The Real Reason behind Alexander's Return from India

In this video, I discuss what were the different reasons that compelled Alexander to return from the Beas River.
References:-
1. The Invasion of India by Alexander the Great by J.W Mcrindle
2. War Elephants by John M. Kistler
3. Hellenistic military & naval developments by W. W. Tarn
4. In the Path of Conquest - Waldemar Heckel
5. Alexander and the East by A B Bosworth
6. Alexander the Great. 1, Narrative by W. W. Tarn
7. Alexander the Great. II, Sources and studies by W. W. Tarn
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[@ShekhArsh-vf1uw]

What an explanation sir.. hats off to you just excellent ❤

[@raginisingh2251]

V. Informative video

[@venkateshu8715]

Superb

[@TheOneWhoKnocks70]

It was also decisive decision from Alexander's part, i like how he didn't gey coc*y with all of the victory and pay heed to his soldiers.

[@randomturd1415]

Alexander wasn't an imperialist for personal reasons. He wanted his people, the Macedonian, to enjoy power and status amongst the other Greeks afaik. And violence and conquest was respected and rewarded at that time.

[@christeankapp6549]

I don't disagree with your additional conclusion. It makes sense but what about logistics? I assumed Alexander practiced living off the land but do the sources mention problems? An army cannot march on an empty stomach

[@Liquidsback]

Alexander's army had a great baggage train with them and his logistics were cutting edge for the day. Also during the March in the Gedrosian Desert he had the fleet of Nerachus that helped with supplies.

[@rajdeepsaha5607]

Very hard to believe as described by Greek sources - that a victor like Alexander would let a defeated king like Porus go so easily. Are there more examples in history where Alexander has meted out a similar treatment to his foes? Secondly, if the troops were so exhausted and mutinied, why did they choose new unexplored territory and then finally return via the sea? They had conquered territory behind them, they could have comfortably gone back to Persia via the same route they had taken to come to India. No cities that Alexander claims to have founded (are known of India - the best you can do is guess). In Egypt, where he won a decisive victory - a city(Alexandria) which bears his name still exists.

[@tejeshteja7565]

Valid point it means he got defeated by porus and run away

[@Invincible2203]

Lol no, a Persian satrap(mazaeus) under Darius was given satrapy of Babylon after he surrendered it to Alexander without a fight. Fun fact : this satrap also commanded right wing of Darius army at battle of gaugomela. You need to read history.

[@ethinesvedi7246]

Can you please do videos on less know kings of india like malik ambar and others like him 🙏

[@Arya-jf2pq]

That was Atatuk's photo as the writer

[@vinz8081-2]

Great explanation brother. But please try making a detailed video on Semiremis invasion of India and how Semiremis herself was stopped by an Indian king named Stabobrates, as he is called by the Greeks.

[@tvrulz46]

It is generally seen as a historical myth

[@History_Teller1250]

Semiramis is a legendary figure that never existed in reality...

[@Zzmaster_-mj2xv]

Usually all historical legends have some real basis​@@History_Teller1250

[@Dodlo32888]

"If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles”. “Pick your battles carefully, knowing which ones is fought to worth and which not”. - sun tzn Those words define this video very easily . Alexander didn’t know much about the land he standing(india) but he clearly had the idea what he’s standing against. He standing against a nanda army which is 2 times or more larger than his army, with Hundreds of elephants. But “mentally” the nanda army is far more superior then the Devastated homesick Macedonian army. So only a stupid can take the Decision to fight in those Circumstances. For Alexander Prospective it’s clear: go back to Babylon, Stabilise your Authorities and throne. Build an greek-persian army over Hundred thousand soldiers. Bring Ethiopian/African (Through Egypt) and Indian elements. Gather more information about your enemies Weaknesses (political rivalry with chandragupta). And then nock them for battle in their most Vulnerable time! Same thing Philip ii did with greek city-states and Alexander with the parsian empire.

[@gopichand6640]

Can you please make video on sukraniti

[@Progamermove_2003]

Nanda Empire forced Alexander to retreat by their mere existence only for people to forget about them today. I've heard certain people claiming that Puru had actually defeated Alexander and that most sources are lying about the battle. Wouldn't it be more embarrassing for Westerners to admit that a certain Indian power forced Alexander to retreat by it's mere existence?

