The PTR 9CT Modernization Project

[@LUR1FAX]

It's weird how the same thing in .308 sells for like half the price.

[@joelerk6298]

The price is created on what the market will pay.

[@echodelta2172]

@@joelerk6298 it's also the fact that PTR bought surplus tooling for their 308 line and has been making them for years. I think they had to tool up the 9mm line out of their own funding and start from scratch.

[@joelerk6298]

@@echodelta2172 interesting, I didnt know that

[@randomidiot8142]

Because it's half the fun and ammo costs twice as much? Jk, idk. 👆 I saw that.

[@ajttambo]

​@@echodelta2172 Technically PTR didn't buy surplus tooling, they bough the Portuguese Government's Technical Data Package for the G3 and used that to make the PTR 91 with modern manufacturing processes. Still, yes this is why they can make them for cheap.

[@joemo1033]

"Fantastic. I'm looking forward to dragging this empty case around for the rest of my life." You beautiful genius.

[@DustyGamma]

Feels like a parent telling their kids: "Do as I say, not as I do."

[@stephenlozano2816]

I’ve always wanted an MP5, I just wasn’t willing to pay the outrageous H&K prices. I picked up a PTR9ct and I love it. Such a fun gun to shoot. It filled the nostalgic niche for me.

[@johnroper3077]

The Century Arms AP5 is simply a 1960's-70's styled earlier MP5 clone when the PTR-9ct is the later MP5A2 equivalent which I can get complete replacement parts for from HK Parts. That's another story for the AP5. Also you'll notice their 1/2x28 MP5/SP5 thread caps are are too short for the PTR-9ct because PTR allows for extra threads for less chance off suppressor walk off and minor detection to help prevent baffle/end cap strike. You can even get smooth (metal, black) replacement 1/2x28 thread caps online for your PTR-9ct from GSL Technology, Inc. that fit perfectly and allow for o-ring fit and full thread protection. Good Shootin.' Semper Fi, Mac.....

[@stephenlozano2816]

@@TheCrusher72 the void was filled and I saved over 3k. Thanks for asking

[@charleshaynie6371]

Lol both of you are retarded. The H&K version is not better lol you pay for the name, the Century is made on the exact same toolings the H&K ones were made on. Same machines, just better finishes.

[@jackwicker]

"shooting is literally better than sex" >implying you would know jk ily hop

[@Hoplopfheil]

I have it on good authority that sex isn't all it's cracked up to be.

[@dirtydan73]

@@Hoplopfheil “Guns gave me erectile dysfunction”

[@jackwicker]

@@Hoplopfheil you just haven't been with the right person

[@Hoplopfheil]

@@jackwicker can I get your mom's number? 🥺

[@jackwicker]

@@Hoplopfheil didn't know you were into the whole mommy gf thing

[@joshuagibson2520]

The world needs more journalist / reviewer types like Hop. It's refreshing to not get hammered with shill videos and for someone to speak the truth. Hop doesn't seem to be controlled by any overlords and doesn't seem to give one single fuck. And I appreciate that. Thanks. Edit: If you don't watch his work on TFB as well, then you're missing out.

[@SlingshotMustang]

Exactly. And he doesn't have the 2-3 minute long fucking annoying intro videos that so many guntubers seem to have these days, where they think you wanna see a dramatization/theater of them in full tactical gear running around shooting shit with loud ass annoying fucking wannabe epic music playing. That shit pisses me off to no end. Seriously it's like almost every gun review I ever click on lately, I'm hit with an obnoxious intro video and I even sometimes start yelling out loud at the computer screen "start the FUCKING review you narcissistic piece of shit! I'm here to LEARN the info, not watch your stupid fuckin ass trying to make an action movie!" lmaooo. I love that hop gets straight to the point and gives useful info in a no-bullshit manner.

[@jangelopabunan93]

@@SlingshotMustang no kidding. I got so sick of those intros really fast. most of the time id only click if i really liked the gun but 100% of the time i skip em.

[@SlingshotMustang]

@@jangelopabunan93 hahaha right?!

[@MikeRehfuss]

Given your thoroughness, I’m surprised you didn’t go down the rabbit hole of finding a SureFire fore-end.

[@NewbombedTurk]

You ever priced them?

