The Rarest KV-2 Variants | Cursed by Design

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[@RandomPerson-ob1hk]

Hahahahahaha first reply On world of tanks blitz, this long barrel kv2 is so much better than the derp. But why use an accurate gun when you can slam teir 5s with HE?

[@krirthikdinesh7755]

Cone for some reason i cant use the link to see poms channel can u leave the name in the description

[@ConeOfArc]

Search Tankparty

[@leonardokaufmann8983]

@ConeOfArc i really want to buy one of these bottles but is so cashy that is impossible to me to buy

[@bjornthefellhanded5655]

@@RandomPerson-ob1hk Stat wise the 107mm is better than the 152mm,but the 152mm is easier to use in general as it hits REALLY hard if it Pens no matter what Tier your fighting due to it being a 152mm Howitzer.

[@WingMaster562]

I still find it insane to know that those giant Stalin's refrigirator turrets are *handcranked* .

[@royhsieh4307]

no problem, soviet soldiers are vodka powered

[@limes5295]

It was meant to be a bunker buster so if targets get on your flanks you are doing something very wrong.

[@WingMaster562]

​@@limes5295 It may not have needed to turn a lot but the fact that it had to be turned at all. And the idea of manually turning something equivalent to the weight of the KV-2's turret combined with the gun and ammo, is truly outstanding.

[@tankdestroyerno.2684]

Imagine handcranking the Maus turret

[@teh_copbine5081]

@@limes5295 *Bunker teleports behind you* "omae wa mou, shindeirou!"

[@superbrain3848]

its still a interestening fact that Russia still got Armored Trains in service today. It makes sense for them bcs of how large the country is.

[@SuperDeinVadda]

It's a remnant of the cold war, where nuclear missile trains were going around Russia the whole time, ready to strike back in the case of attack. With modern weapons like guided rockets and bombs, trains are sitting ducks for attacks. Easy to spot and with no where to go you bet they would be first do be destroyed.

[@Kyle-gw6qp]

@@SuperDeinVadda no where to go? Trains can move very quickly in two directions. Armoured trains are very useful for protecting train stations and rail lines. Becuase it's such a large country, Russia uses trains to transport goods, so protecting train stations and rail lines is very important.

[@DeathHead1358]

@@Kyle-gw6qp You're only partly right about the movement. Yes, a train can move relatively quickly forwards or backwards, but it can't change directions quickly. The average freight train takes well over a mile to stop, and some time to get moving again. While I'm sure an armored train won't weigh quite that much, it will still be immensely heavy and take quite a bit of real estate to stop and get moving again.

[@Kyle-gw6qp]

@@DeathHead1358 perhaps but that doesn't mean the trains aren't useful. I've outlined why they are in my previous comment.

[@Kyle-gw6qp]

@Mogatys two things: 1) Russia has different needs to most other countries due to its heavy reliance on rail transport. 2) Whoever is in charge of military decisions in Russia thought that spending millions on armoured trains is worth it, I trust their professional opinion.

[@Commander_Koyke]

KV-2 with long barrel looks like a pencil sharpener

[@_nanking5374]

never thought about that. It does tho.

[@athenajayvieljerios8343]

Ya but it's more terrarfaing

[@piloto182mx4]

@@athenajayvieljerios8343 Your grammar is horrible

[@sporperino]

@@piloto182mx4 it's spelling issues

[@sporperino]

@@athenajayvieljerios8343 terrifying*

[@jatkosotasvideoproductions934]

I hab an idea for a next cursed by design video- similar to this one actually- The BT-42

[@k-874]

The most cursed tank on the BT series which looks like a Chinese KV-2 at first but proved it's deadly efficiency after seal clubbing 3 M26 Pershings *A L O N E*

[@WingMaster562]

Ah yes, as what seen in the GuP movie, *The trollwagen* Of course you would have that idea. Profile, username and all

[@nonamesplease6288]

There's one at Parola.

[@invadegreece9281]

@@WingMaster562 the BT42 is godly in that movie

[@henryrodgers7386]

Ahh, yes. The tank equivalent of that Prius with a Vulcan cannon on the roof... Large amounts of KABOOM, and fantastic gas milage!

[@rustytanks9425]

Imagine drive-bying people on a train with a 152mm death fridge gun

[@athenajayvieljerios8343]

It will kill me

[@nonamesplease6288]

Unfortunately, you could only do people who are helpfully next to the tracks.

