THE REAL SCIENCE BEHIND WRESTLING'S DOMINANCE OF BRAZILIAN JIU-JITSU

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There is no need to give the names of the Wrestlers who have had major success against the best of BRAZILIAN JIU-JITSU. The proof and evidence is solid and there for all to see. To be clear: THE TECHNIQUES AND METHODS DESCRIBED IN THIS VIDEO CAN BE USED BY BJJ PRACTITIONERS. THE ISSUE IS THAT THE BJJ COMMUNITY IS TOO CULT LIKE TO IMPLEMENT TRAINING METHODS AND AN APPROACH THAT WOULD MAKE IT MORE EFFECTIVE RATHER THAN THE "TORTURE" IT IS TO WATCH FOR WRESTLERS LIKE MYSELF.

[@ernielarkin4793]

It seems hard for BJJ guys to understand what high-school wrestlers go through, and the intensity at which we trained and competed. Guys who join wrestling young understand that there is no team to carry you. All responsibility is yours. Great video. Wrestling six or eight guys for varsity tends to get dangerous, it becomes so fast.

[@skepsislamica]

Since watching your videos I started training in wrestling at a local academy and it feels like my BJJ game has improved tremendously.

[@TheUmmahFightCamp]

@nightwolf6x If wrestling does not help your bjj, you are nit using it! EVERY no-gi bbj artist looks, to some degree, wrestling.

[@TheUmmahFightCamp]

@nightwolf6x The best thing for you and everyone else to do is LOOK at freakin fights! Stop buying DVDS and DOWNLOADS and SEE! Simple. Ground and pound is WRESTLING and BLOWS. Add some basic BJJ subs and you have a complete game. Very easy.

[@anon2034]

@@TheUmmahFightCamp I agree! However what do you think of kicks and knees?

[@mmaking8664]

This is pure gold. I experienced this myself. When i trained in BJJ I was getting dominated by wrestlers who had strong top games. Why? I was too worried about whether I was doing it "right" rather than going for the kill. As soon as I started learning about Billy Robinson and catch ss catch van wrestling i researched it and learned the old school techniques. Then i would dominate the wrestlers because then my grappling philosophy was just to "catch" a limb and then push the limb past its lever. Catch wrestling also promoted vicious riding which BJJ does not. BJJ os only goof for the guard game and when all your options are exhausted and you find yourself on your back then the guard game can come in handy

[@mr.blackman3312]

This is why i always say if you are a wrestler who can box (randy corture, daniel cormier, caine valesquez) then you can become a champion.

[@user-dz4ty5tj7q]

Fedor said a beginner should learn boxing and wrestling first

[@dimbrightman]

Cormier cannot box

[@patricktinsmith8533]

@@user-dz4ty5tj7q are you living in Greenfield near Holywell by any chance? I lived in Holywell when I was younger.

[@PiffFighting]

@@dimbrightman yeah he can mixed in with his wrestling and work in the clinch and know you can’t become champion with just wrestling and boxing but you can become champion without using bjj and having striking and being able to defend takedowns like Izzy or come pretty close like Gaethe

[@cameronyeezy85]

Great assessment and perspective in the way you break down each art. I wrestled growing up for 10 years and now watch a little bjj but I agree it’s a very slow pace compared to wrestling or judo

[@TheUmmahFightCamp]

Well said!

[@nikogdatakogo]

That corresponds so much with my own experience. I can't train bjj often (job, 2 kids) so I did not get lots of taps. First I was concerned about techniques and survival. I managed to reduce the amount of my losses, but still I was more about defending better dudes. Then I figured out 1) if I cannot get more sessions to get more technical, I need to make my basica moves stronger - so I started weightlifting 2) I started grappling with a goal - catch a kneebar (love kneebars). Now I was out of BJJ for 6 months (3 months of them - benchpressing, got stronger). Showed up at a gym. cought blue belt (also judo guy with + 25 kg over me) with a kneebar two times.

[@nikogdatakogo]

but I guess here in Russia there is no myth that BJJ is an ultimate grappling art. Rarely there are pure bjj-players. Rarely people start bjj with no base (sambo, judo, wrestling). I never experienced "flow rolling". Guys in here usually go for a kill, love pressure game.

[@octaviovazquez543]

Man this explanation would have been good back in high school. Just turned 21, and there's not many places I can wrestle near ne, so I joined a bjj gym. I like it alot, but I'm definitely gonna focus on the what more often

[@ddg-fi5bp]

This seems like encouraging white belt spaz lol

[@codyjwoods]

This is pure genius in terms of objective over technique. I was better at takedowns before taking bjj. They really over stress on how. It ruined my mentality.

[@bobbyfischer604]

That point system benefits explanation was spot on just like the template part. Better to master a couple moves in an organic way and act fast than stop to think about the next "step" and lose your shirt.

[@morenoh149]

This is why it’s good for self defense as well. You can use a self defense choreography in real life. Real life is messy and it’s better to be responsive to surprises in your feet.

[@rijadhadzic3396]

Salam aleykum ahk, love from a Bosnian brother. Theres a lot of people giving out advice, majority dont know what theyre talking about though. This is my first video I saw of you and I came in skeptical, because of all the other people giving advice who dont know about a thang. But akh, you straight up put me on game here. I'm a muay thai guy and I've always been told my technique is crap, but i have the strongest kicks out of anyone they know. And I just heard your advice and it finally clicked for me. I will be taking this knowledge to all other aspects of my game. Salute and salam aleyk

[@aliasunknown6972]

I enjoyed this video and the video regarding the Gracie's developing their style from Catch wrestling. I knew this years ago and nobody believed me, Well done!