[@MikeRehfuss]

@@NewbombedTurk Between 5 and 6 hundred for the thousand lumen. Don’t know about the old school models

[@NewbombedTurk]

@@MikeRehfuss I’d run across used ones minus the light for an ok price, as well as the light unit alone used. Piecing a used one together is still around $250+. Then you run into the light hitting a can if you want to suppress it, so you have to get that goofy ass offset light.

[@robc5082]

They were just in stock for 95 bones at Arms Unlimted for a police trade-in (8/19/21). OOS now. You gotta be quick!!!

[@NewbombedTurk]

@@robc5082 That’s a killer damn price. I stopped searching for handguards after I got my KAC rail and mount. Otherwise I might have lucked across one.

[@ebhoke]

"A man's slow descent into madness trying to modernize outdated weapons.

[@Ember34]

someone needs to make a playlist of all his modernization projects with this title and have a “Am I a lesbian” video and a “Do I have autism” video at the end

[@homerj109]

I went through a similar journey with my PTR 9 before I traded it. If you can get a hold of the surefire weapon light integrated handguards that is imho the best option for lighting up a mp5. I just can't justify keeping around PCCs for some reason and always go back to rifles as rifles and pistols as pistols. I took mine just about as far as I thought it could go as far as practicality/functionality but I still don't miss it. It filled a niche of always wanting an MP5 but it wasn't enough to keep. Keep up the great content!

[@Honey_butter_mmm]

You just broke down start to finish the curiosity filled journey with any niche gun. I think i’d be a buyer if I ever come across a 10m. I highly doubt any non fa models were made by HK. :/

[@homerj109]

@@Honey_butter_mmm 10mm would be sweet and could arguably bridge the gap between niche and something practical like bear yeeter or something else you can add another justification for keeping.

[@Glonk_Respecter]

It really is hard to justify a pcc when ammo prices are as high as they are, and 300 BO does everything a pcc does but with rifle ballistics. They are cool, but I totally get why you let it go.

[@BloodMoneyy]

@@Glonk_Respecter I used to think the same until I seen a video

[@Just_a_Tool]

I would point to the video 9 Hole Reviews did that basically encapsulates what I would say a PCC is ideal for. It's the video they did on the Vector.

[@PaletoB]

"NO NO NO! You did it all wrong! No need for nightvision, red dots or small LED lights. All you need is a HUGE Maglite mounted on top the receiver!" ;)

[@spire1o3]

Childhood ruined yet budget saved. Thanks for the honest review!

[@jzxwannabe2685]

I love that you don’t pull any punches. Keep telling it like it is.

[@echodelta2172]

>supporting an arrogant manufacturer from a dying, cucked country They hated Hop because he told the truth...

[@MusikCabaret]

hes telling it like how he thinks it is. The MP5 is even today rated as the world top SMG for good reason. No, Not because its fun to shoot.

[@jzxwannabe2685]

@@MusikCabaret the MP5 has been outdated for quite some time. It was never designed to support optics of any kind, lights or lasers. This was an afterthought. The only reason the US military took so long to replace it is because there was no competition until recently. Sorry, but your beloved MP5 is a relic.

[@KrinkelsNG]

I appreciate how you have no illusions about the mp5 platform.

[@Hoplopfheil]

I appreciate.... YOU

[@rubbapdub]

I recently bought an MP5 clone, AP5 and to solve the red dot/iron site issue, bought a $40 Kley-Zion ultra low profile mount and used a Romeo 5 with low picatinny mount. With this setup I get a good cheekweld and the red dot is on the tip for the front sight post. Works very well for me!

[@Dan1987432]

"I don't really give a fuck, I can shoot fast enough, and I don't really care about triggers at all" Brutal - and I love it. That alone got me to subscribe.

[@Throndl]

How dare Hop make a video so egregious, yet so accurate.

[@Doc41295]

This video is filled with quotables. Way to go Hop. I appreciate you. Also your video talked a friend of mine out of buying an MRO, so good job.

[@michaelblacktree]

He talked me out of getting an MRO as well.

[@davidpatino5942]

Hands down one of the best reviews I have ever seen. The attention to detail and so many combinations is impressive. 10/10 video.

[@Maelstrom8]

Nothing like a Hop review on Friday morning! The last line about what the gun is was a great way to some things up. Awesome and sucks. Useless and fun. Thanks for starting my day off with a chuckle.

