing tool - helps prevent suicide. Alright, I'm going to get in trouble. I've gotta stop. I bought the Niko pack on an impulse. It's such trash.

[@ether2006]

i cud listen to a holdsworth record 4 free and steal chords but $1205 VALUE!!!

[@myhedhz]

Dad City

[@cyverx9999]

hahaha i fucking love you

[@BoDiddly]

Hmmm... Where have I heard of "Price Reduction Deception" before?

[@himengmeng]

totally

[@fugee]

im glad there is peaple like you out there. there is no shortcut for hard work!! and also this pack is pure crap sorry that is my opinion...

[@himengmeng]

scam

[@papito2lindo]

This man is the Feds!!!!!!! I love it 🙌

[@Weaverbeats]

call my tip line if you got a lead

[@Sey_Les]

@@Weaverbeats lmao

[@lildog5360]

Roflmaooo

[@rubencosta6566]

I fuckin LOVE your videos dude 👊🏽

[@musicbyarron]

Lol, he’s basically bringing the world of fake gurus and online course scams to his midi pack and samples business.

[@d4ben]

Your so right bro, the product is crap and he's a scammer.

[@ErickMcNerney]

@@d4ben Yeah, I've noticed that, too. Like the backstory of Sep from Unison. It's scripted just like a fake guru. Niko's and Sep's marketing and tactics just seem so sketchy. It's like...yeah, they sell real stuff. But their products are way over hyped and their tactics turns me off so much I don't want to deal with them anymore.

[@cristianromero5945]

Has he done anything on Cymatics yet?

[@JohannesLabusch]

Niko is in the comments, thanking people with smiley faces who leave positive comments. Hey, Niko, why don't you respond to the criticism?

[@nikokotoulas]

@Johannes I do all the time - even re-made the pack to take into account Weavers comments and he made a new video on it. The criticism in the comments is helpful and why I actually review these videos to make the product better. Lmk if you have, I'm here.

[@SofaKingJAD3D]

LOL

[@ApexBeatsArchive]

UJAM FLUXX bro please

[@dj_adam_g_uk]

That's basicly unusable lol, the cpu is ridiculous

[@markluwis]

Lol 🤣🤣🤣

[@aezidoubleu]

I have no idea why but the unison pack and this pack are both 27 dollars

[@Weaverbeats]

now that's a conspiracy I could qanon to

[@Sergio-nb4hj]

Dude this kind of content is exactly what the community needs

[@d4ben]

Amen

[@TheUnrider]

sonarworks or arturia would be great.

[@dj_adam_g_uk]

Must admit, I love mellotron by arturia

[@Badboy6]

So happy someone is finally talking about these poxy adverts/midi packs. It’s been driving me fucking mad. The adverts are very similar to scam trading adverts, use all the same kind of principles. I looked up all the 'top producers' that one of them mentioned in the ads and they were about as bullshit as the chord progressions.

[@deadknuckles6346]

Cymatics does the price deception tactic every time poor guys they must make bank though they even have the better grab it only 1200 copies bro tactic

[@50CalBeats]

*opens Gmail* Steven Cymatics Steven Cymatics Steven Cymatics Steven Cymatics Steven Cymatics

[@kickcloudstv]

some of their packs legit tho, not all but some

[@Weaverbeats]

send me the sus stuff 👀

[@shitocodone8940]

Cymatics free drum kits are all you’d ever need. I can’t imagine the paid ones being any better. The free ones are probably the exact same and it’s only to make you interested in buying them but then you realize all the drum kits are nearly the same.

[@50CalBeats]

@@shitocodone8940 r/drumkits would like a word with you outside

[@shaynsnyolo]

Bout to make an open hat midi pack who's interested join my waitlist 🥺

[@Weaverbeats]

okay ill be first

[@musicbyarron]

And of course, price has to end in a 7! Weird NLP tactic.

[@Weaverbeats]

is it because it's close enough to rounding up, but not enough to cause alarm in someone's brain?

[@rochmel1409]

Thanks Weaver. You just saved me £25.00. I don't know why I got suckered in. It is obviously a con. If something is worth $1,027 it would be a bargain at $900 by offerring it at $27 they are indicating they have no faith in it themselves. I did get rather suspicious when the countdown to the end of the discount was the same today as it was when I looked yesterday! And he is so flipping annoying!

[@himengmeng]

i just bought it......its been like a year....i really need to get my money back.....

[@adrielsfx]

This comment section is full of bot haha

[@Sergio-nb4hj]

PLEASE do a video on the new hip hop Niko midi pack he's spamming everywhere I feel like that one is even worse

[@nikokotoulas]

the hip-hop one is actually better imo

[@SAUNITRIES]

I paid for it and regretted it. Shit was horrible, at least to my standards. I would never use any of his melodies on a track. Now, if you really can't come up with anything yourself, then maybe. But once you've gotten into things more like I have you start to understand quality. I wasted 30 dollars that could've went towards a more useful Plugin.

[@nikokotoulas]

what didn't you like about it / did you have the updated version?

[@himengmeng]

Customers who are unsatisfied with our MIDI packs may qualify for a refund on ONE pack. To qualify, we ask that you send us a demo song you produced using our MIDI. We’re sure that after spending a bit of time with the pack, you may change your mind. If not, let us know why when you send us the track. If you would like a refund for Niko's Ultimate MIDI Pack, we ask for three demo songs given just how extensive the pack is.

[@kemistri6307]

Talk too much

[@GravityGamingCo]

Jesus Christ is the WAY the TRUTH and the LIFE.

[@zmpfl5044]

...somehow

[@GravityGamingCo]

@@zmpfl5044 TRUTH

[@ayoslimthaproducer4828]

Damn bro you want someone to make the whole beat for u? Use your imagination

[@prod.hearthat8498]

I got you