[@johnrambo4259]

. They may be Merritt to that but mainly it was taken from newaza judo bjj is pretty much a carbon copy of newaza

[@icetea4me]

Keep up the great work. I've been watching your videos for many years.

[@JayJay-tw3bd]

your videos are the truth all my game has impoved since watching your videos keep up the great work. your the one few who speak true on all the mma topics.

[@Ep1cPvP]

7:41 1000% this, that was a huge mental block for me in wrestling, being hyper conscious about the technique

[@jrockel]

Great and very informative video, thanks bruh! Peace!

[@alanp9416]

Ummah, I just wanted to thank you. I’m not sure if you see these comments but this video and a few others really improved my grappling. A bit of background, I’m a purple belt in bjj and have found much of what you say is correct. I recently was in a class playing a tactical chess game with other purples and brown belts and did relatively well. Then came a SMALLER yet very aggressive paced wrestler/blue belt and he beat me up…. You were spot on as to why, it wasn’t his technique, it was his aggression and pace. I realized I way overthink in my rolls technically. After seeing this the next class I came with a different mentality, dialed down the technical thinking and dialed up the pace, my rolls were much improved. You truly know your stuff 🙏

[@isaiahcrosson8454]

I love your wrestling and BJJ videos nothing but the truth brother! keep it coming

[@mcornielle]

I agree (not that it's relevant)on how wrestling is the best compliment for any grappler, the discipline, the rhythm and so on. That being said I think the snail rhythm you refer to is mainly gi (and not every blackbelt) BJJ its safer i would say but also wrestling gets you ready for situations in which you would usually get hurt. BJJ it's evolving and this is in part due to BJJ practitioners incorporating wrestling to their game. This was a great analysis, thank you

[@aikidoisthebombyeah]

i believe one of the biggest problems with sport jiujitsu scoring is this idea of "pulling guard." if you pull guard, then the other person should receive an advantage or 2 points.

[@skykekona-souza1927]

Disagree. I’ve wrestled all the way up into college and have since switched to Jiu Jitsu. You don’t give up points for choosing bottom in wrestling and you don’t get any points for escaping in bjj. So I don’t think you should be penalized for pulling guard.

[@aikidoisthebombyeah]

@@skykekona-souza1927 but you receive points for sweeping your opponent, and making him go to the bottom position while you transition to the top position, clearly expressing the idea that the top position is somehow more advantageous. Otherwise, why give points to it? It makes no sense to me that if you voluntarily go to the bottom position you don't get penalized, but if someone forces you there, you get penalized. People pull guard and don't get penalized just so they can sweep their opponent and receive 2 points for being on top? makes no sense bruh.

[@franciscaamano3519]

I use to be a judo competitor and this is the best explanation regarding on the concept of sensitivity and building instincts and the pace of a match. He is on point and clear.

[@jw4111]

Great video! Very detailed description as to why wrestling is best for grappling.

[@TheUmmahFightCamp]

JW: See how hurt the BJJ fanatic is? They cant take it. I think BJJ has good points, but these people think it invented fighting and they are mental.

[@Kaledrone]

@@TheUmmahFightCamp Some people act like grappling didn't exist before the Gracies. The Ancient Greeks used a lot of the joint locks and takedowns found in bjj in pankration around 2000 years ago. Grappling has always been around and is a solid part of human history. To say that some Brazilian family invented it in the 20th century is indeed pretty mental.

[@PauloJonatasSilveira]

@@Kaledrone how you Lerned With a teacher With 2.000 years old? Time machine? Romans create a concret tecquinique Waterprove And "time resistent" 2.000 years ago.... But today nonody Know how it is make... If today, someone (A guy) create a technique to make it, how create the technique used today, (A guy) or Romans? The style and techniques (method) used today is gracie roots

[@Kaledrone]

@@PauloJonatasSilveira English probably isn't your first language, and you probably suck real bad at it. Because I said absolutely something else and you took it the wrong way and wasted your time writing an entire bs paragraph, people like you are annoying at best. Of course I didn't fucking learn from a 2000 year old teacher, jesus. You people should first learn some English before trying to argue with people on the internet. All I said was that grappling has always existed and those Brazilians you worship didn't invent it, I don't need to use your fucking time machine and go back two thousand years to understand this, all I need is a little bit of something known as "common fucking sense", something you BJJ fanatics surely lack. And I am also sure that you are going to take everything I said here out of context, put your own words in my mouth and begin your own bs argument if you do reply, that's what ya'll tend to fucking do anyways.

[@honeybadgersroninmmanz7312]

I love your channel, , I've teared so much

[@anthonyallen3328]

Hey bro I remember this video and its darn good. Let me ask you did you have a video speaking why and the heck does it take BJJ people 10 years to be a black belt that's rediculs. You know I'm from Baltimore and Lloyd Ervin is inPJ county Maryland and he said that it doesn't take 10 years. So do you have a video breaking down how much to learn in BJJ that equals to a black belt ?

[@codyjwoods]

A lot of purple belts actually know the curriculum for the most alert. Maybe even some great blue belts. The issue is that you have to go through the curriculum over and over again to grow. It’s a particularly interesting art in the fact that it’s not about information being revealed over time but mastered overtime. It’s not uncommon to be able to take private lessons from a purple belt coach.

[@lsporter88]

Very rational explanation. I think you're accurate.

[@thelinealchamp9027]

Would this fall under the realm of submission over position like you have in catch wrestling or or position over submission in Jiu-Jitsu I love when you start talking about technical aspects of combat it's almost like you're the John Madden of combat with the telestrator👏

[@TheUmmahFightCamp]

the Lineal Champ: Positions AND Submissions are locked in quicker the faster you can transition from one position to another.