[@taitreyarr2715]

I agree with the assessment that Alexander lost. He retreated through Balochistan/sea route and lost half his army in the process. The only reason Alexander would take this route would be that the way back through the normal route of North Punjab was blocked and not safe for retreat.

[@indrajeet]

exactly - if Alexander had dared to march further eastwards - he would have been obliterated.

[@Dodlo32888]

Some people also says pyramids made by aliens. But there is no historical source about that! In that same way we should see history in source and facts. Which you are very much lacking!

[@Dodlo32888]

⁠@@taitreyarr2715 It’s not half of his army bro💀. Alexander sent much of his army to arachosia (now in Afghanistan) and Carmania (modern southern Iran) with his general Craterus, and commissioned a fleet to explore the Persian Gulf shore under his admiral Nearchus while he led the rest of his forces back to Persia by the southern route through the Gedrosian Desert. So Alexander only took 1/3 of his army in the desert. So the death might be lesser than 1/3 because many soldiers able to came back with Alexander from the desert. Besides craterus did cross the “Modern day” punjab to entered arachosia!

[@Liquidsback]

​@@taitreyarr2715Nah, the Gedrosian Desert also had not fully submitted to Alexander's rule as well. Not to mention other paths were taken and the Macedonian army was also supplied by Nearchus' fleet.

[@AbcDef-gw4dg]

Can you make history of Ashwamedha Yagya.

[@taitreyarr2715]

Why did India decline after 1100's. Actually climate. Beginning the 1200's the famines started in India, making large empires unsustainable. India moved to medium sized empires, although still large by global standards. It would be incorrect to say the Indians couldn't defend. The Islamic empires finished empires from Spain to Iran in 15 to 25 years each. It took them 70 years to get only a small foothold in Sindh and then another 400 to reach Delhi where they remained restricted to the city for 150 years. The British started in 1495 and finally captured India in 1820's with major rebellion in 1857. They ruled for another 90 and left after WW2 after the smallest hint of another rebellion in the 2 million strong Indian armed forces. India did not have a technology disadvantage....remember they invented missiles centuries before anyone else. Horses were an issue.....the Arabian stock could outrun and out carry Indian breeds. Indians also did not have sufficient grasslands to breed them in large numbers.

[@futureborak]

you are right

[@amitpratap7551]

There was another reason for India's decline which I analysed after studying Arthshastra and Chanakya's handling of returning Yavan (Greek, under Selucas Nicator). This was the classic case of "Hard times produce Good Leaders and Good times produce soft Leaders". While Chanakya advocated worked treatment of Yavan (Adharmic Malecch), by Prithviraj's time this Shatrubodh was forgotten and Prithviraj spared the invading mulla ghori 16 times (incorrectly following Dharma which is meant only for Dharmic opponents).

[@ranveersr8080]

​​@@amitpratap7551Prithviraj's advisors were noob, also the story of Prithviraj sparing Ghori is highly unreliable and most probably completely false.

[@padmapriyam9128]

In my view declining of India is due to investors policy of keeping us away from bharatheeya virus. Due to which we have forgotten about the values in our system and learning. Also many generations have failed to learn sanskrit and other original texts as they were grabbed by foreigners. I am retelling the stories of sri viswanatha in my channel viswanatha naval Aditya sravanti basing on the research of sri kota venkatachalam in telugu. Those who are interested may follow.

[@padmapriyam9128]

Sorry. I wish to say that invaders have kept us away from our cultures and education system. The same continued after independence also.

[@vedicarya7]

0:13 Eastern shore?

[@Chahaman_Harshit_00]

जय मालवगणः 🙏🙏🚩🚩

[@kashutosh9132]

Hi Jay, I have question regarding human migration in India. If onge and Sentinel people are as old as the first humans who arrived in India,so why did even after 60-65k years they still resemble african black people more than rest of Indians? If we assume our first ancestors used to look like them then 65k years of mutation and distinct geography chnaged our facial features from african to present Indians - why didn't their facial feature change? What drives distinct facial features like white,Indian,black and mongloid? If all come from one ancestors ,how did their facial features become so distinct,how much times it take to evolve into distinct facial features? Any data?? and why does Indians and people of Indian subcontinent look distinct from rest of the globe?