[@MATTNMEMPHIS]

I just now stumbled on this guy. His sarcasm is most impressive!

[@Alexander-cq9tv]

Listening to Hoplop's professional narration tone always cracks me up when he breaks character and casually cusses.

[@drewhenderson13]

I’m watching this video 2 years after you made it and there has been more MP5 products to come to market as well as the cheap MKE imports from century. I haven’t had any problems finding ways to modernize mine and none of it is costing any more than AR15 parts. The reload is by far its biggest drawback but man it shoots so well I can deal with it. I have a surefire vampire light and a holosun IR laser mounted on a Midwest handguard with a modbutton dual lead mounted on top of the cocking tube right behind the front sight. Really pretty close to the way I setup my AR15’s, and I’m doing this with a K model. So far I really like it.

[@Alexanderockport]

"Arrogant manufacturer" is a main reason I went with the Mp5 and Mp5k Turkish clones. I like your style Hop. Just subscribed.

[@BrassFacts]

that conclusion had me rolling. Until I realized the Elcan is next on the docket...

[@Hoplopfheil]

Next week we take aim at your precious Elcan.

[@bryanolson6551]

I wish more reviewers were like you Hop. Your IDGAF ways are what’s needed in a world of shills.

[@johnwicksfoknpencil]

The commentary is the best part of this video. Thanks for not pulling any punches 😂👍🏼

[@FUNKACHELI]

Perfect balance of technical and sarcasm ...thats why I subscribed

[@audikid89]

I’ve never gotten a clear answer on the reverse stretch MP5 before this video, thank you Hop I truly appreciate it!

[@CutlassOutdoors]

Dude. That conclusion was epic. Per union mandate, I’m required to ask on every video that you please do a colab with GunThots. Thank you.

[@echodelta2172]

No, the dryness and raw meme content would literally kill the comments section....but maybe that's for the best.

[@KidCorporate]

Yup, subbed because of the conclusion alone. "If you're just a clone [REDACTED] you might as well buy the HK to try to convince yourself that you're BASED because you supported an arrogant manufacturer from a dying, cucked country." Now THAT'S what I call spicy.

[@kevinmarrett9532]

Dude. I never realized I wanted this and now it's all I want.

[@nicg9599]

HIs channel is way better than gunthots and he seems to be way more knowledgeable than those guys with their satire channel. Please leave your union. Thanks. Sincerely, Everyone

[@yvestiu6537]

Was scrolling through my feed for 2min and almost gave up and then you saved me at the last second.

[@almostontimehero5415]

A man and his Hop are not easily separated.

[@TurdyFergy]

I’m a simple man- I see a new video from my favorite deadpan FtM guntuber, and I click.

[@davidzanelli6847]

I love just the pure unbridled rage from Hop in the last 5 or so minutes of this video

[@echodelta2172]

"...clone correct if that matters. Pro-tip, it fucking doesn't" Alright, you have my like.

[@MikeNepo]

It matters for those who want it as a collectors gun, as in trying to mimic the MP-5 of the olden days that we can't have either due to laws or the original manufacturers charging absurd amounts for the neutered civilian variants. I have a SIG 556 that looks like a 551, real Swiss lower, furniture, magazines. I wanted a SIG 551, but I don't have 8 thousand fucking dollars nor would I spend that on some asshole reselling his JDI import for twice what he paid for it.

[@Zoraxon]

This channel is very rapidly becoming one of my favorites

[@jeremiahcherry5283]

The narration and sarcasm/jokes weaved within were incredible hop. Keep it up!! Id love to see your take on a 5.56 roller lock rifle.

[@kmacow]

Ran MP5s with Law Enforcement and Military for many years. Once I looked into a personal SMG/PCC platform, I went through all the available sources on the market (AR/AK, B&T, H&K, CZ, etc and finally choose the SIG MPX K gen 2. Full Ambidextrous controls, height correct rail that goes from rear to front, switched from the SIG Handguard for the Midwest M-Lok handguard, Magpul K2 grip, BAD-ASS Ambidextrous safety, SureFire M340C Mini ScoutLight and SB collapsible brace. I run an EOTech XPS3 and my PVS-14 works perfect with it.

[@kylechristensen9108]

Best reviewer on youtube, you will not change my mind

[@Crangaso]

Love my modernized PTR 9KT!