[@jcnopal1740]

I wish there was a wrestling academy in my town

[@devriestown]

Hi mate love your channel .

[@ppkrex]

BJJ uses tighter fitting & smoother Gi that makes it harder to secure grips on the Gi while moving, which makes it harder to do Gi based throws. This has been my experience, so wrestling grips are more appropriate in that match. Also wrestling has better training methods.

[@hasanc1526]

Until the jiu jitsu guy starts holding onto your gi to attach himself to you. Btw that's how helio gracie developed his addition to jiu jitsu. Flow rolling. The point of flow rolling is to increase one's ability to attach them selves to an opponent to just go with them wherever they go.

[@TheUmmahFightCamp]

@@hasanc1526 : That all sounds good, but it still gets its ass beat by wrestling so the point is to stop the flow rolling. It is far too passive and looks ridiculous at the black belt level.

[@lancebello3178]

Sayf, you’re very knowledgeable regarding Combatives in general. However regarding this deep dive into jiujitsu, you’re not there yet. I would recommend taking 200 classes in the gi at Marcelo’s school, Renzo’s school, or Murilo’s school. It’ll give you a much better understanding of the art and enable you to have a more comprehensive view. Also, the primary reason why wrestlers are so successful is because by the time they reach the UFC, all former wrestlers have accumulated thousands of hours of nogi jiujitsu training. That exposure to the principles of jiujitsu, combined with their wrestling base is what is key. If you took a D1 wrestler and facilitated an mma fight with a same weight, same age champion level black belt, the wrestler would likely get finished.

[@pallyali786]

Assalam Alaikum bro. Good content mashallah. Don't worry about the negative comments. Some bjj guys are deluded. Wrestling is definitely the superior grappling art. However I think one should train both Wrestling or Judo with Jui Jitsu.

[@TheUmmahFightCamp]

pallyali: Wa Alaikum Musalaam Ahki: I do not really WORRY about the comments. I know that I am right. 50 years of training in 5 martial arts. How many people can say that? I like to go on the attack really lol. I am not a passive person, so going on the attack is my nature at this point. I will always tell it as it is. Thank you for your concern though, my brother. Please stay in touch, S

[@melanodawido]

I would love to train with this man this man knows what he's talking about no nonsense at all his fighting IQ is really high

[@bereal6820]

Thank you brother very good information

[@Shoegazebasedgenre0.]

this is why i always confused why wrestling was very underappreciated and always being in obscurity while bjj, judo, and any martial arts are surplusing in popularity. never realized how important western wrestling are for real life combat and even fitness

[@TheChaoslusterhall]

Makes a lot of sense,very wise

[@sekaniyahimba354]

would be great to see a video of you training students in wrestling

[@micahmccormick9532]

In my experience, wrestling and more specifically catch wrestling is the dominant grappling art even in no-gi BJJ. Since I've begun applying wrestling principles, such as focusing on getting my opponent to the ground and being in top position once i get them there, and using speed and surprise when possible and aggressively grinding my opponent down from top when not possible, I've had much more success especially against guard-centric BJJ players at my gym.

[@TheWeaponx9]

I did pro wrestling & they trained us in the catch style wrestling before we learned the t.v. moves & was able to survive & tap out a 6 month BJJ practitioner. I heard him say I fight dirty& the coach told him I’m using catch wrestling holds

[@rayraw1576]

Preach brother

[@thelinealchamp9027]

Brother I am so honored that you shouted me out and put me in KZbin infamy lore from the best to ever do it on KZbin LOL. Always informative I would like to correspond with you via email or whatever if all possible with you I would love to have a conversation with you if you so chose to

[@TheUmmahFightCamp]

the Lineal Champ: Of course you can email me! NP. Just give me 48 to get back to you. I like it when people feel comfortable enough to contact me. To be honest, many times I think that is best.

[@thelinealchamp9027]

@@TheUmmahFightCamp wonderful what is your email address I don't know if you want to give it out on here I don't really know if you have a public forum email or whatever

[@TheUmmahFightCamp]

@@thelinealchamp9027 :[e-mail]

[@thelinealchamp9027]

@@TheUmmahFightCamp [e-mail]

[@Aqhi007]

Jazakhallah khair

[@Crowwtf]

You remind me of denzel in the equalizer 2 lol

[@Oktanesevensun]

Yeah he does

[@teogriffin9600]

You the truth ockie i just started catch wrestling but a 2 stripe white belt since 2019

[@Nick-ut2zh]

You’re the truth bro

[@leorosa]

Wait why would you single then head outside? Isn't inside more dominant ?

[@amazingGrace108]

Man, this us genius observation. Your Chanel is gold. Thank you and God bless you brother.

[@bikingwithstanley2534]

When I grapple back in the days with no GI in grappling tournament it was in fast pace. Some people will pull a gulitine choke hold, triangle, and arm bar quick. Wrestling is the dominant style in mma. A person with a wrestling background has a big chance of winning in mma match.

[@808frontline]

I adore the wrestling method of more conceptual Vs technical Wrestling has great techniques but it’s more of a guideline Where as Jiujitsu is strict on this way or the highway

[@808frontline]

My coach would say grab that leg and 40 yard dash wether your on your feet or on your knees just “make it happen” Drive, drive, drive then suddenly pitch an angle and hit a pin then shoot for advantageous position then submit

[@caiodosanjos157]

What about Judo, Aikido and Hapkido?