[@randomturd1415]

This is a biology question. Ask a biologist. Also maybe the sentinel may resemble Africans in skin color but in genes Africans are closer to Europeans than the sentinels. This is the because the sentinels split off and became isolated from the rest of humanity long ago. Also facial features and skin color evolve with surrounding like evolution

[@anaesthete5592]

Onges and sentinel people are genetically more close to east Asians than Africans, maybe because of the isolation they still carry the ancient phenotype and skin colour

[@kashutosh9132]

@@anaesthete5592 Yeah,my overall question is how did Indians,east Asians,whites,Balck - got their distinct facial features and what factors are behind those facial features and as many say that climate and surrounding are imp factors in deciding the facial features then why did the the facial features of onges and sentinels changed even though they have lived 60k+ year in Indian subcontinent,is their more to facial features then just surrounding and climate. + (Hypothetical) - say some group from Japan comes here in India,then how much time it will take them to look like Indians.

[@anaesthete5592]

@@kashutosh9132 maybe they did changed maybe this wasn't how they looked when they first arrived in the Islands, over these tens of thousands years they probably did mutated and the the present day physical features are a result of adaptation according to the climate and surroundings of the Islands maybe the change wasn't that significant because they haven't mixed with any other groups to show that much change in physical appearance Hypothetically ike you said if a group of people from Japan come here and without any further mixing with local Indians it would probably take 10s of thousands years to show significant change in the appearance and they not gonna look Indian without mixing with Indians, we are a mix of different ancient ancestral populations without those ancestral components they not gonna look like us These are just my speculations I don't know much about genetics or anthropology

[@yashbheda3335]

One more important thing to consider is that ,in the history of alexander , his army was a rotating army . He used to change his soldiers from his campaigns in Persia and other areas , his Greek core also was stationed for resting in various places from time to time . The fatigue point makes no sense. The point that soldiers missed their family is a poor attempt to save face by Western historians , the soldiers had wives and concubines wherever they went . They didn't have a family back home for a long time , makes nk sense to suddenly miss them just at the gates of India. The third point is that porus prospered after the war ... Why would a losing king prosper after the war ?

[@nucleokamanager7366]

It was Gangaridai, an ancient Bengali Civilization and Kingdom which forced Alexander and his soldier to return. And also the hot tropical climate was unbearable for him and his soldiers after the long battles that he faught earlier.

[@parassharma7800]

No it wasn't. Alexander did not reach Bengal. There are few Kingdoms between Jhelum and Bangel which existed but Arian do not mention any of it.

[@SouravChattopadhyay-Rarhi]

@@parassharma7800 read Greek and Roman sources. They themselves claiming who is you kid?

[@anaesthete5592]

Gangaridai is suppose to be Nandas and they were magadhan not Bengali

[@SouravChattopadhyay-Rarhi]

@@anaesthete5592 Gangaridai was a seperate Kingdom not Nanda or Magadha. Read History before commenting anything.

[@anaesthete5592]

@@SouravChattopadhyay-Rarhi but at the time of Alexander's invasion the Bengal region was under the Nandas then who's gangaridai

[@animeshdebnath3796]

Your contents are great but my suggestion is making video in Hindi for more views... Best of luck for this types of content 😁😁

[@randomturd1415]

Hindi channel hai ek pehle se

[@parjanyashukla176]

Most of the Greek accounts of his campaign themselves were written long after his death. There is as much exaggeration as is there in Ramayana or Mahabharata, it's just that European colonial powers wanted to portray Greece as the "cradle" of "Western civilization" and thereby all their accounts as factual and objective. I personally think that he never really won the Battle of Jhelum and Ambhi just trapped him in the Indian subcontinent, because he wanted interior Janapadas to taste the responsibility of guarding the Indus as he was personally fed up of it. The rumours near Beas were probably created by his own forces and not Indians of that time.

[@HhshhsHh-dw3qq]

Make a video on karakota Empire

[@chotadon967]

cathians...and kathi of gujrat are same peoples.....they were originally from near kabul then migrated in diff. prts oof india in diff time....

[@paulomi9351]

Yes 😊 Afghanistan and region around river kabul river whose ancient name is kubha mentioned in Sanskrit and avestan scriptures of parsis has very ancient history and ancestry shared with our India Actually Afghanistan region is part of bharatvarsh history and ancestry

[@shekharb2981]

Nice rendering of picture joining various clues for a particular era. But still not convinced to support the reality of an era of Alexander,may be mythical as there is no evidence to suggest from India’s past literature.