[@rickstorm4198]

Gay people typically do. Wow much pride. 🤣

[@hammerheartoutdoors9146]

This channel is slowly becoming my favorite channel, only due to the fact that his issues and fustrations with accessorizing weapons are very similiar to mine. And he keeps coming back to ARs as the only way.

[@nathansauerbier5011]

Looks inside safe " Don't worry little buddy. The mean man on the internet didn't mean it"

[@alwaystinkering7710]

LOL

[@xmus4023]

As someone who has only customized one gun (my SKS with a polymer chasis so it can take magazines as well as not get unbearably hot in the summer times), I can say that the MP5 when I shot it full auto at a range was the most pleasant and fun shooting experience with a gun I've ever had. It was so smooth. But really, other than that, owning one which I am getting myself a clone version of it, is simply aesthetic. It's just so badass. It's badass, the history of it is badass, and the iconic nature of it is badass. It will never truly be replaced, only wane usefulness as it is seen as less modular. I can't imagine a world where one armed force isn't using a MP5 or PCC at some point.

[@SMDaboobity]

I'm more excited for Hop uploads than GT uploads at this point

[@echodelta2172]

GT is a little too scripted and long winded sometimes. Hop is always gonna be salt and rage.

[@crankygunreviews]

I wondered why Hop wasn’t on any TFB TV videos of late, glad I found his channel :)

[@RedTSquared]

God I love his delivery on these reviews. Good to hear someone with logic and reason talk about MP5/Clones

[@Powderhound-cb8pb]

I have tried a few different red dots on my 9CT. I keep going back to the irons. So I went the opposite direction and picked up the classic light in the forehand grip and I am rolling with that setup. I love it. Not everything in my safe needs new tech. somethings are just better left as is.

[@Mattman2500]

I SBRed mine solved the switch problem. I also have a RM2 mounted on the right side . On a 45 degree offset rail. I like mine thousands of rounds through it.

[@themekillz]

This is by far the most accurate review there is.

[@Roamingeast]

"Not as clumsy or random as an AR-9; an elegant weapon for a more civilized age.”

[@eatingelizabethsfrizbee]

First gun review that mentions total renal failure. Great review.

[@TheMadnesscombatfan]

Wake up babe new hop video

[@TheBigLeeg]

Hops insults are the best. They hit the bullseye every time like a wordsmith on steroids.

[@theweekendoperator7122]

That little hook on the mag well is not for a sling. That's actually a hook so that weapon will hook on to your uniform. It sounds weird, but its true. It's a 'quick attach' loop for when operators want to attach it tight to their uniform when repelling or using their hands for other uses.Its located in the middle - the weight of the gun is equally distributed across the body.

[@blacktuesday7427]

What a great way to finish off the week, thanks for another video

[@PigPharmaceuticals]

This is confirmation that the only reason to buy an MP5 is for the aesthetic alone.

[@feraligatorade99]

If you're buying a PCC, an already basically useless platform, it might as well be just for the aesthetics.

[@echodelta2172]

@@feraligatorade99 or fun, they're still fun

[@corvoattano4777]

Or because nothing else is available to you.

[@bobbertbobberson6725]

@@corvoattano4777 No civilian's only choice is an MP5 or a clone

[@corvoattano4777]

@@bobbertbobberson6725 it is where i live.

[@AmericanArmsChannel]

Hoplop woke up one day with the thought of HK roller delayed blowback guns in his mind's eye and chose violence. *I LOVE IT* I laughed harder as the show went on. The final minutes are just pure flames. Keep making this honest content, it's just fantastic.

[@af22raptor23503]

Cutting the Ring of the Front sight up has been done since the late 90s when the Aimpoint 9000 were started to be used by Units like Delta and Team Six on their MP5s. Way back in the 90s there were a couple of companies that made Mounts that would allow Tactical Lights and Lasers to attach to a Mount that would go on the Cocking Tube Cap with the Replacement of the Cap with a Cap that had mounting points for one or two items on either side of the Cocking Tube. I do not know if those mounts are STILL being made but they should be available in the Secondary Market.

[@KingArthur129]

You hit the nail on the head with the PTR case man! Mine hasn't left my closet haha.

[@echodelta2172]

can you at least cut into the foam more to fit the gun back in?