[@bastionandganymede9543]

@@nonamesplease6288 grab me beer and learn

[@loneneotank.5687]

this is what we needed.

[@user-xs8kf9fu2x]

yes

[@cailloux_astronomique]

YES

[@athenajayvieljerios8343]

Yes 100%

[@cyclingcmdr]

Legend tells of a KV-2 variant that was so powerful and deadly, survivors called it The Smasher.

[@carized8852]

It's op as heck

[@katyusha1283]

No, not again.

[@joskethegreat4154]

No fuck that

[@weirdunknownperson2916]

*ptsd*

[@perfectcell1157]

Fuck this thing

[@ravenouself4181]

The ZiS-6 KV-2 sounds outright terrifying

[@athenajayvieljerios8343]

Ya lol

[@ravenouself4181]

@@athenajayvieljerios8343 Why isn't it in WT!?

[@halidziak123]

@@ravenouself4181 its premium tank at WT

[@ravenouself4181]

@@halidziak123I logged-in and it's on sale for a day... too bad I can't afford it *curses that he can't get a job*

[@halidziak123]

@@ravenouself4181 Tooo bad i got this tank and its monster one shot kill mashine, long reload tho

[@OldinaryChimera]

Top 1 the Kv-7 with the special round SHVSCAPHETDFS (Super High Velocity Stalinium Capped Armor Percing High Explosive Anti Tonk Destroyer Fin Stabilized)

[@ramslade]

me: _yes._

[@tonkinspoce6949]

Basically every round in war thunder

[@miguelinigodelosreyes329]

Looks like you just slapped our keyboard

[@RandomPerson-ob1hk]

@Samuel Gosein the battle of the century

[@LilTachanka]

RUSKIII9000

[@vermas4654]

6:25 Germans: If we do something, we do it fully, thoroughly and overcomplicated!

[@tyonthompson2507]

But also somehow but over and under engineered at the same time... what could go wrong

[@triplos05_27]

-Hans! Our Tranamissions fail regularly. We gotta change that. -What did you say? More Armor? -I said Transmission! -Ah, you meant i should make the gun bigger! - T R A N S M I S S I O N ! ! ! -Aight, ill do both.

[@vermas4654]

@@triplos05_27 Henschel Factory, ca. 1944, Tiger II development

[@potatojuice5124]

My comment on the og kv2 video worked! :D

[@AryoTeWu]

4:05 The guy on the left looks like our beloved Vladimir Putin.

[@ilovepanzer3930]

Lol

[@Peter_Turbo4]

That’s because it is Putin

[@AryoTeWu]

@@Peter_Turbo4 probably lived longer than the Queen of England yea?

[@Peter_Turbo4]

@@AryoTeWu maybe, nobody really knows

[@Felix-dv9wn]

KGB spy is coming for you tommorow

[@davehood2667]

The train was certainly a more stable platform for that turret, and it makes me wonder if the gun might have fared better on one of the KV-1's competitors, the T-100 or SMK. Both were much heavier chassis and designed to be more top-heavy for those elevated main turret rings, which the MTB turret wouldn't need, as it would clear the forward turret on a flat top. As well those forward 45mm guns would be rather more useful to such a design than they were for battle tanks.

[@adyatma1]

The germans even over engineered a training dummy

[@beerkobe]

Ok hear me out, 1:18 looks like handsome Squidward on the turret. Is it just me ?

[@tyramirez6628]

Nah that's your profile picture 100%

[@katyusha1283]

I kinda saw it, but only after you mentioned it.

[@SenatorNorman]

Oh please do a video on a kv-3, kv-4, and kv-5. I would love to know their history and why they were cancelled.

[@deptusmechanikus7362]

Their history was mercifully short and they were cancelled for being heavy and unreliable trashy concepts of pre-war mentality. Soviets went with lighter KV-1s and later IS series tanks for a reason

[@matthiuskoenig3378]

@@deptusmechanikus7362 the KV-1S was stupid, its armour wasn't enough to stop german guns that predate it, making it just a slower medium tank. and to make matters worse, the IS-1 predates the KV-1S, the IS-1 turret (or as it was orginally called the KV-13) inspired the design for the KV-1S turret! instead of KV-1Ss they could have made KV-13s which share just as mutch in common with the orginal Kv-1s but are simply better layed out. the KV-13 was based on improvements on the T-150 (ie the first kv-3 design and only Kv-3 prototype), meaning the KV-3 went somewhere (the IS series) while the KV-1S was a deadend (ending in the KV-85)