[@AspirantKanishka]

The big big reasons were ... 1. They were tired of excessive fightings 2. They heard the glory and strength of Nandas

[@Dodlo32888]

3. Go back, be prepared and came back! But bro didn’t survive 💀

[@Liquidsback]

​@meteor541Not the first time, Achaemenids had them at Gaugamela but didn't really use them.

[@user-px8ix3if8i]

Bhai aap ek bat batao, aap marathon dod rhe ho 100km ki tu 95km pe "EXHAUST" Thodi na honge tab toh excitement hogi ki chalenge khatam hone wala h. Toh Greek ka bhi same hona chayiye that ki bas india reh rha hai phir ghar jayenge. Gaand phati padi thi unki isliye chale gaye. Sangam talks pe vedio aaya hai porus the great karke. Aap voh dekh lijiye.

[@ayushkumarsingh3029]

​@meteor541 yes 15 India war elephants

[@Invincible2203]

Nicely put, but what I have read about Alexander the great, he would rather die fighting in the east than to have to return, his ambitions were too great for that, he returned(not actually, Macedonians also went through mallian campaign after mutiny at hyphasis river) only because his soldiers were not eager to fight for whatever reason.

[@AlEx-qj3de]

mutintt was climatic heat, desert, they had come from cooler temperate area.

[@revevone1]

Our History's conclusion: warriors > some freakin' kings Well, God bless our Indian Army.

[@brucebanner2961]

Hey man I found your channel recently. And have watched almost every video. Thanks for the great analysis!! Do you think india's biggest problem was that after Gupta empire there wasn't a subcontinent spinning big empire, that's why we couldn't defend big invasions after 1100s? Or was it technological prowess that was too low on india's end? With elephants not being as great in war as they used to be by 1100

[@agniswar3]

Centuries of in-fighting, betrayal and a lack of unity is the prime cause for foreign invaders to get hold in the Indian subcontinent.

[@randomturd1415]

India was militarily quite behind other areas like central Asia, which had horse archers, the fighter planes of their era.

[@agniswar3]

@@randomturd1415 so you want to say that medieval Indians didn't had a cavalry?

[@anaesthete5592]

​@@agniswar3 mediaeval Indian cavalry wasn't capable as the central Asian horde

[@jupe2001]

No civilisation succeded against steppe nomads and their horse archers. India had excellent cavalry and infantry but that is only useful against other settled peoples like Persians, Greeks, Arabs, etc. Steppe nomads use hit and run tactics and avoid close combat and are thus pretty much undefeatable. The only reason Europe survived was because their geography stopped the expansion of nomads into their territory. This led to Europe eventually surpassing and dominating the rest of civilised world. Ancient Nalanda was burned around the same time the 1st universities in Europe were being founded.

[@Dharmic_boy]

Alexander got his ass kicked that's what happened. There no way a cruel ruler like alaxander will spare porus who even killed his favorite horse. So much so he also returned not only his land but also his neighbour kingdom land, wow. Sounds like porus defeated him and took back his land. Also why did they didn't go back the same route they came but instead took the harsh river route in which many of gis troops died due to exhaustion, also they got attacked by the tribals their way back. Only defeated armies are attacked by tribals and pirates

[@Progamermove_2003]

Ever heard of the Nanda empire?

[@vedicarya7]

Well we never know

[@tvrulz46]

You need to read more about Alexander’s life to understand his decisions

[@madhyam2879]

First viewer

[@contemporarymatters8106]

But what are the Indian narratives available regarding Alexander?

[@JayVardhanSingh]

there's none

[@contemporarymatters8106]

@@JayVardhanSingh Thanks for the candid reply.

[@girishg414]

The bigger question is why Alexander returned via strange Balochi lands where his armies were constantly harrassed?

[@MyPunksta]

He fought porus and he alexander gave back his kingdom.Indian sources dont even mention him while persian history does.

[@Liquidsback]

Wait, you have contemporary Achaemenid sources on the subject of Alexander? As a historian, Why are you keeping this from the world?