[@squidy4082]

Is it that bad ?

[@Cronn-yz5bp]

Just don’t try to AR an MP5 and it will suit all ur civilian needs just fine. Very interesting video and glad someone attempted it but an MP5 was made for full auto and it being semi auto in general defeats the whole purpose of the weapon system.

[@MultiLittlePsycho]

this! I know its a 3 yr old comment, but its exactly why there's 0 purpose to PCC/SMG guns in America. A semi auto MP5 is NOT a SMG..... end of. It's basically like comparing a california 5 round AR-15 to an AK and being surprised the AK will fare better. No shit.

[@johnniefreitas3055]

Definitely getting one now

[@sorry...nowbased]

Alternate Title: Neurotic Autist swaps every accessory & optic possible onto MP5, still has bad feels...

[@themassmauler]

Hilarious

[@Wyld13kard47]

Great video, completely agree. I have wanted one of these for a long time, then I got a banshee, and now I'm happy with what I got.

[@VincitOmniaVeritas7]

06:48 I run a Romeo 1 on my Walther MP5 clone and it works well enough despite the height and allows for co-witnesses with irons like you said in the video. Just make sure you zero it at 25 yards or more as that huge “sight over bore” will give you a lot of angular error and change the point of impact wildly if you zero it any closer.

[@KingOfTheFuds]

All of your videos need to be this way. 110% full personality. You're willing to die on the hill of of the MP5 being shit by todays standards. I just ordered a second one and all of your complaints are valid. You earned my sub with this video.

[@nickstavropoulos9918]

"top scientists still don't know how a 3 point sling is supposed to work, or why anyone would ever want to use it" LMAO. I agree, I guess it is supposed to take the stress of your shoulders why you carry the gun, but more relevant in the G3/PTR 91. Mostly designed for guards who had to stand on their feet for like 8 hours at a post.

[@TheRickJames]

It's made to keep a secondary weapon at the ready with a heavy load out or rappel. Same purpose as the clip that he knew nothing about.

[@MATTNMEMPHIS]

Your sarcasm is most superior! You sir, just got a new fan!

[@wanderingwonder111]

"It's fun!" isn't an excuse, it's just a different mindset than combat training

[@aaronthompson192]

"I can shoot fast enough and I don't care about triggers, sorry." Glad I'm not the only one.

[@ridezosmon2306]

Oh my! Getting an MP5 makes you *_based_* ? I'm gonna need one soon then

[@wildcat8598]

This is exactly why I like watching Hop over his brother or any other GunTubers for that matter is he keeps it real. He never schills to companies and tells it like it is especially with overpriced firearms 👍

[@BigSlanko]

This is the equivalent to modernizing an F1 car from the 80’s to race today. Carry on.

[@fabiangonzalez-cortes8894]

That… wouldn’t be possible without throwing the whole chassis away? But, funny analogy nonetheless.

[@BigSlanko]

@@fabiangonzalez-cortes8894 Sounds like you've figured out how to make the MP5 good: roller delayed AR anyone?

[@ivancorey7389]

@@BigSlanko CMMG did radial delayed. It’s pretty damn close

[@joaovitorsilvagohl682]

Well in the 80's they didn't have ground effect? you probably can get away with it if they make the old shit in modern machines.

[@randomidiot8142]

@@BigSlanko gas delayed, di or piston 9mm AR would be fun too. It would have problems like the mp5, just different ones.

[@Quality_Guru]

I just crossed off this pistol from my wish list. You just saved me a great deal of money.

[@toulee3551]

Rent one If you can, it's completely diffrent feeling gunb

[@ohios27]

I have an MRO with that same ADM mount on my sp5 with B&T rail. The dot is perfectly placed above the front sight hood like you said. Perfect option if the MRO was better 😭. You might want to try the Magpul handguard, it's light weight. Fyi, I have the b&t side folder you mentioned. Another good option would be an ACR stock since it has an adjustable cheek weld and it's still foldable.

[@g3attack]

I catch a lot of grief when I tell people the PTR 9ct is better than the SP5. My reasoning is the mlok handguard and picattiny rail for a red dot. I put a Sightmark Wolverine and absolutely Love it!!!