[@alexloomis2398]

I'm no fighter. But i despise bullshit. You're doing good work Sir. Keep it up.

[@jeffbakerbjj4534]

As a base, maybe he’s right. However in the early UFC’s in style vs style match’s, BJJ dominated wrestling; because wrestling knew nothing about submissions.

[@airpods4]

thanks

[@alexloomis2398]

To quote someone else on KZbin, " yes. The WWE isn't real. But neither is BJJ."

[@kanyesouth2687]

You made my day

[@miketurley3296]

Still subscribed. Smart Fight . Fist Physics.

[@fancyAlex1993]

Yes this is spot on.

[@Maxmarvelus]

, does khabib exist yes ,yes he does

[@smiley32s]

I wish that I wrestled in school

[@tarmanjrakathegooch]

Let me subscribe real quick

[@anthonyallen3328]

Very interesting. Kit Dale said he gotten his BJJ black belt in 3 years and I always wondered why it takes 10 years to be a black belt. I'm never interested in pure BJJ I train in MMA grappling its way better its combat that's what I like.

[@dapsouza]

When you say “ mixed martial arts”, does that same apply to a street fight? Sport BJJ is very different than the original self defense Gracie jiu-jítsu , as you pointed out in the past.

[@riversdarrell2000]

Grappling is grappling....whether its,bjj,freestyle,greco roman,Chinese, shooto,sambo,judo,mongolian, Icelandic, Senegalese,sambo,indian,or whatever Grappling style,if you research and train they all start to look the same,the training methods,and rules may differ,but takedowns,throws pins, and chokes are used by all Grappling systems,its not the style,but the individual,if a person is smart,they will cross train,and become more versatile,the same way a boxer mar train in muay thai,the more knowledge you have the better you will become

[@tatuco8]

One word.... khabib

[@adilbundhoo3079]

Mr Sayf Carman, Can you please tell me why I lose my balance when I get punched while I spar even though the one punching is smaller and shorter, much smaller and shorter...

[@hasanc1526]

It's because you're flinching. When he hits you you're closing your eyes and moving your head back.

[@adilbundhoo3079]

@@hasanc1526 hey thanks, appreciate it

[@TheUmmahFightCamp]

@@adilbundhoo3079 : It can be several reasons for you losing your balance. It could be how your feet are placed. They should be about shoulder width apart and your head should be above your groin and not beyond your knees in any direction. Take a mental record of the punch that most causes it. It will not be every punch. If it is a hook it will not be because you are pulling your head back.

[@KWillo]

As a former high school and amatuer wrestler, I love this.BJJ has people really brainwashed.Most of these BJJ schools think wrestling is just a "tackle" or double leg takedown.

[@mr.xavierrises]

Wrestling is far more complicated than people give it. Simple but effective just like boxing.

[@KWillo]

@@mr.xavierrises exactly.That's literally the same thing I've been saying for years.

[@mr.xavierrises]

@@KWillo I think role are more in love with the mustique surrounding bjj than whether it is actually effective. I wouldnt mind training in it but I'm not forking over that kind of money. If catch wrestling would of held its popularity bjj would not be this popular.

[@KWillo]

@@mr.xavierrises Blame the pro MMA organization commentators, mainly the UFC, for that.They, including Joe Rogan, almost always give BJJ too much credit for any kind of grappling in MMA.

[@hasanc1526]

@@mr.xavierrises lol catch lost it's popularity for a reason. It was worked for more than 100 years. The shooto guy were pretty much all shit, they got dominated by BJJ. I'm not saying bjj is better than catch but there are reasons why catch lost it's popularity. It became so unpopular that brazilian catch wrestlers started calling them selves luta livre to distance themselves from catch

[@wingoreviewsboxingandmma3667]

It sounds like the difference between true Okinawan Karate and Japanese Karate

[@smiley32s]

Facts

[@Per12189]

Wrestling is a method of taking people to the ground. BJJ is a method of submitting people once taken to the ground. Two different and complementary ends. What's the point of.this?

[@RandelOland901-ATT]

Keep breaking the delusions of BJJ.

[@808frontline]

As far as grappling arts with no striking Jiujitsu beats wrestling tho and I am a wrestling enthusiast. I say it all the time wrestlers got the best slams, takedowns and pins Judo got the best sweeps, throws and side control Jiujitsu got the best submissions and escapes from bad positions. In an all submission bout Jiujitsu submits both wrestling and judo 8/10 times. It’s proven To set the record straight I was rooting for sakuraba Vs royler gracie when they fought in pride and Sakuraba destroyed royler as if he never trained a day in his life.

[@DjuanEastman]

“Technic is a general rule to follow.” Words that every fighter should tattoo on themselves.

[@Zero-Retainer]

The problem is that the people who are opposing what you are saying don't have experience from the street. In New York City in the streets, you couldn't even clinch in some neighborhoods. And if you were on the ground, in your back, you were finished. Period.

[@SandBorrito]

Its dominant because it practices dominance as martial form

[@TheUmmahFightCamp]

Most martial arts practice dominance. None of them practice for the purpose of getting their ass beat. It is the method that counts. Whether or not the method of training matches the stated goal.

[@celsonava9708]

whats yur reaction to spence garcia

[@bradbolanger4646]

My favorite is Eddie bravo pulling guard from standing up. It only works against people that aren't wearing timberlands or doc martens

[@quinlanvos7984]

whats wrong with wearing timberlands or doc martens?