[@bharat7917]

"Exhaustion" as a reason for mutiny among Alexander's troops is a pile of BS, frankly. The troops could have been given R&R in Persia or in Ambhi’s kingdom nearby, and could have been rotated around. Even the troops' families could be arranged to travel to Persia and spend some time with the soldiers there - money was not an issue for Alexander who controlled all the riches of the lands from Macedonia all the way to Beas river. That way, all of Alexander's army would have been able to get over any exhaustion / homesickness in about a year and then could go on eastwards. Remember, Alexander's troops did NOT ask for a break in the campaign. They asked to go BACK to Macedonia, meaning they had completely given up on Alexander and his world-conquering dreams.

[@kamran945]

Rain, snakes, wild animals etc are good excuses to hide the truth that Alexander was defeated by Raja Puru and was forced to flee not from the land routes but the sea route.

[@prasanth2601]

In one way or other Alexander is truly a great conquer of his time only behind Cyrus the great of achameids.

[@taitreyarr2715]

Also behind Genghis Khan. Tactically I would rate him behind Bajirao who was a genius at maneuvering and won battles with far less resources.

[@ShafqatjahanTabassum]

​@@taitreyarr2715you would rate him behind bajirao lol 😂 who is bajirao , well I might have thought for a second if you would have said sambhaji wel he was a great conquerer for marathas logically sambhaji would not be considered as someone in place of these great conquerors let alone bajirao

[@taitreyarr2715]

@@ShafqatjahanTabassum It means you have not read about Bajirao....his tactics are studied even today at West Point. He was only two or three generals never to have been defeated in his lifetime. And this is across 22 campaigns.

[@ShafqatjahanTabassum]

@@taitreyarr2715 he was defeated in Maratha raid on Delhi by mughals, battle of Balapur and nizams carnatic campaigns these are battles in which he was defeated if you don't believe search those battles or in can give you ref too from history books

[@ShafqatjahanTabassum]

@@taitreyarr2715 also there are many generals who were undefeated if you say 2-3 then more than these are there in India for example Alauddin khilji never lost a battle , sher shah Suri never lost a battle , timur never lost a battle, Rana Kumba never lost a battle , Krishnadevaraya(one of my fav hindu kings) of Vijaynagar he was undefeated , Ahmad shah bahmani never defeated , samudragupta undefeated see there are so many and even more than that there were many Muslim generals in India and in everywhere around world who are undefeated 😉 especially KAHLID IBN AL WALID (SWORD OF GOD )

[@padmapriyam9128]

Being a PhD research scholar, have you read the books written by sri r.c. majumdar or sri kota venkatachalam garu. If not please study those books. Sri kota venkatachalam garu has proved that Alexander is not a contemporary of chandraguptha mourya who ruled from 1534 bc, but to gupta chandraguptha who ruled magadha during 327bc. Thus he has corrected the chronology of indian history from maha bharath period till independence. Dont rely upon the concocted stories written by foreigners. Please look into the matter, before making the other videos. Even in u tube you can get the sa.e info if you search for the same in sangam talks channel.please open your eyes. Dont look through the lenses.

[@technoyamraj]

Yeah their is distortion in our chronological history and so confusion in chandragupta of maurya Dynasty and Gupta Dynasty .... Kota venkatachalam garu has proved that ...✌️🙏

[@AspirantKanishka]

He is telling if they hadn't ever fought in rain 😅 They crushed Porus and other small kings submitted before them .. why they will stay in snaky jungle when they were welcomed in the forts

[@Playerone1287]

Are you a South Indian bro?

[@AspirantKanishka]

​@@Playerone1287naa

[@rahulvats95]

​@@Playerone1287looking at his face probably

[@Playerone1287]

@@rahulvats95 mujhe bhi laga typical south indian lag rha hai

[@Aryandescendent4914]

​@@Playerone1287is there any problem

[@indiantiger.1419]

If you know real history Rajputs were the reason why india get deeply invaded.........But british history glorifies them because they were britishers boitlickers....also they destroyed maratha by fighting with the side of britishers.....they tied maratial reaktion with mughals....only some king fought against mughals.. also they just fought for their kingdom and not for country and rekigion.

[@stboys1932]

Jai kshtriya chandragupta muri

[@ishaanrohmetra3447]

why there is no mention of chanakya vishnugupt in any of these sources?

[@narutouzumaki2157]

He was later fabrication.

[@ishaanrohmetra3447]

@@narutouzumaki2157 mtlb?