[@tehashun]

I run a Mod Button on my PTR at the 6 o'clock using an offset mount so it sits sort of between the 6 and 9 (nice) position. Works okay to actuate it with my pointer finger and leaves the left side completely open for IR if I want to try in the future. Realistically though in 2021, I think any 9mm PCC/Sub gun is too compromised to be truly practical. Pistol chassis setups are smaller with similar performance and short 300blk builds are way more effective at the pewpew part and not much bigger. Because of this I went PTR because MP5s are plain just cooler than AR9s, Scorpions, etc

[@chaunceychappelle2173]

Really appreciate your tone and delivery of information Buddy. Be easy.

[@ryanashby3640]

I love the MP5 but its kinda pointless when 8" 300BLK guns exist. its cheaper, similar weight, vastly better ergos, suppresses better. Only downside is more recoil and it doesn't fold to be as small without a law folder. If I ever actually drop the money to own my own MP5 it will be purely as a range toy due it use in video game and movies.

[@enesex]

I like my PTR 9KT. It’s my truck gun. Folds up super small. 30 round mags. Good times

[@javagoblin1585]

I'll continue to shout it from the mountain tops, pistol grip compartments are perfect for a spare battery, an allan key and a glass cleaning cloth. Red dot care package bro.

[@peternorth1721]

I like how he said “face as a third point of contact”. Implying the brace isnt being shouldered. Lmao yeah BETTER NOT BE BUDDY!

[@Hoplopfheil]

Face and front of shirt only.

[@martinlag3234]

Excellent video! I love this kind of honesty and builds. Thanks from Sweden.

[@TheRickJames]

Agree with alot of what your saying especially the price. However you should consider its intended use before trying to tacticool the snot out of it. Concealment and maneuverability, it's also mostly a secondary and/or CQC engagement option. Slapping hardware all over it is counterproductive to the footprint. Smooth edges and lack of rails to snag on your gear. I'm glad it's become dated enough to finally hit the market myself, it may be a plinker in modern times but the price really is $700 more than it should be.

[@paulbunion1244]

Stupid dweeb here. I have a PTR-9CT. And yes, after putting meprolight Tritium front and rear sights, I dremeled a V cut into the front ring. I then bought a POF MP5 HK33 green lower with selector and dremeled it to fit as well. JB weld to reinforce the front. I then dropped in a Franklin trigger pack. I also added a Moore Advanced Dynamics (M.A.D.) Moore Advanced X-tractor (M.A.X) for the drop-in bolt head. Added a MI rail with a MagPul AFG-2, and topped it with a Trij MRO and GG&G QR mount. At the front of the MI bottom rail, I have Lasermax green Spartan laser/light. SB Tactical brace and KCI mags. I also have a couple HK drums and a CGSgroup qube that I can don very quickly. This is my gray backpack firepower load out, when I have to go gray, and step outside the fence. A Ferro Concepts Slingster or Spector 2 point keeps it balanced. YMMV.

[@ghostbear4417]

review a modern bull-pup, if your conclusion was this unequivocal on the mp5, would love to hear you on them.

[@echodelta2172]

It's gonna go a lot like this. Having a good amount of experience with an AUG, I can tell you they're cool guns and fun to shoot but they're still dated designs that are ergonomically obsolete compared to an AR.

[@freyylmao]

how do you only have 30k subs bro your content is so well thought out and put together

[@zedhiro6131]

I always thought if they were to modernize the MP5, you would have to throw everything away but the roller delay system and the caliber. Hop brought up a few design flaws that hadn’t occurred to me.

[@cletustheslackjawedyokel6083]

JP is making a roller delayed 9mm AR15 that takes Glock mags, but it’s expensive and I haven’t read an actual review of them yet. I’d be more interested in it if it took Scorpion mags, just because they are double feed and much easier to load. They can also lock the gun open when it’s empty and are curved to better feed the tapered 9mm. The fact that they are cheap doesn’t hurt either.

[@zedhiro6131]

@@cletustheslackjawedyokel6083 agreed I would start with the scorpion mags. If this thing isn’t vaporware, you could just get the upper and maybe get a PSA lower and work from there.

[@FXIIBeaver]

@@cletustheslackjawedyokel6083 9mm is tapered? Pretty Sure they are straight walled.

[@cletustheslackjawedyokel6083]

@@FXIIBeaver it’s only about .013” but it’s noticeable. There’s a reason most modern 9mm sub machine guns / PCC have curved mags.