[@thelinealchamp9027]

What's your cash app name brother you giving away too much information I need to pay you

[@TheUmmahFightCamp]

the Lineal Champ: That is very kind of you and everyone tells me that I give too much free info. To that I say 2 things: 1) People can talk that "I do not see color" if they want (they would have to be blind to not to really lol), but I am black dude! If I kicked pads and did splits like Joe Rogan, people would never call me an "Icon". I HAVE to DEMONSTRATE and be ABOVE the norm. 2) I have given out much info, but I have a physical component of what I lecture on. My self-defense curriculum is 10 stages! I have 5 levels of Greco! ALL of it will be produced to DVD in the near future. GW. In other words, people have actually only learned about 10% of what I do and teach.

[@paologarrido7409]

@@TheUmmahFightCamp I would want to learn wrestling, here in the Philippines wrestling is almost non existent. top content always. Be healthy Uncle Sayf

[@skunk12]

Why are comments disabled on certain videos? Please dont shut down conversation.

[@TheUmmahFightCamp]

skunk12: This is the reason some comments are disabled: I HAVE SEEN OTHER CHANNELS OF INFERIOR CONTENT AND THE INSULTS I HAVE TO DEAL WITH ARE NEVER HURLED AT THEM. MANY OF THOSE CHANNELS ARE THOSE OF WHITES WHO ARE TREATED WITH FAR MORE RESPECT THAN I AND ARE FAR LESS LEGITIMATE. I PERSONALLY WILL NOT DEAL WITH THAT BS. ALSO, MANY PEOPLE DO NOT RESPOND OR DO NOT ALLOW COMMENTS. I DO BOTH! UNTIL PEOPLE START TO USE THEIR MIND UP TO ITS POTENTIAL, SOME COMMENTS WILL BE DISABLED.

[@skunk12]

@@TheUmmahFightCamp i respect your point of view. You shouldnt have to put up with that BS considering that you are so generously providing a free service and valuable knowledge that you have been compiling for decades. However, do you think that empty insults and bad ideas are ever going to convince other people? I would argue that your encouragement of audience members to try techniques for themselves is a very strong point. Truth can withstand any scrutiny. Thank you for taking the time to respond as well as posting content.

[@TheUmmahFightCamp]

@@skunk12 : To be honest, I am a combative person who has no issue with attacking those who attack me. I have no problem with it at all. I have no issue with calling an ass hole an ass hole. I think too many black people hear that, "do you think your cursing at someone solves the problem?" meanwhile some dirty racist beast is insulting the black guy. lol. No sir, that is not for me. The best way to keep some one from stabbing you is to show your knife (or gun). I believe in that and will never back down from it. I am NOT a passive person. Not in the least. Lastly, Truth can withstand scrutiny? I welcome "scrutiny", but call me an ass hole, I will respond in kind. I am only kept in check by my faith. I am a man who stomped a man unconscious for spitting in my path. I am not a joke and had I not been a Muslim many who have insulted me would have paid for it. Hopefully you understand now.

[@TheUmmahFightCamp]

@@LordBatRastard : I also want to say that I am a former communist and most of my friends were white when I was a member. The major thing though, is THEY did not care much for white Americans either lol. As you travel, you will see that whites in other nations have pockets of primitive bigots, but they are NOT the norm. Only in the US is it the norm and okay to be mentally ill in the sense of racism.

[@TheUmmahFightCamp]

@@LordBatRastard : One the issue of white racist groups exiting more on paper, that idea is what they want. Think it is not "that bad" and another Oklahoma happens. That is the plan. No sir, they are there and the FBI and DOJ know it. As for whites not attacking blacks, that too is up, but personally, I think a good sized black dude puts up too much of a fight for the racist lol. I see many when I go to a mall I shop at: Swastikas and the whole nine. They do not do anything because I will slice, dice and shoot without guilt and I LOOK the part. To think they do not remain or their presence should not be a concern for fair thinking people is a big mistake.

[@eclipsewrecker]

Wrestling is the dominate ‘youth training’ in mixed martial arts.

[@abramlittle7102]

talk abt spence garcia fight next please

[@TheUmmahFightCamp]

Abram Little: It is being posted now. It will NOT be what you think lol.

[@kanyesouth2687]

Bjj people likes to roll slow even in tournaments . A joke

[@donniehallaman7685]

Well in jiu-jitsu energy conservation is a big deal thats why people roll slow. I find that the faster I go sometimes the more I get caught. Some people are just all about slow tight pressure type rolling.

[@kanyesouth2687]

@@donniehallaman7685 So bjj people like it slow LOL No wonder GSP manhandled Nick Diaz and BJ Penn with wrestling.

[@donniehallaman7685]

@@kanyesouth2687 lol ,when you put it that way I got nothing haha

[@aikidoisthebombyeah]

what if you are always operating under the assumption that your opponent is bigger, stronger, and heavier than you? you have no choice but to rely on your technique. i see ur point about "getting it done" but would you say that it applies to wrestling because of weight classes. there is this culture or tradition in jiujitsu where jiujitsu player ways assumes that opponent is much stronger, so must rely on technique. but with weight classes and sport training i see and agree wiyh your point.

[@TheUmmahFightCamp]

Much of the myth of BJJ stems from the victories of SOME Gracies. If a person is much bigger and stronger BJJ still should not be counted on. The best case in something like that is a weapon and if one does not have that, a vicious attack to the eyes. Too many people NEED to believe the glamour of fighting that the gracies advertised. No weapon! Only one person! That is not real all of the time in the street.