[@yelloworeo8488]

@@matthiuskoenig3378 kv 1s have less armor because its too heavy so it can cross bridges smh

[@deptusmechanikus7362]

@@matthiuskoenig3378 oh yeah, of course. It was obviously stupid. If only you were there to tell Soviet command that they should instead go with even heavier tank that overheated it's engine, killed it's transmission on the move and couldn't cross most bridges or just start producing new and untested designs like KV-13 halting production of KV-1s and T-34s for months costing the army hundreds and thousands of tanks when every single machine was so needed at the front they even sent overweight POS T-150 there instead of smelting it or scrapping for parts. If only they did all that WWII could've ended by Christmas. Oh wait, dirty heathen commies don't believe in Christmas. Never mind then.

[@potatojuice5124]

Simple answers: 1: The kv cost too much and more variants would just increase it 2: the IS was in development and it was more promising

[@kriszuraw2255]

Lol I've been wondering about those variants for quite a little bit now. Thanks for covering these tanks I love these documentaries and cannot wait until the next one comes out.😀

[@rustytanks9425]

KV-2 train Halloween event

[@rhubbs1258]

KV-2 with Zis-5 gun looks so wrong

[@alexander1485]

Its a zis 6

[@jeremygaming1375]

Your face is wrong

[@ilyaszaim6494]

Yea im not supposed to look like that and i really like my derp gun more

[@hadinalfitrah7760]

Not at all, it looks good

[@ravenouself4181]

It looks awesome, end of discussion or you go to gulag

[@tankdestroyerno.2684]

I love your "cursed by design" content that's why i subscribed, i wish you make more videos like these.

[@wangl601]

Good video! KV-1S chassis also deserves some love! So many kv-xxx and obj.xxx are based on it!

[@nemesio9164]

Mm yes the legendary pencil gun

[@Commander_Koyke]

Next Cursed by design: SP 1C

[@alexander1485]

Pz2j

[@idiedlongago2336]

amx 40 😏

[@tsuaririndoku]

Stalin: Accuracy? What is accuracy? There is no such thing... just shoot! I’ll handle the shells to the target....

[@Supernionra]

Should've talked about the planned "modernized" turret that was deemed unacceptable for production

[@hauptmannerich]

Me in KV-2 : *YEET**

[@battlev1nce467]

*HE flies towards target by itself*

[@LukeSkywalker6]

I can tell you with confidence that World Of Tanks and War Thunder players have not forgotten this monster...

[@unnecessaryammorack]

Oh that KV-2 with the 107mm is definitely cursed.

[@kh2b573]

Doesnt mean you're not used to it doesnt mean its cursed , I could literally slap on a short 75mm on a late war panzer 4 (yes they existed) and most people would already consider it "cursed" when it make sperfectly good sense

[@snorp6781]

You mean the KV-2 with the skinny dick gun?

[@unnecessaryammorack]

@@kh2b573 bro, it ain't that serious. It's just a meme.

[@pasatora5229]

Man thank you for all of this videos full of information because I can tell my friends and be cool.

[@liamjohnston4495]

Perfect for my birthday! Love the vids cone!

[@malt_inthemood]

Happy birthday!

[@_nanking5374]

Happy birthday my man

[@squirrele.1266]

Happy B-day

[@the7observer]

3:02 - didn't in one of the tests of the 122mm cannon the muzzle brake exploded, hurting a high ranking office making him oppose the cannon but Stalin insisted on it since it would be put on the IS tank (that had Stalin's name on it)?

[@kod47]

The first version of the muzzle brake for 122 mm gun D-25T installed on the IS chasse did explode during testing ALMOST hitting comrade Peter Voroshilov, but he didn't oppose the cannon, he opposed the muzzle brake design. Stalin had nothing to do with the decision to install a 122 mm cannon on a tank, because it was the only available gun at that moment with the sufficient armor penetrating capabilities (there was also a 100 mm D-10T gun which was tested and proved to be superior in every aspect, but there was not enough AP rounds for it in supply and production and switching production from 122 mm to 100 mm shells was impossible during the war as it would lead to massive shortages of rounds for both guns). Some photos with the prototype muzzle breaks warspot.ru/11233-is-s-tyazhyolym-vooruzheniem

[@jeromeorange3792]

quick question: what tank couldnt the KV-zis 6 penetrate at a kilometer range??? the whole german arsenal was pretty poorly armored at that time

[@alecritchie5669]

At the time of its creation, nothing the Germans had could really bounce a shot. Later in the war with the Panther and Tigers could bounce the shot to only the Tiger 2 was completely immune to the zis 6 at long range

[@bankhanger2]

@@alecritchie5669 don't forget tank destroyers with their well amored upperstructures like the jagdtiger and ferdinand/elephant and possibly even the jagdpanther.