[@adamy9260]

Lol glad I am not the only one that made the mistake of buying an HKPDW brace XD. Good video!

[@AlexLee-dc2vb]

glad to finally see the video but it would've been nice to see how much it would have been improved by a Spuhr or ACR stock

[@f308gtb1977]

As a several-year owner and upgrader of a 9CT, I agree wholeheartedly with every single thing you said, Hop. I tried almost all the same stuff as you did, with the same MI handguard, and I still constantly reconfigure it to this day. I absolutely love it, because it’s just a stupid nonsensical toy. If I actually needed it, I would utterly hate it.

[@psp1921tsmg]

Enjoyed the video. But I swear it sounds like “well I can’t get curb feelers to work on my Ferrari “. 😁

[@psp1921tsmg]

@Eric M obviously you haven’t driven a 1960 Ferrari. Besides you really can’t appreciate the design without the fun button.

[@slavicgondola1817]

I love your brutal honesty about the mp5, its about time someone said what you said.

[@KilroyMosin38]

The MP5 *was* an excellent gun, but if I were to buy a PCC for practical use, it would dwell around the bottom of my list. Realistically, if the SP5 or the PTR 9 were going for, say, $900-1200, they'd be worth it, but I'd rather buy a Banshee or MPX than waste my time and money on an MP5.

[@jonc2914]

U gotto shop better. My ptr 9 was 1300

[@localforearm1627]

its crazy cause you were saying all that horrible stuff at the end there and all i could think about is how i want one

[@madeconomist458]

"Use a dremel to cut off part of the front sight hood" SACRILEGE!!!

[@Hoplopfheil]

It's probably the cheapest part of the whole gun to replace.

[@Pirkan223]

When Sweden put aimpoints on the ak4 (g3) they just cut the entire front sight of and it looks like bubba did it with his angle grinder.

[@eddyflo2978]

Hops is like coffee, you either crave it or just use it to get to the toilet...

[@bosschonk]

I can vouch for the KCI Gen2s as well. I got 10 30s for my 9CT and 10 20s for my 9KT. I originally had 10 30s and 10 20s from ETS, but they seem a lot more difficult to insert than the metal KCI mags.

[@salfox1820]

If you really wanna run this gun, You are right that the side folder is best. Good call. Best weaponlight solution for this is still the surefire forend with the built in light and tape switch. No Mlok. Trust me. You will love it. Otherwise if you want IR run the little SF or streamlight IR/white/laser combo on a gooseneck. Since it has a rail, Put an AR height red dot on it with a hollow base mount (to allow use of irons) and use a homemade cheek riser of pipe foam insulation and 100mph tape to fix the cheek weld issue. Or no riser, run the red dot lower, and dremel off the top of the front sight hood. Combine with a short 9mm can and 147gr HST it is both fun and useful. All of that being said for a modern application an mp5-k with a side folder run as a pdw is best I think. Sweet little Compact setup. Run a few bailout drills with it side by side with other stuff and you will see. Video it, clock yourself.

[@tyrannissolutions3138]

I like when Hop's lesbian haircut bounces with the recoil. ^_^

[@PrayingPanda]

What can I say, Hop is right again.

[@CaptainCiph3r]

You're telling me WWII technology doesn't work really well with modern weapon concepts? that's crazy.

[@servicerifle16]

You think that's bad people still believe early 20th handguns are viable.

[@mabs9503]

_you're_ crazy

[@curtnichols6941]

I doubt if you will read this due to the age. Incredibly good job. People that buy these do not shoot them to learn the problems. I had a SOT for years and shot the shit out of MP5's. Incredibly reliable. Fucking horrible to actually "use". QUESTION, what about a JMAC 1913 rail and a side folder? You could adjust it up to correct the fucked cheek weld with a optic.

[@yakivpopavich]

I loved the G3 and MP5 in all the movies and games when I was a kid, and would love to own one. However due to the no bolt hold open and other reloading variables with those models I just got a more standard rifle instead. Why blow 4k on a H&K MP5 with no bolt hold open and all that when you can get an MPX for under 2k?.

[@TempoMontages]

ptr mp5 is 1600$

[@Ceej3]

Cause it looks better than mpx

[@jakejackson8395]

Love Hop’s videos and topics