[@aikidoisthebombyeah]

@@TheUmmahFightCamp i would argue that wrestling, and another other martial arts as well, have the same disadvantages when confronted with weapons and multiple opponents. it's no different than wrestling. now having said that, i would also admit that wrestlers are normally better conditioned and more athletic on average than jiujitsu athletes, but that is because of the nature of the sport of wrestling and not because wrestling is inherently better than jiujitsu. that's ok, we can agree to disagree, i respect where you're coming from, but i respectfully disagree. i think jiujitsu and wrestling are perfect compliments to each other. there are many things jiujitsu players can learn from wrestlers, and vice versa.

[@TheUmmahFightCamp]

@@aikidoisthebombyeah LOL! Sure we can disagree, but the evidence cannot be denied. Wrestling dominates BJJ the great majority of the time. In fact the head to head is not even close. The list of ALL TIME GREATS that are first and foremost wrestlers speaks volumes of its superiority over BJJ. The facts are stunning. I can give 20 off the top of my head! Not even close. Most of the top 10 all time are wrestlers. Even those that BJJ claims like Tony Ferguson are wrestlers at heart and started in it.

[@aikidoisthebombyeah]

@@TheUmmahFightCamp well i think its about how you interpret the evidence, and the criteria you use for interpreting evidence. in any case, you are doing great work and i have much respect for you and enjoy your videos. peace!

[@YAAWYT]

@@aikidoisthebombyeah LOL! I always loved critical thinking in college and still apply it today. Rational comes with certain skills and one is to know that emotions are not tools that define reality. Anyone can look at my videos and get REAL unbiased knowledge. It is not depended on what someone uses for evidence. It depends on if someone knows WHAT is being done. In other words you have to know WHEN ONE ART IS BEING DONE ANOTHER IS NOT. One of the only pure BJJ fighters was Damain Maia. Do you know how many takedowns BJJ has? I do lol. About 3! Virtually ALL the takedowns you see in MMA are FREESTYLE or GRECO. FACTS, not opinion. Ask someone who knows. Look at the start of the careers on ALL the best fighters. What are they doing? If you know than you see they are using wrestling ot wear out the man or woman until they can use a submission. You can believe what you want my friend, but when what you see is not what you accept......The best example is GSP. even Joe rogan said his WRESTLING makes him special. Even though he has a black belt in BJJ. I advise people to stop falling for the marketing of BJJ and get real. Learn basic submissions and WRESTLE. Peace!!!

[@frankhenley5782]

That’s great but for those of us in our Forties that didn’t wrestle in school where do we go to learn it ??? I Boxed in the Amateurs from the time I was 10 years old until I was 25 years old . Live Tennessee. Only BJJ schools here . Where do Adults in there Forties now go to learn Wrestling ???

[@TheUmmahFightCamp]

Get a few good dvds. some are good. Implement a move at a time on the mat without sharing it with your rolling partners.

[@Taekwon-Brando]

Damn man, mad because you got choked out or what? Geez bahahah

[@ronaldobrito3607]

I'm willing to agree that with the gi, bjj definitely lacks in the aggression department, but I have to disagree with the fact that tempo does not escalate in no gi bjj. It is much more intense and fast paced, also there are more submissions available. With the gi, the reason it is much more slow paced is due to how crucial grips are in literally every position. Also the gi is useful for cardio. I would recommend people see some no gi matches, and only do no gi bjj if you're really worried about this

[@TheUmmahFightCamp]

Ronaldo Brito: One reason NO GI is more explosive is because NO GI borrows heavily from Wrestling. Wrestlers do not generally compete in GI so the culture of training remains the same.

[@ronaldobrito3607]

@@TheUmmahFightCamp yeah thats a fair point. Besides the submissions and guards, no gi matches do look a lot like wrestling

[@TheUmmahFightCamp]

@@ronaldobrito3607 You go to the head of the class! A man who can change directions. LOL. Rare. Thank you for your viewership and please keep commenting. S. I will also be doing a video on my stance on BJJ. Much has gone misunderstood.

[@ronaldobrito3607]

@@TheUmmahFightCamp thank you! I've preferred doing no gi for a while now. Looking forward to the vid.

[@desmondburton1773]

Just started amateur wrestling to get better at catch wrestling. Because you’re not a catch wrestler if you can’t wrestle.

[@Shoegazebasedgenre0.]

im going to start wrestling even though im 25. idgaf what people say about starting late. i have powerlifting, calisthenic, and boxing experience on my belt there should be no excuse for pursuing martial arts

[@desmondburton1773]

@@Shoegazebasedgenre0. I'm 34 and I'm 1 year in. Do it!

[@user-qk3ty5bq1y]

Do you ignore Khabib on purpose when you mention examples of Wrestlers? and why?

[@zlscales3898]

The primary advantages of wrestling are 1) the focus on staying off your back/positional dominance, and 2) wrestling is a foundational sport, whereas BJJ is not. BJJ favors the lazy and unathletic, for reasons that should be obvious. In wrestling, you cannot succeed without a high level of athleticism, high work rate, and extreme internal drive.

[@quinlanvos7984]

for the reasons that should be obvious - exactly In wrestling, you cannot succeed without a high level of athleticism, high work rate, and extreme internal drive. in Bjj you can And you can even succeed against people with " a high level of athleticism, high work rate, and extreme internal drive."