[@AspirantKanishka]

​@ishaanrohmetra3447 chanakya was jaychand of that era 😂

[@ishaanrohmetra3447]

@@AspirantKanishka why making fake id and speaking nonsense. Atleast he wasnt like you or your forefathers. Go study kid .

[@Playerone1287]

​@@AspirantKanishkaare you an south indian

[@RahulKumar-cf3pr]

I belive Alexander was defited badly otherwise why he left India 🇮🇳 and his soldiers denied to fight not make sense if someone stand on the world largest wealthy Umpire who holds 50 per gdp of the world and you broke the get then why do you stop unless you defited in to broken process

[@user-nn3md4yr2c]

Alexander got trashed by the Indians

[@user-cw3vl1ns1m]

I don't believe Alexander had won in India

[@stboys1932]

Jai rajputana

[@SouravChattopadhyay-Rarhi]

Alexander returned because of Gangaridai or Gangaridhi or Gangararhi or Gangarastra, an ancient Bengali Civilization and Kingdom. He witnessed huge amount of strong War Elephants and the hot tropical weather which forced him and his soldiers to return back.

[@randomturd1415]

Did he visit Bangladesh where he witnessed elephants? Stop the nonsense please

[@SouravChattopadhyay-Rarhi]

@@randomturd1415 Read Greek sources and Roman sources to clarify your doubt. Gangaridai had huge and strong War Elephants. And Gangaridai was not just Bangladesh but Vanga including Indian Bengal and North East most possibly.

[@paulomi9351]

​@@SouravChattopadhyay-Rarhinope King kharvela of Kalinga desh did fight yavanas or Greeks who were in region of mathura But kharvela existed during time of pushyamitra shunga who succeeded Mauryan Dynasty While Alexander attacked today's Punjab Pakistan when magadh was ruled by Nanda Dynasty rulers Nanda king had defeated Kalinga and taken Kaling jina (Jain tirthankar idol ) to magadh 😊

[@paulomi9351]

​@@SouravChattopadhyay-Rarhi The Sindhu Sauvira janpada was under king udayan who took Jain diksha under 24th tirthankara vardhaman mahavir when magadh was ruled by haryanka Dynasty king shrenik or bimbisar ardent follower of vardhaman mahavir After haryanka Dynasty king shreniks grandson udayin (not same as udayan of Sindhu sauvira) sudden demise,Nanda Dynasty came into power and took over reigns of magadh That time Sindhu sauvira janpada was briefly taken over by king Darius but later he retreated back to his kingdom due to problems in his satrapy When Alexander attacked today's Punjab Pakistan area, he also burnt persepolis and destroyed Darius kingdom on the way Alexander was Macedonian prince and that time there was no Greek civilization but small kingdoms Do you know about Alexander meeting a digambar Jain monk named kalyan muni or kalanos on way home. Jainism whose ancient name is shraman dharma or anekantawad also called samanism or shramanism is way ancient dharma than Buddhism Rather Buddha is title for enlightenment All 24 jinas or arihant or arhaat or teerthankar of Jain Dharma are enlightened being who obtain tri kaal gyaan or kevailya Shraman dharma akka Jainism is way ancient dharma and you would like to know that even chengez khan was tengrism follower,a branch of samanism and not Islam 😊 Bharatvarsh history and ancestry is way ancient and obviously human civilization and history of bharatvarsh does not start with Mauryan Dynasty and Ashok Grand son of Ashok was samrat samprati who was son of Ashoks blind son kunala Samprati also known as Jain Ashok was staunch Jainism follower and built several Jain temple and stupas all across his kingdom which stretched even upto khotan and till china Historians have purposely not mentioned his name Ashok retired from political life after Kalinga desh war while his son Mahendra and sanghmitra joined Buddhists sangh. However the kingdom was distributed amongst his other sons and samrat samprati got kingdom of ujjain which he expanded with his own military and skill mind Jainism was not alien to Mauryan Dynasty as even before Mauryan Dynasty,Nanda and haryanka Dynasty king or rulers were Jainism followers 😊

[@paulomi9351]