[@alecritchie5669]

@@bankhanger2 didn’t forget just casmates aren’t usually too much different than their normal counterparts

[@ravenouself4181]

@@bankhanger2 the jagdtiger would be the only immune one. The jagdpanther would be able to bounce shots at specific conditions. And the ferdinand would fare as good as the tiger 1, which is to say it would get penetrated.

[@AFT_05G]

@Not_Ambrose No less than 80 were made,not 50.

[@willardijatmiko1054]

The pain of having only 2 crew members in KV 2

[@andreasleonardo6793]

Nice video with clear explaining of characters of train tank of Soviet history...joins of kv2 towers on armoured vehicles

[@pastywhitebae7821]

Just found your channel and I can't stop watching

[@fatt0nk171]

STRV2000 was an underated MBT project in 1984 on sweden, hope you can cover that tank

[@ComradeArthur]

Recalling his experience in My Early Life, Churchill wrote "Nothing looks more formidable and impressive than an armoured train; but nothing is in fact more vulnerable and helpless. It was only necessary to blow up a bridge of culvert to leave the monster stranded, far from home and help, at the mercy of the enemy". Churchill was on a armored train during the Boer war. The train was attacked and he got captured. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armoured_train#Second_Boer_War ----- There are a lot of examples of armored trains being successfully used. Mostly on defense. Using the train on offense (like the train Churchill was on) is trickier.

[@jamesavery3559]

thank you very much for the show, question i have been trying to find a pic of a destroyed kv2 turret that show's the barrel and breech block split open.

[@Solar_Messenger]

Drunk Soviet soldier: This fridge is so big.. but why is the gun so small Soviet engineers: Want a bigger gun? Drunk soviet soldier: *BIGGER GUN*

[@trololoev]

drunk soldier = dead soldier

[@danielm.595]

@@trololoev NIET! A drunk Russian is a better Russian!

[@athenajayvieljerios8343]

Cone: the 107mm gun was capable of knocking out any tank on the barrel field. IS-3,IS-8,IS-7: WE ARE A JOKE TO YOU

[@smilingknight4532]

The 107mm gun was indeed capable of knocking out any tank it would face, as it would never face late war or post-war tanks

[@Kalashnikov413]

Wait, why there's a post-war tank here?

[@samuelnemeth7764]

4:02 Amazing video! I just wanted to point out that the train translates to “For Family” and not “For motherland”. Either way i enjoy your content, keep it up!

[@Kalashnikov413]

"Za Rodinu" is "For the Motherland" in Russian

[@wideyxyz2271]

I like the idea that the Axis forces ended up waiting lots of resources to take out the armoured train even if this was unintentional on the part of the soviets. Wasting time, effort and resources is often overlooked in warfare!

[@k3tara178]

congrats on the sponsor mate!

[@SarntRexxo]

Would love to see Cone do a video on the E series tanks Germany tried to field.

[@ConeOfArc]

I picked up some sources for that recently. You'll probably see quite a few weird German designs in the coming months.

[@amazingandy007yt3]

pls do one on the panther ii

[@bucketofwhitepaint888]

I don't know why if I watch ur videos are so cool because coldest water supports ur videos.

[@kayagorzan]

Hell yeah! More Derp guns

[@od1452]

Adding to my previous comment.. Could that turret ( about 4:38) be the ones they used on the BT artillery tanks?

[@lilhrabinator2283]

Maybe you could make the next cursed by design on some of the American heavy tanks such as the m6a1, T34, and T32.

[@file4130]

Do a video on all the forgotten sherman variants Kinda like the T53

[@pablojesus7359]

Thank you very much for Subtitles In Portuguese From Brazil I follow all videos even those without subtitles

[@bobman36]

It’s always a good sign the most replayed point is the end of the add read

[@not0rpheuz]

o cara q legenda os video tudo merece um beijo 👍🏿

[@hithere2314]

man i love this

[@animedreamnetwork245]

You should have way more views and subs man.