[@zlscales3898]

@@quinlanvos7984 absolutely

[@bradleymorris232]

Hands down the best KZbin channel on the martial arts, but I’m having trouble understanding this one.. Standing - we’re really talking about Judo vs Wrestling (outside of flying armbars etc). No question wrestling gets to the ground faster and safer (not giving up back, position, etc) than Judo (that said, Judo can knock one out on the way down, which changes the argument somewhat). On the ground - This is where I have trouble following. I agree that the IBJJF point system is garbage (I do Gi, no Gi, and 10th planet stuff, and I’m now at a wrestling gym owned by the current bareknuckle champ). That said, American or Greco-Roman wrestling doesn’t make much sense to me on the ground compared to Jiu jitsu, with an exception of the turtle position, which Jiu jitsu always wants the RNC but wrestlers would totally dominate ground and pound and not think about a RNC. Every other position on the ground, Jiu jitsu seems to be 100x better. It seems like checkers vs chess, no disrespect to anyone - I again enjoy both. Time after time a good Jiu jitsu practitioner destroys a good wrestler - look at Jon Jones vs Cormeir for example. JJ is the Jiu jitsu vase and Cormier is the wrestling base (I know much more is involved than just that but hear me out). A good, striking-trained, BJJ gym (like Tristar/Firas for example) already knows about striking and defending AND they are more versed to leglocks, which wrestling NEVER has an answer for. A Jiu jitsu artist with the traits you list at the end (speed, etc) will destroy a wrestler with the same traits when the fight goes to the ground - that’s just my opinion.

[@bradleymorris232]

But I agree with your sentiments that Jiu jitsu trains too slow. That said, if both fighters understand intensity and heart, and have the same level of thought in their craft, would you still say that wrestling dominates Jiu jitsu?

[@TheUmmahFightCamp]

Bradley Morris: LOL! Why do you folks do this to yourself? 1) Jon Jones is FIRST and foremost a wrestler like so many are BEFORE getting into BJJ. He wrestled first. Next, Jon beating DC proves nothing since their fights were STAND UP! 2) You mentioned Firas lmao! Come on dude! You know better than to try that with me! GSP was 85% Wrestling! Everyone knows that. LOOK at his technique from take downs to riding. GSP is known as the BEST wrestler in UFC history. Lastly, I could give you 30 names of wrestlers that beat BJJ all the time. Wrestling is clearly the dominate art and pounds BJJ 80% of the time. Do your research. Please do not make me give you names of Primarily wrestlers like: 1) GSP 2) JON JONES 3) Woodley 4) Usman 5) Henry Cejudo 6) T.J Dillashaw 7) Demetrious Johnson 8) Dominik Cruz 9) Yes, TONY FERGUSON 10) Mark Munoz 11) Matt Hughes 12) DC 13) Frankie Edger 14) Romero 15) KHABIB!!! That is just off the top of my head! Listen man, if you want to keep believing that crap in spite of the facts go ahead, but in the cage BJJ is shit. Too passive.

[@TheUmmahFightCamp]

Bradley Morris: The problem is that you don't understand what MMA actually is. It is GROUND and POUND on the ground. Not BJJ! Hold the man in position and pound him into submission or stoppage! The best pins and riding techniques are from wrestling! Why, because you get points to PIN! Ground and pound is so much a part of MMA, even when a BJJ submission is used, it is AFTER wrestling has worn the opponent down.

[@bradleymorris232]

TheUmmahFightCamp first off I appreciate you responding, and respect everything you’re saying. I hear what you’re saying, but Jon Jones was doing BJJ tournaments WAY back in the day. But here’s a list of some really good BJJ UFC guys: Brian Ortega Fabrício Werdum Ronaldo Souza Tony Ferguson Charles Oliveira Demian Maia Luke Rockhold Joe Lauzon Jussier Formiga Nate Diaz Aleksei Oleinik Korean Zombie Within the last few years we’ve seen BJJ become more MMA relevant (like karate, it has definitely watered down but it’s making a come up) - the Korean zombie literally got a twister in the ring, Oleinik has what like 10 ezekiel chokes? And the Diaz Brothers breathe Jiu Jitsu. I AGREE that riding the gracies simply because they’re mainstream and “started” UFC or whatever is played out. But to say it’s not worth nothing has to be over exaggerating. I can’t just overlook what the people I listed have done in the octagon. I omitted the fact that you hit the nail on the head with what you’ve said (pace, timidity, heart, etc - it’s as if a lot of Jiu jitsu artists wanna be what we called in football ankle biters - but, it’s just too hard to turn a blind eye to it.. when I brought up Firas, it was only because I know you respect his karate perspective based on another video I saw of yours - he has video of him going against D1 wrestlers and picking off legs like it’s nothing.. even put him aside though, big names have gone against BJJ guys and lost. You know at the end of the day it comes down to who wants it more, timing, etc - I’ve literally seen dudes getting their face punched in and lock in that triangle choke and it was a wrap. On the streets and in the octagon - and I come from PG MD where grappling wasn’t respected at all. I’m just speaking from perspective and at the same time I have to make a real decision as to whether I’m going to continue BJJ in my personal career or prioritize the wrestling route, and I’m seeking your wisdom by asking all what we both said aside, if a Jiu Jitsu practitioner and a wrestler went up against each other, and they both had the same level of heart, skill, and athleticism, who do you think would win? You say wrestler, and I’ll keep that in my pocket moving forward as I’m still a young dude and don’t have nearly the experience as you.. again, appreciate your work and willingness to share it

[@bradleymorris232]

TheUmmahFightCamp and this is Jon Jones exact words: ”I think Khabib, his boxing defense isn’t the the strongest. I don’t understand why he doesn’t work a lot of jiu jitsu. If you can take down anybody, why not know how to finish them? He depends on ground and pound and he never finishes anyone with that. Khabib is a black belt wrestler. If he adds a black belt in jiu jitsu to his recipe, he’d be extremely scary.” I feel slow not knowing his wrestling background but whatever I’m just having a conversation with you. I saw him compete Jiu jitsu and assumed that was his base but you’re right. But nonetheless he still said the above

[@joekeenan6435]

Spot on regarding Rolls. Thomas Sowell wrote a great book on culture(s) called, Race and Culture (race in the old understanding of ethnicity), he identified cultural receptivity, the openness to new ideas, as a key indicator to the success some groups have Rolls was a culturally receptive person, open to new ideas. Many in his family lacked the same open mindedness to new ideas, the old BJJ is complete, and needs nothing added perspective When Rolls died BJJ suffered a big setback.