​@@SouravChattopadhyay-Rarhi Indian sub continent region muslims especially in the Pakistan and Afghanistan region are converted jaat, Gujjar, rajput, lohana ( community descendants of raghukul or raghuvanshi or suryavanshi or solar Dynasty from lord Rams lineage) , Khatri ( all Sikh gurus were Khatri themselves) , and even saraswat Brahmins with surname bhatt, butt, dar, dhar etc What Pakistanis say about their pre-islamic ancestry: All those whose title is Sheikh are Arabs: The fact is that all Sheiks are either converted from Kashmiri Pundits or from Khatris like Saigols. All those with title of Mirza are descendants of Mughals: This is only partly true, as most of the Rajput converts and even non converts were given the title of Mirza like Mirza Raja Jai Singh. All those with the titles of Saiyyad are true descendants of Mohammad: This is mostly fake. People took this title to extract respect from common folk. Although there are some true Saiyyads , The first Saiyyad in Sindh married local Sindhi Hindu girls(As per Kitab ul Hind by Al Beruni) thus even the true Saiyyads have local Hindu blood from mother side. All those with the title of Awans are Arabs: While the first census of India was being carried out in 1870, the british officers find it very difficult to distinguish Awans from Hindu Rajputs as their customs were astonishingly similar to Hindu Rajputs. The current effort on the part of Awans to align with Arabs is for the same purpose as elicited at point 3. Dilip Kumar(Yusuf Khan) the film actor is Awan. All Arains are also Arabs: Till Jia ul Haq usurped the throne of Pakistan, Arains were comfortable with their Hindu ancestry. They were and are vegetable growers and gardeners. With Jia’s elevation, Arains suddenly became Arab for obvious reasons. All with the title of Janjua are Arabs: In Suleman mountain, coins of Maldev Janjua has been discovered. This is a matter of Shame for Janjuas rather than pride as they have framed themselves up as Arabs. All with the title of Wattu are Arabs: They are infact Rajputs but prefer to call themselves as descendant of Arabs but shy away at the proposal of DNA test. Khokhars: Khokhars call themselves descendents of Arabs but actually they are related to Jats, Hindu Khokhars created havoc in the Army of Mahmud Ghajnavi when Jaipal attacked Ghajni to take it back in around 980-990 AD. Hindu Khokhars killed Shahabuddin Ghori on the right bank of Indus near Attock in 1203 AD. There are still some Hindu Khokhars in India. All with the title of Khan/ Pathan are actually Pakhtun and all Pakhtuns are Afghans and all Afghans are the lost tribes of Bani Afghana of Israel: The theory was promulgated in the medieval era but is refuted by DNA test. Some Pathan as told in the beginning are recent converts from Rajputs. Afghans have some Tadjik elements also. Pashto is an Indo-Iranic language and is not related to semitic language. According to Farishta, Afghans including Pakhtuns were Hindus and Pagans before their conversion to Islam. Muhammad Ghorí’s great grandfather Shansban was Buddhist. Similarly Tigin Shahis were turks and were Buddhists before converting to Islam. Khan is the title of adopted by any noble Hindu convert to Islam , some times even barbers also used this title after conversion. However every Khan wants to identify with Pakhtuns. All Ansaris are those Madinites who helped Muhammad in Madina: Ansaris in the Indian subcontinent are converts from weaver community of Hindus. They took this title as a semblance of respectability. They are still in the job of stitching, weaving and tailoring. All Quraishis are those Quraishi clan to which Muhammad himself belong to: Qureshis in India are converts from Hindu Butchers or Kasabs. They took this title for the same reason of respectability , It was a clan decision to convert and clan decision to take this title. However there are Jats , Rajputs, Gurjars , Khatris, Kashmiri Pundits and Ahirs in Pakistan who acknowledge their Hindu Past. They proudly keep their titles as Bajwa, Randhawa, Johia, Tomar, Deol, Rathore, Chauhan, Minhas, Salaria, Salathia, Shan, Rana, Raja, Satti, Bhutto, Lohani, Bhatti, Jadoun, Sumra, Samma, Sasan, Ghil, Maan, Gujjar, Katariya, Khatana, Kapur, Kohli, Sethi, Saigol, Bahal, Kakar, Khatri, Bhat, Rao, Rangher. Some Pakhtuns’ title like Sarwani, Shahbani, Shahukhel, Kakar,Khosa, Bamzai, Karzai, Sadozai, Barakzai, Mahmand, Suri, Khattak, Afridi, Shermankhel, Mahsud, Lodi have in themselves definite Hindu and even Greek connotations. Greek historians Plini, Strabo and Sanskrit Grammarian Panini has thrown some light on the people living in what is now Khaibar Pakhtunkhwah. Also with little linguistic retrospection above tribes might be previously known as Suryavanshi, Shahvanshi, Shahkul, Kakar, Khosa, Vam, Kar, Sat, Varak or Virk, Mahamand(Or great Mand: Mand was a Shaka tribe), Sri, Shatak, Aparitai (Greek tribe), Srimankul, Mahashudra(Shudra was not a non Aryan tribe, rather Alexendar fought with Kshudraks a warrior tribe, Sud is still the title of Khatris of Punjab who are upper caste), Lydoi(A Greek tribe). Thus we can infer that these tribes originated from Hindu or Greek ancestors even the Yusufzais call themselves as Isap in their own gatherings, this Isap is the same as Aspesians who under their queen Kripi gave brilliant resistance to Macedonians under Alexendar the great in Massaga(some where near Peshawar) sometime in 327BC. Kripi in Greek sources is mentioned as Kleophis. Kalash kafir people of the Chitral and Hunza still worship Mahadev and Yimraj and follow a primitive Vedic religion. Only 2000 left now as rest are converted by abduction of girls and forcibly conversion of men. They were masters of a province of Kafiristan in north east Afghanistan till 1896. In brief, some 20% of Pakistanis are estimated to be from Turkish/Afghan/Mughal/Arab origins and rest 80% of purely indigenous. Among these 80% , mostly they were Hindus or a mix of Hindus, Buddhists, Animists and Zoroastrians at the same time. Even in the remaining 20% there is substantial proportion of Hindu blood from mother side as