[@UK-je1gy]

2:02 that's Warthunder

[@justacatwithghostlygibus9823]

0:01 look at my boy Making first steps

[@flatoad6950]

Ooh the long skinny zis6 cannon I use that gun on WoTB!

[@KemoTherapy69]

Normal KV-2: i sleep. Long Barreled KV-2: *Incoherent screaming*

[@flogger3858]

Love the video

[@obeyobay9146]

They say if you forget these KV-2 variants, they will hunt you down

[@bigbigmushy7338]

Do a video on the smk, t100 and the su100 y. Do they have the same hull or is it different.

[@ThePanzerKorps]

Where can I get those tank models?

[@Ian-xn4vg]

I Love the kv2

[@randomcarpenter3251]

Wher did you get the small maus

[@nathanhuxley8603]

Can we also have the Pz 4 which utilities the artillery gun from Su-76

[@MSNvet]

Obrigado pela legenda!

[@marvinrey79]

You know what dude ... heck ya ima buy a coldest water bottle 😂 great content 👌

[@Atomicarz]

Oh yeah its WoT KV-2 time

[@yinyang7731]

Crazy even trains have story’s to tell from ww2

[@sgtwang]

The link to poms channel is not working for me

[@quyenle6302]

The kv2 turret makes it looks like a very happy tonk

[@willrichards4254]

Vid on the o-I the only Japanese heavy :)

[@nadaaqui6363]

Bom conteúdo mano

[@carol-annthurlow2775]

You should look at the Panther M10

[@royalnavy2]

Can you do a video of the vk.05.02?

[@ino1820]

song in background?

[@the.......3694]

I still remember that kv2 virant

[@kendrajoycelato6663]

Hitler:that thing had to be destroyed by a tiger The armor of kv2:THIKK

[@theoriginalbanana3195]

I BET THERE IS GONNA BE SOMETHING BOUT THE KV-6 BCZ IT HAD BOTH THE TURRET AND THE GUN OF THE KV 2

[@blurredputin1755]

Kv6 is photo shopped

[@k-874]

World of Tanks players: "Whomst has awaken the great ancient one?" Edit: Stop arguing in the replies wether WT or WoT is better you immature crybabies both games suck

[@Saito10101]

Lol

[@guesser__2232]

world of tanks lol kinda cringe

[@smiesznywalenty658]

War Thunder wallet warriors who played the game since 1969: "It was I, Demon! Now perish!" (Btw the long barreled variant on the left of the thumbnail is in WT)

[@gandydancer0465]

Yea the kv2(zis6)

[@snorp6781]

@@gandydancer0465 Otherwise known as the skinny dick gun KV-2

[@nhtheintrovert5679]

are you willing to do a cursed by design on the M18 Super Hellcat/other M18 Variants?

[@seasquatch6829]

Do a video on the m38 wolfhound

[@juanmanuel9864]

Could you do a video on kv6. Was it real? Like I read somewhere that there was files on some development on the tank.

[@thecowgod2575]

it was a joke model that somone made

[@blurredputin1755]

God damit I don’t want to wait

[@austriagamed9834]

How about some ISU variants like the BL-10 one :)

[@noobepro_7146]

Now i know from your video that Maus smaller than that bottle, I think its bit bigger

[@JoshuaC34]

I haven't seen the video yet, but I hope we see the kv-2-2-2 and the kv-2^3

[@darkfuse2598]

What is that ARL looking tank at the end of the intro?

[@Kalashnikov413]

FCM F1

[@callumstephenson5450]

Was that a maus and a e100 and a ostwind

[@jp50111]

4:04 If Dio was on Ussr

[@piu_br255]

make a video talking about the amx 50 a french heavy tank

[@natalieorlando6583]

Bro I thought the train was the kv6 for a hot minute lmao

[@T_PLAYER]

what about the is-2/kv-2? thechnically not a kv-2 variant, it is basically just an is-2 with a kv-2 turret and nothing more, but it is an interesting looking vehicle

[@zorain2354]

KV-2 turret is has no hull, So they just put on a IS-2 hull for show in the museum...if I remember correctly

[@kulkidz33]

Funny you upload a video with the KV-2 and its Zis-6 gun. I got killed by it in war thunder

[@someweirddude656]

ConeOfArc has a Maus100 (Maus first prototype) in a box in the start of the video lol.

[@surthinksalot8271]

This man

[@gregorius4648]

Ahhh yes, uncle Stalin favorite fridge. They say he store 500 vodka in it

[@filippoorologio6777]

YES