[@TheUmmahFightCamp]

Joe Keenan: Not a fan of Thomas Sowell. Many whites like him because his writing releases racism from the guilt it deserves to have and have to deal with. Amos Wilson is an intellectual as is James Baldwin. Sowell is "accepted" by those who want to believe the social ladder of America has no responsibility for the social diseases America suffers from. But, yes, Rolls had the right idea.

[@joekeenan6435]

@@TheUmmahFightCamp He does depend too much on free market economics/market forces/economic theory to address socio/political issue for my taste, but his R&C was very interesting as it addressed different cultures in different parts of the world (Japanese, Germans, Irish, for example) and how changes in behavior either revolutionized their own countries (Japanese overthrowing their culture after the Perry invasion, for example), or those they settled in (German farmer in Argentina). Very thought provoking book.

[@TheUmmahFightCamp]

@@joekeenan6435 : What Sowell leaves out is that "behavior" was also the willingness to kick ass of other nations. Japan attacked the US! The Irish were no better than terrorists! Germany almost took over Europe! Now Thomas leaves those things out as though pulling up the pants of black boys will make things better. I believe thinking like those people in ALL of there thoughts may be the way, but most white folks would not want that lol.

[@duckyfrogdogkim3546]

U r a genius

[@PiffFighting]

Wrestling does not dominate bjj but is more important in mma because if you’re a striker you need wrestling to defend takedowns and if you want to take them down to use bjj your gonna need to have wrestling

[@TheUmmahFightCamp]

Jonathan Davies: You made a Statement that wrestling does not dominate BJJ than went on. I am about facts. NAME the ALL TIME GREAT fighters in the UFC!!!!!

[@luisalberto1456]

@@TheUmmahFightCamp all wrestlers. At one point 7 out of 10 of the weight class champs in the UFC were wrestlers 💂🏽‍♀️

[@PiffFighting]

@@TheUmmahFightCamp your talking about mma and I said wrestling more important because you need wrestling to use bjj in mma but in straight grappling or if you put one art against the other wrestlers are getting tapped all day and if they don’t have good bjj then they shouldn’t try and take a bjj guy down even Ben Askren is a black belt and got schooled by Damien Maia on the ground but Damien Maia couldn’t take down Colby or Usman if you’re going by facts neither is better than the other it’s down to the fighter applying the technique

[@TheUmmahFightCamp]

@@luisalberto1456 Thank you sir!!!! You go to the head of the class.

[@TheUmmahFightCamp]

@@PiffFighting Wrong! The evidence is overwhelming! wrestling is king of the cage.

[@chenchi6623]

well I agree to some extent but it's also kinda biased... no gi grappling is different and more explosive, sure wrestling is good for mma but if you don't know any jiu jitsu wrestler will get subbed easily in mma... look at Kevin Lee vs Charles Oliveira, Kevin a wrestler takes him down does great in the wrestling part and then gets subbed with guillotine and loses the fight...

[@kallepikku4991]

Don't cherry pick fights. He's talking in broad terms. Statistics is about probabilities, not anecdotal evidence. LoL.

[@Scorch1028]

I don't think that any wrestler can beat Kron Gracie in a grappling match.

[@TheUmmahFightCamp]

Scorch1028: No wrestling HAS to beat Kron gracie in a "Grappling match" lol. He has to beat him in MMA and he will! When Kron Gracie gets beat up in the cage it will be by a wrestler.

[@seetsamolapo5600]

And Kron got smoked

[@kallepikku4991]

Kron got smoked as soon as he arrived to UFC coz he was unable to take his opponents down. LMAO. Haven't seen him since.

[@rtvrn_to_monke4952]

Funny. A 10Th Planet BJj guy just took a wrestlers belt

[@TheUmmahFightCamp]

Grail Jitsu: Funny that it is about damn time. Now tell him to join Bellatore or the Ufc and see if he does not get beaten bloody in that silly ass rubber guard.

[@TheUmmahFightCamp]

I can find exceptions in anything. You do not want me to start naming the amount of wrestlers that beat the crap out of you BJJ fanatics do ya?

[@TheUmmahFightCamp]

@@garethllewellyn215 How old are you by chance

[@TheUmmahFightCamp]

@@garethllewellyn215 The problem is that you think a position that is hard to escape from is worth training lol. How about beating someone while they are pinned down? That is far more effective.

[@TheUmmahFightCamp]

@@garethllewellyn215 Look buddy, I have been training for 50 years. One of my ranks is Brown in Judo earned in 1976, yes, 1976. I am not a kid nor a fake. Look at ANYTHING I am doing from BOXING to KARATE. The best at what I do. It is a FACT that MOST all time greats are WRESTLERS at the base. You and any one else can deny the facts because you spent your hard earned money learning something that gets beaten by FREE wrestling but it is what it is. I gave NAMES of ALL TIME GREATS from GSP top JON JONES who are WRESTLERS in their base. Simple.

[@Goggalor1990]

Delusional. It's a good base but most pure wrestlers know nothing of the deeper ground game unless they cross train. "Just grab a leg!" No. Have fun getting choked every time. Go ahead, grab my leg. I'll even give it to you with zero resistance.