[@Dr.KrishnaShrivastav-vd1hp]

Brahmins sanyaasi were the reason for his army’s demoralisation because after defeating & compromise with the local kings , sanyasis kept encouraging people to fight back again and destroy Greek occupation, there were brutal revolts started in hundreds of different places in newly acquired kingdoms , his army got frightened due to continuous deadly attacks from the local villagers. Alexender ordered to kill all Brahmins householders and sanyasis first as soon entering into Indian towns and villages. Everybody knows the famous Dandi swami I.e dandimis & Alexender incident after that young Macedonian invader realise that how miserable is his life ,even after winning so many battles. Greeks iranian hated Brahmins so much that they used to capture and burn them alive soon entering into villages and towns. Some of them stayed back here and mixed with local population, Hindu people never accepted them so they got converted to Buddhism and then to Islam & Sikhism but the inate hate for Brahmins still exists.

[@gatul6305]

Please spare us. Do a research. There is no factual evidence on existence of Alexander. Plutarch whom u quote was not a historian. And he existed 300 years after Alexander was supposed to have come to India. Prove me wrong...but please don't bring this myth and stories of Alexander battles which don't have an iota of evidence..not even one.. check time lines of all authors who have written about him...I ll elonrate further if u reply

[@Progamermove_2003]

Persian empire was literally destroyed by Alexander. Surely they have no reason to lie about it? Why don't you do some research?

[@ayushkumarsingh3029]

Check his inscription in Eqypt and Anatolia Plus hundreds of coins left by him

[@gatul6305]

Coins do not denote existence of a person. I ll show u coins of Indra and many gods....no inscription exists which happened in his life time..... Please understand let's talk with evidence ...... Clear evidence of existence..just 1

[@ayushkumarsingh3029]

@@gatul6305 Does inscription indicates

[@ayushkumarsingh3029]

@@gatul6305 what evidence do we have that a king called chandragupta maurya exists?? Literary sources written after 600 years to some sources 1500 years after his death No coin or inscription is there of him

[@Barlas511]

He returned because he saw your face and bad English 😅

[@narutouzumaki2157]

Tum jahilo se yahi umeed thi

[@ishaanrohmetra3447]

@@narutouzumaki2157 anpado se kya umeed rkhega 😂😂😂😂😂bhai tu

[@anuragpandey5879]

If You are Indian then certainly ,the colonial hangover passed by your forefathers is visible,if you are from any western country,then have sipp of wine & rub your nose in front Post colonial countries who are starting to rule your institutions

[@ishaanrohmetra3447]

@@anuragpandey5879 he is a muslim open his profile name faisal

[@Playerone1287]

I don't think language can be seen